/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.50917536]

>working from home
>doing absolutely nothing, barely know what's going on in the sprint
>most of my day is spent pretending to work (trickling emails, wiggling my mouse to stay active in teams, joining meetings on mute or saying "yeah i agree, let's get into that") and making up stories to tell in the daily standup
>some days actually nervous when it's my turn to speak in the stand-up
>not sure if my team knows I do nothing or they are all doing nothing
>making €80K per year, really wondering how sustainable all of this as my economic output is basically 0 for 2 years now
>keep getting raises and compliments from my manager
is literally nobody doing any work or are we getting carried by a few producing value and the rest just leeching? how is this sustainable?

[Anonymous No.50917564]

>>50917536
>that autistic codenigger who downplays the fact that he spent 16 hours a day in front of the computer from ages 12 to 22 to just barely get a wfh coding job after 9 months of applications and interviews
heh yeah i just do a few sets of push ups and sits ups every other day

[Anonymous No.50917605]

>>50917564
what kind of projecting is this lel
literally got this job straight out of doing a bachelor in CS
have linkedin roasties begging me to interview with them
love how you neets get upset we get mad bucks for doing literally doing nothing (the same as you) except we get paid

[Anonymous No.50917711]

>>50917536
Lmao this is me. For example, I managed to make a 3-line code change review/pull request my task of the day. I might place a comment on it to see if I can spread it to tomorrow, too.

I will be applauded during tomorrow's stand-up for having such a sharp eye and being critical which improves the quality of everything we do. Kek.

[Anonymous No.50917721]

>>50917536
>€80K
Germany?
If you say something like Italy I'm unironically killing myself

[Anonymous No.50917740]

>>50917536
If you pretend to transition, you will have a solid job for the rest of your life while still maintaining literally free 80k a year

[Anonymous No.50917777]

>>50917721
Don't forget that is before taxes pastabro. And they have a lot of taxes in Germany.

[Anonymous No.50917808]

>>50917740
>If you pretend to transition
wtf

[Anonymous No.50917849]

>>50917721
Holland, taxes something in the range of 40%

[Anonymous No.50917871]

>>50917536
I did this for about a year until the anxiety got the best of me and literally ghosted my job.

[Anonymous No.50917878]

>>50917536
I always suspected this was how wfh was. It's not sustainable. winter is coming.

[Anonymous No.50917884]

>>50917849
Programmers at my workplace make like €60k... E-commerce. Are you a senior?

[Anonymous No.50917969]

T. $220,000/yr WFH 20/hr week gigachad swinging through this thread hold me balls sons

[Anonymous No.50918084]

>>50917536
Same. My logic is our entire civilisation is at the back end of some long gone glorious days. My company too. In years past hard workers probably existed. They built this company from scratch with hard work. But they are long gone and now there's us. We tighten a few bolts, kick some pipes and call it a day. Occasionally something breaks and we patch it up like half assed retards with minimal effort. Much like our society, the business is crumbling. But when it finally falls, I'll be no where to be seen.

[Anonymous No.50918619]

>>50917969
It’s crazy. I make 125k in NC and it’s cheap as fuck here. I do nothing 90% of the time and literally work 5hrs a week. I spend most of my time learning from lead devs and hobby projects

[Anonymous No.50918701]

>>50917808
41%

[Anonymous No.50918736]

>>50917536
Leech them as much as you can before you jump ship.

[Anonymous No.50918738]

>>50917969
Bro pay me 40k of that and you'll only work 5/hr a week.

[Anonymous No.50918776]

>>50917808
>>50918701
If you pretend to transition, you gain a 41% chance increase of being hired!

[Anonymous No.50918826]

>>50917969
I’ve been able to manage my workflow to doing two jobs in under 20 hours a week, not sure how to go from 100k to 200k without taking up a position that has lots of meetings throughout the day which will screw me over a bit though. I like taking hour long walks at the height of the day.

[Anonymous No.50918841]

>>50917564
Based. I am so tired of the "yeah I work 2 hours a week and make a gorillion dollars a year"
You're either an extremely talented, senior individual or, more likely, you have up your life to lrn2code and traded in things like a first kiss so you could make some billionaire even richer.

