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[Anonymous No.50121443]

Anons who stopped being a neet, was it worth it?

[Anonymous No.50121463]

>>50121443
yes being a neet is a waste of your life and the 4chan biggest psyop ever

[Anonymous No.50121486]

who cares lol, life is suffering. doesn't matter where i suffer

[Anonymous No.50121500]

>>50121443
No, I have a kid now and she is great but not worth no longer having infinity free time and being care free.
I had a wfh job but I got burned out, I am in a worse situation than when I was a NEET.

[Anonymous No.50121511]

>>50121443
NEETing shouldn't include self improvement. If you are self improving you arent Neeting. Neeting is literally being stuck in a cycle that has no productivity. I used to think I was neeting, then I realized I was learning things everyday that eventually became skills. Now I am in the process of finding a job for those skills. If i had the funds tho I still wouldnt work. There's a tiered system
>NEET
>Self improvement not employed
>Skillset learned
>Self improvement Employed
>continue hating life
you only need to be employed if you are in a situation where you need money. If you are trying to self improve, you arent really neeting. Where are you at?

[Anonymous No.50121559]

>>50121443
I used to have a job in low-income housing, it was like a mix of social work, security, and building maintenance. It would have been most people's idea of hell but for me it was always grotesquely interesting and fun seeing how those people lived, and it was pretty low-intensity work most of the time. Also some of my coworkers were hot girls and everyone liked having me around because I project an aura of calm. It was unionized and paid decently but I lost it due to vaxx mandates and now NEET in mom's basement. I preferred that job to NEETing but it's better than some shit wagie job at a grocery store or McDonald's or whatever.

[Anonymous No.50121575]

>>50121443
had sex

[Anonymous No.50121594]

It's worth it to have money, yes. Don't buy into the whole normie package though, use your judgment and dont be fooled by consensus.

[Anonymous No.50121605]

>>50121463
Fpbp

This. Go outside and enrich yourself and the community.

This doesn't mean work somewhere that produces no value.

Find something that produces value (not necessarily $ value) and you will feel enriched

[Anonymous No.50121659]

>>50121500
don't talk like that, your priorities should be re-arranged. imagine if she reads this in 5 years when the entire history of internet traffic is unencrypted and linked to your identity. I'm guessing your bitch baby mama soured you on the family thing, but life is precious and worth living, even if not extravagently.

tackle your addictions, face your fears and traumas, find God, and do what you can to be more present. you can do all of this while making money and spending time teaching your daughter about the things you love.

[Anonymous No.50121667]

>>50121443
I'm in a reverse situation where I went from waging for almost a decade to NEETing for the past half a decade. Waging is hell, NEETing is bliss. It's not for everyone I guess, I've never been depressed in my life and most NEETs seem to be sad for some reason. I don't know what's up with them

[Anonymous No.50121686]

>>50121659
>muh god
>muh precious life
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaay

[Anonymous No.50121721]

>>50121686
When you need to come to terms with your own death, it's going to hit you like a ton of bricks. I'm sorry you're so detached from your true emotions, but I don't expect to convince someone who acts like an arrogant teenager.

[Anonymous No.50121741]

>>50121443
Yes I hated myself when I was neeting. It was filled with short term satisfaction but no long term satisfaction. Now I own a small business because I saved 3 years to make sure I didn't have to work under a retarded boss.

[Anonymous No.50121749]

>>50121667
NEETing isn't the same thing for everyone. Do you have your own place? If you're living with your family, do you have plenty of your own space? If NEETing means you're stuck in a small suburban house with a difficult family, it can be pretty trash. If NEETing means you made it and live in your own home, it can be pretty rad.

[Anonymous No.50121767]

>>50121443
unironically yes
even with a full-time job I feel I have too much free time. when I was neeting, I would spend whole days watching 4 hour long critical-analysis videos about videogames I'd never played and had no intention of playing, just to fill the time. I knew the whole time that I was entirely disengaged from the world and not even moving towards doing so, so every time I thought of the future I would feel intense dread and acute panic like I'd never known before or since. This would lead to binge-drinking 8-dollar handles of vodka until I was blacked out and screaming in the middle of the night. I would go twice a week to sell blood plasma across town, and they began turning me down because my blood pressure was too high, as a 21 year old, because of the binge-drinking. If you saw the people who they let through... Yeah, that says a lot. I even had a GF at the time, a proper qt. But having no real money, and living in that shoestring-budget mindset, made me really concerned over the slightest of things, and this damaged my relationships with many people.

