/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.50435751]

>People who willingly go into careers where you work 50-60 hrs a week

Why?

[Anonymous No.50435767]

>>50435751
I live in china

[Anonymous No.50435785]

>>50435751
poverty + hourly pay + race to the bottom + no collective bargining + hustle culture

[Anonymous No.50435798]

>>50435785
>hustle culture

Isn't hustle Culture having two jobs?

[Anonymous No.50435811]

>>50435751
small weiner
daddy problems

[Anonymous No.50435817]

>>50435798
can be. I see it more as "burn the candle at both ends while you can"

[Anonymous No.50435875]

worked ~60 hours last week as a construction inspector.

Good overtime, work alone, don't have many problems at work as long as you do a good job and finish reports on time. I love it. The overtime is great in summer but in the winter, not enough hours because of poor weather

[Anonymous No.50436083]

>>50435751
I hate my wife and kids. I'd rather stay at work all week. Once my kids are grown I can take all the money I stashed away and disappear

[Anonymous No.50436178]

>>50436083
based. whyd you do it in the first place?

[Anonymous No.50436271]

>>50435751
I unironically love fucking bragging about how much hours I work compared to these sheep. Every time I hear one of these nerds talk about muh 40 hours, sick days, vacations, I get irrationally angry. Like how the fuck are you such a lazy piece of shit that you need a vacation from sitting down all day and putting numbers into a fucking excel.

t. Welder that makes more than you. Working an honest 15 is a fucking mans job no pussies allowed. My job is my vacation.

[Anonymous No.50436390]

>>50436271

Damn man, was only posting my experience. I hope I didn't come across that way. Let me know if you have any advice for me.

[Anonymous No.50436461]

>>50436390
Eh I’m just larping to be honest.

[Anonymous No.50436475]

>>50436271
goy slave christcuck grindset

[Anonymous No.50436492]

Much love to all of you.

[Anonymous No.50436580]

>>50436271
Yess yess good goy. You keep putting in those hours! Time off is for pussies. No need to live a life outside of work. Very good goys make Mr. Noseberg very happy.

[Anonymous No.50436594]

>>50436271
based slave worker, keep working hard you cuck! you're a big strong man, working all those hours, trump 2024!!

[Anonymous No.50436633]

>>50436271
imagine unironically bragging about working for the man, shiggy diggy doo bro. youre making 1/10th the actual value of your labor, if that, maximum.

[Anonymous No.50436644]

>>50436178
Jews need money and moloch needs new calf

[Anonymous No.50436675]

Grindmaxxing as much as I can in my 20's to stash away and let investments compound.

[Anonymous No.50436772]

>>50436675
Now this is actually based.

[Anonymous No.50436775]

>>50435751
I love working. I'm a software engineer.

I don't have a social life, friends, or a gf. If I'm not working I have nothing to do. work is the only thing that brings me some joy and satisfaction

[Anonymous No.50436816]

>>50435751
don't know how to /biz/

[Anonymous No.50436841]

>>50435751
Because I steal food, office supplies, break room supplies after everyone leaves.

[Anonymous No.50436880]

My previous job didn't pay super well and it was a cushy gig in an office so I was happy to work 50-60 hours a week. New job pays more so may noy need to do that, but when OT is available i'll probably try to get it. Wanna have more cushion in case the economic conditions get super rough.

[Anonymous No.50436892]

>>50436271

>Structural Engineer
>Put wrong welds on a drawing because im working from home rushing the job to play video games
>You do it the right way anyways
>I get paid more

Funny world.

[Anonymous No.50436937]

>>50435751
I am poor and couldn’t get anything else

[Anonymous No.50436953]

>>50436271
>t. Welder that makes more than you
kek, no you don't, and I work from home.

[Anonymous No.50436966]

>>50435751
Thats the amount of time it actually takes to do something important you lazy piece of shit

[Anonymous No.50437138]

>>50436271
>>50436966
Pozzed wagies trying to defend people being overworked

[Anonymous No.50437199]

>>50435751
Money.
I got out in three years and now I’m a NEET writing a book.

