/XMR/ Monero General

[Anonymous No.50910958]

Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptos. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier of entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward will gradually approach 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://youtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
My Monero
Exodus
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

[Anonymous No.50910980]

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>50875168

[Anonymous No.50910983]

Let’s play poker.

[Anonymous No.50910985]

based pic

[Anonymous No.50911001]

START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
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>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't; It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png

P2Pool-compatible remote nodes if you do not have your own local copy of the blockchain:

>p2pmd.xmrvsbeast.com - (Western Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)
>myxmr.net - (Northern Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)

OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend only on your hashrate, not on the pool's hashrate.

https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

[Anonymous No.50911017]

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

[Anonymous No.50911036]

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (currently US only)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors

>AlphaBay
>Asur Market
>Chimera Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
>Cloud Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
>Darkmoon (recently launched, exercise caution)
>FilthyFellas
>Mellow Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
>Retro Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
Onion links: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/8fg2g


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Kilos
>Majestic Bank
>Elude
>Infinity Project
https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/8cunb


>Poker Club: play no-limit Texas Hold'em in real time with 2-8 players over the safety of Tor with the privacy of Monero! No user account required.
http://pokerggxmrvzecuo6afhucjwdljuve5eoavxdxdr6zedyejd6mvz5wad.onion

>XMR Poker
http://xmrpoker3icphjr7c6dgct3by44ph4xvxrds4jzwjkjh7h2owdf6icyd.onion


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://magicgrants.org/funds/monero/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

[Anonymous No.50911049]

>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

[Anonymous No.50911063]

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

[Anonymous No.50911066]

[Anonymous No.50911077]

>>50910985
>based pic

credit goes to bawdyanarchist for the original concept and design

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.50911141]

Reporting in
##################################
IRC- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/tzm4s
Aliases- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjbx3
Extras- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/daxte
Nodes- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/ke2k8
Mining- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/c7na4

https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/h44oo

[Anonymous No.50911263]

>Trusted technology, growing adoption

Zcash was launched by one of the most respected technical teams in the world.

Zcash is the 'https of blockchains,' protecting your freedom to save and spend as you like.

Zcash was the first project to implement zk-SNARKs, a novel form of zero-knowledge cryptography that gives its users the strongest privacy available in any digital currency.

Multiple, independent organizations are funded to innovate on Zcash.

Zcash is already available on top exchanges, digital wallets and a growing number of applications.

[Anonymous No.50911284]

This is what shitscared Monero chuds don't want you to know.

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

[Anonymous No.50911310]

I like monero-chan

[Anonymous No.50911312]

AHAHAHAHAHAHA
>INB4
>MUH UTILITY
>PAID SHILL
>FED
>FUD
>HAVE FUN STAYING POOR
>2 MORE WEEKS
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.50911332]

Reminder that Zcash looks to the future while Monero remains stuck in the past.

[Anonymous No.50911369]

>>50911312
>thinks we're in this for a moonshot

[Anonymous No.50911592]

I'll post here also to continue the topic:

>>50909353
>>50909446
Speaking of Seraphis, the extent to which the tech can achieve with ring sizes is as not as a limited amount of decoys, but could have ALL transactions as decoys. Thus having such plethora of decoys would effectively mean that any attempt of tracing would be futile.
I don't think it'll reach that extent, since it's not really feasible to implement without bloat and zk-SNARKs would probably be battle-tested and ready to be deployed by that point. Like you said on that time horizon.

[Anonymous No.50911599]

>>50911332
>>50911312
>>50911284
>>50911263
look at the seethe lmao.
MONERO IS THE ONLY ACTUAL CRYPTOCURRENCY USED AS MONEY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbcswPFQLy0

[WSB No.50911631]

VLTRA MAGA militia Slurper 1st division coming for Monero and xerpies.

Better guide them into XMR-chan.
Make Monero scary again!

[Anonymous No.50911664]

>>50910958
Nice meme
>copying copying coping *privately in my zcash coop building

[Anonymous No.50911864]

>>50911592

At ring size 128 you'd need exclusive and sustained control over something like 99% of ALL outputs to glean insight on just 0.1% of rings, Seraphis basically = GAME OVER for adversaries, not that they currently have a reasonable chance of cracking ring sigs either.

So its smooth sailing until we jump ship to SNARKs/STARKs/whatever.

Sorry, Z-cucks, there will be no flipping of XMR after all.

[Anonymous No.50911953]

>>50911864

Cope. Zcash will flip Monero within the next 2 years, screenshoot this.

[Anonymous No.50911959]

Happy Quinze Aout, /XMR/. Am I buying tonight or is it dumping hard tomorrow??

[Anonymous No.50912026]

>>50911312
>buy high sell low

[Anonymous No.50912035]

>>50911864
Over 128 ring sigs are not needed then, as it would be more a con than a pro. Before moving on to SNARKs anyway.
Thanks for the clarification OP, Monero has already won. It's that simple.

[Anonymous No.50912102]

>>50912035

Seth briefly discusses it here: https://youtu.be/Oy2zkzw9MYk?t=1043

[Hodlin Caulfield No.50912109]

[Anonymous No.50912154]

>>50910958
Cope and seeth Monero cucks. Monero will soon be sanctioned and all your liquidity will be dried up.
ZCash is the future.

[Anonymous No.50912186]

>>50911953
Zcucks can't meme, holy shit.
How dare you steal our memes

[Anonymous No.50912218]

>>50912154

Kek some people just gotta learn the hard way.

[Anonymous No.50912264]

>>50912186

Zchads take what they want. Better get used to it.

[Anonymous No.50912293]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KSD7oN_QIME
>less than 100 views
>1 comment
>It's Mental Outlaw saying it's too based for YouTube
So comfy

[Anonymous No.50912325]

Also, can the mods do something about this blatant off-topic shill spam?

[Anonymous No.50912335]

Reminder.

[Anonymous No.50912356]

>>50912102
He also spoke of Tornado and mentioned it had a dev tax and as such qualifies as service (eg. Money L. Service)
This is literally what Ztrash™ had and thus can be banned under the same premise.
>mfw realizing this
Zcucks can't catch a break.

[Anonymous No.50912539]

>>50911332
>Reminder that Zcash looks to the future while Monero remains stuck in the past.
Go creaze an zcash thread, zucker.

[Anonymous No.50913126]

Hi I'm a beginner n00b here so forgive my retarded question but

What is the point of asking for KYC when buying monero? It is private right? It is not public
>I buy monero with x adress with kyc
>I send monero from x to y adress anonymously
>monero on y has no visible connection to kyc related x address
Am I missing something? Like what is the fucking point?