Things are better now. You can be a miserable alcoholic with a "real job" (and I've known this too, being stuck in a role that I'd outgrown for too long without an idea of how to get up and out, although I figured that out eventually too) but NEETdom isn't all comfy like they say. There's something deep inside of you that knows you're meant for something better, and if you betray it, it WILL make you pay.

[Anonymous No.50121786]

>>50121721
I've come to terms with my own death when I was 15 and my best friend died. I came up with a very simple cope back then: you won't die as long as you live, and when you die, you won't be alive to experience it. Simple, but it's true. There's nothing to be afraid of, you won't ever meet death, when it finally comes, you won't be there. I truly believe this and that's why I'm not afraid. I don't need a book with stories about heaven to make me cope. I come up with my own copes, I have my own ideas about life/death/meaning that don't come from Jewish myths.

[Anonymous No.50121813]

>>50121559
pretty great post.

[Anonymous No.50121831]

>>50121749
Yeah I live in my own little place, I guess living with my parents would be depressing. And I have my own little stack of cash, shiny rocks and bitfucks that will hopefully last until I die.

[Anonymous No.50121832]

>>50121813
thanks for appreciating my diary desu

[Anonymous No.50121848]

I was miserable as a wagecuck and miserable as a neet. But at least now i don't feel a neverending sense of dread at having to spend another day doing boring shit that I hate. Neet life wins if only by a little

[Anonymous No.50121865]

>>50121786
It's not even a second and it's over. The thing is this is the last thing you'll experience so it's won't be a millisecond for you. You know like when you tripping and you have a day of experiences in a second. That's how it'll feel like just over and over again. It'll basically be your eternity. An eternity of replays of random moment of your life.

[Anonymous No.50121888]

>>50121786
>you won't die as long as you live, and when you die, you won't be alive to experience it. Simple, but it's true.
This is what you tell yourself. If the lesson you learned from your friend dying was that God doesn't matter and life isn't precious, then you're more repressed than your posts even indicate.

I know I know, you're enlightened by your own intelligence. Like I said, I won't be able to convince you because you believe what you want to believe, just like you do what you want to do, everything with you at the center. You're a narcissistic child. You may be tired of this meme, but you're incapable of understanding why it's funny, which makes it even funnier. Enjoy never coming to terms with your humanity as long as you think you've solved all philosophy by denying God and your true self.

[Anonymous No.50121900]

>>50121832
I also worked in building maintenance as my first "real job" post-neeting. By 5 years in I was feeling stuck (the fact that wages were stagnant, benefits got cut, while everything in the world exploded in cost was probably the biggest part, I'd have been fairly content with a few minor tweaks, it was comfy) but I did appreciate being engaged in the world and it exposed me to a lot, both in terms of people and industry.

When I was neeting, I really desperately wanted a job at a grocery store, like a whole foods or something. Seemed fun and social and it would give me something to do with a little money to boot. But I could never even get a call back, not once. In retrospect I'm glad things worked out like they did.

[Anonymous No.50121924]

>>50121888
That's a rather desperate attempt to make him feel bad

[Anonymous No.50121941]

For me it was because I don't have my own place and family is loud and I don't really like interacting so I hated not being alone NEETing.

In my job I'm either alone or with 1-2 people so it's pretty manageable, I'm actually ok socially just don't give many fucks, and I have money to spend on whatever I want. And although I don't like talking much I actually enjoy the outdoors so I don't have to be inside all the time and do the same boring computer shit

[Anonymous No.50121951]

do neets even exist outside first world countries? seems impossible to do without neetbux right?

[Anonymous No.50121954]

>>50121888
Angry hands that cant and will never prove a thing about god typed this post.

[Anonymous No.50121962]

>>50121951
families outside of first-world countries have multigenerational housing. it changes the equation a little bit.

[Anonymous No.50121969]

>>50121951
The passive aggressiveness in this one

[Anonymous No.50121991]

>>50121924
He entered the thread saying
>muh god
>muh precious life

He already feels bad and resents God for his existence, he just distracts himself with hedonism or intellectual masturbation like every other atheist child. I'm just making him aware of the parts of his humanity he studiously ignores. Arrogant defiance against God should be ridiculed and shot down, lest other impressionable people think he has a point (he doesn't).

