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Price predictions for the next 12 h


>t 25k test

>> No.5162272

>>5162166
When exactly do the futures launch?

>> No.5162305

>>5162166
Doesn't CBOE already have futures? Why would this be any different?

>> No.5162313

>>5162272
20 minutes. They start at 5pm central.

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>>5162272
5pm CT ~ 20mins from this post

>> No.5162328

>>5162272
5pm

>> No.5162343

>>5162272

20 minutes

Looks like the people who were scared of this sold earlier today and caused the dip, and last week CBOE cause a spike up and then a gradual bull for the week following, so hopefully this just starts the run up to 25k

>> No.5162347

>>5162313
At the CBOE launch the price jumped up and started a nice rally, don't know if I should jump in now

>> No.5162381

>>5162272
always in 3 days
in 3 days it will be 3 days
etc etc
you get the point

>> No.5162388

>>5162347
It's rallying right now, it was at 19200 earlier an hour ago and now its 19700. You better jump in before it moons.

>> No.5162397

30k in 30 minutes cap this

>> No.5162409

>>5162305
http://www.bantix.com/bitcoin-futures-cboe-vs-cme/


We will be testing 20k+ for sure

>> No.5162449

Anyone know where we can view the orderbook for CME?

>> No.5162459

>>5162397
unfortunately had a dream about today and it went to 330k

tfw it wont be like that :(

>> No.5162490

>>5162343
Or the price could crash as people try to short it. But that's unlikely.

>> No.5162495
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>>5162449
this. We need some info about wtf is going on at CME

>> No.5162499

>>5162166
14k

>> No.5162502

>>5162166
Wherever the futures bet it will go it goes. We can hate wall st, but don't underestimate them.

>> No.5162503

>>5162449
in your brokerage account

>> No.5162509

>>5162409
So....they're basically the same. Unless you think the Gemini auction is considerably off or that volume would impact the price?

>> No.5162523

>>5162459

Soon my friend, soon.

>> No.5162553

Topkek, the futures currently trading opened with $77 mil volume on first day and has reduced steadily to like $20 mil per day.

Meanwhile BTC is trading at $13 billion per day.

Boomers with their fucking chump change lunch money.

>> No.5162611

>>5162509
volume
and
optimisim

>> No.5162658

>>5162502
fuck 'em. what are they gonna do? they can't make BTC owners sell if they don't want to. If wallstreet wants to sell BTC for 15k or lower, I will gladly buy it from them (but they will have to buy it from me for 1 million a piece one day, write this in fucking stone).

>> No.5162791

>>5162305
CME contracts are 5 BTC, CBOE is 1 BTC. CME futures the biggest futures market in the world. CME gonna short BTC. 8k in 24 hours.

>> No.5162818

>>5162313
Is there anyone covering this live on youtube?

>> No.5162822
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>>5162791
>shorting btc

>> No.5162825

http://www.cmegroup.com/trading/equity-index/us-index/bitcoin.html
10 minutes delay so should get numbers in 15

quite sure they follow exchange price and not the reverse, they are our slaves

>> No.5162832

>>5162658
In the long term what you say will prove true. But they are not stupid and they want to bet on it to make more money. If eventually they bet it will go down, I would take some profits and buy the dip. Most btc owners will not sell, but a few btc owners who own a LOT and can pay off the exchanges have probably been accumulating and are cooperating with pools just like they do with all markets, except most markets they play with are in the trillions.

>> No.5162838

>>5162791
nice fud, just like last time xDDDDDDDDD

>> No.5162845

start selling your alts boys..

>> No.5162850

>>5162166
can't wait to laugh at CME trying to short BTC.

>> No.5162851

HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.5162863

How scared should I be right now guys?

Are we fucked or is this just a nothing burger?

>> No.5162868

CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES

>> No.5162870

>>5162845
done already. how long to go?

>> No.5162882
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God I cant wait to see this rocket ship take off

>> No.5162883

I really want them to short BTC and then Bitfinex to print a billion Tethers and short squeeze them into a massive pink wojacking

>> No.5162887

>>5162272
N O W

O

W

>> No.5162891

we're all fucked chaps, brace yourself for impact. buy the dip

>> No.5162892

>buy the moment

>> No.5162911
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WOULD YOU WRAP YOUR ARMS AROUND ME....

