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I'm setting up a small business that grows GMO [genetically modified] mealworms and then grinds them up into flour to be used as a healthy protein additive to foods to lower costs for consumers. Why are people so averse to the idea of eating mealworms if they''ve been processed?
I seriously want to know what the problem is with people who rage at this, I just don't see an issue.
>>50370877tick tock kike
>>50370877>I'm setting up a small business that grows GMO [genetically modified] mealwormsSo you're a literal shill.
>>50370884Yeah nice try Klaus
>>50370877make burgers made of worms and you are finein fact will make it easily in the jewnited states
>>50370889I'm not jewish you retarded nigger
>>50370897i'm not shilling my company because it doesn't even fully exist yet but i'm "shilling" the idea of eating bugs, if you want to put it like that; i guess
>>50370906seriously wtf is your problem with it? do you even have a single problem you can articulate?
>>50370971I don't think even the woketards pushing this will eat the bugs.
>>50370940that's not the idea, the plan is to add mealworm powder to foods you already eat as filler (generally you can get up to 40-50% of the food being mealworm before you begin to notice a minor taste difference)
>>50371008You realize that we use bugs in a lot of foods already, right? like with Mcdonald's McSundae's, the food colouring is made from bugs
>>50370877The truth is, everybody has been eating the bugs for decades. There is a reason why law dictates the max amount of insect our food can contain.Also, a red pill: insects are healthier than veggies and mammal meat: no pesticides, no antibiotics and no oestrogenshttps://edition.cnn.com/2019/10/04/health/insect-rodent-filth-in-food-wellness/index.html
>>50371060>insects are healthier than veggies and mammal meat: no pesticides, no antibiotics and no oestrogensliterally yes, there's a reason bodybuilders have been chowing down on bugs since the 80s
Imagine putting an entire whole cow into a blender and then saying "eat this or you're a bigot"yeah this is why I'm not eating the bugs
>>50371082Wtf? what are you talking about?
>>50371107the bugs
>>50371136Why won't you eat them? give a specific reason
>>50371060>Also, a red pill: insects are healthier than veggies and mammal meat: no pesticides, no antibiotics and no oestrogens
>>50371049>the food colouring is made from bugscope faggot.
>>50371162He's not wrong...
>>50371171how is that a cope? it is made from bugs
>>50371154See >>50371082Unless you're paying someone to seperate the "meat" from the weird organs and literall shit that's inside them, I'm not that into it. At this point it would be more cost effective to get people to eat current livestock's offal, and until you get that adopted there's no way people will eat ze bugs.
>>50371162Nice argument, faggot. Post hand, I want to laugh at you
>>50371231>Nice argument, faggot. Post hand, I want to laugh at you
>>50371049Mediterranean here, I don't touch your degenerate american shit you call ''food''. Go die in a ditch, subhuman filth.
It’s about symbolism. Eating insect is seen as gross since childhood in most western world (imagine yourself eating ants at 7)Some cultures do it, just like some cultures have different values. If you want to change it in the wealth, you have to start with the youth : make it cool to eat bugs. Maybe don’t call it bugs ?Something like «Ethical Animal Protein»?My problem with eating bugs is that I feel it will be the food of common people while the rich will keep on eating «real meat». I feel lower than them and don’t like it. It would feel better if I saw celebrities eating the same meal as me.
>>50371228the food is pastuerized anyways so it doesn't matter and they're not fed for so an so many hours before they get ground up
>>50371248Oh hi, healthy boy, I saved u time
>>50371261Where is this animosity coming from? i'm intrigued why you think i'm some evil supervillain
>>50371004>seriously wtf is your problem with it?I don't want to eat bugs. I don't see why this is so hard for you to understand. The only people you'll get to buy your product are wimpy liberals who feel intimidated by non-existent social pressure to do whatever the elites tell them to do to save the planet or whatever.
>>50370877We are too high for that. I'm not gonna sink to eating bugs. Fuck off.
Have no qualm with people eating bugs. I prefer meat and will continue to do so, even if I have to deploy more capital.There is something in me that revolts at any socialist utopian idea, it always ends in mass starvation and death camps, even when the idea being pushed is to improve the food supply.
>>50371268I can assure you that if current trends continue by 2050 celebrities will almost only be eating similar meals to you in a wider sense, ie. you'll be eating a burger with 55% mealworms while they'll be eating one with 35% mealworms
>>50371273jesus that hand is so fucking fat
>>50371284why don't you want to eat them though? saying you don't want to eat them because you don't want to eat them is just circular reasoning and doesn't help either of us here
>>50371294why do you think eating bugs is sinking though?? what is so wrong with eating bugs if they're correctly processed etc.??
>>50371297this is a far more reasonable opinion until >There is something in me that revolts at any socialist utopian ideai'm not a utopian or a socialist, i'm literally making a business to make money
>>50371261Do you eat shellfish?|Yes|Do you devein them?|No|You ate prawn shit
>>50371319As a conscious being, I'm capable of circular reasoning, unlike a lowly computer. As such, my reason for not wanting to eat them is that I don't want to. Understand?
>>50371391>as a consious being i'm capable of being retarded unlike computers>therefore you should accept i'm retardedi just think you're retarded
>>50371343Im not opposed to your business idea, I think its great and if you can get the branding right you'll do splendid. I may even invest with you!Bugs are cheap, and tards are happy to pay high prices for conspicuous virtue, intangible as it may be.What I, and probably most here have a problem with is central planning decisionmaking pushing bugs on people through soft measures( brainwashing) and market measures( Netherlands' conscious decision to tax meat to hell and expropriate farms)
>>50371319>um sorry sweetie but you can't just have preferences! that's illogical and debunked by snopes!and you still don't understand why people want to hang you up and gut you
>>50371408You sir, have lost a customer.