[Anonymous No.50918865]

>>50917711
Funny thing is, doing "actual" work often gets negative response (even from the manager whose dick is gonna be in the vice when shit fucks up if this work isn't done)

[Anonymous No.50918876]

>is literally nobody doing any work or are we getting carried by a few producing value and the rest just leeching? how is this sustainable?
damn, just like real life.

[Anonymous No.50918936]

>>50917536
>wfh chad
>leave shit NYC
>move to live/work in cheap warm tropical place
>i am living a dream
>slowly gets monotonous
>get bored of beach/pool everyday
>dont see many people anymore, no real social life
>rents rise 120%
>end up back at my parents house
i wish we could go back to 2019 desu

[Anonymous No.50919097]

>>50917536
Every single industry is made up of 90% lazy fucks who go there from 9 to 5 to get their goybucks and 10% of people who keep the civilization running. I work in IT and belong to the 10% but I often think I should have chosen the NPC way, not giving a fuck. I would have half the money I have now but zero of the stress and responsibility.

[Anonymous No.50919324]

>>50919097

even if i had the work ethic to be part of that 10%, seeing the other 90% freeload off my effort would be enough to stop me

[Anonymous No.50919757]

Are you me?

[Anonymous No.50920182]

>>50917536
>daily standup
Yeah I call bullshit on this. No fucking way this is a thing.

[Anonymous No.50920647]

>>50920182
They just ask, they don’t check. All you have to do is dump some work at the end of sprints and move to the next

[Anonymous No.50920845]

>>50918936
Should have found a big bunda babe to keep you entretained.
>>50917536
Modern jobs are just adult daycare. Technology has come so far that only 10% of workers produce everything that we need "need". The rest of jobs are just busywork to keep us occupied.

[Anonymous No.50921376]

>>50917605
Based.

Seethe neets.

I make $135k, drive a company vehicle, have other fringe financial benefits, free insurance and 3 weeks paid vacation.

Vacation that I never actually use because I do FUCKING NOTHING

take your NEET chump change and shove it up your ass faggits.

[Anonymous No.50921567]

>>50917536
Where the fuck do you find these awesome jobs?

[Anonymous No.50921690]

>>50919324
The money is what keeps me going. When lazy wagies scream about muh food prices, muh gas and whatnot, I wouldnt give a shit if those prices tripled tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.50921737]

>>50917536
I did WFH for 5 years and absolutely hated it by the time I left that job. Trying to appear busy became harder work than actually having a meaningful job where I was busy.
It isn't really sustainable, but companies can either do that or have no workers.

[Anonymous No.50922057]

>>50921567
I work in computer security, 7 years now.

[Anonymous No.50922149]

>>50917536
remote SWE here with $150k salary
still live with my parents so basically just pocket every paycheck
>>50918084
>Occasionally something breaks and we patch it up like half assed retards with minimal effort.
This is basically my entire job.
Sometimes I need to make up stuff to look busy.

[Anonymous No.50922262]

>>50920182
It's real I had one at my last job

[Anonymous No.50922405]

>>50918084
kek well said anon. what is the picrel? it stirred something in me if you know what i mean

[Anonymous No.50922704]

>>50922405
>not knowing mandelbrot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benoit_Mandelbrot

[Anonymous No.50923261]

>>50917564
literally me, just learn to code bro

[Anonymous No.50924540]

>>50917536
are you me? I actually do work.. just giving the appearance of efficiency is enough to provide value to the customer. Think about it. Work on your own shit on the side.
t. codes games during meetings

[Anonymous No.50924769]

>be me
>wfh tech sales
>no education or certs
>bullshit on the phone and automate most of my sales process like emails/demo bookings etc
>just hold a few demos and send contracts
>get paid when someone signs
>currently spending most of my time getting aws certs and self teaching myself about cloud
>ceo doesnt know because i produce, probably wouldnt care if he found out
>always the face of the deal both client side and internally. if i leave shit hits the fan on both ends
sales chads cant stop winning. we do even less than swe kek

[Anonymous No.50924805]

>>50917536
what job? im trying to get in on this. i cant code.

[Anonymous No.50924988]

>>50924769
Hello fellow commercial chad. Similar setup for me at a biotech. Land the contracts, get the praise. Shit falls through? That's on operations or product. Got a recruiter bugging me about AWS but don't know their rep (as a workplace).

