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[Anonymous No.50667244]

How do we make the rich start paying taxes again?

[Anonymous No.50667795]

Hello?

[Anonymous No.50667823]

>How do we…
Not your personal army faggot, do it yourself

[Anonymous No.50667825]

Land value tax

[Anonymous No.50668398]

When you speak to people about taxes you quickly realize that most people operate on this notion in their head that that once the money the government demands from people/corporations in the form of taxes gets paid, it immediately gets used for the betterment of society and that's the last time that money will ever be used in a relevant manner. This is obviously a position that cannot withstand the slightest bit of scrutiny, but most people calling for higher taxes or less methods of tax avoidance simply never dug deep enough at their own beliefs to realise this.
Once you realise that tax money is simply reintroduced into the economy through government sanctioned ways you might not be as vehement on taxing the rich or whatever. People call for people like Elon Musk to get taxed more while completely unaware that he made his fortune by government contracts and subsidies. The people at the top know that there is far more to the tax game than to simply pay as little taxes as possible, they know how to get the government to give them taxes out of a pool that not only they paid for, but also small fish like you and me.
And remember: Income tax was introduced as a way to only tax the super wealthy at first, and look where we are now.

[Anonymous No.50668456]

I've said for a long time, the one thing you could get lefties and righties to agree on is that the tax code needs simplified. The only reason it's complicated is so that the fat cats can game it. If you can't afford an accountant or don't have tons of capital generating passive income you're out.

Simplify the code. Lower the rates across all brackets and simplify the code, you'll ironically get more revenue because they won't be able to use credits/deductions/offshoring/long term capital gains and whatever the fuck else.

[Anonymous No.50668485]

>>50668398

It is really, really difficult to have a serious discussion about taxes with people who think like this, yes. They don't understand that an army of bureaucratic grifters, contract queens, welfare queens, and whoever else get their big cut of their tax money before it finally makes its way to something "useful" (maybe). Really it's an atrociously oversized grift machine.

Honestly, if I was a state admin I'd probably do the same thing. Trick these retards into handing over their money for nothing, stay a tax slave until you're 70 and get your peanuts ass social security.

[Anonymous No.50668492]

>>50667244
Taxes are bullshit anyways. No one should be paying taxes, especially not the poor.

[Anonymous No.50668493]

>>50667823
spbp
absolutely rugpulled
reply not needed

[Anonymous No.50668520]

>>50667244
cringe faggot the top 1% pay something like 40% of ALL taxes in the US, get fucked commie kike

[Anonymous No.50668537]

>>50668520

The thing they don't tell you is that it's the people making $200k-1.5m in actual earned, working income paying all that tax, not the people making $10m+ per year off of passive capital income. There are different levels to being rich. There's working rich and then rich rich, rich rich evade like hell and can afford the lobbyists to keep that train going.

[Anonymous No.50668546]

>>50668456
>this man has committed a crime and I have caught him
>>do you have a lawyer?
>well, no... but I suppose I could hire one
>>the other man has a very expensive lawyer on retainer
>>you are being countersued unless you shut the fuck up
>>do you want to be broke and subject to legal skullfuckings once a year for the rest of your life?
Many such cases! They rig the systems to protect those with the most money and then charge you for attempting to engage with those systems.

[Anonymous No.50668555]

>>50667244
Lot of poor people are poor because they don't understand money. It only makes logical sense why they're obsessed with taxes. They think money and wealth are fixed commodities which can be hoarded.

They have a weak understanding of market bubbles and think some billionaire is actually hoarding wealth by owning 15% of an unprofitable tech company lol

[Anonymous No.50668567]

>>50668546

This concept is strikingly true, and hard to convey to the average midwit. They think "government program" or regulation and think it's a protection for them. Not always. Sometimes it's a barrier, a weapon for people with means to use to entrench their power and status. Most monopolies in history didn't come about because of a "too free" market, they came about because one big company and the government colluded to make it so.

[Anonymous No.50668702]

>>50668520
One thing I'll never understand is why the poor and middle class vote against their own interest by voting for rightists. I mean, at least with Ivan here we know he's forced to spread the propaganda - whether or not he actually believes it himself is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.50668729]

>>50668702

>the solution to fixing a big state that enslaves and rapes me of money for their own gain is to vote for a bigger state
>well uhh yeah they're just not "taxing the rich enough"
>goes ahead and raises all income tax brackets while leaving the loopholes alone

You're a dancing monkey anon

[Anonymous No.50668786]

>>50668729
Wrong post, Ivan? Not sure who you're quoting there.

