Why aren't PMs mooning?

[Anonymous No.50260400]

>Inb4 all the crypto fags shit posting just to shit post

Honest question. The price action in PMs right now literally defies all economic law. It makes no sense. I know the old saying that markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvevent but this level of market insanity is truly unprecidented!

How are the jews pulling this off?

[Anonymous No.50260403]

>>50260400

[Anonymous No.50260441]

>>50260400
what are PMs actually used for industrially? how much % of production is consumed for that purpose and how much does that actually cost?

[Anonymous No.50260449]

>>50260400
gold and silver won't go up until the fed signals that it has given up trying to increase rates, and will instead turn the money spigot back on

inflation isn't actually that bad right now. you clowns think 30% more for groceries is "hyperinflation"? lol

[Anonymous No.50260451]

enjoy your heavy bags

[Anonymous No.50260465]

>>50260400
People are selling like crazy, everyone needs cash right now.

[Anonymous No.50260466]

>>50260400
>literally defies all economic law.
No one wants to buy a bucket of shit, no one wants silver.

[Anonymous No.50260496]

>>50260400

[Anonymous No.50260501]

>>50260400
american eagles are 30 bucks
gold eagles are 1919 bucks.
People DO want these metals. But demand is not growing. There is inflation, but the extra money isn't going toward precious metals. People have alternatives to gold and silver.

[Anonymous No.50260513]

>>50260400
Do you know what market makers are?

[Anonymous No.50260519]

Because they suppress the price of gold by selling paper gold. Same strategy they are using now with Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.50260530]

>>50260519
yup. i love telling this to btc fags. muh 100k+ btc will never happen for this reason

[Anonymous No.50260628]

because only a few dozen people are collecting boomer rocks. The rest of the world understands that they are just rocks.

[Anonymous No.50260637]

>>50260400
>commodities bubble in the process of collapsing (after March most commodities fell)

>OP says a commodity not falling is against economic law

What does he mean by this

[Anonymous No.50260638]

>>50260400

Paper contracts

[Anonymous No.50260657]

>>50260400
>listens to jewish boomer talk radio (glenn beck, shawn hannity, etc.)
>buy my silver rock, goy
>"it's an excellent storage for wealth"
>retard believes storing wealth is an "investment".
>retard ask why he's boomer rock never moves
>retard cannot comprehend the difference between locking wealth away, and actively investing inside of a world market.

holy shit

>open a savings account with 0% apy
>h-how come my money is the same as when I first deposited?


>storage of wealth
>storage
>storage

Your money isn't doing shit nigger, if your money is STORAGE

[Anonymous No.50260678]

>>50260400
Inflation and economic stagnation internationally is outpacing the US dollar's inflation, so there's still demand for USD as a hedge against the faster falling currencies of other nations and blocs. The US Dollar's status as an international reserve currency will also keep it afloat until a substantial economic downturn or political upheaval shakes faith in the US dollar.

If you sincerely believe that these economic conditions are a Jewish trick, you aren't going to make it. Study basic macroeconomics instead of schizoposts.

[Anonymous No.50260702]

>>50260638
>>50260519

If this was true in hand premium would be massively over spot (think %25+ at least) and it isn’t. You can only use synthetics to affect actual so much

[Anonymous No.50260719]

>>50260501
>People have alternatives to gold and silver.
Stonks and bonds both crashing in stagflationary era. there aren't alternatives

[Anonymous No.50260722]

>>50260400
Check what it does historically, silver will hit $14, crab for a month or two, take off back to $20, crab for a a week or two, and take off.

[Anonymous No.50260734]

>>50260400
They won't moon until at least one of these events occur:

- The Fed bails on trying to control inflation
- COMEX reserves hit a critically low level
- Manipulators at JPM go to prison instead of receiving an insignificant fine for manipulating prices
- Industry demand overtakes the available supply
- Rising energy costs put a much higher floor on PM prices

It's almost a 100% probability that one or more of these will happen in the next couple years, I'm accumulating cheapies in both AU/AG while I can.

[Anonymous No.50260750]

>>50260449
Based. I keep trying to tell people that this isn't what hyper inflation is but it's a scary sounding word so people politicized it. Typical.

