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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

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Reporting in
##################################
IRC- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/tzm4s
Aliases- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjbx3
Extras- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/daxte
Nodes- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/ke2k8
Mining- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/c7na4

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>>51369240
based

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>>51369240
based

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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>51282570

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START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png


>YOU CAN USE P2POOL-COMPATIBLE REMOTE NODES IF YOU DO NOT HAVE YOUR OWN LOCAL COPY OF THE BLOCKCHAIN
https://xmrvsbeast.com/p2pool/monero_nodes.html


OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (currently US only)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>AlphaBay
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market#
>Cloud Market#
>Dark Matter#
>Darkmoon#
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market#
>Pygmalion
>Retro Market#
Onion links: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/fs7ax


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Kilos
>Majestic Bank (exercise caution, possibly exit-scamming)
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/8cunb


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://magicgrants.org/funds/monero/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

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>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

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>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

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regarding atomic swaps

wouldn't the risk of obtaining tainted BTC kill the idea of atomic swaps if there isn't enough XMR liquidity? who is actually providing this service?

>> No.51369866

>>51369523
ah yes, the "china" bubble. just all of fucking china

>> No.51370105

>>51369822
no one is stopping because everyone is trying to get rid of their tainted coins due to tornado cash. https://unstoppableswap.net/

>> No.51370216 [DELETED] 

Guys some dude wanted me to put my money on worldquantumledger . com. and I want to know your opinión about the so called "quantum financial system" It all sounds like rubbish to me.

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>> No.51371716

>>51370105
but who is accepting these tainted coins?

>> No.51371831

sex with monero-chan

>> No.51372544

>>51371831
you had sex with monero-chan in the last thread too

>> No.51372649

If btc mining is banned because of green energy then what will monero mining do?

>> No.51372665

>>51372649
Monero isn't mined on ASICs and we don't have big, obvious mining farms. It's not enforceable to stop Monero mining as you would literally have to outlaw all CPUs (and therefore computers).

The law has no effect on us.

>> No.51373134

>>51372665
This. You might see one or two guys get bagged, but it'd most likely be because they were already wanted for something and feds needed their foot in the door to find more dirt on the guy. Like how Al Capone was arrested for tax evasion even though he was guilty of far more.

>> No.51373189

>>51373134
It'd probably end up like emissions laws. Plenty of people ignore those and nothing really happens

>> No.51373378

>>51372665
ASIC-resistance is such a heavily overlooked aspect of Monero, especially by outsiders. As you mentioned it's many times harder to ban Monero than it is to ban ASIC chains like BTC.

I don't have a link on hand, but this was directly shown when China kicked out the miners: ASIC chains had 50, 60, in some cases 85% hashrate drops, including Bitcoin. Meanwhile Monero's hashrate actually increased during the same period by about 10 or 15%. China could've easily seized ASIC equipment instead of simply kicking them out, in fact we're extremely lucky that they didn't.

>> No.51373398

>>51369822
>wouldn't the risk of obtaining tainted BTC kill the idea of atomic swaps
It won't for people that don't fuck around with centralized exchanges. I think most people understand that bitcoin has the highest speculative value, and are willing to buy tainted bitcoin just for that reason.

>>51371716
>but who is accepting these tainted coins?
Instant swap services, online businesses that aren't centralized exchanges, black markets, literally anyone living in a third world country, exchanging IRL, etc. I don't think this will last forever, but I think it will be a long while before the walls have completely closed in and bitcoin splits into the "Clean Market" and "Dirty Market". The reason why I think it will take a long time before that happens is because they want to create a system and infrastructure to protect and fence-in the clean bitcoin, while preventing/punishing users who take the bitcoin out the clean ecosystem (it would be tantamount to defacing or destroying currency). To achieve this they're going to need most people to be onboard with hosted wallets, more regulations relating to "who" can sell cryptocurrency, sanctioned addresses, etc. The picture I'm trying to paint here is this: a future where KYC bitcoin can only be sent to other centralized exchanges. That's what Kevin O'Leary wants, that's what the Winklevoss twins want, and that's what the FED wants. And that's what bitcoiners are gonna get.

>> No.51373509

>>51369216
>>51360727
>Me too and nobody I know knows about it or trusts it(znám i lidi s magistrem z IT co si furt jedou "btc is king" copium)

Jako asi jo. Neni to asi tak ruzovy jak sem to napsal. Personally, I usually avoid crypto discussions with normies and instead I claim to invest in stocks only :)
But I still I know few people, and I think the narrative is slowly changing. "Bitcoin is not so anonymous, so maybe we should look for an alternative." and I had surprisingly lot people curious about Monero in my high school.

We also have lots of people that spread the Monero word around, like @wilderko or Urza and some other guys, I also do some small promotion from time to time :) Check the description of "U Kulatého stolu" ))

>> No.51373948

>>51373398
I don't think they want a whitelist. I think they want a system like today, but more robust. A blacklist that all respect. On cuckit, you can find a thread where someone is like "hey fixedfloat is great why doesn't everyone like it" (one of those exchanges where you can exchange bitcoin for monero and vice versa- last I checked you needed a non-USA IP, but who knows these days).

And he's downvoted, and someone is like "I ONCE SENT THEM THESE BLACKLISTED BITCOIN AND THEY ACTUALLY MADE ME DO KYC WAAH WAAAAH" and everyone is like "YES EXCHANGES SHOULD DEFINITELY IGNORE BLACKLISTED TXO AND TAKE YOUR POISONCOIN", even on the fucking monero subcuckit.

Anyway I hate that website and also everyone who sends blacklisted bitcoin deserves what they get. It's a public blockchain, get fucking dunked on you worthless faggots.

>> No.51374414

>>51371358
I feel like her left leg is super long. cool pic though.

>> No.51374441

>>51372649
Monero has a lot of built-in privacy features and this is one area where development (via the community) is still pushing advancements.

You can run monero nodes over I2P, so it's not as simple as finding all the public IPs of miners and leaning on ISPs to give-up customer names so that you can shut them down. You also can't really go after pool operators either, because p2pool is a thing now, and it doesn't cost a whole lot to buy enough CPUs to solo mine. And buying large amounts of CPUs isn't really suspicious either (and even if it were, they're consumer items you can buy in cash). Little known fact is that even if you try to buy a computer/laptop in cash at a bigboxstore, they'll usually want to get you to fill out a form with your info so that the government can trace back anything done with that MAC address to an actual person (similar to the FFL process for firearms, except no background check and it's not as explitic). CPUs aren't like that (yet).

It's probably more effective for the government to just continue going after fiat off-ramps. At some point you'll want to sell your monero for cash and use that to buy goods. The problem is that bitcoin, monero, etc. are functioning currencies and you can often use them to buy directly from vendors (and since they can just fail to report crypto income on their taxes, you even get a discount).

>> No.51374589

>>51369216
I will never KYC. Kikes at FinCen and FATC can fuck off, I will never report my earnings. I will never deposit my crypto into the bank account. I will move the money across cyber space and buy my lambo off the 2nd hand market using XMR. Kikes scream in pain when they can't tax you.

>> No.51374603

The Jews fear XMR. Every time you buy XMR, the Jew screams in pain. The nosy Jew wants to know your wallet amount but he can't. Stand against the glowie Jew, stack your XMR.

The Jews cannot stop the parallel economy. You can live off XMR using gift cards. Food, stuff from Amazon, gas, plane tickets and hotels. You will never need to cash out your XMR. You just buy the things you need with XMR.

Jews have been kicked out of 110 countries because they're slimely subversive little fucks. Sam Bankman-Fried (born March 6, 1992) is such a Jew that steals funds from his customers.

The Jews hate people who own XMR.

>> No.51374755

>>51374603
BASED
FUCK KEYNESIANS

>> No.51375386

>>51371358
It looks like she is walking away from an explosion, being like
>Look anon, that was an IRS office!

>> No.51376217

>>51369866
that's my favorite investment bubble!!!

>> No.51376265

>>51369822
this is how I feel about the xmr ethereum swaps. Like it's cool and all but I don't know who the fuck is going to want to trade their nice clean monero for what is likely to be tainted ethereum.