[Anonymous No.50122054]

>>50121767
HOW DO I GET OUT OF IT
HELP
HOW DID YOU DO IT

[Anonymous No.50122066]

>>50121991
I loled

[Anonymous No.50122070]

>>50121954
Fedora arguments stagnated in 2005. You have zero philosophical depth and no insight into life or existence. You assume what you see is all there is, and you get even that wrong. Go stick a banana in your ass.

< This is the real reason you can't accept a higher power. Ask me how I know things about you that you haven't faced in yourself. Don't forget, this started because some manchild said he regretted having a daughter. Atheists have no rational rebuttal to this, thus he achieved the peak of atheist ethics in that statement:

>I CANT MASTURBATE WITH THIS! USELESS! STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO

[Anonymous No.50122158]

>>50121443
I don't really know.

I have a job but it did'nt give me any ambitions. I'm wasting my time for my boss instead of myself now.

I have a bit more money than before but I still feel as empty as before.

[Anonymous No.50122243]

>>50121888
holy digits of Truth
based beyond belief

dont waste your time with these fedora autists, anon. YAGMI

[Anonymous No.50122244]

>>50121443
The depression went away 95%, I felt whole, distracted by other people, charmed by being apart of their mundane lives. I slept with many girls, a different girl ever couple of weeks when I wanted to. It was fresh and exciting. But ultimately it was a distraction from life. Its all it ever is. yes it was worth it.

[Anonymous No.50122269]

>>50122054
How old are you, what work experience do you have, and do you live in at least a mid-sized metro?
In large cities, building maintenance is always hiring, and while there's more lucrative work for people with experience in trades or things like appliance repair, a "maintenance technician" entry-level job is mostly janitorial stuff but will have you working alongside/assisting more skilled techs who you can learn from. Takes no experience just a basic willingness to show up and work (and by the time I left, my old company was REAAALLY hiring the dregs, it's been hard to hold on to good people because anyone with any skill has moved on to better things). No real qualifications other than showing a little enthusiasm in the interview.

I mean there's much more successful people than me who could give you advice for better things to do I'm sure. But you asked what I did. As they say, "It ain't much, but it's honest work". Takes a bit of a humble attitude to start at least. But if you're a neet who's doing nothing but getting older in social-isolation, it's baby-steps at least. They say those are the most important steps.

[Anonymous No.50122734]

>>50122269
Im 21,only real job i had was in a minimarket doing night shift for a year.
Also im from latin america.
Im pretty much only getting older in social-isolation.
I have normie friends who tried to get me into their social circle but i always denied their invitations for fear of acting retarded.
I didn't shower for weeks on end and was making third world ''bank'' on crypto last couple months.
But now seems like the party is over and is hitting me how im still the same neet i've always been only with enough cash to not leech for a year or two.

[Anonymous No.50122993]

>>50122734
I don't know much about Latin America, but the good news is you have a little bit of money (having money isn't everything, but having absolutely nothing, is, to paraphrase a wise man) and you're incredibly, incredibly young. Those late-teens-early-twenties years are incredibly tumultuous, nobody has it figured out: nobody. But you'll live and learn.
This I'll say too: If someone used to invite you to things, and it's been a while but you still have their contact info, they'd probably be pretty receptive if you made a baby-step towards being social with them. Life really is very long and I've reconnected with people after literally like years and years of no contact, and there's something about reconnecting with someone who has a shared history. People are naturally curious like that. I know this because I've also had people I haven't thought about in forever do the same to me. Just like, sent me a youtube video related to something they knew I liked because it reminded them of stuff we would joke about. And *I* end up amazed that someone would have the gall to do that, AND I really enjoy the experience, AND I think very highly of the person who was brave enough to initiate this positive little moment. It's something I had a hard time internalizing (and am still working on, because I can be a critical person, stand-offish) but people really do have a natural tendency towards being friendly and open. If you haven't openly insulted or disgusted someone, even if you have nothing in common and don't "click", they kind of have a hard time feeling negatively towards a person who hasn't wronged them.
I don't know, anon. I'm working on it all myself but I know you have time, you're not completely off-the-map without hope, and I know that even feeling that sense of dissatisfaction is the first step to making something happen. Maybe not a business magnate presidential candidate "Great Man". But a humble life to call your own is enough. And you can have it.

[Anonymous No.50123002]

>>50121443
Nope. The second I leave my home, I'm feeling miserable for not being inside my home.
I look back to my NEET years as the happiest I'll ever be, and will probably continue to toil till my expensive genetic disease kills me, or I kill myself in a few years down the road.