AS I'M FAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNGG

>> No.5162920

>>5162883
born just in time to witness total cyber economic warfare

>> No.5162923

is the launch pad ok? im seeing no volume

>> No.5162924

Cmon fat cats ill sell my bags at 30k but only tonight

>> No.5162927

>>5162166
Jump up to repeated new ATHs before they short the fuck out of it - probs manage to get down to $15kish via normie panic selling before pushed back up and even faster pump to higher highs ($50kish) following before consolidation most of 2018.

Screencap this.

>> No.5162941

ITS FUCKING STARTING AAAAA

>> No.5162942
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>>5162166
LOAD THE SPACE SHIP WITH THE ROCKET FUEL

>> No.5162945

Nothing happens: the thread

>> No.5162953

nothing happened lul

>> No.5162954

>>5162945

DATA IS DELAYED TILL :15


UNTIL THEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.5162955

where are /our whales/?

>> No.5162959

>>5162818

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiaK7etvzuU&feature=youtu.be

>> No.5162968

Oh shit red dildos incoming

>> No.5162971

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE its crashing

>> No.5162978

HODLLLLLLLLL

>> No.5162983

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.5162988

>>5162959
THANKS ANON
ITS GOING DOWN
I REPEAT
ITS GOING DOWNN

>> No.5162992

you guys are fucked

>> No.5162996

oh fug

>> No.5163007

EXIT ALL BITCOINS NOW

>> No.5163012
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HOLY SHOT

>> No.5163013

Relax fags

we are going to make it

bull

>> No.5163017

AHHHHHHHH

>> No.5163023

Neo safe heaven

>> No.5163038

>>5162166
Lmao reking longs before reking shorts. Comfy as fuck.

>> No.5163044

give me all your cheap buttcorns

>> No.5163050
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5163050

>Buying BTC on CME day

>> No.5163057

watching this is better than going to a theme park man

>> No.5163078

wtf i didnt kno btc hit 20k today thats dope

>> No.5163088

this is so fucked up. Who let the banksters even do this bullshit? Defeats the point of buttcoin

>> No.5163094

nothing is happening

>> No.5163125

THROUGH THE FIRE AND FLAME WE CARRY ON

>> No.5163128

So premium over spot's right around where CBOE is, 500-1000.

>>5162959
>>5163057
It's like golf, with an autistic audience screeching.

>> No.5163136

thanks for the FUD, I just bought a shit ton of BTC during the dip

>> No.5163143

WHATS THE SOUNDTRACK FOR THIS GUYS?

>> No.5163147

>>5163136
>he thinks the dip is over

>> No.5163148

>>5163088

nothing is happening

>> No.5163151

CME is trading at 18k now, fucking kek

and these are FUTURE contracts guys

>> No.5163152

>>5163088
>2017
>buying buttcoin

>> No.5163164

>>5163143
through the fire and flames

>> No.5163171

>sold at 19250
>rebought at 18800
:)

>> No.5163177

>>5163143
https://youtu.be/oIscL-Bjsq4
i can feel it in me bones

>> No.5163181
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5163181

20.5k futures

>> No.5163202

>>5163143
https://youtu.be/Hm7vnOC4hoY

>> No.5163206

>>5163181
sooo... it's gonna go up?

>> No.5163226

Da Jew man goblin up all dem bitcorns

>> No.5163227

>>5163151
>>5163181
Hmmm

>> No.5163228

>>5163202
cut my bitcoin into satoshis
this is my last mortgage

>> No.5163231

>>5163177
https://youtu.be/ygQtml-Xsog

>> No.5163242

>>5163181
Stream has the bid/ask at 19935/20015

>> No.5163255
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5163255

and here is CBOE now thats its opened again

>> No.5163271

>>5163228
lmaooo

>> No.5163283

>>5163164
GET. THE. FUCK. IN. HERE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15JCb6P60Vw

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.5163313

Gobble gobble I'm here for all your bitcorns

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>>5163283

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

MOMMY I DONT WANNA GO THROUGH FIRE AND FLAMES MOMMYYY MAKE IT STOP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ

>> No.5163354

>>5163255
So buy?

