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I have some contacts with an insider, one who knows Dom and especially Jan very well. The reason for Andreas Rossberg isn't as innocuous as they pretend it is. There is a major, a truly MAJOR systemic fault in the IC Protocol, which recently has come under Dfinity's main engineers attention. It's a protocol breaking fault if not fixed. The team has been searching for a solution for months now, but there doesn't seem to be any. Once word gets out, the project will be completely dead. Andreas left, both because of his feelings of guilt (being a big contributor to the protocol) and his dissatisfaction with the lack of communication on Dfinity's end. This is also the reason major VC's have sold, and are still in the process of selling their stake. They expressed their diminishing trust in the team and protocol during the hackathon already.
I would not risk holding this asset, and I hope this information reaches the right audience. Sorry pissbros, I wish it wasn't true since I liked the project.

>> No.51572053

>>51572000
Jeets actually came up with some decent fud

>> No.51572063

>>51572000
whats the fault?
otherwise fake and op is a homosexual as usual

>> No.51572092

>>51572000
Hi to whoever is reading this in 2025+

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>>51572000
checked trips. if this was true you'd be posting it somewhere else. now fuck off back to icpchads tg anon

>> No.51572155

>>51572092
hi, i have a btc flower i bought for $200 on luanch date
i dont think it will go anywhere

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>>51572000
Fruit hands typed this.

>> No.51572212

>>51572155
It's over

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>>51572063
I cannot disclose that information, partly because I still have some sliver of hope they find a solution even though it's highly unlikely by now. But the main reason is that it's highly technical and requires a PhD level of cryptographic and cryptoeconomic understanding. It has to do with collusion among boundary nodes using ICP's main code architecture to bypass previous security walls.

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51572261

Daily reminder that ICP aka DFINITY/IOU already mooned

>> No.51572299

>no source
>no proof
I don't know why even bother clicking "insider" threads they all are the exact same garbage.

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>>51572000

>I have some contacts with an insider, one who knows Dom and especially Jan very well

you know multiple insiders? multiple contacts?


>which recently has come under Dfinity's main engineers attention
main engineer's or main engineers' ?

>> No.51572361

>>51572236
So what they’ve been discussing on fixing for months now on the dev forms and then you just added the devastating flaw part?

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>>51572306
One contact who has good relations with some of the team. Main engineers', there are multiple people working on finding a fix, for months now. No solution found.
>>51572361
This problem hasn't been brought up in the forums.

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>>51572236
this is jeet tiered FUD.
its a concerned already raised in the open in the Dfinity Dev Forum.
my understanding is that the number of nodes are still low now and hence technically a handful of nodes can in theory collude or be attacked to sign BTC transactions.
nothingburger.

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>>51572000
huh, for once op is not a nigger, and i saw boundary nodes be mentioned a couple of times on the dfinity forum as a potential way to attack icp in the past. seemed to be the main area
https://forum.dfinity.org/t/6-8-22-s-multi-continent-ic-outage-are-boundary-nodes-the-top-attack-vector-for-the-ic/13624

>> No.51572545

>>51572236
see >>51572530

>> No.51572566

>>51572499
Yes it has. It’s been brought up several times if you actually read the forums.

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>>51572506
That's a separate problem, which can be fixed. Like I said, this is a protocol breaking fault, core architectural code causes this. It's basically 'baked in' the system.

>> No.51572616

>>51572593
just tell us the problem you larping ape

>> No.51572617

I can confirm there is a major problem - there is a Vishnu in the blockchain and they can’t get rid of it.

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>>51572530
>>51572545
>>51572566
Like I stated earlier, boundary nodes have always been of the utmost concern among the engineers and devs. So naturally it has come up in the forums. However, this is a separate issue, one which hasn't been brought up in the forum. I was never worried about the boundary node attack vector as there were always possible solutions available. This particular problem is different, with no solution in sight and no communication on Dfinity's side.
I've been following Dfinity for years and genuinely saw it as THE blockchain solution next to ETH. This honestly breaks my heart and I still hope they find a fix, but I can't be delusional when a lot of money is involved.

>> No.51572741

>>51572000
>I have some contacts with an insider, one who knows Dom and especially Jan very well.

Me too, I have an insider at Dfinity, his name is Tyrone.

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>>51572741
My source -picrel told me that Dominic has been slamming his fist on desks and he is like literal hitler.

