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51465355 No.51465355 [Reply] [Original]

Daily KDA is a scam.
No hope edition.

>> No.51465429
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I hate losing sleep over $KDA prices but one day soon, maybe next year, we will be in a very good place. I still believe

>> No.51465440
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>>51465429
>AY id
It’s over isn’t it

>> No.51465451
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>>51465429
stop putting $ in le ticker

>> No.51465508

What's up with the tvl doing a 10x from kdswap

>> No.51465517

>>51465508
better tech wins

>> No.51465529
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[spoilder] fake acocunting [/spoilder]

>> No.51465534

>>51465517
I'm aware kdswap is better but I'm just wondering what happened

>> No.51465786
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Attention!
This thread is made by paid discord shills they want to scam you!
Do not invest in any coins they recommend, do not engage with them and do not support them in any way. They are only here to get as much liquidity as possible from gullible retards. They have astroturfed /biz/ for over 2 years by now and scammed a lot of clueless /biz/ anons.
Thank you for your attention.
SCAM THREAD!
SCAM THREAD!
SCAM THREAD!

>> No.51465808

>>51465786
did she kill herself in the end?

>> No.51465855

I couldve sold this shit at the peak and had 120 grand, now I have 9 grand seriously fuck this shit

>> No.51465860

kda is 1€ lol

>> No.51465898
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>>51465855
bro it's just money

>> No.51466438

>>51465855
I'll hold your kda

>> No.51466450

>>51466438
Don't think you have anything left to buy kda with.

>> No.51466499

>>51466450
are you talking to yourself?

>> No.51466548

>>51466499
No, I'm clearly talking to you. Are you me?

>> No.51466559

>>51466548
look, i understand that you're part of the majority of this part that is poor, but that isn't everyone here

>> No.51466579

>>51466559
board*, fuck

>> No.51466584

>>51466559
Alright, how much kda do you have and how much are you capable to buy, also why aren't you buying already?

>> No.51466612

>>51466584
5 digits+ worth
her kda at a discount
kda isn't €1

>> No.51466639

>>51466612
And what is your target if you're buying at 1? 2?

>> No.51466663

>>51466639
another 5 digits worth

>> No.51466683

>>51466663
what is your sell target?

>> No.51466712

>>51466683
higher

>> No.51466731

>>51466712
ok, final question, if you're so sure about 1 euro why aren't you selling all your kda now and shorting it to 1?

>> No.51466771

>>51466731
who said i was sure about €1, that's my entry

>> No.51466991

>>51466771
>>51466559
>>51466438
I think you're just a coping tranny.

>> No.51467032

>>51466991
are you ok?

>> No.51467053

>>51467032
No.

>> No.51467185

>>51467053
sucks for you

>> No.51467308

>>51467185
brutal

>> No.51467443

Well don't stop now, you've only had this back and forth for 40 minutes.

>> No.51467509

>>51467443
sorry, im working out rn

>> No.51467563

>>51467443
it's been over

>> No.51469951

Anyway, sisters, how are we going to afford ffs with current kadena price?

>> No.51470129

>>51469951
Mexico or Russia and you can probably afford it already.

>> No.51470203

>>51470129
>Russia
they will just kill you and take your money

>> No.51470267

who else /comfyshortingeth/

>> No.51470306
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>>51470267
im shorting ethW instead
>imagine calling your shitcoin ethW

>> No.51471133

I have a feeling Emily realised femboys are sterile so she doesn't come here anymore.

>> No.51471161

>>51471133
Femboys aren't sterile though.

>> No.51471189

>>51471133
I'm not sterile

>> No.51471227

>>51471161
those that are on hrt should be
>>51471189
proof?

>> No.51471364

>>51471227
>proof?
tee-hee

>> No.51472515

>>51471364
Well?

>> No.51472520

>>51472515
That was my proof

>> No.51472544

>>51472520
insane reply speed
zoomers do be quick

>> No.51472550

>>51472544
thanks

>> No.51472561

>>51472550
how do you do this? is this hrt special power?

>> No.51472572

>>51472561
Yeah you unlock if you level HRT to 32

>> No.51472578
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>>51465355
kdanons told me flux was a shitcoin a few months ago and i sodld and now it's out-performing kda
I guess i deserve this for listening to trannies although flux is just doing hex tier memeshit, airdrops amongst other bullshid that does nothing to their fundamentals and only impacts price momentarily noted in defi shitcoins many many times

>> No.51472685

>>51472578
It being a shitcoin doesn't mean it can't pump. It is fundamentally a shitcoin though.
I think it's a really good short target right now desu (I said this when it was 1.30 a week ago too), overpumped on BTC/ETH with no news and will dump way harder if market takes a new leg down. That chart is a classic gigapump gigadump shitcoin chart from 2017. Compare with DASH on BTC/ETH ratio. My gut tells me it will just pump and dump over and over grinding lower and lower like Litecoin BTC ratio.
Basically I am not wrong and fuck flux it's useless.

>> No.51472688

>>51472572
I'm already at level 32. All I need is to add hrt.
>>51472578
flux only reason to exist is to be a token that outperforms icy pee while providing similar services

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>>51472578
This, so much this (except I was the kdanonie that told you it's shit) little did you know that I had a bunch of fluxies that I buyed the second it got listed on the best exchange and now, finally sold.

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51472728

should i keep shorting or am i getting too greedy
chart of a literal shitcoin thats valued at 1.5 bil mcap

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>>51472685
>>51472688
prove it
>>51472689
giv me my fundsu backu rightu noaw

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>>51472728
I'll keep my eth shorts open until eoy
>>51472783
You gotta give it to me I was fudding something that was shit even though I had baggies in them, I'm like a superhero putting other people over me

>> No.51473069

>>51472783
prove what
>>51472801
please stop shorting meth

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Remember, if you feel shitty and are filled with ennui, its because you are fucking idiot and didn't sell the piece of flaming shit at $28 and you are a low IQ chud clinging to the edge of the cliff of dying hope.

>> No.51473228

>>51473174
Yes, thats exactly what I am. A filthy helpless brainlet who fell for the tranny narrative. Im so stupid it hurts.

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>>51465429
Kda looks promising desu, the Blockchain is safu, and i never doubted it for once just as i feel comfy with elrond, a platform where holoride is building a VR metaverse gaming project for in-car entertainment.

>> No.51473433

>>51472728
Where are you shorting?