[Anonymous No.50913179]

>>50912264
>>50912154
>>50911953
>>50911332
>>50911263
Never forget that Ztrannies love to get back-doored by the Feds so they can make money while fooling you about privacy.

https://blockonomi.com/zcash-backdoor/

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.50914200]

fuck, that's hot.

[Anonymous No.50914206]

Fuck you fed faggot larpers.

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.50914217]

>>50913126
you are less likely/less able to fuck the guy over by initiating a chargeback if they have your KYC since they could prove your card/account wasn't hacked when the purchase was made.

doing it for crypto -> XMR is ridiculous though.

[Anonymous No.50914449]

>>50914217
well that is not something I'm worried about, don't want to scam people
thanks for the response

kyc monero seems weird, useless

[Anonymous No.50914766]

>>50913126
It proves that you've converted some of your assets to XMR at a certain point in time. That knowledge alone can be a liability in a "crap hits the fan" scenario where you don't want any public record of you buying or selling XMR.

[Anonymous No.50914772]

>>50914766
I just hate KYC because I don't want some shitty website based on seychelles to have my id information thats it.
I have no qualms with declaring I bought or sold, call me a taxcuck but yeah.

my only desire for non kyc comes from my fear of id theft.

[Anonymous No.50914819]

>>50911332
>>50911953
Based Monerochad larping and making newfags give (you)s.

[Anonymous No.50914837]

Morning, brothers.

[Anonymous No.50914843]

>>50914772
>I have no qualms with declaring I bought or sold, call me a taxcuck but yeah.
Yeah, but you wouldn't want your name associated with XMR in the public record when the time comes that your state outlaws it. It might sound stupid but never discount nation-states to do something stupid.

[Anonymous No.50914863]

Can one still find roads made of silk where you use xmr? Asking for a friend. A simple yes or no will suffice, but wants to know before searching inb4 glow, yes that's a yes or no answer is fine

[Anonymous No.50914880]

>>50914863
>>50911036

[Anonymous No.50914897]

>>50914843
im a pajeet 3rdie shitskin whose government cannot even collect 1/10 of the tax it supposed to. I still pay all my taxes just in case.
irs/being afraid of taxman is a solely american meme, in rest of the world taxes are either automatic or everyone doges it. Even in europe
see greece and peoples tax evasion there

[Anonymous No.50914907]

>>50914897
I'm not talking about taxes but going through no KYC helps with that as well.

[Anonymous No.50914932]

>>50914907
yeah thats true but methinks govmen would go after many other shit before going after my coins I bought with my monthly 500usd salary

[Anonymous No.50914952]

>>50914932
>methinks govmen would go after many other shit before going after my coins
Yes, but I think there's no harm in taking precautionary measures. I live in a part of the world where crypto is in a legal gray area but I don't want to take any chances if my state suddenly turns around and goes the way of CBDCs.

[Anonymous No.50914957]

https://stormer-daily.rw/daily-stormer-back-at-3-million-monthly-unique-viewers/

[Anonymous No.50915332]

swappers having issues.
can't swap busd/bsc with simpleswap, and picrel.

[Anonymous No.50915626]

The Jews fear XMR. Every time you buy XMR, the Jew screams in pain. The nosy Jew wanders what you have in your want -- he wants to know but he can't. Do NOT let the glow in the dark Jew what you have, stack your XMR. Jews have been kicked out of 108 countries because they're nosey little fucks.

[Anonymous No.50915654]

>>50914957
>remove jewish central banking and replace it with white central banking
hard pass

[Anonymous No.50915715]

>>50915654
What the fuck are you talking about, dumbcunt? Andrew Anglin is one of the biggest supporters of XMR. The donations are Monero only.

https://stormer-daily.rw/support-the-daily-stormer-how-to-buy-and-send-monero/

[Anonymous No.50915736]

>>50915626
Fuck off, kike.

[Anonymous No.50915799]

Is it worth mining monero?

[Anonymous No.50916138]

>>50915626
109, not 108

[Anonymous No.50916153]

>>50915799
I've been doing it for awhile to support the network, but I don't pay the electricity bill so your mileage may vary

[Anonymous No.50916195]

>>50916138
The truth is that the number is well over 1030.

[kim No.50916254]

ah herro, i am trying to build nucrear icbm would you recommend monero?

[Anonymous No.50916396]

>>50915715
>2 hours of 4chan for you or we will set your credit score to 0.
Cognitive dissonance
https://stormer-daily.rw/george-soros-announces-that-xi-jinping-is-the-worlds-greatest-threat/

XMR exist so i can buy whatever the fuck i want whenever the fuck i want it. And no one can make a law saying i cannot.

[Anonymous No.50916450]

>>50916396
I was always bothered by how Andrew Angling shills for China. I understand his logic, but the enemy of your enemy is not always your friend

[Anonymous No.50916478]

>>50915715
>Free market is when the government does stuff
He doesnt even know what he is talking about
https://stormer-daily.rw/our-corporate-overlords-and-their-politics/
I will say that I had trouble finding monetary articles since all he rambles about is jews and vaccines.

[Anonymous No.50916493]

>>50916450
He believes in contradictions
On one sentence he doesn't wants to eat the bugs and live in a pod and in the next sentence he wants to brick everyone's combustion engines and live in mud huts.

[Anonymous No.50916577]

>>50915715
Ah here it is. Exactly what I was looking for
https://stormer-daily.rw/adolf-hitler-icon-of-our-struggle/
https://stormer-daily.rw/hitlers-mein-kampf-a-bestseller-in-germany/
Hitler created one of the biggest welfare states in the world and funded it by printing marks and then forcing conquered nations to take marks at point of gun. Exactly what XMR is supposed to fight.
This retard cannot string 2 thoughts together.
Most of the articles are mainstream anyways with the "edginess" of /pol/

[Anonymous No.50916961]

>>50912293
>It's Mental Outlaw saying it's too based for YouTube
based! and he is right https://odysee.com/@cryptoanarchy:2/monero-millionero:a?lid=298e23142552677cba73337927c90b80453e21f5

[Anonymous No.50917296]

Why is there STILL no non-P2P, non-KYC/AML way to get Monero?

When tf is Haveno going to resume their development?

[Anonymous No.50917627]

>>50917296
Serai looks a lot better than the Haveno dumpster fire.

[Anonymous No.50917671]

>>50915799
not profitable in the short term if that's what you're asking. Worth it if you want to support the network.

[Anonymous No.50917787]

>>50917296
unstoppableswap dot net

[Anonymous No.50917822]

>>50916577
Anglin is based and fuck you if you don't agree

[Anonymous No.50917842]

>not even 10k transactions
it's fucking dead

[Anonymous No.50917959]

>>50917627
When will serai be live?
>>50917787
Not really helpful because I want fiat to monero, not bitcoin to monero.