>> No.51572772

>>51572727
Explain it then. Explain it in the most detail you can

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>>51572617
This anon is the only one who has come close to the problem. You only missed one detail. Vishnu is actually alive in the blockchain and causing mayhem. Since you came to this conclusion yourself, I advise you to open a thread on the dev forum asking how to fix the problem.

>> No.51572901

>>51572878
So TYLER A.I. is real then. What is project mayhem??

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https://forum.dfinity.org/t/boundary-node-collusion/15585

HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

ask about vishnu as well HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAA

>> No.51573226

>>51572984
only officer can make somewhat high iq fud
the rest of the icp chads niggers can only muster vc scam as theyre low iq apes
however even he isnt as gay as you.

which leads me to believe youre an avax fudder or polygon jeet

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>>51573226
Nah, I'm just a bored pee baggie. But I've been laughing my ass off because of the anon that made a thread on the dev forum, using my exact words. If someone replies to him asking about vishnu i would die of laughter KEK

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based anon taking no chances
icp GIGACHADS ARE GMI

>> No.51573281

>>51573261
kek someone fell for a bored baggies larp post

>> No.51573380

Damn you got me worried op

>> No.51573411

>>51573261
I like you… please save this fud for 2024 after the mega pump to 2k!

>> No.51573657

Yes, it is a problem right now because of centralization. It can be solved though

>> No.51573965

>>51572984
top kek. Op, you are truly a master baiter

>> No.51574006

>>51573261
Sir, for this you are awarded a whole village of finest quality
Vishnu approves!

>> No.51574069

Ok i searched for this on the forums, seems like their solution is subnet reshuffling but not node reshuffling. Not unsolvable though

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my pees stay in frozen in time.

>roaches btfo
subnets cannot communicate
>metheads btfo
proof of shite cannot scale. retarded gas fees
>jewlana fags btfo
heh the blockchain just stopped working. lets press the pause button and reset the blockchain.
>chartdano btfo
millions of dapps my fucking sides
>fantom btfo
3 million transactions and it goes offline completely

not a single L1 here is adoption ready. every single one has its flaws. so move out of the way and make room for alien tech. ALIEN TECH.

>> No.51574312

>>51572530
> What is decentralization of boundary nodes?

>> No.51574334

>>51574312
What is that I’m a barinlet like ICP badlands I’ve been hearing about

>> No.51574347

>>51572530
What if we all just agree to not do that?

>> No.51574371

>>51574162
there is one L1

>> No.51574532

Nice vishnu posting on the dev forum boys

>> No.51574596

>>51574371
cosmos? near? luna? binance? dot? algo? hbar?

>> No.51574620

didn't read never selling, nice try long noses

>> No.51574624

>>51574596
nope. also binance really?

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>>51572000
Grug know when talk bad mean good


Big big moon coming

>> No.51574652

>>51572000
The secret is ICP was always a VC pump and dump scam that retarded bizfags just keep buying.

>> No.51574704

>>51574624
name the winner

>> No.51574738

>>51574624
i dont fucking care
it runs on aws
the EXACT tech you claim to take head on
tell me how much it costs to store a photo on chain with your shitty L1
you cant
fucking roach

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51574752

jesus fucking christ /biz/ is shitting dfinity forums now LMAO

>> No.51574757

>>51574704
kadena. in the hundreds of threads ive been in, no one has ever been able to give a single legitimate reason why it would fail long-term. the only issues ever mentioned are short-term

>> No.51574786

>>51574738
are you replying to the wrong person?

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>>51574786
yes i'm talking to you

>no one has ever been able to give a single legitimate reason why it would fail long-term
this is why 99% of people think blockchain and crypto is a scam
meth heads like you don't realize your shitty chain is fully reliant on CENTRALIZED CLOUD to do 99% of your storage, and processing.
you are not a blockchain
you are an app that runs directly under aws, susceptible to the same platform risks that every other web2 app has
go do your research, newfaggot.

>> No.51574976

>>51574334
You'll be able to be a boundary node soon enough. That means you can use your computer to interface end users with the ic. When this happens then DMCAs will be powerless

>> No.51574990

>>51574886
you seem extremely fucking retarded. this is the private (kuro) version of chainweb for businesses to use that they uploaded to aws for whoever wants to use it. this is not the public blockchain. can people run a chainweb node on aws? yep. is that this image? no.

>> No.51575295

>>51574162
Apart from the racism the alien tech fud is pretty cool sounding

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>>51574990
no, you're extremely retarded
let me take a look at an app on kadena - zelcore
>Your one and only gateway to Web3
>The easiest way to find, manage, trade and truly own your digital assets and information. Download today!

bunch of lies, this is a web2 app.
your dapps run on aws, stop with the seeting.
tell me how much it costs to run this fully on-chain with babena.
i have all day, shouldn't take you more than 5 mins to figure out.
i'm waiting.

