/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.50856079]

>apply for a job
>they fucking love me
>openly admit they really want me to join them
>recruiter guy makes an offer
>propose a new offer, increase of 10% on his first offer with the aim of meeting in the middle
>he calls me and appears offended
>says he will discuss it
What the fuck, am I in the wrong here? I thought it was a common practice to not blindly accept the first offer a company does

[Anonymous No.50856123]

Who cares? Latina milf pussy.

[Anonymous No.50856136]

>>50856079
For me, it's left.

[Anonymous No.50856162]

>>50856079
just call him back and smooth things over and ask for a counter offer. Plenty of autists that play my way or I go out there he may have gotten the wrong impression. Do it, if you bring him back to the table you're going to get seven because you just shown him how to defuse and get the signature

[Anonymous No.50856163]

>>50856079
You blew it, start looking elsewhere

[Anonymous No.50856172]

>>50856079
you just bargained to bargain? what an idiot

[Anonymous No.50856212]

>>50856079
that happened

[Anonymous No.50856247]

>>50856079
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[Anonymous No.50856251]

>>50856079
Retard move on the company
At least you can use that offer as a leverage search for that company competition and apply there

[Anonymous No.50856279]

>>50856136
oh no no, in this case Colombian beats Mexican. This is 17 yr old so mutts close your eyes. Ticker: $booba

[Anonymous No.50856288]

>>50856079
>they fucking love me
>openly admit they really want me to join them
Because they thought they could swindle you.
"Never trust a smiling business man" applies here.
They liked you because they thought you were stupid enough to work for less.

[Anonymous No.50856305]

Why do people ask for professional advice when this entire board is populated by third worlders who barely speak English and have socially repellant cultures?

[Anonymous No.50856317]

>>50856079
no, you're not a slave, if they expect you to jump at the chance of waging for them at whatever price they think you're worth they can fuck off.
you work under your terms as much as you're able.

[Anonymous No.50856335]

>>50856079
10% is alot to ask on a counter. I'd only expect to counter that if you have multiple offers in tandem.
HR is always fine with increasing 2.4% - 3.2%.

[Anonymous No.50856342]

>>50856079
recruiters, whether internal or external, are universally lazy and worthless retards. he's just mad that you're making his life slightly more difficult.

[Anonymous No.50856379]

>>50856079
At the end of the day, you are a WAGIE! Wake the fuck up dude, unless you’ve got your knee pads on you are expected to do the wagie dance, that’s mean yes sir no sir I will except your offer sir (even though I bring in 100x more value if not more than what you’re paying me). It’s called wage slaving for a reason OP

[Anonymous No.50856380]

>>50856079
If a company balks at negotiating salary then they arent worth considering. They will be stingy as fuck and you will be miserable with your "cost of living" increase of 2% every year.

[Anonymous No.50856381]

>>50856079
Depends on how you asked for it. If you did even minor research and had reasons behind your +10% counter offer when you asked for it, than they are trying to low-ball you - keep it up Chad negotiator. If you were being a pretentious faggot, it's over.

[Anonymous No.50856439]

>>50856162
I told him I was happy to meet in the middle (I am)

>>50856380
Yeah, countering a first offer is completely normal where I love so I dont get that guy

>>50856381
I am clearly (they even told me) the perfect candidate. I'm also the only one, and they are in a rush to find somebody. It's a big pay increase already compared to my current job, but I dont think the first offer some recruiter cunt does is always the most attractive offer. I researched my position and motivated my counter completely

[Anonymous No.50856464]

Also, I'm dutch and it's completely normal to counter with a 10-15% increase. The guy was asian though I'm pretty sure

[Anonymous No.50856522]

>>50856464
Dutch? Don't you mean German?

[Anonymous No.50856571]

>>50856464
Asians are the hardest to negotiate with. No joke. Is it a mostly Asian company? If so admit defeat and move on!