[Anonymous No.50918274]

>>50916396
>>50916478
>>50916493
>>50916577
What's your point. It's impossible to agree with someone 100%. In the Schmittian friend/enemy he is a friend.

[Anonymous No.50919216]

[Anonymous No.50920292]

>>50915626
>Every time you buy XMR, the Jew screams in pain.
they know we know gresham's law and the cantillion effect.

[Anonymous No.50920432]

changenow still having issues

[Anonymous No.50920445]

Safest way to obscure my digital ruppees movements when withdrawing from a cex monero Chad's?

Cex to usdt convert to xmr, send that xmr to second wallet then convert to needful ruppees for investor sers?

[Anonymous No.50920515]

>>50920445
>needful ruppees for investor
>investor
the whole game nowadays is to beat inflation. the central bank and tax authorities are in the way.

[Anonymous No.50921154]

The squiggers winning has never felt so right.

[Anonymous No.50921158]

>>50920432
Translation: liquidity shortage.

[Anonymous No.50921178]

Can't post that on a conservative Monero thread!

[Anonymous No.50921342]

>>50920432
>Funds are safu

[Anonymous No.50921452]

Superior tech always wins in the long run.

[Anonymous No.50921521]

>>50921452

Indeed, thanks for beta-testing it for us.

[Anonymous No.50921528]

>>50917822
>Central banking is based
>1pbti

[Anonymous No.50921628]

>>50921521

You ain't getting shit from us.

[Anonymous No.50921666]

>>50921628

What is FOSS, midwit?

[Anonymous No.50921826]

>>50921666

What is licensing, nimrod? Fuck around and find out.

[Anonymous No.50921827]

>>50911001
can i have please bottom left pic thank you!

[Anonymous No.50921929]

>>50910958
yes

[Anonymous No.50921938]

>>50921827

[Anonymous No.50921942]

>>50921826

The exclusivity clause expires next year, genius. Thanks again!

[Anonymous No.50921943]

>>50917959
Are you retarded? You didn't mention fiat at all in your previous post. Use bisq then

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.50921946]

>>50921827
here

[Anonymous No.50921958]

>>50920432
Change now fucking blows. I used them once and it took 6 hours for a swap. Never again.

[Anonymous No.50921967]

>>50921827
without flair

[Anonymous No.50921972]

>>50921946
god bless you anon, thank.

[Anonymous No.50922102]

>>50921938
>>50921967
also thank

[Anonymous No.50922230]

>>50911063
>hrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

Fantastic point

BTC is NOT bitcoin. BSV is the real one and solves the scaling issue.
In BSV more transactions mean more miner reward because big blocks was how it was designed to work.

That said all the Bitcoin forks TRACK EVERYTHING.

BTC doesn't even work without a 3rd Party

XMR>BSV>BTC

[Anonymous No.50922372]

>>50922230
>BSV
Oh you mean the Bitcoin shitfork made by none other than Craig "Liar Liar pants on fire" Wright himself? The same guy who has been given many opportunities across many years to simply sign something with his (purported) Satoshi wallets and prove he is satoshi, but for some reason simply is incapable of doing so???
The Same Craig Wright who stated he would prove ownership of the satoshi wallets if he won a massive court case, who then won that court case and still has not proven ownership????
That guy?

[Anonymous No.50922645]

>>50922372
Honestly is there other crypto outside of xmr that doesn't have scam artists in charge?
BTC people are pants on head retarded. My mind cannot comprehend the level of bullshit fuckery those people are on.
ETH has Vitali which.. my God does he promise some unreal shit.
The cardano guy was that retard with "we make money for Africa with the right amount of privacy(read none)" right?

[Anonymous No.50922681]

>>50922645
even monero has scammers, they're just scamming FOR the monero, not using monero as the scam.

[Anonymous No.50922870]

>>50922681
I guess the haveno "devs" but other than that?
Scaming corporate with ransomware is based tho.

[Anonymous No.50922882]

Been away for a few months, I heard there's been a network update (hard fork?)
What do I need to do to keep using my Monero smoothly?
Thanks guys

[Anonymous No.50923030]

Is waiting for the "spendable funds" message to disappear sufficient or should I wait longer for anonymity?

[Anonymous No.50923110]

>>50923030

The longer you wait the greater the entropy.

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.50923612]

I hope Monerochads like black pepper, citrus and lavender.

I am going to delight your olfactory senses in due time.

[Anonymous No.50924592]

>>50923612

Go on....

[Anonymous No.50924680]

The ring signature decoys come from outgoing transactions, right? Meaning if I send my monero to a cold wallet for example, and that cold wallet will have no outgoing transactions, that necessarily means that the RECIPIENT wallet (the cold wallet) cannot be used in a ring signature until I send monero out of it, correct?

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.50924747]

>try to add pgp key to moneromarket.io
>"This form is invalid"

okay.

>>50924592
Saying isn't doing, but I at least wanted to tease that I'm making something for monerochads.

[Anonymous No.50924833]

>>50910958
DALL E

[Anonymous No.50924945]

https://monero.pm/monerochan/
>bad gateway
fix this plz

[Anonymous No.50925326]

>>50924945
works for me

[Anonymous No.50925393]

[Anonymous No.50925533]

>>50912154
>Cope and seethe monero cucka

[Anonymous No.50925609]

If it wasn't for the zfags shilling their shit coin no one on this board would know what it is. Now monero is as superior to Z-cash in privacy if not better kek

[Anonymous No.50926106]

>>50925609
Privacy on paper and privacy in practice are very different.

[Anonymous No.50926143]

>>50925609

Zcash leaks the sender's IP address

[Anonymous No.50926183]

Why does the XMR chart look like that of gold? Is this good or bad?

[Anonymous No.50926284]

>>50926183
Both are viciously suppressed by the US government for similar reasons. XMR/XAG/XAU is the currency basket of kings.

[Anonymous No.50926326]

>>50925393
Monero unabomber? Based but ironic.

[Anonymous No.50926339]

>>50926143

[Anonymous No.50926365]

>>50926284
>XMR/XAG/XAU is the currency basket of kings.

Based.

