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Welcome fans and speculators of shiny cardboard, this it the /tcg/ general on biz. Pokemon, MtG, Yugioh, Metazoo, etc.

What have you been buying? What trends do you see in the next 5-10 years? Personally, I am stacking WOTC-era, first-edition Pokemon slabs and I have recently gotten into Metazoo. I really want to know what biz thinks of Metazoo.

> Is MtG dying?

> Has Pokemon peaked?

> Thoughts on Metazoo? Is it a bust?

>> No.51588222

>>51588196
im a newb, where can i track (price charts etc.) of top tier pokemon cards?

and how liquid is the actual market or is it just a hobby basically

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>>51588196
Stay away from unregistered securities, picrel will come for you too.

>> No.51588386

>>51588196
Fuck off Rudy

>> No.51588530

>>51588222
https://www.pricecharting.com/category/pokemon-cards

https://tcgtrends.com/

Pokemon is probably the most liquid of the TCG's. It's pretty incredible how valuable some of these cards have become. The pandemic drove the collectible market through the roof. I would say it's much more than a hobby at this point.

>>51588375
kek.

>>51588386
Idk who that is but fuck Rudy.

>> No.51588771

>>51588530
>in the tcg space
>doesn't know rudy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOwudMOHwhs

>> No.51588868

>>51588530
The Pokemon card bubble popped during the scamdemic.
Digimon cards are replacing it

>> No.51589186

>>51588771
Holy shit lmao. I don't really watch Youtube for TCG stuff but that's hilarious. I think MTG is going down the tubes. It is the TCG i've actually played the most of and it holds a special place in my heart, but after pandemic I am hearing the physical scene is in shambles, all online now.

>>51588868
Digimon also went crazy during the pandemic. But you're crazy if you think Digimon is replacing Pokemon... The Pokemon TCG is arguably more popular than ever and Pokemon is the best selling IP of ALL TIME.

>> No.51589569

>>51588196
I have a couple hundread yugioh cards I tried put on FB marketplace with zero success. I'm thinking about reaching out to local comic shops to ask if they are willing to give me pennies for the bulk

>> No.51589635

Getting out of mtg, going all in on ufc cards

>> No.51589679

>>51589186
Yeah mtg has been doing bad the past 5 years, only value is in vintage.

>> No.51589984

>>51589569
I think Yugioh is headed the way of Digimon where there are only niche collectors, however, those that are into it are REALLY into it.

>>51589635
>>51589679
Totally agreed. Commander and vintage is where the money is. If you're into the game and understand the meta there is still good money in speculation.

UFC cards? First time hearing that. I don't like sports cards but there is always a place for them, it seems.

>> No.51590072

>>51589984
They started in 2009
Sealed boosters autos 1/1's
There's alot of value in sports cards, similar to vintage mtg prices
I love ufc and once I found out about the cards, ditched mtg.
It's sad with mtg, it will likely still be around but worthless

>> No.51590140

>>51589984
>I think Yugioh is headed the way of Digimon where there are only niche collectors, however, those that are into it are REALLY into it.
I think it's always been pretty popular here in Europe. I think it's only second to pokemon as of now in terms of popularity

>> No.51590547

>>51588196
Personal speculation over the last 3 years I've invested in card games:
>MtG
it's lost most of its traction, the generations that play this are too old and they don't pass their knowledge down to children since most normal children are not interested. it only goes downhill from here. a safe investment could be the power nine cards, anything else will get reprinted until it costs nothing
>Pokemon
it peaked hard during covid, but thanks to the franchise name it's a cycle. you can never lose money long term holding the rare cards. some people invested in sealed booster boxes, those are fucked
>other games
card games are in decline in general, card shops have been dying out and it's impossible to somehow stop the online trend that started years ago. if I were to predict the fate of card shops, I'd give them 2 decades at most before they switch to being antique or generic toy shops. right now there is zero incentive to open a new lgs unless you like bleeding money, and covid is over so this won't get any better.

>> No.51590566

First for Metapoo.

>> No.51591325

>>51590072
Yeah, I can totally understand the logic here. UFC is the newest sport to permeate pop culture and it is globally successful... Based on that the market for it could be huge down the road. UFC is way more popular than baseball, right?

>>51590140
Problem with Yugioh money-wise is that Konami just reprints everything. If you play the TCG, that's probably a good thing though.