>> No.5163360

all this crashing's making me rich

>> No.5163364
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OH SHIT THIS IS NOT A SMALL DIP

>> No.5163372

wake me up, when futures end.....

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.5163387

i dont have a single dollar invested in btc

is this the time to do it

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5163401

CME=BIG SHORT

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5163412

Why the fuck is ltc dropping too? It should go up when btc tanks!

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5163419

>futures are positive
>/biz/ still freaks the fuck out

Every time

>> No.5163445

>>5162503
i am really hoping all this traditional trade will perish at some point.

>> No.5163448

>>5163387
Wait a few hours

>> No.5163449
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5163449

Gobble gobble gobble

>> No.5163455

>>5163419
>20,280
>positive
It's all over.

>> No.5163528

>>5163449
Kek big ass dildos defiantly a hedge fund

>> No.5163639

whales accumulating

>> No.5163653

>>5163528
>defiantly

>> No.5163693
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WHATS HAPPENINGGGGGG I BOUGHT AT 19.5K THINKING IT WAS GONNA MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

>> No.5163724

>To protect against wild, mistaken price swings, CME will briefly pause trading if the contracts rise or fall 7 percent or 13 percent, and prices won’t be allowed to move more than 20 percent.

What a bunch of pussies lol

>> No.5163747

>>5162845
Already done.

>> No.5163777
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5163777

found a chart for CME's futures but there doesnt seem to be a volume stat. Is that due to it being new and fresh? Can someone hook me up with a proper page for volume infos?

>> No.5163802

Fuck was it priced in WAS IT PRICED IN

>> No.5163813

>>5162845
NEVER. you BTC maximalists are about to find out why you should have listened.

>> No.5163842

>>5163228
lol

>> No.5163850
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>>5163777
meanwhile more artsy stuff for bumps. Kinda ashamed of the 9fag branding there, but w/e. Kek wills it!

>> No.5163865

>>5163724
>To protect against wild, mistaken price swings

What fucking market do they think they're in?

>> No.5163885

>>5163813
i'm 50/50 though

>> No.5163890

It's coming back. Buy. BUY.

>> No.5163891
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5163891

How's that whole "futures" thing working for you cultists now?

>> No.5163902
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>tfw my alts still rising steadily

Up $400 since this thread was made

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I LIKE IT WHEN THE CANDLE IS GREEN AND NOT RED BUT THERE IS A LOT OF RED.

GO GO TEAM GREEN GO!!!

>> No.5163929

Anything besides more sideways movement would be good for me right now. See if you can guess my position.

>> No.5163932

>>5163891
She'll bounce back. Always does.

But god damn do I wish that one of these days it didn't.

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>>5163865
it seems less of a hassle than expected so far. Future price correlates more than I had thought.

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>>5163929
bottom?

>> No.5164006

>>5163929
hahaha close actually

>> No.5164022

The maximalists are about to learn a hard fucking lesson. All your bullshit about "muh decentralization, muh future of money, muh freedom from banks" is for naught. You just put bitcoin into the hands of wall street.

Way to go, idiots.

>> No.5164030

what the fuck is going on?

pls spoonfeed me

>> No.5164053
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>>5163891
ITS FUCKING OVER

>> No.5164069

>>5162166
aaaaand it's nothing.

>> No.5164071
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5164071

>he still believes in the CME short meme

They're going long. Take your profits from alts today and go all in BTC.

When someone pumps bitcoin and plans to short it----from a tactical perspective, that puts them at a disadvantage. Everyone can see that they pumped it. It's like sending a soldier into an open field, rather than taking a path with cover.

On the other hand, those who want to go long---their funds are not yet on the playfield. Who knows how hard they could pump it, they could be holding huge reserves just to buy dips from when people try to lower the price of BTC and short it. Their actions are totally unknown, unpredictable, a black swan. The ones who want to go long on BTC are in a superior tactical position.