[Anonymous No.50856572]

>>50856079
>they fucking love me
My experience is that this never means you'll actually get a job kek they can fucking praise your skills and the market is so fucked up with bullshit they'll still pass you over for zoomer shaniqua.

[Anonymous No.50856607]

>>50856522
Germany was founded by the Dutch not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.50856632]

>>50856607
wat zeg je nou nikker

[Anonymous No.50856660]

>>50856305
Most of it is just LARPs to band the NEETs together so they can circle jerk how shitty the world is outside their parents basement

[Anonymous No.50856677]

>>50856079
You’re not wrong OP. Tell that faggot recruiter to grows some balls and learn how the world works or call his manager and tell him to transfer you to a more professional recruiter in the company or never contact you again

[Anonymous No.50856713]

>>50856079
Work environments are becoming too friendly.
Your colleagues are becoming "pals" instead.
Asking for more money is like asking your "new buddy" for money that you don't intend to give back and people react as such, "ah mate how can you do that to me? I thought we were buds".
It's all backwards and we have to go return to the old ways.

[Anonymous No.50856722]

>>50856079

10% is a lot lol

[Anonymous No.50856731]

>>50856247
Unbelievably based and hummina hummina pilled

[Anonymous No.50856767]

>>50856247
>kills himself

Good riddance.

[Anonymous No.50856818]

>>50856439
Salsa of this picture?

[Anonymous No.50856829]

>>50856713
Yeah I cant believe people act like they're personally offended like it's their own money at play. It's fucking ridiculous. I'm hired to do a fucking job. Not to make friends

[Anonymous No.50856913]

>>50856136
>>50856079
For me, it's latina mommy milf on the right.

[Anonymous No.50857093]

>>50856829
>>50856713
part of the problem people forgetting why we work: to make fucking money. yes, there are people that are passionate about what they do but most of us just work for a paycheck. don't know if it's just an american thing but we put way too much of our personality into what we do for a living. what i do outside of work is infinitely more interesting than what i do while working.

[Anonymous No.50857143]

>>50856247
based as fuck

[Anonymous No.50857191]

>>50856136
Correct choice. Sel mommy all the way. Pros you can understand what she says

[Anonymous No.50857244]

>>50856571
Nice try, Chang.

[Anonymous No.50857304]

>>50856677
Double down, the guys at the office will double love you if you do this.

I hate it when people don't put shit down in writing.

When you get the job don't show up on the first day and say you expected to work remotely because they never specified in writing.

[Anonymous No.50857320]

>>50857191

[Anonymous No.50857389]

>>50857244
I can think of many battles that refute that quote. Bosworth, for example.

Richard III had the high ground, more numbers, better equipment and better preparation and he still lost.

[Anonymous No.50857456]

>>50857244
I only have experience with Chinese and taiwanese upper management for a clients. They will come into our office building and a 5'1" 50-60 year old man will be yelling that I'm "trying to fucka him, but he fucka me first instead - no contract no money". This is construction though.

[Anonymous No.50857478]

>>50857389
Lol smoth brain. He is saying that the winners and outcomes are predestined. In a sense every battle has already been won by one of the teams strategies. Kek

[Anonymous No.50857523]

Also met a lot of Chinese employees and they were brought to Texas to supervise the on projects. 10 people stuffed into a 2 bedroom apartment. Met one cool guy, taught me some bad words in Chinese. he was telling me about his wife in China and how he's supporting them from over seas. He was over here for 2 years. Went home once for his anniversary. I felt so bad for him.

[Anonymous No.50857609]

>>50856818
search "liminal spaces"
retarded term but hey, thats what theyre calling it

[Anonymous No.50857629]

>>50856079
>apply for job
>get called by recruiter a few hours later
>asks some screener questions and seems really interested in having me join
>get added on LI, texted, and emailed about the job
>says that he's going to see what the plan is for scheduling an in person interview later that week
>follow up after a few days
>turns out the position got frozen and now nobody's getting hired for it
I was so close to putting in my 2 week's notice. They weren't going to pay me much more than what I get now, but it at least had some upward mobility.