[Anonymous No.50260759]

>>50260719
They crashed realative to usd. And they also have I bonds paying currently near %10 on usd

[Anonymous No.50260786]

>>50260657
"wealth" means purchasing power keeps up with inflation. PM price action right now isn;t even storing wealth relative to the level of inflation, hence why it is defing all economic law

[Anonymous No.50260794]

>>50260441
Silver is used to coat the current-carrying copper lines in power grid equipment. It's one of the best conducting metals.
Apparently gold is used in circuit boards for computers and cell phones. But no idea how

[Anonymous No.50260800]

>>50260678
If this were the explanation, than PMs relative to other currencies than the dollar should be mooning. they aren't.

it clearly has nothing to do with relative currency strengths, something more jewish is going on

[Anonymous No.50260812]

>>50260449
Indeed inflation is still under control, it is just extremely high. Hyperinflation is when society is failing, not when people are merely struggling to pay bills

[Anonymous No.50260829]

>>50260734
>It's almost a 100% probability that one or more of these will happen in the next couple years,

not this one
- Manipulators at JPM go to prison instead of receiving an insignificant fine for manipulating prices

[Anonymous No.50260847]

>>50260400
Why would they?

[Anonymous No.50260916]

>>50260847
Historical norms show silver will go to $60-$75 within the next 3 years, but historical norms also show it has to keep dumping to around $14 first before that can happen. Due to the tards at WSS, the comex already has a much lower than typical supply of registered silver, which could (but probably won't) make the dump less extreme and the pump more extreme

[Anonymous No.50260959]

>>50260702
you don't know what you're talking about
premiums have nothing to do with paper gold/silver

[Anonymous No.50261030]

>>50260786
>"wealth" means purchasing power keeps up with inflation. PM price action right now isn;t even storing wealth relative to the level of inflation, hence why it is defing all economic law

This is the dumbest wealth "strategy" ever sold. Only Zio-Christian "End of Days" Boomer faggots believe in "waiting for armageddon" to finally cash in big boy style. You live in a 1st world Zio-Anglo nation. ZOG isn't crashing enough for your boomer rocks to send you to the moon.

Congratulations on self-deleting yourself out of the big game; with Rabbi Shawn Hannity's PM storage strategy.

[Anonymous No.50261068]

>>50260400
You answered your own question

[Anonymous No.50261069]

>>50260441
Most commercial grade electronics have components in them that are soldered with silver.

[Anonymous No.50261090]

>>50260794
Gold is used in PCBs but very small amounts. Typically used for traces or landings for surface mount components

[Anonymous No.50261128]

>>50260794
indeed, I'm just curious about the impact of that demand quantitatively. people like OP are confused because they believe precious metals have special monetary properties that price them beyond their productive demand, when as commodities that non-productive demand is the actual price-distorting force. I'd like to know what the estimated "real value" of these metals would be if they were priced solely for their use in art and industry, rather than being legacy financial products

[Anonymous No.50261159]

>>50261030
wealth preservation during a stagflationary cycle in which all other asset prices drop is an entirely rational strategy

[Anonymous No.50261162]

>Risk off environment in recession. Investors models think that inflation will go back to 2% whilst asset prices will drop, USD being a no brainer. Hedge funds sell gold and short gold both as a hedge and for liquidity.
>Both gold and silver markets are manipulated by bullion banks
>USD is king until people actually try to spend it, then they realize their isn't enough goods and services to go around at a low price level.
>Stagflation
>USD is king of the fiat shitcoins. But being king of shit is nothing when compared to gold and silver.
>When the hoi polloi losses confidence in the purchasing power of currency, the spend it faster, increasing velocity which in turn further increases prices as people treat the fiat digits as a hot potato. Price controls will result in massive shortages of everything, civil unrest will follow. What happens if every bank in the US implodes? FDIC will break. Peak oil happened years ago. global trade will break down, hundreds of millions will starve, wars all over africa, the middle east, europe and asia. Civil conflict in the united states.

In the west the goyim have been brainwashed to think gold and silver are barbarous relics instead of being money. However the power center of the world is moving to Asia. In india, china, south east asia. Gold and Silver are still viewed as money. Hence when the west is failing, the new global center will be in population centers where precious metals are viewed as money. It will take hyper inflation and currency collapse and fathers selling their daughters virginity for a gram of silver for the west to realize the true extent of their folly.

