/XMR/ Monero General

[Anonymous No.50394182]

Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptos. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier of entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward will gradually approach 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://youtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4 [Embed]

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather
My Monero
Exodus

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

[Anonymous No.50394202]

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>50353528

[Anonymous No.50394204]

previous thread >>50353528

[Anonymous No.50394218]

STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL
STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't; It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png

P2Pool-compatible remote nodes if you do not have your own local copy of the blockchain:

>p2pmd.xmrvsbeast.com - (Western Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)
>myxmr.net - (Northern Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)

OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend only on your hashrate, not on the pool's hashrate.

https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

[Anonymous No.50394241]

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

[Anonymous No.50394263]

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.


>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with XMR!
https://monerica.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace
https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/
https://acceptedhere.io/catalog/currency/xmr/


>Support Monero-only darknet markets/vendors

>AlphaBay
http://alphabay522szl32u4ci5e3iokdsyth56ei7rwngr2wm7i5jo54j2eid.onion

>Asur Market
http://asuradsh6gbnppvmsqyfumjdux7iwwo54w5tkgcdspjsnvcm6oepxvqd.onion

>Chimera Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
http://chimera4sbuapqzajx2d3sptk3sazz5gc5pzstaistvasegw3nepv3qd.onion

>FilthyFellas
http://filthygerfvjetqrkjg2mpsqhepmb2ndrhhj6n3266ju4xh6uir2kiad.onion

>Mellow Market (recently launched, exercise caution)
http://mellownx5c2tkrmrvvsnbfdnm3zvp6ozqdyuwwtgd7ivaae5noavwoad.onion


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https://www.monerochan.art/

[Anonymous No.50394298]

>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

[Anonymous No.50394317]

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

[Anonymous No.50394484]

Zcash is the true moon mission, ZKP tech is the future and Monero is already obsolete.

[Anonymous No.50394594]

>>50394484

Holy shit, you trannies are annoying. Read the room, moron: NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR CORPORATE SPYCOIN.

Now go shill to the normies on Twitter, its the only platform you have left.

[Anonymous No.50394682]

Who do people give them (You)s on pretty much every single post they make
Like I know this is /biz/ but seriously I thought this was like the one good thread on /biz/

[Anonymous No.50394770]

Seriously, can these shilling fools get reported under these rules?
>raid
>extremely low quality
>spamming/flooding
>post is advertising or begging

This disturbance is getting ridiculous. It's in every thread now.
Also, stop responding to them, you're rewarding them with your attention and (you)s.

[Anonymous No.50395021]

>>50394594
>>50394682
>>50394770

lol what's the matter, afraid of a little competition? Good, you should be.

[Hodlin Caulfield No.50395024]

[Anonymous No.50395061]

>50395021
Priced in. ZKP is obsolete.
Cope

[Anonymous No.50395064]

It's literally a troll lol just ignore him. You are just fueling the flames.
Nobody actually uses zcash. That's why it's funny that you actually think he is a threat to Monero. We have already won the war on the dark net.

[Anonymous No.50395118]

I have a good feeling about today.

[Anonymous No.50395208]

Found one guy to do a Monero-chan ANSI commission. If anyone here is capable, I'd be willing to order more commissions.

[Anonymous No.50396039]

>>50395208
If it is good, donate it to the art fund and the fund can raise money for other commissions from that artist.

[Anonymous No.50396813]

>>50395064
This!!!
It's probably the Z-Trash CEO himself who's spamming here.

[Anonymous No.50396914]

>>50396813
I bet it´s just bored MoneroChads trolling and larping. No way someone would post shit that is this level of fucking cringe.

[Anonymous No.50397071]

>>50396914
>this level of fucking cringe.

Have you seen the Zeme Team's output?

https://zeme.team/

So yes, they really are THAT level of cringe.

[Anonymous No.50397156]

>>50396914
Anon, we will never know for sure, but in any case, it is pretty retarded to shill a shitcoin like Z-Trash in a Monero thread, where people know about Moneros superiority.

[Anonymous No.50397157]

lol

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.50397196]

Reporting in

tor irc- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/tzm4s
Aliases- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjbx3
Extras- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/daxte
Nodes- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/ke2k8
Mining- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/c7na4

[Anonymous No.50397216]

>>50397071
WTF, Z-Trashers really can't meme. They are exactly like lefties in that sense.
Not a single anti Monero meme on their site since they know their shitcoin has no chance against Monero in terms of security and privacy.
Lol.

[Anonymous No.50397373]

>>50397157
best zeme ever made

[Anonymous No.50397375]

>>50397156
BTW, where are the piratechain shills? I think the Secret Network shills are by far the worst and the most annoyng. Fucking hell i hate pajeets with teir shit english.

[Anonymous No.50397468]

Forget zcash, secrete and pirate; the only REAL competitor is Moneros upgrade called 0xmr!

[Anonymous No.50397522]

>>50397468
nakadashi but i'm still buying monero.

[Anonymous No.50397705]

>>50397468

[Anonymous No.50397800]

>>50394594
>>50394484
>>50395021
what competition?

[Anonymous No.50397832]

>>50394594
>>50395021
>>50394484
just accept you fucked up and launched your honeypot sloppily, and the dumb faggot you put in charge didn't do you any favors by tweeting this: https://twitter.com/zooko/status/863202798883577856?lang=en
now, do you want me to post more? or can you go back to your boss with your tail between your legs and say, "our current approach isn't working, but..."

[Anonymous No.50397913]

Please tell me the price is going to go down again. I'm not done accumulating ;~;

[Anonymous No.50397923]

>>50397832
>skull emojis
>three of them
shudder.gif

[Anonymous No.50397970]

>>50397923
unfortunately I was made aware of this image when it already had the skull emojis present, and I cannot be bothered to remove them for such a pathetic effort:reward ratio when the content still speaks for itself if you look under the hood of "lmao emojis"
greetings from kazakhstan
I hate globalists so much it's unreal

[Anonymous No.50398380]

>>50396039
Even he (zeus ii) said he was slow at doing pieces, so it'd be a while. The majority of ansi artists don't take commissions, finding willing artists is the main bottleneck. Luciano Ayres is the only one who takes commissions reliably, but he charges out the nose.

[Anonymous No.50399218]

[Anonymous No.50399729]

[Anonymous No.50399745]

>>50397923
The AWS involvement alone is a giant red flag. I know some of the AWS Cryptography guys, and I also know who AWS's federal customers are. If that team is working on Zcash instead of Monero it's because Zcash is the one that won't make their nocturnally luminescent customers cry.

[Anonymous No.50399814]

>>50397923
>>50397970
Don't worry guys, I've got your back.

[Anonymous No.50400107]

Zniggers, shouldn't you make your own thread soon? We're not really interested in Jewish moon scams here.