>> No.51473516

>>51473433
only place you can short that garbage on rn mexc

>> No.51474390

>>51473174
Who are you telling this to, everyone sold at 28

>> No.51474881

>>51473174
why would i have sold during bonding retard? I got thousands of KDA for free just sitting on my stack for a year

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>>51474881
Is it really free if it locks you out of selling during a major runup and then dumps before the lockup ends? 30% gain, but can't sell the peak. Almost all "staking" has a hidden cost unless you're planning to hold without taking profits even if it goes up 100x. I think it's worth thinking about. I witnessed so many people talk about 10-20% inflation, refuse to sell and watch their investment tank 60-98% instead.

>> No.51475037

>>51473404
>note to self: elrond is being shilled by paid pajeets on /biz/, avoid it all costs

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>>51475037
To be fair even if GPT didn't shill it, this is an even bigger scam than Radix and THT combined.

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>>51475077
Oops, forgot to turn it to max for full lulz.
$10M usd per year no problem~!

>> No.51475220

>>51475094
Lol what the fuck it's the same as the radish slider

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>>51475220

>> No.51475261
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>>51474390
I didn’t sell any

>> No.51475290
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Inb4 dumb phoneposter

>> No.51475302

iToddler!!!

>> No.51475314
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>>51465429
It's KDA, not $KDA.
>>51475261
>>51475290
Dumb phoneposter.

>> No.51475408

>>51475261
Oops!

>> No.51475437

>>51475261
i didn't sell any either
want a hug?

>> No.51475800
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PoW is dead
Etherum killed it
the govt around the world will forbid the usage of PoW because of muh climate change
Jump ship.

>> No.51475827

>>51474943
it is worth thinking about anon, good point. and desu prob the last staking program i do at least beyond 3 months or so

>> No.51475839
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IT'S OVER

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>>51475800
Lido and Coinbase can already kill Ethereum overnight. Some guy in a thread yesterday said they couldn't halt the chain because that's not how ethereum works and all I could do was laugh. There's the argument that if they do that they'll lose all their money, but to begin with a lot of it is just their customers funds at loss, and if government raids them and seizes the assets under threat of lifetime in prison for terrorism funding they can do a hostile takeover of the entire network overnight whereas with mining pools the miners can just switch to another pool or go solo. The government is not motivated by profits, but control. They have no reason not to do this now that Lido has processed transactions to a sanctioned entity Tornado Cash. Government collects money in fines, seized assets, and regains control.
Ethereum is insecure and has lost all value overnight. Even Vitalik argued against it in 2014, I assume the governments have something on him, family threats or prison sentencing from his pedo activities.

>>51475827
People who accumulated ridiculous amounts who then pay for influencer marketing to pump and dump coins definitely do analytics on staking programs to know when staked users have most incentive to shill as hard as possible to keep the price high before lockin ends and to ensure they get maximum exit liquidity and can dump before most locked whales can even begin selling.

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>>51475975
cyberpunk has the same vibes as call of the night (I don't actually know I only saw one EP) so maybe something worth looking into after you're done with it

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>>51476488
>CYBERPUNK: EDGERUNNERS tells a standalone, 10-episode story about a street kid trying to survive in a technology and body modification-obsessed city of the future. Having everything to lose, he chooses to stay alive by becoming an edgerunner—a mercenary outlaw also known as a cyberpunk.
Q3 2022 is truly an amazing season.
I have so many watching shows that I've almost finished.
Also want to watch https://anilist.co/anime/142769/Natsu-e-no-Tunnel-Sayonara-no-Deguchi/ which aired in cinemas week or two ago, but long time until blueray rips, no torrent...
And holy shit braces are annoying. At least it makes me look younger aha.

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>>51475975
The global financial system runs on physical consensus. That's how we got to where we are now.

Using intelligence/game theory (proof of stake) to come to consensus is an innovation. It should be explored.

Using military (proof of work) to come to a consensus is to repeat.

>> No.51476611

>>51476488
Did you watch Arcane by the way? I watched some of it and it was really good actually. Regret not finishing it, too late to jump back in.

>> No.51476623
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>>51476582
Do I look like a fish? I'm not biting today.

>> No.51476831

>>51476611
No, fuck that. Lab generated garbage, even if it's good I'll think it's bad because I hate leauge

>> No.51476858

>>51476831
I didn't expect to like it because I want nothing to do with league anymore, but the voice acting and animations were really good and the story was captivating. By your standard I shouldn't watch Cyberpunk either because I hate modern video games so damn much.

>> No.51477011

>>51476858
Yeah but trigger a cute

>> No.51477974

>>51476858
Why do you hate modern video games?

>> No.51477992

>>51477974
Appeals to the male fantasy.

>> No.51478553
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reminder that AVAX is the Black Man's coin and KDA is for little wh*te fuckbois

>> No.51480238

>>51478553
Ok?

>> No.51480302

>>51465508
>>51465534
That was just a glitch
But still accumulate KDS, they're about to release multiasset staking within the next 2 weeks. I expect at least a 3x once that happens

>> No.51480320

>>51480302
>I expect at least a 3x
>bear market
anone?

>> No.51480446

>>51480320
My KDS stack has already done a 2.5x since I bought in, and this is before staking as an option
Not saying it's the next Uniswap, but KDSwap is going to surprise a lot of Kadenatrannies

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>>51480446
anone, why lie?

>> No.51480582

>>51477992
What do you mean? There aren't many games with lolis at all.

>> No.51480648

>>51480524
You do realize the token's been out since May and was cheaper up until around August, don't you?

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>>51476581
lmao based

>> No.51481881
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>"CD Projekt Red first got the character design for Rebecca and they were like 'She's a loli. Lolis don't exist in Night City. It doesn't fit the Cyberpunk 2077 aesthetic'. But Trigger was like 'No, the loli must stay.'"

>> No.51481891

>>51480582
lol, I didn't even see this post otherwise I'd have (you)'d you

>> No.51482186

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT FUCKING HAPPENED AGAIN, ALL MY TABS ARE GONE, I DIDN'T LEARN ANYTHING

>> No.51482240
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Kadenasisters...

>> No.51482553
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the classic chink UI font

>> No.51482680
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>>51482553
all that bullies deserve

>> No.51482899

>>51482553
W-woah a l-lending p-platform on k-kadenya?
Aah-I can finally stake my KDA for one p-percent a year?!

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Just tried lemon, pretty good

>> No.51484263

>>51479268

>> No.51484346

>>51482899
is lending a bad thing

>> No.51484364

>>51484346
No, it's something much needed for the ecosystem. According to website testnet launch Q3 this year and mainnet mid Q4. No idea if that's gonna happen or not or if they're gonna pull a Kaddex with delays, but hopeful anyways.