The one good side is that if monero was banned I guess you could still buy it with ethereum

>> No.51376350

>mining on p2pool mini for a month causes me 30 eur loss
>gets me 0.005 XMR
Would it be smarter to mine solo on one core and hope for luck? Lower power consumption dedicated to mining, PC is less overwhelmed, still "helping" the network but less, almost equal null benefits if I never find a block.

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>> No.51377520

>>51373509
>and I had surprisingly lot people curious about Monero in my high school
That's cool. When I was in high school, some people were talking about this new thing called bitcoin, so I guess the cycle repeats itself
>We also have lots of people that spread the Monero word around
To be fair, I've never watched any czech youtube/twitter/fb anything, somehow everything in czech sounds even dumber than retards in English. I just find it weird that in my close circle dev friends, no one gives a shit about xmr, it's still btc/eth/random shitcoin

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MONEROMARKET.IO

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>>51378002
Last night I stayed up late filling 150 bottles of eau de parfum for the Monero community's sniffing pleasure.

The label printer needs to stop dragging their fucking feet and send me a proof so I can get them labeled, take pics and make a listing.

What would you pay for 30ml of 17.5% eau de parfum handcrafted by a monero enjoyer? It's alcohol-based and in fine mist pump bottles (screw-on tops so you can refill them with whatever when it runs out). Starts off peppery and citric but transitions to sweeter, more earthy/musky notes.

>> No.51378463

when’re we getting rich lads?

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>> No.51379343

>>51378463

Next Thursday.

>> No.51379606

>>51376350
Unless you basically get free electricity mining monero is not profitable. I do it to support the network.

>> No.51379726

>>51372649
It will continue to run on infected botnets just as it does today.

>> No.51379746

>>51376265
>if monero was banned I guess you could still buy it with ethereum
true, I'm guessing at a hefty premium

>> No.51380369

>>51378200
>What would you pay for 30ml of 17.5% eau de parfum handcrafted by a monero enjoyer?
Maybe? Smells like Secretions Magnifiques?

>> No.51380477

I was thinking of buying some more Monero today as to me it seems like a steady coin that doesn't go away.
Also I see it as payment option on many sites (besides BTC). You guys think Monero will grow or does a
new security coin take over?

>> No.51380731

>>51380477
I don't think Monero is going anywhere unless we get a bunch of Bitcoin Maxis who're afraid of changes. Monero currently does a fantastic job of keeping up with the community's needs and new tech, while Bitcoin is incredibly slow moving with any sort of meaningful upgrade. So if we keep up how we're currently behaving and don't suddenly develop an irrational fear of improving the network, we'll be on top for a very long time.

>> No.51380953

>>51380731
yea nice bought some more ^^ I hope BTC dies eventually and newer and better crypto coins take it's place. Also I hate ETH, so XMR is a good choice imo. Would be nice to have an electrum XMR wallet though

>> No.51380992

>>51380953
Have you considered feather wallet? I haven't used it because I like the Monero GUI wallet, but the screenshots I've seen look a lot like electrum

>> No.51381037

>>51380992
ah cool thanks, yea I also have the GUI wallet but takes some time to synch (as I don't open it very often) so perhaps that's a better choice

>> No.51381067

>>51380477
Don’t buy alts unless it’s a proper btc alt that isn’t bch

Yes I’m saying buy doge or ltc

>> No.51381187

>>51381067
I don't like doge as it is retarded and already have some LTC ^^

>> No.51381432

>>51381037
I also don't open mine very often. It syncs quickly enough though, because I run a full node on a server inside my LAN.

>> No.51381462 [DELETED] 

Not a begging post, just curious. Would someone please send me $2 worth of XMR? If so, I’ll post my wallet. I’m trying to experiment with something and see if I can make more than a $100 with what I’m about to do

>> No.51381505

>>51381462
Would you be able to provide more details, anon?

>> No.51381509 [DELETED] 

Shit never mind, that amount isn’t going to work. I never knew visa gift cards had a minimum buy at $10, what the fuck? Please disregard my last post

>> No.51381604 [DELETED] 

>>51381505
I was going to buy and flip an expired domain of a local business that can’t afford to lose it through Ionos (they allow for $1 domain purchases if you’re a new user); as much as I can legally but not too much where they’d consider asking for a udrp. From there, I’d pay back the crypto to the person who gave me some and double it.
>receive $10
>buy domain for $1 via ionos with gift card
>sell for $600 (for example)
>give anon $20 back
>have $570 left
I’ll do it with my own money I guess. I never knew gift cards were $10 minimum. I recall being able to buy something for $5 so I figured a $1 thing was doable

>> No.51381744

>>51381505
Still curious in your plan, if you're lurking anon

>> No.51381999

>>51380369
I don't have a bottle of that to compare, but going off of scent profiles I'm finding online they probably do not smell alike.

>pepper
>lavender (French)
>bergamot (very light, just noticeable)
>musk
>vetivergrass

gonna have to try the one you mentioned, though.

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>>51369216

>> No.51382824

>>51374603
Based

>> No.51383905

Is there a way to change an existing GUI wallet that is set to simple mode to advanced mode without making a new wallet?

>> No.51383953

>>51383905
>>51383905
https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/12624/change-wallet-fom-basic-to-advanced

always check google, fren.

>> No.51383963

>>51383953
Thank you sir

>> No.51384483

I will admit that monero chan is adorable

>> No.51384516
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51384516

>>51383953
I got you a meme for any future posts, anon

>> No.51385153

Are you more likely to get rewarded if you run a local node vs Remote node on P2P?

>> No.51385444

>>51385153
I don't think it matters, anon. Although p2pool expects you to run it on a system with a node on it. I'm running XMRig on another PC that connects to p2pool with a node on another machine on my LAN and I've had no issues

>> No.51386016

>>51385444
Okay gotcha thanks man

>> No.51386068

>>51386016
No problem anon.

Since I wasn't satisfied with my previous explanation, I have 1 PC always running a full node and p2pool. I have my main PC which is running XMRig in the background. XMRig connects to p2pool normally.

>> No.51386811

>>51384483
Monero chan may be adorable but Monero is outdated as there are no new features added overtime unlike some other in the privacy platform

>> No.51386884

>>51386811
Too many changes are a security risk. It's better for the developers to be cautious and thoroughly think through the cost benefit of their decisions. Monero devs are good about that I think. They have succeeded in doing what they intterfered to create

>> No.51386990

>>51386811
Anon, keeping the system maintained doesn't mean you bolt a shit ton of things to it. Having the necessary features without having a lot of unnecessary bulk is the right thing to do. As the saying goes, "Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away"

By adding a bunch of niche things to the network, you're adding unnecessary complication and increasing your attack surface. You wouldn't want a jet as your daily driver, and you wouldn't want a bloated crypto either.

>> No.51387082

>>51386884
>>51386990
I like your positivity. When I can I will try to buy 1 monero

>> No.51387113

>>51386811
Every time a new coin comes out, sell all your old coin and buy the new coin.

Does this sound like a good strategy? It's clear that being early is a big deal. Monero has all the privacy it needs. Nothing is more private that Monero. Other things are private-ish (possibly private enough for the perceived needs of some) while also adding other tricks, like smart contracts, or something faddish and ruinous, like proof of stake.

>> No.51387191

>>51387082
Remember to use proper OpSec when doing so, anon. I bought mine on Kraken several years ago, and I would've done it differently if I could've. I pay my taxes, of course, but I don't like the idea of being on a list of dudes that bought Monero at some point

>> No.51387537

>>51378200
>>51371358
>>51382642
why is the art in this general always really good? also how do i start "mining monero"?

>> No.51387670

>>51387537
1. Run a node on a computer
2. Run p2pool on that same computer
3. You can use the p2pool built-in miner on that computer and/or use XMRig on another computer and point it at the first

>> No.51387710
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51387710

>>51387537
>why is the art in this general always really good?
wdym anon

>> No.51387738
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51387738

>>51387710

>> No.51388137
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51388137

>>51387537
>>51387710
Because we're not poorfags and spend money on good artists (usually).