[Anonymous No.50925052]

>>50917605
how do you set up your linkedin to get people asking for interview? i have just joined into that, even tho I got kind of outstanding results, I cant really figure out how to get people see my page

[Anonymous No.50925129]

>>50917536
>be me
>also working from home
>do nothing put shitpost all day
>even uninstalled the zoom software
>make €200k a year
>they keep calling me from work, but I don't answer
>last time they send somebody from the company to my home to check on me
>told them to beat it or else
Going to get a pedicure now, there are still koreans cleaning feet so I'm going there.

[Anonymous No.50925169]

>be me
>WFH due to the COVID lockdowns
>Don't do anything all day
>Crypto mooning
>Life's good
>"Y'all gotta come back to the office now"
>Tell them it is irresponsible because COVID
>They tell me I should have gotten my jabs
>They got me snookered
>Been back in the office for a year or so now
>Crypto crashed, poor again
>Life goes on

[Anonymous No.50925213]

>>50917536
no one is doing shit, has been like this for a long time even before scamdemic and wfh. people in the offices are just circlejerking in useless meetings and coffee breaks anyway.
since wfh people have stopped even pretending, managers are in on it, nobody cares.
take care of yourself and enjoy the ride

[Jealous No.50925222]

>>50917536
>wiggling my mouse to stay active in teams
>not using jiggler.exe

[Anonymous No.50925242]

>>50917536
Real genius--civilization foundational genius--real genius not clever kikery--universe altering genius:

Is instinctive.

And those instincts only come alive when every fiber of your being is aware of how precarious life is. How you are only a few misteps away from extinction.

When the collapse begins and survival is no longer a given, the men of history will awaken.

[Anonymous No.50925259]

>>50925222
>using jiggler.exe
opening up an attack surface that can be used to get rid of you if shtf
just put something on the spacebar like everyone else and stop leaving compromising evidence in your memory dumps

[Anonymous No.50925290]

>>50925259
also if you must, at least use (((power automate desktop))) or some obscure ahk scripts and not a literal jiggler.exe

[Anonymous No.50925325]

>>50917884
Not senior, just working corporate job. Ecommerce sounds like web scripting languages. Over saturated and not a lot of money (unless you work at a big agency or inhouse at profitable webshop). 60k for senior is nothing? You can make that at the government with 5 YOE.

[Anonymous No.50925338]

bros i shit you not. ~200k wfh crypto
of all things i got last bull run, this was the best

[Anonymous No.50925354]

>>50925052
You need some experience. Lots of connections. Just spam everyone with requests. Put software engineer in your title, add some skills and randomly rate other people their skills or your coworkers and they will feel inclined to rate yours (cringe but it's how it's done). Set your status to open to work but without the profile pic and without noticing people at your current company (it's a setting). Literally bathe in recruiter spam

[Anonymous No.50925438]

Tired of project managers who are not able to utilize the most basic principles of project work
-what are we building?
-who are we building for?
-who else (in some of our other divisions) are fucking around in the same area?

we're fucking managing 4200 km of tracks, and have almost one pencil pusher employed per km.

[Anonymous No.50925550]

It's becoming clear that IT niggers are the new aristocrat class and most of the positions are not needed but are just a way of paying subhumans to have loyalty to (((their))) system. Enjoy it while it lasts, niggers.

[Anonymous No.50925645]

>>50925259
>>50925290
>not using an app whose function is to disable your screen saver for totally legitimate reasons

[Anonymous No.50925715]

>>50924769
>automate most of my sales process like emails/demo bookings etc
How do I into email automation for sales?

[Anonymous No.50925822]

>>50924988
>Shit falls through? That's on operations or product
kek thats exactly what I do

>>50925715
Find a tool for email sequencing. I use Groove.

Then set up email cadences based on certain parameters like demo requests or just cold out reach. Drop people into these lists. Done. Sends off emails automatically that I've pre-written

[Anonymous No.50925848]

>>50925822
Thanks, do you do this on your work computer? Does it have Outlook and/or CRM integration?

[Anonymous No.50925853]

>>50917605
I grad cs and I know cs grads that never got employed. It depends if cs degree is from t13 school else connections. if not that then do med school

[Anonymous No.50925882]

>>50920182
>>50917536
>daily
>stand
>up

that sounds gay.

