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50276618 No.50276618 [Reply] [Original]

Well can you explain it?????

>> No.50276649

Might makes right.

>> No.50276660

>>50276649
Is that why the left is winning??

>> No.50276672

>>50276618
There is a reason why keeping people financially illiterate for as long as possible is the primary goal of public education complex.

>> No.50276677

I do what I want with my capital. If you don’t like the job or the salary, just go work somewhere else anon. I’m sure there are plenty of firms fighting after you with such a….busy resume.

>> No.50276682

>twitter screenshot thread
To entertain your post though, I buy avocados in a Midwestern state weekly. They're $1-2. If I didn't spend $50/year on produce AND budget bread I would be able to afford 7 houses in 7 years. That's the power of passive income.

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>>50276660
This is the “leader” of the “left”

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>>50276683
Again...so youre saying the right is weaker than that faggot???

>> No.50276705

>>50276618
One of these things I can change myself, one of them I cannot. Which should I focus on? If you can't answer this you are probably a dummy like this tweeter.

>> No.50276720
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50276720

>>50276618
they should be entitled to their wealth, no matter how egregiously excessive, so long as it’s still possible for a poorfag to climb the same ladder

>> No.50276749

>>50276705
>muh individualism
cuck

>> No.50276753

>>50276618
Not
Your
Business

Don’t like my yacht and airplane? Go work for someone else.

>> No.50276755

>>50276749
>completely missed the point

>> No.50276763

Because of the Golden Rule — “He who has the gold makes the rules.”

>> No.50276773
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>>50276720
Lol why do you think they created the central bank? To make it damn near impossible for anyone else to climb that ladder. They control the very currency youre slaving for. Its not gold, its not bullets, nor beans, nor rice...its a piece of paper that they change the value of at a whim. Wake the fuck up

>> No.50276774

>>50276618

>One option takes minimal personal effort
>One option requires others to bend to your wishes when you haven't proven you deserve that outside effort or provided anything of value to the public at large yourself. Just entitled screeching on twitter.

Gee Bill, I don't know which is the correct answer.

>> No.50276780

>>50276773
Working exponentially harder for a wage thats constantly losing value is the true path to serfdom and slavery

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>>50276774
>justifying greed

>> No.50276803

if the ceo of ford forfieted his 23m compensation and distributed it evenly amongst the 186k employees they would each recieve 123.65$

cutting ceo pay would have negligible positive effects and huge risks

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50276834

>>50276803
Well then his position sounds resundant then

>> No.50276840

>>50276803
CEOs are just well paid wagies. They are a representative of capital, but are not necessarily capital themselves (except usually in the case of founder CEOs). The real battle is capital vs labor, not management vs labor — which is what (((they))) want you to focus on.

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>>50276840
Im glad someone gets it

>> No.50276854

>>50276773
>>50276790


You aren't thinking very hard, are you? You play the same game they do, and you can if you have discipline. The world could collapse tomorrow and I would be perfectly fine while latte-sipping faggots worry about where their next venti is coming from and telling all their trans friends on twitter how oppressed they are. Fuck 'em. Tired of people who don't make their way. Crying about the system is cope for an inability to adjust. You just weren't meant to make it, sorry. The world belongs to the innovative and adaptable. You can't see it because you have a defeatist, loser, victim attitude. Even in a world of ultra greedy elites a cunning enough individual can do well, you just have to learn the rules of the game and be ready to pivot when opportunity comes. If that's distasteful to you then feel free to reeeeee all the way to your oblivion.

>> No.50276855

I think what people fail to take away from that advice is that they're not telling you to not buy coffee ever, they're telling you to not do it every day. Having an extra 200 to 400 dollars on your credit card bill every month because of eating out really screws you financially when you don't make that much.

