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How do you morally justify income taxes?

>> No.51447802

>>51447790
they don't have to morally justify it, they use violence.

>> No.51447803

>>51447790
the government needs more money, cough it up jack.

>> No.51447811 [DELETED] 

>>51447790
you are a j*w.

>> No.51447817

>>51447790
ZOOMER BOOBAAAAAA HNNNNGHHGGG

>> No.51447818
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>>51447790
You work and live in the world the government created. The government gets and deserves a cut.
You think a factory worker should keep all of the value he produces? The factory owner hires guards and keeps everyone safe. He worries about management of the factories. He deserves a cut.
There is no in-between. Taxes are justified or you are a communist, simple as.

>> No.51447855

Doesn't have to be morally justifiable. Do it or get your shit pushed in. I really hope we see the day successful DAO's like bitDAO actually overthrow government. would be wild anon.

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>>51447790

?????

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>>51447790
To help support the war effort against Germany, duh.
...We're still in 1942, right ?
>inb4 both world war have been orchestrated by the kikes too

>> No.51447879

>>51447790
That's a... a... fuckit hhnnnnggggg

>> No.51447894

>>51447790
morals are used to tell the weak what to do. it's morally justified because state is strong. at least stronger than us anyway.

>> No.51447895

>>51447790
ideally the taxes go to things that matter, sadly the bureaucracies don't let it happen.

>> No.51447907

>>51447818
lmfao wait a second
the factory pays the worker a fixed wage, hourly or annually. They sell the product, and ideally this pays for all expenses, including ***guards***, and the rest is PROFIT.
Workers don't get to participate in the profit if they don't own a part of the factory or company that owns/operates the factory.
Income taxes are where we take that factory workers pay and take some of it.

>> No.51448041

THINK OF THE SCHOOLS, hospitals and highways that we can build...

imports millions of nog migrants aka hardcore raepists instead!

>> No.51448063

>>51447818
What a cuck

>> No.51448076

>>51448041
I'm an apeist myself what kinda hardcore apes you into bro?!?

>> No.51448101

>>51448076
into the boat back home

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>>51447790
I don't disagree with taxes in principle if they are allocated wisely, but it just seems like more often than not they are excessive, wasteful, and the laws/rules around them can be needlessly convoluted, and that's not even getting into whatever corruption/skimming is likely going on.

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51448139

They are a scam. At this nation's inception and for a long time after, we financed the state through real state revenue: tariffs and excise taxes. Taxes on rich international businessmen and their products.

Sometime around the world wars we get tricked into trading that for taxes on the WORK of your average man. An absurd concept when you aren't normalized to it.

You'll notice the moment you merely mention tariffs you'll have a horde of (((top economists))) and (((journalists))) crowing and braying about how that will ruin everything.... lol. This country is cucked.

>> No.51448159

>>51447818

The people, business, activity all existed before the formation of government. Government follows the natural organization of people. It starts out innocently enough: the state is responsible for a few things directly in their purview. Inevitably, they greedily seek more and more power and oversight, and then we get to something like we now have in the West, micromanaging nanny states that hurt more than they help, economically.

>> No.51448167

>>51447863
her shadow from her arm?

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>> No.51448196

>>51447790
i dont, which is why i do everything in my power to evade them

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>>51447790
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_George#Views_and_policy_proposals

>> No.51448242

>>51447790
I wanna fuck a zoom zoom so badly bros, how do I meet them? TikTok?

>> No.51448267

>>51448139
Nice graph - to add a bit more detail, the US had no income taxes until the Civil War; shortly after the Civil war said income tax was found to be unconstitutional. Then in 1913 an Amendment was ratified that authorized Congress to have income taxes; at the time they promised everyone that only the super duper rich would pay any, but we all know how that went.

>> No.51448292

>>51447790
It gets distributed to niggers, therefore it is moral.

>> No.51448368

>>51447790
By not acting like a toddler and using second order thinking.

>> No.51448444

>>51448167
chainlink you doofus

>> No.51448474

>>51447818
Stacy in HR doesn't deserve more pay than Bill the farmer

>> No.51448577

>>51448159
What kind of businesses existed in stone age?

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>>51448474
She unironically does. HR is skilled work. Farming is grunt labor that is 99% automatable these days.

>> No.51448633

>>51448577

People still made products/items, did services, duh. Have you ever heard the term "barter and trade" you monkey?

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>>51447790
Are you still waiting for the Socialism Fairy to come in and magically pay for everything?

>> No.51448730

>>51448633
How comes business in the modern state didn't exist in the stone age? If they don't require a state, nothing should have prevented companies to form 100,000 years ago

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>>51448730

What even is this question

>> No.51448776

>>51448139
What the fuck happened in 1920 exactly? I want to know exactly what caused that shit, which politician, how he justified it. This is too fucked up, the world started to get fucked in the 20th century

>> No.51448797

If it wasn't income that was taxed, there would be no way for high-income earners to avoid taxes.

Now you understand the "justification" for income taxes.

>> No.51448803
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>>51447790
niggers need to eat, you can't just let genetic scum parasites die off, goyim. pay up and stop being antisemitic

>> No.51448813

>>51448602
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5TZVhKDwpk
point out the skill

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>>51448776
>he thinks jews need to justify them destroying the host country
wait until you hear about 1965 immigration act

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>>51447790

>> No.51448956

>>51447790
people with power create morals to solidify their power. They get to be immoral, but plebs have to follow the rules.

>> No.51449009

>>51447790
Because the government gave me everything so i could get this job.
Now why property tax is a thing for regular working class people who the fuck knows.

>> No.51449027

>>51448865
STOP

>> No.51449113

>>51447790
>morally
You don't, but fuck taxes anyway.

>> No.51449180

>>51448797

It's fucking this. People don't even get it, only people who actually earn W2 income are subject to income taxes. Newsflash: the real rich are not subject to them. It's tax enslavement of the working class. And these goats are trained to cheer for it!

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>> No.51449227

>>51447803
Government doesn’t need any money, they can just print, taxes are outdated in bidens america

>> No.51449447

>>51448242
>>51447790
ava max is a millennial not a zoomer

>> No.51449600

>>51449447
All late Millennials got relegated to Zoomer status in Internet speak.

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>>51449227
This here; when you have a fiat currency, income taxes only have three purposes. The first is to act as a brake on inflation. If we had a small government, say the size the US had prior to WWI, no income tax would be needed for this purpose; spending would be small enough that inflation would be tolerable.

The second is stifle how much money the upper middle class and lower rich class (think small business owners & well paid professionals, like doctors) has, reducing their ability to be threat to the really rich, in terms of political power & business competition. That is why almost every "tax the rich" proposals hits those groups the hardest, and leaves loopholes for the super rich to avoid.

Thirdly, selective enforcement of tax laws provides a convenient way to crack down on people the government does not like. That is why the tax code is so complicated, to make it so most higher income people will be have some issue if you check hard enough.