[Anonymous No.50437215]

>>50436892
VERY based poster here

[Anonymous No.50437246]

>>50435751
Overtime is the only way to make any savings, otherwise it just goes to continuing my meaningless existence

[Anonymous No.50437256]

>>50435785
I partake in hustle culture because I want out of it. All of it.

[Anonymous No.50437261]

>>50436633
I’ve made more than the value of my labor that I’ve provided to my employer
>t. Untenured sales rep that started 6 months ago

[Anonymous No.50437616]

I like my work and want to rise in the ranks
not that much else

[Anonymous No.50437690]

>>50436271
Wow what are you doing here? Stay away from stocks and crypto anon its basically gambling.

t. 0 hours worked per week for a longgggg time

[Anonymous No.50437709]

>>50436892
Ive unfortunately seen this in many things. Lowest man in the totem pole has to fix the mistakes. No time to waste complainimg or doing it wrong because you'll likely bear responsibility.

[Anonymous No.50437721]

>>50435751
i should be at work in 1 minute but i still dont have clothes on.

[Anonymous No.50438003]

I worked 14 hours today and made about $800 before taxes. I will work around 9-10 hours the next 4 days and make about $2k after taxes for the week. I would say it's worth it for a single dude

[Anonymous No.50438072]

>>50437709
>well you knew it was wrong, whyd you docit like that. are you not a professional, we've been training you for 2 years now. Fucking smarten up.

[Anonymous No.50438483]

>>50435751
What the fuck do you mean by this. Like, have you never worked as a barista or in a call center? That's the shittiest low entry job you could have and every single one of my friends have, in some points of their lives, worked there. You just do it, love it, hate it, you end up wasting 50 hours a week just to make ends meet. Now if you want to go past it, to really really make it, im just gonna mention QOM and go away, you do with that what you must

[Anonymous No.50438549]

>>50436271
welding is for fags

[Anonymous No.50438575]

>>50435751
literally if I'm not working, I'm just browsing this shithole. it's hell. work is a necessary diversion

[Anonymous No.50438585]

>Bragging about working long hours

Lol

[Anonymous No.50438597]

Because they pay me over 200k a year.

[Anonymous No.50438661]

>>50438483
What is in QOM that I can't find elsewhere?

[Anonymous No.50438712]

>>50435751
any of you press operators, or machinists? Worth it? How do I get into it? School the only route?

[Anonymous No.50438720]

Work is fun

[Anonymous No.50439033]

>>50435751
they probably like money. I don't understand working that much either, but for some people it makes sense. My best friend is a truck driver who hauls fuel. He works 50-60 hour weeks, but he takes home about 115k per year. Not bad

Meanwhile I work 40 hours per week and take home 40k per year

[Anonymous No.50439155]

>>50436461
Based

[Anonymous No.50439905]

>>50438661
u fcking midwit low iq... short all fcking big companys in stock market that has any contracts or business there... long term 2 to 4 years. You already know what they do when some shithole middle east start saying they have nuclear weapons.

[Anonymous No.50439932]

>>50436775
>software engineer
Say no more, people know you're a loser already.

[Anonymous No.50439964]

>>50435751
So I can earn good money to buy more QANX.

I don't want to be a neet like you, living in his grandma basement.

[Anonymous No.50440025]

I do know shit coin called QOM but when I see news about iran and checked map of oil production what I found it... any low iq general could see it in few weeks....

[Anonymous No.50440051]

>>50436271
>t. Welder that makes more than you

Ha. Whatever you say wagie.

t. Made 23k last month selling Toyota’s to idiots like you.

[Anonymous No.50440355]

>>50435751
1) Vanity. They get off on the status, the prestige, the money, the power such high-powered jobs usually entail (or entail once you get through the valley of shit and become a partner).
2) Not knowing any better. Seriously, a bunch of people think this is the way it "has to be" if they want to work in that field or make use of their education. Who is going to correct them? The company/firm? They'll happily exploit that mindset.