>> No.51388235
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51388235

>>51388137
Speaking of which, where can I commission art with XMR? I have ideas but lack talent, my art style looks more like serial killer sketches (pic related)

>> No.51388261

>>51388235
Before anyone asks, that's my hamplanet mother with my brother who's wearing a jacket

>> No.51388276

>>51388235
https://www.pixiv.net/en/
I recommend avoiding the tranny western artists and going for a Jap, Gook, or Chink. Gooks and Chinks are cheaper but the drawings all have a slightly different style depending on nationality of the artist. Western anime artists are all dogshit (IMO).

>> No.51388388
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51388388

>>51388235
>>51388276
For reference here's a couple commissions I did. The SEA artist did a full background which usually adds a lot to the cost, but still did it for 1/3rd the price of a relatively popular Japanese artist. However, I think the quality difference is fairly substantial. I usually do the commissions directly through the artist so I keep the rights, but if you do it via the pixiv request feature I believe they keep rights to everything by default.

>> No.51388607

>>51388388
Thank you, anon. I might do a commission of a friend of mine for her birthday

>> No.51388759

>>51385153
the remote node I use has gone down at random times, a local node wouldn't do that

>> No.51389162

>>51388235
There's also https://skeb.jp/ for making requests to twatter artists. They recently made their own shitty utility token to "allow circumventing censorshp by CC companies", but I don't think you can use it to pay for art on their platform yet.

>> No.51389339

>>51389162
>They recently made their own shitty utility token to "allow circumventing censorshp by CC companies"
Why use monero when you can create your own coin?
Smart

>> No.51389686

>>51389339
It's pretty retarded. I could somewhat understand if it was at least some kind of stable coin, but it isn't.

>> No.51390011

>>51389686
It's not retarded at all if you are looking for a cash grab.
It's exactly the same as the premined mobilecoin.
You introduce your own currency and can do what ever you want with it.
Or your own fiat if you are state for example.

>> No.51390207
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51390207

>>51376350
Do you have a very low hashrate ?
I yeald around 0.005 XMR every two weeks at around 2kh/s
And anyway I do it to support the network and to have a bit of change

>>51379606
BASED

>>51385153
no it will be the same reward-wise, but Monero chads run a local pruned or full Monero node.

>>51387537
see this post fren: >>51358010

>> No.51390291
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51390291

>>51369240
Based

>> No.51390387

>>51387191
Wait there’s a list ?? But why do ppl hate monero soo much

>> No.51390470

>>51390387
>why do ppl hate monero soo much
Because it works.

Top criminlas hate it beacuse it is a danger to their system

Fags and queers hate it, because they were breed to be subservient and abused, monero inhibits this, so their brain is like: the enemy of my enemy is my enemy...now govern me harder daddy.

Free people and >90 iq people love it

>> No.51390588
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51390588

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H5BqZod3Vs

>> No.51391532

>>51387537
the "Mining" link
>>51369240

>> No.51391581

>>51369523
all crypto assets are down from ath
what you talking dude

>> No.51392436

>>51374441
>Little known fact is that even if you try to buy a computer/laptop in cash at a bigboxstore, they'll usually want to get you to fill out a form with your info so that the government can trace back anything done with that MAC address to an actual person (similar to the FFL process for firearms, except no background check and it's not as explitic). CPUs aren't like that (yet).
What?
Mac addresses don't leave the physical/local layer. Your router communicates with the internet only using IP addresses. Unless I'm having a major brainfart right now; either you're extremely retarded and spouting nonsense, or I am.
Also it's extremely trivial to spoof a MAC address.
Also under normal operation the MAC address depends only on the network hardware. CPUs won't matter for this at all, unless you imagine a super-dystopian setting where the CPU execution is gated entirely to only run vendor-whitelisted programs and OSes and you can't actually do what you want with it. But in that case they can just add mandatory digital ID for using your computer in the first place, rather than bothering with any of that.

>> No.51392489
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51392489

>>51391581

First bubble?

>> No.51392655

>>51392489
crypto was bubling before. now its time to buy

>> No.51392732

>>51392436
>>51374441
IPv6 can leak your mac adress. turn off ip6

>> No.51393280

who's prepared for sub $50 monero within a year?

>> No.51393412
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51393412

>>51393280
>who's prepared for sub $50 monero within a year?

>> No.51393579

>>51376350
no the baseline consumption of your hw is the same. the more cores you utilize for that that better your profitability is. it will be a loss anyhow.

>> No.51393760

Just got my first XMR Monerchads, if I don't lose my job this'll be recurring for me!
Also I bought comic books with some of it, big fan of the privacy it offers

>> No.51393878
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51393878

>>51393760
>this'll be recurring for me!
Yes, today is Monero Monday.

>> No.51394032
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51394032

>>51393878
Based
Sadly I only get paid once a month but oh well

>> No.51394129
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51394129

>>51387191
Anon, as far as I'm aware if you're in the US there's no need to pay taxes for your XMR as long as all you did was *buy* not sure about withdrawing but it feels like it wouldn't be the case for there either.

>> No.51394461

>>51392732
Only if you use SLAAC. IPv6 is fine.

>> No.51395390

>>51394461
the ipv6 addressing scheme offends and pisses me off and that's why I don't use it. Simple as.

>> No.51396641

>>51395390
>>51394461
ipv6 privacy extension, enable it.

>> No.51397711

>>51394129
I'm aware, anon, but I have sold a few times. I paid my taxes on any profits I took because I'm a good noodle and had to do it through a CEX due to time constraints

>> No.51399401
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>> No.51400530
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51400530

are you anons buying because you sincerely believe in the project ideologically, or you're banking on it dethroning btc and just want to flip it for some nice gains, or some combination of both?

>> No.51400646 [DELETED] 

Who’s willing to throw an anon $10 worth of xmr to see if I can flip it and give you back $20?

>> No.51400853

>>51400530
Both for me. Bitcoin was meant to be an international, uncensorable currency. It fails at that and the community is slow moving in every way that matters. Monero excels in every way except adoption. I fully believe that XMR can surpass Bitcoin, and deserves to. I hodl to support my own future and talk about it with others because I believe in it

>> No.51400872

>>51400646
You again, anon? What exactly are you doing? I can help, but I'd like to know what the general idea is

>> No.51400971

>>51400872
I could’ve sworn you saw the post.

>>/biz/thread/S51369216#p51381604

It got deleted and rightfully so

>> No.51400972

>>51400530
Monero is the most functional cryptocurrency. If you want to see how suppressed it is, watch how rarely it gets brought up, even in high profile stories. There was a ransomware story where all the frontfacing stories left out the fact that Monero was the coin of choice, leaving only the tech stories reporting it.

https://www.techtarget.com/searchsecurity/news/252512142/Ransomware-actors-increasingly-demand-payment-in-Monero

If the fact that Monero is secure and anonymous breaks into the zeitgeist, the price will probably go up because people will buy a strong horse if they can.

>> No.51401020

>>51400971
How can I contact you more privately, anon?

>> No.51401044

>>51400646
>>51400971
I think you got deleted, which is good, as you are a beggar. However, there's no reason you shouldn't be able to get 10 dollars of monero your fucking self. Get cake wallet on your phone, or any other wallet that supports Monero (there's a million closed source offerings, like Exodus), or even just sync the fucking blockchain like you should with monerod and use monero-wallet-gui like a non-moron.

Then go use sideshift or fixedfloat or any of the webpages that will happily transform your bitcoin or whatever into monero in even small amounts. Then do your experiment, and you don't even have to "pay someone back".

Of course, this assumes you aren't just taking 10 dollars from several anons for the lulz. In which case, fuck you.

>> No.51401065

>>51387537
>why is the art in this general always really good?
because we actually care
it's not about profits
it's not about monero; it's about the spirit of what monero manifests. if the spirit of monero dies, crypto is dead to me, and many people feel the same.