[Anonymous No.50400177]

>>50395021
>little competition
Emphasis on little, kek.

[Anonymous No.50400585]

>>50394182
v18 compiled and running

[Anonymous No.50401342]

>>50397375
I haven't been in all Monero Generals, but i have yet so far never encountered any Pirate Chain shills in the ones i have read or commented in.

[Anonymous No.50401446]

>>50397832
>JEWitter link
Holy shit, these comments. Absolutely NPC cattle tier.
Muhh no one but criminals want to have privacy. Privacy is suspect and an act of crime.
No amount of good memes (which they don't even have) that Z-Trashers could potentioally come up with could equal out what i read in the first 15 comments on there.

[Anonymous No.50401596]

what's the general consensus on spinner cash? love monero, but also do see the value of a chainagnostic mixer protocol

[Anonymous No.50401621]

>>50401596
For fuck sakes, stop coming here to shill. Christ.

[Anonymous No.50401622]

Any DEXs where I can trade monero for ERC-20s or ETH?

[Anonymous No.50402215]

>>50394218
what is a good cpu for mining xmr?

[Anonymous No.50402358]

Out of curiousity, what's the biggest DNM now that Whitehouse is out of the picture?

[Anonymous No.50402434]

>>50402215
https://xmrig.com/benchmark
assuming you're not going to pay eight thousand dollars to barely get a 40 year ROI, just mine on your desktop cpu

[Anonymous No.50402519]

I'm a senior in college for CS and basically still know hardly anything (it turns out getting in a programming community is infinitely more useful for learning how to do shit than relying on classes) but I want to know if I should pursue a graduate track to help contribute to monero. Do you have to go the cursed higher-IQ-than-I-have mathematics postgrad route to work with XMR, or do they need some non-cryptographic developers?

[Anonymous No.50402798]

>>50402215
Currently, the AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16x 3.40GHz is the best bang for the buck.
Is much cheaper than CPU's that cost more than double but only have a slightly better hashrate.
Allthough i think that depending on your kw/h price, you will never make a profit no matter what.

[Anonymous No.50402899]

>>50402358
Alphabay 2.0

[Anonymous No.50403491]

>>50402899
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.50403708]

If my version of XMR GUI Wallet gets out of date, does my balance become inaccurate?

[Anonymous No.50403726]

>>50402519
There's more than just high-level cryptography work to be done. The networking of privacy coins is pretty important too, and there's also stuff like RandomX to work on.

There's also accessibility stuff that needs to be worked on. Atomic swaps to BTC are not in a great shape right now, and atomic swaps to ETH are wip.

How about packaging for linux distros? Also where are all the plugins and libraries to make it easy to accept monero as a vendor? There's half an ecosystem of simple user-facing programs that don't exist yet.

[Anonymous No.50403784]

>>50402798
I coincidentally mined XMR the first day I build my new PC (5800X and solo mined a block reward myself. It paid itself off pretty much immediately, so I've let it run while I sleep as a solo miner now).

[Anonymous No.50403785]

>>50403708
possibly, if it is not fully synced

[Anonymous No.50404260]

>>50402899
Wasn't "Alphabay" that shitty store operated by an incel larping as "alpha" in thailand? Who in their right mind would revive that marketplace....

[Anonymous No.50404511]

>>50404260
>Multimillionere who fucked metric tons of women.
>Incel.
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.50404516]

Have you guys heard Micky Monero?

https://youtu.be/VoTeudzQGTo

[Anonymous No.50404964]

>>50401622
that image is retarded, fixed in picrel

[Anonymous No.50405058]

What is the cheapest way to exchange tainted BTC > XMR without using a mobile wallet?

I have used kilos and elude but they take up to 25% through shit rates. I heard that tor2door has a built in exchange with 2% fees, I would sign up for that just to exchange coins if it’s really that cheap.

[Anonymous No.50405215]

>>50405058

How tainted are we talking? Rejected-on-CEXs tainted or OFAC blacklist tainted?

[Anonymous No.50405281]

I’m getting home in like 5 hours and want to buy some more monero. Please suppress the price to at least 120. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.50405300]

>>50405215
Coins from a dnm that I don’t want to risk moving to a portable and/or unencrypted device

[Anonymous No.50405354]

>>50405300
Can't you just buy a burner?

[Anonymous No.50405389]

Slurping at 120 USD levels were delicious.
Can we go back?

[Anonymous No.50405410]

>>50405300
check orangefren.com
You can use samourai wallet whirlpool coinjoin to obfuscate your tainted coins' history, before using orangefren.

[Anonymous No.50405486]

>>50405410
Thank you fren

[Anonymous No.50405903]

>>50401596
>what's the general consensus on spinner cash?

I can't keep track of all these Monero-killers hahaha

[Anonymous No.50405923]

>>50400585
based

[Anonymous No.50405952]

>>50400585
klaus schwab wept

[Anonymous No.50405957]

>>50402519
>I'm a senior in college for CS and basically still know hardly anything
do you mean junior?
>(it turns out getting in a programming community is infinitely more useful for learning how to do shit than relying on classes)
college is a scam

Monero's circular economy needs every skillset possible so no need to become a cryptographer unless you really want to

[Anonymous No.50406043]

hmmmm...

[Anonymous No.50406173]

Has anyone managed to build Monero GUI in OpenBSD here? The documentation for the GUI client seemed to have forgot about any BSD support.

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.50406250]

>>50406173
I managed to get the CLI working on OpenBSD, but not the GUI.

https://github.com/monero-project/monero#on-openbsd

[Anonymous No.50406379]

What is the make it stack? My bags are starting to gain some heft feels good man

[Anonymous No.50406621]

>>50406379
100

[Anonymous No.50406632]

>>50406379
Suicide 18.7
Break It 50
Make It 100

[Anonymous No.50407169]

Why it keeps getting up?
I want my under 100$ monerinos...

[Anonymous No.50407270]

>>50394484
Rail is leading the privacy niche with its robust tech which offers total privacy and onchain anonymity without bridges on ETH, POLYGON and BSC with more blockchain integrations to come. I have had a pleasant experience using this platform.

[Anonymous No.50407628]

[Hodlin Caulfield No.50407683]

>>50401622
swap sites like changenow/fixedfloat
>kycnot.me

[Anonymous No.50407688]

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24dyS6DEZD0
interesting report. FATF coming after privacy coins over the next couple of years via international travel rule enforcement and new regulations
things are finally about to get interesting for monero
if you want in, better load up your bags while it's still easy to do it

[Hodlin Caulfield No.50407705]

>>50405058
probs localmonero but that would be a dick move.
some dark net markets like tor2door have a swap service built in.
>http://dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad.onion/d/Tor2doormarket

[Lawfag of Frankfurt No.50407777]

Monerochads, t. is a law fag in a fag firm.
Last friday, over drinks, we were talking about CBDCs and Anonymity Enhanced Cryptocurrencies being united into FATF-AML framework via a possible Ex post facto lawsets.

