/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.51025424]

Why didn't you learn 2 code?

[Anonymous No.51025453]

>>51025424
I too am an expert on mental health

[Anonymous No.51025480]

>>51025424
those are california rates. he's basically poor.

[Anonymous No.51025489]

>>51025424
honestly I'm too retarded.

[Anonymous No.51025506]

>>51025424
i did. it's boring and autistic and i'd rather coast in my do-nothing $100k/year wfh job than endure the pain of being a professional codenigger.

[Anonymous No.51025518]

>>51025424
>Chudbragging
Bet he isn't so open about discussing dick length

[Anonymous No.51025728]

i prefer my life

[Anonymous No.51025881]

>>51025424
Because nobody wants to be a corporate cuck like you dude.

[Anonymous No.51025921]

>>51025881
just because you know how to code doesn't mean you have to be a corporate cuck or a wagie.

i got passive income + the ability to create apps scripts or whatever the fuck I want to perform any task I want. It's a very valuable skill, especially in this age.

[Anonymous No.51025951]

>>51025424
All these tech companies can throw money around because of the low interest rates the last years. This came to an end, all those useless eaters will have a rude awakening. Essential jobs are stable in a recession, but people will vut netflix and airbnb, people will travel less, coorps will buy less ads on facebook and co. Damn i like it when all this tech nonsense will go down in flames.

[Anonymous No.51025960]

>>51025921
cope, there is no need for you to be in front of a computer. You actually hate it. Passive income neet is the way and you failed

[Anonymous No.51025970]

Thread is full of traide cope, have fun shoveling shit or whatever at 6:00 A.M tomorrow, tradie!

[Anonymous No.51025983]

>>51025970
>im a better wagie than you
cope wagie

[Anonymous No.51026015]

>>51025424
how far does say $400k get you in cali?

is it like $200k after taxes then $50k after rent? sounds bad

[Anonymous No.51026176]

>>51025960
i literally said I have passive income faggot, about as passive as it gets.

[Anonymous No.51026219]

>>51025424
this is the corotate equivalent of telling everyone to buy bitcoin at 60k

[Anonymous No.51026224]

>>51025424
demoralization thread

[Anonymous No.51026230]

>>51025424
Wonder how much of it is stock value and actual cash

[Anonymous No.51026345]

>>51026230
At least 3/4 of it is in RSU funny money, guaranteed.

Base pay doesn't increase much as you climb the ladder. You get paid in stocks to "encourage" you to care about the company's outcome even though you're just a cog in the giant conglomerate and have no means to sway any of its products or trajectory. It's all a scam.

[Anonymous No.51026404]

>>51026015
I live just outside LA and was easily living with my wife and kid paying for a 3 bedroom condo on only 60k a year. People who make 400k a year should be able to retire in 5 years.

[Anonymous No.51026487]

how does this guy use the rsus(most od his comp) if hes job hopping every year?

[Anonymous No.51027197]

>>51026404
Exactly kek I see Mexicans raising entire families with shit jobs making 40k per year. They somehow buy brand new cars and houses and manage to pay them off while sending their kids to college.

[Anonymous No.51027223]

>>51025424
Hiw do you get your first job in this? I have a bs in physics with good grades.

Plz respond

[Anonymous No.51027384]

>>51025424
would be interesting if people started to get judged on what have they done against the jews

[Anonymous No.51027423]

he earns more per month then i do per year

[Anonymous No.51027499]

If that's who I think it is he actually knows his shit about databases and writing efficient queries. So looking at the timeline is misleading. You'll have a hard time reaching his skill level in any time frame half-assing it like most people. Same way anyone can make it to senior dev but making it to tech lead you need to be on another level and actually know your shit.

[Anonymous No.51027526]

it's a lot less impressive income when you think about what his income is after taxes, especially california income taxes + federal income tax. Unless he has some massive deductions he's not pulling in enough money to really live a luxurious life.

[Anonymous No.51027536]

>>51025728
>Capture d’écran
bonjour mon ami

[Anonymous No.51027542]

>>51027223
You can get a first job by making a portfolio with 2-3 projects and applying for entry level full stack or frontend web dev positions. Don't expect it to be high-paying though. After like 2 years if you've spent the time learing about data structures and algos, design patterns, and basic system design you should be able to move to a significantly higher paying job.

[Anonymous No.51027560]

>>51025921
sure but you still talk like an absolute charisma void ugly faggot
faggot

[Anonymous No.51027572]

>>51027560
>still talk like an absolute charisma void ugly faggot

How do I fix this

[Anonymous No.51027603]

>>51027542
>making a portfolio with 2-3 projects
Like run of the mill python projects I can pull off of Google? Should I throw in a C, C++, Java, or html or something?

[Anonymous No.51027609]

>>51027572
by paying me significant monthly fees to lifecoach you
[e-mail]

[Anonymous No.51027624]

>>51027609
>proton.me
hello autistic shitskin scammer

[Anonymous No.51027625]

>>51027197
They don’t pay taxes

[Anonymous No.51027636]

>>51027624
it's proton mail's prefix
the fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.51027640]

>>51025424
>>51025518
/thread

[Anonymous No.51027652]

>>51027624
I'm also so handsome you'd get visibly embarrassed if you stood next to me in public
and that's fr with no cap bruh

[Anonymous No.51027659]

>>51025424
I'll admit.
This has me thinking.
Got any more?
Being 33 years old is a late fucking start but... considering I have $0 because I never knew what I wanted to do and covid kicked me out of the last thing I was familiar with...

[Anonymous No.51027675]

>>51027625
They still only make 40k a year

[Anonymous No.51027684]

>>51027652
Nobody cares that you’ve watched a few Andrew tate videos you Arab shitskin scammer, fuck off

[Anonymous No.51027696]

>>51025424
I did but I don't want to go beyond junior positions.
Senior sounds like too much of a pain.