[Anonymous No.50857686]

>>50856677
Dubs of truth. That pic is topkek.

[Anonymous No.50857774]

>>50856079
You did well. +10% is nothing. The recruiter guy is retarded.
Every profession is full of morons so don't take it personally.

[Anonymous No.50857863]

>>50856136
It's not a fair comparison. Left pic was taken when Salma was still pretty young and her natural beauty was still intact. Right is older in her picture and has started bogging herself.

[Anonymous No.50857866]

>>50856247
mucho basado amigo

[Anonymous No.50857889]

>>50857863
That pic of sel was taken I'm 2019. Cope harder

[Anonymous No.50857916]

>>50857191
>Pros you can understand what she says
You say that like it's a good thing to understand the bitching your woman spits, if she speaks a different language you can't understand, you can always pull the "I don't understand what you're saying" card

[Anonymous No.50858015]

I usually negotiate the salary but for my current role, the process went so well, they were so professional and gave me a good offer that it would have felt cheap and jewy to pull the 10% card. So I didn't and don't regret it.

[Anonymous No.50858055]

>>50857889
It's from the movie Grown Ups 2, released in 2013.

[Anonymous No.50858089]

>>50857456
You rike fuck Asian rady?

[Anonymous No.50858093]

>>50858015
The interesting part here is that the manager already informed me the range would be 78k-95k EUR. The current offer is 87k. It makes sense to try and bump it up right?

[Anonymous No.50858157]

>>50857609
i just looked it up (really gay term btw), and that picture in no way matches the definition of 'liminal space'. try harder, smartphone addled zoomer retard

[Anonymous No.50858227]

>>50857093
No matter how much I love a job I still want to be fairly compensated for my time. They aren’t giving me this job to be friends with me, it’s to steal excess value from my labor. Anyplace that says they’re like a family is the biggest red flag they with abuse you and never raise your pay.

[Anonymous No.50858310]

>>50858093
In that case yes. Definitely.

[Anonymous No.50858316]

>>50857916
I only date women I actually enjoy interacting with because I'm not fucking retard. You probably would marry a chick like this then complain about having to listen to what you signed up for

[Anonymous No.50858336]

>>50858316
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.50858352]

>>50858316
>>50858336
Those eyebrows though...little too done up.

[Anonymous No.50858891]

>>50856079

>he calls me and appears offended
>says he will discuss it

fuck em, nothing wrong with negotiating more money if you dont care whether u get the job or not

[Anonymous No.50858915]

>>50856079
Bros why is Latina pussy so good? I only have sex with Latina now, plan on marrying one and having kids with her.

[Anonymous No.50859072]

>>50858316
>I only date women I actually enjoy interacting with because I'm not fucking retard.
youre not wrong in thinking like this, but remember true attraction transcends language. ive seen many successful marriages where they barely understood each other in the beginning.

[Anonymous No.50859080]

>>50858915
I have some Qs:
>what makes them so good? Is it the thiccness?
>how do you feel about your future wife turning into goblina when she's 23?
>where do you get latina pussy?

[Anonymous No.50859118]

>>50856079
Some things like sanity and not hating your job are worth more than a 10% larger paycheck. Just make sure you're not joining an MLM or commission only sales job.

If you had another offer from another company in your back pocket, that would have been appropriate leverage before counteroffering.

Take what you can get and swap your way up if you end up hating this job. HR roasties love the already employed

[Anonymous No.50859170]

>>50856079
You asked too low. Ask for 25% more. 10% seems like you just want to fuck them over. 25% means you actually value yourself much more and they will need to do their best to get you

[Anonymous No.50859213]

>>50856172
He probably is a sandnigger in his morrocan souk. They must haggle for anything and everything, even when it doesn't make sense. They don't understand it's not in the western culture to try to be a stingy piece of shit trying to scam ppl at every opportunity you get.
Fucking subhumans.