[Anonymous No.50123027]

>>50122993

[Anonymous No.50123090]

>>50123027
I think this is appropriate.
Godspeed, my friend.

[Anonymous No.50123111]

>>50121443
No

[Anonymous No.50123205]

>>50122993
I agree with everything this anon said.

[Anonymous No.50123505]

At first no, but eventually yes it is.

[Anonymous No.50123547]

>>50121443
having or not having a job won't change how you feel about life, but if you're a soulless npc with no real hobbies or interests you will appreciate having less time alone with your thoughts

[Anonymous No.50123558]

>>50121443
Yup

[Anonymous No.50123562]

>>50121605
This. People are so obsessed with the things they own these days that they're forgetting to be happy.

[Anonymous No.50123566]

>>50122993
A rare quality post in this shithole. Well said.

[Anonymous No.50123608]

>>50121991
>lest
you're a midwit trying to sound smart. you know nothing and you never will lmao. fucking faggot

[Anonymous No.50123650]

i stopped neeting and went to wage at the airport, met a few cool people and chicks, definitely. You only realize how big of a loser you are when you leave the neet life, having said that if i made it i wouldn't be wagecucking, but focusing on my own projects, i'd say thats the real goal.

[Anonymous No.50123675]

>>50121559

jelly, never had a job with hot coworkers.

[Anonymous No.50123711]

>>50121443
Yeah finally met a girl with her shit together and she helped me with confidence and self respect. The neet life would have made me rope eventually it's a pathetic way to live no matter how many lies you tell yourself.

[Anonymous No.50123729]

>spend all day living at my moms house smoking weed, shitposting, playing moba and paradox games
OR
>spend all day sweating for minimum wage surrounded by normies and make less than i would selling a single covered call
gee sounds like a tough choice, i wonder if its worth it to wage???

[Anonymous No.50123839]

>>50121443
Depends, if you are a rich neet, as long as you have hobbies its fine, because just playing vidya 24/7 now THAT is depressing.

[Anonymous No.50123851]

>>50121500
It's time to give your kid a carefree life anon. You have the most important job in the world now.

[Anonymous No.50123881]

>>50121443
i dont know if im really happy. I got a job, friends, a gf. but sometimes all i want to do is stay home and play vidya alone, i cant do that anymore. im never really alone anymore, and i think its driving me insane.

[Anonymous No.50123935]

>>50121443
Yes. I've been working for 4 months and I can't fucking believe I wasted all these years NEETing, being angry and hating myself.
Sadly I'll be back to the NEET life in 2 months. But this time I'll be studying hard for a public job.

[Anonymous No.50123963]

>>50123881
The reality is that a truly happy human is one that is constantly in a state of distraction. Such distraction that you never have time to think about yourself or situation. You area just constantly stuck in your own life with dramas or work or something to just distract you from the reality of things.
>this is what separates the happy from the unhappy.
Those of us who are unhappy are usually NEETS or high IQ and either are so slow we can't participate or so efficient we are done with the task and have immense downtime end up being able to think about ourselves and the reality of the situation. You are being sucked into that with everything around you trying to have you do what it wants, but not what you want. Enjoy the ride because soon you wont even have time to post

[Anonymous No.50124081]

>>50123608
>lest is a big word
does it trigger you because it's 2 letters from what your dad did to you? I'm sorry you hate righteousness and God's beautiful creation, but don't blame God.

[Anonymous No.50124264]

>>50123963
at least ill be "happy" haha...

[Anonymous No.50124367]

>>50124264
Y-yeah.. "happy"

[Anonymous No.50124456]

>>50121463
fpbp, this place was designed to trap high iq slightly mentally damaged individuals into giving up.

[Anonymous No.50124502]

>>50121786
>he thinks you don't experience your own death

Lol. Lmao.

[Anonymous No.50124600]

>>50121941
>family is loud
this is going to break me, I have no problems neeting but the noise is driving me nuts.

[Anonymous No.50126554]

>>50124456
I also believe this to be true

[Anonymous No.50126562]

>>50121443
Yes
Yes

[Anonymous No.50126656]

>>50124456
>high iq
high iq neets are pretty rare, most of them are socially awkward, apathetic brainlets.

[Anonymous No.50126661]

Purposeful life w/ flow/bliss/real value-add >> NEET >> Wage Slavery

[Anonymous No.50126713]

>>50121463
>>50121605
>>50124456
lmao cope more wagies

[Anonymous No.50126747]

>>50126713
Ironic