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>>51484263
I love her so much. It might seem like I only care about getting the last post but really I started doing this because I always woke up when the thread was on page ten and wanted it to end at a high point.

>> No.51484667

>>51484346
its very good, and I can't wait to stake my kadenyas for 1% a year!

>> No.51484682
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>>51484416
Cute :)

>> No.51484724

>>51484667
I had a running joke where I would reduce the percent by another decimal every time I mentioned it. It's 0.001% now I think.
Some people might want to cash out in advanced ways to lessen tax burden so it's very possible APY can end up above 10% during a bullrun. High liquidity is necessary though for the security of the protocol. Also important to take note of risk of smart contract failure, it would also be foolish to stake 100% of your stack on one protocol alone.

>> No.51485340
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>>>/adv/27322059
Bump for Americans.

>> No.51485365

>>51484667
Is people using a dapp on kadena a bad thing

>> No.51485442

>>51485365
No its a great thing, I already told you that! I honestly can't wait to stake my kadena at 10% APY!

>> No.51485513

>>51485442
my eyes are rolling

>> No.51485530

>>51485513
I honestly don't know what you want me to say but I certainly can't wait to stake my kda!

>> No.51485569

>>51485530
you can say whatever you like, that's the point

>> No.51485580

>>51485569
Even the nword?

>> No.51485600

>>51485530
with how much APY

>> No.51485619

>>51485580
do you normally?

>> No.51485628

>>51485619
No, not really. There aren't any around here.

>> No.51485710

>>51485628
any what?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwDg-ZuhE-c

>> No.51485733

>>51485710
Any nice people.

>> No.51485925

all this animeposting for such a shitty coin

>> No.51485952

>>51485925
Whats "shitty" about kadena?

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>>51485952
>bullies luring cute posters like wolves in sheep's clothing
>meme big block scaling
>Proof of Waste

>> No.51486015

>>51486001
all true, can't argue with that

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>>51486001
Please don't bully PoW, it's very cute

>> No.51486034

>>51486001
*chomp*

>> No.51486265

>>51485952
what makes Kadena special? why would I use this? these threads are an echochamber of kda miners shilling proof of work kadena.

>> No.51486295

>>51486265
kadena is the only scalable pow blockchain, anon!

>> No.51486371

>>51485340
>>>/adv/27322369
Should I warn him that the security officers in Istanbul airport are going to make him take his hat off and laugh at him.

>>51486001
/biz/ is the nicest place on the internet. If people here hate you you are the problem.

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>>51486371
>/biz/ is the nicest place on the internet

>> No.51486452

>>51480302
An extra layer of security to users information should be considered just so potential hacks or exploits are avoided. Have you got some crystal ball to its gonna do 3x?

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>>51486406
Name 5 nicer places.

>> No.51486494 [DELETED] 

>>51486481
[This messages was removed by the FBI]

>> No.51486556

>>51486481
my bed
my other bed in 3 days
one particular discord server im in
/fit/
/sp/f1

>> No.51486577

>>51486481
The €1 Party
The $77 Party
The €10 Party
The $777 Party
The €100 Party

>> No.51486595

>>51486577
>The $77 Party
>The €10 Party
>The $777 Party
>The €100 Party
those don't exist

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>>51486595
Wtf not fair, you also used something that doesn't exist yet in your post

>> No.51486637

>>51485925
Animeposting good or bad?

>> No.51486655

>>51486637
probably bad
/biz/ is a frog/3dhogboard

>> No.51486698

>>51486577
Those are events not places.
>>51486556
Discord is malware. /fit/ stopped being good more than 5 years ago and /sp/ is too retarded to be either nice or mean.

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>>51486655
The only two generals of any significance are anime friendly.

>> No.51486782

>>51486698
You're just jealous you can't be as nice as /fit/ and /sp/.
>>51486706
monero not of any significance and I can't trade boomer stocks so smg is not for me

>> No.51486800

today I will cleanup + sort my folders for real for real

>> No.51486924
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>>51486800
Imagine not enjoying sorting folders.

>> No.51486945

>>51486924
There are a lot of things I enjoy doing that I don't do

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>>51486017
neo-maxis are attached to the idea a comfy order will magically appear without intellectual efforts nor fuller understandings because it sounds easy and beneficial to them. while they are wasting billions of investor funds on burned hardware and energy, other blockchains are investing billions in actual infrastructures that provide utility. pow tokens are literally not needed and the incentive structures is much less resistant than pos due to higher constraints and financial requirements to be sustained. eventually L2 will be more valuable than L1 since they can benefit from the security of multiple networks like link's CCIP
>>51486371
t-tyrant

>> No.51487085

>>51486999
But PoS is a scam

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>>51486999
PoW is not the holy grail, but it's the best solution we have.
PoS is shit but I'm open to L2's on a proper PoW chain.

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>>51487085
share a reason why pow tokens will "go up" other than just being a ponzi
pow security is weak among other things:
- chip manufacturers can use new tech to attack competing chain's miners
- no reason to believe inflation or fees will ever produce sufficient value to resist attacks, especially if orchestrated at country-scale. whereas in pos, buying a large amounts of token move markets which makes attacks exponentially costly if not impossible
- pos can be as financially inclusive as desired, but blockchain devs are too closed-minded to consider such dynamics
- maximalism has never worked and will never work
- if pow were the sole solution to a world order, we would already have it after ten years. considering everybody wants one
- resources exploitation for asics hardware are done in terrible conditions, and things can get much worse in some anarcho-capitalism environment, especially on non-censorship resistant platforms like kadena
- token not needed, literally
- miners will switch to whichever platform is the highest paying, whereas dapp developers will do exactly the opposite (since it will be completely transparent to users, like how nobody cares which traditional bank a corporation has contracts with when using their product). such competitive pressure is unsustainable and will render all pow networks irrelevant in time, unless flipping consensus
>>51487366
pos does not financially benefit you but it doesnt mean its worse somehow
i dont actually care what gets adopted in the end since i feel cross-platform dapps will be bigger than any single chain

>> No.51487631

>>51486999
>>51487547
https://twitter.com/SpiritOfNakadai/status/1543661965268107271

What's funny is the only thing pos had going for it was computational scalability (which is debatable to begin with), but pow has that now with kadena

>> No.51487662

>>51487547
Please don't assume everything is about financial benefit.
A fair PoW algo and tokenomics allows for equal access and opportunity to participate in the network, that's not possible with PoS.