[Anonymous No.50926453]

>>50926326
Monero cyberpunk was the prompt for that one.
This one is Monero synthwave album cover.
Totally open to suggestions

[Anonymous No.50926471]

>tried to send monero to my wallet from tradeogre THREE times to three separate addresses
>tradeogre says sent successfully
>wallet empty
>did this before and it worked fine
what am i doing wrong what the FUCK

[Anonymous No.50926642]

>always used mymonero wallet
>someone shills me feather
>tried it
>really liked it
>created a new wallet on feather, noticed that the default seed is 16 words which I can't use to restore on mymonero
>sent some shekels there and everything worked as intended
>to be careful tried to use the alternative 25 words seed to restore in mymonero just to see if everything works too
>mymonero accepts the seed but shows zero balance

Does this means that I'll have to always use feather to restore my wallet? I want to choose which wallet and this faggotry is annoying me. Why do every wallet has a different seed format and one doesn't work with another.

[Anonymous No.50926649]

Droppin a new meme.
Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.50926687]

>>50926649
Add a satellite dish to the roof. Monero's not much good in the boonies without one.

[Anonymous No.50926700]

>>50921452
Look at this pajeet memery so reminiscent of the 2020-2021 pajeet dogcoin season

[Anonymous No.50926703]

>>50926471
not sure, works for me.

[Anonymous No.50926816]

>>50926642
I just tested it and both wallets create the same keys from the seed. Your MyMonero wallet is probably not synced.

[Anonymous No.50926928]

[Anonymous No.50927032]

>>50926816
Yes, they do. I checked too. Now I tried to import on monerujo (android) and it worked fine. Looks like it's a mymonero problem. Thanks, buddy.

[Anonymous No.50927043]

>>50924945
when you click fund?

[Anonymous No.50927277]

all right, last one for now

[Anonymous No.50927313]

>>50926106
Is that why 80% of ztards don't use zsnarks?

[Anonymous No.50927357]

>>50927313
No, that's because they're federal agents.

[Anonymous No.50927493]

>>50926471
might be the wallet. try with feather. as wallets have to find the tx's things can get wierd at times.

[Anonymous No.50927534]

>>50927032
Update: tried the web version of mymonero (which I didn't even knew that existed) and it didn't worked either. Feather, monerujo and cake seems fine.

[Anonymous No.50927737]

>>50926642
>Does this means that I'll have to always use feather to restore my wallet?
for now. the 16 word seed is known as polyseed, which will be in the gui when seraphis is done.
https://github.com/tevador/polyseed#features
>mymonero accepts the seed but shows zero balance
last time I tried mymonero, there was no place when restoring from seed to specify a restore height. one would need another wallet sw to send the balance to get mymonero to sync.

[Anonymous No.50927791]

>>50926453
>Monero cyberpunk was the prompt for that one.
I see. If you apply just Monero, does it identify the "M" or do you need to do it separately? Some are not apparent as the cyberpunk one is. They do look nice.
A few prompts suggestions:
>magic (or scary) internet money
>anonymous cocaine user
>Monero's citadel
>XMR gigachad
>XMR kills Bitcoin, the entire financial system or the jew's financial control

I don't know exactly how it works so it's probably best to include Monero or XMR for relevance.

[Anonymous No.50927838]

Been busy the last week, so working on monero.place has been a bit slow, but now I'm adding some local games and writing a few scripts for writing monero price & adoption charts to ANSI graphics.

[Anonymous No.50927872]

>>50927838
Add a hook for DOS Doors so you can play Legend of the Red Dragon.

[Anonymous No.50927986]

>>50927737
>for now. the 16 word seed is known as polyseed, which will be in the gui when seraphis is done.

if seraphis isn't done yet how is feather using this format already?
>last time I tried mymonero, there was no place when restoring from seed to specify a restore height
that's correct, I will stop using it and start using feather, seems like a more appropriate alternative.

[Anonymous No.50928124]

>>50927986
>if seraphis isn't done yet how is feather using this format already?
tobtoht is an xmr contributor, and one of the feather creators. as far as polyseed, it's him tevador.
> I will stop using it and start using feather
Yes. It is quite good and fast, and private. More features coming soon. https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/tobtoht-feather-dev-2022-1.html

[Anonymous No.50928137]

>>50928124
>it's him tevador.
him & tevador

[Anonymous No.50928437]

>>50924680
Also curious about this...

[Anonymous No.50928737]

>>50928124
>tobtoht is an xmr contributor, and one of the feather creators. as far as polyseed, it's him tevador.
sorry but I didn't get it. is polyseed a xmr thing only made by these two? are other xmr gradually change to accept this new format too?
also, nice to see their proposal fully funded even though I don't agree with some of the new features.

[Anonymous No.50928860]

Just saw this dude's profile, jfl

[Anonymous No.50928892]

>>50928737
I don't have the core dev list. tevador's main thing is randomx. It is really up to wallet makers if they want use polyseed. I use a trezor, so it cares less about what monero gui or feather offers. ledger also does things in their own way.

[Anonymous No.50929099]

>>50928892
one of my fears is using a exclusive seed from just one wallet softwares then some years later it shutdowns and I lose the access to the funds. what are the universal seed which I will always be sure to trust it? secret spend key?

[Anonymous No.50929129]

>>50928860
You tards learn anything from bancor?

[Anonymous No.50929149]

>>50926649
That sun is a pedo symbol

[Anonymous No.50929310]

I want to maek a zk based L2 on monerochan as a side project. Targeting cheap thinkpad as max hardware and bandwidth standard for a full node. Cellphone as light client.

Just push merkle roots and use monerochan as the relay. Have a recursive zk st/nark scheme.

Maybe someone more talented than me will like the attempt and help me make it actually good.

[Anonymous No.50929374]

>>50929099
checked. I assume it would be the 25 word phrase, best is copying the raw keys for now.
I was surprised that feather didn't offer to make a legacy phrase when building a new wallet. might be to steer newbies to the upcoming standard.

[Anonymous No.50929434]

>>50929374
>raw keys
by saying raw keys you mean the secret spend key?

[Anonymous No.50929451]

Exodus STILL hasn't updated their app for the hard fork. I'm frozen in place, anons.

[Anonymous No.50929549]

>>50929149
holy fuck, ur right

[Anonymous No.50929579]

>>50929310
Test

[Anonymous No.50929589]

>>50929434
>secret spend key?
yeah. and the secret view key. address too, though the address will change with seraphis.

[Anonymous No.50929642]

>>50929451
I'm frozen in place, anons.
you can still be liquid.
the three dots, then view private keys. enter password, get your shit. put in feather.