[Anonymous No.50859354]

>>50859072
>ive seen many successful marriages where they barely understood each other in the beginning.
What puts you in that position that you see multiple examples?

[Anonymous No.50859441]

>>50858316
for every girl out there, there's some guy who's tired of fucking her (and listening to her bullshit).
stop being a simp.

[Anonymous No.50859483]

>>50856335

Ask for 20% next time. Too many losers in this thread.

[Anonymous No.50859497]

>>50859080
So tight. Wet. Really good at it.
She'll work out regularly, she won't have to work a job.
Be White. Go to places where there are a lot of Latinas.

[Anonymous No.50859545]

>>50858915
>>50859497
Ok jew.

[Anonymous No.50859558]

>>50856439
>I researched my position and motivated my counter completely
>>50856079

OP is 100% Indian or from the region and negotiated 11k instead of 10k. don't waste your time here anons.

[Anonymous No.50859592]

>>50859545
Fuck off, fag.

[Anonymous No.50859609]

>>50859558
Read the entire thread, dumb cunt

[Anonymous No.50859620]

>>50859497
Do you ever worry about your sons? You point out that being white is the main thing that qualifies you for getting a latina. But your sons won't be white, how do you feel about that?

[Anonymous No.50859679]

>>50859592
Kys kike, your the one trying to get with literal retards.

[Anonymous No.50859789]

>>50856079
Recruiter here. If you already interviewed then you are wrong. Now the staffing agency has to ask the client for more money which makes not only yourself but his company look like shit and risk losing contracts and souring relationships. If you wanted more money, tell them up front before they tell the client what to expect or it’s a big fucking problem.

Imagine going to buy a used car listed for 5k. You Check it out and tell the dealer “I fucking love this car. I need it” and then he goes “oh well if you like it that much it’s actually 5.5k.”

That’s what you just did you turbo autist

[Anonymous No.50859823]

>>50856439
I hope they pull the offer. You had already won and now you are making everyone’s job more difficult. What a fag.

[Anonymous No.50859891]

>>50859441
I should have clarified my position. I'm married. So I guess I just like my wife and think other anons should aspire to actually like their spouse as well

>Inb4 simp for getting married

[Anonymous No.50859903]

>>50856677
>never gets contacted again and recruiters email all the other companies putting you on a blacklist with their end clients.

Lol, lmao even

[Anonymous No.50860102]

>>50856247
>spiling white liquid
indeed

[Anonymous No.50860139]

>>50859789
fuck third-party recruiters and nobody negotiates salary with them you roastie cunt. Tits or get the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.50860171]

>>50859679
You're a fucking idiot. Fuck off and die.
>>50859620
No I'm not because Latinas have White European admixture and also Latina genes are recessive, White genes are dominant. So my future Latina wife will birth White babies.

[Anonymous No.50860374]

>>50856677

[Anonymous No.50860565]

>>50856439
>>50856079
>meet them in the middle!
Maybe he's annoyed because you took the fucking lazy dumb boomer approach to negotiating. If that approach ever "worked" for you, it's because you're already well under the market rate. When you get to the offer stage you actually need to have some reasoning behind the number instead of blindly doing +10% and 'meeting in the middle'. And then you should also have done at least some research on what the market rate is and have a range at least.

I hope you at least learn not to be a retard next time so you won't make another thread about this dumb shit you just did.

[Anonymous No.50860829]

>>50860171
>that's the best this sow could do with makeup and filters
dios mio

[Anonymous No.50861012]

>>50860565
>>50856079
Yes, as addendum to this don't just out of nowhere ask a higher offer, say "yeah I'm definitely interested in the position, but I've got some other offers that I like as well, so I'll have to weigh my options" and if they really like you then they'll ask what your other offers are, give them a bs number, and they'll try to do something with it. Don't just flatly ask "oh yeah give me another 10%" because then you just look like an ass"

[Anonymous No.50861020]

>>50860829
>women wear makeup

[Anonymous No.50861036]

>>50861020
and shapewear

[Anonymous No.50861249]

>>50856305
>third worlders
I'm Canadian.
>Inb4 shithole.
Top ten in quality of life and little to no crime.