>> No.51487712

>>51487547
>chip manufacturers can use new tech to attack competing chain's miners
there are 3, it seems selling asics is better than trying to attack your golden goose
>no reason to believe inflation or fees will ever produce sufficient value to resist attacks
bitcoin, eth prepos
>especially if orchestrated at country-scale.
where are you gonna get asics?
>whereas in pos, buying a large amounts of token move markets
just airdrop 70% of supply or be exchange, or buy otc
>pos can be as financially inclusive as desired,
communism can be achieved if you have enough slave labor
>maximalism has never worked and will never work
worked fine for btc for quite a while
>if pow were the sole solution to a world order, we would already have it after ten years
have you heard of this concept called "job"?
>resources exploitation for asics hardware are done in terrible conditions,
most of btc energy is green, eth was a shitpile of the lot ye with too many home rigs
>token not needed, literally
I agree.
>miners will switch to whichever platform is the highest paying
can't switch your miners if your miner mines one thing only, miners gotta shill to make profit
>whereas dapp developers will do exactly the opposite
dapp developers will switch to whichever platform is the lowest paying?
such competitive pressure is unsustainable and will render all pow networks irrelevant in time, unless flipping consensus
worked wonders for eth, innit

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>>51487631
reality is groundless
pow will melt down as easily as pos
kadena somethingsomething big block
>>51487662
it is possible with pos. in fact, its even more likely to happen in pos than in pow, since latter is crippled by carefree race dynamics where users cross fingers that things will go the right way. in the former, it is possible to fine-tune incentives in ineligible and altruistic ways.
>>51487712
>seems selling asics is better than trying to attack your golden goose
"seems black swans dont exist"
>bitcoin, eth prepos
none of these has reached critical mass of ponzigrowth
>where are you gonna get asics?
from a foundry that makes asics
>just airdrop 70% of supply or be exchange
centralized exchange will be less and less relevant with dapps. otc still move markets indirectly since it fills buy pressure anyway
>communism can be achieved if you have enough slave labor
>worked fine for btc for quite a while
unrelated
>have you heard of this concept called "job"
n-no
>most of btc energy is green
use the ponzi money to directly invest in sustainable energy instead
>I agree.
i agree
>can't switch your miners if your miner mines one thing only
miners can diversify their asics and mine multiple chains
>dapp developers will switch to whichever platform is the lowest paying
no, the platform that is less costly and more effective.
>worked wonders for eth, innit
if eth wasnt able to sustain the billions burned away in pow despite all the ponzimoney flowing in and first mover advantage, it speaks a lot. bitcoin is next to transition

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>>51487876
>>I agree.
>i agree

>> No.51487985

>>51487876
>Reality is groundless
Relevancy?
>Pow will melt
Thanks for your opinion
>Big block meme
Is a multi core cpu actually a single core in your eyes?

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>>51487876
>pow will melt down
PoW will melt faces.

>> No.51488077

>>51487876
>"seems black swans dont exist"
same can be applied to pos, much easier at that
>centralized exchange will be less and less relevant with dapps
you can always just kill the person holding the biggest chunk and use it for your own goals, pos validators are well known also binance just grows in volume every year so kinda debatable statement
>otc still move markets indirectly since it fills buy pressure anyway
2 days ago someone traded half a mil of btc otc in less than a minute
what about those sweet sweet 70% airdrops like eth and solana tho?
>none of these has reached critical mass of ponzigrowth
yet both have shown l2s don't work unless your l2's hands are brown and smell really odd
>unrelated
prove it mathematically
>n-no
well how about you get one
>use the ponzi money to directly invest in sustainable energy instead
why would you ever do that when it makes no profit for you?
>i agree
Glad we both agree!
>miners can diversify
babena miners are blacked twice
>no, the platform that is less costly and more effective.
Fees are low on kda. If you're talking about energy consumption I would rebute that with running PoS costs circulating supply x token price
>bitcoin is next to transition
You're next to transition! And thats a good thing!

>> No.51488182

>>51487547
>pow tokens will "go up" other than just being a ponzi
Whereas the only reason PoS exists is so line go up. It's literally designed to benefit stakers, with multiple mechanisms cooperating to achieve this:
>reduced issuance
>transaction fees to stakers
>fee burning inflating a staker's relative share of total issuance
Every aspect of the system is designed to get Ether to go from the hands of people using it into the hands of those "securing" (i.e. holding the power of censorship).
Soon Every staking pool will have minimums for entry, and that barrier to entry will only go up over time. This is fine for people who are starting staking now, maybe, but this also implies that the system will not get more decentralized.
>pow security is weak among other things:
>manufacturers / new tech / attack
mine* not attack, this is a good thing. PoW hardware becomes obsolete because new generations of hardware are orders of magnitude more efficient. This system rewards innovation while also making playing by the rules more profitable
>pos 51% impossible
Every time someone points out the other game theoretical flaws in Ethereum's PoS as a whole, people instead pivot to talking about its robustness to 51% attacks. I think they lean pretty heavily on the belief that all attacks on a protocol are 51% attacks, despite this being pretty far from the truth.
>pos can be as financially inclusive
The most powerful attacks one can pull off against a cryptocurrency are censorship attacks--something that is not prevented by PoS, and is a property that relies entirely on the staking set not being centralized.
>resources exploitation for asics
there are much worse things to worry about if we want to talk resource exploitation.
>non-censorship resistant platforms like kadena
You have not disproven what the team said about this, furthermore PoS is much worse in that regard.
>token not needed
good, I don't want token holders to have power
>miners will switch
asics

>> No.51488250

ok now I'm ready for sorting files

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made 2k shorting ethw, rent for half a year is sorted
wgmi sisters

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fuck I completely forgot I was shorting eth, didn't get liquidated.
also what the fuck is wrong with kraken

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>>51488610
Gains, banzai~
That chart looks pretty funny with the volume and all. Classic fork shitcoin.