[Anonymous No.51027711]

>>51027542
projectmaxxing doesn't work anymore. now you're competing against bootcampers and a glut of pandemic grads.

[Anonymous No.51027719]

>>51027684
literally who?

[Anonymous No.51027746]

>>51027223

[Anonymous No.51027769]

>>51027603
>Like run of the mill python projects I can pull off of Google?
No, ideally it'd be websites for some community you're a part of not something copied from a tutorial. An example would be a website that lets you track stock and crypto pairs, if it passes a certain range you can use the twilio api to notify the user idk be creative. They probably wont even look at the code much, so make sure you make it presentable and add some level of polish to it.
>Should I throw in a C, C++, Java, or html or something?
Needs to be something for web that you can show a live version of (link it in the repo and in your resume btw). They're not gonna spend time downloading an app, or cloning a repo and figuring out how to test it out.
>>51027711
Worked for me, I speak from experience.

[Anonymous No.51027775]

>>51027197
I remember someone on /biz/ posting a long list of government handouts that single mothers could claim, which would bring a woman on a $40k salary up to around $70-80k, with the $30-40k from the government being tax free. Obviously a lot of people abuse this by breaking up on paper but continuing to live together so that they can boost their income by 30-40k

[Anonymous No.51027784]

>>51025424
I did. But contrary to what you believe as a non-software engineer, software engineers rarely do default codemonkey shit. That's what the Indians do.

[Anonymous No.51027789]

>>51027652
i dont frequent your brown nigger filth watering holes, repulsive low IQ mutt retard.

[Anonymous No.51027792]

>>51027775
That sounds like it would be easy to root out especially with the new IRS agents. Obviously you'd both have the same home address.

[Anonymous No.51027828]

>>51027792
People who abuse it obviously set the mans home address at his parents house. Hopefully the IRS starts staking out houses where single mothers are cashing in to see if baby daddy comes and goes every day. The system is rife with abuse

[Anonymous No.51027843]

the only thing that matters in life is being in the top 1% of everything.

In California to be in the top 1% of income, you have to make $745,314 a year, this guy is not even 1% despite all his effort.

[Anonymous No.51027928]

>>51027659
I went to a bullshit coding bootcamp older than you and my first job was 100k. Time to get your shit together.

[Anonymous No.51027940]

>>51025424
Only in burgerland
Here in 3rd worldsville, even the $80k step is impossible.

And moving to the US isn't practical either. Not only do you have to leave your family behind, but the rates for H1B coders are significantly lower, since the employers know that they're still paying you better than what you'd get locally, defeating the purpose anyway.

[Anonymous No.51027972]

>>51025424
Programming is something you learn if you have an idea that hasn't been implemented. You do well if you work for yourself only. $300k per year is okay but a lot of these software platforms you work on are worth billions or hundeds of millions. That is cucked.

[Anonymous No.51027996]

>>51027972
This. I did my comp sci degree but never had any ideas to build a portfolio. I spent more of my free time learning to trade because I actually loved it and ended up making that a career.

[Anonymous No.51028157]

>>51025424
My Econ program was very data science heavy. Took upper division probability and statistics courses, had to use matlab and python in all my Econ labs. I wanted to work in finance but should I consider data science?

[Anonymous No.51028202]

>>51028157
Finance is twice the work for the same pay. With the tech bubble deflating and VC money drying up the easy days might be over though, so it's a gamble

[Anonymous No.51028203]

>>51027769
So build a website with some bells and whistles. Is that what you're suggesting? Because that's pretty much what I wanted to do anyway

[Anonymous No.51028294]

>>51028203
Yep exactly. I went with a content aggregation site that scraped info from a ton of different sources and made it searchable. For the interview questions I got asked about how I designed the database to make the search fast with the amount of data I had, how I chose my tech stack, whether I knew about the CAP theorem, etc.

[Anonymous No.51028302]

I'm getting an associate in computer programming then doing a coding Bootcamp then getting my bachelor's. What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.51028330]

>>51028294
So expect to be questioned about your website. Which is part of the reason why you don't follow a tutorial. Along with the fact that they've probably seen the project before.

[Anonymous No.51028366]

>>51028302
I'm on the same boat, but doing a self paced online bootcamp and the associates at the same time.
I don't think programming is easy, even webdev monkey shit, most people fail in bootcamps and even in associate degrees with basic programming and databases. just remember that you need to practice and study, it's the same as anything else, nothing comes "natural" unless you're a genius

[Anonymous No.51028395]

>>51027828
they do this in the UK, i have two friends that live with their girlfriends and have kids but have their official addresses listed with their parents so the mother can claim benefits, it's easy and it's common. here the government runs adverts encouraging people to rat out their neighbours if they suspect they are living together when they claim not to, you even get a cash reward for successfully ratting them out

[Anonymous No.51028401]

>>51025424
>Mental Health | ADHD | Dogs | Youtube

[Anonymous No.51028405]

>>51025424
i did but ill take 120k in the southeast over 300k in CA any day

[Anonymous No.51028418]

>>51027625
based

[Anonymous No.51028422]

>>51028401
and a lead at that, people have to answer to this guy lmao

[Anonymous No.51028423]

>>51027572
don't be gay
people overthink it but that's all there is to it
the moment you have the impulse to do some gay shit, just don't

[Anonymous No.51028435]

>>51027625
chicanos how do i learn this power?

[Anonymous No.51028446]

Imagine learning to code in canada. Start at 45k work your way up to 100k after grinding for a decade, after tax take home is 70k

[Anonymous No.51028451]

>>51025424
Because not anyone can do it. You need an aptitude in math and science in order to succeed. It’s also extremely competitive and you’re up against people who have been doing it since middle school.

