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>car dependency has proven to increase paranoia and isolation
>Children who cannot travel without car rides have devastating effects on independence and critical thinking.
>Shell companies and big oil pays for online marketing
>Before Ford and car dependency American cities were considered more beautiful than European cities with Europeans vacationing in the states to see them
>Switzerland has quiet scenic trains that go through remote villages every 30 minutes
>Tokyo has trains near housing so nobody is more than 15 minutes away from transit
>If you're in France you can travel to literally any European country in 5 hours
>China has developed high speed rails that travel through countryside and cities allowing everyone to travel freely
>American suburbs are subsidized and depend on infinite growth
>American cities on average waste 75% of the space with parking lots leaving only 25% for buildins
>Texas spend 12 billion to add another lane for highways in a single city and traffic became worse
>Boston replaced inner city highways for bike only lanes with parks which improved traffic congestion.
>Seoul South Korea removed it's central highway for a massive park that reduced suicides and improved local bus

>> No.51616780

kys

>> No.51616784

I HATE TRAFFIC

>> No.51616803

cars are gay

>> No.51616827

>>51616769
>Before Ford and car dependency American cities were considered more beautiful than European cities with Europeans vacationing in the states to see them
Brutal Blackpool desu

>> No.51616840

>>51616827
Blackpill. I am a phone posting faggot

>> No.51616873

>>51616769
Yeah, but have you ever floored it in a car that has launch control?
Or driven a 4x4 over curbs late at night in the skid row of a metropolitan?
Ever race yuppie fags in Audis or ghetto dindus in LS engine swaps?
Ever drive in the cold empty desert at 3am?
Ever fuck in the backseat of a car?
Ever downshift at entry of an apex while going 90 mph?
Cars are awesome and fun.
They're not going anywhere.

>> No.51616907

>>51616827
Blackpool is pretty grim, aye, good for a Stag-do though, better than Br*gton anyway

>> No.51617319

>>51616769
lol you know what the reason we can't have public transit is dickhead

>> No.51617490

Every second I spend in public transport is pure misery. Traffic jams suck penis but only affect you if you live a normie tier life.

>> No.51617519

To: HsZhWiJz
Cc: AEivOKpQ
I agree, driving gives me anxiety and sometimes makes me just want to drive into buildings for no reason like how I want to throw my plates against the wall when I am done eating.

To: ewlGEx3N
I have not

To: PtjiYOOF
What is it?

To: l9NZbDjU
I think public transport can be good if there was more privacy and we didn't have to go over or underground to get into trains or how you have an overhead bridge for pedestrians instead of a making a tunnel for cars to drive through when they are the ones with engines.

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>>51616769
I've used public transportation like 5 times in my life and each and every time was memorable purely for the fact that it involved feral trash blasting music, overdosing on drugs, or jumping around like fucking animals. I would rather eat glass than be stuck using fucking public transportation. I'd rather rip 30 holes in the ozone and kill every treefrog and every le walkable public space. My car is several thousand pounds of metal that goes wherever I want whenever I want and I could live in it if I wanted to, it's incredible. Owning a car is probably the next best thing to owning a home

>> No.51617550

>>51616873
>Yeah, securing a future for our children is cool, but have you ever GOED FASTS?
I'll fucking kill you

>> No.51617616

>>51616873
I agree but fun is not allowed anymore goy

>> No.51617628

>>51616873
These losers have done none of those. They are just a bunch of boring sore losers.

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>>51616769
ALL carfags need to DIE IMMEDIATELY

>> No.51617707

>>51616873
Based but you forgot roll coal right onto a group of cyclist on Sunday morning with no real destination

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>>51616873
You need to get GASSED. You are literally SUBHUMAN

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>>51616769
Cars where an honest to god mistake

>> No.51617792

>>51616769
>>If you're in France you can travel to literally any European country in 5 hours
in theory yes, but it's pretty badly organized, i saw a video on this once. it takes hours of research to even figure it out, booking tickets on dozens of websites. they really should simplify and streamline it but apparently they're too incompetent or they don't want to make it easy

>> No.51617807

>>51617519
just click on the post you want to reply to newfag or else put a >> in front of the name. this should be obvious do you see anyone else writing "To:" no you don't, fucking think retard.

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>>51616769
Bro you know what Americans are gonna respond with
>B-BUT NIGGERS. INCENTIVISING ME TO WALK WILL JUST PUT ME AT AN OVER 9000% INCREASED RISK OF GETTING STOMPED BY NIGGERS

>> No.51617821

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHlpmxLTxpw

this video is a big eye opener on how car dependency makes for weak children that grow into pathetic adults, like ourselves

>> No.51617825

>>51616873
>Did you ever do specific thing? Yeah I'm thinking it's based I'm too fat to use my legs because of thing

>> No.51617836

public transport is pretty awful sometimes, i hate riding the bus and will go out of my way to avoid doing so. also, the bus is slow, at least in my city. it takes an hour on public transport to get somewhere it would take 15 minutes to get to in a car. it's actually faster to take a bicycle usually. and then you're stuffed into a metal tube with a bunch of other poor people, some of them sniffling and sneezing and its pretty uncomfortable. looking forward to putting a battery and motor on my bicycle then i'd only need to use a bus on the worst weather days.

>> No.51617846

the go train in ontario is comfy though, often very few people on it.. probably wouldn't be so comfy if it was packed to capacity but still better then a bus.

>> No.51617854

>>51616769
>>car dependency has proven to increase paranoia
sounds made up stopped reading there

>> No.51617862

if your destination is a 15 minute walk away, just walk. why would you even want to drive it, but whatever, if you want to go ahead it's not my place to tell you not to, i just don't get it. you probably need the exercise anyways.

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>>51617536
Public transport is lacking in muttistan. That's why all the undesirables are found on every bus. Had public transport been better funded there would be more units to divert the slight discomfort you experience.
Man Americans are fucking humongous faggots. What the fuck happened to the country that beat the shit out of the Brits at their peak?

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>sounds made up stopped reading there

>> No.51617873

>>51617854
no it makes sense, especially if you were raised in car dependence from a young age
see this video you don't want to watch, it totally explains it. explains a lot about young people these days actually, our generation was ruined by the car dependence. i don't hate cars though, i just think we went too far with the whole car thing
>>51617821

>> No.51617887

>>51617863
>slight discomfort
spoken like a guy who doesn't ride the bus but thinks other people should have to. it sucks dude. you might even get sick from it

>> No.51617892

>>51616769
>>car dependency has proven to increase paranoia and isolation
Good.

