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[Anonymous No.50255474]

>inflation bad
>deflation bad
I don't have a fucking clue what the natural order of things should be reeeeeee

[Anonymous No.50255526]

>inb4 atheists say the particles bounced off of the observer's eyes or something

The double slit experiment is proof souls exist and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

[Anonymous No.50255530]

the agreed upon meta is smol inflation so companies can pretend they are growing

[Anonymous No.50255547]

>>50255526
I tried this once with a piece of paper i cut 2 slits in it and shine the lamp through it but nothign happened on the wall

what did I do wrong

[Anonymous No.50255581]

>>50255547
You probably forgot to activate your photons

[Anonymous No.50255597]

>>50255526
That doesn’t make any sense you mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.50255600]

>>50255581
is there like a minimum distance or dimensions or scaled required?

[Anonymous No.50255611]

>>50255597
its true though

either its soul, or simulation

[Anonymous No.50255617]

>>50255474
Inflation is not bad it’s built into the system to encourage people to spend their money and keep the economy going. Too much inflation or too much the other way is bad, a few % is normal.

[Anonymous No.50255626]

>>50255600
Nah just remember to use unbleached paper, the photons don't like bleach

[Anonymous No.50255631]

>>50255600
not without a turbo encabulator no

[Anonymous No.50255638]

>>50255611
You’ll have to support that with some kind if argument I’m afraid.

[Anonymous No.50255641]

>>50255626
>>50255631

HAHAHHAHHAHAA

not funny

[Anonymous No.50255649]

>>50255638
Explain to me how we could affect particles by observing them if our consciousness is supposedly trapped inside of our skulls--according to materialists?

[Anonymous No.50255659]

>>50255641
it was funny

and

now

go the fuck

back

[Anonymous No.50255665]

>>50255649
these people are too braindead to even grasp their own reality

honestly dont try this with them

[Anonymous No.50255669]

youre getting dabbed on either way, because you actually believe in such terms and believe it always was as it is. You are essentially a powerless nigger

[Anonymous No.50255682]

>>50255649
You are a magnetic sphere.

[Anonymous No.50255701]

>>50255597
>>50255638
Or you actually try to think about what he said. He is implying that, since the mere act of observation by a person changed the outcome of the experiment, the soul (or something similar) interferes with the particles causing the anomaly. Alternatively, he suggests we're living in a simulation that doesn't stay consistent when you are observing its inner workings.

[Anonymous No.50255719]

>>50255547
You cant do pic related experiment easily at home. That would require you do have a way of sending individual photons/electrons at a time and also a detector.
At home you can just compare one slit to two slit interferences, but even that would be better with homogenous light = laser.

[Anonymous No.50255743]

>>50255665
Nah I want people to challenge my worldview. So far no one has been able to convince me I am wrong about this matter though. (I guess matter is a poor choice of words ha-ha)

>>50255682
Wouldn't we be able to measure it if that were true? I mean maybe we already have, I don't feel like looking it up.

[Anonymous No.50255845]

>>50255701
>doesn't stay consistent when you are observing its inner workings
why?

[Anonymous No.50255914]

>>50255474
Deflation is the natural state of things. It's great for the people, especially workers as the money they earn grows in value and everything gets cheaper. It's terrible for governments and corporations, as borrowing would be more difficult.

[Anonymous No.50255916]

>>50255845
Even our own simulations have weird shit built in that sometimes behaves wonky when a player looks at it. Probably because of taking shortcuts? Saving processing power? I'm not sure.

[Anonymous No.50255947]

ITT a bunch of people talking about the Which way double slit experiment without even slightly understanding the setup of it

[Anonymous No.50256041]

>>50255947
>nobody can understand this shit only me lol me so smart

[Anonymous No.50256050]

>>50255682
Fucking magnets, how do they work?

[Anonymous No.50256562]

>>50255701
But if he knew anything about the subject matter he would know that the observation by an actual human is irrelevant observation simply means that some record is made upon the universe otherwise you essentially believe that nothing happens unless a person sees it happen and there’s like almost the entire history of the universe that disagrees with that.

[Anonymous No.50257380]

>>50256562
> and there’s like almost the entire history of the universe that disagrees with that.

The universe was being observed by God.

[Anonymous No.50257921]

High levels of both are bad but deflation is overblown. Will Stacy and Becky stop buying the new iPhone, Starbucks, panera bread, target, etc...if we have 2% deflation?NO! But the financial big wigs try to tell you that they would.
>>50255526
Atheists are like the GME schizos. Atheists peddled to just believe nothing randomly exploded. NO WAIT! Just believe all matter always existed but compressed into a single point causing an explosion randomly. NO WAIT! The universe explodes and implodes repeatedly. NO WAIT! We're actually in a hologram.