>>50370949even if it were true, you're spiritually jewish anywayyou're probably an anglo too which is an even more wicked creature than the jew
>>50371270Yeah the same arguments apply to offal, people would only eat bugs out of necessity, and there's a few more stages that haven't been exhausted before that.
>>50371440it's not even about high prices, it's that the profit margins are insane coupled with the fact that i [and others] can undercut people selling real bee, chicken etc.why would a business owner take a 13% profit margin when he can take a 35% instead? i understand objections to state interventions etc. but i have no control over any of that stuff so i dont feel responsible
>>50370877the>you will eat ze bugmeans that, you will be FORCED to eat ze bug, as in, you won't be able to afford anything else and won't have a choiceI'm fine with eating ze bug, as long as it's due to my choice
>>50371450you can have preferences but those preferences have reasons behind them you're a wild animal who only does things out of base instinct
>>50371455eat my ass
>>50371457i am anglo but idk how that makes me jewish
>>50371512offal still requires cows, pigs etc. to be raised which costs too much to be sustainable so why not, instead of a 100% beef burger have a 45% mealworm, 15% plant protein and 40% beef burger instead?
>>50371538it will be your choice however land is becoming more scarce and meat is becoming more and more unsustainable for a global population as large as ours so while it'll be a choice it'll be a choice in the sense that you choose not to eat Wagu A5 prime cuts every day instead of poorer quality meat
>26 posts by this id shilling eating ze bugskys
>>50371273american moment
>>50371683give a reason you dont want to eat them
>27 pbid >Trolling outside /b/
>>50370884Look i See your point and you are right.But the meme is about not Having the choice anymore:you "will" eat the bugz not you can eat the Bugs. I playing Bugs will be only thing to eat in the future. So Yeah i will eat the bugz, but ill also eat a fat steak
>>50371732not trolling but ok
>>50371748based and nuancepilled
>>50371391based
>>50371576First Bugs then ass what comes next
>>50371623If it's cost/sustainability then plants always come out on top. No one is going to choose to dilute their beef burger with insects if they could have one 100% beef burger once a week and plant based the rest of the time, for the same reason people don't dilute their cola with apple juice.
>>50371805Bugs need way less space, water and resources than plants. Vegtarians are killing the planet.
>>50371805Plants are great but it's hard to make them taste like meat and have that kind of feel so you gotta add some mealworm to it in order to bump up the protein, calorie etc. stats and also provide a satisfying mouthfeel
>>50371883especially onions beans, onions beans are enviromentally unfriendly as fuck
bugs are for gooks, the white man should only eat beef and fresh produce
>>50370877Why the fuck would I eat bugs you freak? Just feed them to the cows and pigs and I will continue to eat proper meat and foodstuff.
>>50371964>>50371974see >>50371883You have to eat the bugs so that the planet can survive.
>>50371964>The ignorance is stunningPlease include pork and chicken
>>50371883Space, yes, but plants literally make the resources that the bugs need to grow in the first place. >>50371906They are getting pretty close already, there was even a plant based burger that bled convincingly.
>>50371974the amount of bugs needed for just one cow would just make it not solve any issue at all also the problem of the cows and their pollution, land use etc. won't be solved eitherthink about it like this, either you eat like a vegan 5 days a week so you can afford some slices of prime real meat on the weekend or you eat meat but with 60% mealworm and plants added in, i'd personally prefer the latter
>>50372038i'm personally placing my money on mealworms rather than grown meat or plant based meat
>>50372038>Space, yes, but plants literally make the resources that the bugs need to grow in the first place.Valid argument. However - if you feed the bugs with deceased people you can grow them without plants.
>>50372074I sometimes haves grown meat when I wake up in the morning
>>50371539so you think you have an equivalent product to beef and chicken and you think you can charge an equivalent amount of dollars for mealworms?You're too fucking retarded. Please kill yourself larping shill.
>>50372077Why not skip the middle man and just make people eat the dead?
>>50372077i'd see no issue with this if you grind up and pasterurize the bodies beforehand to kill any bacteria/viruses
>>50372105no what i'm saying is you can stretch beef, pork etc. with mealworms to increase profits massively
>>50372114That is unironically the next step.
>>50372019>>50372064Or I can ignore your insane bullshit and tell you to fuck off, I am not eating the bugs. Luckily there are some sane people left in the food industry and are making lab-grown meat, I would would eat that before I touch your freak food.
>>50372156>I am not eating the bugs.Well, as long as you can afford it - that would be a valid option.
>>50372156You have to eat ze bugs. We all eat ze bugs.
>>50370877because I'm a low IQ rightist sheep that fell for russian dezinformatsiya
It is only a question of price.Meat will be too expensive soon.
>>50372156you'd eat lab grown meat? usually your crowd is anti gmo and so on, curious
>>50372198well it depends, if you make a burger 50% mealworms, 10% plant product and 40% beef suddenly you can make a lot of burgers very cheaply while maintaining the same taste
>>50372235>People eat shit all day and dont revolt.Correct.
>>50372077>>50372173If only you all had seen the truth of the alien invasion. The truth of the insects. Then you would understand everything. You would understand the elites unity in these strange things.
>>50372271I have seen it. The logic is flawless.
INSECTUS CONSUMUS
>>50372148That shit in the pic is awesome desu,less occupied land, closer to nature. Like you become one with the tree and whenever your kids look at the tree they think of you.