[Anonymous No.51028465]

>>51025424
>>51025951
Can't wait until these faggots are on the streets

[Anonymous No.51028481]

>>51027542
>You can get a first job by making a portfolio with 2-3 projects and applying for entry level full stack or frontend web dev positions. Don't expect it to be high-paying though. After like 2 years if you've spent the time learing about data structures and algos, design patterns, and basic system design you should be able to move to a significantly higher paying job.
>>51027603
Definitely switch quickly in the early years. I went from $60k/year -> $300k/year in 5 years.

>>51027711
>projectmaxxing doesn't work anymore.
Entry level for me was in 2016. Not sure what the landscape is like now, but maybe referalmaxxing is the way to go now

[Anonymous No.51028509]

>80k in normal company
>500k in globohomo corptech

Yeah we all gonna work on NETFLIX.

[Anonymous No.51028535]

>>51026487
Netflix actually pays most TC in base pay.

[Anonymous No.51028547]

>>51028401
>>51028422
See this is why these huge websites have long standing glaring bugs that never get fixed, when it would take any half-decent programmer an afternoon to fix them all.

They throw millions to mentally ill people and put them in lead positions.

[Anonymous No.51028562]

>>51025728
>if only you knew how bad things really were
I'll keep my four-figure net worth, thanks

[Anonymous No.51028583]

>>51026345
Airbnb is public, though, so it's not quite "funny money" in the same way as it would be at other/smaller tech companies.

[Anonymous No.51028593]

>>51027928
how is this possible lol... people who come out of bootcamps have no fucking idea what they're doing, at most you can stitch together some libraries and do some very basic frontend work. Did you also happen to have a STEM degree at a good uni or something? Because otherwise this has to be bs, although I don't live in the US so idk you guys have insane salaries

[Anonymous No.51028761]

>>51027940
>The H1B wage is intended to protect U.S. workers from being displaced by foreign workers willing to work for less money.
Das rite

[Anonymous No.51028823]

>>51025424
so much cope in this thread kek

[Anonymous No.51028921]

>>51025424
Bruh I would kill for 30k a year in my cucked country. Really gonna have to take the remote pill after I'm done with my degree

[Anonymous No.51029026]

>>51025518
>y-yeah ok but what about weiner length!?
This is why youre poor

[Anonymous No.51029329]

>>51028509
I would do exactly what he did.
But at least AirBNB isn't completely globohomo.
At least people get to go to nice places because of your work.
Unlike facebook where you're literally smoothing the way to steal the concept of choice from people through spying.
Even we on 4chan are not *actually* immune to propaganda and advertising.

[Anonymous No.51029634]

>>51026404
>I live just outside LA and was easily living with my wife and kid paying for a 3 bedroom condo on only 60k a year.
>was
You.... You doing alright, anon?

[Anonymous No.51029681]

>>51028593
they make 100k but in California, which is almost below the poverty line, that's how pathetic it is. Also you have to live in the soulless place in the world: America. Full of obese people, crazy feminists and literal white supremacists, full of incel virgins who want to shoot up schools and malls, nignogs rioting, horrible cities with 0 public transport and disgusting architecture, you can't walk anywhere and you are surrounded with dumb celebrity culture and retards slurping on their starbucks while consuming dunkin donuts as a snack, if you break your leg you have to pay 10k just for the ambulance to get you to the hospital, a degree will cost you tens of thousands in debt, and you will be overworked to death, because americans have an insane work protestant culture where they feel guilty if they're not working or producing for their jews overlords. Truly the land of the cucked and soulless: America. Better to live in a good european city making half of what they make, hell even latin america is better if you have money.

[Anonymous No.51029695]

>>51027792
Why do you think the IRS cares about it? They're going after you and your drop-shipping side hustle, not Mexicans. The system is working precisely as designed, which is to fuck and replace you.

[Anonymous No.51030079]

>>51028202
I honestly can care less about the money anymore. I just don’t want to work 100 hours a week in finance anymore.

[Anonymous No.51030090]

>>51028823
Seething baggies everywhere

[Anonymous No.51030394]

>>51029681
Yeah we get it, youre a eurocuck who hates america. You could have just said that at the beginning instead of ranting like an embellished imbecile. Cope

[Anonymous No.51030502]

>>51029681
the idea that you have to make 200k in california to make it is a meme. you're comfy if you're making 100k/yr in california. just don't live in the san jose area. los angeles can be expensive, but with 100k you're still comfy. when people picture california, they think of la, which is understandable, because la is very gay. san diego is ultra comfy, temperate, beautiful, and the people are white and conservative.

[Anonymous No.51030534]

>Story of my life
Solidity was far too difficult for me; I learned JS, but my Dutch bag friends mocked me. A few weeks ago, I discovered a new blockchain, QANplatform, that allows Devs to code in any programming language, which I think is fantastic; my efforts are not in vain afterall

[Anonymous No.51030550]

>>51028302
Bump

[Anonymous No.51030662]

>>51027996
how do you learn how to trade

[Anonymous No.51030766]

>>51025921
This
People here apparently never heard of b2b

[Anonymous No.51030817]

>>51030766
explain how coding can help you b2b

[Anonymous No.51030879]

>>51030502
Motherfucker I lived in San Diego for the past decade explain to me where it is “beautiful” compared to la the only thing better is less homelessness no smog compared to la and that just about it, you can’t even see the fucking Milky Way at night there’s no beautiful locations in San Diego compared to 99 percent of city’s in California they quite literally all look the same.

[Anonymous No.51030914]

>>51030879
Sorry excluding Santa Monica and Malibu.

