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[Anonymous No.50340679]

Much of Europe’s debt woes are caused by pensions. If they were to be cut it would greatly alleviate the economic hardship on the young.

Why do the boomers have such an iron fist over the young and why don’t they fight back?

[Anonymous No.50341091]

>>50340679
Because the EU government likes an overbearing ponzi scheme pyramid setup across the entire economy, especially the so called "essential" services as it expands the state and it's power over the people.

[Anonymous No.50341132]

>survivors pension
That better not be jew

[Anonymous No.50341183]

>>50341091
It's the reason they are the land of "free" gibs yet their services always run at a deficit. The NHS for example, is broke. And the reason is essentially the same reason some medicines in America can end up costing millions of dollars. Because the government will allocate some resources to buy that medicine, no matter how absurd and non-sensical big farms makes the prices for those meds. Which leads to shortages at times or a massive deficit that will require more control in the form of taxation over your life. And even if it ran at 100% taxation, meaning you'd be a slave to the government, it still wouldn't be enough money.

[Anonymous No.50341426]

>>50341132
It isn't
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/work/unemployment-and-benefits/death-grants/index_en.htm

[Anonymous No.50342074]

>>50340679
because old people have first hand experience in how ruthless, cut-throat, demented, and downright-sociopathic, other people and especially their own goverment is. To give up anything to this hoarde of villainy is to throw pearls before swine. They would find some way to leverage that capital into an even worse outcome. you can count on it.

[Anonymous No.50344070]

hence why it makes no sense to import genetic and economic dead-weight (brownskins) when what they need is fewer higher quality net positive contributors

[Anonymous No.50344416]

Greeks, Italians and Japanese seem to have a specific generation that lives to 90-100

[Anonymous No.50344463]

>>50340679
I wish the boomer remover did its job.

[Anonymous No.50346707]

>>50341132
it should be called widower pension desu

[Anonymous No.50346845]

>>50340679
Keep giving "free healthcare", more gibs to N- and import more indians to work and sustain the elders, this is the solution

[Anonymous No.50346865]

>>50340679
German here, I have absolutely zero confidence in our pension system and I'm convinced I will never see a single penny from it. So the faster they just cut that shit, the faster we can get it over with. The boomer ponzi needs to go.

[Anonymous No.50346879]

>do 3 hours of work in a government job a week
>do this for 20 years
>"I deserve my full salary forever"

Weird desu

[Anonymous No.50346887]

>>50344070
Yeah import upper caste indians they work hard

[Anonymous No.50346905]

>>50346887
LOL that is a good one

[Anonymous No.50346930]

Pensions wouldn't be much of a problem if people kept fucking and having children and replacement levels. But they aren't.

[Anonymous No.50347025]

>>50346930
They'd still be a problem. Population growth isn't infinite

[Anonymous No.50347062]

Pensions are reabsorbed by the economy as consumption of goods and services. It is essentially a stimulus.

[Anonymous No.50347066]

>>50340679
>survivors pension
I can't FUCKING believe it those bumbling retards are getting pensions now? Who's even paying for this

[Anonymous No.50347085]

>>50346905
Bastard

[Anonymous No.50347090]

>>50340679
Well, the current glut of boomers retiring is something bound to happen after a demographic shift, meaning that we just have to sit it out. After all the boomerfags finally die, and the younger population isn't as financially strapped anymore, they will have more children again. It's not like people stop having kids because they don't like having a family, it's all demographics

[Anonymous No.50347120]

>>50340679
>pension expenditure as a % of GDP
But pensions end up contributing to GDP so what sort of self-referential bullshit chart is that? That money goes right back in

[Anonymous No.50347295]

>>50347066
you are

[Anonymous No.50347384]

you know the system is unsustainable when your boomer parents that only worked standard trade/retail jobs get a pension higher than what an engineer with 5 years experience make, plus all the benefits + while also having several flats they rent out to wagies for half their monthly income

[Anonymous No.50347753]

>>50340679
He doesn't know that in Italy for example baby boomers had their aging pension lowered at 40 years old in the so called baby pension (I personally knew two of them one raking 4k a month since the 70 and one raking 1.2k a month ) and now their are giving away literally free money to the slave class (reddito di cittadinanza/welfare) and Italy Is only the last nation doing this while France and north country are doing this since years

[Anonymous No.50348451]

>>50340679
I hate Europoort tax stealing have my wahe

[Anonymous No.50348845]

>>50341183
At any percent of taxation you are a slave to the government

[Anonymous No.50348909]

>>50346905
it is true my basterd

[Anonymous No.50349028]

>>50347062
and how are they financed? fucking retard

[Anonymous No.50349063]

>>50349028
europoors aren't that smart

[Anonymous No.50349126]

>>50340679
Because they are afraid this generation will reinstate senicide or even worst force them to get out of their fat entitled ass and work

[Anonymous No.50349169]

>>50340679
It’s the fukin retarded millenials that vote in socialists fags that implement pensions..

[Anonymous No.50349513]

>>50340679
>Why do the boomers have such an iron fist over the young
They have the numbers and therefore the votes

[Anonymous No.50349764]

>>50340679
this is the biggest "its over" map chart in existence but its goes over brainlets heads. The fact remains that demographic collapse is by far worst problem continent faces and yet our leaders will constantly talk about anything and everything else ("green" transition, equality, feminism, integration of migrants, war in ukraine...).
Its almost absurdly funny in a way how nobody dares to adress it despite its importance

[Anonymous No.50349888]

>>50349764
what happens after the collapse?

[Anonymous No.50349938]

>inject everyone over 65 with an untested gene therapy
>pension problem resolves

[Anonymous No.50349958]

>>50340679
The Dutch have quite a good privatized pension system. Sadly the EU is going to steal it to finance deficits of Club Med.

[Anonymous No.50350035]

>>50340679
all the more reason to continue to live with your parents as long as possible. it's a 4D chess move to move back to a trad household

[Anonymous No.50350039]

>>50349888
The truth is you are already in one. Its just slow decline going on for decades where society keeps getting poorer, less safe and more unstable both politically and economically. Rome wasnt build in a day but it didnt fall in a day eiter.
Another common sentiment I see online is >>50347090, basically that old will die and that will free up younger people. However even if their might be less old people in terms of absolute numbers the ratio between young:old just keeps getting more abysmal over time (as seen in map I posted), since each generation has less kids.
A lot of people expect some sort of revolution since the problem is unsolvable because of several reasons (one of them being that old people are the most important voting block and just keep getting larger proportionally), but I am doubtful, also revolution is usually started by large mass of young people, which simply isnt there.

[Anonymous No.50350040]

>>50346930
That would be anti-semitic though.