>> No.51401072

>>51401044
>Get cake wallet on your phone
I did this

>Then go use sideshift or fixedfloat or any of the webpages that will happily transform your bitcoin or whatever into monero in even small amounts. Then do your experiment, and you don't even have to "pay someone back".
This I did not know of, thanks anon

>> No.51401088

>>51401044
I agree with you, anon. But I'd still like to help out an anon, even if it's likely a scam. It's not like I'm financially hurting, so I can spare $10

>> No.51401920
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51401920

>>51387537
same dude made this

>> No.51401923
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51401923

>>51401920
and this

>> No.51402333

>>51401923
>the zipper on her panties
Imagine getting your twat flaps caught

>> No.51402354

>>51402333
I trust in the tech

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>> No.51403202
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51403202

the only 3 viable holdings right now

>> No.51403312

is wownero pumping again

>> No.51405087
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51405087

>> No.51405573

is there a practical guide about getting paid with monero?
I'm especially curious how to verify that I got paid from a specific person.

I mean, I sell something and someone sends me monero, but how do I know it was that person? How does he tell me?

>> No.51405768
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51405768

>>51405573
>someone sends me monero, but how do I know it was that person?
The sender can proof it pretty easily with a transaction key but only if he wants.

https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/prove-payment.html

>> No.51405911

Nooo! How can they delist ZCash! I've been telling every monero baggie that they would be sanctioned and ZCash would reign supreme! Why didn't our compliance work? Zooko needs to install a backdoor right away so that ZCash can join the other compliant company coins in being listed on exchanges!

>> No.51406179

>>51405911
>>>51405614

what in the fuck is this faggot on about?

>> No.51406242

>>51405573
create a new subaddress for each payment, otherwise you can do >>51405768

>> No.51406313

No, you smelly kike, I will not KYC. You beady eyes fuck can't comb through my transactions, I have Monero. My wealth is stored in cyber space, safe from your oily rat hands.

I advise everyone to STOP using your bank accounts and start living off crypto. You can pay for almost everything (except for rent) using crypto gift cards.

Jews are scrambling to fight crypto with FATF and FinCen rules.

>> No.51406317

>>51406179
I think he means huobi, not kucoin

>> No.51406363

The banking Jew is a nosy fuck. They question where your monies come from. They can freeze your bank account. They can call the police to raid your home if they're suspicious of your monies. Avoid the banking Jews, use XMR.

>> No.51406433

Just got another mining payout
Feelsgoodman

>> No.51406555

>>51406313
>>51406363

Are you just the same person on two IP's? I've noticed that you often post replies of the same sentiment with mild delay.

>> No.51407428

>>51406555
I actually have 3 different IP’s. I’m trans btw

>> No.51409004

/xmr/ is dead

>> No.51409824

>>51409004
4chan is dead, free speech is dead, privacy is dead

>> No.51410093

>>51409824
Good.
Fuck this hecking antisemitism shithole.
Trans lives matter.
Black lives matter.
I'm gay btw.

>> No.51410193

>>51378002
this image makes me chuckle because it costs 25K usd in tx fees per week to sybil output space and own 95% of the outputs. this gives you a 80% success rate in inferring non decoy outputs and the glowies have been doing this attack for 2 years now yet no one even knows.
it is about as battle tested as a fisher price table.

>> No.51410352

>>51410193
You have come into this thread on literally a dozen occasions to peddle the same exact nonsense fud. Every time yous show up, you are made to look like a fool and then run off and hide for another few months. Let's just skip to the part where you fuck off and finish shitting up the thread.

>> No.51411066
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51411066

>>51410193
>own 95% of the outputs

Good God, you're hilarious!

>> No.51411425

>>51410193
I could write several paragraphs on why that wouldn't cost just 25k, but instead I encourage you to look up the recent changes to the fee market, and its reasons.
>>51410093
>He doesn't understand

>> No.51412439

>>51369216
>Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!
by default, monero has numerous privacy features which is more reason i keep stacking more, and Sylo that has an end to end encrypted confidential messaging app which can only be accessed by people who have permission to do so.

>> No.51413016

>>51411066
>10 decoys
now imagine on v16

>> No.51414980

>>51401920
ToT

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>>51413016

yeah, according to Seth you'd now need exclusive control over something like 95% of ALL outputs to deduce just 1% of arbitrary rings.

Now imagine what happens when Seraphis boosts the ringsize to 128. Game over, man.

In any case, ring signatures aren't a permanent solution, we'll end up using zk-STARKs or whatever.

>> No.51415154

>>51415070
question is can monero do zk rollups or not? because without second and third layers this shit is not gonna scale.

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>>51415154
We haven't even had our big blocks needed/activated. Layer two and three should be possible for Monero imho.

>> No.51415808
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51415808

>>51415154
>can monero do zk rollups or not
nope. XMR is the currency of the shadow economy. Uber fast stuff will be centralized. CBDCs are what you seek. Can't you imagine how our betters wold fel if the "number go up" elites would see their graphs go down? Have some sympathy for the WEF you heartless basterd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgnClrx8N2k

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51416046

>>51415711
>e haven't even had our big blocks needed/activated
checked, and we did during the fork. made some excitement. it is also quite reactionary, which makes bad actors pay when an attack is attempted.

>> No.51416426

>>51412439
>can only be accessed by people who have permission
Sounds counterintuitive, crypto is meant to be permissionless. Atleast with Session you don't need that to message anons.

>> No.51416560

>>51415808
what's stopping monero from making it's own payment channels connecting fedi-mints (markets) which are chaumian mints so pretty damn private?

cause that's roughly how bitcoin is about to scale to billions of users.

you don't want to get left behind do you?

>> No.51416750

>>51415808
>XMRDK
You keep your futa nonsense away from Monerochan!

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>>51416750
Ya don't lewd the dragon loli and ya don't lewd the Monero-chan, goddammit

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>>51416560

Fedimints aren't trustless. So no thanks.

>> No.51418697
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51418697

the bags are big and they keep getting bigger

>> No.51419432

>XMR still shitting the bed with BTC despite no reason to
I THOUGHT WE WERE DECOUPLED

>> No.51419516

when're we getting rich lads

>> No.51419722

>>51419432
The markets are finicky and manipulated. XMR is not immune to this. It's the sad truth.

>> No.51419803

Is this the dip guys? Is now the time to buy?

>> No.51420007

>>51419432
check the btc monero chart this year.

>> No.51420272

>>51416560
there is nothing prohibiting monero from using payment channels, other than that it's a retarded idea.

Bitcoin will not scale to billions.

>> No.51420298

>>51416560
The PATRIOT act doesn't allow anonymous payment networks in the clear-economy in the US.

>> No.51420417

>>51420298
>what is physical cash

>> No.51420445

>>51420417
>What is payment processing
Okay, convince all your customers to mail you cash to purchase your good/service.

>> No.51420618
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51420618

>>51387537
What is the relation between CPU speed and mining efficiency? Is xmr designed to mine unprofitably? Was planning on getting at least one good computer in my life. XMR calculators want to know hashrate, but CPU and GPU speeds appear to produce downy tier productivity. Feeling quite demotivated. The CPU I wanted is "2nd Gen Intel Xeon Gold 6238" w/ 22 cores, there are two of these. Will I always be poor?

>> No.51420676

>>51415808
USDC is not a CBDC

MONERO IS A CULT

> video related
https://youtu.be/EBK5aKOr2Fw

>> No.51420726

>>51420676
XMR lacks several of the indicators for a cult, namely there's no secret purchaseable knowledge, and no leader.

>> No.51420978

>>51420618
I don't have the answers to all of your questions, but it's generally considered unprofitable to mine XMR unless your electricity is free. Also, don't use your GPU for XMR because that's a lot of strain for little gain. If you're worried about profits, try mining on Monero Ocean; they mine altcoins and payout in XMR. The only reason I'm making a profit off it is because I'm running it in a barracks building
>one of the few perks of active duty military service

>> No.51421019

>>51420978
For clarification, I used to get about $2.50-$3.00 a day on MO with a Ryzen 7 3800X and Nvidia 2070 Super on Windows 10. I swapped to p2pool so I could support the network, now I'm getting about $0.50 a day with just the Ryzen 7.