[Anonymous No.51030967]

>>51030914
Living in Santa Monica, it's pretty comfy

[Anonymous No.51030978]

>>51028465
just shaking off dead weight
layoffs are a bullish signal for an industry

[Anonymous No.51031178]

>>51030534
>Solidity was far too difficult for me
You are a retard that can't spell A-Z. I know only less than 1% of Devs are brilliant enough to know solidity but brilliant one still knows it, but in all fair points QVM is better than EVM

[Anonymous No.51031185]

>>51025424
I did and then quit as it's slavery fit only for midwits.

[Anonymous No.51031223]

>>51030967
It is, but your household needs to be making $300k+ per annum to own real estate here.

t. Rentoid

[Anonymous No.51031312]

>>51031223
Maybe a condo anon? I'd like to have a house in the northeast then live in a condo out here in the winter

[Anonymous No.51031331]

>>51025424
What does he have to show for that $2mill he earned?

[Anonymous No.51031359]

>>51025424
I did. I make 250k in the Midwest which is comparable to what this homo makes in commiefornia. Thing is I’ve been doing it 20 years and it’s kind of boring to me at this point. I want to do something else but the pay is too good to give up.

[Anonymous No.51031414]

>>51025424
I'd rather shoot my dog than browse /g/

[Anonymous No.51031452]

>just be a computer slave
>just be a tax cattle
>just spend your youth learning all that bullshit to maintain bullshit web apps used for meaningless purposes
>Meanwhile Jose and Jamal are outbreeding your ass

Why not just take the redneck pill and /diy/ trade job and impregnate some rural redneck women? Honestly computers are just worthless machines after the invention of c++. Gigachad took the encryption pill and hacks financial data for profit.

[Anonymous No.51031455]

>>51025424
he did this as a low-key brag to attract women. The irony is that he is most likely the type of woke person who claims that women don't care about money.

[Anonymous No.51031502]

>>51029026
>poor
Blacks in the US can just live off neetbux, they're doing fine.

[Anonymous No.51031513]

>>51031414
based and intelligent pilled.

[Anonymous No.51031537]

>>51027625
Yeah that's the secret. They flourish in literal poverty since the government doesn't remove half their income and then half their gains (COMPOUNDING) on top of it

[Anonymous No.51032318]

>>51025424
I did. I don't make as much as this guy, but knowing a bit about code as a mechanical engineer has definitely upped my opportunities and pay.
And the best part is that I learned to code for free while I was supposed to be working.

[Anonymous No.51032344]

Coding is literally life on easy mode. You get a salary in the top 5% with opportunities to reach the 1% of you get into management at a decent company. Even people with shitty high school or college grades can make a good living.
It's not a meme. Learn to code.

[Anonymous No.51032350]

>>51025518
Is there something we can do about it though?

[Anonymous No.51032404]

>>51025424
>2013: $13.50 as call center wagie for charity
>2016: $15 per hour plus commission as SDR for SAAS company
>2018: $13 per hour as call center wage for tech support
>2019: $15 per hour as scooter technician
>2020: $17 per hour as shift lead for scooter company
>2021: $19.25 per hour as shift lead at delivery store run by delivery app company

I didn't learn to code because I thought I'd be able to get a job in the federal government with my political science and international relations degree

[Anonymous No.51032506]

Because I’m a retard that chose mechanical engineering

2019: $50,000 salary
2020: $54,000 salary
2021: $57,000 salary
2022: $63,000 salary

Complete joke of a “career” field

[Anonymous No.51032538]

Guys, why don't you just get into SEO? Salary is okay, work is easy.

[Anonymous No.51032558]

>>51032404
I'm sorry, anon.
You thought your life would be nice suits and marble buildings and those chairs with the studs.
It's not the fault of a high school student who thought he could learn about other nations and be an asset to his country. Turns out that nobody will raise lawsuits against senators who put their kids into jobs with no background requirements.
Well, thank God for our Bill of Rights. Literally, thank God.

[Anonymous No.51032563]

So much cope and envy in this thread.

[Anonymous No.51032569]

>>51030879
no where on earth will you be satisfied because youre a doomer. youll find faults in a tropical paradise. san diego is very comfy compared to 99% of places.

[Anonymous No.51032690]

>>51030817
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.51032820]

>>51032558
>You thought your life would be nice suits and marble buildings and those chairs with the studs.

not even, I would've been happy just doing statistical research and offering policy suggestions to actual movers and shakers in the world of politics. The whole political situation just disgusts me. Outside of foreign policy, there are real objective things we can do to benefit the population just in regards to road construction and what kind of tax breaks to offer to which kinds of developers. Simple shit. But none of it matters because it's a personality contest down to the smallest office. And good luck getting a job in city government if you are a white male and live in any decent sized American city (because cities are filled with niggers and they are hired preferentially).

I even thought that understanding how nation states operate and how groups of people interact with other groups of people could be useful to corporations especially large international businesses, but no. I could go back to school and get a law degree and work 60-70 hours a week for more money, but unless I was in a specific field I enjoyed it would just be another form of drudgery.

I'm currently planning to start my own high ROI clothing business and then if it takes off try to transition to that full time. I think I've finally identified a good niche that I could market products to. Or maybe my crypto will take off before then and I'll be able to be comfy for a change

[Anonymous No.51032828]

>>51025424
If this guy wants to make it less "taboo" he should breakdown his comp structure further into salary vs bonus vs rsu. As he moved up the ladder the rsu's outpaced the others (although im sure he was pulling 250 to 300k as a lead aka still great money). This is just some basedcuck bragging. If youre looking for higher liquid comp go work in PE / management consulting (MBB post MBA especially).

[Anonymous No.51032930]

>>51032820
>there are real objective things we can do to benefit the population
Correct, if some farmer here was elected president and some teacher in France was elected president.
But every single politician in office now thinks they're elected to rule and take.
I wish I could point to even a single good one

[Anonymous No.51032941]

Is it easier to be a data scientist or software engineer?
Do I need a CS degree to be a data scientist?