In the end everyone has different priorities. I have a law degree, but I'm staying as far away from that morally corrupt hamster wheel as possible. I could be laden with cash at my age, but I'd be a physical and psychological wreck. I'm very happy with my lifestyle where I work around 5-10 hours a week and earn just enough to get by. I'm certainly a lot happier that way. People call me a "failure" and "wasting my education". They have no idea how insane they are. What do I need tons of cash for if all I do is work and die early? But hey, if that is *your* idea of a good life, who am I to stop you?

[Anonymous No.50440977]

>>50440355

Spot on.

I would actually expand the scope of OP's original question. These days with the availability of remote working, it's easy to get a 40-hour per week job and maybe end up working 2-3 hours per day. So why do people still choose to voluntarily go into the office more than required or work jobs where they have less freedom?

There is a corollary in the mindset of people who choose to do this or choose to work 50-60 hours per week - the vanity/ not knowing any better points mentioned above. When you really dig down into the psychology of it, most of these people have accepted this as 'the way it is' and don't feel trapped by it. They don't really dream of getting out of it or to eventually stop working for others and have most of their time to self-actualise. They have accepted that they will work 9-5 every week until retirement with a set amount of time each year they can take for a vacation.

For me and many others here, the idea of accepting this lifestyle feels suffocating. That is, to reduce your life to weekends and 3 or 4 weeks' holiday per year is scary. But they don't see it that way. For example, my job pays me 50k and is very comfy WFH - I also run a business which I am focused on growing. Normies think that I'm wasting potential cause I could easily double my salary if I tried to progress in my career - but that would come at the cost of my time and life.

This is a good thing for people like us who think differently though. We have more opportunity with less competition.

[Anonymous No.50441197]

50-60 hours is normal you lazy fucks. Japan and other first world countries work 80-90 hours a week no problem, that might be western countries are such shitholes.

[Anonymous No.50441242]

>>50435751
low IQ and/or subservient wagecattle demeanor. i worked in a big 4 accounting firm for like 9 months. left as soon as i found a better job that didn't make me work 50-60 hours a week with a 5-10 hour weekly commute for $57k/year.

[Anonymous No.50441246]

>>50441197
Fuck off with your slave mentality you piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.50441253]

>>50435751
I'd imagine most have no friends or hobbies

[Anonymous No.50441268]

>>50441246
you've likely never worked a day in your life you fat sweaty neet autist. in a developed first world nation, 50-60 hours a week is the bare fucking minimum. thats why countries like Japan and China are doing so well while the lazy and entitled West reverts back to third world tier.

[Anonymous No.50441305]

>>50441268
creativity and productivity decline rapidly after the first 4-6 hours. if your job regularly involves 10-12 hour days, you're likely a retard doing highly repetitive retard tier work i.e. your labor is meaningless and will soon be automated or outsourced. better luck in the next life, niggerbrain.

[Anonymous No.50441307]

>>50436271
holy cope, YIKES.

[Anonymous No.50441349]

>>50441268
>Thinks Japan is doing well
This has to be bait. Either that or you're a degenerate weeb. Japan is doing horribly you daft cunt.

Their work culture is the sole reason why people are killing themselves and not having sex.

And even after all those working hours they make fuck all because their currency is completely fucked.

[Anonymous No.50441363]

Most "jobs" people go to shouldn't pay them at all. They should be more like unpaid internships. Their goal should be for you to hone your skills so that you can get a job that actually pays a wage or prepares you to start your own business. For example, if you clean toilets at the movie theater, that should not be a paying job and you should be required to provide your own "tools of the trade" such as spray and wipes. Maybe if you work really hard and starve enough, you can start your own toilet cleaning company.

[Anonymous No.50441392]

>>50435751
I don't put in these hours but I'm surrounded by people who do. As far as I can tell there is something they are getting from their jobs I just don't. Don't understand it really.

I mean it's just a job. If you didn't want to spend time with your family why did you have one.

[Anonymous No.50441399]

I work about 60 hours a week and I am paid for 40. I can't remember the last time I ate lunch. I have never taken a PTO or sick day. I usually work most of the weekend at home. God, I love wageslaving.