>>50372313based leo of biz ref
>>50372328what I did not write desu it was "Tbh" wtf is wrong
>>50372262why would you revolt against eating a nutritious food source?
>>50370877Bugs are gross but they taste alright. Tried silkmoth pupa before.
>>50372396The only thing holding it back right now is boomer indoctrination, religious beliefs and so on.Millenials and Zoomers are way better indoctrinated and easier to manage. As boomers die off the "moral" hazards will go away. Plan is going along fine as long as people still believe the screens on their smartphones.
>>50372408based, would you mind if someone gave you a beef burger that was 40% mealworms?
>>50372456that doesnt explain why there'd be a revolt in the first place, though?
>>50372496I told you you are correct. There will be no revolt as long their stomachs are filled whith whatever shit you provide them as long as its "tasty".
>>50370884If they're processed and it's a choice, then maybe I might consider the cheaper "processed mealworm powder" alternative... However, since (((they))) DEMAND that I MUST eat the bugs, I will burn every Jew in existence before I eat them.
>>50372521well yea, if someone gave me a burger that was made with cow shit and they processed the absolute fuck out of it until it had the same nutritional content, tasted and felt exactly the same as beef i'd eat it since at that point there'd be no good reason not to
>>50372528this is what i said to someone else earlier, i think it applies here as well>"it will be your choice however land is becoming more scarce and meat is becoming more and more unsustainable for a global population as large as ours so while it'll be a choice it'll be a choice in the sense that you choose not to eat Wagu A5 prime cuts every day instead of poorer quality meat"
>>50372572Know your cutomer base. As long as there is cheap meat on the market - bugs are hard to sell. However with meat and plant prices rising it WILL be profitable. And you WILL be very happy. Marketing and psyop plans are on full rotation now. Climate Change narrative will do its part. You cannot loose with this.
>>50371171But it is. Carmine is exactly that. Processed food is literally cancer anyway, stay away from that shit as much as possible. If you can afford raw food and cook yourself, do it.
>>50372710there's going to be cheap meat on the market because that meat has been stretched with plant protein and mealworms
>>50372775>meatYeah, whatever you call it buddy :)
>>50372782kek
>>50372479As long as it is safe to consume. And it should be cheaper than beef and pork.
Whats the real problem of eating bugs? Arent tbey more nutritious? Why the rage against it?
>>50372829it's moreso about keeping the price down in the long term, while it'll be slightly cheaper when they roll out the price of beef will skyrocket so that a 100% beef burger will be like 20-30 dollars while a 40% mealworm, 20% plant product and 40% meat burger will be about the same price as a 100% meat burger today which, in comparison to a 20-30 dollar burger, is pretty good
>>50372881there isn't one, people just like to rage about it because they feel they're in some way striking against a percieved elite
>>50372591I'm only afraid of the possible scenario of banning eating meat or raising cattle for meat, the slippy slope thing. I want to buy and consume whatever the fuck I like, as long as its not cannibalism
>>50372931it wont be banned, just put outside your price range due to population growth
>>50371551>you're a wild animal who only does things out of base instinctWe have instincts for a reason.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9wFgYshKx8
>>50370877Why not eat the lead?
>>50371457>spiritually jewishBased.
No problem trying out bugs. I had a few crickets in asia which taste kinda good.Wouldn’t replace my diet with it though
>>50370877Because I’ll fucking kill you, pussy ass nigger.
>>50373069Who will produce your food then?
>>50371457>spiritually jewish>anglo too which is an even more wicked creature than the jewgah damn that's based.
>>50370877Myself and many others don't care. If it were cheaper than meat, I'd eat it instead sometimes. Mealworms taste shitty though, lowest tier insect. Chapulines and crrickets are better.
>>50373123Anyone except you.
>>50373069lead isnt healthy you nigger>>50373101i don't expect you to replace your diet with them, just to merely supplement the things you already eat with them>>50373103you won't do shit, pussy
>>50373151>you won't do shit, pussyPost addy, you won’t though cuz you’re a little bitch.
>>50373132mealworms can be made devoid of any taste which makes it easier to add them into things like burgers for example without harming the taste or texture of the meat, i'm very glad to see you're open minded though
Is frying the only way to make them even remotely palatable?
>>50373148My consultants assured me i have a food monopoly.
>>50373151Lead is very healthy, it's part of a well balanced diet for every functional democracy
>>50370877I dont think people have a problem with eating ze bugs in itself my problem is more of being forced to eat them, either by artificially making meat more expansive or by government funded shilling of bugs. In my culture its really normal to eat cartepilars as a delicacy
>>50373188I think they'll find that I am the one with the food monopoly. (I will steal your identity after I steal the breath from your lungs)
>>50373216Well played sir. However you'll find my security consultants wouldn't want to comply with your offer.
>>50373165Right now i'm in new york for some business shit so here's the address of the hotel i'm in right now, at the front desk ask the black guy for "Wesley"50 Central Park S, New York, NY 10019
>>50373170>mealworms can be made devoid of any taste which makes it easier to add them into things like burgers for example without harming the taste or texture of the meatThey taste like low dirty peanuts. Also ants are sour and refreshing, wasps are actually tangy and lemony.
>>50373240Cool, see you in 4 hours.
>>50373175frying? we grind them up and turn them into powder so it can be used as filler for products, mealworms don't really have any taste to them other than the fact they kind of taste like corn but thats about it
>>50373238Then they can eat their own lead, because they won't be eating my bugs
>>50373198>artificially making meat more expensivethe thing that's doing that is population growth, there's simply going to be too many people on the planet for them all to consistently eat meat in an enviromentally sustainable way
>>50373253sure you will, if you actually show up i'll buy you a can of coke
Bugs aren’t kosher goyim
>>50373244they taste more like corn to me desu
>>50373322Maybe yours were fed differently and purged properly then.