[Anonymous No.51033077]

>>51025424
> Switching jobs every year
I'm curious. Why did he get high paying jobs at Netflix and Air B'n'B if the employers could see he is just job hopping and the money they'll pay him would likely be wasted? In those jobs you need a certain amount of time to onboard and get familiar with everything, so he is not producing value immidiately.

[Anonymous No.51033140]

>>51025480
this, half goes directly to taxes

[Anonymous No.51033295]

>>51028593

A bootcamp is 3 months at most. I really dont know how they advertise as job ready. It’ll take at least twice that time doing it 6+ hours a day to get close to job ready.

[Anonymous No.51033922]

>>51030817
>be a grifter
>shit up the internet and allow Google to tighten up security and their "no-fun zone" because of assholes like these people fucking up the algorithms
>ask someone to pay you for 'protection'
>?????
>profit

[Anonymous No.51034174]

especially Web3 related shit. so many devs and coders are making a shit ton off of grants
ETH devs made unbelievable amounts and just go see what orgs like BitDAO are offering as grants. holy fuck

[Anonymous No.51034507]

>>51025424

Why do these people faggotize everything? Compensation? Do they really use 4 syllables for pay/income/salary/wage. They'll call being dead 'heartbeat challenged' soon. Can't say anything true, ever, for any reason.

[Anonymous No.51036933]

>>51025480

[Anonymous No.51036953]

>>51025424
I dislike coding. Made way more speculating on crypto and I hardly work nowadays thanks to COVID

[Anonymous No.51036966]

>>51025424
I don't know. Please help me, I hate being poor.

[Anonymous No.51037012]

I know a guy who moved to america to work for FANG

autistic engineer type
Im not even sure what he does these days there
I know for sure he's straight, but I think he just absolutely struggles with women and making friends

Always posts stories of 'travelling'
but its kind of sad cause its always just him by himself
never a girl in sight, never other friends
My guess is he posts as he has a chip on his shoulder from his earlier years

[Anonymous No.51037058]

>>51027746
isnt there a bit easier version?

[Jealous No.51037069]

>this retard getting paid $~10^2/hr

[Anonymous No.51037088]

>>51034507
most techniggers are cash poor which is why they talk about total compensation. $600k at airbnb is $250k base + $300k stock + $53k bonus. tl;dr you make $600k "total compensation" on paper but it's in the highest cost of living locale in the USA (san francisco) and you're forced to live like you make $250k/year because lenders don't care to hear about RSU compensation. https://www.levels.fyi/companies/airbnb/salaries/software-engineer

[Anonymous No.51037187]

>>51025424
I went to university, got a degree in CS and worked in the field for about a year. I was actually pretty good at it and I enjoyed doing interview-style coding problems in my spare time. But I just hated doing it as a job. That shit got old so fast. I haven't worked since 2019 and at this point I'd rather stock shelves than go back into software development. I think something might just be wrong with me though

[Anonymous No.51037209]

>>51027972
Yeah it’s better to work at Walmart stocking shelves for $16 an hour while Dougie makes 1000x what you do. Fuck yourself.

[Anonymous No.51037959]

>>51037187
>I'd rather stock shelves than go back into software development
are you me

[Anonymous No.51038006]

>>51037209

[Anonymous No.51038035]

the coding meme has passed
normies gatekeep it now and any degree or coding bootcamp is a waste of time

[Anonymous No.51038076]

>>51026176
>i literally said I have passive income faggot, about as passive as it gets.
I am a competent coder. How do I translate that into passive income streams?

[Anonymous No.51038134]

>>51038006
I’m right though. Being an engineer for 150k while the ceo is taking home $30m is insulting, but making $30k while the CEO makes the same amount is straight up humiliating

[Anonymous No.51038297]

>>51038076
off the top of my head

https://urlebird.com/

see this website, it somehow scrapes content from tiktok and when you search tiktok [name] the sites ranks sometimes above tiktok itself, and monetises with ads. find a hustle like that and profit. or anything really. make a better tradingview bot api then what's already out there. there are sites that just give you a webhook endpoint and relay messages coming into webhook to your exchange via api, they charge per web hook or monthly. make a pirate onlyfans site, and sell downloads via crypto.

[Anonymous No.51039065]

>>51025424
The only thing his history shows is the bloating of the fagman bubble

[Anonymous No.51039194]

>>51038134
You’re not faggot, nothing stops you from being a ceo of your own company. Oh that’s right you lack resources/intellect, so sit down and shut the fuck up commie filth

[Anonymous No.51039272]

My salary is around 100k but I basically do very little work and it’s remote. I wouldn’t want to be a dev lead or anything like that because then I would actually have to do something and I just hate working in general. I code some small things and as long as no one complains, I won’t up my speed

[Anonymous No.51039357]

>>51038134
>>51039194
Youre both fucking wrong, if youre an actual 10x engineer making 400k+ youre only really making 2.5x more than the stupid new grad. Being a smart engineer in no way means you can run a successful business. You either cuck out, accept you arent a risk taker and put on your golden handcuffs or venture into the unknown to work for yourself and earn what youre actually worth.

[Anonymous No.51039498]

You can learn how to code on the semillalabs developer discord- link on their twitter page. They also have classes that pay you in crypto when you complete them. Once you learn to code, you can join a project in their incubator channel.

[Anonymous No.51040301]

what are some dipshit positions i can do in that field even as a noob?

my cousin did some cert or class where she is going to make 80K a year starting in the medical field and its an easy as fuck job. in the software dev field is there something that over pays for even low skilled and new people?

[Anonymous No.51042451]

>>51025424

Because most positions aren't gonna get filled with Americans/Europeans. They wanna mostly use cheap labor.

I work for a Major bank in what I guess I would say as an IT Project Manager. There is no coding involved on my end but it happens for what we support.

