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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptos. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier of entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward will gradually approach 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://youtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
My Monero
Exodus
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

>> No.50054040

>>50054018
ayo irs got a fat ASS

>> No.50054060
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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>49981531

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STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL
STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't; It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png

P2Pool-compatible remote nodes if you do not have your own local copy of the blockchain:

>p2pmd.xmrvsbeast.com - (Western Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)
>myxmr.net - (Northern Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)

OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend only on your hashrate, not on the pool's hashrate.

https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.


>Help grow the circular Monero economy! Buy/sell goods & services with XMR!
https://monerica.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://monero.com/marketplace

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

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>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

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>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total Bitcoin = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings Bitcoin would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per Bitcoin and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL.

And that’s assuming energy costs do not increase at all over the next 120 years, which they will.

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

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>>50054040
She's got a big bank fr

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We all know how this ends.

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Reporting in

tor irc- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/tzm4s
Aliases- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjbx3
Extras- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/daxte
Nodes- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/ke2k8
Mining- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/c7na4

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>>50054769
>niggers that glow the brightest

>> No.50054994

>>50054769
>>50053946

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>>50054769
>We all know how this ends.

Yeah, with Zooko popping estrogen pills.

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>>50055135

How predictable, get new material, chuds.

And again, if you want to actually make it buy Zcash, its set to be the next big thing in crypto.

>> No.50055331

>>50054018
Why doesn't IRS-chan radio for back up?

>> No.50055351

>>50055331
Because she likes it. Nobody beats the IRS except Monero

>> No.50055403

>>50055244
>shielded by default
it is not

>> No.50055445

>>50055351
But it looks painful!

>> No.50055931

>>50055445
You need to be 18 to post here.

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>>50055331

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>>50055244
>ECC listed as a good thing
lol

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>>50055244
82% of your user base doesn't use the privacy feature. This isn't alarming to you?
Also, the delusion that buying Z-cash is going to do anything but burn a hole in your pocketbook is hilarious. Z-cash is preforming as horribly as any other shit coin right now while monero hasn't dropped under 110.

Z-cash is so bad you have to come here and shill your shitcoin like a crypto parasite or some type of leech, face it.

>> No.50056548

Why don't the Z-Cash niggers make their own threads??
Why do you niggers have to come here to stain ours?
It gets so tiresome.

No matter how hard you guys try to shill your coin, i will NEVER FUCKING EVER adopt to it, since Monero is better in any aspect imaginable.
So why die tryin?

>> No.50056586

>>50054136
What does it mean that the technology behind monero was created by a company?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8TdRor-xFp0

>> No.50056941

>>50056586
Nothing. The code stands or falls on its own merit.

>> No.50057002

>>50056586
Nothing? Everything is open source. The underlying mathematics are audited.

>> No.50057551

>see cypherpunk-y project that tries to get more stuff running on P2P
>try to contribute
>"YOU MUST AGREE TO THE CODE OF CONDUCT BEFORE INTERACTING WITH OUR COMMUNITY"

God dammit, is Monero one of the only fucking projects that's actually good?

>> No.50057879

>>50057551
No CoC will ever be allowed to penetrate monero.

>> No.50057978

Marty Bent seems like a nice guy but I'm finding his
>bitcoin should be worshipped
>everything else is a scam
thing hard to listen to these days

If btc
>is useless as cash on-chain due to fees and block times
>basically useless as cash with lightning due to going off-chain and tending towards centralisation
>useless as a store of value due to sudden 80+% drawdowns
>useless consequently as a currency on which to base a 'standard' (the people who bought into that are getting hosed atm)
then I don't get the point in pushing it so far, particularly to the exclusion of something like XMR which doesn't have those issues (or not to the same degree at least)

Number Go Up was the last thing BTC maximalism had in the tank - now that's fucked too, I wonder if some moments of clarity are peeking through

>> No.50058016

>>50054018
wow, you sure are putting a lot of effort in your privacy coin, would be a shame if some major government came along and.... outlawed it.

>> No.50058032

>>50058016
what I'm saying is that instead of an art fund y'all need a lobbyist and lawyer fund.

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>>50058016
Committing crimes is outlawed in most countries. Lurk moar, newfag.

>> No.50058236

>>50058032
>Lobbyist
Gay
>Lawyer
This actually isn't a bad idea but is more than likely covered by the darknet markets and the cartels involved in them

>Captcha GRYHD

>> No.50058308

>>50054769
o p t i o n a l p r i v a c y
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>>50058820
Fren.