>> No.51575393

>>51575303
https://medium.com/kadena-io/kadena-private-blockchain-launches-on-amazon-aws-marketplace-9d859cc84d30

can you exhibit any amount of intelligence when fudding? zelcore is a wallet. it's also not made by kadena. it's made by flux, a different company entirely. zelcore contains your wallet for kadena.

are you ESL?

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ICP is a scam and Moonman is a scammer.

>> No.51575702

>>51575393
my bad, there's hardly any dapps built on babena so i chose the wrong one

>https://kaddex.com/
here you go, here's a dex
same argument applies
99% of the storage and processing is done on aws, while your "blockchain" does a few token transfers here and there
you're a fraud, and are an absolute parasite to the actual blockchain community.

you have no argument, you simply cannot refute the fact that your dapps are reliant on a centralized cloud which completely defeats the purpose of the advanced cryptography and security that blockchain actually offers.
unironically, kill yourself.

>> No.51575738

>>51575666
Fuck, why did no one tell me this?

>> No.51575742

>>51575393
Flux is an erc-20 pajeet token, anyone can copy an existing ethereum wallet and rename it to zelcore.

>> No.51575778

>>51572236
I'll hold my ICP thanks

>> No.51576531

>>51575702
>>51575742
>imagine being so unbelievably stupid that you don't understand basic concepts like verifiable on-chain dex AMM contracts and a native coin of a blockchain

actually retarded lmao
>unironically, kill yourself

>> No.51576543

fucking crickets, bitch
go pray to bezos and all the hundreds and thousands of aws engineers that won't shut you off at any second kek
pathetic ass normie

>> No.51576602

>>51576531
i hope you're joking
your dapps all rely on aws
on-chain is a buzzword used by fake blockchains like yours

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>>51574752
absolute KEK

>> No.51576689

>>51576602
actually retarded lmao, are the AWS vms in the room with you right now anon?

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juggabros, pls donate me some icp if youre a richfag for my elaborate larp fud

>> No.51576775

>>51576689
>actually retarded
go listen to the wanxiang blockchain summit, if you have the mental stamina to sit or lie down for 2 hours straight without distractions

most of the top ceos of the layer 1s agree that the #1 barrier to crypto mass adoption is to become unreliant on big tech for building applications

you're such a retarded normie that you believe one or two features being on-chain means it's a fully decentralized application that is better than its web2 counterparts
do better, and go read up on blockchain history. you know absolutely nothing.

>> No.51576842

>>51576775
Burden of proof is on you to show that 99% of x blockchain runs on AWS.

>uses normie unironically

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>>51576740
post address, I'll send you what's left on my nft wallet

>> No.51576933

>>51576842
i don't want you to make money.
i'm not going to spoonfeed you, because you don't know the basic fundamentals.
have a good day.

t. moonman's assistant

>> No.51576976

>>51576933
See you later retard

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>>51576881
pls no larp ser, larp very bad
this is my nns wallet 5c3ed112fe8ecc11e956734068a2424ff5ae659311b1f2a9fa50c86d978ac625
ty ser

>> No.51578764

>>51576842
It’s not a secret kek. Where do you think these nodes are running? Just a bunch of neets hosting Solana and Polygon out of their closets?

>> No.51578786

>>51576933
I know your actually moonman so why the fuck did you scam a us dickhead

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>>51576881
Apparently I got banned for my post with my neuron I'd, I'm on mobile now see picrel
My tg name is DankKurd if you still want to know. I hate jannies btw

>> No.51578883

>>51578764
I'm not talking about the RETARDED chains, seriously are all of you fucking stupid? There was a chain mentioned in the conversation already

>> No.51578932

>>51578883
just got here what's going on there pal you seem upset

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>>51572236
>it's highly technical and requires a PhD level of cryptographic and cryptoeconomic understanding
No one believes this.

>> No.51579025

>>51572000
short it to hell and post it then, make $$$$$$$$ if you really had it.
my dad works at nintendo and he says you're a faggot

>> No.51579065

>>51578932
just flabberghasted at people that are dumber than i was expecting out of this board

>> No.51579322

>>51579065
i know i can't believe they aren't buying icp
got 100 more today

>> No.51579412

i need my dick sucked n my ballz licked