Literally all of our clients and the 3rd parties that they use are Poos for their coding/certification/development/production etc instead of and they are FUCKING awful.

We literally have to meet with one client like 6 times a week on Zoom because of we have to spend 2 hours (2 meetings) a week walking the 3rd party coders through their issues and and now we have to spend another 2 extra meetings with the client to get through these issue on top of the regular Internal & external meetings we have....and this is JUST 1 client out of a ton we gotta do shit like this for.

I would gladly work with overpaid/junior/rookie American or European developers at this point.

Honestly thinking of learning to code despite not needing to just help my Tech Analysts get shit done and then after getting my PMP, switching to a more Tech role.

[Anonymous No.51042745]

>>51025424
>"People should be more comfortable talking about their salaries." - Guy who earns half a million

[Anonymous No.51043325]

>>51025951
literal cope

[Anonymous No.51043343]

>>51042451
India needs a biohazard unleashed on it to stop remote working

[Anonymous No.51043506]

>>51043343
Seriously

But let all the Bollywood whores come over here.
I work in Plano Texas and I can't find any Indian/Paki girls on my dating apps but they are everywhere at Legacy West (Fancy Outdoor mall in North Texas).
I hate working with them but I would definitely prefer to wife one over the white girls with baggage here in DFW.

[Anonymous No.51043588]

>>51025424
What a waste of money. Imagine paying someone over half a million dollars to fuck around on excel all day. Will be making min wage at starcucks after the tech bubble bursts.

[Anonymous No.51044263]

>>51026015
Far enough that you can live as comfortably as you want. It is not 200K after taxes. Where do people get this? Even taking the highest marginal rate you ain't Fucking paying that. Most people can bring their tax rate down to less than 30%

[Anonymous No.51044307]

>>51027675
40k is 70k pretax

[Anonymous No.51044456]

I dedicated that time to learning about crypto which I regard as the oil of the 21st century and now, I want to be a tech person. However, right now, I can take my eyes off _SYS_ so I don't miss out on this amazing scalable, cost-effective, secure and carbon green project as soon as it starts popping off

[Anonymous No.51044629]

>>51033077
Companies pay good money just so you're not working with their competition.

[Anonymous No.51044634]

>>51027197
No taxes and usually multiple members of the family work. Having a 14 member family is pretty doable when there’s two real careers and 5-7 minimum wages worth of income rolling through the household. Not luxury but doable.

[Anonymous No.51044813]

>>51025424
>ADHD
>Non existent and made up bs
How can a man this idiotic earn that kind of wage, kek.

[Anonymous No.51044868]

I did and am. But the question is how many years of my life am I willing to burn working 70-80 hour weeks in a devil's pact to make a mid six figure income plus stock options for that amount of time.

[Anonymous No.51044876]

>>51029695
Based.
These IRS agents need money to invite more niggers and mexicans to the USA

[Anonymous No.51044901]

>>51044813
perseverance, thats unironically it

[Anonymous No.51045256]

>>51025960
I'm earning passively on ETH and SCRT which I staked on Kraken. I'm also a data analyst and about to finish my training in video editing. I believe these skills will fetch me enough dough.

[Anonymous No.51045318]

>>51025506
Coder here I code for 1 hour and do nothing all day after that $280k junior dev

[Anonymous No.51045332]

>>51032820
>>51032930
>we can do to benefit the population just in regards to road construction
Guess what, God installed governments to persecute criminals who kill, rape and steal. That's the ONLY task the government has to do.
No one cares about you wanting to build more roads for degenerate faggots so that they can travel easier to their gay parades and cons00mers could travel to their stores.
What money were you supposed to be using? Aahh tax payers money, yes?

[Anonymous No.51045431]

>>51044901
>perseverance
To be honest, you are right.

[Anonymous No.51045455]

>>51045318
How do I get a job in this field?

[Anonymous No.51045535]

>>51025424
So are all these lead software devs going to be sitting on the equivalent of 50 million dollars by retirement? How is this sustainable.

[Anonymous No.51046200]

>>51045535
>How is this sustainable
It isn't

[Anonymous No.51046236]

>>51025921
I rather do plumbing then go back into computers and dealing with retards. I can work whenever I want, and always needed. Especially for boilers, and with those jobs. You don't even work a full day.

[Anonymous No.51046851]

>>51025424
that isn't salary
it's "total compensation"
just fyi

[Anonymous No.51046880]

>>51045535
a lot of that compensation is in stock that will be worthless soon enough

[Anonymous No.51046956]

>>51025424
I don't want to spend the rest of my short time on this planet sitting on a chair talking to tranny co-workers, trying to fix bugs in useless apps, being mentally drained all day, while having nothing to spend my money on because of chronic health problems due to excessive sitting.

[Anonymous No.51047038]

>>51045535
Its literally the same as being partner at a big law firm, those companies are worth several hundred billions and they give a tiny slice of the pie for the best collaborators. You should see what a dude with 30+ years of growth inside big tech makes a year in total compensation, it's absolutely bonkers

[Anonymous No.51047068]

>>51025424
yeah I learned java, and now I'm just some fucking poor neet that knows java and nothing changed.

[Anonymous No.51047281]

>>51042451
what will you use your pmp for if not project management?

[Anonymous No.51047768]

>>51045535
>So are all these lead software devs going to be sitting on the equivalent of 50 million dollars by retirement? How is this sustainable.
What makes it unsustainable? The number of people that work at Netflix isn't that high and they mostly (like to) live in places where homes start at $1.2 million.

[Anonymous No.51047778]

>>51046851
>that isn't salary
>it's "total compensation"
>just fyi
Over most of the last 10 years that was an even better thing than salary

[Anonymous No.51048855]

>>51047768
Man all them Cats work remote now! They ain't gots to live in those places.