[Anonymous No.50929672]

MONERO is used by CHILD PORNOGRAPHERS, PEDOPHILES, AND CHILD RAPISTS.
https://www.tripwire.com/state-of-security/featured/cryptominers-next-generation/

MONERO is used by NORTH KOREA to fund DEATH CAMPS.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/02/11/844871/north-korea-cryptocurrency-mining-monero/
https://www.coindesk.com/north-korea-is-expanding-its-monero-mining-operations-says-report
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/10/what-is-monero-north-korea-new-favorite-cryptocurrency.html

MONERO is used by COCAINE, METH AND HEROIN MERCHANTS.
https://books.google.com/books?id=myTMDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA355

MONERO is used by TERRORISTS such as ISIS and AL QAEDA.
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR3000/RR3026/RAND_RR3026.pdf
https://thediplomat.com/2020/06/how-terrorists-use-cryptocurrency-in-southeast-asia/

MONERO is used by NEO-NAZI WHITE SUPREMACISTS.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/neqy7z/neo-nazis-monero-weev-daily-stormer
https://www.newsweek.com/white-supremacists-cryptocurrency-monero-bitcoin-861104

IF YOU USE MONERO... YOU SUPPORT ALL OF THE ABOVE.

[Anonymous No.50929714]

>>50929672
>MONERO BAD
t. WEFNigger

[Anonymous No.50929742]

>>50929589
ok, thanks!

[Anonymous No.50929746]

>>50927872
Yeah, doing that right now with dosemu and the abracadabra module. Also want to see if I can get cataclysm-dda working, I hear it's possible, though a little janky. Also ZZT, loved that game as a kid.

[Anonymous No.50929758]

>>50929672
>MONERO is used by NEO-NAZI WHITE SUPREMACISTS.
Thanks for the recommendation, Jew.

[Anonymous No.50930097]

>>50927493
will do, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.50930142]

>>50916577
Fuck off, nigger. Hitler was based!

[Anonymous No.50930277]

>>50929672
>MONERO is used by CHILD PORNOGRAPHERS, PEDOPHILES, AND CHILD RAPISTS.
Yes, but that was happening before cryptocurrencies even existed, so..
>MONERO is used by NORTH KOREA to fund DEATH CAMPS.
Yes, but that was happening before cryptocurrencies even existed, so..
>MONERO is used by COCAINE, METH AND HEROIN MERCHANTS.
This is bad for what reason? Also, they were selling illicit drugs before cryptocurrencies existed, so..
>MONERO is used by TERRORISTS such as ISIS and AL QAEDA.
"Terrorist" groups are a problem the US Government created by trying to nation build in the middle east, also they were around before the advent of cryptos, so..
>MONERO is used by NEO-NAZI WHITE SUPREMACISTS.
I'm offended that you think black supremacists can't use Monero, are you a racist?

IF YOU USE MONERO... YOU RECOGNIZE MONERO'S SUPREMACY AS A TOOL FOR FINANCIAL FREEDOM

[Anonymous No.50930420]

monero will be at $0 or equivalent by 2030. sceencap

[Anonymous No.50930864]

[Anonymous No.50931010]

>>50930277
>I'm offended that you think black supremacists can't use Monero, are you a racist?
Kek. This reminded me of the scene I heard you are racist father Ted

[Anonymous No.50931012]

>>50930420

[Anonymous No.50931120]

i know this is a /g/ adjacent question but is there any examples for managing monero transactions? RPC documentation and the examples on the GH page seems to only feature wallet related stuff. Planning on making something where i can send a payment address / QR similar to the merchant mode and automatically verify it, cant seem to find any examples for it. (Preferably C/C++)

[Anonymous No.50931849]

>>50926816
>Your MyMonero wallet is probably not synced.
Faced same problems, I moved my assets to Sylo SDK which is more secure and is expanding it's utilities to further make communication decentralized

[Anonymous No.50931951]

>>50930420
Well, with my health conditions I wont make it past 2025 anyway...

[Anonymous No.50931973]

>>50931951
F

[Anonymous No.50932150]

>>50931951
I'll pray for you, anonfren.

[Anonymous No.50932604]

>>50910958
>Non KYC:
Kucoin
stop shilling kucoin they're demanding receipts and stealing user's monero

[Anonymous No.50932766]

>>50929672
>IF YOU USE MONERO... YOU SUPPORT ALL OF THE ABOVE.
And that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.50932785]

>>50932604
Cexes are satanic, Infinity project ftw

[Anonymous No.50932870]

>>50921628
Uh Anon, you have a Typo.
Picrel says 'ZCASH is pure sex'
It should say 'ZCASH is pure sex change'

[Anonymous No.50932892]

>>50929672
>MONERO is used by CHILD PORNOGRAPHERS, PEDOPHILES, AND CHILD RAPISTS.>>50929672
>MONERO is used by NORTH KOREA to fund DEATH CAMPS.
>>50929672
>MONERO is used by COCAINE, METH AND HEROIN MERCHANTS.
>>50929672
>MONERO is used by TERRORISTS such as ISIS and AL QAEDA.
>>50929672
>MONERO is used by NEO-NAZI WHITE SUPREMACISTS.
>>50929672
>IF YOU USE MONERO... YOU SUPPORT ALL OF THE ABOVE.

[Anonymous No.50932961]

>>50929672
so basically what you are saying is that it works and is a great privacy asset?

[Anonymous No.50933093]

whats the best monero wallet?

[Anonymous No.50933256]

>>50929149
>>50929549
I thought swirl sun was a Japanese thing (inb4 FBI infographic)
Ever played Super Mario Sunshine?

[Anonymous No.50933299]

hey could you extremists use some of these xmr gains to pump micro-cap humble baby wownero percentage wise above the other dog coins so we steal the meme zoomers and integrate them into the Monero economy by generating buzz on tik tok that'd be great thx

[Anonymous No.50933440]

Looking forward to the Phase 2 of the NEVM where Syscon will introduce zkrollups to the platform. And this will not only bring NEVM speeds up to over 200,000 transactions per second; far beyond what is theorized for ethereum 2.0, but will also allow projects built atop the syscon platform to institute zero fees within their applications.

[Anonymous No.50933471]

>>50933299
Wow is shit

[Anonymous No.50933545]

>>50933299
I like WOW but it is a forevermeme coin. Even though it's lightyears ahead of every other dog coin out there it will probably never take off because it's ultra niche and hard to buy for the average smartphone addicted zoomer.

[Anonymous No.50933634]

>>50933299
I'm not pumping your bags.
Fuck off.
Animal coins have higher mcap than xmr anyway

[Anonymous No.50933920]

>>50929672
Based.

[Anonymous No.50933951]

>>50931010

[Anonymous No.50933994]

>>50929672
You forgot about the most based of them all:
MONERO is used for TAX EVASION
https://suckmybigfatcockstatistnigger.hugeboobas

[Anonymous No.50934561]

>>50911141

[Anonymous No.50934615]

Stop using centralized exchanges ffs.

[Anonymous No.50934627]

>>50929672
>He thinks those are sell signals.