[Anonymous No.50925915]

>>50920182
It's called either agile or scrum, daily stand ups are common. Mostly it's the same shit everyday.

[Anonymous No.50926010]

>>50917536
>making up stories to tell in the daily standup
I need examples please do the needful

[Anonymous No.50926027]

I do this exact same thing but I only have 2 weekly standups and I barely have anything to say I’m working on during our standups. We have a team autist that does 90% of our teams work so he immediately jumps on every ticket and doesn’t leave enough work for others. Makes me slightly worried I won’t learn anything to be able to use when I job hop.

[Anonymous No.50926099]

>>50925848
Yea on my pc. Integrates with SFDC. Not sure what other CRM's. Just look up email sequencing theres tons

[Anonymous No.50926239]

>>50924988
>Got a recruiter bugging me about AWS but don't know their rep (as a workplace).
Don't do it they are slave drivers, the only reason ever to work for AWS is if you are absolutely obsessed with the smell of curry powder and are a masochistic workaholic

[Anonymous No.50926283]

>>50925550
Part of it is that there is a certain percentage of people with analytical minds who are a potential threat to the system, so the system offers cushy jobs everyone capable of passing certain types of tests such as meme programming interview questions. It costs the system nothing because money is fake anyways and it keeps people capable of potentially dangerous rebellion safely stuck in their own houses jacking off to anime all day

[Anonymous No.50926299]

>>50917536
The few productive carry the dead weight until they burn out and quit and find better jobs and the project burns into ash.

[Anonymous No.50926335]

>>50918841
nah man you can code like an autist for 10h a day mon - fri in your teens and early twenties to git gud and still go out and meet people and drink and have relationships three nights a week
Imagine all the hours you spent playing call of battlefield or whatever the fuck you did when you were 15 and apply it to something useful

[Anonymous No.50926429]

>>50922149
You don't get paid to write code as a SWE. Sometimes you have too, but not always.
You're being paid for your domain knowledge and specific knowledge of their system in particular, which gives you the ability to keep it running. So you're "not doing anything all day" much in the same sense that a night guard "doesn't do anything all night" -

[Anonymous No.50926436]

>>50924769
Im doing cold calls wfh and I’m so bored. End up just playing Minecraft. Tips for actually making sales with minimal effort ?

[Anonymous No.50926665]

>>50917536
>wfh, 120k
>daily standup every day is listening to boomer ramblings about medical drama for 30 minutes
>any desire to write code immediately evaporates

I pushed two lines of code the last sprint and got praised for it. That'll be $3500, please.

[Anonymous No.50926970]

Did any of you 6fig wfh SWE chads get there without a CS degree?
I have a mechanical engineering degree and work from home but my pay is dogshit. I do literally nothing all day long so I've gotten decent at Python/SQL and want to turn this into a career (NOT webdev)
Really don't want to get another degree or pay for a bootcamp, despite the networking benefits

[Anonymous No.50926994]

>>50917536
This happened to me out of college. Used the extra time to learn some software development which helped for the next rotation.

[Anonymous No.50927157]

>>50917564
I've had these jobs, and sometimes it really is that chill. However, they come with busy periods where you are working all day as you said.
That's not the problem though.
The problem with jobs is that you have to get up at the same time everyday. It doesn't matter to me how chill the job is. Having to wake up on a schedule and attend a daily standup that you can't skip ruins my life. Same with having other people giving you deadlines and telling you what to do.
It's just not worth it. Make your own software instead.

[Anonymous No.50927252]

>>50918084
It's funny how fractals resemble a juicy pair of ass and/or tits, life is beautiful.

[Anonymous No.50927436]

>>50926970
music degree, wfh developer, six figs

worked on personal projects to get skills, yelled at my superiors at my blue collar wagie job about what we should be doing w our data. got the opportunity, established myself w hard work, settled into comfy routine. many dummies in corporate, so v easy to provide value even if i am mega lazy

[Anonymous No.50927512]

>>50927436
>worked on personal projects to get skills
Were they work-related or fully independent? This is the part I'm a bit worried about, coming up with projects that aren't tutorial based

[Anonymous No.50928032]

>be me
>go from social work 70k AUD a year with a bunch of stress, bullshit and SJW retards/gender stuff
>government job despite hating the government
>120k a year to answer phones, send a couple emails and do some paper work
>probably 1 hr of actual work per day
>7 hours of YouTube, podcasts, audio books, researching history, philosophy and theology

I cannot believe I am getting paid for this, I feel like I am scamming someone

[Anonymous No.50928162]

>>50917536
Literally nobody works, everyone is doing this OP. Most of our "jobs" aren't real jobs, they're just a fucking stage play to keep us stressed, demotivated, and constantly generated tax revenue. Automation has created so many efficiencies and are more reliable than the average "college graduate" that there's really no point in so many positions.