>>50371319This is some tranny logic>I don't want to be fucked in the ass by a dude on HRT>-Okay but WHY don't you want to be fucked in the ass by a dude on HRT
>>50370877honestly bugs seems less gross than meat when processed
>>50370877https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_8LTUmHWP0 required watching for all /biz/tards
>>50373308These guys look pretty old to me. See >>50372456
>>50373353bugs also seems less gross than you when processed
>>50373281>t. Goyim that lives in a packed city and thinks everywhere else in the world is like that Travel more youll see that the world id empty af could easely handle 10 billion more people before it gets trully packed
>>50373332probably
>>50373368youre like a sissy girl being "ew bugs"
>>50370877I'm ready to eat the bugs and live in a pod. I just want to be happy. I surrender.
>>50373446youre like a filthy Jew being "eat bugs"
>>50373456Being happy is an order, not a gift desu.
>>50373476Ah shyte...
>>50370877it looks gross but most importantly it's because it's being promoted as a forced substitute to traditional western forms of animal protein...all the while those who promote eating insects will continue to eat traditional western animal protein.it's unfortunate you're in this business and aren't aware of this already.
>>50371060>no pesticides or antibioticsuntil they become a farmed product...or they'll just add something else to increase production and we'll find out it shrunk our balls in 20 years.
>>50371408>i just think you're retardedand i think bugs are retarded. i hope your business fails you fucking kike
>>50370877Can this be turned into a trolley problem?is it more ethical to kill one cow, more similar to a human and has a more fulfilling experience or one million mindless crickets?
>>50373464i understand your life view is mostly comprised of brain rotted /pol/ threads fearmongering the WEF agenda, but protein is protein and you're still being a little bitch about a simple food source that makes sense.
>>50373336>... Because I find it disgusting. Inability to reason and self insoect is not cool
>>50372882>it's to fight inflation i swear!>those cost savings will be passed onto the consumer and not just put traditional independent individuals out of business for more soulless high tech jobsmore kike logic.
>>50373033>nigger population growth in africa and poos in india will price me out of meat locally made and processedyour leap of logic is astounding
>>50373601>protein is protein>you're not allowed to have preferences if there's a logical alternative that benefits all!this is your brain on malthusianism
>>50373601It's not the food that concerns me, it's the simple protein source that is trying to shill it.
>>50373487>muh tradition
>>50373695>muh strawman
>>50373598a million insects because they lack a mind
>>50373618>those cost savings will be passed onto the consumer literally yes, when shit is cheaper than my competitors i make money
>>50371049>>50371261Mediterranean food is master race, most other stuff is just trash
>>50373637>nigger population growth in africa and poos in india will price me out of meat locally made and processedyes, when people are willing to pay more for food overseas then it gets shipped over to them, ie. irish potato famine
>>50373708so that's the point. it doesn't fight inflation if you keep the whole spread. you fucked your own reason.>>50373708can't wait for research to kike your business when they find out it's not BLACK womyn profiting from the new venture. i bet mealworms and crickets will have a soul in 50 years.
Because the people who promote it don't care about my wellbeing.
>muh eating bugs is bad
>>50370877Bugs, as a replacement for meat, is a solution to a symptom of the problems caused by the people who are now graciously offering to sell us bugs as a cheaper alternative to the thing they made expensive.A cheaper, healthier, meat industry is possible, but overregulation and general government fuckery have made it too expensive to have any sort of high quality, efficient livestock industry in the country that isn't strictly owned by one of the four meat megacorps.... and now that same system, which strangles the meat industry is conveniently allowing in the largest bug-meat production plants we've ever had and letting them to be built in record time.Greed and corruption and a reckless disregard for human decency do not stop happening just because something contains more nutrients.
>>50373751>willingeconomics dictates people must be willing AND able to pay more. retard. enjoy your business failure.
>>50373783>a cheaper healtheir meat industry is possiblehow? literally how? the amount of land required for cattle grazing is already reaching a breaking point and your solution is to add more cattle?
>>50373819>what is innovation?>breaking pointis it?
>>50373819Less cows more chicken
>>50373787>thinks literally everyone in india and africa is pooryou're fucking retarded, there's a growing middle class of hundreds of millions of africans and asians with even more wasteful appetites for consooming and that includes meat
>>50373819Only if you intend for meat to be shipped all over the world and feed the entire planet. Also, you drastically underestimate how much farmable, graze-able land exists on this planet, let alone in North America.
>>50373843so you have no policy proposals, no plans, no data or facts but just greentexts and generic platitudes like "we need more innovation" without specifying how to get more innovation, innovation in regards to what and so on? absolute niggerbrained retard cattle
>>50370877where's your business? address and address of al your farms, please.
>>50370877There is no reason to eat bug because other foods are still widely avaible. This come from someone who eat grasshopper and sago worm for fun.
>>50373867meat *is* shipped around the world and super easily too since any african with internet can just order next day delivery of some groceries and pay using creditthe amount of farmable land in north america is vast however we're literally using almost all of it to grow things to feed cattle or to raise the cattle themselves hence why land prices are skyrocketing and why bill gates is buying up land
>>50373873>SOURCE???Back to plebbit with you. Just remember that they'll ban you for saying nigger, you nigger.