>> No.51421042

>>51421019
Forgot to mention I'm also mining on p2pool with a Ryzen 5, 10 of 12 threads with p2pool's built-in miner

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51421205

>>51420978
Thx, anon. I have affordable electricity, so far. The contrast between looking at new processors and the results on the XMR mining calculator is really all that irritates. On the one hand there is a common position that buying to hodl is somewhat greasy, while at the same time not operating at a loss is also. XMR is what I thought BTC would be before it got judaized. Even then, it was riddled with loss pitfalls of all sorts and it was easy to get burned. Regulation and KYC are similarly perilous so I really only end up admiring the technical/cryptologic posibility of a money that avoids the oligarchic system.

>> No.51421535

>>51420298
so are you telling me tens of thousands of americans are not running lightning nodes right now?
if you are not doing it in a way of business you are largely exempt.

>> No.51421765

https://twitter.com/mutatrum/status/1569685146546147339
oof

>> No.51421950
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51421950

>>51416560
lightning was dreamt up to deal with the still not fixed miner reward issue that Monero fixed back in late 2014 with tail emissions. Our currency hasn't crashed as a result, and IMHO, we are sufficiently hashed for our market cap. As far as TPS, our variable block size works just fine. There are a shit ton of variables coming in this decade. That will be dealt with when it is needed. The roadmap for XMR is Seraphis / Jamtis. Nothing else. Zk-stark and other shit will be looked at once SJ is live.

>> No.51421987

>>51421950
that's retarded lightning has nothing to do with miner reward issues. it's a tps scaling method and a way to deliver instant payments for point of sale terminals.

lightning doesn't really have a theoretical tps limit but a practical of few thousand tps surely exists for now.

>> No.51422005

>>51421950
>The roadmap for XMR is Seraphis / Jamtis. Nothing else.
it's garbage then. enjoy missing out on the next bull too!

>> No.51422205
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51422205

>>51422005
>missing out on the next bull
he doesn't understand correlation.

>> No.51422316

>>51421042
use xmrig and connect to p2pool on localhost
p2pool's builtin miner is pretty terrible

>> No.51422557
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51422557

>>51421987
lightning is chiefly limited by your ability to open and close channels with enough connections.

>>51421042
I concur with >>51422316, what is ur hashrate? Sounds like you should be getting more shares anon. Also read https://xmrig.com/docs/miner/randomx-optimization-guide remember to do msr hack.

>> No.51422665

>>51422316
>>51422557
Yeah, I've been meaning to do that but it's not a high priority. The system it's running on is a server I built for doing things like hosting backups and running random services for family/friends (currently working on NextCloud), so the built-in miner was the easiest option since it's just 1 arg that I can slap on. I've already got XMRig compiled for basically everything it can run on, so I might make the transition tomorrow if I have time

>> No.51422817

>>51400972
Is it a good idea for the price to go up and what can we do to get it booming

>> No.51423004

>>51422817
There's nothing really inherently wrong with the price going up, but it would cause instability and you'd see more hodlers. It's better that we have organic growth and adoption than attract moonfags who only wish to line their pockets, so trying to spur the price upwards is a bad idea.

>> No.51423032

>>51422817
>>51423004
Just look at Bitcoin, for example. When it blew up, it went pretty fuckin high. Now, it's fallen to a much lower point and probably left a bad taste in the mouths of many. We don't want Monero to be considered a pump and dump coin, we want it to be a currency that respects privacy.

>> No.51423528

>>51420676
The video is good (but stolen) and not relevant to our discussion at all.

Stop shilling stable coin scams you fucking dweeb.

>> No.51424021

>>51423032
Exactly. GTFO mooners, go buy elon shiba rocket v200.152

>> No.51424688

>>51421765
Nice namedrop for XMR. Always check the signatures of wallet software, never relax. That hacker shouldn't have relaxed either lmao.
>>51418697
Thanks for the big bags.

>> No.51424845

>>51369509
can you add Archetyp Market to the list? (archetyp.cc)

>> No.51425339

>>51421765
I'm curious about how he fucked up. They said they caught him because of the Bitcoin transactions, but I'm curious how they related him to whatever address he was using for Bisq. Surely he wasn't dumb enough to use an address that he'd used on a KYC. Might've been poor spending after he had the cash in hand that raised a red flag

>> No.51426688

>>51422205
xmr is correlating with depreciating assets.

>> No.51426709

>>51422557
>lightning is chiefly limited by your ability to open and close channels with enough connections.
not really. if you read my post bitcoin scaling is now reliant on solutions like fedimint that use chaumian mints that are lightning connected. so the users of the mint can spend via lightning seamlessly without ever opening channels and have good sender and receiver privacy as well as pretty much feeless private transactions inside the mint.

in such a world people managing their own channels must be richfag hobbyists.

most richfags will also operate fedimints if for noone else their clan/family. so there is that.

>> No.51426717

>>51425339
he may have fucked up, or maybe monero is not nearly as untraceable as people think.

>> No.51426745

>>51369216
Fuck monero. Anything actively shilled on biz is a fucking scam with zero return

>> No.51426931

>>51426745
>return
Jew spotted.

>> No.51426964
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51426964

>>51426717
They literally said it was because of Bitcoin in the post. He fucked up at some point getting it into Monero, or made some high value purchases that got eyes on him and let them connect dots.

>>51426745
See
>>51426931

>> No.51427000

>>51426964
See context of >>51426745
and rethink why >>51426931 was posted

then regret >>51426964
and erase it.

Jews are still shit and deserve to be gassed, no matter if some tards IP adress got grabbed while he was transfering on the BTC blockchain.

>> No.51427057
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51427057

>>51427000
Yes, I understand what >>51426745 was saying. Point is I don't care about his opinions and wanted to call someone a kike, so I did. I won't be erasing anything

>> No.51427296

>>51427057
ok, i got it wrong there. I thought it was directed against my anti jew comment.
Sorry.

>> No.51427354
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51427354

>>51369216

>> No.51427363

>>51425339
>Surely he wasn't dumb enough to use an address that he'd used on a KYC
That's what the Bitfinex hackers did IIRC. People are a lot dumber than you would expect.

>> No.51427405

>>51427296
No problem, anon. Glad we got that sorted.

>> No.51429017

>>51427363
KuCoin is good for non kyc stuff right?

>> No.51429026

>>51426964

lol BTC strikes again

>> No.51429181
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51429181

>>51426688

>> No.51429197

>>51429181
To the MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

>> No.51429205

>>51426709
chaumian cash = token not needed

>> No.51429255

>>51429197
to the MOooON (relative to BTC)

>> No.51431639
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51431639

i have very little disk space, so i'd like to access a remote node. any suggs?

>> No.51431988

>>51431639
xmr.fail is usually the place to go but it's not loading for me at the moment.
Here's some of the RPC onion nodes I have saved

http://om2vhctun62vu5ghw4z5hhby4oh22hj6hosqvgatyhvjsxwodfvk47id.onion:18081
http://poysibicsj73uhw7sjrv3fyopoyulrns4nlr5amyqdtafkqzlocd4qad.onion:18081
http://vr7crbzr34bromykcqsgkhggb43eugaf3wxau5yfvaceshgvwfzf5lyd.onion:18081
http://pztuze6t5vpj7pzawezgx2vca6hycth5bbxdrr4bangoqucqw7m4hnyd.onion:18081
http://cbfrpgbmlzfuj2vroprrnidjo4x7xeuhwrar4gvw2ivsvdzfmthmqbid.onion:18081
http://axtkarghpvfajpr46bg5l3gnk4dyib2q7cw2de6j6fizyedwr2tssead.onion:18081
http://ip4zpbps7unk6xhlanqtw24f75akfbl3upeckfjqjks7ftfnk4i73oid.onion:18081
http://ncbkcouzbqzcskr3dy26bvgzztpt7ywtjd2ly2bpv5c5zfxoht7gthad.onion:18081
http://5nvd6jbefgto3u74nzzdkcsbqgxyzrkk7bz5qupsdqg4gbuj5valiaqd.onion:18081
http://ie5zso6gsvpxuqlr5cajyfwd4rbowdyux5ida4ke55kx56lmkc2cucid.onion:18081
http://melo7jwjspngus3xhbt5kxeqc4njhokyvh55jfmehplglgmb7a6rb6yd.onion:18081
http://dewittewowwnvmn6ooa6c5ai77kh2zps4ex2a5gcxi5bt5odma4oz7id.onion:18081
http://freedom655xbh6y22yi7u4p74ykqz3jr4kbxb6ohrohp5mi6fbm433yd.onion:18081
http://wirey6onffw2jqfjz2fv4qakyqvvpad2avkj4i22vogrbj2boxaszuqd.onion:18082
http://mxcd4577fldb3ppzy7obmmhnu3tf57gbcbd4qhwr2kxyjj2qi3dnbfqd.onion:18081
http://dvirnr6squ4k5inagl6cmo4oikclm4fotmsicquefqutpyzzbumet3yd.onion:18081
http://prdgwbrhxrqvzowotw2r7ylw7liqld4hszawnbc2slm3i5fsyr7pp7ad.onion:18081
http://dtrnd4in2igrtfx2c45ghf2drns3doddmcsfy6b5gjw5iinukd33slqd.onion:18081
http://moneroxmrxw44lku6qniyarpwgznpcwml4drq7vb24ppatlcg4kmxpqd.onion:18081
http://4egylyolrzsk6rskorqvocipdo4tqqoyzxnplbjorns7issmgpoxvtyd.onion:18081
http://s2islulw7kczniabor7tlqthpwpulnslkvmzy756h6775xwoyetb2pad.onion:18081
http://k6jq22taun2yeenrm3omybyi4uiqc7ksyphzlu5xb2fnuwncxj2fnkad.onion:18081