>> No.51617908

>>51617536
it's not freedom when you literally don't have a choice but to use a car half the time anon

>> No.51617912

>doesn't like riding the bus
>doesn't like car dependence
so what do i even want then? more people on ebikes. when the weather is decent and you're only going somewhere in the city why not an ebike. you save wear and tear on your car. personally i find bicycles less stressful then driving a car, it's even pleasant compared to a car. you can get some air, some sun, do some pedaling for exercise, don't pedal if you don't want to arrive sweaty. most cities have some bike lanes now so it's not as dangerous as it was. i guess its location dependent, maybe your city is truly awful on bikes but where i live it's alright, not great but passable

>> No.51617913

>>51617863
I've taken public transport all over the world and this can't be further from the truth.

They have a well funded public transport in Mexico City for example and I think it was worse experience than the US.

I'm in Japan right now and even here, it's not that great of an experience. It beats any other country's public transport in terms of cleanliness and timeliness and people are well behaved. But, if I lived here, I'd rather just get a motorcycle or a small Kei car than take the public transport and be packed like sardines.

>> No.51617915 [DELETED] 

>>51617873
Who gives a fuck about (((studies))), I spent the first 5 years of my adult life riding busses and I wish I could have all that wasted time back. Cars are more efficient, they save you time, don’t try and tell me that we can invest in public transportation that takes the shortest possible route from your home to your destination. Why pretend there are no flaws to public transportation?

>> No.51617928

when a city passes laws against ebikes in bike lanes it really shows they don't actually give a shit about climate change or whatever they pretend to care about. not like i do either but thats not my point, they say they do, so they should welcome basically the only practical alternative to the car.

>> No.51617937

>>51616769
>jungle jams
>screeching shitbulls
>niggers niggering it up
sorry op but youre a faggot

>> No.51617939

>>51617915
what studies? i didn't link to any studies, never mentioned any studies. did you even read my posts? i hate taking the bus, i'm not pretending there aren't any flaws. the video is about kids who never leave the house because where they live there is nowhere to go without a car and their parents won't let them out because they could get hit by a car because where they live isn't walkable. so you get isolated children that never go outside and have adventures and find other kids to play with, and they become antisocial paranoid poorly adjusted adults. basically creating an entire generation of people who will for the most part fail to become functioning adults. and it's car dependence to blame. why pretend there are no flaws to car dependence?

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also there's the massive infrastructure expense, have to run electricity and sewer and water lines across several parking lots just to reach a single isolated chain restaurant and then repeat that for many miles.

>> No.51617995 [DELETED] 

>>51617928
Politicians don’t actually care about the planet they just use it to secure political power seems like no one genuinely gives a fuck about our planet the boomers in power surely don’t give a fuck they are checked out as far as they are concerned approving pipelines left and right so gdp can go up spilling millions of gallons into the ocean I mean who gives a fuck right not like our food comes from their or the ecosystem is important
>>51617937
Well then boy do I have the solution for you
You get to continue making car payments and paying the government for your privilege to drive your oil slave and shelling out for insurance how you think taking away my options for transport is somehow making me freer is fucking beyond me

>> No.51618001

>>51617863
2 of those 5 times weren't in America. Once was in Biritain, funnily enough since you brought it up.

Public transportation is absolutely god awful, to the point of being legitimately dangerous in nice areas.

>> No.51618006

>>51617968
>Everything nicely spaced apart.
>Enough parking for everyone so you don't have to circle around the block multiple times to find parking contributing more greenhouse gas and waste time.

This is an improvement.

>> No.51618014

>>51618006
Why don’t you get your fat ass out of the car and go for a walk

>> No.51618016

i'm not saying you should never take a car, but sometimes maybe you could take something else. the bus sucks i get that, maybe you could take an ebike. not all the time, not everywhere. but probably most people most of the time don't need to be taking a car and the costs of doing so kind of outweigh the benefits. rather then ban people from cars though we could make the alternatives more enticing with some infrastructure improvements and such. i think a great thing done in most places in north america is they allow people to operate ebikes without insurance or licensing, albeit with some restrictions in speed and motor wattage. electric scooter rentals might also be good, though i know its trendy to hate on those, and a lot of places ban them.

>> No.51618024

>>51617995
if only canada would approve its fucking pipelines already. they don't care about the environment either they just want to fuck the economy on purpose

>> No.51618031

>>51616769
and if I want to get groceries for the family?

>> No.51618046

>>51618014
he can't because everything is nicely spaced apart so it takes forever to get anywhere and there are no bike lanes and he feels "bikes are for pussies" and being a real man requires a big truck even though he never actually hauls anything in the back of his truck but it makes him feel big. and he's never considered an ebike because they're for pussies like bicycles.

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>>51618024
This won’t anyone think of the economy the ecosystem is for fags and commies anyway

>> No.51618056

>>51617977
>>51616769
americans do this because they have plenty of land. europe's pop density is way bigger. they'd spread their cities out if they could afford it and weren't lazy to rebuild and their houses weren't made of obsolete materials that take centuries to properly degrade instead of kino lumber that is easy to tear down every few decades

>> No.51618063

>>51618031
Can a European comment on this man’s query?
How long do the average pilgrimages to the stores take to acquire groceries and sustenance? Two days? Ten? Do you need to observe the land mark and stars to navigate your way

>> No.51618067

>>51618014
I'm pretty fit actually. I'd rather spend 10mins doing intense cardio workout at the gym than having to waste my time walking(very mediocre work out) 10min from my car to the gym.

>> No.51618070

a lot of the reason people won't ride bikes is the image of being a "bike person" like you have to make it a lifestyle and everything with the tight spandex and pro-green nonsense. "i can't ride a bike i'm not a liberal pussy fancyboy" kind of thing. bitch it's just transportation it doesn't need to be a whole thing. but the bike faggots who take it too far and go all the way bike make it look bad. and normies and npcs, how something looks and feels is everything. they're afraid people will associate them with undesirables if they're seen riding a bike. bicycles and especially ebikes since they're so practical, need a big marketing push like that time edward bernaise got hired by pork farmers to convince everyone to eat bacon for breakfast

>> No.51618075

>>51618063
he has a point though, when you need to carry stuff that has either weight or size, doing it with a car is way more convenient than any other option.

>> No.51618078

>>51618046
I honestly get why humanity aren’t a star faring race were so fucking stupid

>> No.51618086

>>51618056
they can't always afford it though but do it anyways, communities are struggling with the massive expense. eventually the bill to replace all this shit has to be paid and its not being paid by the macdonalds you ran the sewer and water and electric lines across a mile of parking lots to supply. its paid by debt and an ever increasing bill to future taxpayers but that can has been kicked down the road about as far as it can be and now its time to pay the bill.

>> No.51618090

>>51618075
If only their were a group of people with access to the internet who could answer these questions how could you possibly carry all the things back to your home?

>> No.51618107

>>51618090
i do groceries both by hand and by car and car is way more comfy. do you even do shopping with a car?