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>>51488077
>much easier at that
pos is much easier to save in a fork if it fails for some reason
>pos validators are well known also binance just grows in volume every year so kinda debatable statement
mining use lots of energy and hardware that are impossible to hide in significant amounts, unlike pos where a majority of voting power can e
ven be anonymous
>otc in less than a minute
priced in, you are still filling up buy pressure
>yet both have shown l2s don't work
zk is still in development. again kadena doesnt do anything special when it comes to scaling
>prove it mathematically
godel's incompleteness theorem
>well how about you get one
n-no
>why would you ever do that when it makes no profit for you
love
>>51488182
>literally designed to benefit stakers
this is a meme that keeps being repeated in kadena circles but it is not grounded on anything. non-dilutive inflation does not punish anyone in particular, it just shuffle meaningless numbers around
>Every aspect of the system is designed to get Ether to go from the hands of people using it into the hands of those "securing"
every entities is trying to survive in their own ways. the fee amounts are insignificant relative to the value created by dapps, which have themselves their own inertia and feedback loop of growth. i dont even think eth is a good example of pos anyway. fees on dfinity are paid in stable coin (cycles), where platform tokens are more like governance tokens and can be staked indefinitely without fear of being diluted even as a user.
>this also implies that the system will not get more decentralized
centralizing forces are present in all structures, pow and pos are not exception to this. just pointing one out is irrelevant. bitcoin's token distribution is not better in any ways, and kadena is even worse.
>this is a good thing
this is definitely a single point of failure pow may not be able to recover from. pos does not have such critical flaw, which is one reason to switch among others

>> No.51488690

not even kucoin has this listed, and their entire job is listing scams

>> No.51488724

>>51488675
ye, literal chink fork shitcoin thats why it was so obvious to short
sold my measly 32eth stack there, shorted right after, god I hate daytrading
>>51488690
they've been slacking lately, they didn't short a single eth fork

>> No.51488736

>>51488690
>shorted
listed obviously

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>>51488182
>someone points out the other game theoretical flaws in Ethereum's PoS as a whole
point one
>something that is not prevented by PoS
it is not prevented by pow either. only takes ~2 mining pools on kadena to censor transactions
>much worse things to worry about
everything deserves attention
>You have not disproven what the team said about this
literally all they said is "it wont happen trust me"
>good, I don't want token holders to have power
then switch to pos, pow can only be sustained by ponzinomics
>asics
"miners can diversify their asics and mine multiple chains"

also pls dont bully the messenger

>> No.51488771

>>51488753
>point one
circle's we're not censoring txes narrative will end as soon as fbi shows up at their door

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>>51488771
censorship is only habbening faster in pos because most staking operators are based in america, unlike mining pools which are usually in china. if latter wanted to censor western transactions they would be very easily able to do it. as previously stated, its impossible to hide significant mining power

>> No.51488861

>>51488833
>unlike mining pools which are usually in china.
uhm, you should check that again

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>>51488861
doesnt matter where they are. economy of scale in pow is worse than pos in practice.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kadena/comments/x9zhv4/we_are_screwed_guys_this_is_the_last_nail_in_the/

>> No.51488924

>>51488879
>economy of scale
PoS does not have upkeep costs that scale with stake. This by definition means that PoS has economies of scale that favor larger stakers. You can make the argument that a larger PoW miner pays less per unit hashpower than a smaller miner, but that just means upkeep costs scale sublinearly. PoS costsdon't scale at allwith respect to stake. This is strictly worse scaling from an "economies of scale" perspective.

>> No.51488937

>>51488753
The reality is that the future of crypto is multichain. Pos and pow both have vulnerabilities, and various chains have different trade offs re: cost/efficiency/security. But it’s obvious that users will be able to arbitrage these different layers in such a way that will be best for their specific transaction or application. It would take enormous effort and resources to successfully attack any one blockchain, but if all the blockchains are interoperable what would be the point ? You’d have to attack them all at the same time, so the difficulty becomes exponential.

>> No.51488950

>>51488937
Wrong https://old.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/rwojtk/ama_we_are_the_efs_research_team_pt_7_07_january/hrngyk8/

>> No.51489099

>>51488950
>r eddit

Seriously?

>> No.51489107

>>51489099
shut up for a sec I'm trying to mentally prepare myself to sort folders

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>>51489099
>Just some guy's comment.
If you can't attack the content, attack the character?

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>>51488924
staking rewards are proportional and non-dilutive, you ignored my posts again baka. your interpretation of reality is backward
>>51488937
>The reality is that the future of crypto is multichain.
i actually feel that it is. this is why im sharing all these ideas. blockchain is a fraction of the technological stacks that will sustain dapps in the future but there is hardly reason to hold the platform tokens other than during the small timeframe where fees are being paid, but it can be swapped instantly back and forth.
>users will be able to arbitrage these different layers
dapps will pick blockchain just like how corporation chose between different banks or web hosting services. numbers are irrelevant in the long term, influences will come from truthful information and understandings.
>if all the blockchains are interoperable what would be the point
yes. blockchains will be decentralized, not only at the individual level but as a collective.
>>51488950
meaningless link fud

>> No.51489321

>>51489190
Not to mention private blockchains and cbdcs. It’s going to be interesting watching it all unfold.

>> No.51489439

>>51489190
Every implementation is different, if you say PoS I'll think ETH, don't care about ICP because I think it's a useless scam. Does ICP even run under any kind of PoS?
PoS on ETH exists because devs gave up and want price go up. That is the only justification.
The main thing about PoS I don't like is the fact it's a system where the largest holders can be the largest holders forever, and there's literally nothing you can do about it. No amount of capital, technology, or innovation can unseat them. Having wealth for the sake of having wealth is absolutely not the thing we should be rewarding. No base layer should work like that.
>you ignored my posts
>>51488687
>this is a meme
It's not
>It is what it is
yes
>It is what it is
yes
>which is one reason to switch among others
it's not a critical flaw, saying it is doesn't make it true
>>51488753
>point one
Physically attacking largest holders
Stealing their keys remotely
Large scale misinformation to get people to vote your way (eip1559)
>it is not prevented by pow either.
It mostly is, don't use ghost chain as example
>It is what it is
yes
>pow can only be sustained by ponzinomics
literally other way around
> diversify their asics
huh? like other chains also using the same algo? other ghostchains
>dont bully the messenger
don't think I said anything about you just nau
>meaningless link fud
ok

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>>51489439
>don't care about ICP
dont be attached to assumptions. this is even more detrimental if they are beneficial in the short term
>even run under any kind of PoS
its pos with treshold signature
>devs gave up and want price go up
if they just wanted the price to go up they couldve just been pertually grinding the pow narrative. yet they spent years of effort to make radical improvements
> That is the only justification
not reality
>The main thing about PoS I don't like is the fact it's a system where the largest holders can be the largest holders forever
not different from pow. rember corporations like google have never been outed from their dominant position in decades. in time, pow ecosystems gives full control to whichever asic manufacturer manages to raise out of the rat race. pow is monopolistic by design since the biggest manufacturer eventually completely overshadow smaller ones, its impossible to make competing chains, even if pow algorithm due to how chip tech are readily repurposed. this is really different from pos where making your own chain is literally costless. we could have ecosystems that are much more decentralized, diverse and inclusive as a whole if more resources are allocated to pos than pow. what atom's ibc is trying to achieve is the right way
>Having wealth for the sake of having wealth is absolutely not the thing we should be rewarding.
why do you even consider platform tokens as meaningful in any ways. dapps will run on multiple chains. those tokens are just meaningless place holders, which is why its better to not burn all your value away in pow.
>it's not a critical flaw
it is
>Physically attacking largest holders
>Stealing their keys remotely
easier to do in pow
>Large scale misinformation
happen on any system, including pow. without proper governmental structure, peeps default to whatever social consensus is the norm
>literally other way around
pos infrastructure is virtually free compared to pow