(1/2)

>> No.51432013

>>51431988
(2/2)
http://majnrs7gc37czxhk4blpkwklhognpgcdknaorrvzlh7iyx67lahernid.onion:18081
http://5akilsd4pgxsie7vigrxm37md6jc3xgjiimzgfbt7tjxazbxy37hrlyd.onion:18081
http://ozeavjybjbxbvmfcpxzjcn4zklbgohjwwndzenjt44pypvx6jisy74id.onion:18081
http://kowalskiiixfgrrzea6sctaols7zdco2w6qrpjfm5einstnbys5wc4ad.onion:18081
http://mexymskdcpunttj3kozziuw62aryumjggulew2kafk7rmvkmegrrgfyd.onion:18081
http://r4srwnsmqzp6xiyhnb6vvrfpxime26dsueqkatfe2irunwn7ied6lzyd.onion:18081
http://z3denj4xaipjcljghwl4r76b5adj4qmmq7lwf4asoodqydka3wdr4myd.onion:18081
http://hashvaultsvg2rinvxz7kos77hdfm6zrd5yco3tx2yh2linsmusfwyad.onion:18081
http://xmrnodesarnt4w35aqmu66aart3o324yw6qbnv6pglpof6uqaydzk5id.onion:18081
http://mum3zg2hp5wx6qv4dnv2ax76wgwuw4wipdt6krzd76b65pbklxftvgqd.onion:18081
http://6dsdenp6vjkvqzy4wzsnzn6wixkdzihx3khiumyzieauxuxslmcaeiad.onion:18081


and as far as some non-onion RPC nodes, cakewallets nodes are fast as fuck

xmr-node.cakewallet.com:18081
xmr-node-eu.cakewallet.com:18081
xmr-node-usa-east.cakewallet.com:18081

>> No.51432130

>>51431639
Use one that is associated with a big mining pool as they have a lot of bandwidth, like supportxmr (node.supportxmr.com) or others.

Using a remote node is really just for mobile wallets. If you don't have enough storage for a full node, try running a pruned node.

>> No.51432287

>>51431988
wow I am a retard. It's monero.fail not xmr.fail

tons of nodes there, any kind you can think of.

>> No.51432337
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51432337

>>51431988
>>51432013
thanks, i'll pick one of these
>>51432130
how do you run a pruned node? i'm just seeing local node and remote node as choices in the gui wallet

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51432604

>>51380953
Got get your ass some fucking sense dickhead and stop posting some shitty quotes, like I can now shop book my flight hotel accommodation and even buy my dream home and pay in crypto using any of the web3 payment services it's such a wet pussy experience anon.

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51432638

>>51432604

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51432814

>>51387082
Wtf is this sound like some dirty asian pussy,web3payments service has been so freaky sexy as the provider leader for realestate industry, over 4000 properties are now available to be bought with crypto using any of the web3 payment technology

>> No.51432944

>>51432638
Wtf is wrong with BTC EGLD and all this shit how can I get rich hold that token

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51433367

>>51432944
You such a horn dick ass you like it in your bag when it's juicy the reverse staking is coming
combine with the fact that the supply is fully circulating 10% team tokens locked for 5 years with deflationary tokenomics. might make your ass rich.

>> No.51433967
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51433967

What's the state of XMR adoption?
Would it be viable to fund a creative project like a comic book or indie game with XMR instead of Kickstarter?

>> No.51434550

i finally hit 20 xmr.
what are the stacks?
im a monero newfag

>> No.51434597
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51434597

>>51424845
>can you add Archetyp Market to the list? (archetyp.cc)

Archetype isn't a Monero-only market

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51434851

>>51434550
greetings newfag. a handy chart to assist.

>> No.51435616

>>51434851
XX is 20 or any 2 numbers beyond the sui?

>> No.51436059
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51436059

>>51434550

>> No.51437546
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51437546

>> No.51437549
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51437549

Monero bros… I wanna mine. Bad. Not just a little bit. A lot. Thing is I’m poor as fuck and kind of a retard with tech. Are mining contracts a bad way to get foot in the door? Problem is… only contracts they got are shitcoins. Which probably isn’t too big of a deal if I can just swap it all for monero on local monero. Pic related seems to be the only reputable mining contract seller they got cheap as fuck energy where their based apparently.

>> No.51438497

>>51432337
>how do you run a pruned node? i'm just seeing local node and remote node as choices in the gui wallet
Check out this thread on SE
https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/11454/how-do-i-utilize-blockchain-pruning-in-the-gui-monero-wallet-gui
It basically boils down to adding --prune-blockchain to the settings

>> No.51438531

>>51435616
Yes, but I'd aim for at least 30+. Remember to never disclose how much you hold

>> No.51438552

>>51437549
Anon, check out Monero Ocean. You'll be mining shitcoins and getting paid in XMR, so you're golden as long as you know how to use XMRig (they have a custom one for their pool)

>> No.51438568

>>51438531
How come?

>> No.51438604

>>51438568
Just my guesstimate on what you'd want. I'm not going to disclose how much I have, but it's certainly more than 30

>> No.51438660

>>51438568
>>51438604
Or do you mean why not disclose how much you have? It's just considered bad practice, although it really doesn't matter if you're not a criminal (since feds shouldn't be scouring your posts for evidence) or something. I got all of mine on Kraken, for example, so the feds would already know how much I have unless I lost the private key and went to 0.

>> No.51439167

>>51438660
i see.
i got mine from kucoin

>> No.51439186
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51439186

>>51435616

>> No.51439212

Is it dumb to use monero as my "safe" storage for wealth? Like I take my profits from other shitcoins and put it away into monero for long term storage?

>> No.51439271
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51439271

>>51439212
I don't think so. There is an inflation rate, which protects the coins. Also, lost coins are a thing as some hodlers are single, and set themselves up to allow the coins to be lost upon death, rather than fedbois getting them. It all smooths out then. see https://p2pool.io/tail.html for the current rate.
t. xmr hodler, comfiest hodl

>> No.51439282

>>51439271
Thanks anon.

>> No.51439295

>>51439212
You should be fine as long as it's not money you absolutely need. I've considered starting to keep a near equal value of Monero with my checking account, but that's because I have a retirement plan and my paychecks are guaranteed (the Army can't/won't "fire" you unless you're an incredible piece of shit or horribly maimed in a way that you won't recover from)

>> No.51439318

>>51439271
You just reminded me that I need to create a dead man's switch to send my XMR to my only friend in the event of my demise. Especially important, I need to stop putting it off

>> No.51439512
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51439512

>>51439318
I know that feather wallet can do signed offline transactions. I figure the CLI wallet can as well. Offline sign the hodllode for the deadman switch to broadcast when needed. Nobody else can rug the TX if the deadman is on a VPS. The worst would be the VPS is deleted before the switch engaged, and the coins are lost into monerochan's locker. One would need to delete and rebuild the offline signed every so often as new coins into the wallet wouldn't be part of the prior TX. I have crotchlings, so I cold steel for them.