[Anonymous No.50668814]

>>50668786
>Wrong post, Ivan? Not sure who you're quoting there.

AHAHA RUSSIAN BOTS!! WE DID IT LEDDIT

[Anonymous No.50668867]

>>50668702

>le party of the people

LOL

[Anonymous No.50668893]

>>50668702
>knocks on your head
>faint echo
Hello?
>elloo.. elloo....
>

[Anonymous No.50668921]

>>50668867

It is dude. They give them legal weed and tranny communist class in public schools, in return they give 50% of everything they make and stay in wage/tax servitude until they're 75 and decrepit. A fair trade

[Anonymous No.50668968]

>>50668814
>>50668867
>>50668893
Bot-like, perhaps, but you're not nearly as sophisticated as an actual AI. Vatnik is certainly more fitting.

[Anonymous No.50668990]

>Bot-like, perhaps, but you're not nearly as sophisticated as an actual AI. Vatnik is certainly more fitting.

[Anonymous No.50669015]

>>50668990
>Bot-like, perhaps, but you're not nearly as sophisticated as an actual AI. Vatnik is certainly more fitting.
Correct!

[Anonymous No.50669021]

>>50668555
checked

[Anonymous No.50669024]

>Correct!

[Anonymous No.50669091]

>>50667244
Make a country worth paying taxes to.

[Anonymous No.50669103]

Georgism, Land Value Tax

[Anonymous No.50669351]

>>50668398
>completely unaware that he made his fortune by government contracts and subsidies

Bullship

[Anonymous No.50669368]

>>50668485
Military has to be at least $700 billion now

[Anonymous No.50669389]

>>50669368

They're all on a big fat scheduled inflation schedule. There is no such thing as a budget cut in the federal government.

[Anonymous No.50670091]

>>50667244
By hanging them.

[Anonymous No.50671020]

>>50668702
If you really want to be a slave that bad, just move to a muslim county.

[Anonymous No.50671025]

>>50667244
>>50667795
fuck off jew

[Anonymous No.50671343]

>>50668555
If money can't be hoard then what do you do with it?

[Anonymous No.50671443]

>>50667244
Why do you care about Americans paying taxes? What are you, Israeli? Ukrainian? Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.50671456]

How do we stop commie posting on biz?

[Anonymous No.50671526]

I’ve always wondered, how exactly does one set up a shell company?

[Anonymous No.50671571]

>>50671526

its the same as a regular company, just a form and small fee

[Anonymous No.50671739]

>>50671020
I'm not a rightist

[Anonymous No.50671819]

>>50671739
Yes you are pro-slavery!

[Anonymous No.50671833]

>>50671819
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.50671858]

>>50667244
>we
who the fuck is "we"

[Anonymous No.50671970]

>>50671443
>Why do you care about Americans paying taxes?
Because I'm American

[Anonymous No.50672077]

change the tax brackets
$1m a year = 90% income tax
$10m a year = 99% income tax
$100m a year = 99.99% income tax
problem solved

[Anonymous No.50672144]

>>50672077
100k a year is poverty wage in places like california and new york

[Anonymous No.50672323]

>>50671970
Yes, we know, Ivan.

[Anonymous No.50673397]

>>50671833
You are a marxist, and Marx was about restoration of feudalism. feudalism depends upons serfs as slaves to government monopoly. If you had read, Étienne de La Boétie 1548 work,The Politics of Obedience: The Discourse of Voluntary Servitude.

[Anonymous No.50673427]

I don't give a shit about richfags paying taxes. I want them to turn on the engineering projects they've sat on for the past 50 fucking years. Where is our space elevator/launch loop/cannon? Where are our space solar power stations? Where are the big titty Martian bitches who suck like a vacuum? This timeline fucking sucks. I want my flying car damn it.

[Anonymous No.50673489]

>>50668702
You are correct but no one here will agree with you because they’re all Big Money Jew bootlickers who think they’re gonna make it some day