Don't overthink it. If you're in danger of being fired over not putting up a good enough appearance you'd know. But if you've never had a negative performance review or whatever (doesn't sound like it cause you're getting promotions) then it's fine. The promotions and raises are for show as well by the way, inflation is designed to level those out but they feel psychologically like you're progressing. Same concept as RPGs use for their level up systems, it's a very easy reward pathway in the brain to manipulate. It's just more apparent how pointless grinding at a job is compared to grinding in some orc fields because at least you know you can put the game down and take an extended break with no repercussions if you ever get tired.

[Anonymous No.50928173]

>>50925242
based

[Anonymous No.50928837]

>>50920182
It's real, u just say what you've been doing. I'm in r&d at a hft firm managing 9 figures. It's a small team and I can't tell you how often people say "yeah I didn't really do anything" to which the cto basically says "aight coo"

[Anonymous No.50929142]

>>50928162
Damn dude well said

[Anonymous No.50929173]

>>50917536
I'm in a similar situation wondering if this is normal

[Anonymous No.50929214]

>>50926010
Overexaggerate the shit you did, if you wrote one line of code the whole day say you debugged the code and spent the whole day searching for a complex bug. Or just say you had environment issues and your solution wouldn't run because it didn't download from repo correctly or something, I just cycle between different excuses and spend most of my days in a haze shitposting on 4chan and playing vidya.

[Anonymous No.50929343]

contractor, team just started adding me to meetings and their internal drama. It's over

[Anonymous No.50929469]

>>50922405
Just representing the macro/micro idea and parallels of collapsing companies and collapsing societies.

[Anonymous No.50929657]

>>50927512
a mix. for work, pushed excel to the limits then learned pandas when excel couldnt do it anymore.

for personal projects, followed flask microblog tutorial but used it to make a subscription website for an audio thing i do.

recommend building off a hobby. since youre here, binance, kucoin, etc have python api. make a shitty trading bot that you feed small amounts of $. or better yet, algorand has killer python sdk. algofi, tinyman, many of the algorand projects have python sdk as well. can learn a lot setting up a personal defi limit order server, arbitrage some STBL/USDC via an algorithm, whatever. even if your trading strategy is basic, just building it is great practice.

[Anonymous No.50929683]

>>50917536
>wiggling my mouse to stay active in teams
he doesn't know about notepad

[Anonymous No.50929716]

My fucking boss is trying to get me to go to the cuck cagie at the office. We are officially "hybrid", and I managed to usually go only once a week but now he is trying to pressure me into going twice. I used an excuse that I have bad knee in the past but it's not working anymore cause it's been like 2 months.

What do I do, frens? I hate being in the office and talking to people so much but I'm running out of excuses and I feel like he might give me shit reviews on my eval if I keep telling him to gtfo with his office. I already go once a week, is it not enough?

[Anonymous No.50929722]

>>50917536

80% of the work is done by 20% of the people. that's true everywhere

[Anonymous No.50930060]

>>50917536
What is "the sprint"?

t. Tradefag

[Anonymous No.50930504]

>>50929716
>"Sorry, I actually just moved to Pennsylvania so can't come in anymore

And if you actually live there then I'd just kill myself if I were you.

[Anonymous No.50930581]

>>50917536
Tech is in the biggest 'bullshit bubble' ever. So many people are doing nothing WFH, myself included. I just hope this house of cards doesn't collapse before I bail out.
t. Engineering manager 180k AUD base

[Anonymous No.50930676]

>>50930504
I don't mind going in once a week, not twice. If I tell them I'm 100% wfh now, my boss will 100% sperg all over my evaluation.