Pic related will be everyone who doesn't have large BTC holdings tomorrow.

>> No.5164091

>>5164053
OH SHIT THIS TA IS RIGHT

>> No.5164096

>ethereum is extremely under bought
TRUTH

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>> No.5164116
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>>5164030
futures started trading 46mins ago. Expected apocalypse
>nothing happens

>> No.5164119

Effective today but trading starts tomorrow you fucking dickheads

>> No.5164123

>>5164071
>cash settled

They can short 1 billion btc in one go.

Its over the price of btc is controlled by (((them))) r.i.p satoshi's vision

>> No.5164171

Wait wtf i thought CME trading started tomorrow. It's already began?

>> No.5164183

>>5164123
Satoshies Vision is Bitcoin cash you dumb fuck.
Let ((them)) control this shitcoin if they want to, who cares

>> No.5164198

AAAAAAAAAA WHATS GONNA HAPPEN?????

>> No.5164248

>>5163929
straddle

>> No.5164586

>>5164123
except the margin requirements will force them to hold a lot more than a billion in btc to even open those contracts, which means they'd have to acquire them first on the open market.

>> No.5164809

>>5164071
what's your definition of a large holding of btc? asking for a friend...

>> No.5164822

>>5164586
THIS exactly you guys are fucking stupid kek

>> No.5164874

man there is some weird shit going on right now in bitcoin price.

>> No.5164890

Fuck this I'm buying my alts back.

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when moon

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>>5163982

>> No.5165212

>>5163639
underrated

>> No.5165248

Y'all are idiots y'all don't even know how a future works y'all don't realise they all do cash settlement if y'all knew this y'all wud know that futures won't affect the price of btc at all these guys place counterparty credit risk with cash settlement upon delivery so they never touch btc. They never have to touch a btc. Ever. Y'all dumb af

>> No.5165472

>>5162959
needs music

>> No.5165510

>>5163850

google cme bitcoin futures quote

current volume around 300 contracts at 100k per contract.

>> No.5165514
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>>5162920

>> No.5165599

Are futures trading more volatile than actual bitcoin right now?

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>>5163639

>> No.5165696

>>5164586
The margin has nothing to do with BTC, it only requires them to have more dollars in there

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>>5164022
>implying there was some transfer of ownership or permission here

>> No.5165738

reminder that ETH and NEO are undervalued

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>>5165708
>that brainlet

>> No.5165814

>>5165599

futures trading isn't even related to bitcoin. the exchange is holding no bitcoin and it's all cash settled. they say if you make money off the bet they will just give you the equivalent amount of USD that you would have theoretically gotten from making the trade.

Since you're not actually trading a coin, affects nothing.

>> No.5166050

>>5165814
Arb traders will obviously pick up any price discrepancy

>> No.5166242

>>5166050

No, they won't. That's my whole point. You aren't trading bitcoin with the futures like you would be with gold or oil or corn. It's just nothing.

>> No.5166393

>>5165814
I literally said more than ACTUAL bitcoin, I'm aware. I think its funny because the futures market was priding itself in decreasing volatility.

>> No.5166449

>>5166242
Why do you need to be trading bitcoin with the futures? If I can buy futures cheaper than I can buy bitcoin why wouldn't I just buy the futures?

>> No.5166927

****AGHEMMMM****

>> No.5167624

>>5166449
If everybody trades futures nobody is trading bitcoin. Are you stupid? Also people buy and sell BTC to influence the future market.

>> No.5168587

>>5166050
Exactly.
Cash and carry - You can buy the contract (eg you agree that 1 month in the future BTC = 25,000) and also sell the commodity. Then wait 1 month = locked in profit

>> No.5168638

>>5168587
sorry I got it backwards
BREAKING DOWN 'Cash-And-Carry Trade'

A cash-and-carry trade has several steps. The investor must first purchase a security or commodity. He or she then sells a futures contract for that same security or commodity. He holds or "carries" that security or commodity until the futures contract expires. When it does, the investor delivers the commodity or security he previously bought.

Read more: Cash-And-Carry Trade https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/cashandcarry.asp#ixzz51ZnGc9dL
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