>>51590547
Great insights. Hard agree on MtG. Pokemon will hit new highs nearing the 30th anniversary, also following cyclical releases of new games. LGS definitely suffered from the lack of in-person interaction during pandemic but I do think they're still profitable. All of these guys seem to be doing Ebay as well and their stores are serving as a hub for people to bring collections/collectibles in for the store owner to buy at dirt cheap, pawn stars prices. My buddy owns the LGS here and he buys all collectibles, TCG's just a small portion.

>>51590566
Metazoo is actually cool. So early for this game though and it's going to be hard to gain traction without anime or something.

>> No.51592340

>>51588196
what do I do if I have two unlimited charizard holos in pretty good condition?

>> No.51593618

>>51592340
Send them to PSA and get them graded if they’re in good condition.

>> No.51593740

>>51588196
I still have hundreds of Pokémon cards from the 90s. Grew out of it just before they expanded the original 151, but kept the cards. Don't think I have anything worth anything though. A few holographics and a set of three foil 90s pocket monsters cards from Japan in the original sleeves that are pretty neat.

>> No.51593784

What should I be collecting? I bought a few yugioh boxes earlier this year and I got some decent stuff, but I don't see it really going up in value over time.
When I look up the values on the new Pokémon cards, the yugioh cards are worth more but Pokémon is the more popular tcg... wat do?

>> No.51593873

>>51593784
Sealed pokemon boxes exclusively. Booster boxes at MSRP (aim for under $100) have historically been one of the most solid investments even. Don't fuck around with singles it's a waste of time. Sealed product.

>> No.51593885

>>51588196
Jannies delete this trash

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So is this stupid thing worth anything? It's probably a 10 since I got it off the actual line (stole it) and I have a lugia 1st edition also

>> No.51594056

>>51593873
Thanks for the advice anon. I'll start doing this.

>> No.51594070

>>51593935
>base set 2
Maybe $50-70

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What do the frens think of the coomander W40K set from mtg? Legit the first time in years i'm hyped for a product made by jotc.
The arts are neat, the lore is comfy, mechanics are interesting, cards are good but not broken... seems like a homerun to me.
Preordered a set to have fun with, but i wonder if i should get more to keep them sealed, but i fear a lot of ppl will do the same..

>> No.51594286

>>51594070
Why? It's a charizard? Why is it worthless for being base set 2? Is that subject to change or something?

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It's WOtC vintage for me. Nostalgia is going to be a powerful force on the other side of the collapse.

>> No.51594749

>>51594505
damn nice card

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>>51588196
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>>51589679
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>>51594286
>>51594505
>>51594749

>Muh trading cars
>Muh pokemon
>It's all le original please give me 100 bucks for a piece of paper

Any retard could fake that shit. I could literally go to google right now, google "Pokemon card" print it out, seal it in plastic, cut off the edges and put it on ebay and retards would buy it. There is no fucking way to see if something is real or not.

Hell I have been doing this for Nintendo64 games for ages.

>Buy them at aliexpres
>Pay 10 dollars
>Get them 10day shipping
>Compare to the real deal
>Looks all the same
>Put them on ebay "ORIGINAL NINTENDO 64" for $40
>Retards like you all can't tell the difference anyway
>Make $30 profit

Usually it's just autistic children or moms trying to buy it for their kids.

Go fuck yourselves.

>> No.51595205

>>51594842
t. nocarder

>> No.51595502

>>51588196
how much do cards that weren't kept perfectly over the years go for? i have a 250 gallon wood crate full to the brim with wotc era pokemon cards and japanese cards from the same era. mostly first edition. at least two shadowless charizards. my parents were very rich in the 90's and i kept everything.
i always hear that they have to be 10/10 fagdick condition, are my cards worth anything?

>> No.51595537

i also heard lego resells well? i have nearly every single theme set from when they began up until 1998 but they're not in boxes and i have no manuals just a ton of rare bricks. i'm only missing 2 of the star wars sets otherwise its a literal complete collection. is that worth anything?

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>>51594842
fucking retarded bitch

>> No.51595639

>>51595537
lego sells well, if it's just a fuckton of loose pieces then you're best off selling the lego by bulk weight, maybe sell the minifigs and custom/rare pieces as a separate package

>> No.51595701

>>51588530
and how do you usually buy & sell them? (how can you trust they're legit etc.)