[Anonymous No.50931296]

I FUCKING HATE ALL OF YOU WORK FROM HOME FAGGOTS I HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE IN A USELESS FIELD AND THE ONLY JOB I CAN GET IS AT BURGER KING I SPEND ALL MY WAGES ON RENT AND I CANT AFFORD FOOD AND EAT OUT OF THE WORK DUMPSTER WHEN I TAKE THE GARBAGE OUT AT THE END OF THE NIGHT I FUCKING HATE THIS LIFE

[Anonymous No.50932620]

>>50930060
basically a project phase or deadline in meme methodology
originally coming from software development, helping ordering and planning smaller features and tasks, but nowadays forcefully applied to anything for no reason but to hire more (((scrum masters))) and (((agile coaches))) and shit

[Anonymous No.50933658]

>>50930581
people say crypto is in a bubble when the actual bubble is all the bs that exists in the regular world with everybody pretending that their jobs are actually important and somebody off the street couldnt do exactly the same things as they do

[Anonymous No.50934144]

>>50917536
>wiggling my mouse to stay active in teams
This hit a little too close to home

[Anonymous No.50934379]

working from home in a design role. I’m responsible for creating one document a week and occasionally chiming in on git issues using buzzy in-group lingo like “wayfinding” and “journey mapping”

constantly get praised for my “insight” and “contributions”

actually spend 80% of my day embroidering and crocheting, working on a craft which brings me great joy, doing yoga, day trading, leaving midday to go for a walk

sometimes I think about getting a second job and doubling my income but life is too damned cozy

[Anonymous No.50935327]

>>50934379
Holy shit this might be a real woman

[Anonymous No.50936853]

>>50917536

It is called the imposter syndrome Anon. I figure out when doing a consulting for a multinational company. It is finally is pyramid squeme of people wondering if the anyone knows they are an impostor, because believe they do not do anything or either do not know enough for their position and salary.

Just few people do the job at the end. Sometimes outsourced.

It is possible to profit from this knowledge.

>>50925354
This is the way

[Anonymous No.50937786]

>>50929716
Just don’t go and look for a new WFH job

[Anonymous No.50938158]

>>50919097
https://everything-voluntary.com/sociopaths-clueless-losers
This is a good read regarding the subject of people in the workplace.

[Anonymous No.50938205]

>>50926436
You have 2 choices anon. Find a spot where you don't cold call (almost impossible) or make your calls in the first 2 hours and be done with it the rest of the day like me

[Anonymous No.50938496]

>>50928032
>I feel like I am scamming someone
Because you are. You're scamming the taxpayer.
But I'm happy for you, anon.

[Anonymous No.50939622]

I need a job like this anons. I'm desperate beyond belief and I've given up hope. Any tips for someone with little work experience (aside from food service)?

[Anonymous No.50939836]

>>50917536
that’s literally what everybody in my bureau does
sometimes i even catch some people watching series or play video games
there is only a few hyper productive autists who do everything
so wfh has zero impact of how much gets done
and thats in a field where things actually matter
i can’t even imagine how it looks in the government field

[Anonymous No.50942615]

>>50917536
anybody in the mechanical engineering field have any luck finding a remote work job? i'm looking to leave my in-office job to do the same shit with the hassle of commute, maintaining an appearance, obnoxious office background noise, and not being able to do what i want to do

[Anonymous No.50942638]

>>50942615
without*

[Anonymous No.50942699]

>>50942615
If you have Revit or CAD experience, look for a MEP design firm. We wfh twice a week, and some people more than that. Flexible since all you need is a computer, but you may have to visit a site every once in a while.

[Anonymous No.50942816]

>>50939836
I went to the grocery store a few weeks ago to purchase groceries. It was a young manager or in 30s or so in the customer area. He was on the main PC. Browsing and chatting on Facebook. maybe it was for work (I don't think so...) here I am, work as a slave for creative jobs but I have to claw for work because the only thing I don't have is that I suck at talking to people. The 80/20 rule I am starting to believe in. It even happened to me in university when I did nearly all of the work in the group projects and I had to delegate the group members or else they weren't doing any work (but at least they liked me after they realized maybe my social skills not so good but good at being equal and kind with them when it came to work).

[Anonymous No.50942873]

>>50917536
It's called living a lie, and you're doing a fantastic job of it. Whether you're okay with that I guess is up to you.

[Anonymous No.50942951]

>>50942699
thank you

[Anonymous No.50945233]

>>50942816
kek