[Anonymous No.51050139]

>>51025424
>575k to move data from point a to point b

[Anonymous No.51050237]

>>51045256
I stake my ETH on Binance anon. I'm also looking forward to earning from the protocol generated fees on Railgun when it's implemented. I'm learning coding by the side so things are progressing nicely.

[Anonymous No.51050272]

>>51025424
He's probably suicidally depressed and empty inside, hence the sudden need to brag about salary.

[Anonymous No.51050468]

>>51050272
better to be depressed and empty inside with a million dollars than without desu

[Anonymous No.51050493]

>>51050272
that's cope if I've ever seen one

[Anonymous No.51050574]

>>51025480
>600K
>300K taxes
>150K rent
that's still 150K a year

[Anonymous No.51050585]

I did at a rudementry level but I didn't go full computer science and honistly I don't have the attention span to grind away and get super duper good at it.
Unless you luck out with a independent project, low level coding/programing pays worse then retail.
You ether have to go full on into a high level specialty in software engineering and the like with full certs, or work massive amounts just grinding away to make a living.

I realize where my strangths and weaknesses are and that I don't have what it takes to get good at CS.
I can't sit still that fucking long man. Not without a lot of drugs and being miserable the full time.

[Anonymous No.51050611]

That's what I tell myself is the reason

[Anonymous No.51050874]

550k for a “software engineer” at fucking Netflix? What is there even to do all day? I press a button, it loads my video. The tech is already there. Wtf do they even work on?

[Anonymous No.51050959]

>>51050585
That is interesting anon. WHat do you mean by low level coding? What kind? And what kind of pay can be expected for something like that? More than 50 hours a week?

[Anonymous No.51051084]

>>51046236
>I rather do plumbing then ... dealing with retards
I'm sure you and your clients are way smarter than the people paying coders to make apps...

[Anonymous No.51051213]

>>51050959
>WHat do you mean by low level coding?
As in code monkey/lego code type stuff. Basic proficient in using a few programing languages but not to the technical or knowledge level of a full on software engineer.
Basically it's the level of programing that is super ease to outsource to people willing to work for FAR below minimal wage.
You aren't just up against with local talent, you are competing with the whole world, and people in developing nations can under bid for the same low level quality of work.

So it really doesn't pay to be a codemonkey unless you have massive output with super low expenses.
Just being able to code isn't enough. You have to be able to do more, such as be a full professional in IT and be a full engineer to make decent money.

All that said, I can't do it. I can't sit at a computer fully focused looking at code 12 hours a day every day.
Shit, I can't even funpost on here without taking breaks to walk around and do other stuff.

[Anonymous No.51051371]

I'm going to take an extra year at college to switch from Chemistry (lab monkey) to Computer Science (code monkey).

[Anonymous No.51052250]

>>51051213
I see, thanks for the insight. What do you think of this curriculum? https://teachyourselfcs.com/
I am currently engaged in self study, doing exactly that sort of low level novice programming practice that conforms with your description of a code monkey. Once I have enough aptitude in the basics I intend to focus more fully on learning computer science properly. I just really don't like structured learning in universities and find self study to be most effective.

[Anonymous No.51052418]

>>51052250
>What do you think of this curriculum?
Would take a lot of self discipline and determination to get through, and I am concerned that it on it's own doesn't prepare you for certification exams, but yeah if someone did the course I think they would have a solid understanding with a lot of practical skills.

You will need certifications to actually get hired. So in addition to that course I would recommend looking up study material for the reverent certs you need for the jobs you are interested in and saving up for the exams or looking up if you qualify for fee wavers.
I would also be sure to have projects of your own on the side just to keep you in practice and push you to keep developing your skills.

That said, I am obviously no longer in the tech industry so take what I say with a grain of salt.
/g/ would probably be best to ask for more detail of what it takes to make it in the industry as it currently is.

[Anonymous No.51052482]

I found my first software dev job 2 1/2 years ago and it's paying me around $88k including bonuses. Is it time to search around for something higher paying? This job lets me WFH and I don't want to let that go though.

[Anonymous No.51052515]

>>51048855
>Man all them Cats work remote now! They ain't gots to live in those places.
What remains is that many-perhaps even MOST-people in the big tech lifestyle WANT to live in LA/NYC/SF/Seattle/etc, even when

This is for a variety of reasons:

1. friends or family are there (they aren't all incels looking to live innawoods)
2. their ethinic/cultural community has more support there
3. more intelligent neighbors, more successful neighbors that can share expensive hobbies with you

That's just off the top of my head. What I mostly see people doing is changing neighborhoods and traveling around together. That or they move to Austin, Texas lmao

[Anonymous No.51052526]

>>51051213
>. I can't sit at a computer fully focused looking at code 12 hours a day every day.
Can you do 4 hours?

[Anonymous No.51052536]

>>51025424
Man I really feel for that now. Because the opportunities for the devs are nice in the crypto sector where they can build the smart contracts in any programming languages they know with the help of QVM.

[Anonymous No.51052560]

>>51052526
Maybe, it's been awhile.

[Anonymous No.51052609]

>>51043325
Not really, it's already happening.
>t. Silicon valley fag
It's already bad, and about to get a lot worse outside of my industry. The number of panhandling at gas stations has risen sharply already.
Feelsgood to be this smug, ngl

[Anonymous No.51052626]

>>51052536
This is a great a future tech for the developers. I find Solana developers are also good. Just that they getting hacked pretty often kek...

[Anonymous No.51052721]

I've been coding for 9 years professionally and I earn 25k as a senior dev in a 3rd world country, I used to have a remote job earning around 50k-60k per year but I was young and dumb and everything went great for 4 years, the last year I was too depressed to perform well due to taking bad life decisions and breaking up with my gf and got laid off... So yeah, I've been trying to land a similar job and I haven't been able, I have the experience and all I just never get the position... So frustrating to work for 1.8k after taxes.