[Anonymous No.50861443]

>>50859903
>implying all recruiters will ban you for simply speaking
Sit down sweatie the adults are talking

[Anonymous No.50861683]

>>50861249
Unless you're in toronto or brampton

[Anonymous No.50861695]

>>50856079
>negotiating job offer during a recession
great way to lose the offer

[Anonymous No.50861756]

>>50859903
this. recruiters in an industry are a tight community. the black list is real

[Anonymous No.50861891]

>>50856079
>>50856136
for me, i would have them on their knees and then either tie they wrists together behind their backs (with consent of course, this is conseual sex), or i would duct tape their hands to my ass cheeks so their faces are infront of my big bavarian cock. I would tie their hair back like the girl on the lefts and grip the base of her hair and move her head all 9 inches towards my lower abdomen while she reaches up and looks at my veiny adonis belt and lower abs, i watch her eyes roll back down and close as she lets out a gag, she feels my heart beat thru the pulsating big bavarian cock, her tits are splayed out and drool is coming out both corners of her mouth. drool and precum are running down my balls and dripping onto the floor and her tits. i grab one tit and rub it with my callused hands covered in dark iron rust from getting back from lifting. My body is sweaty and gross but she is loving the salty tasty and nastines of my dirty cock. after i get fluffed, we undo the restraints or duct tape and she bends over splaying her puffed latina horse pussy for the bwc. she is dripping like a leaky faucet and lets out a moan as i split her tight pussy open and start thrusting, pounding her cervix, she moans in joy and pain. My balls are slapping against her and i stick my thumb in her ass as i use it to move her as i thrust, the other hand holding her wrists hehind her back. during all this their husbands watch as i breed her

[Anonymous No.50862058]

>>50859483
>The Virgin Negotiation
>The Chad Demand

[Anonymous No.50862115]

>>50856677
that pic

[Anonymous No.50862186]

>>50856079
Pretending to be offended is part of the game-make you deal going in

[Anonymous No.50862217]

>>50860171
>Latina genes are recessive, White genes are dominant.
What ones? Genes for dark hair, skin and eye colour are dominant. Most likely your kids will look more Latinx than white unless you get a very white Latina, but then she probably won't be as thick.

[Anonymous No.50862262]

>>50861756
>>50859903
Ex-recruiter turned software dev here.

The ‘black list’ is reserved for candidates who do something grossly inappropriate during the interview/job process or ghost. Simply negotiating your salary does not count obviously and it’s insane I even have to explain this to you idiots.

Even so, no matter how much value you retards think this mysterious ‘black list’ has, at the end of the day recruiters want candidates to place them into jobs so they can earn money. They only care about the serious cases of gross negligence, such as this one candidate I remember who was black listed for watching porn on the job- or lying about his competence in a language.

[Anonymous No.50862265]

>>50861756
>the black list is real
no it's not

[Anonymous No.50862300]

>>50862265
Well, internally within companies it does exist. Externally is dubious

[Anonymous No.50862345]

>>50862300
Id agree with that.

[Anonymous No.50862393]

>>50862262
>roastie exaggerating her 1 month internship to convince a 4chan anon that she once had some power over somebody
Why are beef curtains constantly posturing toward people who couldn'tcare less? They're like niggers haha

[Anonymous No.50862474]

>>50856288
>They liked you because they thought you were stupid enough to work for less

kek.

[Anonymous No.50862582]

>>50862393
>faggot accuses me of being a girl so that I will post my cock and balls as proof
Sorry homo. Go get your rocks off to the memory of your uncle feeling you up that one time when you were 8

[Anonymous No.50862590]

>>50856288
>"Never trust a smiling business man" applies here.
so true.
How do I negotiate a good wage as a slave without much prior experience? Is it even possible or do you need 2-3 years?