>> No.51618109

>>51618075
sure but most of the time it's just one person taking a car to a place and back that would take 20 minutes on an ebike and would take cars off the road, so less traffic for those times you do need a car.
>>51618090
cargo bikes, especially non-electric ones, aren't for everyone. you're not going to haul a bunch of heavy shit and half your family in a cargo bike, i know some people do it, but you can't expect most people to, it's not realistic. cars are needed sometimes.

>> No.51618115

>>51618070
Also the fact that in many cities your bike will get stolen if you leave it unattended for more than 5 minutes.

A couple years ago a coworker had a hobo steal his bike and leave his old shitty broken one in the spot where it was chained up.

>> No.51618122

>>51618107
i have a decent backpack and i hang shopping bags from the handlebars, i don't have any issues doing this. i'm only shopping for one person but i easily carry 2 weeks of groceries. been doing it for years. if i had to feed a family of four ok i'd take a car. or i'd do delivery, it's like 8 bucks to get your groceries delivered it's pretty convenient.

>> No.51618123

>>51618107
Ah yes buying in bulk have you ever considered if you could walk 5 minutes to your local grocer or market you could buy meals by the day
>but what about the stupid Chinese shit I buy like lead painted wardrobes from guangdong? How will I ever get that back to my home do you expect me to carry it on my back like a pilgrim??
If only there were a service where you could pay to have the cheap mass produced Chinese junk delivered straight to your home

>> No.51618136

>>51618109
If you didn’t have to make the Moses pilgrimage into the desert everytime you needed milk you could shop by the day instead of buying that xxxxxl tub of macaroni to get you and yours through the next year

>> No.51618139

>>51618123
>buy meals by the day
>leaving the house every day instead of once a week
kek ngmi

>junk delivered straight to your home
do you know what that service requires?

>> No.51618145

>>51617810
>trying to inb4 reality

You just wanted an excuse to use the mutt meme

>> No.51618155

>>51618115
yeah that's an issue to be fair. especially with modern lithium battery portable grinders taking out the u-locks that bolt cutters can't do.

but a proper thick bike chain or thick u-lock you're a lot better off then the shitty cable locks most people use. seriously, don't use anything that simple bolt cutters can take out in a few seconds. not every thief has a portable grinder or the time to grind out a lock for a few minutes in public sparks flying and the big noise, but every bike thief will at least have some bolt cutters.

still though, there is no theft proof system for bikes. there are trackers you can put on your bike that can also help but thats usually a monthly expense for a decent tracker and then youd have to register your bike with the police and hope they help you track it down, it's a whole thing and its not really as streamlined and efficient as it could be.

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>>51618139
> do you know what that service requires?
Yes you keeping that monstrosity you call a personality vechile shaped like a tank off the road and let people deliver to multiple people instead of having hundreds of dumbfucks transporting their latest bounty from the democratic republic of uighyr on the roads back to their cardboard homes

>> No.51618214

>>51618155
wishful thinking time, trying to invent a solution here. if there was some kind of affordable tracker, maybe it works by satellite, maybe starlink, and its an affordable yearly fee. and it can be well integrated into the bike to the point where it takes at least a few minutes to remove or disable it and it alerts you to any tampering so you can call the police. and the police have been primed on this and express a willingness to assist in these matters rather then ignore them. combined with increased public awareness on what constitutes a decent bike lock. combined with places to lock your bike in city centers where there are cameras or something. maybe car parking garages could have a bicycle place near where the parking garage staff often are. it could be made more practical to take a bike instead. especially an ebike since not everyone wants to pedal. sure it would be a whole thing but if the governments were really serious about climate change or reducing car dependency for all the other benefits, it could be worth it.

>> No.51618223

>>51618185
i don't want to take the bus though, i don't like it. i'm big on bikes and such but you're not even convincing me with that image. you're sure not convincing any carfags

>> No.51618231

>>51616769
You’re poor we get it

>> No.51618242

>>51618223
You don’t have to take the bus you can keep sucking off the Saudi princes to grace you with that black liquid goodness
Me I’ll be riding the Shinkansen or the bus or whatever I feel like because the option is available to me
The most anti public transit people will never want to use public transit because muh undesirables so why the fuck are we hearing their opinions on adding more public transit options?

>> No.51618248

>>51618214
One solution I had thought of was bike racks with hermetic magnetic locks that only disengage when the person has the right key. Like if you bike is an NFT and needs a private key signature to get unstaked.

>> No.51618257

>>51618185
also home depot, walmart, etc will often deliver those big furniture items and whatnot for a reasonable fee. you could have just pointed that out. you're only shopping for such items once a year at most anyways so its not a big deal just to have it delivered when possible. take a vehicle when its not possible. and ride an ebike when its just yourself on a short commute but still have a car for when its time to take the family on a road trip to a distant town to visit grandma. cars are still needed, just overdosed on cars is all, completely rejecting the car isn't a solution though that anyone can swallow.

>> No.51618268

>>51618136
the fact that this is irritating you so much is extremely gay

>> No.51618278

>>51618268
Being forced to own a car or be locked out of the economy is very fucking irritating
Cars dependent societies are basically punishing poor people for existing

>> No.51618279

>>51618185
What a dumb picture.
Yay! We are so happy to be packed like sardines and smell each other's farts! Lmao.

>> No.51618308

>>51618279
3 bus could take them comfortably though which will still have a tiny fraction of the footprint of the right image

>> No.51618311

>>51618248
right, a locking bike rack could be thick enough to stop all hydraulic bolt cutters and portable grinders easily since it can be big and heavy. and the nft angle stops any lock pickers (even electronic locks can be hacked, but not one with nfts maybe) interesting idea. to be effective though it would need to be widely deployed and affordable for the city and any businesses. maybe the city could do up special zoning to make it really easy and flexible for businesses to install since as is there's probably some big regulatory and zoning hassle in even putting something like that in place.

>> No.51618335

>>51617550
>falling for crypto-libtard talking points
cool bro go ahead and kill every nigger in the country then get back to me with your reddit tier walkable city fantasies.

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>> No.51618347

>>51618242
because the only people who take the bus right now are people who have no other choice. because taking the bus sucks, it will always suck. and people will literally suck off a saudi prince if it means not getting on a bus. so stop pretending you can sell busses to the masses when they don't want to use them. sure busses could be better and that will entice some increased ridership but busses alone isn't the solution. a combination of busses, increased ebike and bike acceptance, other electric single person transporters like scooters and whatnot being accepted despite their drawbacks, and also accepting that sometimes its best to just take a car. thats the way, we need less car dependence not "fuck all cars take the bus" that mentality will get you nowhere.

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>>51618347
>well you know it sucks but poor people will just have to deal with it

>> No.51618380

>>51618353
what are you even saying right now? i don't get it.

i agree that car dependence is causing issues, and we should foster solutions that reduce car dependence. but pretending that everyone should just take a bus isn't practical and also busses suck, nobody wants to ride the bus if they can avoid it and you can't change that. you can make the busses better, more optimized and efficient, but its still going to suck to ride the bus.