>> No.50276884

>>50276683
You're telling me the right is so weak that they're losing to this fool? Christ almighty, rightists are an even bigger joke than I originally thought LMAO

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>>50276773
i’m not gonna disagree with you, but i’d be curious to see a timeline of wealth disparity in the west from the advent of capitalism until now. i wonder if the number of most wealthy (as a ratio to the general population) has really changed, and the chances of getting there

>> No.50276904

>>50276854
maybe within 2 or 3 generations
if you really think you can become a billionaire starting off from poverty or extremely low status you're retarded

>> No.50276916

>>50276649
So Jews are the mightiest then by your logic since they have most money?

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>>50276683
No it isn't you moron we don't know the shadow cabinets names
those are actors, that's not even the real Biden

>> No.50276933

>>50276618
explain what exactly?
why people like spaceships?
it's a fucking spaceship

>> No.50276935 [DELETED] 

>>50276855
>>50276854
>>50276852
>>50276840
>>50276834
Tired of being broke, now you don't have excuses

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>>50276618
Easy you not being able to live within your means is your problem and you not having the skills to earn a living wage is your problem. The world owes you nothing. Grow up and get over it.

>> No.50276941

>>50276855
>corporations telling potential customers not to buy their products to save money
Do people really think this?

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>>50276854
Youre so plugged into the (((Matrix))) its not even funny. Playing a rigged game is not how you win it for your descendants, yes you ca play it smartly and get further ahead maybe...but youre just propping up a slave system and helping no one. Quit being self centered and worshiping currency. Dont play the game, for the sake of those after us, lets fucking behead the masters of the game and start something better.

Currency is your God. And generating it is your religion. Your sins will soon find you out, and you will reap what you sow

>> No.50276972

>>50276753
The only Republican comment on this thread.

>> No.50276974

>>50276960
The matrix and (((the redpill))) were created by two literal trannies and it has become the central theme to rightist ideology. Let that sink in for a moment.

>> No.50276984

She's right in some aspects and most people agree that taxes can be raised, but out of control government spending needs to be cut too

>> No.50277004

>>50276984
We can start by cutting off the red welfare states that leach all of the tax dollars generated by blue states.

>> No.50277014

>>50276984
I know you think you made a big boy point, but they weren't trannies when the movie was made. If anything liberal hollywood did its work fast. Let that sink in faggot.

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>>50276938
Idk why i even try with you fags. The propaganda has been beaten into your small brains so deeply that im afraid you'll never ever unplug and would fight tooth and nail to stop anyone from taking your shackles off

>> No.50277021 [DELETED] 

>>50277004
Imagine a world without niggers...

>> No.50277051

>>50277016
You have the attitude of a pod dweller. If you won't take responsibility for yourself then don't complain with what you end up with.

>> No.50277052

>>50276974
Jesus Christ, how new are you??? They werent fucking trannie faggots when they wrote it. Soon afterwards they began hanging around with a kikr dominatrix that kept them on a nonstop supply of ketamine and part of the sessions were forcing them to go out in public dressed as women...which became more and more inlvoved and eventually they were full blown mentally ill faggots.

Even if that wasnt the case, the allegory still stands

>> No.50277053

>>50277014
In your blinding anger you quoted the wrong post. Impressive, chud. You've been obsessed with trannies all along, that's the real redpill.

>> No.50277056

>>50276618
Because there is lots of you (employees) to choose from relative to how many employers there are.
Also, it is a minority of business owners that have multiple yachts and rockets etc.

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50277067

>>50276704
>>50276884
Lol, I’m shaking! I can’t stand the thought of some pale, skinny leftist trying to sucker punch me! Why don’t you head back over to Reddit? You’re not here to make money anyway.
>>50276927
Didn’t get the “”, huh?

>> No.50277074

>>50277052
>They werent fucking trannie faggots when they wrote it
That's not how that works

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50277076

>>50277052
lol
lmao even

>> No.50277094

>>50277067
>gets BTFO by own logic
>r-r-re-reddit!
oh nonononon LMAOOOO

>> No.50277102 [DELETED] 

>>50277053
>chud

How is this even a little offensive. You might as well call someone a cracker.