>>50373896we're not fully ready yet but once we actually complete everything then i'll let you know : )
>>50373925wanting specifcs is reddit tier? you're the most braindead gorilla monkey i've ever seen
>>50373910those foods aren't going to be widely available for long and we're already seeing them become more scarce, remember the food shortages when biden took office? that's going to get worse unless we do something hence why we need to use mealworms to stretch the meat supply
I'll eat premium insects like bees and butterflies but I'm not eating your poorfag mealworm shite
>>50373873>current industries cant improve>eat my bugs or show proofs. reeeee!your arguments are weak. the sky is blue. or is it not until i show you mountains of data?>>50373854and they will produce meat in their markets where they traditionally have not.
Land is not becoming more scarce.Meat is not becoming more unsustainable.Countries that already could not feed themselves are being used to create changes in countries that can.Is Eid sustainable?
>85 posts by this idabsolute schizo tier bullshit
>>50370877I fucking love processed food!!!
>>50374003What's stopping me from eating offal, mushrooms, or random edible plants? Even if what you said is right, it wont happen anytime soon. No one can stop me from going outside and find my own food in the wild, if someone need a grocery stores to survive then they fail as human being.
>>50371268>>50371300Fuck the corporate goodie good talk. You should embrace the irony like Onions did it. Just call your brand Ze Bugs and make it a fun thing, maybe a bit disreputable. 'I caught him eating Ze Bugs.' That shit works great on tiktok.
I have absolutely no problem with you making a fortune selling bug powder to the peons who will consume it but (great business idea, I'll look into it myself) I personally, as a patrician and man of higher caste, will continue eating grass fed red meat.
>>50374221>bugmeat can't improve>eat my cow or show proofs. reeee!your arguments are weak. bugs are good eatin'. or is it not until i show you mountains of data?
>>50371356>he doesn't devein
>>50373854To add further. Why not just sell the bugs to the african and asian middle class? i suspect it would have better market penetration - cheaper and culturally more accepted. this way, we don't "reach the breaking point".but you won't because you're a fucking kike who wants to A. destroy western civilization and its tradition. B. maximize profits (no problem here, just admit it - you're on biz. or C. both.
>>50374348you can eat whatever you want. my contention is a concerted effort to make other forms of meat unaffordable while still being consumed by the very people making it unaffordable.
>>50374295offal comes from the animals which are unsustainable 'cos of land usage etc. so the same problems, mushrooms are require too many specific conditions in order to be cheap enough to mass produce and too many people are allergic to them and random edible plants are just that, random so if you want to go out there eating every bright coloured plant go do it and tell me how you feel and while it may be sustainable for you, presuming you live in the countryside, it's not sustainable for billions of people to rush into forests and picking them bare
>>50373637Chinese have been buying up meat producers in the USA for years, and most of it will be sent over there
>>50373281Population growth is an overextended narrative. World population will in fact grow till 2050 to sth like 10B and then start declining over the second part of the century. Though the narrative will still be useful to your business. Still think the right thing to do is making it fun and weird instead of that be a good citizen branding or just leveraging up and going for wholesale.
>>50374426that's a fair point but alot of it had to do with their own local production of pork being decimated by swine flu.
>>50374327*like Onions did
>>50374411Instead of thinking about how to make your product more marketable and acceptable. Here you are, making retarded assumption about the world ending unless human eat bugs.Whatever dude, good luck.
>>50373873here's a policy narrative using WEF info. eat less beef and more chicken and pork and the arguments for bugs collapses.the comparisons are always beef to bugs but never beef to a less environmentally intense animal.
>>50370949Maybe not, but you serve them, whether you understand it or not.
>>50374374>To add further. Why not just sell the bugs to the african and asian middle class?because they want actual meat and unlike some westerner working a 9-5 job at amazon plus overtime that uses food banks they can actually pay a high premium for it so the meat producers are just going to send it to them instead>i suspect it would have better market penetration - cheaper and culturally more accepted.they don't want it, they want real meat and lots of it since they now have all this newfound wealth>this way, we don't "reach the breaking point".now we'd still reach the breaing point if meat production keeps going up and current trends continue unabated, regardless of who is eating the meat it's the unsustainaility of it's production that is the problembut you won't because you're a fucking kikeno this is just basic market economics, even meat manufacturers are dumping their funds into other food industries because they can see the numbers and thus the writing on the wall, blaming the numbers on jews doesn't change the numbers themselves>A. destroy western civilization and its tradition.why would i want to destroy the place where i live?>B. maximize profits (no problem here, just admit it - you're on biz.i do want to maximize profits though, this is just a fact>or C. both.how would i spend my profits in a destroyed civilisation?
>>50374592true, china took a liking to pork simply out of practicality america is spoiled by plentiful beef, other cultures see it as luxurious
>>50374400the population is growing and consooming more meat, unless you start rationing reproduction through some dystopic system people are simply going to have to have less of it and more of this instead
>>50374638I'll keep watching you and may invest.
>>50374577world ending? no it'll just become very hellish akin to some sort of mega brazil but worse
>>50374426bingo! they're buying it up because they need to feed the consumption of their growing middle class, you've hit the nail on the head!
>>50374592the problem is the amount of resources dedicated to meat production as a whole, whether you kill a lot of cows and replace them with chicken to get a higher yeild you're still feeding into the problem unless you can somehow get a chicken to grow with like 1/1,000,000th the feed akin to some sort of super mealworm
>>50374647america in terms of global food chains is essentially a giga glutton that just consooms an unsustainable amount of food and then cries "how could this have happened to me?" when they've literally eaten the world to near death and now have to eat bugs
>>50374867don't reply to me you schizophrenic moron
>>50374411You know absolutely nothing about plants and animals. Go back. Plants and mushrooms are far from random. Your plan of bug burgers is going to fail because I see from skimming this thread you posses very little knowledge of how any of the world works outside the small bubble you live in. I literally walked outside and ate fresh blackberries off the vine with my wife when she was done gathering my free eggs the hens popped out for me today. Eat your bugs goyim, you're going to have to because none of you learned how to do anything important in the real world
>>50374925mald
>>50374930>your business will fail>you're retarded>you're going to *have* to eat the bugs because you're so retardedso you're saying everyone will have to eat my bugs? based
>>50370877>>50370884Why don’t they serve bugs at Davos??