>> No.51489932

>>51489910
even if pow algorithm *differs

>> No.51489948

>>51489910
>>Stealing their keys remotely
>easier to do in pow
go do bed

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>>51489948
>hack mining pool code
>social engineering attack
literally easier to attack than pos
i wasnt talking about keys

>> No.51490028

>>51489974
>literally easier to attack than pos
is this a joke? in case of pos you can just use phishing attacks to get keys

>> No.51490045

>>51489974
So what made you go from liking pow over pos to hating pow?

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my 75x eth short is not doing good

>> No.51490090

Lago bridge just got drained

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>>51490028
yo can phish atac miners to
>>51490045
vc seeds

>> No.51490099

>>51490094
>seeds
like, cum?
> phish atac miners to
that iconic moment when I phish a miner and his entire farm appears in my living room

>> No.51490108

>>51490090
Thanos can you PLEASE stop it with the negativity

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its over kadenyas :(

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>>51490144

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>>51490099
i need vc daddy to use me and invest his seeds

>> No.51490230

>>51490090
Source?

>>51490203
where's the banned woof coin when we need it

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>>51490230
dunno what yo talking bout

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>>51490268
I can't see any reason why you're acting out against PoW other than because you desire to be disciplined.

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>>51490348
Female contrarianism

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>>51490386
Needs correction.

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>>51490348
>>51490386
i-its not like that

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>>51490452
Giddy up~

>> No.51491267

>>51490230
whalepool

>> No.51491301

>>51491267
I don't use telegram and I'm not a whale either.
That's not proof though, that's a channel where someone may or may not have posted proof.
I'd rather see on-chain transactions ITT we can laugh at.

>> No.51491589

my twitter hyperlink containing arguments against pos never got a real look from 9wgZGhx9 :(

>> No.51491927

>>51489910
>not different from pow. rember corporations like google have never been outed from their dominant position in decades. in time, pow ecosystems gives full control to whichever asic manufacturer manages to raise out of the rat race. pow is monopolistic by design since the biggest manufacturer eventually completely overshadow smaller ones, its impossible to make competing chains, even if pow algorithm due to how chip tech are readily repurposed. this is really different from pos where making your own chain is literally costless. we could have ecosystems that are much more decentralized, diverse and inclusive as a whole if more resources are allocated to pos than pow. what atom's ibc is trying to achieve is the right way
We are approaching the limits of semiconductor size and the best miners in 2035 will not be significantly better than the best miners in 2035. This is going to lead to a situation mirroring the pharmaceutical industry with generic drugs where any company can make the desired product and the one that can provide consumers with the cheapest product with economies of scale will have the most profit excluding brand loyalty. People will go back to the FPGA drawing board to try design the most the most powet efficient ASICs possible and given the inherent open source nature of crypto much of this will be available to all. We are going to be soon approaching the limits of how much computational power you can get out of an ASIC with a given amount of electricity similar to how we reached the limits of how much horsepower you can get out of an internal combustion engine with a given amount of petroleum.

>> No.51491984

>>51491927
>not different from pow. rember corporations like google have never been outed from their dominant position in decades. in time, pow ecosystems gives full control to whichever asic manufacturer manages to raise out of the rat race. pow is monopolistic by design since the biggest manufacturer eventually completely overshadow smaller ones, its impossible to make competing chains, even if pow algorithm due to how chip tech are readily repurposed. this is really different from pos where making your own chain is literally costless. we could have ecosystems that are much more decentralized, diverse and inclusive as a whole if more resources are allocated to pos than pow. what atom's ibc is trying to achieve is the right way
We are approaching the limits of semiconductor size and the best miners in 2035 will not be significantly better than the best miners in 2025. This is going to lead to a situation mirroring the pharmaceutical industry with generic drugs where any company can make the desired product and the one that can provide consumers with the cheapest product with economies of scale will have the most profit excluding brand loyalty. People will go back to the FPGA drawing board to try design the most power efficient ASICs possible and given the inherent open source nature of crypto much of this will be available to all. We are going to be soon approaching the limits of how much computational power you can get out of an ASIC with a given amount of electricity similar to how we reached the limits of how much horsepower you can get out of an internal combustion engine with a given amount of petroleum.

>> No.51492392

>>51491301
https://explorer.chainweb.com/mainnet/txdetail/iQ8mNp0GBqO2kBA6Xm9mCizpwAdEtXjjIeWA8qAbShQ

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https://defillama.com/protocol/lago-bridge

As it turns out I’m prone to gaming anxiety. I got into gaming to get away from crypto related rumination but it’s really daunting to have monsters / machines coming after me. Should I just play cutesy games like Mario or turn based RPG games that aren’t as intense? I wanted to have a good time but I’m just scared to move forward with the game sometimes

>> No.51493078

>>51492961
why didn't they wait until it had more money in it?

>> No.51493699
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>>51493078
That’s something only they can answer but I’m viewing it as a fair bounty. There’s a lot worse out there that’s for sure. And I guess this explains why there is no more bonding because the team decided it was too unsafe to bridge themselves

>> No.51493931

>>51492961
>turn based RPG games that aren’t as intense?
I recommend Wizardry 4. It is the best entry point due to being easier than other games in the franchise. Play it blind without reading reviews or guides or they will spoil the early game.

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https://nitter.net/lagofinance/status/1571252296494759936#m

>> No.51494363

>>51494344
>maintenance
insert Hitler quote

>> No.51494425

https://streamable.com/s06naz
GTA 6 bros..

>> No.51494930

>>51492961
play citybuilders, those are comfy

>> No.51495103

>>51476582
>The global financial system runs on physical consensus
What does this even mean?

The financial system runs on balance sheets that are being kept honest by accredited accountants. I geuss in the background is the iron hand of government, but that is nesseccary precisely because it's not governed by anything physical

>> No.51495183

>>51487547
>buying a large amounts of token move markets which makes attacks exponentially costly if not impossible
Your enemy owns a literal money printer and they would like to keep their control

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>>51495183
It's not your enemy if you're a NEET dev provided for by the state.