There is no precident for it as far as I know.. but what are the various angles that could be used?

Two of my colleagues are compliance cucks and were grinning with the prospect of raking it compliance bucks. Me, being the monerochad that I am, pretended to not know anything about cryptocurrencies let alone monero.

So what are the angles and strategies that can be used to shake the weak hands?

Peace

[Anonymous No.50407841]

>>50407777
were you ever a prosecutor

[Lawfag of Frankfurt No.50407849]

>>50407841
No, I am an intern

[Anonymous No.50407854]

>>50407777
checked
>CBDCs and Anonymity Enhanced Cryptocurrencies being united into FATF-AML framework via a possible Ex post facto lawsets
can you elaborate on this? do you mean governments going after people who used privacy coins before they were regulated? i'm not sure I see the purpose of this or how feasible it would even be

[Anonymous No.50407860]

>>50407849
Okay good, if you were I was going to tell you to eat lots of cadmium.

[Lawfag of Frankfurt No.50407958]

>>50407860
I just finished my Abitur and thought of interning at a lawfirm for lolz..
Please helpout a newfag thansk.

[Anonymous No.50408026]

>>50407958
best bet to shake weak hands is just thoroughly spread any and all news that could suggest anonymity cryptos may soon be legally dubious to own.

[Lawfag of Frankfurt No.50408091]

>>50408026
So you mean an unsubstantiated FUD on all news channels might shake weak hands, correct?
Those who have survived the Plandemic Propaganda (most who are for some reason also XMR holders) might not fall for it!
I for example, will end up making my own parallel economy with monero, blackjack and hookers.
I am talking about FORCING the hands to throw out monero! what are the legal/semi-legal avenues how this could be done?

Also why did you tell me to eat lots of cadmium.. was my question so stupid?

[Anonymous No.50408201]

>>50408091
>Also why did you tell me to eat lots of cadmium.. was my question so stupid?
No, I only wanted you to eat cadmium if you were a criminal prosecutor, which you are not.
I do not like criminal prosecutors.

As far as forcing their hands? Your guess is as good as mine

[Anonymous No.50408226]

does p2pool only know your hashrate in the pplns window?
xmrig is mining and p2pool is connected, but p2pool observer reports 0 hashrate

[Anonymous No.50408344]

We aint going anywhere, pedocoiners. Superior tech always wins in the end.

Keep coping.

[Lawfag of Frankfurt No.50408393]

>>50408344
>pedocoiners
https://youtu.be/7yGGPEJmwHY

[Anonymous No.50408410]

>>50408226
could it be an incorrect config/missing command line options?

[Anonymous No.50408458]

>>50408410
p2pool is just host, wallet, and mini
xmrig is -o and -u
it was working fine last night, so idk what happened

[Anonymous No.50408490]

>>50397375
L1 smart contract privacy protocols are the future of on-chain privacy. Kys

[Anonymous No.50408509]

>>50397913
What to do

[Anonymous No.50408516]

>>50408458
strange, nothing happened to monerod?

>>50408490
>L1 privacy
>smart contracts
>on the same chain
try again.

[Anonymous No.50408531]

>>50408516
monerod was fucked up overnight too, but i've fixed it since

[Anonymous No.50408536]

>>50401342
Have you heard mentions of Railgun?

[Anonymous No.50408916]

>>50406621
>>50406632
Not him, but when should I buy Monero if I just have a small sum? Is it reasonable to wait for the BTC bottom at around 10k?

[Anonymous No.50408950]

>>50408916
I think we're likely to have another leg down, but at the same time no one can really time the bottom. It might be advisable to DCA every week just to be safe.

[Anonymous No.50409011]

>>50406250
Yeah. It seems that the CLI is the only thing that has OpenBSD support. Though even that seems to be failing to build at the moment. Have you tried compiling a recent version of monero-cli in OpenBSD?

[Anonymous No.50409074]

>>50408516
The point of a scalable privacy solution is the ability to natively interact with DeFi dapps. Privacy is not limited to privacy coins and I don't think that is difficult to understand.

[Anonymous No.50409209]

>>50409074
>the point of a scalable privacy solution is to interact with dapps

sounds like a shit privacy solution, the point of all of the ones I use is uhhhhhh.... PRIVACY.

[Anonymous No.50409239]

>>50409011
most recent version I got to compile on openbsd was v17.3.1, BUT I have not tried the newest build yet, will try later today when I have access to that machine again.

[Anonymous No.50409263]

>>50409074
The burden really should be for the defi apps to scale to the privacy solution, not the reverse. Find me a decent privacy defi protocol where addresses are not compromised in smart contracts and have not been hacked/exploited into obscurity.

[Anonymous No.50409286]

>>50409239
Thanks anon. The problem that I was having was some missing symbols with libunbound. The compile stops around 92%.
I saw someone already mentioned the same issue in the issue tracker (https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/8439)) but he was using Ubuntu 20.04 and I can't seem to use the ``depends'' makefile since there doesn't seem to be a valid OpenBSD target for it.

[Anonymous No.50409316]

>>50409286
yes that is also a problem with the version I got to compile and run, lots of missing/extra symbols but you can still mostly tell what is happening. I'll get some screenshots later it actually looks kinda funny

[Anonymous No.50409327]

>>50409263
I think presence of bridge is one of the main reasons why many protocols have been exploited in the past.
>Find me a decent privacy defi protocol where addresses are not compromised in smart contracts
A good example I'm familiar with is Railgun. No bridge, entirely multi-chain. Everything happens on the smart contract with zero custodial risks associated with bridge-enabling protocols. Not mixers where tokens go off the chain which is even way more less secure.

[Anonymous No.50409336]

>>50409209
You're just a close minded retard. That's your problem

[Anonymous No.50409398]

>>50394182
Hey /biz/, explain like I'm dumb. (I am)
>Monero is not traceable for now
>blockchain is publicly available for download
>everyone can download it and have a local list of all transactions ever made, just not traceable
>for now
>some time passes, computers get fast
>fast enough to somehow trace transactions
>you can just take that list of all transactions ever made and try to trace them
>Monero is traceable (in future), and any changes to the coin codebase would only affect traceability of future transactions, made post the code change
Am I wrong somewhere? Isn't it futile to expect privacy forever from a coin that might become not so private after some years?

[Anonymous No.50409434]

>>50409336
eloquently said.

[Anonymous No.50409460]

>>50409398
if the united states government cant crack it with all their power, i'd say it's secure enough
theres a million dollar bounty if you can crack it tho

[Anonymous No.50409507]

>>50409460
Well, but that's the state of Monero tracing for now. I'm asking about the future, what would happen when/if it did become traceable. Suddenly all the privacy would go poof, wouldn't it?