[Anonymous No.50441413]

>>50441349
>japan is doing le bad even though they have the third largest economy on earth, quick import 10 million niggers and legalise buttsex!!!1

fuck off. japan is the cleanest, most organised, crime free place on earth with the best cuisine and their media dominates. not even a weeb, but japan makes the west look like a shithole bar some rural areas in europe

[Anonymous No.50441424]

>>50441305
>creativity and productivity decline rapidly after the first 4-6 hours.
for retards

[Anonymous No.50441432]

>>50440977
I have plenty of friends who are content with mediocracy and don’t aspire for anything more in life. It’s tonight sometimes being their friends, I would like to have a more meaningful conversation other than old memories or what’s a good beer

[Anonymous No.50441440]

You have to understand that a majority of the population are irredeemable drones. I'm talking 85-90%. Consider every job you've ever had. Surely you've heard coworkers discuss their weekend plans or what they do in their spare time. They watch Netflix. They go out to a bar. That's about it. Do they read literature? Do they practice some form of art? Learn a new language? They simply do not understand that they have only ONE life and that to spend it waging, eating hamburgers, and watching jew trash is a horrifying and unforgivable betrayal of the self. Every second spent in some shithole office shuffling Excel spreadsheets should feel like bamboo shoots under their fingernails, but they simply don't get it.

[Anonymous No.50441446]

>>50441432
Tough*

[Anonymous No.50441464]

>>50435751
It’s the best risk adjusted way to get rich

t. work at investment bank

[Anonymous No.50441505]

>>50441305
Japan is better than your country will ever be

[Anonymous No.50441535]

I don't know. I've stayed part time at my deli job because I can't stand being there for more than 6 hours, but some of the fuckers there still try to egg me on into going full-time or working closing (lol). It'd be good for my pockets, but I'd rather hope my crypto bags pump enough to get me by.

[Anonymous No.50441557]

>>50441424
you're not qualified to make this judgement. we've already established this by your pattern of routinely working 10-12 hours a day.

[Anonymous No.50441561]

>>50441268
You're making incorrect assumptions. I work full-time in finance but I'm comfy WFH. I focus on my online business to make money, not fighting for a marginal pay raise and sucking some partner's dick. Fuck off to Japan

[Anonymous No.50441639]

>>50441268
Are you actually advocating that people should want to wok 50-60 hours per week? Or just making some general argument about productivity.

[Anonymous No.50441747]

>>50441639
50/50 between being a troll post and being one of those 'muh hard work' wagies who cope with a debilitatingly low salary by working absurd amounts of overtime. i saw it all the time when i worked at a shithole factory for $17/hour. team leaders loved to brag that we """"could"""" make a whopping $50-60k a year, if we wanted to work 10-12 hours a day. it came at the cost of having no personal life, not seeing your kids grow up, missing birthdays/holidays/afterschool events, having constant relationship troubles with wife/gf due to never being home, etc.

[Anonymous No.50441827]

>>50441747
There are other ways. I have a friend who isn't skilled but works 2 or 3 remote full-time jobs simultaneously e.g. telemarketing or data entry. He's pulling in the equivalent of about 50-60k. Gets busy but still always a 9-5 and WFH. You should switch up

[Anonymous No.50441856]

>>50441827
i went back to school, now i wfh in corporate accounting making good money. unless you're a business owner putting in hard work up front with the goal of reducing your hours in the future, fuck consistently working >40 hours a week ever again.

[Anonymous No.50441876]

At any moment in time you can work 60 hrs a week and stack up your money for 90-120 days and start a small business.

[Anonymous No.50441894]

>>50435751
Some people see suffering as something cool
I dont get it

[Anonymous No.50441936]

Did you people not read the bait 15 hour work welder guy say he was larping two posts after you stupid ESL pieces of ADHD driven shits?

[Anonymous No.50441978]

Working in a kitchen sounds like fucking hell and they love to brag about doing 65 hours a week what a joke fuck them

[Anonymous No.50442025]

50435751
50438585
50438597
Hello tourists, you can go back now.