>> No.51595709

>>51595502
First edition and shadowless can be really expensive if graded at 8 or higher. But that's because the vast majority of old collections are in trash condition. Any creases and you're already knocked down to 6 at best. The more valuable the card the more important it is to have it graded/authenticated because like the fag above said, it's not hard to make fakes (but he's wrong that skilled authentication services aren't a prominent part of the collectibles market).

>> No.51595812

>>51595701
>how do you usually buy & sell them
Ebay or local game shop
>how do you know they're legit?
Slabbed by a well-recognized grading service in most cases (PSA has large brand recognition but relatively sloppier grading, BGS and CGC are slightly less well known but have rigorous and detailed grading). Or occasionally you might know the chain of custody from the original pack opening.

>> No.51595882

>>51595639
yeah its basically a giant crate that contains every theme set from Town to Adventurers, some duplicates. and a ton of kinect and mindstorm stuff.
if its best to sell it bulk weight i'll probably just give it all away to my friends with kids. that's why i kept it all, but i wound up being a manlet fag. rip.
>>51595709
some of its in binders, the rest is just a cardboard box full of cards. its been through a few moves but otherwise has been untouched since like y2k. maybe i'll get lucky when i dig it out of storage.

>> No.51595910

>>51595502
>mostly first edition
99% of anons claim this, then when they post some samples it's never 1st edition..

>> No.51595933

>>51595910
i live next door to wotc and waited in the lines. they're first edition and real. i bought them when they were issued not from card shops.

>> No.51595992

>>51595882
Grading is stupidly expensive/slow these days because of how popular TCG collectibles are. So make sure you know what grade/value to expect from a card before sending it in, if you do so at all. Otherwise you can sell raw cards at a discount on ebay and let someone else deal with grading it.

>> No.51595996

>>51594286
Base 2 is a reprint of a reprint of original Base. Base 1 1st edition is truly where it's at, but in the end, all WOTC sets are money.

>>51594505
Very based and agreed, nostalgia will command a premium in the Information Age.

>>51594842
If you are actually into the TCG, you will be able to identify fakes and there are many guides.

Also, kys you grifting jeet.

>>51595701
I buy slabs (graded cards on Ebay) and from my LGS. What >>51595701 is saying is good advice. It's pretty easy to identify fakes in Pokemon in general, IMO.

>> No.51596095

>>51595992
thanks, that's good advice.
my buddy made almost 250k selling his mtg collection, and that was before tcg prices bubbled. i'll be happy if i get like, i dunno, a grand or something. these aren't normal kid size collections its "early microsoft investor parents living next door to wotc" tier collections.
are jap cards worth anything? i collected early print jap cards and jap first edition but never heard anything about them lately.

>> No.51596205

>>51596095
Japanese cards are generally less valuable than English because their domestic market is much smaller than America's, and because many WOTC boosters included a holo in every pack for Japanese releases (contrast with 1:3 odds for English). Exceptions include some dank promo cards that were only released in Japan.

>> No.51598125

>>51594270
Forgot to reply, but I think speculating on Commander is a winning bet in general. It’s the most popular format now I’ve heard. Plus, a lot of Warhammer fans overlap with MTG so there should be decent demand on that alone.

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not telling you autists what but i am starting to target some specific graded cards. can’t wait to have a whole set. also don’t get into collectibles and trading cards if you’re not passionate about it. if you’re just in to make a quick buck that time is over and you’re gonna be stuck holding bags that you don’t know what to do with. additionally, these threads are always complete fucking garbage full of FUD and negativity, magic is dying, pokemon is dying, meta zoo is the best, yugioh is dying. blah blah blah

>> No.51598781

Anyone have any estimates on the appreciation of the current McDonalds Happy Meal Pokemon cards? Is there anything unique about them that will make them valuable in the future? I admittedly don't know shit about Pokemon cards and their valuation.

>> No.51598791

>>51598595

Help please

>> No.51598912

>>51598660
Solid advice about passion and speculating on collectibles/tcg. I would agree with that. And this thread is merely meant to share insight and sentiment about tcg's. No one is in here trying to FUD your bags really.

>>51598781
The holographic Pikachu is the one that will likely appreciate. The rest will likely be worthless. If you look at the Pikachu's from every McDonalds release (they've put one out for like, 12 years straight), they tend to go up. I believe the 2021 one was like $14 last time I saw.