[Anonymous No.50862642]

>>50856079
last place I applied for, the recruiting bitch coped and seethed about my negotiation as well, but they ended up meeting me in the middle. they tried giving me this bullshit 10k bonus (lol taxes) instead of a fucking 5k/yr bump on their offer, and they finally just gave me the 5k. HR cucks are lowballing you most times and the manager just wants the role filled. always play hardball with these fucks.

[Anonymous No.50862721]

>>50862642
This

[Anonymous No.50863846]

>>50859354
lived among many immigrants growing up. not the lazy kind, but the ones that work and actually take advantage of 1st world opportunities.

[Anonymous No.50864501]

>>50862642
I would've taken the 10k up front and left after a yeR

[Anonymous No.50864544]

It’s normal to counter offer if you’re in demand or the offer was uncompetitive.
You don’t just ask for 10%+ because “that’s what people do” there’s got to be a power dynamic and reason.
The ONLY hard part about HR is salary negotiation/ongoing renegotiations and you’ve already proving to be annoying.

For what it’s worth the Dutch are the only race I’d view as below asians.

[Anonymous No.50864573]

>>50859213
This. I once had a Middle Eastern man try and charge an extra ~$500 to tow a truck of mine, had to sit and "negotiate" for 30 minutes until I got him down to the right price.

In my case, I called another business and had them sit there and argue with each other until I got the lowest price possible. On an unrelated note, the ME guy tried to convince me he was in the Army (which I am) by showing me the 8 point that Marines wear lol

[Anonymous No.50864753]

>>50861020
>hard at work
Stops to take pictures of herself

[Anonymous No.50865748]

>>50860171
here's that same goblin without makeup

[Anonymous No.50865840]

>>50865748
Cute
>>50862217
Its common knowledge that Latinas bleach very easily and give birth to White babies when they mate with a White man.

[Anonymous No.50867796]

>>50856247
Beyond based and completely lost at AROOOOGA fuck (you) anon lmao

[Anonymous No.50867836]

>>50856079
Financially I would invest in Salma. Over 40 years of continuous, consistent performance in high growth areas

[Anonymous No.50867861]

I was offered 145k to start a entry level corporate job. I took it immediately. Yr later I'm at 170k. If it's fair offer you should've just accepted

[Anonymous No.50868916]

>>50859789
I gave my recruiter a really wide range because I wasn't seriously going to negotiate my salary with her. Nobody takes you recruiter niggers seriuosly. Let the lazy HR cunts talk to me and then we can get serious about negotiations.

[Anonymous No.50869541]

>>50858915
>marrying a latina
lmao

[Anonymous No.50869572]

>>50862217
>unless you get a very white Latina, but then she probably won't be as thick.
have you seen women from spain? they are the reason why latinas are curvy, not native americans

[Anonymous No.50869721]

>>50869541
Basically the Asian women of brown women

Spic wife = Zuck tier

[Anonymous No.50869775]

>>50856079
He's just mad because you made his job harder. Now he has to go get approval from his boss, who will tell him to convince you to take the first offer. I don't think he is offended. Probably just annoyed.

[Anonymous No.50869799]

>>50856818
It's CGI. Not a real place.

[Anonymous No.50869882]

>>50856079
when women do this it's because they want you to force yourself on them.

[Anonymous No.50869912]

>>50857191
Jesus Christ
I like her

[Anonymous No.50870039]

>>50861756
I got blacklisted for 2 years. It's not that bad you just have to work hourly jobs and pay for your own insurance. Suddenly, one day, 5 different recruiting companies called me with 4 jobs each they thought I was a good fit for and I got 10 offers. Then I said, double it. Two accepted and i laughed and took both wfh jobs. That's where I work now. It's OK I'm planning to change jobs for more money.