[Anonymous No.50442052]

>>50436675
same here

[Anonymous No.50442139]

>>50436675
People don't realize how fucking easy it is to make it if you just do this. Live cheap, invest everything in your 20's. It's the most important decade of your life in terms of financial security. While your normie friends blow their savings on trips and other bullshit, you'll be retired in your early 30's while they still have to wage kek

[Anonymous No.50442515]

>>50436892
Don't worry t.welder gets to brag about all the free work he does because he's a cuckwager.

I got a degree in welding technology and I make more money as a janitor working part time, changing my career to hvac because nobody pays welders very well and the work is fucking exhausting.

[Anonymous No.50442557]

>>50435751
I love what I do. I have a 40 hour workweek but I volunteer for overtime every week.

[Anonymous No.50442586]

>>50442515
based. welding is a meme. unless you live in an area with specialized heavy industry (high pressure vessels, nuclear reactors, naval works, gas pipelines, etc.) the pay is shit. saw it happen to my friends who did the lern2weld meme during the marcellus shale boom. a lot of them made six figures during the pipeline construction years. then the project was finished and they were laid off. a few followed pipeline work around the country. some got welding jobs in local fab shops or industrial maintenance contract shops for shit money ($15-20/hour.) many changed careers to trucking, industrial maintenance, etc.
>DUDE JUST MOVE TO ALABAMA AND WAGE FOR 5 YEARS AS A HELPER JUST FOR THE CHANCE TO UNDERWATER WELD SO YOU CAN MAKE $150K/YEAR AND SHAVE 15 YEARS OFF YOUR LIFE EXPECTANCY LMAO

[Anonymous No.50442715]

>>50436475
>>50436580
>>50436594
>>50436633
>>50437138
>>50438585
>>50441307
>OHMYFUCKINGGOD HE'S DOING SOMETHING HE ENJOYS FOR FIFTEEN HOURS A DAY???
>FIFTEEN HOURS????
>THATS, LIKE, SO LONG
>THATS HOW LONG IT'D TAKE ME TO JACK OFF TO LIKE, UHHH, 30 TIMES!!!!
>WAIT DOES HE ACTTUALLY LIKE DOING THINGS ASIDE FROM JACKING OFF AND PLAYING VIDEO GAMES??? WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?
>I CANT BELIEVE HE SPENDS MOST OF THE DAY GETTING PAID WELL FOR SOMETHING HE ENJOYS INSTEAD OF GAMBLING SHITCOINS AND WATCHING PORN
>WHAT A ONIONS POZZED NPC JEW SHILL GOY KEK

[Anonymous No.50443012]

>>50435751
Tax accounting is soul crushing. I only went into it because my parents told me to. I’m thinking of going back to school to find a job where I only have to work 40 hours a week. I’m just not good at much. I couldn’t do programming. I’ve thought about IT but that’s saturated. I really have no idea how to escape this. It’s total hell.

[Anonymous No.50443075]

>>50436271
Coulda been better.

[Anonymous No.50443088]

>>50443012
if you have no interest in buying or starting your own firm, pivot into corporate accounting.

t. former big 4 audit wagie now a wfh senior accountant at a megacorp doing maybe 30 hours a week

[Anonymous No.50443132]

>>50440051
>t. Made 23k last month selling Toyota’s to idiots like you.

Ha. Whatever you say wagie.

t. Made 112k last month selling coke to idiots like you.

[Anonymous No.50443147]

because i like what i do

[Anonymous No.50443162]

>>50443012
Go work for the IRS or some other government gig. Only way to make it in accounting. And they're desperate for people.

[Anonymous No.50443222]

>>50443088
I’m in industry now. It’s far, far worse than public accounting. There are basically no jobs in tax out there. Everyone wants someone fresh out of public accounting and there’s no way I’m going back to public at this point.