[Anonymous No.50257939]

>>50257380
LEL

[Anonymous No.50257984]

>>50255649
Do you know we can influence the outcomes in a random number generator simply by thinking about it?

[Anonymous No.50257987]

>>50255617
Inflation is controlled with interest rates. When interest rates are dropped, it ALWAYS inevitably leads to the situation where interest rates must be raised to stop inflation. It can be controlled for some time, but eventually it every time either causes the currency to fail or the market to crash due to hyperinflation. Interest rates and inflation should not be controlled by anyone, but set by the market.

[Anonymous No.50258480]

>>50255649
>you can't explain this phenomenon therefore gawd

[Anonymous No.50258567]

>>50255617
>Inflation is not bad it’s built into the system to encourage people to spend their money and keep the economy going
I hate faggots who conflate money with value. You make the world a horrible place.

[Anonymous No.50258915]

>>50255547
imagine being dumber than a 10yo curry boi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsMtoWDy8rQ

[Anonymous No.50258960]

>>50255914
Yet they keep pushing inflation bullshit on us while claiming deflation is bad. Those fuckers are going to force hyperinflation on us.
Weimar problems demand Weimar Solutions.

[Anonymous No.50258975]

>>50255719
You don't have to send individual photons, the experiment works the same regardless.

[Anonymous No.50259034]

>>50257984
>>50257984
>>50257984

Reminder: These are the people giving you financial advice

[Anonymous No.50259088]

>>50258975
If you just send light through 2 slits you just get an interference pattern. Which is interesting in itself, yes.
If you send individual particles out you also get an interference pattern over time. Also interesting, yes.
But if you send individual particles out and somehow detect right at the slits, which slit it went through, you dont get an interference pattern on the screen behind. Even over a long time. This is the mindfuck that pic related is implying.
This last experiment is difficult af to replicate at home afaik.

[Anonymous No.50259307]

>>50259088
please forgive me if you are young if you are not then...


CHRIST you fucking RETARDS

OH LIKE ITS ONE WAY RIGHT AND THEN WHEN WE DO SHIT TO IT LIKE TRY AND MONITOR IT - EVERYTHING FUCKS UP

err IT MUST BE MAGIC

Not like because Im fucking shit up with my sensing protocols and equipment

Fucking HELL you fucks LEARN TO REALIZE when something smells like bullshit it is.

christ

sorry i need to go to bed

[Anonymous No.50259423]

>>50259307
But you literally ARE fucking a thing up with a detector. No one is denying that. You are collapsing the wave function at the slit.
Implications of that are not agreed upon by physicists tho.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretations_of_quantum_mechanics

[Anonymous No.50259439]

>>50255547
Need to use a laser

[Anonymous No.50259451]

>>50256050
why do i see a basedjack when i look at this image

[Anonymous No.50259958]

>>50259307
>NOOOOO YOU CANT USE THE VON NEUMANN INTERPRETATION OF QUANTUM MECHANICS NOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN MATERIALISMERINOES

[Anonymous No.50260077]

>>50256562
>otherwise you essentially believe that nothing happens unless a person sees it happen
what the fuck are you talking about? That's not what they were saying at all.

[Anonymous No.50260082]

>>50255638
The experiment literally proves it you fucking mongoloid. In a natural order of things photons would not react to a mere presence of observation. That is like some invisible force shit.

[Anonymous No.50260319]

>>50260082
You're a moron who never did a lick of research. Literally looking at it is not what changes the outcome. When they say observe they are referring to the process of using equipment to measure it. The act of bouncing electrons off of photons collapses the wave function. You physically looking at it with your retard monke brain does nothing to the result. Holy fucking shit

[Anonymous No.50260343]

>>50257921
>NO WAIT! A magical sky daddy that existed because (???) randomly decided to create a rock and human beings and satan because (???) and this is true because a jewish book written by some prehistoric schizo said so.

[Anonymous No.50260396]

>>50257921
>Atheists peddled to just believe nothing randomly exploded
So what created god or whatever and why can't the same argument be used for a universe always existing on its own?

[Anonymous No.50260428]

>>50257921
Imagine struggling this hard with the big bang theory.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang
Retard.

[Anonymous No.50260486]

>>50255474
Inflation is bad. It's always bad.
Only keynesian faggots, aka 99% of economists, think inflation is something that, when intentionally unleashed, can be controlled. They think government intervention and central planning can "smooth out the bumps" in the economy, but what they fail to realize is that smoothing out the bumps only causes bigger ones in the future. You can't see the future and you can't control chaos.