*ahem*

Nigger

>> No.50277115

>>50277102
You're the one shaking with anger so I guess you're the most qualified to explain yourself, chud.

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>>50276618
>Well can you explain it?????

THEY have the money, the employees do NOT.
Owners can easily replace employees.
Lowering expenses is a goal for owners, employees are an expense.

Why would an owner pay an employee more when they can just be replaced with a cheaper employee?

>> No.50277131

>>50277004
Well...if you wanna talk about leaches, in 2020 (Thanks Zion Don) we gave 120.4 of American tax payer dollars PER SECOND to Israel. Money they used to fund among other thing, free healthcare and free college for EVERY SINGLE FUCKING CITIZEN. WHILE YOU AND I, THE ONES PAYING FOR IT, GO BANKRUPT IF WE EVEN HAVE TO VISIT THE ER. Whatever you think about DA JOOS!!!! that is not right...that is evil

Are you for cutting Israel off?

>> No.50277171

>>50276938
>The world owes you nothing.
pretty retarded take. you've never read about peasant revolts, have you? there's a lot of them and if they have nothing to lose, they'll rape and murder you just for the fun of it.

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>>50277051
That is so ironic coming from someone whoe trades for everything in federal reserve notes. I do take responsibility for myself...ACTUAL RESPONSIBILITY, most of the meat i either raise or get from the woods, same for my vegetables i garden my ass off. All you do is use your jew daddys central bank federal reserve notes and trade them for fucking goods, and then have the pea sized balls and insight to lecture others on taking responsibility... unfuckingbelievable

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>>50277117

>> No.50277191

>>50277117
Not surprising that a NEET incel has no clue what the job market is like right now lmao

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>>50277067
Im not a faggot fucking leftist. But im not a (((rightoid))) either. Wake up brother and realize theyre in on it together and playing us up on both sides...same coin, 2 different sides....but still the same coin.

>> No.50277271

>>50276618
I am so goddamn sick of seeing people respond to a burning AIDS of the eyes and teeth cost of living crisis and grinding poverty in general by tweeting about how unrealistic it is to expect people to afford mortgages by eating less avocado toast. I have never had avocado toast in my life. I don't even know what the fuck avocado toast looks like because I've never seen a picture of it. I hate avocado and think it tastes like dirt to begin with. fuck you and fuck your stupid avocado toast. I will pay you to blow up a nuclear power plant to force the government to introduce rent controls if it means you'll stop putting the rose emoji in your social media and posting compressed 240x240 pixel graphs demonstrating how workers' wages have stagnated since the 1970s while productivity and CEO salary has skyrocketed. I know. we know. everybody fucking knows corporations and banks and governments are not your friends. I don't care about your vegan woods off the grid no cops diverse natural holistic real lived body experience commune that's going to be profiled in an op-ed by the guardian or some other gay socialist newspaper and get all the uovotes on reddit. you eat non-GMO pussy and you're a weird lame scrubbed clean spongebob squarepants cavity headed slouch. fuck you. get a job.

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>>50277218

Who pays the taxes?
Bottom 40% pays NOTHING in federal taxes, in fact they GET federal money.

How the fuck is it fair that the wealthy pay a large percentage of their money to the federal government and the poor pay none, YET the poor man's vote equals the rich man's??

>> No.50277322

>>50277304
behold, the rightist cuck

>> No.50277345

If you can't afford rent you probably shouldn't buy lattes, but avocados are one of the cheapest and most versatile fruits out there. $1 diggerydoo dollar per avo is a steal.

>> No.50277348

>>50277067
Yet.. you're LOOSING to these people anon. LOOOOOOOOOOOSSIIIIIIING!!!!

>> No.50277350

>>50276618
>can't think on a macro scale

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>>50277322
>behold, the rightist cuck

NOTHING is stopping you from becoming rich.