[Anonymous No.50261197]

>>50260400
PMs are not mooning because governments, serious institutions and pension funds do not perceive them as money. PMs are like a joke to them currently and they aren't interesting real money into physical.
Imagine a big central bank abusing it's printing power to mercilessly stock up on golf and silver even though their fiat currency is already plunging...

[Anonymous No.50261198]

>>50260800
The big western currencies aren't going to be the first to tank, it's going to be the more disastrously run economies where you'll notice the inflation go critical and an exodus to the USD or gold. For example, Zimbabwe has been struggling to stabilize its currency against inflation (again) and resist exit into USD (again). Their government, funny enough, intends to issue its own gold coinage to stave off a second currency collapse and to bolster the local economy. It's my guess other smaller countries will follow or try the BTC experiment like El Salvador and the Central African Republic as conditions worsen.

As others have pointed out, purchasing power also still rules the day and for all its scarcity, sometimes gold isn't going to be as desirable as bread. For several generations struggling to buy homes, with sky-high demand and listing prices only breaking recently, physical PMs may not shine as brightly if you have to tuck them away somewhere in your mother's basement.

There's a lot against gold and silver right now and like all models, the conventional one of PM prices may not accommodate the nuance of an era. You can either learn what makes this situation different and play ball, or you can continue to try and stuff a complex world into a box of rigid and unprofitable ideology.

[Anonymous No.50261207]

>>50261162
>virginity for gram of silver

A lil optimistic, but I approve

[Anonymous No.50261244]

>>50261159
>wealth preservation during a stagflationary cycle in which all other asset prices drop is an entirely rational strategy

For governments over a period of decades perhaps; not for you. Honestly, some of you neets really should try to humble yourselves. Better use of the 25k OP dropped on silver is shorting the market.

[Anonymous No.50261320]

>>50260449
>>50260750
>>50260812
you're all right but... isn't that precisely where "the west" is heading right now? I don't see any of their measures to counter it working and even if it stays at 7-9% a year that's gonna acoomulate

[Anonymous No.50261331]

>>50260400
they are mooning because cash is crashing

[Anonymous No.50261339]

>>50260441
Supply chain issues, you just answered your own question. Electronics manufacturing has tanked, so the supply that has been taken up by that sector in the past is sitting on the sidelines.

[Anonymous No.50261360]

>>50261030
>you live in a 1st world Zio-Anglo nation
the US as well as the EU are doing all they can to "upgrade" to 3rd asap

[Anonymous No.50261367]

>>50261320
yes, i agree. i am still patiently stacking and taking advantage of this dip. my only advice is not to go crazy and blow all your money on PMs. take it slow

[Anonymous No.50261388]

>>50261367
can't hurt to have some gold when all the central banks are scrambling to get it and it gets explicitly sanctioned out of russia by the west.
Unsure about silver even when I own like 600ozt already

[Anonymous No.50261407]

if you have been paying attention then everything is occurring as it should

>metals shoot up with everything as gov makes money printer go brrrrrrrrrrrr
>everything comes down as fed tightens the money faucet
>metals shoot up after everything else continues to fall

right now the bastards are shifting shit around to make margin calls, there will ben a massive dump in all derivatives markets until folks figure out that hyperinflation is here to stay whether the fed increases rates or not. once that happens, folks will realize there is more money than stuff and then you have a commodities run

we are close to seeing this play out

[Anonymous No.50261425]

>>50260449
this, its about to get way, way worse

[Anonymous No.50261430]

>>50261388
when gold goes up, silver will follow
no doubt about it
i stack both

[Anonymous No.50261442]

>>50260702
premiums on physical are massively high you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.50261476]

>>50260400
I'm gonna say that it's because the price is set mostly by banks passing paper contracts back and forth on computers, not by joe schmoe that's worried about the economy.
I can't say how much this applies today, but banks do have a history of paying serious fines for manipulating the markets for precious metals. So there's always some chance of that. Price of the physical metal is also quite a lot higher than spot right now, at least for silver. Retail demand is insanely high according to every dealer I chat with.