[Anonymous No.50260580]

>>50260486
Without inflation how do you propose to stop rich people from hoarding cash instead of using it?

[Anonymous No.50260606]

>>50255474
Ampleforth baby

[Anonymous No.50260611]

>>50255845
The idea is that things would be rendered in a less resource-intensive way when not immediately relevant/observed, as optimisation. All our programs work like this, and it can result in things being calculated differently depending on whether they are onscreen or not. I find this quite convincing to be honest, a lot of physical phenomena make a lot of sense if interpreted as computer behaviour.

[Anonymous No.50260655]

Inflation is Jewish theft and deflation is the default state of society, nature and Man. As productivity increase, goods and services become more plentiful, thus more easily to acquire.

What most people don't realise is that the American central bank struggles to create inflation. They NEED 2% inflation and the FED can barely achieve it despite doing quantative easing for over a decade. QE doesn't create new circulating money at a sufficient rate.

[Anonymous No.50260685]

>>50260611
speed of light = maximum screen refresh rate for the universe

[Anonymous No.50260698]

>>50260685
Yeah, something like that. It also results in "screen tearing" from a theoretical neutral viewpoint.

[Anonymous No.50261070]

>>50255474
its a balance that you want. you dont want a lot of inflation or deflation in a quick amount of time too.

[Anonymous No.50261217]

>>50260611
>>50260698
None of what you said is true. See
>>50260319


There are no "optimizations" where you are not looking. Time being relative means there is NO neutral viewpoint. All viewpoints are relative and all time is relative. You being too retarded to understand this and enjoy the fruits of countless humans mathematical labor on this topic is just pathetic and disgusting.

[Anonymous No.50261241]

>>50260396
pantheism.

[Anonymous No.50261265]

>>50260685
Maximum rate information can travel between cells/layers

[Anonymous No.50261266]

>>50255474
We should be living in the wilderness working as a team to hunt animals while the women care for the children and forage for edible plants and fruits. We were never supposed to plant things in the ground and wait for them to grow

[Anonymous No.50261305]

>>50261217
Your seething assault isn't likely to win you much favour. For whatever reason that you may be so emotionally invested in your beliefs, you should tread carefully since they are very likely to be reevaluated as time passes. You are not justified in making authoritative cosmological statements at this time, much less attempting to denigrate others for speculating on the subject.

[Anonymous No.50261325]

>>50261305
I'm not posting my beliefs I'm posting facts. Kill yourself

[Anonymous No.50261340]

>>50261325
18+ website

[Anonymous No.50261369]

>>50257921
the hologram universe theory is based and redpilled but everything else you said is on point

[Anonymous No.50261390]

>>50261241
holy based
>>50260319
>>50261217
>But if they try to find out by setting up detectors in front of each slit to determine which slit the photon really goes through, the interference pattern doesn't show up at all. This is true even if they try setting up the detectors behind the slits. No matter what the scientists do, if they try anything to observe the photons, the interference pattern fails to emerge.
>This is true even if they try setting up the detectors behind the slits
Don't you think what that your critique would literally be the first fucking thing they thought of? Science doesn't work like your high school class. They do the experiment in as many different ways as possible trying to prove themselves wrong.
As soon as the universe/nature/god makes a record of any probabilistic quantum effect it is collapsed into a particle reality.
It really is as weird as all the schizos say.

[Anonymous No.50261420]

Reminder that "science" is a Jewish psyop designed to turn people into nonbelievers so that the damn yids can have more heaven for themselves.

[Anonymous No.50261424]

>>50255474
Inflation and deflation are two different actors. They're supposed to show up in different scenes, neither are good or bad on their own, but if they show up when they're not supposed to.

[Anonymous No.50261452]

>>50261266
>We were never supposed to plant things in the ground and wait for them to grow
Completely wrong. The goal of every entity/organism regardless of scale is to amass energy and grow. We were always meant to harvest the stars. You're just a troglodyte.

[Anonymous No.50261478]

>>50261452
> Completely wrong. The goal of every entity/organism regardless of scale is to amass energy and grow.
people on diets or trying to save money btfo by logic and science

[Anonymous No.50261523]

>>50255474
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>>50261390
Behold: https://youtu.be/iWS96AUajvg

[Anonymous No.50261593]

>>50261478
Time and Money are resources. People go on diets to buy more time for themselves, people save money are literally amassing labor credits.

You should have said suicide.