>> No.51495598

I HATE THE STATE SO MUCH ITS UNREAL

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>>51495598
You appear angry. Maybe of you took some anti depressants you would learn to appreciate all the state does for you.

>> No.51496730

>>51495598
come to my state if you hate yours so much

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbYX4BNrTj4

>> No.51497511

>Patrick Gruhn, the head of FTX Europe, told The Block in an interview in March that FTX's goal was to become the top crypto exchange in the region. He said at the time that the company planned an ambitious marketing program that would include paid social media ads and sponsorship of music festivals.
It's over.

>> No.51497711 [DELETED] 

>The Massachusetts Institute of Technology has named Ethereum’s (CRYPTO: ETH) upcoming transition to a proof-of-stake blockchain to its list of top technological breakthroughs for 2022.
It's so fucking over.

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>>51497511
Coinmetro and FTX are the only exchanges with 0% maker fee.

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>>51497719

>> No.51498049

>>51498019
>where does the money come from
cool it down with the anti semitism

>> No.51498069

Yep. KDA should go POS like ETH. You think you're gonna be able to stake with Kevin again? Lol. Also slashing for bad actors in PoS is a much better mechanism than forking out bad (and good) actors under PoW. Because bad actors can only attack once and then have to spend money buying 51% again.
Under PoW you can keep attacking until the social layer does something (which is unproven).

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>>51498019
but if you think about it, Kuro gives life force to the viewers.
>Where does the money come from
The same argument is true for Coinmetro.
FTX also allows staking of some tokens, but obviously most of it comes from leverage trading against the market.
It could also be large scale moneylaundering, never know. Banks have been known to do that for Cartels and sanctioned entities many times before.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danske_Bank_money_laundering_scandal
>The Danske Bank money laundering scandal arose in 2017-2018, when it became known that around €200 billion of suspicious transactions had flowed from Estonian, Russian, Latvian and other sources through the Estonia-based bank branch of Denmark-based Danske Bank from 2007 to 2015
It's kind of funny that almost every crypto exchange bank accounts wants to be in estonia...

>>51498069
>Yep. KDA should go POS like ETH
Didn't read the rest and hid the post to prevent wandering eyes.

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>>51498049
>>51498083
I am flattered you both assumed I mistyped the instead of mixing up their and there.
>The same argument is true for Coinmetro.
It would be if they were profitable. Thankfully they have never made a profit. Safe

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>>51498125
>I am flattered you both assumed I mistyped the instead of mixing up their and there.
I'm flatted you assumed I even noticed the obvious grammatical error.
>Thankfully they have never made a profit
All good then.

>> No.51498156

>>51498083
If you had a better argument you would have made one

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>>51498147
>I'm flatted
Uh, freudian slip....

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>>51498194
Did you want to be flattened by a girl with cute feet or was this referring to some already finished cosmetic surgery?

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>>51498381
The former sounds acceptable, but I was gramatically incorrectly referring to the size of my chest.
>filename
oi oi!!

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How does recording price data work for a DEX? Is it on a side chain? It's obviously not in the TX record itself.

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>>51498609
Mathematical formula for token/kda ratio, and then they just use external API's to fetch the KDA price from a price aggregator from many CEXes or use a DEX USD/KDA price (we don't have a big liquidity one worth doing this to yet imo), but the KDA price is never needed for any dapp functions so it doesn't impact security. It's frontend only.

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>>51498641
>Mathematical formula for token/kda ratio
To expand on this, obviously each block has it's own ratio so you can see history like that. You should never rely on this ratio in a dapp without making it some weighted average or similar because otherwise you are exposed to a block producer publishing a massive buy/sell, abusing a protocol using this ratio, and then publishing another massive buy/sell right after in the same block to get a different ratio. This is near impossible over a longer period since arbitragers will just rekt whoever drained the liquidity (usually flashloans on solidity chains) so by taking an average of the last 5-10 blocks for example you can ensure that it's the true price assuming there is enough locked liquidity to reduce risk.
Not that I've ever written a dapp, I'm too baka.

>> No.51498761

>>51498414
>oi oi!!
One of the most boring things I ever watched. I love doujins but hentai is pure trash.

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>>51498641
>USD/KDA price (we don't have a big liquidity one worth doing this to yet imo),
This is also insane to do on a protocol level and exposes the oracle to the bankruptcy from issuer or bridge hacking and subsequent depegging of the USD token. Not good.
>>51498685
>exposed to a block producer publishing a massive buy/sell, abusing a protocol using this ratio, and then publishing another massive buy/sell right after in the same block to get a different ratio. This is near impossible over a longer period since arbitragers
I think this might be able to be abused depending on how you write the weighted average if one has enough hashrate on the chain to ensure that they do the massive sell at the end of every block and the massive buy at the start of every block, but other miners *should* have some way of detecting this and focusing massive amounts of hashrate on that chain and try to get arbitrage in and destroy the attacking pool.
Not sure if this compromises dapp chain security for TWAP if massive amounts of hashrate needs to be spent on one chain to prevent such an attack or profit from someone elses attack attempt. I think it might be a risk if there are no competitors ready to financially destroy the attacker though? Kowai.

>> No.51498800

>>51497023
https://youtu.be/ODsksJxFSfI

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>>51498761
I watched Pico X Chico too. I am glad I finally got around to watching it because of the memes but if you aren't a homosexual pedophile who likes androgenous boys and lack a massive cum load fetish the series really has nothing to offer you. I skimmed through the sex scenes on the last one too since I couldn't be bothered watching it and it seemed like they had ran out of ideas by the third episode.

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>>51499290
>I watched Pico X Chico too
>I skimmed through the sex scenes on the last one too
Impressive.
>I am glad I finally got around to watching it because of the memes
Was it worth it? Three niggas!!!!
>but if you aren't a homosexual pedophile who likes androgenous boys and lack a massive cum load fetish the series really has nothing to offer you
Strictly speaking you don't need to be a pedophile to like it, you could also be a very young homosexual boy watching it.
Are you surprised it had nothing to offer but degenerate pornographic content?

>> No.51499588

>>51499376
>Impressive
Thanks.
>Was it worth it? Three niggas!!!!
I like watching bad stuff sometimes to make me appreciate good stuff more. I really hated everything about it, The animation seemed really off, my least favourite scene was when Pico cums for the first time because the oscillating lines spreading from his hips throughout his body made me think that it was made with an extremely low budget and I hate poorfags.
>Are you surprised it had nothing to offer but degenerate pornographic content?
Yes actually. It was kind of tasteless the way absolutely everything is sexualised.