[Anonymous No.50261501]

>>50261198
>big western economies wont tank first
>3rd world countries already at the bottom will tank

you do realize when you are at the bottom you are already there and when you are at the top you have way further to fall

USD is about to get a reissuance; its literally the driest part of a sinking ship

[Anonymous No.50261520]

>>50261244
> put the 25K into the gamble pool instead of saving your money

fucking moron

[Anonymous No.50261543]

You are all delusional. There will never again exist a bank that takes in gold/silver in exchange for notes. ahak8

[Anonymous No.50261625]

>>50260400
>why aren't pms mooning when the fiat I want to cash out on is going up in value
dunno lol

[Anonymous No.50261637]

>>50261543
Yeah. 5000 years of human history....this time it's different!

[Anonymous No.50261639]

>>50261543
>a bank wont take your silver or gold

good, keep my money out of their filthy fucking hands

[Anonymous No.50261659]

>>50261625
Only the dollar is getting stronger
The euro is a joke and the yen is literally in a death spiral.
Yet PMs down relative to those currencies too. Makes no sense. Clearly jews jewing

[Anonymous No.50261675]

>>50261520
>too stupid / lazy to figure out daily trading strategies
>never shorted a stock, the math/concept is confusing
>poor fag believes 25k is "savings"
>buy rock
>sit on ass for 20 years
>sell rock
>look mom! I beat the system

Enjoy those premiums, poorfag Hannity fan. Keep us updated on armageddon's timeline. He believes the J's will never confiscate his coin collection if they ever do lose total control. Why are poorfags so egotistical and delusional about their position in the world?

Nobody gives a fuck about your ar-15 and coin collection, faggot. Get over yourself. You will never have the last laugh. Your wealth strategy is controlled oposition.

[Anonymous No.50261696]

>>50261675
not takin part in your kike games
fuck off

[Anonymous No.50261725]

>>50261675
any PMG fag will tell you that metals are about diversification, you buy 10-15% of your take home with it and never go all in on one thing.

and why the fuck would you want to short in this market? sure things are going down but you are attempting to catch a falling knife. plus what would be shorting anyway? SLV? crypto? stonks? you are talking out of your ass like a little bitch who doesnt know shit about investing

[Anonymous No.50261759]

Most debt is denominated in US dollars. That is why.

[Anonymous No.50261838]

>>50261759
damn, big brain answer here actually

if we reissue currency that is probably what it will be backed by, debt. either that or they will tie it to shipping/freight costs; basically stuff that can be measured but not fucked with by the every day jackass

[Anonymous No.50261853]

>>50260501
> demand is not growing
So long as there are ETFs and shorts placed on PMs demand is fake and gay.

[Anonymous No.50261859]

>>50261696
>is a metal collector
>"not takin part in your kike games"
>J's named themselves the Goldsmith's/Silverstein's back in the middle ages.

Sir, your level of retardation is entirely unsalvagable. The "get 'em back" attitude you hold was sold to you have a Jew, under the guise of Christian fundamentalism. In short... you have been played.

>I'll beat the J's after I buy their J-Rock and check out of their J-System"

HAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.50261879]

[Anonymous No.50261891]

>>50261879
Sorry for the black pill shiny fags.

[Anonymous No.50261896]

>>50260812
not sure under control is the right term

[Anonymous No.50262064]

>>50261879
>>50261891
That's not hard to figure out. U.S. mint charges more for physical than any of the private suppliers.

[Anonymous No.50262086]

>>50260466
Cool, but price failing to track inflation makes miners shut down production due to making no money, see axu and while it's not a perfect example due to high production costs of the site they will be one of many. These rocks are used in EVs, solar panels and cruise missiles; things the west are deeming important right now amongst other products. Derivatives markets make it seem as if there are endless stockpiles, comex continues to drain and banks are taking back what's theirs. This can only continue for so long.

[Anonymous No.50262162]

>>50261859
>Butthurt fag that can't afford gold and has never held it

[Anonymous No.50262207]

>>50260400
if im not buying crypto because commodity inflation. why would i buy metals lol. at the end of the day, metals are great but they're even worth less than digital currency being held in a cold wallet.

[Anonymous No.50262246]

>>50262064
>That's not hard to figure out. U.S. mint charges more for physical than any of the private suppliers.