[Anonymous No.50409539]

>>50409507

Post-quantum solutions are already being investigated. For example, zk-STARKs are fully quantum resistant.

In any case, if Monero's tech ever gets cracked it means the cryptography Western civilization itself depends on has been cracked, we'd have bigger problems to worry about.

[Anonymous No.50409640]

>>50409460
> theres a million dollar bounty
Anyone who can crack it will probably spend more than a million doing so, and they’d do it because it would be worth more than that to them. The bounty is meaningless.

[Anonymous No.50409660]

>>50409398
moneros privacy isn't really vulnerable from a cryptographic standpoint as far as I'm aware, especially with one-time use addresses.
statistical attacks with poisoned outputs and network spam over a long period of time (expensive and visible) is the most likely scenario.

[Anonymous No.50409722]

Guy did the rough draft of the Monero-chan ansi piece, though he's still working on the eyes, hair, and will then shade.

[Anonymous No.50409872]

>>50409722
<3

[Anonymous No.50409912]

>>50409539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVm8oZx9WSM&ab_channel=MCFrontalot

[Anonymous No.50410247]

>>50408226
ok it fixed itself after getting a share

[Anonymous No.50410257]

>>50401446
they are all bots, retards without meaningful capital, or paid shills
like this idiot:
>>50408344
>We ain't going anywhere
Yeah, you got that right -- your chain is literally going nowhere LMFAO

[Anonymous No.50410587]

>>50409912
Cryptographic assumptions are scary. No matter how strange it might sound today's Monero transactions will be cracked by skiddies in the future (and Zcash's 1% z-to-z transactions that are not already faulty of RTT as well for your lurking pajeets).
The "good news" is that Monero will upgrade as it did in the past getting more resilient each time, but for the long-term Monero should abandon its blockchain and everything off-the-record at least that way future damage by cracking the algorithms, that uphold many of the modern internet infrastructure, is minimized. But still cryptography is the oldest or worst part of the modern internet infrastructure. There are bigger worries there but at this point it seems a bit like the internet is "too-big-to-upgrade" especially with the current trends.

[Anonymous No.50410797]

>tfw no one is interested in translation services or graphic design (logo) services
I tried Reddit and telegram and even 4channel. Is this proof that these fields are complete shit?

[Anonymous No.50410910]

>>50410797
find somebody on /g/ with an idea and offer your services to him

[Anonymous No.50411043]

Anons, thoughts on Thorchain? Any update on them adding Monero?

[Hodlin Caulfield No.50411086]

>>50411043
waiting on multisig from the next hardfork before any real work can be done.
cakewallet had people audit the bridge code back in january. that was the last update until the hardfork.

[Anonymous No.50411401]

>>50411043
>It's been hacked multiple times and has had several criticals fixed before being hacked, besides my own. While they have plenty of people working on security, they still have a horribly messy codebase and I'd assume security issues.
>They had over 50% of the coin's entire supply go to centralized entities at launch.
>They actively have admin keys which could likely bring down the network in a variety of ways.
>They've sent pending outbound transfers to their own wallet and had a Google Form to request them back, one which asked for your Discord ID. While they said it was optional, they later said they'd reach out as some did not include theirs.
>They've acquired the multisig key for their former network at one point despite not actively needing it, 'just in case'.
>They constantly spread misinformation in their publicity. Just a few days ago, they tweeted it's non-custodial when they very clearly do take custody. They just take custody into a collective of nodes instead of into a single party's wallet. Before a month ago, individual nodes also did perform custody (which I note as this non-custodial claim has been around for ages).

BTW this is from the reputable guy that's making Serai, the new DEX. I'm just the messanger. See the r/Monero Serai announcement for more details.

[Anonymous No.50411828]

>>50410910
>find somebody on /g/ with an idea and offer your services to him
I’ll try that, it’s just that I’m beginning that my services are simply not in demand.

[Anonymous No.50411891]

>>50411828
>I’ll try that
he's messing with you, anon. /g/ is known for talking mad shit about technology while not actually working on their projects and stopping at the logo design phase. 'i will make the logo' is sort of a meme reply (kind of like 'install gentoo') whenever someone comes up with an idea on /g/.

[Anonymous No.50412052]

minexmr at 44.6% of known hashrate again
reee

[Anonymous No.50412181]

>>50412052
Why don´t they just split into 2-3 pools?

[Anonymous No.50412204]

>>50409507
By the time the old XMR transaction chain is cracked, it'd be cheaper (and more profitable) to crack every bank and military encryption in use. Particularly since cracking (by then 15 year old transactions) would still be beyond the point of the knowledge remaining practical.

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.50412371]

>>50412181
This. At this point, with how close they've come on numerous occasions and their lack of response/half-assed mitigations over a prolonged period of time, I think the safest course of action would be to consider minexmr as a bad actor.

Whether they are malicious or simply incompetent, I don't care. The outcome is still centralization and so they must be annihilated.

[Anonymous No.50412732]

>>50407854
i think he means they will be able to do some regulation with existing law

[Hodlin Caulfield No.50412919]

bump
>>50412371
agreed

[Anonymous No.50413101]

>>50411891
>he's messing with you, anon. /g/ is known for talking mad shit about technology while not actually working on their projects and stopping at the logo design phase. 'i will make the logo' is sort of a meme reply (kind of like 'install gentoo') whenever someone comes up with an idea on /g/.
So where the fuck do I go? I do translation and logo work. Surely someone out there needs it and is willing to pay in xmr

[Anonymous No.50413546]

I rediscovered five large I had sitting around in an account I don't use often.
Should I dump it into XMR now or DCA it assuming BTC tumbles again back to pre-pandemic prices?

[Anonymous No.50413864]

>>50409872
He's been really cranking it out, nearly done the piece.

If anyone has other reference images from the Monero-chan image collection, post em and I'll see if he'll do a 2nd commission. Should be an 8:5 ratio and decently cropped, since ANSI is so low resolution.

[Hodlin Caulfield No.50414017]

>>50413864
dope

[Anonymous No.50414234]

>>50408536
not really, what is this?

[Anonymous No.50414266]

when're we getting rich lads?

[Anonymous No.50414319]

>>50414266

[Anonymous No.50414505]

>>50394182
GM sirs plis can anione post the pictur of the Monero citadel.

[Anonymous No.50414716]

>>50414505

[Anonymous No.50414734]

>>50414716
Thank you, sir.
I confess I deceived; I am not actually an Indian man, but a respectable businessman.

[Anonymous No.50414866]

>>50412371
>I think the safest course of action would be to consider minexmr as a bad actor.
stop fudding. they've been around forever and the mining pool centralization problem doesn't really affect monero due to anonymity. If they ever attacked monero the miners would just move to another pool and they would lose all of their profit over night because their trust would be severed. It's simple game theory.