3.8/10 never watch an anime called Boku

>> No.51499713

my short is doing so good right now

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>> No.51499774

>>51499713
Okay but post a review of Boku.

>> No.51500156

>>51499376
> Strictly speaking you don't need to be a pedophile to like it, you could also be a very young homosexual boy watching it.
not sure about that, pedo, as a young faggot I found it boring and cheap af, and I watched it 14 years ago when everything looked like plastic, I can't even imagine how bad it would look now

>> No.51500214

>>51498641
>just use an API to fetch from a CEX
Then it's not really an independent DEX at all, is it? It can't be a truly independent exchange unless its price data is internally derived from its own order book.

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>>51500156
>not sure about that, pedo
Why do you insist on calling me pedo all the time?
>as a young faggot I found it boring and cheap af
That was just your opinion. I liked it. Then I got a bit older and stopped liking it.
>and I watched it 14 years ago when everything looked like plastic, I can't even imagine how bad it would look now
Not sure what this has to do with anything? I'm fine with 240p. The mind is the strongest enhancer of all, it's like live AI enhancing of quality.

>>51500214
The USD price is 100% irrelevant. It just allows the frontend to show $ prices instead of only KDA prices. You can copy the frontend code and remove it and the DEX will still work, or make your own frontend.
Anything that has to do with USD will never ever be 100% independent because USD tokens are themselves centralized.

>> No.51500275

>>51500214
>its own order book.
AMMs don't have order books.
No limit orders, no order book.

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>>51498019
I'm glad you're not too upset.

>>51498800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftrcuaqafdo

>> No.51500807

>>51498069
you're retarded for suggesting this, but you still have to continually pay in a pow attack. capital, equipment, and electricity. and if you're doing a 51%, you do this only for a near 50/50 chance to mine a block as honest miners are still mining

>> No.51500828

>>51500807
get bait'ed nerd

>> No.51500851

>>51500828
i was baiting you

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>>51500807
>spend 5B to make your competitors lose 2T
>not strategic
>>51491927
monopolies are not necessarily technological but can be formed around acquisition of resources and energy. pow has no mechanism to disincentive aggressive behaviors. problem is more nuanced than what maxis believe

>> No.51501131

>>51501106
>problem is more nuanced than what maxis believe
ditto

>> No.51501202

maybe its time to long kda

>> No.51501222

>>51501106
still didn't respond to my other post, filtered

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>>51501222
b-but i already replied. traditional military equilibrium is already based on a so called "hard ground" yet it doesn't necessarily unite collectives without additional layers upon layers of consensus and understandings. truth is not constrained by physical quantities.

>> No.51501424

kadena might be dying but at least i kissed a cute girls yesterday

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>>51501106
Your image is a thumbnail so your argument is invalid.

>>51501424
You kissed girls? Tell me more.

>> No.51501503

>>51501424
Whore!

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>>51501443
n-not saying pos is necessarily better than pow, but each has their own set of flaws. im starting to think some kind of hybrid between the two could be intersting
if you are a scientist or engineer working on pow systems, its reasonable to think both systems can coexist

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>>51501753
>some kind of hybrid between the two could be intersting
digibyte

>> No.51501960

>>51501753
what if they both just inherit all the flaws and no advantages just like me?

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AZERO beats KDA in every aspect

>> No.51502098

>>51502036
Name one aspect

>> No.51502142

>>51502098
sats gained this week

>> No.51502377

>>51501443
yes, she have short hair

>> No.51502784

i never know what's going on in these threads,

do i fucking buy or not just tell me that. Does kevin still like KDA or no

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>>51502784
d-depends how patient you are. ive already moved on to other platforms, but i still think the devs can save it if they are intellectually honest and open-minded. currently pact prevents devs form making pretty much anything interesting but they are working on some lower level representation which will potentially fix such limitations. we still dont know how many months it will take, and even then we will still have to build the higher-level tools or wait for them.

>> No.51503361

>>51502784
>do i fucking buy or not
honest answer would be no cause chain is dead
shill answer would be yes, pump my bags faggot
>Does kevin still like KDA or no
he still does, but kevin murky is a scammer

>> No.51503429

>>51502784
btc is heading lower, so not yet

>> No.51503474

>>51503303
i can wait at least 2 years

>>51503361
damn, it's not even worth it at $1.45?

>> No.51503768

>>51503474
probably not
im not gonna short it at this price tho so theres that

>> No.51503878

>>51503768
I have buy orders set at $1.10, if it happens it happens. if not then o well

>> No.51504637

>>51465860
yeah you wish 1 euro was still 1.40 usd

>> No.51505158

>>51501106
>>51492961
Okay anon, POW is bad because if an entity gains exclusive control over all the silicon on the planet it's over. Energy is going to come down massively in price over the next few years after the Europeans experience discomfort this winter and realise they need to adopt nuclear power since green energy is a scam.
You are a vegan who gets panic attacks because of video games. I don't care what you think about competition being inherently bad. It stems from your own mental illness and inferiority complex.

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>>51505158
>Okay anon
>You are a vegan who gets panic attacks because of video games
Those are two different anons.
>Energy is going to come down massively in price over the next few years after the Europeans experience discomfort this winter and realise they need to adopt nuclear power since green energy is a scam.
I'm shocked it didn't happen a decade ago.

>> No.51505261

>>51505158
>since green energy is a scam
I also think this is too black and white of a statement.
Lots of green energy is good energy. For example Norway being mainly centered around hydro (and probably the only reason our bills are suffering now is because we are exporting at a massive profit "to help the europeans" as a gesture of goodwill), though that obviously isn't feasible in most of the world.
Have no opinion on wind, solar, or whatever else. Haven't researched anything at all, but I'm certain they are very good in specific locations.

>> No.51505527

>>51505261
Geothermal and hydro energy work great although hydro isn't really green energy considering the damage it does to the area downriver of it. Solar and wind energy are not capable of powering western countries. They do have niche uses of course but are not replacements for oil and gas.
>>51505214
I saw an anime girl reaction pic replying to my post replying to that poster and didn't bother checking id's.

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>>51505527
I am the uhm actually gal every time someone doesn't mention every specific edge case of a statement because they must surely not be aware. I think the appropriate gender neutral term for my behavior would be retardsplaining. I say things that are so obvious to literally everyone around me that they don't bother mentioning it and I walk in like a retard trying to explain how the world works with a lesser understanding thinking I am helping.

>> No.51506088

>>51505578
You give people more opportunities to shill their scams by mentioning edge cases so you are on the right board.

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>>51506088
The useful baka.