>> No.50277393

>>50277389
same

>> No.50277418

>>50276672
Ironically, once I became financially literate I agree with the system

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>>50277271
> fuck you. get a job.
No

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>>50277393

Yeah BUT my goal is much harder than most, I want to become a multimillionaire (at least 2 million) in a Roth account.
You can only put in a few thousand a year.
I have invested in really really good companies and have made it to the 500K mark.
Last month I put EVERYTHING into Tesla.
I should hit my goal around 2030.

>> No.50277688

I wish GME would crash already so the dumb faggot leftists would go back to /v/, /a/, and whatever other consumerist shitholes they came from

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>>50277271
Lol i tried posting that wages productivity graph but duckduckgo deleted it out of my folder. Im stealing this and turning it into a copy pasta

>> No.50277743

>>50277074
>you are born transgender, its not a fetish that is developed!
Fuck off kike.

>> No.50277766

>50277094
>11 pbtid
Lmao seething

>> No.50278003

>>50276682
if you didnt buy avacados you could buy 7 houses? what the fuck are you talking about retard

>> No.50278035

>>50277777

>> No.50278070

>>50276974
They stole the concept of 'the redpill' returning somebody to true reality from Total Recall

>> No.50278078
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50278078

Not being able to afford rent is the employees' problem not the employer. they can get a better job if they don't like it

>> No.50278295

Poor people are so annoying and whiny, plus they smell bad

>> No.50278497

>>50277482
>Last month I put EVERYTHING into Tesla
You are fucked

>> No.50278577

>>50276889
>but i’d be curious to see a timeline of wealth disparity in the west from the advent of capitalism until now

Wealth disparity is a meme. The difference doesn’t matter. Focus on the standard of living for the poor and middle class. Almost everyone in the US has food, air conditioning, cable, internet, a washer and dryer, etc. The standard of living for “the poor” in the Us is upper middle class is most of the world. The “homeless” crisis growing only the west coast is 90% meth or fentanyl addicts. Capitalism has raised up the poor whereas communism beats down the middle class while protecting the ruling elite. As for OP pic related, try confiscating Musks entire net worth of $44 bil, liquated on the open market crushes the value of the assets to maybe $10 bil, then give everyone on earth $1.30.

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>>50278497
>>Last month I put EVERYTHING into Tesla
> You are fucked

Maybe... we will see in 7 years.
I thought long and hard about it.
I am definitely pushing a lot of risk, BUT I got a little insider info that says the robot they are working on is the real deal.
Worth TRILLIONS.
Expect to be amazed then really underwhelmed (it is not fucking Arnold terminator level) BUT it has the basics of a general purpose humanoid robot that can do actual needed physical labor.

>> No.50278939

>>50278578
>I got a little insider info

All that is is a YouTube video that some guy made saying he has a friend in the robot AI field that is buying Tesla stock like crazy.

>> No.50279256

>>50276960
About that pic. I believe our current system and the accumulation of wealth is derived from the fact that in the northern hemisphere, you can't simply live a day to day life, otherwise you'll starve during winter. I think it's one of the reasons why primitive people in the rainforest never felt the urge to go past the stone age, they simply didn't have to.

The problem of our modern societies is that we're becoming more and more psychotic because of that kind of behavior, and the outcome can't be good.

>> No.50279306

>>50276618
simple
having the money to buy yachts in a free market means you must be providing a lot of value to people
not having the money to pay rent in a free market means you must not be providing much value to employers

>> No.50279350

>>50276660
imagine saying this just weeks after you had a complete meltdown over RvW. Your president also has one of the lowest ratings out there, he may even reach trump levels. Inflation is really doing a number in the middle to lower classes, big cities with homelessness and insane rent prices. You sure you winning there bud?
>inb4 it's trump's fault or it's putin's fault!!!!