[Anonymous No.50443271]

>>50443222
sucks. maybe consider IRS like >>50443162 said. i actually got a job offer from them but turned it down. pay is kind of shit but it's comfy, especially when you get a few years experience and can promote out of small business/self employed tax and into large business & international tax or tax exempt & government.

the "you can do general accounting work with a tax background" meme is such a meme, thank god i dodged that bullet.

[Anonymous No.50443278]

>>50443162
I tried getting a job at my state revenue department but they prioritize current employees and union members. I interviewed with them and they never replied. I checked LinkedIn afterwards and it got filled by someone who already worked there. There aren’t any IRS jobs in my area. The IRS hiring process also takes around six months. It seems like a new place to work though. It kills me to see people done for the day at 5:00 without a worry in the world. That’s all I want. I’m even open to temp jobs at this point. Anything to stop this.

[Anonymous No.50443280]

>>50441197
>80-90 hours a week no problem
>highest teen suicide rate in the world
yes, once you cull everyone that can't be inured to that kind of soul-sucking drudgery, your society can function that way.

[Anonymous No.50443303]

>>50443271
I definitely could do general accounting work since I have a BS in accounting and I’m a CPA. I just doubt anyone would hire me since I’m six years in and would have to start at a low staff position.

[Anonymous No.50443359]

>>50443271
Also curious about the IRS offer you got. How long did the hiring process take? Did you have to make a multi-page resume? I’ve read that federal resumes have to be quite long.

[Anonymous No.50443401]

>>50443303
if you have a CPA just apply to senior accountant jobs, fuck it. i'll even risk doxing myself. CVS health is hiring multiple wfh senior accountant jobs. $85k/year + 10% bonus. we're interviewing complete retards with a bachelors in accounting, no CPA, multiple typos on their resume, and 1-2 years of experience in AP or AR. go to the corporate website (not linkedin/indeed) and apply right now, you stand a good chance at getting an interview.

[Anonymous No.50443422]

>>50436271
this man's entire self-worth is wrapped up in waging. not the first person i've met like that.

[Anonymous No.50443502]

>>50443359
this was a year ago. i can't remember exactly but i want to say it was 3-4 months from initial application to job offer. i did a multi-page resume. basically just followed https://www.usajobs.gov/help/how-to/account/documents/resume/build/ and a few other online guides.

the interview is weird as hell. four managers on a group call. audio only, no video, and it's a phone call not zoom/teams/etc. they each as you 1-2 questions. as you answer they all take notes on your response. interview was literally 20 minutes long, with the last 5 minutes being my asking them questions about the job. you can google the questions as they recycle them year to year with little variation. the questions aren't technical in the slightest. purely behavioral and you want to emphasize that you're a good little wagecuck who follows protocol to the letter.

as part of the job application you will be asked to do a "skills assessment" which is BARELY technical. there's also a small technical writing exercise, where you basically type a mock memo/summary of a mock taxpayer interview. i did well enough to get an interview and an offer with 0 knowledge of tax.

[Anonymous No.50443601]

>>50443502
Thanks very much. I’ll look into it.

[Anonymous No.50443895]

>>50436271
> Every time I hear one of these nerds talk about muh 40 hours, sick days, vacations, I get irrationally angry.
Jesus Christ calm down wagie, nobody's taking rabbi's leash from your neck

[Anonymous No.50443969]

>not working 40 hours for shlomo and 30 extra hours to work on yourself
Slaves.

[Anonymous No.50444333]

>>50440977
What comfy wfh do you have? I just landed a low paying wfh customer support job but it sucks answering phones all day and I cant really travel which is what I want since all work has to be done from my home ip. Hoping to do this for a few months then apply for something better

[Anonymous No.50445311]

>>50435751
I don't know either, especially considering you could be making 80% apy staking MAXX finance token or 13% APY staking NEAR in your wallet.

[Anonymous No.50445426]

>>50436271
>bragging about being your company's bitch
Wow anon, you sure are better than us

[Anonymous No.50445545]

>>50444333
Work in a comfy finance job. Why don't you just get a telemarketing job which is less demanding, look on Linkedin for remote jobs