[Anonymous No.50934655]

>>50916961
I am stealing that nyanero

[Anonymous No.50934799]

>>50929672
we can say worse if you use USD.

[Anonymous No.50935874]

>Monero Core port to TempleOS when?

[Anonymous No.50936935]

dont forget to get some BBBY so you can sell the gains for more monero bros

[Anonymous No.50937488]

>>50934561

[Anonymous No.50938349]

>>50927791

[Anonymous No.50938365]

>>50929451
>>50929642
same issue

[Anonymous No.50938714]

>>50935874
Never. TempleOS lacks a network stack. There's a fork of it called ZenithOS which will eventually.

[Anonymous No.50939115]

>>50938349
A.I. is gigabased, holy shit

[Anonymous No.50939355]

>>50916577
>Hitler created one of the biggest welfare states in the world and funded it by printing marks and then forcing conquered nations to take marks at point of gun. Exactly what XMR is supposed to fight.
This only works if occupying war-torn countries was in any way profitable instead of a huge financial burden. Equating the Third Reich's welfare state with the modern US' is reductive in both size and scope, to fund it for example most Americans today pay a higher personal income tax than Germans in 1941.

>>50931951
Wishing you the best whatever happens, anon

[Anonymous No.50940178]

>>50917296
Go to the xmr generals and look for the DN link to the real apps people use to swap for xmr it's called 'Infinity ____'

[Anonymous No.50941261]

How paranoid are you guys when it comes to JS on websites?
Monero market using JS on front-end yay or nay?

[Anonymous No.50941305]

>>50941261
Javascript is gay.

[Anonymous No.50941423]

>>50911036
>cake
we need to stop recommending this assfucker wallet. the whole community is infested by bought and paid for cake wallet shills. Everyone is using their nodes. They know when the community is buying and selling. And they will relentlessly dumb on the small hodlers with pump and dumb campaigns like monerorun". still laughing my ass off about that one. All the people with cake wallet sponsorship shilled for it.
tldr: stop using this assfucker wallet.

[Anonymous No.50941441]

>>50941261
yeah I was a bit suspicious of that, myself.

[Anonymous No.50941448]

>>50941305
I also love downloading the entire website again everytime I want to do a new search query.
Sorting stuff is also cool without JS.

[Anonymous No.50941626]

>>50941261
>Js
Nope

[Anonymous No.50941763]

>>50941261
Absolute NAY.
Java Script can be uses to backtrack you I.P. address through very intricate data gathering if you do not maintain maximum OPSEC.
NO SCRIPTS at all.
DYOR!!!

[Anonymous No.50942469]

>>50941423
[citation needed]

[Anonymous No.50942871]

>>50941423
>false Argumentum ad numerum
>cum hoc ergo propter hoc
Monerun is not even related to cake. It was for the purpose of seeing which exchanges honor the massive amounts of withdrawal requests. If the withdrawals are successful, then the exchange has seemingly not done anything shady. If not, and you can't withdraw, then it's likely that the exchange never actually had the Monero to sell in the first place (meaning they list paper xmr).

Stop being moronic, if you actually have a refutal state it properly and in a concise manner.

[Anonymous No.50943193]

>>50942871
>another cakewallet shill or just a naive moron
fine keep believing in your hopium. They are basically a centralized party at the core of monero. And people are simping for them (especially the people that get paid by them: assfucker Justin, Monerotalk, Sethforprivacy all get paid by cake). Featherwallet protects your privacy much better but none of them ever talks about it because they get funding from cake.psptwm

[Anonymous No.50943208]

>>50943193
You know you can just run your own node and point Cakewallet at it, right?

[Anonymous No.50943244]

>>50943208
you know that nobody does that and cake is preconfigured with their node by default?

[Anonymous No.50943256]

>>50943244
Sane defaults are not a conspiracy.

[Anonymous No.50943316]

>>50943256
>>sane defaults
that mean that one company can gather lots of metadata on the ahole community. Next to that they gather data at onramps and offramps.
people pretend they care about privacy, but when it comes to cakewallet they shill for it like there is no tomorrow ( because they are bought and paid for)
>>if you think it is a sane default to get fucked in the ass, go ahead.

[Anonymous No.50943457]

>>50943244
I do that and can also confirm that my onion rpc server is used every day by others as well.
Should rly upgrade hardware though.

[Anonymous No.50943517]

>>50943457
cakewallet has 100k+ users. A fraction of them do this. The figure heads in our community are all paid for by cake. There are other solutions that value privacy more and that are not in the hand of one single prajeet. But nobody ever talks about them. Because they dont hand out shekels to shills.

[Anonymous No.50943566]

>>50942469
I would not agree with the anon on the Monerun stuff, but with stuff like monero.com. Cake is increasingly feeling like a risk to the entire Monero project.

[Anonymous No.50943580]

>>50943244
Not my problem if retards use remote nodes they don't own. I use cake for my hot wallet with my nodes and it works great.

[Anonymous No.50943622]

>>50943517
very true

[Anonymous No.50943646]

>>50943566
>>50943566
I mean look at the chart. Small buyers bought into it and the someone dumped on them.
I just see the same people that are sponsored by cake wallet all promote this stuff.
Ultimately it is the same kind of problem. The figure heads in the community are shills.

[Anonymous No.50943703]

it is quite lame cakewallet wont give up monero.com

[Anonymous No.50943821]

>>50943703
what do you expect from a company that is run by a greedy pajeet and a faggot?

[Anonymous No.50943852]

>>50943821
stop talking to yourself

[Anonymous No.50943882]

>>50943852
>>50943821
cakewallet has its place, i keep a few moneros on there to use when im out and about

[Anonymous No.50943944]

>>50943882
the problem is that they bought all the "influencers" in the space and people dont even look at the other wallets any more that are actually funded by the community and open source. Cake wallet is a company that is interested in its own profit after all. The other wallet devs work for the community. They dont have a budget to pay for shills but they still do good work.

[Anonymous No.50944053]

Sorry if retarded question but on all the non-kyc places you have to buy xmr with other coins right?

[Anonymous No.50944253]

>>50944053
Localmonero you can do cash/wires/cash app whatever

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.50944296]

Hey guys, we at the magic monero fund are raising funds to have noot finalize the ETH-XMR swaps.
Donations would be much appreciated and if you feel like it, tax-deductible.
Learn more about it here:
https://magicgrants.org/noot-ETH-XMR-Atomic-Swaps/


jannies. this is a charity closely related to monero. this is just like posting a ccs proposal so please dont ban, thanks :)

[Anonymous No.50944710]

>>50944296
<3 U MB

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.50944972]

>>50944710

[Anonymous No.50945017]

>>50943193
>They are basically a centralized party at the core of monero.
I get that and agree.
>And people are simping for them, especially the people that get paid by them
Yeah dude, that's kinda what a sponsor is.
>Featherwallet protects your privacy much better but none of them ever talks about it because they get funding from cake.psptwm
They have spoken about other wallets before, but they mentioned more what is their sponsor (like any one would do because you're getting paid).