>> No.51618383

>>51616769
literally fuck the USA. literally an unlivable shithole outside of 3 major metropolitans at the absolute maximum & when petrodollar hegemony breaks (and we'll probably see it in our lifetime) they'll be yesterday's news.

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>>51617490
public transit is actually comfy to ride in first world countries, burgerstanis need not apply

>> No.51618398

>>51618380
We need a radical change to the system you said people won’t what to change because theyd rather someone else suffer than give up a modicum of convenience this car infrastructure has to be torn up by its roots and our entire infrastructure needs to be changed half measures are going to do it we need to build a society that’s works for its poorest members or you might as well not even bother

>> No.51618402

the extremists on both sides are annoying. everything is so black and white to some people. "cars bad take the bus" "bus bad always take car" fucking calm down.

more people could be on ebikes/bikes/bus/train more of the time while still allowing for cars some of the time. obviously. instead we get these 100% car or 100% not-car people

>> No.51618413

>>51618398
poor people don't even want to ride the bus, they'll go into massive debt to avoid doing so. and that's their choice. you can put lipstick on the bus pig but not everyone wants to make out with it. half measures are great, get half the people on ebikes/busses/trains etc at least half the time and problem solved.

>> No.51618429

>>51618398
>we need to build a society that’s works for its poorest members
don't talk like a politician, that's a meaningless phrase that just sounds good if you're not thinking very hard but means nothing. we're talking about how taking the bus sucks and will always suck and you come at me with this shit. fuck you i am poor, i am poor as fuck, you don't need to tell me

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>>51618278
get a job you lazy europoor lmao

>> No.51618452

>>51618429
riding the bus sucks in American cities because it's a crime-ridden, multicultural shithole and that's where all the homeless drug addicts hang out

>> No.51618459

>>51616873
Stay based

>>51617519
I love this meme

>> No.51618461

>>51617863
Public transport just isn't a solution in a low trust, crime-ridden environment like the U.S.

>> No.51618466

>>51618452
no it always sucks. because its a bus. make a bus that shows up on time, gets where its going quickly (good luck cause it has to make a lot of stops so thats not a reasonable expectation), put in a city without niggers. and at the end of the day you're still packed in a steel tube with a bunch of strangers coughing on you. busses suck and always will. it's a last resort, it's necessary, but it's not the end all and be all perfect solution irregardless of the conditions and circumstances.

>> No.51618476

>>51617753
Cars also poisoned an entire generation via lead on a global scale, making the world dumber as a result.

>> No.51618483

i'm not saying busses shouldn't be better funded, i'm just saying the idea that you can throw money at busses and all the problems are gone is something i would expect someone who has never ridden a bus to think.

>> No.51618498

>>51618466
It's not really that bad imo, you're able to relax and browse the internet on your phone/laptop while you go to your destination instead of driving through traffic, which requires all of your attention and is never fun in a large city. As long as the bus is clean, nigger-free and reasonably fast (which can be improved with good route planning/bus lanes) then I'd prefer it

>> No.51618507

>>51616769
Fuck off greta ...cars go vroom vroom and I like it

>> No.51618514

everyone should just get an ebike already holy shit. it doesn't replace the car, but it replaces the car more then half the time for more then half the people, easily. its so fucking practical. there are measures that can be taken to reduce some of the issues, better secured parking for bikes, better awareness of the fact that cable locks are fucking worthless, ebike rentals. but cities are reluctant because there are some annoyances with so many people on ebikes well suck it up a little, because it's worth it, they're great. everyone should get one.

>> No.51618523

>>51618498
no you don't prefer it. you got some stranger coughing on you. you're breathing the same air as two dozen strangers its gross.

>> No.51618539

>>51618523
I know what I prefer, faggot. I rode the bus every day for years because it was less of a hassle than finding a parking spot downtown.

>> No.51618550

>>51618539
>rode
>past tense
you're in a car no because you can afford it. fucking hell man

>> No.51618560

>>51618550
No, it's because I live somewhere else that's car-dependent lmao. I've always had a car

>> No.51618566

nobody prefers the bus. people who say they like the bus aren't actually taking busses anymore. i stand by that opinion. they want other people to have to take the bus because they imagine less traffic on the road for themselves and their cars.

>> No.51618572

>>51617731
>hanging tranny meme to respond to someone emphasising the beauty and fun of cars
An AI posted this.

>> No.51618579

i rode a bicycle until i took an arrow in the knee and now i have to ride the bus and i don't like it but can't afford an ebike yet (i'm working on it). i am so far below the poverty line it's not funny and i have to listen to richfags in cars tell me that the bus is great and they love it. fuck off

>> No.51618588

>>51618566
People have brought up valid reasons for preferring the bus. You just have different preferences and can't wrap your mind around others not being germaphobes or having the same priorities. Boo hoo somebody in the bus was coughing!! I bet you're quintuple vaxxed and still wear a covid mask. Pussy.

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>>51618588
not vaxxed because i'm far too paranoid about my health to take a hastily made suspicious vaccine pushed out by people who hate me.

nobody prefers the bus, it's just lies. busses are for necessity only when you can't do anything else period.

>> No.51618614

And they called me crazy when I said years ago they want to restrict people's freedom of movement.

>> No.51618616

just take an ebike when you can, a car when you can't, and a bus only if you have to. there's the solution.

>> No.51618632

>>51618614
yeah that's a major drawback of ebikes not gonna lie, they just don't go very far. but for in the city commuting they're ideal. would still be nice to get out of the city sometime though but i sure as fuck cant afford the car debt to do so and so i'm stuck because the bus only goes so far.

>> No.51618635

>>51618632
You're either a bot or a retard. Close the thread mate.

>> No.51618655

>>51618635
why? whats retarded about admitting that not having freedom of movement sucks? and that even the thing i've been advocating for this entire thread doesn't solve a lack of freedom of movement. maybe you're the bot

>> No.51618676

>>51617913
Where in Japan? I found the subways and trains to be extremely easy to use and not uncomfortable in the slightest. I'd hate to drive around through busy parts of Osaka or someplace that has cruddy signage on an intersection that branches in like 5 directions. Maybe I'd get used to it if I lived there.

>> No.51618696

>>51618655
Because you've made 41 posts in a slide thread. It's ok retard fren I didn't read your posts but maybe you're being baited by bots.

>> No.51618727

>>51618696
yeah maybe. bots are a serious problem, they're everywhere. but it's an issue i care about so here i am getting baited by bots

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I could use public transport but then I'd waste 2 to 4 times as long to move around and limit myself what I can take with me if I go anywhere and have to be in crowded spaces with nigs and other people who often have cough and flu and other shit. It's fucking vile when you've been out of the public transport system for a while and when you realize this you really aren't going back to nigger wagons.

>> No.51619076

>>51617810
Well they’d be right

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Black people ruin public transit.