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>>50059199
:)

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Jan-Jans ones again discriminating against patrons of the arts.

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>>50060309

>> No.50060764

I hit my goal of XX after selling my ONE at a loss. I'm all-in on XMR. Just gonna hold and spend and maybe accumulate more every once in a while.

I'm gambling on the price in 10 years.

>> No.50060943

>>50058016
explain how Monero is illegal.
explain how Monero's "shady" characteristics are different than cash.

>> No.50060977

>>50060943
Don't ask me to explain it.
Ask your lobbyist and lawyers to explain it to corrupt politicians.

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>> No.50062210
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>new to cryto
>decide to give it a shot just for fun
>install monero main software from official site
>took me all day long to download chainblock and sync
>"ok, now i can finally mine and contriboot"
>weird shit appears in console and after hours of p2pool mining i still have 0.0000000000

WTF am i even doing i have no clue if i got it right or completely wrong. pic related.

>> No.50062308

>>50062210
Your hash rate is low so switch to mini pool and you will get some reward eventually

>> No.50062560

>>50062308
but am i doing it right? am i contributing? or just loosing my time...

>> No.50062605

>>50058016
Come and sneed it

Also good luck identifying any occasions on which I've used it and for what

>> No.50062718
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Here's my art of a Monero bull!

>> No.50062891

>>50062210
I'm mining at 1200 H/s
on P2Pool Mini

And i did not get any rewards despite doing it for weeks now.
And even if you get a reward, you have most likely burned electricity worth way more than the reward will be you eventually get at some point in the future.
I mainly do it to support the network, to contribute.
Even with a top tier Ryzen CPU, you won't make a profit since ROI is about ten years for the tech alone and electricity bills not calculated in.

>> No.50063050

How much xmr do I need to be rich by next bull run?

>> No.50063087

>>50063050

Fuck off and kill yourself, moonfag.

>> No.50063534

>>50063050
1000 at $1000 would make you a millionaire.

>> No.50063644

>>50063087
Nooooooooo
You cannot want to make money!!


SOMEBODY STOP HIM

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>>50063644
>You cannot want to make money!!

So go gamble with dog memes, Monero isn't the right coin for you.

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Monero has hit a new all time high on the monthly XMR/BTC transaction count ratio, and second highest total monthly tx count of all time (after Nov of last year). Even in a crypto winter we're still showing tremendous strength.

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Tapping in

>> No.50066217

>>50065357
>Monero has hit a new all time high on the monthly XMR/BTC transaction count ratio, and second highest total monthly tx count of all time (after Nov of last year). Even in a crypto winter we're still showing tremendous strength.
transactions mean little, could be just people selling out, clearly the price action points to that.. people moving their xmr to exchanges to sell it

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>>50065357
$100-$120 usd is too cheap to pass up. if it goes to double digits i will go crazy. i have also repositioned my portfolio to be heavier xmr, i wonder how many have dumped btc or eth for xmr as of late

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>>50066217
>could be just people selling out, clearly the price action points to that
Volume is low. I get the bearish sentiment given the obliterated prices on everything, but most indicators suggest it's low volume dumping and not a
>everyone running for the exit
scenario. Also that theory doesn't pan out as we've been gaining both sats and on-chain TX count compared to Bitcoin simultaneously, which doesn't suggest that it's caused by capitulation.

>> No.50066894

>>50066187
based.

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HOLD TIGHT MY BASTERDS

>> No.50067153

>>50062718
furry faggot

>> No.50067165

>>50067137
buy opportunity.
get your suicide stax lads.

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WHY ARE NO KYC MONEROS SO EXPENSIVE REEEEEEEEEEEE
ANSWER ME NIGGERS WHY WHY WHY

KYC XMR is selling at 112 Yuros on LM, the cheapest no KYC XMR starts at 150 Yuros..

WATTT ISSSSS HABBENNINNNNN

WHY NO CHEAP MONEROS FOR ME??!!!

MY PF IS ALREADY 81% XMR BOUGHT AT 410 YUROS!!!

REEEEEEEEEEE

ᵣₑₑₑₑₑₑₑₑₑᵣₑₑₑₑₑₑₑₑₑᵣₑₑₑₑₑₑₑₑₑᵣₑₑₑₑₑₑₑₑₑ

>> No.50067493

>>50067389
Local monero is fucking dogshit.
Buying crypto P2P in general is dogshit.