BTW I don't even use cake, but it's good as normie tier. Especially with the gift card function that no other wallet has (yet).
I don't get why you're so tense and angry about it. Do explain yourself better.

[Anonymous No.50945048]

>>50943703
Cake's team have previously said that they are willing to sell the domain to Monero core if need be.

[Anonymous No.50945183]

>>50945017
>>Yeah dude, that's kinda what a sponsor is.
people present themselves as if they care about privacy, open source or "the community" but all they do is shill for a private company for money.
If they would really care about these topics they wouldnt accept sponsorship from a company that damages privacy and centralizes more and more of the community.
magicgrants is yet another example for this. Absolute cringe to see it promoted here.

[Anonymous No.50945300]

>>50945183
>p2pool dev doesn't care about privacy since he's sponsored by cakewallet!
Retarded ass take lol

[Anonymous No.50945356]

>>50945300
I understand the concern because of what happened to Bitcoin with companies basically shaping its development and narratives around it (and I'm glad that someone is thinking this, it means the community doesn't blindly trust perceived proponents) but I don't think Cake is another Blockstream.

We should definitely ALSO promote the shit out of every other monero-adjacent entity though, because competition and distribution is only a good thing for the network and community.

[Anonymous No.50945366]

>>50945300
>>stupid strawman argument by assfucker
you fucking moron know exactly who I am talking about. Sethforprivacy for example is basing his whole identity on caring about privacy but is still happy to get sponsored by a company that has the power to collect meta data and KYC data on 100k+ monero users. Menawhile there are open source wallets out there that put a lot more emphasis on privacy and are not in a position to monopolize the whole space.

[Anonymous No.50945438]

>>50945356
>competition and distribution is only a good thing for the network and community.
Agreed. For me cakewallet is the best wallet for phones.
>>50945366
>that has the power to collect meta data and KYC data on 100k+ monero users.
I use cakewallet as my hot wallet on a phone I bought for cash. With an esim I bought with monero and use mullvad with a kill switch and my own node. Not my problem if people don't use any opsec for phone wallets.

[Anonymous No.50945495]

>>50945438
>>Not my problem if people don't use any opsec for phone wallets.
you are so fucking retarded and you know nothing about opsec. If everyone else is kyced and has their metadata collected your privacy is damaged as well. fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.50945556]

>>50945495
>If everyone else is kyced
Every person who uses monero is kyc but me?
>you know nothing about opsec
I guess I do know something about opsec if I'm the only anon user. You are the blackest retard gorilla.

[Anonymous No.50945622]

[Anonymous No.50945640]

>>50945556
>>I guess I do know something about opsec if I'm the only anon user.
jump off a bridge.

[Anonymous No.50945773]

Guys we need to warn general alex jones that the reptile people will try to execute him with the yakuza. Its our jobs as the loteks exchanging goods with monero.

[Anonymous No.50945825]

>>50945640
You first nigger. Or better yet how about you try and provide something for the Monero community vs bitching about cakewallet on /biz.

[Anonymous No.50945948]

>>50945825
Explaining that assfucking is not a sane default is a service to the community.

you stupid faggots are out of the genepool anyhow, but I just wish you would go about it faster.
You need to understand that you are only as private as everyone else. You cant hide in a crowd that is tracked. You can only be private as a community and not as an individual.
absolutely ridicoulus that this needs to be spelled out. But it seems like you smug faggots really need to have it spelled out like this.

[Anonymous No.50946017]

>>50945948
lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.50946060]

I've been working on a project called xmr.beauty for about a week now. It's basically supposed to be a donation-ran site that runs services, something like snopyta. I plan to run an xmr node that should be done by like december or early next year if i can get the funding for a vps big enough for me to host the xmr blockchain. Go and donate to support the project, right now I only have a basic site and a (private) email service and I want to expand it so i'm coming to my 2nd favorite board.

[Anonymous No.50947049]

[Anonymous No.50947368]

>>50941261
Javascript is hard to audit and often purposefully obfuscated so no one really know what these snippets of code are doing whenever you run it.

[Anonymous No.50947786]

>>50947368

There are cool workarounds like the ones the Tor poker sites use.

[Anonymous No.50948020]

>>50946060
https://xmr.beauty

[Anonymous No.50948199]

>>50948020
>asks for donations
>static site with nothing worth donating for
gtfo pajeet

[Anonymous No.50948283]

>>50932785
link pls, kucoin cucked me on a KYC once

[Anonymous No.50949471]

[Anonymous No.50950208]

Morning, frens.

[Anonymous No.50950248]

>>50911332
Qft. So long as Erciccione and his ilk are involved with monero, Jewish tricks like zcash will win.

Why do privacy half-assed when you can just subvert it entirely and be safe from the government at least?

[Anonymous No.50950988]

>>50950208
Morning!

[Anonymous No.50951299]

Monegroes, what was your experience like buying off AgoraDesk/LocalMonero?
>>50950208
>>50950988
Goodnight.

[Anonymous No.50951404]

>>50951299
It's alright. They have a pretty strong buyer protection scheme in place. I can say it's much riskier for a seller than a buyer in AgoraDesk.

[LebAnon No.50951539]

>>50950208
Morning frens

[Anonymous No.50952221]

>>50951539
morning, anon

[LebAnon No.50952279]

>>50952221
if I didnt have power issues in this shithold I'd post
I salute your work brother

[Anonymous No.50952314]

>>50912102
baymax but based

[Anonymous No.50952338]

>>50950208
Good morning and I love Monero chan.

[Anonymous No.50952411]

>>50926649
>>50929149
>>50929549
Schizo-safe version

[Anonymous No.50952462]

>>50952411
no, I like the other one, it filters the schizos

[Anonymous No.50952592]

Hello, anons.
XMRig or XMR-stak?
I'm assuming both are free and open source, non-malicious projects. Is that correct?

XMRig's donations are not a problem since I disable them when compiling from source, so please don't take that into consideration.

I have a Ryzen 3 CPU and I'm on Linux.

Thanks for reading!

[Anonymous No.50952687]

>>50952592
xmrig works very well for me on Linux.

[Anonymous No.50952710]

>>50952687
I can't get the thing to start hashing here, maybe there's one too many of my kernel hardening configs preventing it from working correctly. I get new jobs from time to time but no hashing.