[j !!/1H76ettcbD No.50261598]

DMT machine elves told me that electrons actually shoot of your soul and make reality manifest in front of you. All creatures with a brain have a soul. If a tree falls in a forest and there is no creature with a brain around, well, that's actually not possible. It's a Schrodinger's cat situation where the tree will either be standing or fallen the next time a living thing with a brain observes that area of the forest.

[Anonymous No.50261636]

>>50261523
watching a movie now, can you summarize?

[Anonymous No.50261653]

>>50261593
lol why would you argue against yourself

[j !!/1H76ettcbD No.50261658]

>>50261598
In other words, the electrons seen in observed atoms actually originate from living beings. While coming back to earth from a DMT trip, I saw my entire house being reconstructed as the electrons from my soul shot out to orbit the atoms that made up the foundation/walls/roof of my house.

[Anonymous No.50261669]

>>50255526
you are retarded and don't really understand physics. I don't think you even understand the double slit experiment, OP pic is not accurate. What actually causes the collapse of the superposition is bouncing particles off of the photon(s) / slit particles to detect their location... not looking at it

[Anonymous No.50261703]

>>50261669
Retard you don't understand the experiment at all lmao
SHOOTING PARTICLES ONE AT A TIME STILL CREATES THE WAVE EFFECT, WITHOUT AN OBSERVER. NO "CAMERA SHOOTING PHOTOS CAUSING INTERFERENCE"
You can literally shoot them 1 at a time, taking an hour break between, and you come back after x many and you will see the wave effect instead of 2 slit patterns.
Even disregarding the science 101 observer cope, the experiment is still a mind fuck.

[Anonymous No.50261909]

>>50261636
>all electromagnetic energy is the same thing, differentiated by frequency and capacitance
>so light really is just akin to a sound wave that moves the air around(really the ether)
>”waves” are not a thing, they are what something does
>the wave pattern is always secondary to something else, such as someone throwing a rock into water causing the water to ripple in a wave pattern
>the speed of sound really is just the rate of induction of the medium (air, temperature, other physical objects that the medium attempts to pass through)
>since light is the same thing as any other EMR category it behaves in exactly the same way
>the double slit experiment has the light from the original source, which could be called an “emitter” (it is not emitting light, it is emitting energy with visible illumination as the secondary byproduct, just as you can’t say that someone flapping their arms in the water is emitting water just because the water is moving in a wave pattern
>once the energy carrying the illumination as a byproduct crosses the two slits, they create interference with each other because beyond the slits they are both the “original” source
>for the interference itself, the two slits create constructive and destructive interference at the same time
also subatomic particles other than the atom aren’t real either and everyone that believes in quantum mechanics is basically retarded

[Anonymous No.50261981]

>>50260580
Rich people hoard even harder during inflation. Stop trying to control everything.

[Anonymous No.50262029]

>>50255474

this is a fun thread, let's try and be nice tho guys. Keep it civil.

[Anonymous No.50262062]

>>50261909
Ok if waves are a physical extension of some entity and changes its form, like a water is flat but if it's rough water then it has extensions from a calmer state in the form of waves. Then we ignore what waves are entirely, so what is light, if it is energy what is it?

[Anonymous No.50262074]

>>50261909
>ether

[Anonymous No.50262100]

>>50261909
>because beyond the slits they are both the “original” source
huh?
>for the interference itself, the two slits create constructive and destructive interference at the same time
Particle collapse occurs no matter where you put the camera, where you point it, or how long of a runway you give the experiment.
Collapse occurs as soon as the universe creates a record of it. Quantum eraser experiment also proves these critiques wrong.

[Anonymous No.50262105]

>>50261452
It hurts doesn't it? We were never meant to be conscious either. That only happened because a group of monkeys ate the wrong mushrooms. Our entire species and way of life is just a mistake

[Anonymous No.50262107]

>>50261325
That sounded rather childish.

[Anonymous No.50262258]

They're just trying to make the exponential money supply curve be less exponential.
Simple

[Anonymous No.50262280]

>>50262062
what you see is ILLUMINATION, not light
nobody has ever actually seen light
as i already mentioned a few times, the sound that we hear is the wave pattern of air being disturbed by our voicebox, a guitar string, a plane taking off, whatever
since all electromagnetic radiation is the same thing, visible light is the same disturbance of the medium, with our eyeballs obviously being the sense that we use to detect it instead of our ears with sound. the "speed" of both light and sound are not speeds since nothing is actually moving from the light or sound as a cause, it is just a rate of induction of the medium
the actual energy from something that emits light is always a coaxial circuit, i.e manifestation of an electric/magnetic field (like the sun or a lightbulb)
turn off a lightbulb in your room, then turn it back on again. attempt to imagine the lightbulb as still off with the illumination still coming from it. then you will begin tor eally see
>>50262074
yes
please explain why the speed of light slows down when passing through objects such as glass, and does not penetrate through denser objects with a simpler quantum explanation than rate of induction
>>50262100
photons aren't real