[Anonymous No.51052746]

>>51052626
Kek...I know anon. But I feel like shot not learning to code I would ended up making millions now. Desu the royalties they offer for build the smart contracts in an programming language make me even
more upset.

[Fastfoodchan No.51052748]

>>51052721
Sanjeet, just move to San Jose, your people are here and get paid double for the same shit code

[Anonymous No.51052757]

>>51052748
I'm a spic.

[Anonymous No.51052822]

>>51037187
>>51037959
Any other "rather be shelf stocking" bros?

[Fastfoodchan No.51052840]

>>51052757
Dash of curry to the flauta sauce, they'll never know, there's 30 major ethnic groups.

[Anonymous No.51052892]

>>51052721
Man I hear you why don't you explore into blockchain. Desu the opportunities are just so good. The annon here >>51052746 also mentioned about some royalties for building smart contracts and shit. It's best you get on with it soon.

[Anonymous No.51052967]

>>51046956
Ok so what are you going to spend the rest of your short time doing? The same thing but at Taco Bell? Get a grip nigger

[Anonymous No.51052996]

>>51025424
>30k starting

[Anonymous No.51053415]

>>51025480
>45% tax
>50% of the amount is in stock that has crashed since
>$4k+ rent if you want a family and relative safety
Only sounds good on paper tbqh, you'll need at least 10 years of basically not spending on anything except food and rent if you want a chance to make it.
I made $50k in Bulgaria for 2 years, netted $45k, left with $40k after rent of a luxury condo with mountain views in a location that's safer than anywhere in Cali, only ate restaurant food, travelled all around Europe and still had 30k/year to invest.
In addition since you're only being paid $50k, people have low expectations and you can literally trade crypto on the job, do bitcointalk bounties, take a second job from toptal and do it in your work hours in your office. Meanwhile for these $500k you need your job to be your life.

Never even been to the states but I'd assume that WFH in Arizona/Texas/Florida/Utah beats what he has.

[Anonymous No.51053440]

>>51053415
P.S. I don't understand all the cope in this thread about coding itself though.
You need to learn to code no matter what.
Not a lot of ways to start a profitable side hustle without initial $ backing.
Coding opens a lot of doors in that regard.

[Anonymous No.51054592]

>>51030079
then why the fuck are you asking the question?

[Anonymous No.51054924]

>>51025424
not smart enough

[Anonymous No.51054943]

what type of coding do you need to learn to be a data engineer that makes 200k/yr??? what language do they use

[Anonymous No.51054970]

>>51050574
you can make that flipping shitcoins like icp

[Anonymous No.51056054]

I did learn the basics.

It's boring and tedious as fuck. How can you do it ? fuck. Maybe solving some easy leetcode problems are fun but really irl I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.51056090]

>>51025424
Big tech is funded by the pentagon.
That's how you get salaries like this.
Apple isn't selling enough ads, apps, and phones to be paying their people 500k each.

[Anonymous No.51056101]

>>51056054
>CONTINUOUS INTEGRATION/CONTINUOUS DEPLOYMENT
>TEST DRIVEN DEVELOPMENT
>CLOUD INFRASTRUCTURE DEPLOYMENT
>TIME AND MEMORY COMPLEXITY
>SOLID AND DRY PRINCIPLES
>REST APIS
>THE SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT LIFECYCLE
>MICROSERVICES

[Anonymous No.51056185]

>>51056101
You forgot about the current hottest meme
>CONTAINERS

Yeah but I just need a simpl-
>NO CONTAINERIZE IT

[Anonymous No.51056198]

>>51056101
I look like this and say that.

[Anonymous No.51056225]

>>51056185
i like how the solution to an unbearably complex development or deployment environment is not to simplify things, but to keep tacking on layers of complexity that yield an absolute clusterfucked nightmare when something breaks.

i spent a few months learning modern web development >>51025506 but lost all interest once i realize how "real world" jobs are taping together poorly designed/poorly maintained frameworks and googling errors because like 100 people on earth understand what's actually going on behind the scenes. it's kind of funny how little programming is involved if you look at the time invested into common beginner portfolio projects.

[Anonymous No.51056334]

>>51056225
All true. You don't want to know how even the systems of major corporation are barely scraping by, operational only because they hang together with strings and duct tape.

If something specific breaks there's often just one guy in the entire company who knows what buttons to press to get it going again. It's actually insane. Even for critical shit like banking, it's a wonder sometimes that it works at all.

[Anonymous No.51056368]

>>51056334
>All true. You don't want to know how even the systems of major corporation are barely scraping by, operational only because they hang together with strings and duct tape.

funny story, i work in corporate accounting at a megacorp and i see this nearly every day. my employer has 3 different SAP implementations and at least 1 Oracle implementation. yesterday i identified a systems error that's causing a 12 figure margin error across two legal entities. kek.

>DUDE AI IS GONNA AUTOMATE ACCOUNTING

[Anonymous No.51056391]

>>51025424
I’m too intelligent and I type too fast, it would be dangerous for the world I coded.

[Anonymous No.51056423]

"Hi I'm calling about your application to our Jr Software Developer Position, we liked your resume but it seems you forgot to upload a scanned copy of your college transc- oh you don't have a degree? Nevermind. Have a good day"

[Anonymous No.51056435]

>>51025921
only reason i got into coding as a profession. would have just done the IB route and not be surrounded by geeks if not for that

[Anonymous No.51056462]

>>51056368
I've seen the company I work at right now lose multi million payments. Well not as much "lose" but more like, they don't know if the transaction was succesful or sent in the first place.

Fun times having the CEO breathing down your neck trying to troubleshoot this shit I tell you.

[Anonymous No.51056558]

>>51056423
>having a good goy certificate

[Anonymous No.51056625]

>>51025424
Good god.