>>51598791
Selling bulk is a bitch and not really worth the time, IMO. I would take it to a LGS to see if they'd buy it by the pound.

>> No.51599032

>>51598912
>The holographic Pikachu is the one that will likely appreciate. The rest will likely be worthless. If you look at the Pikachu's from every McDonalds release (they've put one out for like, 12 years straight), they tend to go up. I believe the 2021 one was like $14 last time I saw.
Does it damage the value if I open the packs myself or would it be better to sell them as a kind of pristine blind box to interested buyers in several years / decades time?

>> No.51599176

>>51599032
Sealed product is almost always more valuable.
>a charizard is a charizard. But this booster pack could be anything, even a charizard!
This was true even before youtubers made opening packs for content into a business

>> No.51599193

>>51598912
>>51599176
Thanks m8s

>> No.51599258

>>51589679
If I have a shit ton of unopened packs from like second edition, what would be the best idea?

>> No.51599359

Anyone fuck around with Dragon ball super cards? I think theyre really well made and look sick, not too much value though

>> No.51599687

>>51599359
They do look cool, love DBZ. The only 'alt' TCG that i've seen picking up any steam is Metazoo and Flesh and Blood.

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I got this guy graded mint
Very happy with it

>> No.51600209

>>51588196
For anyone who wants alpha, buy up waifu pokemon cards. PSA 10s only. They will be the next gold rush. My PSA 10 lillie and marnie will print during the next bullrun in 2025

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Worth grading? I have more

>> No.51600401

>>51600330
Both would get low grades and if any other cards are similar condition same thing. Dunno the value of those off the top of my head, but gold stars sell well. You might be better off selling raw right now as if you grade it and get it back half a year from now those low grade cards (5-7) will definitely be lower prices by the time you got em back. The only grades that will stay high and go up in value will be 9s and 10s.

>> No.51600483

>>51600401
What makes them low grade? They’ve sat in a binder pretty much

>> No.51600496

>>51588196
hey i've been getting into the groove of becoming a content creator and ive been taking out about $1k of credit card debt in order to pay for pokemon tcg cards.
i really love the deck building and the "catching them all" aspect, gambling on camera is a lot of fun and i made a tiktok so that i can just trim the rare pulls for zoomers. youtube has a terrible algorithm for new creators so any boost helps.
any advice? everyone says i have a good voice for content creation stuff and just curious abt the the pokemon tcg content creator/ investment meta, still kind of new to the scene

>> No.51600529

>>51600483
Look at the edges. To be a 9 your card has to be flawless, so no damage whatsoever, and then to be a 10 you need the card to not only be flawless but also perfectly centered, which you as the card owner have no control over. Check out PSAs website on more of an explanation of grades, but I can tell you right now without looking at the back of those card they would both grade below 7. Mewtwo likely would get 5-6 or even lower.

>> No.51600541

>>51600037
Blue flame, nice one. One of coolest early errors.

>>51600209
Yeah this is good alpha, listen to this anon. Pokémon fans go crazy for the female trainers… especially the underage looking ones.

>>51600330
The neo shines are also good alpha but as usual, first edition is what counts. These will print along with what’s mentioned above. Also crystal holos from ex series.

>> No.51600665

>>51600496
You sound like you don’t have any prior interest or experience in Pokémon tcg. Honestly, I would consider this anons advice -> >>51598660
This kind of speculation takes passion and insight, IMO. If you want to be the kind of YouTuber that pulls packs on camera, cool, but understand there are a lot of those already and they have a lot of cash to buy the packs people want to see cracked…

>> No.51600777

>>51588196
have about 30-35k in physical cards, mostly sealed mtg. will probably offload it soon as TCG's using NFT's are unironically better in every single aspect. just tired of having a closet full of cases when digital cards are so much easier to buy and sell.

>> No.51600857

>>51600665
im not super well versed but ive had life long interest. kind of hoping for a post smartcon chainlink pump otherwise the debt will catch up to me. not scary just not ideal. just getting a feel for what its like making pokemon tcg content feel like there could be some better variety with the deck building and playing side of things but maybe i havent looked hard enough.
i guess i have money now and kind of want to break into things, really just trying to create a foundation that will lead me to success with new tcg online (you can play this one on your phone! HUGE) and the new season of scarlet and violet.
i guess im committed and just looking for perspective and i appreciate yours

( this isn't necessarily to (You))how well do sealed pokemon products generally stand the test of time? im assuming if they contain popular cards theyll do well but idek. my vision of things is skewed from the pandemic chaos

>> No.51601085

>>51600541
Was worth the G to buy it, as far as I know there’s like 10 of these world wide

>> No.51601366

I'm still holding my entire folder, extremely fat filled with 1996 cards, that I collected as a child when Pokemon was a new thing. And I'm never fucking selling them either.

