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>Bitcoin is a store of value
>Gold is a store of value
>Silver is a store of value
False. The only store of value is land, or a company that produces goods and services.

>> No.50136464

>>50136435
land is useless unless it is in an exploitable gradient
so some land under some condition with some use can have positive value for the exploiter

>> No.50136471

>>50136435
>value is something traded for human effort and knowledge
you store what the people want, and if you store too much of it, they get wise to your jewish bullshit and then inflation happens.

>> No.50136521

>>50136464
Precisely. Only land like farm land, dock space, or mineral rights has inherent value. Some land has value derived from the infrastructure and institutions surrounding it.

>> No.50136524

>>50136435
blows my mind when people take advice from people who grew up in an entirely different world with an entirely different set of rules and expectations, doubly so if it's a corrupt boomer billionaire who made his money through insider knowledge and political bribes/corruption. these people have nothing to offer the world. they aren't acting in good faith when they give you advice. driven by their unbreakable compulsion to scam and steal, they're just looking for another victim. they shouldn't be entertained, they should be viciously beaten to death by a negroe orderly in a state run nursing facility.

>> No.50136534

>>50136435

>Land that never really belongs to you

>> No.50136538

>>50136524

He is one of the best investors of all time. If people listened to him they would do much better than they are currently doing.

>> No.50136540

>>50136521
so land on itself is not store of value
it is opportunity to exploit gradient

store of value is something usable that is potable and divisible and fungible

fiat is debt
crypto is energy

>> No.50136573
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50136573

>he has to pay tax on the land he 'owns'

>> No.50136641

>>50136540
>crypto is energy
Crypto is not energy, it's proof that energy was consumed in the past. You can't run your car on the blockchain.
>>50136534
>>50136540
>>50136573
Yeah, I should have stated companies first. Land is typically the inferior investment, with exceptions due to development of nearby industry or government subsidies (cheating).
>>50136524
The same principles still apply today. Finance in the long term is value-driven, it has been for Sumerian bean counters, for Dutch shipping companies, for commodities exploiters in the new world, the tech companies of the information age, and it will be for the asteroid mining era as well.

>> No.50136733

>>50136524
>muh all rich people are corrupt because they can't just be better than me

>> No.50136771

>>50136435
I'd rather store barrels of oil in my basement.

>> No.50136772

>>50136641
>You can't run your car on the blockchain.
Fucking casual

>> No.50136809

>>50136771
Not a terrible idea considering crude oil can produce everything necessary to survive
>Water
>Shelter
>Food
>Clothing
>Energy

>> No.50136828

>>50136733
>muh just world hypotheses
CHEEEERIST IS KANGGGGGGGGG

>> No.50136843

>>50136435
he has spent his entire life honing bullshit detection skills
and he is mostly right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jv7sLrON7QY

>> No.50136849

>>50136828
Obviously it's not true in all cases, but don't be surprised if wealthy people are on average smarter/more patient/better at saving than poorfags.

>> No.50136863

>>50136641
You don't get it, you're a land renter not a land owner. you CAN own a business or precious metals though, just not land (technically you can own land but the money required to do so is forget-about-it-tier.

>> No.50136937

>>50136863
Are you talking about the government taxing property? Or are you talking about renting land for agribusiness? There are things like REITS specializing in farming, through which you can own productive land. My point in the OP is that only equity and productive land can produce goods.

>> No.50137116

>>50136937
I thought you were saying to buy(rent) land and sit on it like you would stocks or similar.
If you meant renting land for the purpose of putting a business that produces essential goods on it then yes I'm in agreement, it's an excellent method of wealth preservation if you don't cut corners.

>> No.50137146

>>50136435
All that shimmers in this world is sure to fade away, again.

>> No.50137172

>>50137116
I mean buying land for the purpose of renting it to businesses or putting your own business on it. In any case, investing in businesses themselves is usually more efficient, but owning the land can be lower risk.

>> No.50137474
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GUNS
AMMO

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50138233

>>50137474
This guy gets it

>> No.50139823

>>50136435
Enjoy your property tax, maintenance expense, political dependency and counterparty risk.

>> No.50139868

>>50136435
Real estate is a decent option so is Bitcoin buy stocks are a horrible option
Zoom out dumbfucks

>> No.50139882
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50139882

(((They))) can't allow any real store of value to exist

>> No.50139940

>>50139882
so what do we do?

food water shelter guns ammo seems like the play then

>> No.50140249

>>50136534
Uhh, landcel bros..? Every country has annual ren- I mean property taxes right?!?

>> No.50140817

>>50136435
OP when a bunch of fuckign communists show up, kill your dog and demand you produce from them from now on, enjoy walking your ass to the border with absolutely nothing and becoming a fucking worthless immigrant in foreign lands that everybody hates.

>> No.50142269

>>50140817
Nice fantasy, schizo.

>> No.50142441

>>50136435
You can't throw land in a truck and transport it somewhere else

>> No.50142838

>>50136849
It is, wealth depends on the IQ of the person. It's why Jews are rich while niggers are poor.