[Anonymous No.50870217]

>>50859441
>for every girl out there, there's some guy who's tired of fucking her (and listening to her bullshit)
is this the chorus to the incel anthem? i guess whatever you need to do to cope with getting shut down repeatedly. retard

[Anonymous No.50870341]

>>50856677

[Anonymous No.50870780]

>>50856123
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.50871202]

Do a test, do another test, create work to submit, get asked to do trial project, do what they ask except there's obscure details that arnt the way they want, dont elaborate just tell me "unfortunately"

fuck you wasting my time like that stupid cunts.

[Anonymous No.50871234]

>>50865840
you must look like absolute shit

[Anonymous No.50871259]

>>50861695
>you should bend over and accept getting fucked in the ass

[Anonymous No.50871444]

when trying to leave my first job I got offered 52, asked for 60 and they countered 53.
I ended up taking it, they shouldn't get offended, worst they should do is say no take first offer or leave it.

[Anonymous No.50871461]

>>50856079
Those are men.

[Anonymous No.50871575]

>apply for job I am perfectly qualified for, in position that is desperately in demand
>recruiter roastie cannot explain to me the details of the work I will be doing
>"how can you recruit somebody for a position you don't understand? will my potential team be full of people hired by you?"
>they get very offended
>"I don't care. Get me your boss, or I will go to them myself."
>they refuse
>"Okay, I'll just go ahead and shoot him an email about how this went. Best of luck."
>close the video chat
>send the email explaining that the recruiter had no job knowledge and couldn't provide any examples of tasks that would be performed, and for this reason I would not be considering the offer from their company
>different roastie 1 step above roastie number 1 sends pleading email apologizing for the lack of professionalism, and asks for another interview
>"Sure, but I already have an offer from another company. I'll need 20% more and a sign on bonus to even consider it."
>1 day passes
>send another pleading email agreeing and asking for interview
>sit down chat with VP who is an ex-professional of what I will be doing, impress him with my knowledge and experience
>roastie looks bewildered by the conversation, because she is dumbfuck HR trash who doesn't do actual work
>get my bonus, get my 20% increase, also get company car and 4 weeks of paid vacation a year

if you're good and can make other people money, just demand what you are worth

[Anonymous No.50871618]

>>50865840
>doom my sons to be pudgy pan faced manlets
>extinguish 1000s of genes directly responsible for intelligence, that had to be painstakingly accumulated by extreme conditions
>It's ok because my kids will have le heckin green eyes
Everyone wants to fuck Latinas, to deny it would be pure cope, but you would cut your own son's leg off, just for what amounts to nothing but meaningless comfort.

[Anonymous No.50872115]

>>50858227
>Anyplace that says they’re like a family is the biggest red flag they with abuse you and never raise your pay.
This. At one of my old jobs, the big bosses would double down on the faux family talk whenever they were about to do something that would screw over or piss off their staff. Years later, they still wonder why they keep bleeding employees to competitors that are openly scummy, but at least offer much better pay.

[Anonymous No.50872295]

>>50856079
Sounds like an emotionally manipulative business culture. “Omg you’re so amazing, great talent, we want to work with you” = flattery to disarm you into working for less.
Acting offended at you negotiating your worth is a feminized manipulation tactic to make you feel bad for asking for more money.
Stick to your guns anon, as long as you are aware of how they are trying to manipulate you then you can nullify its influence.

[Anonymous No.50872503]

>>50858336
she looks like she would live as a housewife and waste her money on fancy things, or even stupid things like soccer nfts, being latina it is in her blood to somehow obsess about things like champ, the balls are in her veins

[Anonymous No.50872697]

>>50869572
Its the moorish dna in Spaniards that gives them the "curves" which have become the "in" sex appeal.

[Anonymous No.50872711]

>>50856079
They still haven't called me back guys. Are these fucks hardballing me?