[Anonymous No.50414963]

does lowering or raising the difficulty on xmrig change anything if i'm using p2pool?

[Anonymous No.50415291]

How can you securely store seedphrases without digital means or memorizing? Encode the seed with a length-matched substitution cipher key, write it on paper, and store it in a vault?

[Anonymous No.50415323]

>>50415291
do aes by hand bro

[Anonymous No.50415493]

Syscon is known for quickly negotiating collaboration agreements with significant partners.

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.50415595]

>>50414866
It's not a problem until it's a major problem. Stop preaching complacency.

[Anonymous No.50415952]

handy little fuckin coin I tell you

[Anonymous No.50416191]

test

[Anonymous No.50416207]

>>50416191
test

[Anonymous No.50416229]

>>50416191
>>50416207
icles

[Anonymous No.50416733]

>>50394182
I just like the coin

[Anonymous No.50416931]

>>50415595
I'm not preaching complacency, it is being rational. Considering one of the oldest pools a "bad actor" is spreading fud, simple as.

[Anonymous No.50417003]

>>50416931
why deal with the uncertainty at all when you could just not

[Anonymous No.50417049]

>>50415291

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.50417167]

>>50416931
I can't sleep well at night solely on the trust that Francis at the data center won't decide to be a dickhead or retard. I need to know with certainty that even if he does, he can't do anything severe to the network.

[Anonymous No.50417243]

>>50415291
I chopped up a baking sheet, bought some metal letter punches, and hammered my seed phrase into that. Cheaper than whatever they sell online.

[Anonymous No.50417788]

Where are the official binaries for v18?

No I will not compile it myself

[Anonymous No.50418069]

My first XMR-purchased package arrived today. It was coffee from Gratuitas.

[Anonymous No.50418200]

>>50417788
>No I will not compile it myself
tfw you can't compile monero-cli in OpenBSD

[Anonymous No.50418233]

>>50394182
Where can I buy coke using Monero?

[Anonymous No.50418924]

THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 50) IS OUT NOW!

Grab a coffee or a beer and kick back for a read.

Like, share, subscribe, and spread the word of Monero as it continues to grow and offer unmatched financial privacy.

https://www.themoneromoon.com/

[Anonymous No.50418998]

Lads i have always supported monero here since 2018, in fact i accumulated my first bags when someone here on biz gifted me an xmr and i decided to download the gui to test it.

if someone can help me with 10 usd it would be great

46VrN4FExqeYyrjSNo7uVYgGV5jXQN5uueJCL91pEYroUxTMunCFM7UUtLCwnutosFg6voTEb3M5x6iM1u8r6bVCHb6z4z7

long story short i live in Argentina and had to do some purchases last 3 weeks and then the motherfucking government devalued the peso by 40% so now i need to pay by end of month the fucking card but the usd purchases i did are now worth 40% more in pesos(great fucking great), on top of that the us company i freelancecuck is having liqudiity problems and i am working like a janny for free until they they get paid.

I really don't want to sell my humble monerujo stack i would feel dirty as hell, it's the only coin i held in all dumps due to ideological reasons.

If nobody can help it's fine it's just that if i have to pay at the end of the month i will be forced to sell a part of my stack and i feel dirty even talking about it.

In reality it's very ltitle money i need usd to pay the difference due to the devaluation but i just want to vomit at the tough of selling monerujos for this.

[Anonymous No.50419009]

>>50415291
copy most of the seed and memorize last or first words,

[Anonymous No.50419115]

what's happening, why are we going up?

[Anonymous No.50419151]

>>50418233
nice try, fed, niggers tongue my anus.

[Anonymous No.50419184]

>>50418998
Waiting to buy your stack.

[Anonymous No.50419200]

>>50417049
This is perfect for keeping it in the asshole.

[Anonymous No.50419221]

>>50419184
That's cruel sir, one day your own currency may devaluate by 40% in two days.

[Anonymous No.50419241]

>>50419221
I couldn´t care less. All my money is in XMR and Silver.

[Anonymous No.50419246]

>>50418998
This isn't a poorjeet begging thread, sell your xmr or go fix your government.

[Anonymous No.50419266]

>>50419009
Well done, now all bad actor needs is your seed and try 4 million first 2 word combinations and 4 million last 2 woed combinations.

[Anonymous No.50419277]

>>50419115
Still trying to decouple from BTC

[Anonymous No.50419291]

>>50419241
Yes

[Anonymous No.50419292]

>>50419241
So is mine sirs it's just that i had to use a credit card for some payments and the next two days they devaluated i am going to be assraped when they close the month and i have to pay the card.

[Anonymous No.50419293]

>>50418998
/biz/ is not a begging board

[Anonymous No.50419322]

>>50419293
it's the only time in my 5 years and half here i am beging i don't really need much prob 30 usd but cocksuckers here increased capital controls and the usd price rise 40% in two days.

It's not really lot of money for me but the company i work has liquidity problems now and can't pay me atm so i am kind of fucked this month.

[Anonymous No.50419323]

>>50419293
I got my first five ETH in a giveaway thread on /biz/ back when those weren't cracked down on. I never /madeit/ but I was able to pay for my school with the gains from trading around those ETH and losing my shirt on most of my potential gains, and I had enough left over to get a SS of XMR before I stopped trading entirely.

[Anonymous No.50419330]

>>50419322
>>50419323
Yes. But /biz/ is not a begging board.

[Anonymous No.50419341]

>>50419323
>gets free eth
>loses most of it trying to trade
You're just proving why giving out free money is a bad idea

[Anonymous No.50419343]

>>50419330
speaking of which don't tell me there is actually a begging board?

[Anonymous No.50419385]

>>50419343
there are other chans where begging is allowed

[Anonymous No.50419406]

>>50419323
I got my first xmr in 2018 from one good autist, in reality his investment paid off since i built my own stack after that.

I also got gifted eth many times here for some reason and btc two times.

Usually from generous anons doing giveaways to celebrate their own "making it."

Obviously we are in worse economic conditions now but still this has been a very generous board for me at times i never needed money.

[Anonymous No.50419417]

>>50419341
>Loses most of it trying to trade
No, I made more than what I was given, lost most of the big gains I made beyond that ETH, and spent most of my profits beyond it on school and the rest on XMR. I never went below 5 ETH trading.

[Anonymous No.50419423]

>>50419417
Ah, I misread then

[Anonymous No.50419429]

>>50419385
holy fuck they must be shitholes.

The think i loved about biz ever since i discovered this place in late 2017 is that jannies are pretty tolerant (except late 2019 when the bsv faggots put their own janny in place and the entire board was bsv threads for months).

Outside of that janjans were pretty good here, orderly but not tyrannical it's part of what makes this board great.


BTW anyone here knows how to verify the gui binaries in windows 7?

[Anonymous No.50419461]

>>50419322
go suck a suck or something, you dumbcunt poorfag.