Have you ever stopped and noticed the J's along with their boomer cohort hold an unlimited supply of bullshit that they pull out of their ass in order to explain away why the end times J prophesy named Armageddon hasn't arrived on time as previously schedule a thousand times in the past.

The eternal boomer cohort will never understand, let alone learn. The eternal boomer cohort isn't feeling the vibe or tone of your approach. Boomerology requires tickling of the ear, butt, and ballsack for a boomer's loyalty and happiness to be secured.

These are the dumbest people ever born. Boomers hold the minds of children who believe they are "rebelling" against culture, finance, society, and power structures! yet the complete opposite is the truth.

Silver / Gold bergs have an excuse and answer for why their Jewish Messiah hasn't returned the profits as promised. The answer is highly technical of course!

[Anonymous No.50262277]

>>50261501
>literally the driest part of a sinking ship
>literally

[Anonymous No.50262294]

>>50262246
>hurf durf buying gold and silver is JEWISH
keep posting it over and over and maybe someone will believe it

[Anonymous No.50262414]

>>50262294
>hurf durf buying gold and silver is JEWISH
Let's pretend gold and silver is not a Jewish racket played before your retarded faggot ass was born.
>Hurrrrr durrrrr, the Jews don't know about my silver secret
>I'm so smart
>The J's never suspected the rocks inside the ground!
>Thank you Glenn Beck Talk Radio Show
>Thank you EIB Network and Rush Limbaugh

Precious metals were a Jewish racket centuries before Wallstreet ever existed. You retarded faggot

[Anonymous No.50262445]

>>50260400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBCr6S8F8Tc

[Anonymous No.50262482]

>Jews horde silver for themselves (JP morgon has the largest physical silver stash on the planet)
>Jews suppress the price of gold and silver to create negative sentiment against precious metals
>Jews subvert the economics discipline to make most economists coming out of universities fucking retarded idiots who cheerlead the slave system.
>Jews, whilst fudding Gold and Silver accumulate it for themselves. They know that in the world to come Gold and Silver will be money, not US dollars.
For the jews the US is just a golden lamb to be sucked dry of all its value and then disposed of.
>inb4 muh asteroid mining and muh infinite human progress
Sorry bucko, this cycle of human civilization is destined to end in decay and war. We burnt through our global civilizations reserves of oil in just under one hundred years. Now we are fucked.

[Anonymous No.50262521]

>>50260400
Keep coping pm fags. Biggest opportunity cost of a lifetime hahaha

[Anonymous No.50262569]

>>50262482
>"They know that in the world to come"

Ohhh sounds so mysterious and prophet-like. Do us a favor hippie boomer life-long recovering 60's dope addict. Rope yourself. The Christian-Light cultural and mythical drama spewed out of your face is 100% kosher in origin. All you are is a Jewish child born out of wedlock fighting against the Rabbi for control of the system.

Your strategy is a joke. Your perspective is comedy. Your wisdom is equivalent to typically goy cattle within the Anglosphere. You fight nothing. You win nothing. You know nothing.

[Anonymous No.50262602]

>>50260400
>Can be confiscated by big daddy government
>Heavy and impractical to use as a means of currency, will always need fiat claims to function which leads to the same mess we are in now.
>Some African shithole just doubled the worlds supply which points to a high chance of Africa being filled with untapped PMs aka massive inflation.

[Anonymous No.50262781]

>>50260400
nobody cares about some fucking rock
PMs are great money, but they're terrible to circumvent FIAT in a parallel economy
there is no parallel economy where you have PM backed money
closest thing you can do is actually use paxos gold on rari

[Anonymous No.50262790]

>>50260400
silver will dump in an economic boom and it will dump in a recession. get used to it goyim.

[Anonymous No.50262839]

>>50260400
>In the great depression money was backed by gold
>When shit got bad those who had gold won
Now money is backed by debt. When shit gets bad those with debt win.

>I totally just made that up and have no idea what i'm talking about.

[Anonymous No.50262895]

>>50261859
>cant argue for shit so has to put words in people's mouths

[Anonymous No.50262919]

>>50260465
Retail isnt that large lol.

[Anonymous No.50262936]

>>50262569
honestly, why are you so mad

[Anonymous No.50262954]

>>50261891
That's not a black pill at all US Mint is trash and in an ideal world would be allowed to fail. It won't be ofc

[Anonymous No.50263010]

>>50262936
Why are you so sensitive? I'm enjoying the weekend.