[Anonymous No.50952742]

>>50952710
XMRig basically needs to run as root to turn on huge pages and tune CPU flags properly.

[Anonymous No.50952785]

>>50910958
Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
I have a Ryzen 3900 (non-x) and am only able to get around 6k H/s
I am running in admin also

[Anonymous No.50952878]

>>50952742
Ah, well. I'll see about some sandboxing.

[Anonymous No.50952882]

>>50941261
>>50941305
>>50941626
>>50941763
>>50947368
JS schizos never die it seems

[Anonymous No.50952959]

>>50910958
Change to doge

[Anonymous No.50953079]

I paid for a vpn today with monero. Probably the comfiest thing I've ever done.

[Anonymous No.50953152]

>>50953079
Mullvad?

[Anonymous No.50953394]

>>50941261
Odd how many people are against it on a site run on JS

[Anonymous No.50953570]

>>50952710
Seems I've disabled one too many features when compiling from source. Re-compiling with all of them works just fine, so I'll go with it for now. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.50953826]

There have been a number of competitors who have attempted to steal the mantle from ethereum typically by proclaiming lower fees, higher speeds, greater security or increased decentralization but not with one or more serious trade-offs. Syscon's Network Enhanced Virtual Machine (NEVM) promises all of the above but without the constellations.

[Anonymous No.50953838]

>no compromise

awesome! i love that. so how do i buy this no compromise privacy coin? because i can't find it on any dex
>on a centralized exchange
HAHAHAHAHA wow, that's a good joke

HA HAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHA
LOL
ROFL EVEN

[Anonymous No.50953946]

>>50953838
>because i can't find it on any dex

https://bisq.wiki/Trading_Monero

[Anonymous No.50954024]

>>50953946
>https://bisq.wiki/Trading_Monero
ah thanks, coinmarketcap never even mentioned bisq
i also notice just now its also on digifinex

alright never mind, monero wins again

i bitched at kda thread that they're not on a dex and i just got yelled at that all of crypto is a scam and i should just pull my head out of my ass and use a cex

[Anonymous No.50954051]

>>50954024
>digifinex
wait never mind, thats not a dex. im confusing it with ethfinex or something

[Anonymous No.50954074]

>>50954024
bisq is alright but the software is a piece of shit, localmonero is an alternative.

[Anonymous No.50954081]

>>50952785
Your ram probably sucks.
You're using windows
Xmrig isn't tuned
One or more of the above

[Anonymous No.50954129]

>>50954074
yeah it all looks like a pain in the ass but at least the effort is made so you can continue to claim "no compromise."

seeing people getting fucked by kucoin not letting them withdraw their monero without kyc and providing an explanation/excuse/having to explain yourself why you're moving your own money to some centralized assholes like its any of their fucking business, i refuse to be humiliated like that

[Anonymous No.50954145]

>>50954024
>>50953838
>>Non KYC:
>LocalMonero
>Morphtoken
>Bisq
>Kucoin
>Tradeogre
>Crypto ATMs
>see: kycnot.me & orangefren.com (for the best swap deal available)

Why don't people read the OP's posts, it's literally on the first post.

[Anonymous No.50954176]

>>50954145
kucoin is literally blasting people for trying to withdraw their monero and demanding kyc and also you have "explain yourself" like they're the fucking coin police.

[Anonymous No.50954491]

>>50954176
Never had a problem with them, but there are still more options mentioned. Just pick any other.

[Anonymous No.50954759]

>>50954491
yeah thanks for the list of options. i'll consider any of those that are decentralized. because like monero itself i refuse to compromise

[Anonymous No.50954782]

>>50954759
>because like monero itself i refuse to compromise
Based. Be on the lookout for the upcoming DEXs such as Serai and Haveno.

[Anonymous No.50954880]

>>50941261
>>50947368
LibreJS helps - or something following the spirit of the idea, i.e. actually auditable, well organised, non-obfuscated scripts.
In fact ideally the scripts would be small and realistically auditable in a single sitting - technically LibreJS will be satisfied if you have a 100k LOC bundle of garbage with a bazillion libraries, if it's not obfuscated and properly licensed. But that's not useful. Keep it under a few hundred LOC at most, keep JS to specific places (no hidden inline script snippets), make sure it's ALL readable with no "clever" one-liners or weird property tricks that could hide a single clever tracker in a couple of lines amidst an otherwise innocent-looking script.

Keep it clear and readable and I'd use it.

[Anonymous No.50954904]

>>50953838

Unlike this sanctioned embarrassment, you can easily buy Zcash on Coinbase.

[Anonymous No.50955027]

>>50953394
It’s not exactly some absolute moral question, though I wish the site didn’t use JS. Just because I like 4chan and am careful to do nothing I would actually need total privacy for doesn’t mean JS is fine on a site you do want privacy for. You can compromise over shitposting and sharing memes because where will you find a non-JS alternative to this community? but not on Monero if your whole goal is anonymity and privacy.

[Anonymous No.50955048]

>>50954904
coinbase is a centralized exchange

[Anonymous No.50955177]

>>50954904

Its almost like you faggots want to be corporate stooges.

[Anonymous No.50955324]

>>50955048

Which makes it easier to onboard new users. Decentralized exchanges are too difficult for normies, you gotta make it as simple as possible.

[Anonymous No.50955451]

>>50955324
good than stop shilling it here XD

[Anonymous No.50955492]

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[Anonymous No.50955497]

>>50955324
oh i get it, you're fudding zcash

[Anonymous No.50955599]

>>50953152
ivpn

[Anonymous No.50955869]

>>50954880
The fact that a JS script can reach 100k LOC boggles my mind.

[Anonymous No.50955938]

>>50955869
People build literal fucking entire software applications in JS.
They made a motherfucking desktop runtime to let people build DESKTOP SOFTWARE entirely in JS.

[Anonymous No.50956112]

>>50954081
Thank you
I am using windows and am using P2Pool Mini directly on the monero gui wallet
I've seen several examples of this CPU getting over 10k H/s. Is it really a 66% increase to not use windows and swapping to xmrig?

[Anonymous No.50956499]

>>50956112
Well first of all it'd be a 33% increase. But also xmrig is definitely better than the included wallet miner.
Not sure about windows vs. linux, my uninformed armchair opinion is that it's down to how it's configured. E.g. if windows restricts some memory feature that makes mining a lot more efficient, it's gonna suffer a LOT. If not, then there's just going to be a few % of overhead at most.
Try xmrig on windows first.

[Anonymous No.50957968]

>>50954759
Bisq is decentralized and runs on Tor.

[Anonymous No.50958437]

>>50954782
>"upcoming"