>> No.51619129

>>51616769
I live in a place where it gets very cold for a third of the year. I don't think I want to walk during that. But it does sound interesting and I've never known a different life. We have busses but a transit system near all the homes sounds cool.

>> No.51619150

>>51617753
None of these dogshit bullet points apply to me. Your entire argument is a push to end freedom of movement provided by automobiles. Suck my cock.

>> No.51619164

>>51616769
I keep seeing "car dependence" negatives, however the only alternative I see to "car dependence" is surrendering freedom of movement to the State. Can anyone make an actual argument for this other than "its wrong to have carzzz!! you're weak!!!" I'd argue you're weak and powerless because you are dependent on something completely outside your control and firmly in the control of the state to get you where you need to be.

>> No.51619194

>>51618588
Lmao imagine being such a low income cuck you have to rely on a schedule controlled by people who don't give a rat's ass about you to carry out your day to day routine.

I leave and maneuver my city whenever the fuck I want with my automobile. I'm not in debt over it because I'm not a poor faggot. Every rabid attempt to turn the sentiment on autos is a thinly veiled effort to assault freedom of movement.

>> No.51619213

This is a discord raid thread. The shillniggers are attacking /biz/ because this place is too redpilled.

>> No.51619258 [DELETED] 

You liberals and I ain't so different
Yall: hate city traffic
Me: hate city traffic
Yall just decide to tear down roads and ride bikes and live in apartments. I will choose to live in the country. Yall stay there, and I stay here.
At least we both agree that modern city planning is jewish.
Although I must add, walkable cities in America will never be possible as long as niggers exist. Just sayin.

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>>51617519
oh great, there's a faggot in practically every thread recreating this joke, making it less funny each time. kys

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>>51617807
look at this jannies
>doesnt immediately call his rp a fag
>disappointedfathertone.mp3
>gives concise instructions on chan technicals
take fucken notes here if you really wanna clean up biz

>> No.51619420

>>51617915
There are no studies that say what he’s saying. It’s common fucking sense. Children who grow up walking around and exploring are more independent, well adjusted and more intelligent then their counterparts.
Being able to see your friends without having to beg your parents to drive you there, being able to go to the shops on your own if you need something, being able to explore and meet new people etc all contribute to this.
You’re welcome to say “fuck kids I want the perfect city for my car and they can just deal with it” but don’t blame them when your kids put you in a nursing home because they’re too incompetent to take care of you. And don’t be surprised when you’re treated like shit there.

>> No.51619463

Poor people should not be allowed to have cars. That will solve the environmental problems and make cities greener.

>> No.51619473

>>51617536
>The circumstances in which I found myself in this one specific time shape my entire worldview of what public transport is like.
Yeah no shit confirmation bias - it’s why most American public transport sucks, it’s been decades suffering from under investment

>> No.51619591

>>51616769
This is a WEF ECO post and it's really terrible, shit artwork btw, all layered in by someone at a job for this and it shows. Go to hell you new age hippy conmen, you want rid of vehicles of now since they can be used as tools to remove the ones in power in many ways, it cost too much to build up enough protective anti car barriers that pop up, monitor every current vehicle that can be used to travel and disposed of afterwards, and locks people down into controlled zones which will be essentially future slavery with a social credit system that you plan to copy off the chinese homework, fucking horrid. Can't even profit off this specifically to top it off as markets are heading downwards as a whole, so not even a investment worthy search through the various companies trying to get top position for this whole future you want. Leave this board and go to other sites to shill.

>> No.51619608

>>51619194
Like I said, I've always had a car, but I don't like driving and parking in massive cities, so when I lived 3 miles outside of a major city I preferred to ride the bus downtown because it was way less effort. Not everyone lives in a suburban neighborhood that's 75% parking lot

>> No.51619619

it's not funny anymore.

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>>51616769
Look at my nee tesla bitch

>> No.51619720

>>51616769
>american suburbs are subsidized and depend on infinite growth.
To further illustrate, a link from strong towns: https://www.strongtowns.org/the-growth-ponzi-scheme
Imagine a new suburban development, a quarter mile of road with 10 houses or so. So a quarter mile of underground utilities: water, gas, electric (maybe above ground but still quartermile), if the developer offers to pay for the construction of these utilities and basic maintenance for the next 20 years (until the road needs to be repaved), 20 years worth of taxes from those 10 houses will not cover the cost of repaving that road. So, in order to finance it, the city has newer developments and uses the tax revenues from those developments to pay for the older ones (maybe those developments are 10 years into their cycle), but those developments will have their time as well, so even more developmets get shat out. Heres a video which explains it as well.
https://youtu.be/7IsMeKl-Sv0

>> No.51619758

I'm not catching the bus

>> No.51619790

>>51616873
>They're not going anywhere.
peak conventional oil was in 2005
peak total oil was in 2018
cars dun goofed sooner than you think

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>>51619790
>muh peak
Do you have a single piece of first hand evidence to back that up?

>> No.51619825

>>51619813
https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/
https://energyskeptic.com/
http://crudeoilpeak.info/

>> No.51619832

>>51618676
I spend most of my time here in Osaka and Tokyo.
Yeah, it's easy to use but there are a lot of inconveniences too. Like if you get stuck using the subway during rush hour in any major city, you will realize why the suicide rate here is so high(I'd kill myself too if I had to go through that everyday). Driving in Japan is not that difficult at all once you get used to it. You will actually get very good at driving in general once you get used to driving in Japan. If you can drive in Japan, it will be a cakewalk to pretty much drive anywhere in the world.

>> No.51619836

>>51619825
Wow these all seem like very unbiased valid sources. Let me refute them
Dailystormer.com
Stormfront.org
4chan.org/pol

>> No.51619867

>>51619836
articles all have sources
>you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink

>> No.51619880

>>51616873
This
Boring basedboys get the rope

>> No.51619887

>>51619867
Like I said in the first place, I want actual evidence not "read my meme site".

>> No.51619897

>I vill not eat ze bugs
>But I will live in a cramped city in which I will have no autonomy for mobility

>> No.51619963

>>51617753
the whole industrial revolution was bro

>> No.51620330

>>51617490
Such is life in a country with niggers.

>> No.51620978

To: Rt/Tj/Zq 25/09/22(Sun)04:22:51

Dear Anon,
I hope my message finds you well. I love this (You)-denying trend you and other fellow shill-busting anons have started.
Kind regards,
Anon

>> No.51621051

if you're anti car you're anti human, unless you have an alternative that provides an equal measure of autonomy and agency, and no, public transport doesnt

>> No.51621151

>>51621051
Hmm, you ever heard of walking? Doesn't get more human than that, punkass bitch

>> No.51621158 [DELETED] 

>>51616769
Kys socialist faggot. I’m not giving up my car. Eat shit and die

>> No.51621343

>>51618353
Let’s be honest, that’s too many words for a sub Saharan African to put together. Is this an Egyptian proverb or something?