>> No.51439550
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51439550

Is Ledger better than Trezor as far as Monero is concerned?

>> No.51439643

>>51439512
I was actually going to do it in Python via RPC commands to the wallet so I could just make it send the maximum available instead of having to keep an up to date transaction for broadcasting (I do use my wallet occasionally). I've got all the stuff I need to do it, just never actually started the project.

>> No.51439674

>>51439512
>>51439643
However, I do like your idea because that means nobody else could forge the transaction. Worst they could do is send it early, as opposed to fuck with the switch and change the output address.

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51440032

>>51439643
>>51439674
I make mention of it as it can be part of a churn operation. My current habit is to churn quarterly and after hard forks. If a wallet file becomes corrupt and I have to restore from seed, I never have to go back farther than three months. After Seraphis and light wallet service, I may just do every fork.

>> No.51440072
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51440072

>>51439550
I like my trez T. I do use a BIP39 offset though, and the T does have a swiping menu to enter that in if desired.

>> No.51440187

>>51440032
You're right, anon. I'll have to weigh the pros and cons of each approach and take a better look at my situation to determine the best course of action, but I don't want to spend some XMR, die, then have the transaction bounce when the switch activates. I also don't want to host my wallet on a remote machine though, so I will probably end up copying you

>> No.51440487
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51440487

>>51440187
yeah. that is the trouble with an offline signed tx. the honest actor would need to do the needful and freeze the involved coin to prevent a double spend. Though my hodlode is on a trez, I still use a soft wallet for donating and small spends. If my box got rugged, they wouldn't get much. better to lose folding cash than the family jewels.
If I were to deadman the hodlode, I would send my DCA to my soft wallet. Then send round numbered xmr to the hodlode wallet. The dust or extra needed stays in the soft wallet for spending cash. when time to churn the hodllode, put it all in one tx. Then offline sign that. get the file to the deadman, overwriting the prior. the worst case is that 3 montths of DCA is lost to monerochan, with the majority getting broadcast to your friend. Win, win the way I see, as lost coin calms the crab.

>> No.51440624

>>51440487
It'd be nice if I could just encrypt the seed with his PGP key and send that but I already know he'd probably lose his key anyway. I don't think he's ever kept a key for longer than half a year

>> No.51440641

>>51433967
> What's the state of XMR adoption?
Growing steadily, but still pretty bad outside of the tech scene. I go to developer blogs or websites and almost everyone has an XMR donation address or something posted, but no one outside of tech community uses it. There's another chunk of the tech sphere which is strongly opposed to all crypto stuff.

Crowdfunding is basically infeasible atm unless you are doing something related to crypto or tech.

>> No.51440664
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51440664

>>51440624
heh. the same could happen his seed phrase. oh well, the crab is fed more then :)

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51440717

>>51440641
I spend a lot of my time on /k/ and I've been trying to find ways to organically introduce them to XMR, but a lot of them are also strongly against XMR for some reason. Not because of their model, but because they're a cryptocurrency. I'm thinking that I'll just have to start stalking the patch threads and commission pic related to appeal to them.

>>51440664
Oddly enough, he does alright with crypto seeds. He's just super incompetent with PGP keys, and I think it's just because he's being lazy and doesn't care if I have to replace his PGP key every goddamn week. He's only lost his seed once, and that was because he wrote it down and his alcoholic dad gutted his room. He was in between devices at the time and hadn't transfered it over. I think it was around 0.2 BTC, so ouch.

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51440810

>>51440717
>but a lot of them are also strongly against XMR for some reason
/k/ users are probably goldbugs. But yeah that sounds cool

>> No.51440911
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51440911

i hope you guys enjoy my autism

>> No.51440930
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51440930

>>51440911

>> No.51440948
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51440948

>>51440930
commissioned for 1 XMR a while back
might do another since my ERG bags have pumped

>> No.51441037

>>51434597
Check your sources bro, Archetyp IS a Monero-only Market.

>> No.51441074
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51441074

>>51440810
kommandos might be goldbugs. I have no problem with PMs, I just see the value in intangible assets like crypto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHwlPaTetyo
vidrel is of a guy that died, was anti gov, and hodled 7 million (in 2012) gold coin. Worth more in numismatic though. If there is no generational wealth to be done, better to let it go, versus fedbois rolling off with your gold. Picrel is their facial expression after seizing all that gold, knowing how you felt about them.
>>51440717
Mental outlaw will store his seeds in keepass, then back keepass up into two thumbdrives. He also made mention of a 20 character password. I assume he stores one at work, and another with a friend or family. updating them every so often as needed. If more drives are needed, they are pretty cheap. That might be good for your friend.

>> No.51441121

>>51441037
>Check your sources bro, Archetyp IS a Monero-only Market.

I know it started out as Monero-only but last time I checked they were accepting other cryptos as well.

>> No.51441184

>>51441121
Thats true, but they decided to go back to Monero only.

>> No.51441254
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51441254

>>51441184

Well if that's truly the case then they'll get added to the list.

>> No.51441323

>>51441254
thanks monero chad

>> No.51441350

>>51441074
>Mental outlaw will store his seeds in keepass, then back keepass up into two thumbdrives. He also made mention of a 20 character password. I assume he stores one at work, and another with a friend or family. updating them every so often as needed. If more drives are needed, they are pretty cheap. That might be good for your friend.
Yeah, we've been over it before. He's taken to having multiple drives with Tails installed and using those to save his seeds, but he still consistently loses PGP keys somehow. Personally I use KeePass and have an encrypted backup synced to my NAS and Desktop from mobile. I do need to strengthen my password for KeePass though, since it's sub-20 characters

>> No.51441979

>>51441350
I have my main seed stored in keepass and backed up in several thumb drives but part of the seed is stored only in my head
that's for my long term storage anyway. i also have a hot wallet which holds only a few xmr so is low risk if hacked

>> No.51442015
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51442015

Pls redpill me a bit on p2p xmr<->fiat/giftcard exchanging

What is your favorite, what is most convenient, how do you get the best rates, etc

Follow: the same but with btc/fiat/cards, and btc/xmr exchanging.

Thanks gents

>> No.51442096

>>51442015
Try Allark, accepts Monero, tons of cards.

>> No.51442109

>>51442096
Nvm, didn't see you wanted p2p.

>> No.51442239

>>51369216
Just now deciding to hop on the crypto game and I chose monero because I wanted a secure place to hold my money other than a bank. How likely is it that I can get away with tax fraud?

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>>51442109
I'll take other recs too, thanks fren.

>> No.51442434

>>51442239
Dunno but do it anyway

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>>51442239
pay your taxes goy

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>>51442239
>a secure place to hold my money other than a bank.
good thinking. your keys, your coin.
>How likely is it that I can get away with tax fraud?
depends on opsec, which xmr helps with.

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>>51437546
lol love this

>> No.51442959

eth gonna melt real quick

>> No.51443114

>>51440911
>>51440930
>>51440948
i can save her

>> No.51443450

>>51440487
>>51371358
who is this artist

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>>51392436
Ok, let's do some simple logic:
>be government
>threat to your tax revenue comes along (bitcoin)
>you have spy agencies, secret police, etc. to enforce your will
>these spy agencies have already worked with Intel, AMD, etc. to insert backdoors into hardware such as CPUs (IME, etc.)
>A MAC address is a semi-unique, unchangeable address burnt into all NIC hardware (you can spoof it at the software level) in computers. The CPU knows what this is.
>you already strong-arm OEMs & other vendors to do your bidding (1)
>you already compel banks, vendors, etc. to hand over purchase data (2)
Why wouldn't you use these hardware backdoors in CPUs or in the OS to forward MAC address info tagging everything else that's already being hoovered up by the NSA (literally everything) and then cross-reference that data with purchase records? (3) You also work with ISPs to link IP addresses to individuals, but that becomes more difficult if they're obfuscating it through multiple VPNs/proxies.
>1
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/05/photos-of-an-nsa-upgrade-factory-show-cisco-router-getting-implant/
>2
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-13/uncle-sam-wants-a-piece-of-your-side-hustle-in-irs-crackdown
>3
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4408020-Pages-From-OAKSTAR-Weekly-2013-03-29
https://theintercept.com/2018/03/20/the-nsa-worked-to-track-down-bitcoin-users-snowden-documents-reveal/

>> No.51443591

>>51443535
My machines have multiple MAC addresses. Every machine can broadcast a different MAC address. There's no way to be sure who has what MAC address because very ethernet card comes with one, it never leaves the house, and you can change it whenever you want.