>> No.51601552

>>51588196
>Is MtG dying?
Modern MTG is basically dead. Horrid art, too much leftist garbage and simply putting out far too many sets which has degraded the quality significantly. The vintage market will always thrive, similar to the T206 Sports cards. People just love the art & history.

>Has Pokemon peaked?
Doubtful. It's a massive brand that spans multiple generations/ages. Most of the collectors are still very young. It's likely to grow for the next 20-30 years as long as people continue to collect and buy the cards. There's also an increasing amount of people buying cards as an investment/asset to hide money, much like crypto.

>Thoughts on Metazoo? Is it a bust?
I don't like it. Not because I think its a bad product or idea, but because it started off as an 'investment'. This to me was the wrong/stupid approach. Pokemon and MTG cards didn't start off as investments and that is a big reason why they eventually became very valuable.

People value the experience of early Pokemon & Magic, all people will remember about Metazoo is that it was a kickstarter project that went into a bubble. I don't have confidence in it, but that's just me. I'd sooner buy Pokemon or vintage MTG because they have genuine nostalgia and collector appeal.

>> No.51601736

>>51588196
The pokemon hype was the final sign of peak weimar inflation and depression. Buy pms now before its too late. Just my 10 cents.

>> No.51602371

>>51599687
Yea, i love the foils and sick designs for them. Been stacking a few booster boxes of each kind incase they pop off or I get bored and want to open them

>> No.51602631

>>51601366
i find it kind of bearish. i find it kind of bullish. people constantly post about having hoards of old pokémon cards, so there’s a lot of untapped supply, but at the same time i feel like a lot of them won’t ever even sell the collection.

>> No.51602644

>>51600330
Grading is a fucking meme. Just sell it on cardmarket like everyone else...

>> No.51602653

>>51601085
I had no idea that error was that rare.

>>51601552
Appreciate your insights. I agree with you on both Mtg and Pokémon. Spot on really. Even though MTG gameplay is dead, it is was still the first TCG.

Regarding Metazoo - you may be right. I actually am just getting into it and wasn’t there for the kickstarter but yeah, speculation is more prevalent than the game itself at this point. The game is actually really fun though and I think it has potential. I love the artwork and cryptozoology piece of it.

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>>51602653
>>51601552

Cool Metazoo art I forgot to include

>> No.51602685

>>51594505
>have a rare 1st ed holo
>some kid scribbles on it in Sharpie
So many cases

>> No.51602836

>>51602653
MTG is still played a lot, but a lot of the newer cards and sets just don't have the value like the old ones because WOTC just pumps out way too many in my view. EDH kind of saved it in a sense as its become such a huge format thats attracted a lot of casual players, and other groups are still playing legacy/vintage and things like Alpha 40 as well. So I think MTG has a lot of playing life, it's more the way WOTC is handling the product itself that steers me away from modern collecting. Pokemon is doing a far better job with their sets.

I like things about Metazoo as well. The whole cryptids and American themes are interesting. The sort of 90s Sugimori inspired art looks cool on some cards and I think overall its distinctive compared to most other failed TCGs. I just wish it didn't have so many 'investors' shilling/promoting it and pumping it up like they did. That's what turns me off, the long-term opportunity just doesn't feel right to me. In comparison, if I see a near 30 year old MTG card, I understand more why it's valuable, but Metazoo is still so new in comparison.

>> No.51603636

>>51601552
Completely agree with the metazoo comment, imo metazoo,and to a lesser extent flesh and blood, which both have artificial considerations made for a secondary market will never have big secondary markets because they're not organic

No one is going to be nostalgic about Metazoo in 10 years because 8 year olds aren't playing it at recess and then frantically trying to recapture that feeling after they've sold their souls to go a few rungs up the corporate ladder

>> No.51604764

>>51588196
im sorry those don't look like nfts. kindly leave the building

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>>51594505
pretty sure this pretty thing is going to new me bank soon

>> No.51604799

>>51602670
fuk i thought that was a misingno from afar

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>>51604789
>he opened it

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>>51588196
>shiny cardboard

>> No.51605193

My cousin has sealed brushfire decks from the 90s. Worth anything? He wants to open them and send to PSA but I told him to keep ‘em sealed.