[Anonymous No.50419480]

>>50419429
use GNU/Linux, faggot.

[Anonymous No.50419503]

>>50419423
Yeah at peak of trading I had 5 BTC but I fucked that up majorly. Oh, well. We'll all make it eventually.

[Anonymous No.50419522]

>>50419480
Nigga i am too lazy to reinstall the windows version i have since 2011 and you want me to use linux, i used linux in the past it's a pain in the ass sometimes.

>go suck a suck or something, you dumbcunt poorfag.

How much monerujos for a cock sucking?

[Anonymous No.50419523]

We need a decentralized stablecoin that is is overcollaterized like DAI. Where the collateral vault is transparent but the stablecoin itself is anonymous, private and untracable.

[Anonymous No.50419542]

I want a Private Millitary Company that pays her mercs in XMR/PMs.

[Anonymous No.50419549]

>>50419523
>We need a decentralized stablecoin that is is overcollaterized like DAI

For that to happen you need a deflationary or almost deflationary collateral, meth heads with DAI almost make a disaster last month collateral reached almost 120% down from 175% it was only saved by usd and blackrock.

The absoltue state, thankfuly the merge will increase maker collateral due to eth valuation but still it was an almost total apocalypse event for crypto.

[Anonymous No.50419553]

Reported this begging loser a while ago and jannies STILL haven't enforced the ban.

If you're reading this do the following you absolute retard

>Install a linux distro on your windows 7 (I recommend endeavouros if you have low specs or linux mint if you are addicted to windows)
>Develop a fucking skillset, you have access to a computer and the internet and use that to provide yourself with income

You have all of these resources available to you for free to develop yourself as a person, this is all on you. I taught myself English, Japanese, Programming, Electrical Engineering, 3D rendering, Digital music production and cryptography all for free from home.

It's not our fault that you'd rather spend your free time on masturbation and shitposting, so don't come begging for your personal problems. Personal responsibility bitch, grow up.

[Anonymous No.50419563]

>>50419522
go to >>/lgbt/, grinder or craigslist.

[Anonymous No.50419571]

>>50419549
>by usd and blackrock

by usdc*

[Anonymous No.50419602]

>>50419563
you seem to have experience in this.

[Anonymous No.50419608]

>>50419549
Than make the collateral 250% and provide incentives.
>inb4 Haven Protocol.
It´s an algorithmic `stablecoin´ like fucking TerraLunaUsd.

[Anonymous No.50419621]

>>50419602
t. ex pimp.

[Anonymous No.50419633]

>>50419621
>>50419602
BTW, Hyperinflation is a perfect time to start pimping thots.

[Anonymous No.50419655]

>>50419633
>>50419621
>BTW, Hyperinflation is a perfect time to start pimping thots.

Kek probably right yoou could have lot's of business down here in boludolandia.

>>50419608
it's not about incentives it's about the collateral flash crashing , if you go down 100% collateral you have a cascade effect like luna.

i saw maker live go down from 179% to 119% in just a few hours it was unbelievable, i kept my mouth shut for the sake of crypto as i suspect many did, but i can asure if i have posted it here on biz or other done the same it could have probably depegged in some hours.

it was way lower collateral than in just the previous hours due to the events that happened.

[Anonymous No.50419679]

>>50419655
If the collateral goes down the borrowers get liquidated. The collateral can be other stablecoins.

[Anonymous No.50419706]

>>50419679
>The collateral can be other stablecoins.

No it can't that's the problem, if you do so everyone will be collateralizing witch each other coins and when there is a need to cash out there won't be enough real collateral.

This is why bonds exist, they are the ultimate collateral againt anything but state failure, hence why they buy them even if they give negative returns.

DAI has usdc as collateral but usdc has us treasuries as collateral.

[Anonymous No.50419765]

>>50419706
Than overcollaterize with stablecoins. If you see the collaterall go down, then sell. DAI and MakerDAO did all the research on decentralized overcollaterized stablecoins. All we need is a DAI with the privacy of XMR. I hate using XMR durring bear markets.

[Anonymous No.50419768]

Anyone else having trouble connecting to the cakewallet node?

[Anonymous No.50420020]

>>50394182
Monero is the official pedo coin and has a 51% vulnerability. There are better privacy options available now, just sayin

[Anonymous No.50420086]

>>50420020
>pedo coin
based bought more.

[Anonymous No.50420186]

>>50413101
i wouldn't know but i work at a tech company and there are some dedicated graphics designers here. maybe there are some companies in your area looking for people like that. if you insist on working alone perhaps you could try looking up some offers on freelancer or fiver.

[Anonymous No.50420458]

>>50420020
has a 51% vulnerability.

Every legit PoW coin has a 51% vulnerability.


>There are better privacy options available now, just sayin

Make sure you inform the OPSEC gurus over at the DNM Bible, they seem to be very confused and keep pushing a Monero-only standard.

[Anonymous No.50420535]

>>50420020
>Monero is the official pedo coin
True, because it's the only coin that is private enough to allow illicit trade like that to happen
>has a 51% vulnerability
That's the same as saying "Uses Proof of Work"
>There are better privacy options available now
Straight up false.

[Anonymous No.50420658]

>>50418924
>THE MONERO MOON (ISSUE 50) IS OUT NOW!

[Anonymous No.50420824]

>>50397832
>tel aviv
>israeli

BTFO

[Anonymous No.50421158]

yeah, i am thinking we are back

[Anonymous No.50421173]

>>50421158
Imagine the bribes

[Anonymous No.50421204]

>>50421158
why does it say COVID-19 in the picture

[Anonymous No.50421270]

>>50421173
>Imagine the bribes

Just growing the circular Monero economy.

[Anonymous No.50421354]

>>50420020
>51% vulnerability

Piratechain and soon Z-cash will have a Second Pirate Savings and Trust attack using borrowed coins and a big short position that any exchange can pull off with zero input costs.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=897488.msg10182752#msg10182752

In the age of defi there's many more tools and incentives to pull this off

[Anonymous No.50421425]

>>50421354
GTFO, cunt.

[Anonymous No.50421736]

>>50421354
Why? It's a valid concern for any proof of stake coin.

>>50421354
I phrased this horribly:
>Piratechain (and soon Z-cash) has a Second Pirate Savings and Trust attack vulnerability using borrowed coins and a big short position that any exchange can pull off with zero input costs.

Assuming enough retards trust you with control of their coins, or your dev tax gives you significant portion of the network, you can potentially control and ruin any proof of stake coin's network for essentially free.

[Anonymous No.50421752]

>>50421736
Meant for >>50421425

[Anonymous No.50421792]

>>50421354
>Piratechain
70% premine

>Z-cash
Centralized + Trusted Setup

I didn't read the rest of your post because it's not relevant if the foundations aren't good.