[Anonymous No.50872714]

>>50871575
This is prolly the realest nigga in herre

[Anonymous No.50872732]

>>50859080
Just go to the closest la michoacana. It’s so fucking easy. I like to go the the tortilla section and pick up the most expensive. Mexican bitches be thirsty af for high end tortillas. Offer to cook her some tortilla and egg. Put some Mayo in it. She’ll be sucking your dick. Mexicans can’t afford Mayo but absolutely crave it.

[Anonymous No.50872776]

>>50872711
Stop worrying, if you're meant to get it, it'll happen, if not it won't. Worry is like a rocking chair, gives you something to do, but wont get anywhere. If you need something to do, apply to other jobs. If you really wanted this job, or needed this job you should have humbled yourself. Otherwise, know your worth, stop worrying, and have confidence that they'll call. It is a typical negotiating technique to make the opposition worry by using ambiguity and uncertainty about ones position, especially if you've got the upper hand in the exchange. They want to through you off balance make you doubt yourself, "maybe im not worth that 10% increase, maybe I should just settle." Don't give in to that.

[Anonymous No.50872939]

>>50856079
>>50856079
what was the offer? and what is the position? are you qualified?

[Anonymous No.50872958]

>>50859789
>has obviously never bought a car:
>that price doesn’t include taxes and fees

[Anonymous No.50872975]

>>50856439
so you are a pussy who just gave away 5% before even hearing the faggots reply to your first offer. fucking retard

[Anonymous No.50872997]

>>50857523
dont feel bad they were spying and stealing to enslave you later

[Anonymous No.50873074]

>>50869912
you need to have billions of dollars for her and she's worth every penny.

[Anonymous No.50873355]

>>50856079
For me it's the goblin on the right

[Anonymous No.50873407]

>>50856079
standard negotiating for employment / compensation agreement.
ya doin fine kid.
don't let them low ball you

[Anonymous No.50873456]

>>50873407
>>50872776
Kek, they just called me with a 10% increase. Fucking recruiters man

[Anonymous No.50873460]

>>50871575
>Shit that definitely happened
But I agree with the premise- HR gets the rope

[Anonymous No.50873495]

>>50856079
Should've acted offended by first offer, forcing them to make a second offer.
Then adding 25% to second offer.
Then meeting in the middle.

They are playing games on you, you should play them back.

[Anonymous No.50873677]

>>50860171
>Latinas have White European admixture and also Latina genes are recessive, White genes are dominant. So my future Latina wife will birth White babies.

Then why is she Latina and not white already?

[Anonymous No.50873696]

>>50856079
he’s mad cause they thought they could get you cheap cause you were showing interest

[Anonymous No.50873777]

>>50871575
fake ass story

[Anonymous No.50873889]

Does anyone know why Colombians have such big tits? It's a very obvious pattern on cam sites. Columbians have high rates of huge tits. Why?

[Anonymous No.50873968]

>>50871575
>True story
>Be me.
>Walk into interview completely naked.
>Knock over desk lamps and monitors with my massive swinging cock.
>HR roastie begs me to fuck her in the ass.
>I don't even acknowledge her.
>Walk right past her into the bosses office and and start face fucking him until blood comes out of his ears.
>Everyone in the office watches and cheers me on with high fives and whistles.
>$10,000,000 USD is transfered into my account that night as a signing bonus.
>I don't accept the offer, but I keep the signing bonus anyway.

[Anonymous No.50876027]

>>50856079
>I thought it was a common practice to not blindly accept the first offer a company does
Depends on the job, the industry, the country.

Where I am (Germany) you can ask for more, but if there is more than one applicant, you are just told no.

[Anonymous No.50877100]

>>50859789
>You can't change the salary after finding out more about the job
Interview goes both ways. If I interview with a company I want to know things like overtime requirements, how stressful the job is going to be, what skills I'll develop, etc etc. Depending on what I find, the salary may need to be higher or lower.
If you've made some sort of guarantee with the client on expected salary then that's your problem and your mistake. I haven't agreed to shit until I sign a contract.