[Anonymous No.50262507]

>>50262280
Retard here. So when they say that the light takes 8m to travel from the sun to the earth is false. So then rather than creating light the sun is just causing/creating a disturbance at a specific frequency and capacity of "something" that was already there to "push" what we know as "light" from the sun to the earth like when the fat ass in the video says waves when you clap in the water so then rather than being creating the light the sun it just "tuning" the "ether", like a radio station, to tunn in light?
I don't know
Also how do i profit from all dis?
>>50261909

[Anonymous No.50262545]

>>50255474
Inflation is not bad. They should inflate the debt away and bring back industry. A lot of niggers etc will have to get used to living like the fucking monkey animal they are due to higher prices but that's also good

[Anonymous No.50262557]

>>50255474
High inflation very bad
Inflation bad
Stable prices good
Decreasing prices better

I've never heard someone complain about prices being too low. The claims of falling prices, or even "too low inflation" being bad are retards or people shilling for the best interest of big money and government.

[Anonymous No.50262629]

>>50262507
yes
space is still a medium
the "space" itself is more akin to a shadow than actually being a thing in itself, but what we call space contains a thin layer of base elements like hydrogen and helium. so that is the medium that illumination will disturb so that we can see it. the light itself is the electrical field created by the sun, it is not moving, therefore it is not a speed
>Also how do i profit from all dis?
you will be more logical and less prone to fall for bullshit, you won't spend any money on an esoteric physics degree if you're capable of that

[Anonymous No.50262653]

>>50256562
Time is a flat circle you fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.50262686]

Ok but who was phone?

[Anonymous No.50262689]

>>50262280
half of what you said it's easy to come to terms with me as I'm imagining all waves are caused by a force that makes them shake into become a wave. you brought up radiation, is that not what light is then?

[Anonymous No.50262748]

>>50262689
you're still making it way more complicated than it needs to be
the wave is not a thing, its what something else does
the tectonic plates make the WATER in the ocean move, the water moves in a wave pattern
you pluck a guitar string and the string makes the AIR move in a wave pattern
radiation has the connotation of killing you or causing cancer like gamma ray, but yeah it is also light. the energy in gamma radiation (and anything at xray level or beyond) is enough to damage your dna because the high capacitance of energy moving through your body is enough to destroy information on your dna strands

[Anonymous No.50262791]

>>50262748
Yea I can see how I was over complicating it but wtf is the light, is it just everywhere at all times?

[Anonymous No.50262843]

>>50262791
from the sun sure…past a certain level of induction there can’t be any more illumination, which is why light doesn’t pass through very dense solid objects
otherwise you just turn off the lightbulb or whatever to kill the electrical circuit, no more illumination

[Anonymous No.50262855]

>>50262629
>the light itself is the electrical field created by the sun, it is not moving, therefore it is not a speed
Then how it (light) reaches us? What do they mean when they say that the light takes 8 minutes to reach the earth.
>what we call space contains a thin layer of base elements like hydrogen and helium. so that is the medium that illumination will disturb so that we can see it. the light itself is the electrical field created by the sun, it is not moving, therefore it is not a speed
If this is so then creating a fully functional artificial sun doesn't seems far fetch apart from the technology that it would require. Maybe when can destroy the sun before it expands absorbing the earth and put an artificial one, supposing such thing is ever going to happen and the sun actually does that thing in 4billion yrs from now.

All this makes me think of the force from star wars and how they described it.
>soiredditface.jpg

>you won't spend any money on an esoteric physics degree if you're capable of that
Quantum physics always seemed to me like: "neither Yes nor No just the opposite but at the same time maybe" they are just jerking off mentally

[Anonymous No.50262893]

>>50262855
>Maybe when can destroy
We*

[Anonymous No.50262926]

>>50262855
> Then how it (light) reaches us? What do they mean when they say that the light takes 8 minutes to reach the earth
already explained. light and illumination aren’t the same thing
> If this is so then creating a fully functional artificial sun doesn't seems far fetch apart from the technology that it would require
wat
>Captcha:why2t

[Anonymous No.50262970]

This whole thread explains why the price dumps after i buy or pumps after i sell the bottom; while i am not observing my bags the universe and the fabrication of reality work in mysterious ways to make me a pink wojak, as intended.