[Anonymous No.50421848]

>>50421736
PoS (peace of shit) kike globohomo premined shitcoins.

[Anonymous No.50421908]

>>50421792
I'm telling you why any proof of stake coin has a much greater risk of being destablized thanks to exchanges and defi. This is the gist of pic related, and it doesn't get talked about enough

[Anonymous No.50421975]

>>50421908
Sorry bro, please don't start your post with shitcoins because I automatically assume you're a shill and not read your post.

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.50422360]

>>50421158
based, so they really did just want him to cut them a check.

[Anonymous No.50422603]

>>50421975
All good bro. I brought it up for those of us that never looked into the security threats in the proof of stake model. At least in proof of work you have to find a shit ton of hash power to attack it regardless of the amount of coins you control

[Anonymous No.50423429]

>>50421908
This is basically what Binance tried to do, but since Monero is PoW all they could do was turn off the withdrawal button to stop a run.

[Anonymous No.50423681]

>>50422603
I am sorry, m8, I thought you were a shill shitting on XMR too.

[Anonymous No.50424002]

I don't understand why some people are still shilling for PoS.

[Anonymous No.50424194]

>>50424002
They're obsessed with making (PoW) crypto "green", despite the fact that it's already far cleaner than our modern global financial system.

[Anonymous No.50424834]

>>50417003
What do you mean? I am constantly advocating long term moving to a p2pool forced option. It's just again the wording from that anon is just fud posting whether he wants to admit it or not.
>>50417167
Then you need to get your head checked. It's not even close to the biggest problem facing Monero.

[Anonymous No.50424934]

>>50424834
I never said it was the "largest" problem, you said that.

However, the largest pool hogging 51% of the network hashrate is definitely ONE OF the largest and most glaring issues facing Monero right now. All other issues related to Monero mean nothing if we cannot even maintain decentralized consensus.

I know you're capable of using that noggin of yours, anon. Try it sometime.

Also
>p2pool forced option
>forced
>option

[Anonymous No.50424992]

>>50424934
>I know you're capable of using that noggin of yours, anon. Try it sometime.
Don't be a snarky faggot.

[Anonymous No.50425016]

>>50424934
I meant "option" as in "alternative".
>definitely ONE OF the largest and most glaring issues facing Monero right now
I would agree that it is a big issue but your overall freaking out about it is, again, retarded. As has been pointed out numerous times, the only overtly negative thing that can happen is the pool will just start printing empty blocks, and this will lead to miners leaving that pool and joining others. Please explain to me why this wouldn't happen retard.

[Anonymous No.50425063]

>>50424992
Every time MineXMR approaches 51% we get these guys crawling out of the woodwork to defend it and I just can't give a shit this time.

[Anonymous No.50425255]

>>50425016
And then until the heat death of the universe there will be a record of the time Monero was ground to a halt by bad actors in its own backyard while the rest of the community let it happen and sat idly by watching "because there's bigger problems to worry about first"

OR it could just not happen in the first place by way of intelligent and actually effective mitigations, which MineXMR doesn't seem at all interested in implementing.

[Anonymous No.50425446]

>>50425016
>>50425255
I personally see zero downside with p2pool being enforced and built into Monero itself. It essentially guarantees that so long as there are miners, there is also decentralization. You get all of the benefits of solo mining without the downside of infrequent payouts.

I kind of understand the point of wanting miners to have the "freedom" to choose their own pool, but at the same time there's basically nothing to be gained by doing so and it only introduces bloat and potential problems within the network as a whole. Making mining as streamlined as possible is one of the most important things we can do, and this would help with that immensely.

[Anonymous No.50425500]

>>50424002
People have been conditioned into the idea of making something from nothing.

[Anonymous No.50425528]

>>50425255
It's not like Bitcoin didn't go through similar growing pains with the ghash mining pool. All we can do is continue promoting p2pool and continue telling new miners to use it.
Claiming that Minexmr is a bad actor is a total overreaction that ignores the history of the pool and the game theory. Effectively the price of Monero needs to go up to bring in my interest in mining. This is what we are waiting for and from that investment from start up miners.
>Idly by
Bs. It's definitely something being actively talked about. But as you have repeatedly ignored, this would not be the end of the world even if it would happen. If anything, in a worst case scenario, it would lead to a price dump and more of a community push towards p2pool. Even though it isn't going to happen, because minexmr would lose all of their respect over night and nobody would ever use them again, hence canceling out future profit.
Plus, minexmr has previously responded by raising their fee. I imagine if we got above 50% again they will again respond by raising their fee again.
>>50425446
Yep it will eventually be hard forked if I had to guess. Right now it is being improved and building up and size, and this is winning the community over for supporting this type of pow system.

[Anonymous No.50425566]

>>50425528
To bring up interest*

[Anonymous No.50425938]

At this point the only thing I would buy is bitcoin and monero. Too bad I'm poor because my boyfriend has the keys to "our" savings. I was paying for the rent and groceries and take aways cause he used his salary to buy crypto "for us". I'd rather not have any money than see his face again but I'm seething about it every once in a while.

[Anonymous No.50425976]

>>50425938
Post tits, filth

[Anonymous No.50425996]

>>50425938
You know the rules. Tits or GTFO.

[Anonymous No.50426001]

>>50425938
>you pay the bills while I sock away all my money into savings that I solely control

Genius, really.

[Anonymous No.50426010]

>>50425938
>pls b n London

[Anonymous No.50426021]

>>50425976
kek, you beat me to it.

[Anonymous No.50426552]

>>50425938
Okay but smartphones were a mistake. Women and minorities would've never found the internet without smartphones. The internet used to be such much better in general without you people.

[Anonymous No.50426990]

>>50426552
how do you know it's not a gay dude?

[Anonymous No.50427169]

>>50426990
Normal people don't care about appeasing sodomites.

[Anonymous No.50427207]

>>50425938
As a man, he's doing the right thing by taking care for both of you. He has the responsibility and authority.
If he were to "make it", you wouldn't say such things. So stfu, keep his belly full and balls empty.

[Anonymous No.50427441]

go back down, I want to place a big order.

[Anonymous No.50428057]

>>50427441
You have to buy first.

[Anonymous No.50428455]

>>50428057
I will bite the bullet.

For you guys.

[Anonymous No.50428745]

>>50428455
I sold some a bit ago to make it moon, so thank you for doing your part.

[Anonymous No.50429340]

>>50420186
>i wouldn't know but i work at a tech company and there are some dedicated graphics designers here. maybe there are some companies in your area looking for people like that. if you insist on working alone perhaps you could try looking up some offers on freelancer or fiver.
I’ve already tried freelancing sites

[Anonymous No.50429645]

>>50428455
>he placed a big buy order
>the price dumped

holy shit bros... he did it for us

[Anonymous No.50429983]

>>50429645
>>50428455
Thank you anon, I kneel.