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>>51616873
>meanwhile, back in reality

>> No.51621406

>>51616769
yeah overreliance on cars completely fucked up american (and canadian) urban planning, our cities mostly suck.

>> No.51621501

>>51617810
Yes. Have you ever seen had to deal with inner-city niggers before, especially ones on drugs?

>> No.51621547

>>51617792
they announced yesterday that they've told the train companies to fix it in 3 months to have a single universal ticketing sytem euro wide, or they are seizing everything no compensation as punishment

>> No.51621553

My car was incinerated in a fire last month. I spent the majority of the time since then taking the bus. Now that I've got a replacement vehicle, I am sitting nice and comfy because it cuts my daily commute time in half and I don't have to waste even more time changing busses to go anywhere nontrivial throughout the city. And weather is a non-issue once again.

>> No.51621680

>>51617912
>decent and you're only going somewhere in the city why not an ebike
Just bikes are enough. 10km radius from home is reasonable, particularly if your area is flat. Don't need ebikes unless there are hills.

>> No.51621690

Black people are the worlds boogeyman. People will gladly ruin their own lives if it means that blacks people also suffer.

>> No.51621692

>>51617977
Is this meant to show that things were nice before? Maybe they were but that does not look comfy mate

>> No.51621695

>>51617550
i'm rooting for ya, buddy.

>> No.51621709

>>51618063
I will reply for Australia. In capital cities there will be shopping locations in each suburb, typically near higher density residential. I don't need a car to shop. I could fit my families weekly shopping in paniers if I biked easily enough

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>>51616769
IMAGINE DEPENDING ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO MOVE AROUND WHEN I CAN TURN ON ALL MY 8 CYLINDERS AND GO ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY

>> No.51622117

>>51617913
So much this.
>>51617863
>>51617908
Public transportation will never be comfortable. End of the fucking story. Yeah it's better for the collective than everyone in their own car, but it will never beat the experience of driving your own vehicle and going wherever the fuck you want to go, regardless of how much money governments invest on it.

>> No.51622171

cars are fun once in a while but i'm all for carless society

>> No.51622404

>>51616769
>walkable city
What sort of meme is this? You going to walk 2 miles to the grocery store with a rucksack and then back to the 4th floor of your apartment?

>> No.51622452

>>51616769
1. Mandatory work from home for all knowledge jobs.
2. High speed rail along all major interstates
3. Federally mandate the distribution of corporate offices that have more than 200 employees outside of current city limits to spread out population.

>> No.51622487

>>51619656
You will die in a lithium fire unable to open the doors. 1st responders will watch you burn alive because your meme handles won't present themselves as they approach. They will be unable to cut the roof off for fear of being electrocuted. You will be burned from the feet up hiding in the back seat. This is the future you chose.

>> No.51622512

>>51622452
>Federally mandate the distribution of corporate offices that have more than 200 employees outside of current city limits to spread out population.
>What do we need to do to kill car culture? MORE suburban sprawl!
Dumb faggot

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>>51616873
this is your mind in mutt

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>>51616769
The Netherlands is proof walkable cities and cars can coexist.

>>51616873
You're missing the point. Most people who drive cars in the US aren't car enthusiasts, they're commuters who do it out of "necessity" because the other infrastructure is so terrible.

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>>51616769
i love you anon please never stop posting

>> No.51622673

>>51616769
>Yet another thread where anon copes with being too stupid to get a license and too poor to get a car
I see we're well on our way to 300 replies just like every other time we havr this thread

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>>51616769
last time i took a public bus some black guy started pissing himself and you had to step over his piss puddle to get out of the bus. bought a junk car after that and never had to deal with that shit again. sooo yeah no thanks!

>> No.51622768

>>51616769
We can talk about improving America when there are ZERO niggers, and I mean none.

>> No.51622772

>>51617753
The cost of a car to the average consumer is a benchmark against which waged can be measured fairly well through the decades. Its one of the last bastions of individual living standards that hasn't degraded too much, so it makes sense the latest trend is to eradicate it.

>> No.51622811

>>51622597
>The Netherlands is proof that walkable cities and cars can coexist.
The Netherlands has practically no niggers

>> No.51622825

>>51617908
>it's not freedom when you literally don't have a choice but to use a car half the time anon
Yes it fucking is.
>It's not freedom when you literally don't have a choice but to walk half the time anon
How the fuck does that make any sense? If you traveled back in time five hundred years and said that you don't actually have real freedom of movement because most of the time you're forced to walk everywhere, they'd think you were a crazy person.

You are a crazy person.
It is objectively better to own a car than to not own a car. You objectively have more freedom of movement as a car owner that you do as bugman that is reliant on public transportation.

>> No.51622869

>>51617939
>car and their parents won't let them out because they could get hit by a car because where they live isn't walkable. so you get isolated children that never go outside and have adventures and find other kids to play with, and they become antisocial paranoid poorly adjusted adults. basically creating an entire generation of people who will for the most part fail to become functioning adults. and it's car dependence to blame. why pretend there are no flaws to car dependence?

That's a nigger problem not a car problem, and its even bigger in cities than urban areas. Do you think urban parents are letting their ten year old kids go outside and "have adventures"?

>> No.51622879

>>51616769
>have car in suburb
>can go anywhere i want
>never forced to sit next to a smelly groid
>lots of parking
>insurance isn't that expensive

walkable cities are a meme, i don't understand the benefit. i drive to work, drive to gym, drive to the city center, drive to the park, and it's actually a good experience

>> No.51622991

>>51616873
I have a Tesla and I will never buy an ICE car ever again. I give Ford and VW 3 years until they go bankrupt.

>> No.51623506

>>51622991
Ford will make more EVs than Tesla in 3 years. Maybe you’re thinking of GM?

>> No.51623703

Just came here to say I hate america so God damn fucking much. Please nuke us Putin get it over with fuck these niggers and white niggers

>> No.51623903

>>51617628
I've gone 120 in my shitty Carolla, cars are still gay.

>> No.51623929

>>51617536
>involved feral trash blasting music, overdosing on drugs, or jumping around like fucking animals. I would rather eat glass than be stuck using fucking public transportation.
Where the fuck do you live?

>> No.51623940

>>51617863
>Man Americans are fucking humongous faggots. What the fuck happened to the country that beat the shit out of the Brits at their peak?
Turns out you're not the same as your ancestors, pussy.

>> No.51624035

>>51622879
doesn't scale, just like your pathetic shitcoins

>> No.51624075 [DELETED] 

>>51618335
It's only reddit tier to you because of the massive infrastructure to support such a retarded society with cars. And like you point out, without niggers walkable cities wouldn't just be a fantasy.

>> No.51624165

>>51616769
Unironically this. Being able to get around CONFORTABLY without needing a car is such a magical feeling.