>> No.51605396

>>51605193
Sealed decks are selling on ebay for $200. If he gets a 10 on the Ninetales he could make money (assuming prices don't crash while he waits a year to get it back from grading). Otherwise he'll probably lose money opening it.

>> No.51605466

>>51599359
Very solid IMO. Alongside pokemon Dragonball is a longstanding and huge IP which isn't going anywhere. If you are smart you can park some funds comfortably in singles and sealed DBS. Metazoo is also a good outlier, the have a PFP set out now you should buy some anons

>> No.51605528

>>51588196
Also a big warning to anyone getting into metazoo. I love the game and the artwork but the creator is a MASSIVE faggot. He has done nothing but make bad PR choices and ostracized a bunch of creators for faggy woke reasons. Artwork is solid af though and it seems like he is realizing where hes fucking up. It has a solid aftermarket already but other anons are right about the heavy investor influence at the start being a detriment but it is leagues ahead of other Kickstarter tcgs. Just be warned the creator is a faggot though

>> No.51605666

>>51605466
>>51605528
Thanks anon. I’m really enjoying exploring the game and getting more cards for Metazoo. More about the PFP? Can I still acquire one?

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>>51588196
Out of 4 yugioh 2022 mega tins

>> No.51605714
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Psa collection

>> No.51605961

>>51590072
I’ve looked into ufc cards but fuck me theybate expensive looking at 300-400aud a box

>> No.51605999

>>51593784
What boxes you buy yugioh is very hit and miss

>> No.51606008

>>51593935
If graded a ten $1k
If you grade that Lugia and it gets a 10 $50k

>> No.51606028

>>51594270
Was interested in buying the etched foil decks but I think I’ll just buy the new Pokémon switch to keep sealed

>> No.51606064

>>51605714
Nice grades on the legendary collection reverse holos, I tried grading those once and decided never again after that. Seriously think the grader I got just hated me, but whatever.

God I have so many cards to sell and so little motivation...

>> No.51606521

>>51588196
The problem with metazoo is they print too many promo cards and collaboration cards with alt art with companies such as walmart, ebay, Steve Aoki, revive skateboards etc..

It's hard to tell what will be valuable 10 years from now if the IP still exists then.

As it stands now, their core product underperforms in the secondary market compared to their limited release/promo cards

Fun game to play though. I'm really into and am enjoying collecting, building decks and playing with a couple locals.

The owner is a complete douche though.

>> No.51606545

>>51606521
pokemon/magic have nostalgia factor and global recognition across generations that gives legacy cards value, metazoo won't have a future

>> No.51606637

>>51594270
I could understand investing in this, but to be excited for it? Its comically vulgar to rape something my stuffing it full of every cheap pop culture property, and a good reminder that normies dont have imaginations outside of getting excites for franchises. I quit MTG over the Walking Dead cards and went to ygo/digimon and havent been happier.

But yeah I'm sure these 40k decks have potential for profit, but they are going to sell ALOT and there will be many of then out there. Commander Decks arent really such guaranteed profits anymore, even after multiple years, it seems. Still worth the risk I say.

>> No.51606841

>>51604939
fiat is worse than both of those things. would rather have holo charizards over dollar bills

>> No.51607118

>>51588196
Is this really an investment anymore?
It feels like people were impressed with how expensive original sealed product is now and they just assume that modern product will give them the same returns 20 years from now, when it obviously won't.

>> No.51607184
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I don't buy cards as investments, but just to collect. I used to regularly buy 1st editions, graded cards, and error cards pre-covid; kind of sad how much sealed stuff gets bought up by influencers so they can make soi faces while opening them on youtube for clicks and views. Old sealed boosters used to be affordable... one day I'll get a graded sealed 2nd gen booster...
I do have 2 fossil sealed boosters, and one is 1st edition; bought them a few years ago and they've tripled their value
these days I only buy VS cards I don't yet have (2nd gen gym trainer cards only released in Japan)
Few months ago I got into MTG and have been buying cards I like since they're so cheap
been buying error cards, and got the Bob Ross lands box sealed, and all the Street Fighter cards because it's one of my favorite games
I want the Godzilla cards + lands at one point too

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check em

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I paid about $160 for these. Did I get ripped off and how much will they be worth in the future? I just like Eevee.