>>50375164Because bugs are for poors. Deal with it or get out of your basement and make dollarinos.
>>50370884Yea I don't get it. Bugs have lots of protein and are good for you. Smh, just boomers complaining about nothing like usual. I heard burger king is working on a cricket burger. You know with beef prices being so high, I bet a bug burger would be pretty cheap and tasty.
>>50375164they do and if they didnt i'd presume it's because they can actually afford real meat unlike the literal billions who soon won't be able to
>>50375303basically yes and if burger king made a cricket burger i'd try it desu
People used to think eating sea bugs was gross! Lobster was considered slave food, can you imagine that?! Shrimp was fed to zoo animals and fed to insane asylum patients. Now, you have to be rich to enjoy shrimp like that. Well you clowns will be begging for cheap fried crickets soon enough.
>>50375371How you wanna market it? Do the I'm teaching you what's good for you approach. The S o y l e n t self-deprecating, technocratic approach. Or just commoditize it and sell to brands wholesale?
The best approach to market bugs would be to hire all the top TikTok stars and have them eating bugs. Food companies should ease the public into it by making fried goods and candies shaped to look like bugs. Another angle would make a hybrid product. Let's say a half and half burger, half meat half bug. You can promote that it's higher in protein and lesser in fat while still having the same great flavor. I'd call it the fiddy burger, or vitamin burger or super burger. Consumies love clever product names. Also can attach it to a holiday tradition. Coca-Cola synonymous with the red Santa Claus why can't bugs be synonymous with Easter or Thanksgiving? Maybe have Santa eating in half and half burger promoting health.
>>50375514I don't plan on marketing directly to consoomers, just marketing to big companies so they can swap out 60% of burger meat with my mealworm filler, add some artificial beef flavouring and continue to sell burgers at the same price while achieving a sudden 60% more profitability, do you really think people are gonna care when they see "processed natural protein additive" on the back of the packet of their food?
>>50370884why would i eat bugs if i don’t have to? i’ll stick with the trifecta of goodness - beef, chicken, and pork. enjoy your insect diet!
>>50375787i'd prefer to call it something innocuous and vague like "textured natural protein additive" or something more vague so people don't care when they see it in the mountain of other ingredients
>>50375909you will have to soon, meat is soon going to be out of your price range due to the population explosion
>>50374697So instead of fixing the problem we get nonstop workarounds that don't work. I feed my chickens mealworms and I just eat the chicken no problem.
>>50375787That's a good approach. Idk if he has the amount of money needed for it.Probably better to let the narrative develop, mass produce and sell wholesale. Let VC pumped startups and office stassies come up with all that shit.
>>50370877fried with bbq protein stack
>>50375983are you saying we *should* regulate reproduction?
>>50375994you can get a tiktoker with 10 million subs to say anything you wanted if you gave them like 2-3k
>>50375371> they doPost proof
>>50375983the chicken is less efficient than if you just cut out the chicken middleman and just ate mealworms, on a mass scale encompassing billions of people cutting out that middleman is the better option
>>50374638>the west wants bugs but not the cultures that currently eat bugs.>i will tell the market what it wants>implying there's some unredeamable, breaking point in agriculture but can't articulate what that is>he doesn't know the ascetic priest from neitzsche
>>50376075I've met people who've met people who've been to davos, I don't have audio clippings of what they told me though
>>50374697>as the population increases, there's simply no way to produce more traditional meati bet you thought the world would run out of oil in the 1970s
>>50376123>the west wants bugs but not the cultures that currently eat bugs.it doesn't matter what the west wants, it matters what's sustainable so i can continue to sell shit to them, dead men don't buy products hence why it's in my interest to keep them from dying in the most efficient way possible
>>50376149No? wtf? if someone said that they were probably only counting deposits that they had access to then if what were then current trends continued
>>50374819we're not at marginal production, resources, or peak innovation. why not just get rid of all motor vehicles and have us all ride bicycles because the world is running out of oil? oh wait, electric cars can become a thing. it's ok if you don't have an imagination. you're assuming whatever the trend is now - there will be more of it in the future. typical midwit thought.the fact that there's such a pushback to the bugs on here and you constantly have to defend it means you probably don't know your target market or maybe top down methods of marketing don't work. show me a youtuber who lives off grid or whatever who grows their own mealworms for human consumption and aschews traditional meat. i'll wait.when given a choice, people in the west don't want to eat bugs. simple as.
>>50375303>Bugs have lots of protein and are good for youBugs from the wilderness, not the bugs genetically enginereed, feed with basedbeans, remains of other bugs and grinded without even removing their toxic poo or parasites from its body.