This is the once walled city of Korcula. You can fit two Korculas in one Costco

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>>51624165
Pic

>> No.51624179

>>51616769
>Yes I'm 27 years old and too scared to learn to drive and get my license how can you tell?

>> No.51624201

>>51616873
I can sense your low economic status.

>> No.51624202

>>51619258
> I will choose to live in the country
Spoken like a true pussy

>> No.51624232

>>51622597
>muh cars
Retard. There ain't no compromise here. We either get these abominations on wheels off the fucking streets, or we run everything into the fucking ground, and then remove them anyways.

>> No.51624261

>>51617706
Based. I don't want to buy product on wheels retard. Keep your consoomer bullshit away.
Being forced to buy product on wheels is not fucking freedom retards.

>> No.51624276

>>51624035
Enjoy sharing space with stinky niggers, swine. You are not a person. You have no rights. Your life is invalid. You do not, can not, will not matter.

>> No.51624304

>>51624276
What a fucking sensitive pussy you are. You sound like you haven't touched grass in eons.

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Cycling is a common mode of transport in the Netherlands, with 36% of Dutch people listing the bicycle as their most frequent way of getting around on a typical day[1][nb 1], as opposed to the car (45%) and public transport (11%). Cycling has a modal share of 27% of all trips (urban and rural) nationwide.[4] In cities this is even higher, such as Amsterdam which has 38%,[5] and Zwolle 46%.[6] This high frequency of bicycle travel is enabled by excellent cycling infrastructure such as cycle paths, cycle tracks, protected intersections, ample bicycle parking and by making cycling routes shorter and more direct (and therefore usually quicker) than car routes.

>> No.51624402

>>51624202
I will break into your apartment and cut your taint open, rape it, and pour bleach and hot sauce into it. Then we'll see who the pussy is. I will drive nails into your eyes and your ears. You will not see. You will not hear. Your life will be the hellish nightmare that you deserve.

>> No.51624430

>>51624402
>I will break into your apartment
You will break into my nonexistent apartment and do fuck all, because it does not exist.

>> No.51624484

Where did this sudden influx of anti-car faggotry come from? I've seen this garbage pop up on /pol/ as well and it's actually sickening to see people unironically linking that Not Just Bikes faggot basedboy in this threads

Here's a solution > if you want to live in some fucking gay "walkable city" because the mere sight of cars triggers you, fucking move somewhere else. These obnoxious faggots can't stop railing against MUH SUBURBS because they're such a WASTE of precious INFRASTRUCUTRE. Go fuck yourselves. People move to the suburbs because they like them. They like having a fucking backyard and ample space. They like the lack of niggers and spics. They like the low density. I could not give less of a shit about using fucking public transit with the other degenerates, or living in some dense disgusting city packed with niggers. If that shit makes you happy, go move there instead of forcing others to conform to your desire of what makes an attractive city.

Bikes are fun for exercise but anyone who takes a bike as their primary mode of transportation is a faggot and doubly so for those who advocate that EVERYONE take a bike EVERYWHERE. Good luck packing everything you need for a trip to the beach on a bike, especially if you have kids (not that any WALKABLE CITY faggot will ever reproduce).

All you faggots need to shut the fuck up and/or kill yourselves. We will never redesign our suburbs to make you kale males happy, so fuck off and take your furbabies to the Netherlands or some shit like the NJB faggot did. At least he stuck to his convictions and moved elsewhere because Canadian suburbs triggered him so hard.

>> No.51624524

>>51624484
>muh product on wheels
>must consooom product on wheels
>must destroy civilization for product on wheels

>> No.51624530

>>51624430
Yeah because you died because I raped and killed you. Now suck my cock nigger fagling (not even a grown faggot)

>> No.51624564

>>51624530
>Yeah because you died because I raped and killed you
>muh schizo deranged delusions

>> No.51624633

>>51624524
Correct, yes. Deal with it or move elsewhere.

>> No.51624730

>>51624633
>Correct, yes
>A proud slave to product
Consoomer cuck

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>>51624304
the only way someone can say this with a straight face is if they've never actually lived in a low-income high-density area.

of all the different people i've met in my life, at all the different jobs i've had and all the different places i've lived in, i've NEVER met a SINGLE person who lived in close proximity with working class people and didn't hate the experience.

and city planners always pitch these high-density pods as a way to reduce footprint AND price, so obviously well behaved professional-class people are not really the target audience in these kinds of city designs, but ironically they're the only ones who could actually live comfortably with others of their same social status.

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>>51616873
friend in highschool hospitalized for 7 months because some street racing beaners tboned them and mom going 90 mph in a 40

>> No.51624921

Imagine being a full grown man and taking the bus or riding a bike kek

>> No.51625370

>>51616769
>Boston replaced inner city highways for bike only lanes with parks which improved traffic congestion.
no they didnt you stupid faggot, they moved their highways underground below the city

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>>51616769
How do we get you ZOGBOT shills off our board? Like this post is organic. GFY.

>> No.51625393 [DELETED] 

>>51617550
kike

>> No.51625427

>>51624865
Driving and property ownership for land/home owners only. Solved it.

>> No.51625481

>>51624815
>the only way someone can say this with a straight face is if they've never actually lived in a low-income high-density area..

I have lived in a low income high density area before you retard.
New orleans to be exact.
You and the lot you interact with sound like little rich pussy bitches.

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>>51618466>>51619790>>51621690
>>51622171
>>51622452>>51624165
>>51616769
>>51616769
>>51619825
>>51619867
>>51619897

kike

>>51618483>>51618566>>51618614>>51619026
>>51619164
>>51619213
>>51619258
>>51619463
>>51619591
>>51622729>>51622811
>>51622869
>>51622879

exactly. its kikes.

>>51621158
>>51621051
>>51620330
>>51619887
>>51619836
>>51622768

based

>> No.51625554

>>51625427
voting too. voting is a privilege for land owners who pay taxes and thus have a vested interested in the running of the state.

>> No.51625626

>>51625539
>schizo

>> No.51625739

>>51616769
bunch of disgusting poors and niggers in this thread...

>> No.51625806

>>51624319
OK but what do wealthy people who have an actual choice use?
>>51624484
Faggot raids from plebbit.
>>51625554
Yeah can't wait to have every landlord voting for more immigration

>> No.51625820

>>51625739
>Richtard

>> No.51626015

>>51616769
none of those countries have millions of feral urban apes who will murder and rape you.

>> No.51626033

/n/igger

>> No.51626972 [DELETED] 

>>51616769

Collective transport system does not work with browns and blacks. Its that simple.

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>>51616769
Dogfags ruin it

>> No.51627099

>>51618070
>it's bitch transportation
yes.

>> No.51627167

Same thread verbatim that has been posted on many other boards

Must be a spam bot.