Why does Localmonero.co ALLOW KYC traders on the site at all? WHAT THE FUCK.

I FUCKING HATE THIS BULLSHIT. UNIRONICALLY CONSIDERING JUST SWITCHING TO KRAKEN BECAUSE AT LEAST I WILL BE ABLE TO GET MY FUNDS WHEN I WANT FOR THE PRICE I WANT WITHOUT HASSLE. I'M TIRED OF DEPENDING ON YOU FAGS TO SELL DURING BEAR CYCLES (BECAUSE NONE OF YOU DO, OR YOU JUST PRICE GOUGE LIKE FAGGOTS)....


I SWEAR TO GOD I AM *THIS* CLOSE TO MAKING MY OWN FIAT TO MONERO EXCHANGE TO FIX THIS SHIT.

>> No.50067528

>>50067389
works in my area.
I have a dealer that gives me sweet nero's for close-to-market price.

>> No.50067543

>>50067528
and also is without KYC, I forgot to add.

>> No.50067545

>>50067528
It works in my area as well but with FOOKIN 42% MARKUP

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!

>> No.50067562

>>50067543
WHY COUNTRY AND WHICH CURRENCY?!?!?!

>> No.50067590

>>50067545
yeah that sucks.
sorry to hear that mate.

have you tried buying no-kyc btc shitcoin and then using orangefren d0t com to swap to XMR?

>> No.50067612

>>50067562
nice try fed.

>> No.50067653

>>50067612
GOOD OPSEC

NO PROBLEMOS. NOW TELL ME WHERE TO GET MY SUI STACK REEEEEE

>> No.50067672

>>50067590
>no-kyc btc shitcoin
GOOD IDEA
ANY SUGGESTIONS ON WHICH SHITCION TO BUY AND WHERE I COULD BUY THEM???

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>>50067493
>I SWEAR TO GOD I AM *THIS* CLOSE TO MAKING MY OWN FIAT TO MONERO EXCHANGE TO FIX THIS SHIT.
oh nooooooooo that'd be terribleeeeeeeee
whatever will we do!?!

>> No.50067850

>>50067672
try buying the king shitcoin: bitcoin
you have the most chances of finding an atm on coinatmradar d0t com, or localbitcoins d0t com.

And then use orangefren to exchange to XMR.

>> No.50068063

>>50067389
Use a custodial wallet like strike to send their bitcoins to a swap service like fixedfloat.
The swap service will have no idea who initiated the trade. Strike will have your kyc info, but for all they know you're sending it to a swap service to pay someone in their preffered currency. There's also no taxes since you're not buying or selling bitcoin; you're paying them $0.03 to send theirs

>> No.50068092

>>50068063
kyc is the plague.
avoid that shit.

>> No.50068193

>>50068063
I did have a KYCed Kraken account many moons ago..
I took a month long leave from work and read all the FATF and ECB directives..
deleted my Kraken the day after that.
My XMR averages to 410 Euros a piece.

Now I would rather KMS than KYC.

Any advices on getting a no KYC monero for shitfiat with an exchange rate less than 10.9 bajillion EUR per XMR?

>> No.50068271

>>50068193
In that case just use localcryptos to buy litecoin and swap that for xmr. Last i remember the premiums were decent

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50068287

>>50068271
>Last i remember the premiums were decent
the lowest no kyc premium is 19%

>> No.50068337

>>50068287
Fucking hell, this is criminal.
There is zero reason why it should be that high.

>> No.50068339

>>50067389
do you have a bank with sepa instant?
i can sell you xmr p2p if you want
ofc i'll have your name if you wire me the euros
but I don't really get why you guys are worrying about kyc so much
monero is untraceable, it's a fucking black box
I just use kraken to buy fast and cheap

>> No.50068385

>>50068339
N26 used to have a function where you could send money to other N26 users on the cashiers of Aldi or something.
Something like that can be used for no-name money sending to an XMR dealer.

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>>50068339
>I don't really get why you guys are worrying about kyc so much

>> No.50068415

>>50068337
>Fucking hell, this is criminal.
Yup, Monero chuds be price gouging...

WHY DO THEY MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT TO GET A MONEROOOOOOOOOOOO????

>> No.50068433

>>50068415
street price.