>>50376172>it doesn't matter what the consumer wants. what matters is what others have decided.kek
>>50376252>we're not at marginal production, resources, or peak innovation. why not just get rid of all motor vehicles and have us all ride bicycles because the world is running out of oil? oh wait, electric cars can become a thing. it's ok if you don't have an imagination. you're assuming whatever the trend is now - there will be more of it in the future. typical midwit thought.the world [with the exception of the us] has either moved over or is moving over to pubilc transport with the most obvious examples being india and china, electric cars put a dent in the problem but aren't feasibly able to tackle it like china is. You call me a midwit but i'm thinking long term, just as the bourgeoisie of the past had to convince the peasants to eat potatoes in order to keep things sustainable and productive so too will we convince them to eat mealworms>the fact that there's such a pushback to the bugs on here and you constantly have to defend it means you probably don't know your target market or maybe top down methods of marketing don't work. Nah, these people are just holdovers from the older generations who aren't able to acclimate to the modern world as much and thus are hostile to it, they'll eat it when regular meat becomes too unsustainable and expensive for them to afford>when given a choice, people in the west don't want to eat bugs. simple as.it will be your choice however land is becoming more scarce and meat is becoming more and more unsustainable for a global population as large as ours so while it'll be a choice it'll be a choice in the sense that you choose not to eat Wagu A5 prime cuts every day instead of poorer quality meat
>>50376252Bro his target market is the companies that sell you the meat you buy. He just needs to convince them it's cheaper for them. They already feed them animals hormones so they grow faster and people don't care. Consoomers are just interested in how it tastes.
>>50370884I'm fine with it as long as it's clearly labelled on the package as insect derived gmo protein. Sounds like a pretty tough sell desu, anon.
>>50376279Pretty much. Food is like fashion, I remember when wearing tight jeans meant you were a faggot. Now I see everyone wearing them. Consumies do whatever their masters tell them. Men now collect sneakers like women collected high heels and I also remember when most men would laugh at that behavior.I think people would accept mystery foods labeled oddly, for example you go into a supermarket and you can buy ice cream or cheaper brands which are labeled frozen dairy dessert or frozen treat with the same packaging as regular ice cream. I believe a similar method can be used for bug burgers for great effect. Instead of calling it a burger maybe call it the cheddar stackhouse or the grilled cheddar stackhouse. That kinda sounds like a burger but not actually labeled as a burger.
>>50376279no, it matters what's sustainable so i can sell shit to them, you tell me how i'm supposed to sell shit to consumers who are already dead, i'll wait
like Sapper Morton in Blade Runner 2049? nigga i'd advise you wait for 2049 and play some shoot&loot like TimeRaiders to earn crypto
>>50376149This. Pork is the answer.
>>50376409>Bro his target market is the companies that sell you the meat you buy. He just needs to convince them it's cheaper for them. Yep, they'll do all the marketing for me and people will either not care or look at the ingredients on the back of the packaging and see that their food has triple the amount of protein so either way it's a win.
>>50376409>Consoomers are just interested in how it tastes.B I N G O! , you've not only hit the nail on the head but you've practically fucking nuked it!
Eating insects is seen as an ultra poorfag thing. You will never be able to push eating whole insects to the general public barring maybe a nuclear apocalypseor similar disaster.If you're talking about grinding up bugs and adding them to food, that already happens to some extent but even in this situation it's not really widely known by the public and you'd have to keep it that way.
Just let me eat the basedbeans instead, do we have a deal?
>>50376415if it was called something like "natural textured protein" would you care?
>>50376509it doesn't matter if the public knows or not, it just has to be widespread enough for people to not feasibly want to go through the effort to change it, akin to how pink slime is used in mcdonald's burgers, everyone knows but nobody gives a shit
>>50376417>you'll die unless you eat bugstell me how i know you're the real klaus?
>>50376568He isn't.Ask me how i know.
>>50376416yep, if people buy "american cheese flavored textured food product" they'll buy what i'm selling
>>50376568>your quality of life will decrease massively unless you move over to a more sustainable food source yes, it's in my interest to help everyone move over so they stay alive and make enough money to spend on consumption
>>50376558So true, I seen the McDonald's mcnuggets video with a guy looking at the meat under a microscope. It was loaded with mystery blue plastic. Looking at the comments of said video I noticed all the top comments saying how they dont care and begging him to stop trying to ruin McNuggets reputation. Once they eat the bugs, they will fight anyone who attempts to take it away, lol.
>>50371154Because it’s fucking gross. Same reason why I don’t eat shellfish because they’re nasty fucking sea bugs. Land bugs are even worse because you’re literally eating bug shit, bug brains, bug piss, and bug cum because that shit is too small to separate. Would you eat chicken or turkey burger if they just threw them into a grinder whole? Feather, intestines, beaks, eyes, and all??? You’re literally eating GREEN ground up chicken TURD in your meat. Hard chunks of chicken beak and bone, chicken COCK and chicken BUTTHOLE. That’s gross, eat it if you want you fucking animal but I would rather starve. I would rather resort to cannibalism that begin eat handfuls of nasty insectoids. I bet you would eat cockroaches too you nasty bitch.
>>50376532Yes because my suspicions would instantly be raised that you were trying to feed me insects.
Do you wanna do the bug production/harvesting AND the burger recipes? Bet there's a lot of patent stuff to do.
>>50376409objectively false given that there's endless marketing on humanely raised animals, organic farming, grass fed, local, fancy packaging, and literally what op is peddling - sustainable. all of which has nothing to do with taste.>>50376498the fact there's such an elaborate discussion here speaks to the contrary.your business won't even fail because you're selling bugs - there is a market for that. it'll fail because you're completely retarded as a businessman.
>>50376583how do you know?
>>50376416Wait till you hear about men's make up. Stryx guy's gonna be a billionaire
How do I profit from the coming bug market? Anyone know some good bug stocks?