The computer-paranoid posters seem to confuse "there's probably a backdoor to screw with enemy data centers during a war" with "everything is broken and there's an entire river of surveillance data flowing constantly and somehow no one has ever found it".

Honestly, whomever told you about MAC addresses did you a grave disservice. You care about your MAC address being used to identify you in two cases- your phone is going places around a mall (and this was a big scandal like 10 years ago, and Apple fixed it, and then Google did later), or you are bringing your laptop to like a starbucks and don't want it to log your MAC so you spoof it manually.

It doesn't go over the fucking internet.

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>>51443450
different artists. https://www.monerochan.art/
scroll to the bottom for links to the originals (naokimineta026 & HIDE)

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>>51443629
thanks anon, i see pug thieu of flesh and blood fame is there too, good shit

>> No.51443748

>>51443732
phu thieu*

>> No.51443784

>>51443591
>I built all my computers with multiple NICs unlike 99% of people who just buy one from a big box store, therefore dragnet surveillance isn't done. I also don't know the meaning of "the exception proves the rule".
>"everything is broken and there's an entire river of surveillance data flowing constantly and somehow no one has ever found it".
That's literally what the snowden leaks were all about. And still you shills/retards try to deny it.

>> No.51444047

>>51439550
i also have a trezor model t. don't really have any complaints.

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>>51444047

So from what I understand even an infected computer can't steal the private keys, right?

>> No.51445804

>>51445686
humans are the weakest part of security. you should always confirm that the account you send funds to and the amount is correct. when i sign transactions with my trezor details of the tx are always shown on the display of it and yeah private keys are stored and transactions signed on the device itself. in other words, funds are safu as long as you keep the seed phrase for trezor itself and secret password for the subwallet secure. as long as you verify tx details on the device you should be secure. i have not been btfo yet.

>> No.51445839

sers will this coin ever move? best stablecoin I've ever seen.

>> No.51446052

>>51445839
With time, yes. Organic growth beats the hell out of moonfags

>> No.51446058

>>51446052
I have 3 digits XMR, will I be rich or is that a sui stack? be straight with me

>> No.51446084

>>51446058
Check earlier in the thread, you should be in the make it stack

>> No.51446112

>>51446058
Found it for you
>>51439186

>> No.51446168

>>51446112
thanks.
Do you anons think Monero as a whole would be ready to decrease the fixed 0.6 XMR/block if like XMR were to stabilize above $10k in the future?

>> No.51446238

>>51446168
I'm not a professional so I won't pretend that I know what I'm talking about, but here are my thoughts.
If/when XMR got to a point where it was worth $10k, we can assume it's going to have a larger number of transactions taking place. The system is designed so that the blocks are dynamically sized, but exceeding the standard size causes a penalty and takes from the 0.6XMR reward. I think it should be left alone unless we see a problem stem from it.

>> No.51446294

>>51446168
0.6 XMR per block already gives it an extremely low inflation rate (0.8% yearly inflation rate right now even assuming zero lost coins). I doubt it would ever be a subject brought up to change either direction.

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>>51439212
>Is it dumb to use monero as my "safe" storage for wealth? Like I take my profits from other shitcoins and put it away into monero for long term storage?
I do that with my government national shitcoins, when I receive my salary.

>> No.51447426

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TewhGZWryg

>> No.51448286

Please don't buy 0xMonero

>> No.51448715

>>51443784
>That's literally what the snowden leaks were all about. And still you shills/retards try to deny it.

That is not even remotely what those leaks were about. Before then, the default assumption was that internet data that you transmitted was either too hard to be understood as individual data or not worth grabbing as bulk, and further the assumption was that no one had the resources to go and slurp up all the data, put it in one place, and make it queryable. If you claimed that some government was doing that, it would be assumed that what you claimed was physically and technically possible, but that you were paranoid for assuming it was actually happening in secret. So suddenly we found out that such a thing was not paranoid, and that everything you transmit was being kept at LEAST as "envelope data", and that there was in fact a surveillance apparatus to slurp most of everything that went on the wires. We also learned that no one would campaign on minimizing, regulating, or even going fully public with the details, and that lying about it to Congress just months prior had no penalties. But nothing implied or stated that there was a secret data stream, or any manner of embedding something unique per machine, or per CPU, or even per network device. When you plug a machine into the internet, it begins doing stuff that tells you a lot about the box right away? Does it make the same electronic poop that all Windows boxes make, in which case Microsoft will have tons of data connected to it, or does it do something much sparser like a Linux box? Oh did it go try some NTP request to a red hat machine? Ok, it's probably fedora. Did it go make a secure connectionto the Linux Mint update servers and then download a gig of something? No leak ever implied that THIS type of data was being collected, but THIS is the type of noise your machine makes that is identifiable in some fashion. Not some fiction about a MAC.

>> No.51448985

>>51446168
Why? The reward is relative to the network, not to USD.
If the network is worth more then you need more miners to continue securing it, so you want the miner reward to also be worth more. Simple as. It makes zero sense if the network becomes worth a lot but you try to keep the miner reward value the same. It's gotta be proportional.

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>>51448286

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>> No.51452279

LN + CoinJoin kills this shitcoin.

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>>51452279
>LN + CoinJoin kills this shitcoin.

First time?

>> No.51452348

>>51452307

Cope harder.

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>>51452348

How about you go tell the DNM admins that hang out on Dread all about how awesome LN + CoinJoin is?

>> No.51452441

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>> No.51452468

>>51452279
LN
>https://blog.chainalysis.com/reports/lightning-network-support/
Inherently flawed as the routing requires the knowledge of where to route to. Not to mention that 5 nodes own tens of thousands of channels on the network, most just download the app, and open up a channel with their Wallet's LN node.
CoinJoin:
>https://news.bitcoin.com/wasabi-wallet-to-begin-censoring-coinjoin-transactions/
>https://old.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/syw2bs/wasabi_wallets_coinjoin_feature_has_been_cracked/
CoinJoin is a meme at this point and people who actually care use Samurai that is effectively a weaker version of the ring signatures on Monero.

>> No.51452520

monero is being removed from centralized exchanges, censored. monero can't keep relying on centralized exchanges and desperately needs to get on decentralized ones even if they have to make their own fucking exchange. bisq is complicated i can't figure, that's a me problem, but it's not just a me problem. i'm saying this not to fud but out of real concern for the long term viability of a very important coin. the lack of decentralized access is the achilles heal of monero.

>> No.51452560

>>51452520
>bisq is complicated i can't figure
can't figure it out
ok i probably could if i put more effort into it. and its the only decentralized on ramp, and it's great, i don't know of any other dex quite like it. but its no idiot proof, and i'm an idiot, a lot of people are. being on some simpler dexes as well would be good even if they don't have the us dollar on ramps bisq does in its unique way

>> No.51452683

>>51452520
>>51452560
You're not the only one who couldn't figure out what the fuck was going on with bisq

I'll see about putting more effort into it and do a basic guide writeup

>> No.51452741

>>51452683
very nice, good work.

>> No.51452749

>>51452279
>>51452388
This. How do I buy drugs with LN + CoinJoin?

>> No.51453299

>>51453005
Anons, please come witness this fool. He seems to believe that Bitcoin is more decentralized than XMR because "not every CPU is mining XMR" whereas every ASIC is mining Bitcoin. I need a fucking cigarette after reading it.

I encourage you to read the entire interaction I have had with him, if you have the time