>> No.50068437

>>50067850
>atm on coinatmradar d0t com,
The lowest spread is 15% on a BTC ATM near me!

>> No.50068456

>>50068433
>street price.
The fuck ?!
Is that wallstreet price or mainstreet price??

>> No.50068480

>>50068456
it's the real price that people are valuing the XMR at. Not the kike manipulated cex prices.

>> No.50068535

>>50068385
I have N26 and Revolut too.

>>50068390
for real, if you are buying XMR with your own money (from your bank account) what's the issue with KYC?
I can see why you'd want to avoid selling it on a KYC exchange after getting some huge gains, mining it, stealing, etc.
not that they could prove any of that (with the XMR alone)

>>50068433
>>50068480
lmao, what a load of bullshit
it's the price of autism

>> No.50068622

>>50062560
Yeah you are helping out

>> No.50068624

>>50068480
>it's the real price that people are valuing the XMR at.
Why are they doing that?!
Tell me, how many XMR does one need, when paper fiat is demonetized....
to buy organic meat, butter, eggs, veggies and a weekly EEUR hooker every week until 2047?

>> No.50068663

>>50068624
>Tell me, how many XMR does one need, when paper fiat is demonetized....
18.7 is for not necc'ing yourself.
50 is for breaking it.
100 is for making it.

>> No.50068718

>>50068415
Jesus Christ this attention seeking newfag is annoying.
Non-kyc always has a premium. If you can't pay that, the next best is to onboard into Litecoin and use one of the dozen swap services posted in the OP that don't require kyc to get Monero.

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>>50068663

>> No.50068745

>>50068725
better get stacking.

>> No.50068802

>>50068287
Then buy it on cakewallet with a debit card like everyone else

Also
>transferwise
Fuck those guys. Even after you KYC they delete accounts with zero explaination. Seriously if your idea of no-kyc is using transferwise then you're better off with strike; they don't need your passport

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>> No.50070505
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>page 10


not so fast

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>mining rig #2 randomly crashes
>won't reboot unless I reset bios
Fuck it I'll just keep this zombie alive through repeated resuscitation if necessary.

>> No.50071283

>>50054769
Ends with privacy requirement made as a result of regulations and PriFi solutions going mainstream

>> No.50071309

>>50055351
That's what I thought

>> No.50071422
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>>50055244
>ts set to be the next big thing in crypto.
>Token-gated system sucks
I shouldn't have to buy ZCash. More reason why Railgun is kicking its ass. Shouldn't have to buy a coin to stay anonymous on the chain

>> No.50071453
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>>50056548
They can see you

>> No.50071481

>>50056548
Because two guys with VPN does not a good general make.

>> No.50071482

>>50058016
>major government
What do you mean by "major government"

>> No.50071570

>>50058308
Absolute > Optional
However, privacy is complete when it is across a permission less and trust less protocol. Security has to be a vital component

>> No.50071629

>>50068802
Don't people on here use p2p monero for fiat to crypto? The sellers I've used in bongland never fucked me.

>> No.50071643

>>50071482
probably meant like a top 10 earning nation or something. The rich ones with actual influence.

>> No.50071688

>>50068663
Will I be a minor noble or a full on member of the aristocracy with my 220 xmr?

>> No.50071699

>>50057002
>random number generator
Everyone knows monero is done for.

>> No.50071712

>>50071643
What are they going to do? Ban your untraceable money? Make you use a vpn if you want to use a CEX? The horror.

>> No.50071804

>>50071688
no, because you disclosed

>> No.50071812

>>50071712
>on no! I have to be even more private! What ever shall I do???

>> No.50071826
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>>50066275
>i wonder how many have dumped btc or eth for xmr as of late
I know I have. Exchanged all my BTC a month or so ago. Kept a very small holding int BTC but I'm heavily weighted XMR now.
It's the only future for crypto IMO. Aside from CBDCs that is.

>> No.50071913

>>50071453
Well, bright persons tend to stick out. Thanks

>>50071481
THIS fucking THIS !!!!

>> No.50072274

>>50071826

So what made you jump ship?

>> No.50072439

>>50071826
Yeah I'm 100% xmr myself. Hard to hold anything else.

>> No.50072446

>>50071826
I did exactly this, Monero and Bullion
Saved.