>> No.50279366

>>50277016
I'm sorry I have a job that pays really well and I enjoy doing. I'm so sorry I'm not a fucking loser that works min wage and spends the rest of his free time doing nothing productive. I'm so sorry I have ambition and like enjoying a good life. So fucking sorry..... oh wait, no, I don't give a fuck what you and yours cry about at any given time of the day.

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>>50277004
>cut off BIPOC folx from their welfare checks
uhm sweetie, this is NOT OK

>> No.50279454

>>50277688
it's bunker trannies. they raid this board frequently along with other popular boards.

>> No.50279478

>>50276618
I hate lefties so damn much for their retardation but at the very same time I feel sorry for them.

>> No.50279487

>>50278003
...what is satire? What is thinking buying food is why society is straddled with debt? How are you reading this?

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50279926

left right goodnight.

>> No.50279929

You can't tell someone what to do with their own money.

>> No.50279950

>>50276618
first one is genuine advice for getting out of a bad situation, second one is bad advice on how to piss away money pointlessly.

>> No.50279952

>>50276773
Can you say based? I want this painting.

>> No.50279969

>>50276683
>Democrats are the left
>t. absolute retard

>> No.50279985

>>50276618
Because if you don’t work, someone else will, if majority won’t work, we will just import more people who will.
The C-suite people are irreplaceable.

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>>50279306
the free market is a utopian fantasy on par with marxism and does not exist
>>50279929
>hey google what is taxation

>> No.50280037

>>50276927
This is literally just a face-lift dumbass

>> No.50280052

>>50276618
>Explain it to me like I'm in kindergarten
Well see we let jews make a central banking system, then we let women vote and then yeah as you can see it was pretty much all down hill from there.

>> No.50280056

>>50277004
>doesn't know that the red states are "welfare" states only because of Southern niggers living in BLUE cities

Ngmi.

>> No.50280073

>>50277076
Yeah, a decade after the movies came out. Same thing like harry potter writer suddenly changing characters into gays or blacks, basically headcanon

>> No.50280091

>>50276660
>>50276683
>>50279350
It's not clear what left means in the context of a neoliberal keynesian who wants to promote MMT as a way to trick socialists into destroying the working class while making them think it's helping.

>> No.50280108

>>50277074
Literally does not matter anyway.
People =/= the point they are making
That said, the red pill vs blue pill is a psyop

>> No.50280172

>>50276618
your employment isn't worth a living wage

>> No.50280236

>>50276618
They can find another employee if you decide to quit, but you become homeless if you decide to stop paying rent

>> No.50280332

>>50276649
Rule by might. Die in fight.

>> No.50280354

>>50276834

I'll just hire immigrants retard

>> No.50280372

>>50277052
We’re reaching levels of cope that shouldn’t even be possible

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>>50276852

Except Libertarians were against bailouts and you retard Socialists thought making the government more powerful would fix your problems. You live on a mental loop they will never end.

>Coporations get bigger and more abusive
>Give government more power to deal with corporations
>Corporations buy the government and get policies passed in their favor
>Corporations get bigger and more abusive
>Give government more power to deal with corporations
>Corporations buy the government and get policies passed in their favor
>Corporations get bigger and more abusive
>Give government more power to deal with corporations
>Corporations buy the government and get policies passed in their favor
>Corporations get bigger and more abusive

>> No.50280626

>>50276618
Don't work there if they don't pay well enough

>> No.50280777

>>50276916
Yes if you are getting fucked over by jews you deserve it. Just get good

>> No.50280906

>>50277171
nobody is owed anything dipshit if you want to go and kill people because you cant eat avocado on toast go ahead

>> No.50280911

>>50276618
You're parents weren't rich so you rent, their parents were rich so they rent you their homes their parents bought for way cheaper.

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>>50276649
>Might makes right.
Jewish history says otherwise.

>> No.50280921

>>50276677
You type like a faggot with male patter blandness, probably a tranny.

>> No.50280925

>>50276704
>>50276884
America was never right wing and never will be, it's a Jewish vessel state you fucking nigger.