>> No.51627228

>>51616769
>>Children who cannot travel without car rides have devastating effects on independence and critical thinking.
You'd have to get rid of black people and troons before I'd worry about sidewalks.

>> No.51627245 [DELETED] 

>>51616769
You need to remove niggers first

>> No.51627994

>>51622825
I think the point is moreso that you have MORE viable choices of transportation (including cars) in the better-designed cities of Europe and Asia, whereas murka sorta sucks if you don't use a car. And as has been mentioned, cities being designed around cars incurs a large number of other drawbacks.

>> No.51628009

>>51627245
And dogs

>> No.51628149

>>51616769
Cars allow you to live in the suburbs and country where you have more space, less noise and privacy. If urbancels want to ride the bus, fine, give them buses. I don’t care.

>> No.51628199

>>51616769
you cant have walkable cities or even public transportation with black people, the united states has made its decision

>> No.51629269

>>51616769
not just bikes on jewtube.

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Meme material for walkable cities.

>> No.51629481

>>51617810
Niggers sucker punching unsuspecting pedestrian.webm

>> No.51629545

>>51624484
Glowies putting out anti car propaganda on youtube

>> No.51629574

>>51624484
Moving forward we are at serious risk of urban sprawl due to cars terra-forming most of the earth into a wasteland of asphalt.

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>>51616769
>Just use the public transportation goyim

>> No.51629934

>>51624484
Blessed post.

>> No.51630313

>>51629620
it's fine in white cities, see >>51629269

>> No.51630369

stop responding to /n/ bait threads,

>> No.51630403

>>51622117
>So much this
Go back you massive faggot

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>>51630313
>It's fine in white cities
But we don't have those, and obvious problem is still there. So the whole thing is just day dreaming and a (((plan))) to cause misery

>> No.51630480

>>51616769
Ya. Cars are unironically shit. I honestly don't understand it. Even in shitty American cities like Cleveland, the public transit plus my legs were good enough for every trip. I can't imagine living in car hell like Los Angeles and not wanting to eat a fucking bullet stuck in traffic on the 5 at 2pm on a work day.
It's literally unbelievable how defensive car cucks are.

>> No.51630500

>>51630430
The solution is easy and should already have been done.
Station on foot police officer pair patrols in various areas and station security officers on the trains.
Right now all our cops are in cars driving around, but in a walkable city they will be embedded in the community, walking around, on small ATVs, that sort of thing.

>> No.51630548

>>51630500
Police was raycis and is now defunded ser

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>>51630500
>The solution is easy and should already have been done.
The solution is "easy" yet it's never implemented. Niggers are a golden calf in America if there is police in the subway is to make sure that you don't defend yourself. Niggers will commit all types of atrocities and no one will bat an eye. Ignoring this because "muh walkable" is at best ignorance and at worst pure malice

>> No.51630627

>>51618278
>punishing poor people for existing
I don't see the problem

>> No.51630657

>>51617536
>goes wherever I want
>gets towed and impounded at owner's expense
heh, nothin personal, kid.

>> No.51630699 [DELETED] 

>>51616769
>get in the bus, goy

>> No.51630713 [DELETED] 

get rid of the brown people and maybe we can have that

>> No.51630806

>>51628149
>More space
>Dime lot cuck thinks he has more space and not an illusion of sprawl, parking waste instead
Kill yourself unironically.

>> No.51630811

>>51630430
just move to Europe

>> No.51630872

>>51628149
>>51630806
The solution to this is also easy.
Cars are banned only in urban areas that exceed a predetermined population density.
There is a mass parking garage on the outskirts of Los Angels for example, but the city itself is all walkable.
Cars are freely permitted in rural areas and small towns.

>> No.51630879

>>51630561
Ok retard. Instead of dealing with niggers by seeing them, you'll just get killed by one as he drives through a red light in your car utopia you so love and that is much more likely than anything happening because you see a smelly nigger on a bus.

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American culture is centered around cars. They live in car-dependent cities. They killed hundreds of thousands of high-speed rail proposals to mass-produce cars. They listen to car podcasts. Their second richest man is the CEO of a car company. They dress and act like drivers. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from cars. They post pictures of their cars on social media. They watch NASCAR in worship of cars. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of sports funded by car commercials. They use car rhetoric like "in the fast lane" and "backseat driver". When you say "Tesla" they're not thinking of the father of modern electrical and mechanical devices. They're thinking of the car company. Their cities are completely overrun with cars. They worship their COGbot police force disproportionately filled with drivers and their global police force of soldiers filled with drivers. Their men sit around fantasizing about retiring and driving vintage cars while their women sit around listening to drivers license by Olivia Rodrigo. They worship cars like the F-150 and the Jeep and the Mustang and the old Cadillac while attacking the trains that actually built their country before cars took over. Their movies are filled with cars and their music is full of lyrics about cars. They sit through 20 minutes of car commercials just to watch a 1-hour television program.. They consider it a rite of passage to learn to drive and get a license. Their children play Red Light, Green Light and collect toy cars and watch animated movies with anthropomorphized cars. They obsess about cars to a point where "Ford" does not make them think of their 38th president but about a car company. They will tell you how much they hate cars and how no one actually watches Fast & Furious and they are just pretending to love cars but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of car loving drivers.

>> No.51631229

>>51630910
based

>> No.51631233

>>51630480
Only 30% of Americans live in cities. The rest are in suburbs and rural areas, where cars are better.

>> No.51631259

>>51631233
>Only 30% of Americans live in cities.
Citation?
California has almost 1/3 of the USA population in it and the whole state is nearly one giant mega city.

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>>51616769
Chuds really want to raise their kids in the woods next to this

>> No.51631387

>>51630806
What are you even talking about? Living space is objectively cheaper outside of cities.

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>>51630910
Yes.

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>>51631259
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/demographic-and-economic-trends-in-urban-suburban-and-rural-communities/

>> No.51631562

>>51624179
he probably has it cause like all of us he is forced to drive to interact with even the smallest aspects of this society

>> No.51631651 [DELETED] 

>>51631387
I never mentioned cost once you dumb space wasting fat nigger.

>> No.51631664

>>51630430
Avoiding public transport won't help. You have to leave your car at some point and will find yourself in the same situation, whether it's in the grocery store or at the gas station or when dealing with a home invasion. Or maybe you'll have the golden luck of getting car jacked by a lookalike of the guy in that video.

>> No.51631729

>>51631664
Or as I mentioned before. In the nigger containment zone near me, all the niggers just flaunt the rules of the road and will do crazy shit like turn left on a red light. It's so bad the area ended up installing red light cameras. You'll just get slaughtered by these scum no matter what and a car won't save you, it will literally be your coffin.

>> No.51631820

>>51631651
So again, what are you even talking about? I meant that for any amount of money, you can buy a place with more space in the suburbs or country than in the city. The exception possibly being in ruined cities like Detroit where they have $1 houses.