>>50376664I literally told you i have seen it >>50372292
>>50376621yep, mcnuggets contain the chemical used to make fucking yoga mats but they'll fucking kill you if you try and take their nuggies away
>>50376627>Same reason why I don’t eat shellfish because they’re nasty fucking sea bugs.i respect the consistency
>>50376628lol>>50376634yes,yes and no, i don't plan on making burgers but instead just selling the bug protein to people who do and yes there's so much fucking patenting shit to do it's insane
go for it opthe worst that could happen is you don't sell and get to keep all that protein for your gainssimilarly i staked the NFTs i couldn't sell on Artlink for passive income
>>50376644These are premium products for upper class virtue signalling millennial women and the simps that wanna fuck them. It's more niche so you can charge way more. The normal consoomer that drives Ford and likes watching Mr Beast just cares about the taste. Watch an interview with the Four Sigmatic founder talking about how they tried to gain mass appeal. Consoomers don't care if mushrooms are healthy, more organic than coffee. They'll drink it if it's tastes good. Health signalling is a bonus.
>>50376644if i tried to raise a 100 trillion cows on earth using sustainable practices there'd be a problem, the earth would still be dying because no matter how good i'm treating the animals there's a finite amount of arible land etc. >>50376644the people on 4chan are not representative of the wider public, the same people who eat mcdonalds "food" filled with microplastics,onions,xenoestrogens,seed oils, pink slime, chemicals used to make yoga mats etc. will eat this too
>>50376723Try 55 Tiemann Place #50 if you really are in NY already.
>>50370877>Why are people so averse to the idea of eating mealworms if they''ve been processed?Because they're bugs retard
>>50376684I'd say wait between 2023-2025 because there's a huge famine coming and although it's not nessecarily going to kill many it's going to make food prices soar and people's diets shrink massively to cope with it.
>>50376820is that near the big church?
>>50376860No wonder why they want to keep the war in Ukraine going. The bread basket of Europe covered in war and can't produce enough wheat, perfect for the bug future. It's quite amusing how they just straight up admit to us what's going to happen.
>>50376886Riverside is nearby yes. But i suggest you make an appointment with the consultants first. You are smart anon. Just do some homework and dont tell them you got that adress from here.
>>50376762nah, i'm applying for subsidies from the FDA and USDA sustainable food programs which also guarantees all loans deemed "business appropriate" so if i fail i'll just probably sell this operation
>>50376946when there's no butter, no wheat and only a little meat what else is there going to be?
>>50376947i thought all around that area were just apartments and bars?
>>50370877The /pol/, /biz/ botposting crossover is exhausting
>>50370884It’s just polcels seething at everything that doesn’t fit their limited worldview. They are getting tired of vaccines and transgender people so they need a new boogeyman.
>>50376860you know what wasn't predicted in 2021? the coming food catastrophe. this is all recent hype. in 2024 we'll be worried about something else. enjoy being a continuous pawn to the media.
>>50377013I gave you the business adress. You will find out which LLC is based there and how to make an appointment.
>>50370884i told you and you strawmanned my argument. you seriously don't want to know.
>>50377061
>>50377072I'll have one of my friend's assistants check it out in a few hours
>>50377061He wants to profit from a narrative which is a completely reasonable thing to do especially if you can get subsidized. Doesn't matter if it plays out or not. I'd advice you to do the same unless you want to start eating bugs in the near future.
>>50377047makes sense, poltards are pretty annoying sometimes>>50377088i want explainations, not just "they're icky" but some actual reasoning as to why they're bad
>>50377200this narrative is overblown but true in the main which is why i think it'll be profitable and you are right about subsidies, they'll subsidise anything nowadays, i know a guy who runs a small bank who got 30 million in subsidies, shut down the bank and just retired lmao
>>50377185Those guys can help with certification and have some contacts. Deleted it because of seething polcels all around.
>>50370877Becuase they are trying to normalize this over meat as a replacement becuase it’s easier to control and manage populations. That’s fucking why you stupid ass.
>>50377273nice, thanks bro
>>50377291it's easier to control and manage populations when they eat bugs (which anyone can grow) over cattle (which only farmers can grow)? you're retarded as dogshit
>>50376095My chickens eat lots of bugs that humans can't eat or catch. Much more efficient to do things naturally.>>50376038Yes, holding on to ideas that perpetuate problems will bring nothing but doom. Societies have executed criminals for thousands of years. Stop paying for their children and letting them out to reproduce. If we can afford to pay people to have children we can afford pay them not to have children.
>>50377268Lol. Was thinking of new ventures. Up the list is stuff for boomer women. They spend so much money on all the artsy, crafty things and are loyal costumers and totally under-marketed. Everybody wants to sell to fickle zoom zooms and millwhimsicals. You think I can get subsidized by saying I'm offering them community and belonging so they feel taken care of which relieves the understaffed elderly care sector?
>>50377453doing things naturally isn't efficient at all in the slightest, hence why we have mass productioni agree with you on the depopulation idea but it aint gonna happen in the current climate>>50377492if you can make a company and have a coherent idea you can find a lawyer to sift through the papers and find out what federal loans,grants, assistance and subsidies you'll get because holy shit they're giving money away at this point especially if you're a small bank
Are people really this bored with their lives?? Over 100 posts in the same thread?? Jesus fucking Christ, it’s be one thing if it was funny…
>>50373944yes please do, post everything about your business to Business and Finance, gretchkin.
>111 post by this ID
mister bug bot sir, I for one think its an excellent idea. I would like to speak further with you about why I think it is a excellent idea. If we could speak in person I'm sure I could lend some insight into how others would be more open to the idea.Perhaps an in person meeting is in order?
>>50378011scroll up, i already said what hotel i'm in right now