[Anonymous No.50263129]

>>50260530
At least we can spot the inaccuracies on bitcoins public ledger, while pm chads have to deal with a ledger that is skewed by the very same people who are driving it down.

[Anonymous No.50263191]

>>50260400
It makes perfect economic sense. The supply inflation of silver at least is pretty big and it's mostly an industrial metal, rather than an investment. If its value goes up, producers can afford to increase producing, bringing the price down.
There have been previous attempted "silver squeezes" before, which only resulted in producers getting rich, while a bunch of investors bagheld.

[Anonymous No.50263205]

>>50263191
>There have been previous attempted "silver squeezes" before
oh really? name one

[Anonymous No.50263242]

>>50263205
Hunt brothers hoarding silver, thinking it would become a store of value again

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/optioninvestor/09/silver-thursday-hunt-brothers.asp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Thursday

[Anonymous No.50263361]

>>50260441
If you're i.plying Gold and Silver aren't driven by industrial demand I won't argue that, but Copper and Tin certainly are and they're performing poorly despite a serious supply shortage that has no signs of letting up. The price of those metals do not reflect their utility and relative scarcity; they're hardly worth pulling out of the ground yet the entire world is slowing down because of the supply squeeze. OP is right, it doesn't make sense. The commodity price is being driven by the derivatives. The derivative, the thing that should be derived from something else is now the thing controlling the actual physical asset.

[Anonymous No.50263421]

>>50260466
This. Silver is pulled out of the ground at a rate of 15% a year. PM's are one of the most manipulated things you can trade. The price is probably severely detached from reality. If you want returns it's a shit investment, which keeps demand relatively inelastic.

[Anonymous No.50263452]

jews. is everyone retarded?

[Anonymous No.50263662]

>>50261879
The US mint charges $60 an ounce for silver coins and puts ugly darkies on their coins

[Anonymous No.50263742]

>>50263662
Just look at this
>$1000 over spot
Gee why is no one buying from the US mint, I can't imagine

[Anonymous No.50263836]

Op, are you living under a rock? The fed won't let the prices of PM's surge or everyone will flee their fiat ponzi scheme and rush to real money like gold and silver. It is heavily manipulated, they sell fake paper derivatives instead of the real thing and never let the buyers obtain delivery of their purchase. The spot market is small enough that the price action there isn't enough to cause massive price fluctuations nor outpace the suppression of paper gold/silver. By the way this has been going on for decades and yes.. it's illegal. Laws for you, not for them.

[Anonymous No.50264878]

One would think that more people would wise up to what precious metals truly represents when one sees nation after nation have their rigged paper currency fail, but no.. it doesn't seem like it.. what has happened instead is that the price has gone down when money printing is at an all time high while other commodities have gone through the roof. Yes it does not make any sense and anyone who at this point does not consider putting at least a small percentage of their portfolio into precious metals is not seeing clearly.

[Anonymous No.50264896]

>>50260400
Jp Morgan was literally just fined a billion dollars for manipulating the market. I don’t think there was a clause that they had to stop

[Anonymous No.50265199]

>>50261336
>Any Osmium bros that actually has Osmium in this thread? A bit out of my price range at the moment but am interested
>vid related
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eq7R7SRqr8 [Embed]

I have been looking into Osmium and definitely want to buy some. Apart from the special properties and rarity, I really like how it looks like Platinum but with a nice blue tinge. I saw somewhere that they were only able to turn it into a metal in 2014. I was having trouble figuring out the actual price and whether the beads and stuff on eBay were legit because this article said they could make it via crystal forming. I will look more into it, the article might have been baloney, I will watch the video you posted.

[Anonymous No.50265259]

>>50260401
> If you're paying nearly $30 for silver right now, that's on you.
>If you want to buy rhenium or whatever, that's great, but this is just obvious shilling.

In the UK it is $31.61 per ounce for basic Silver Britannias due to VAT and of course the usual premium on coins.

Obvious shilling, In comparison to the usual posts in this thread are they much different? I just have different precious metals tastes than the average redditor might.

[Anonymous No.50265265]

wrong thread oops