[Anonymous No.50430039]

>>50429645
Price?

[Anonymous No.50430308]

>>50419277
Returns on XMR have been outpacing BTC fairly reliably over the last half year.

[Anonymous No.50430374]

>>50430308
Yeah but when I think of a decoupling proper I'm imagining XMR not necessarily hitting ATH but reliably moving without any apparent correlation to BTC's price. XMR dipped with BTC, albeit not as badly as last time. If BTC tumbles to 8k and XMR is still 140, then we've left BTC's orbit.

[Anonymous No.50430529]

>>50430374
Yeah, the correlation in monthly returns is slowly going down too.

[Anonymous No.50430932]

>>50430308
>>50430529
Where did you get these graphs?

[Anonymous No.50431206]

>>50430932
Made them in R just now.

[Anonymous No.50431322]

>>50431206
Gives me an idea actually, adding in various price/metric screens for the Monero BBS, since the platform is very mod friendly.

[Anonymous No.50431563]

>>50431322
They look great. I agree that this information shouldn't be only on 4chan.
John will probably use them in the next moon edition lol.

[Anonymous No.50431606]

>>50431563
Well, if he wants any particular statistics/graphing done, he can email me at [e-mail]

[Anonymous No.50431823]

>>50431606
Based, I hope he contacts you.

[Anonymous No.50432144]

Buy Zcash if you actually want to make it, ZKP is the future, don't bet on the wrong horse.

Join us!!!

[Anonymous No.50432160]

XMR is almost as cringe as this general.

[Anonymous No.50432190]

>>50432160

Yep, these fools think they actually stand a chance against superior next-gen tech.

[Anonymous No.50432290]

>>50432144

Monero already uses ZKP, fuckhead, and will be expanding their use when ring signatures are ditched.

Meanwhile, your collaborationist compliance coin can't even get the time of day on the darknet. Keep dreaming.

[Anonymous No.50432329]

>>50432160
>XMR is almost as cringe as this general.

Salty as ever.

[Anonymous No.50432363]

>>50432190
>superior next-gen tech.

That still comes with disclaimers warning about the risks involved with using it lolololol

[Anonymous No.50432422]

>>50432290
>>50432329
>>50432363
Stop giving (((them))) (You)´s.

[Anonymous No.50432496]

>>50432290
>Monero already uses ZKP, fuckhead, and will be expanding their use when ring signatures are ditched.

Monero's ZKP tech is old and irrelevant, SNARKs are the future. And ring signatures are NEVER getting ditched, they're too entrenched at this point. So enjoy the slow slide into obscurity.

>Meanwhile, your collaborationist compliance coin can't even get the time of day on the darknet.

Mark my words, Zcash will be dominating the darknet within just a couple of years. Screencap this

[Anonymous No.50432531]

>>50394317
>Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K
can we get this updated to reflect current reality otherwise someone DEBOONKS this right away and the rest of the content, while the sentiment is true, feels like FUD

[Anonymous No.50432562]

>>50400107
holy shit is that Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadome?

[Anonymous No.50432572]

>>50432363

Risk is worth it, better than relying on shitty ring signatures

[Anonymous No.50432581]

>>50432190
>>50432160
>pic rel, it's you guys looking at XMRUSD/ZECUSD

[Anonymous No.50432599]

>>50402798
>you will never make a profit no matter what.
XMR mining is less about making profit and more about denying coins to THEM

[Anonymous No.50432652]

>>50432422

Ignoring us won't change the fact that your obsolete pedocoin is doomed.

Just seethe.

[Anonymous No.50432705]

>>50432422
>Stop giving (((them))) (You)´s.

I agree but its important to debunk their horseshit claims lest they start gaining traction.

[Anonymous No.50432706]

>>50432572

The tranny shit is played out, faggot, get new material.

[Anonymous No.50432761]

>>50432705

Debunk what, that Zcash is clearly the superior product? My sides, there's a reason why Vitalik ignores XMR while gushing about Zcash.

[Anonymous No.50432787]

>>50432761

lol as if what Vitalik thinks is supremely relevant lmao

[Anonymous No.50432837]

>>50432787

Look at ETH's market cap then look at XMR's. Speaks for itself.

[Anonymous No.50432872]

>>50432761
>One coin beholden to the government (ZCash)
>One coin beholden to its whales (ETH)
Okay, what's that have to do with a coin beholden to freedom, though?

[Anonymous No.50432947]

>>50432872

Zcash isn't beholden to government, it voluntarily complies with regulations to ease adoption and better integrate into the financial sector.

Meanwhile, Monero is getting delisted left and right, its over.

[Anonymous No.50432985]

Friendly reminder that Zcash™ is so toxic and untrustworthy that criminals conspicuously avoid touching it.

[Anonymous No.50433009]

>>50432947
>Meanwhile, Monero is getting delisted left and right, its over.

Gee, it really makes you think....

[Anonymous No.50433029]

>>50432947
>Meanwhile, Monero is getting delisted left and right, its over.
Where?

[Anonymous No.50433035]

>all we have to do is suck a few dicks and we'll be at the top of the world

[Anonymous No.50433058]

>>50432705
none of their shit will ever gain any traction. no neet to deboooonk anything. you are just feeding the troll. are you a fucking newfag? look at the fucking ID. it´s a guy samefaging. b8 of lowest quality.

[Anonymous No.50433064]

>>50432985

lol thats insanely bullish, institutions wont ever buy a clearcut crimecoin, you absolute nimrod

[Anonymous No.50433146]

>>50433058

Sneed.

[Anonymous No.50433168]

>>50432787
>>50432872
>>50432985
>>50433009
>>50433029
fucking hell.....

[Anonymous No.50433199]

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[Anonymous No.50433270]

>>50433064
>institutions won't ever buy a clearcut crimecoin
lmao take a closer look, even banks are adding Monero to their portfolio. Source:
https://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/goldman-lampe-private-bank-add-to-their-portfolio-of-monero
Congratulations, you played yourself. Again.

[Anonymous No.50434212]

>>50433146
That feeling when your ironic ztrash OC gets reposted by someone who is pro-ztrash and doesn't even understand the irony. This has to be someone fudding their own XMR bags for a discount. Based poster.

[Anonymous No.50434955]

>>50400585
same, feels good.

[Anonymous No.50435135]

>>50432599
I know, that's why i mine P2Pool Mini, despite losing cents every day.

[Anonymous No.50436327]

>>50429340
I can confirm freelance sites are absolute dogshit wastes of time. To successfully freelance you have to find a way to build a reputation and have people who need the work done know who you are and be impressed by your work, or if it's not impressive then people who desperately need it done and have no reliable alternatives. They should have a way to find you, learn you can give what they need.

This is difficult and hard to reproduce, you won't find good specific advice anywhere you just have to figure it out yourself. Good luck.