>> No.51608399

>>51605666
Oh yeah you can collection is on opensea plus they have bottomed out nicely

>> No.51608453

>>51606521
All true although the original Kickstarter stuff has held quite well, wilderness singles and now UFO are not doing well (UFO slightly better). Latest mini set it actually a good one to pick up, it's hiroquest and was released alongside Steve Aoki. 30k print run 1card per pack so those cards are pretty rare. The Mothman in that set is already going for 400-500 on ebay and will hold roughly that price based on supply

>> No.51608466

>>51608399
Btw you need to hold the PFP to buy the cars set for them. The set itself has underperformed for sure but is a solid hold if metazoo does well in the future. Even if Mike keeps fucking up a bigger company will by it from him and keep it going trust me metazoo isn't going away yet but God damn is the creator doing his best to fuck it up

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GOML

>> No.51609348

>>51588196
>Welcome fans and speculators of shiny cardboard, this it the /tcg/ general on biz. Pokemon, MtG, Yugioh, Metazoo, etc.
>What have you been buying? What trends do you see in the next 5-10 years? Personally, I am stacking WOTC-era, first-edition Pokemon slabs and I have recently gotten into Metazoo. I really want to know what biz thinks of Metazoo.

I've been buying snes cibs, please dont do this I dont want competition.

Getting into pokemon feels expensive but i was heavy in 2015 and scored a lot of cards that have 20x so I'm holdin

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>>51605694
Nice. I remember Red Eyes Black Dragon from back when i was a kid.

>>51605714
I have the neo Lugia 1st edition ungraded. Probably would grade 4 - 6 so just keeping it loose. It's a sick card, i expect it to keep climbing since it is first Lugia appearance. Love the Alakazam as well, the E series is so sick.

>>51606521
Yeah, it's kind of overwhelming how many promo's there are for Metazoo. I'm really enjoying playing the game and am looking for a local scene here to dive into.

>>51606545
We'll see. Very early for Metazoo.

>>51607118
People said the same thing about the sets 10 years ago and look at some of them now. Understanding a tcg meta helps.

>>51608453
>>51608466
Thanks, anon. I will likely scoop one of the PFP NFT's because they look cool. I don't think Metazoo is going anywhere either.

>> No.51609498

>>51609348
Very nice. I also speculate/collect retro games. SNES is definitely a grail but I think Gamecube will become the next SNES in terms of value and demand. It's already exploded but if you look at young millenials and gen z, their nostalgia is just about to peak for this kind of thing. For that reason i expect gamecube to make a better return.

I'm going to keep the /tcg/ general going but maybe it should just be collectible general... would like to discuss game collecting here as well.

>> No.51609550

>>51600857
If you’re not trolling stop being a retard using credit to open Pokémon cards and start a YouTube channel. Go get a fucking job and buy them with cash. Imagine going bankrupt over cc debt you incurred buying fucking Pokémon cards. Absolute retardation. You also sound like a grifter

>> No.51609604

>>51608664
Big jelly if thats your image anon

>> No.51609618

Flesh and Blood looking like a good investment

>> No.51609971

>>51589635
What are the best UFC boxes to buy

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>>51588196
You guys had any luck with evolving skies?
I've gotten nothing but shit desu

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>>51609498
Here are my snes games

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>>51607118
>when it obviously won’t
lol this is what i mean. people who have literally no clue what they’re talking about wander in off the street into this thread just to FUD. it’s crazy.

>>51607184
based enthusiast.

>>51607663
ehh, idk about that but also based enthusiast.

>>51605714
very solid collection. shame about the lugia, i literally can’t get excited for anything less than a 9, but it’s still nice.

>> No.51613597

>2015
>mtg is restarting its coresets, dub their new coreset as magic origins
>bought 400 euro worth of cards
>some rares, some mystics
>preserve rares and mythics in absolutely perfect condition, double sleeved, in an album
>preserve all other cards in a tight closed box, never touch them

>2022
>most cards worth less than 1$, most rares worth less than 1$
>If I try to sell it it will probably go around 50-100$ max

Fuck this shit. Your best bet is to find a new game, and invest heavily on its first few sets, but good luck toppling down wotc dominance