>> No.50280926

>>50280916
jews killed plenty of people in their time

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>>50276938
>haha i will pay you a wage that is not livable with current inflation, tough shit
>shit, why wont people work anymore

>> No.50280942

>>50276974
>become the central theme to rightist ideology.
No it hasn't you fucking doss cunt.

>> No.50280943

>>50280916
>what is the monopoly on force

>> No.50280951

>>50277004
>Red states are more rural.
>Blue states are more urban.
>One has less population, one has more.
Now which one takes more welfare, reddit nigger.

>> No.50280956

>>50277115
>shaking with anger
More assumptions and probably projection.
American? Yes.

>> No.50280962

>>50277191
>NEET incel
Get a new buzzword.

>> No.50280965

jews

>> No.50280969

>>50276720
>they should be entitled to their wealth, no matter how egregiously excessive, so long as it’s still possible for a poorfag to climb the same ladder

it isnt really possible. nearly all people who are born poor stay poor.

>> No.50281070

>>50277304
>YET the poor man's vote equals the rich man's??
It doesn't though.

>> No.50281077

>>50277322
>rightist
Lmao, stop posting.
That guy isn't a right wingers.
>>50277389
You know, except rich parents, an education and start up capital.

>> No.50281113

>>50276677
Based

>> No.50281130
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>>50280965
/thread

>> No.50281134

>>50276660
idk all the areas leftists inhabit seem to get destroyed by rioting and other peaceful protests pretty regularly, I wouldn't call that winning

>> No.50281153

>>50276618
Because you live in a society controlled by khazars, shitskins, females and regular white male psychopaths woman

>> No.50281393

>>50279366
Your job is probably fake and your "good life" is nothing but superficial, meaningless bullshit. You probably took the vax to keep your job too, kek

>> No.50281559

It's pretty simple; Amazon employees are easily replaceable while Andy Jassy isn't.

>> No.50281662

>>50278577
this

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50281673

>complain about not getting "living wage"
>is alive

>> No.50281784

>>50280091
Why are they like this?

>> No.50281807

>>50276649
/thread

>> No.50281875

>>50280626
We're else can I make over 25 an hour in central Massachusetts while still working a factory job?

>> No.50281887

>>50280943
>>50280926
The idea, retards, is that Jews didn't have to use a military to take over your country.
They started a bank.

>> No.50281931

>>50278578
liar

>> No.50281955

>>50278939
which vid?

>> No.50285003

>>50276974
Imagine being this retarded

>> No.50285159

>>50279306
>Providing
You mean extracting retard. If you were providing value you wouldn't end up with more yachts afterwards than before.

>> No.50285183

>>50280056
No he's just a disingenuous faggot

>> No.50285190

>>50281673
basado

>> No.50285522

>>50281393
>Your job is probably fake
is it seriously that difficult for you to comprehend that's a literal class out there (mostly PMCs and middle-upper classes) that are killing it?

>> No.50285549

>>50276618
Im becoming more and more of an old school socialist the older the I get. There is simply no denying it that the vast majority of us are getting completely kiked by a capitalist class (of which the worst offenders have a very sketchy early history).
Fuck this shit. Either I make it or I will support burning this shit down and confiscate the means of production, which in this case is just an over leveraged jewish financial system

>> No.50285808

>>50281955

I think it was this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs8FSdFEdHc

>> No.50287261

>>50276618
In the state of nature, Andrea Juncker would be a sex slave pumping out babies from the age of 12 until she dies in labor or from a horrible infection at 30. She is allowed to speak publicly and use technology only because of the people she is currently shitting on. Once those people are gone, women like Andrea Juncker will return to the state of nature

>> No.50287295

>>50279350
Biden’s approval rating is even lower than Trump’s last days at this point

>> No.50288316

>>50281784
Fundamentally they're lemmings who believe the propaganda but outwardly project an image of rebellion because their side has appropriated the symbols of revolt in support of people who have been in political power for 50 years.