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>> No.50072657
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>>50067493
>I SWEAR TO GOD I AM *THIS* CLOSE TO MAKING MY OWN FIAT TO MONERO EXCHANGE TO FIX THIS SHIT.
I'm currently in the process of doing this! Just some legal things to take care of before I start building the site.

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>>50072439
>Yeah I'm 100% xmr myself. Hard to hold anything else.

BASED

>> No.50072989

>>50067493
>buy xmr off exchange
>sell on localmonero with 5% markup for no reason
>free money
why wouldn't this work?
taxes?
is this somehow illegal?

>> No.50073000

>>50072657
any way we can contribute?

>> No.50073091

>>50072989
>why wouldn't this work?
That's how the higher volume people operate. It's literally a free money hack as all you're doing is arbitrage.

The difficulties are gaining a reputation as a trusted merchant in the first place, and obviously unwanted attention from your bank/glownigger agencies potentially enquiring about your large amounts of money moving on/off of an exchange.

>> No.50073339

So what, lol, I just buy XMR non-KYC and then withdraw it to an XMR wallet and send it back and then it's untracable? You are retarded if you think that's true lol

>> No.50073461

>>50071826
This image shows the only real money the world has: Gold, silver and Monero. Everything else is obsolete. It is the only portfolio able to resist a worldwide fiat collapse. This'll happen eventually as it is backed by nothing.

>> No.50073554
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Where can i find the XMR version of pic related?

>> No.50073839

when’re we getting rich lads?

>> No.50073844

>>50073554
IDK but I can tell you that my rigs (fairly well optimized 5950x's) get 1XMR for around $130 right now.

>> No.50074181

so if I buy XMR on a non-KYC CEX, do I have to send it between two wallets before Monero makes it untraceable?

>> No.50074210

OK Monero-Chads
Having a brainstorm here right now.
Thinking about a decentralized merchant platform similar to Ebay/Amazon, where paying/selling stuff, services or goods in Monero is obligatory.

>Merchant Platform app like Monero GUI
>decentralized Blockchain, similar to that of the Monero itself but separated
>goes obligatory via Tor
>each user can create his own account with password just like in the Monero blockchain and post a description of the shit he's selling
>can erase the account if the shit got sold
>text only
>if pictures have to be implemented, you do this via the Merchant app, that provides you with a list of free of charge image hosters
>select one of them
>images get uploaded through the Merchant app via Tor to the image hoster of your choice.
>only the link to these pictures get saved and displayed via the GUI if you klick on them to keep shit slim.
>anon "a" interested in buying from anon "b"
>pictures of the stuff get sideloaded via Tor, to be displayed within the Merchant app, so Anon "a" actually sees what he is about to buy from anon "b"
>sell buy process (you know how shit works lads)
>anon "b" erases his account or keeps it open until he has sold every item he has in stock.
>searchbar to find products
>metadata fields for sellers to make them easier to be found
>cathegory fields
>in stock/sold field
>price in moreo field
>country/region field
>ability for seller/buyer to sort after availability, price country/region and cathegory

Does this sound good to you guys?
Entire blockckain encrypted, just like the monero also is.

>> No.50074347

>>50074181
>so if I buy XMR on a non-KYC CEX, do I have to send it between two wallets before Monero makes it untraceable?
You have to send it to your own private wallet, but after that no you don't have to do anything special to make it untraceable. It works right out of the box.

Even if you give an exchange your primary address (as opposed to a sub address), they have no ability to see what your transactional history is after you take possession of it. The only asterisk would be the obvious anonymity problem is if you told two separate people the same address as being yours, then if they talked to one another, they could figure out you were the same person (e.g. if you give both a KYC and a non-KYC the same withdrawal address, the KYC one could obviously communicate to the non-KYC people your real identity if they talked to one another and saw two identical withdrawal addresses). And if that's a concern just click "create new address" in the "receive" tab of the GUI wallet and it gives you a new sub-address to use without having to make separate wallets for different exchanges.

>> No.50074363

>>50074181
Just create a burner address in the wallet. You can have as many as you like related to your core address.

>> No.50074397

>>50073339
what are you talking about.
if it is non kyc none of that matters.
If you buy Monero KYC and then immediately send it back you will have the same output in your ring signature, so the cex will know it is you...but they would know it is you anyways because you are sending them the exact amount of Monero back (less fees) immediately after you withdrew.
>>50074181
no, once you withdraw from a non kyc exchange to your private wallet you are good.

>> No.50074951
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How much XMR/Silver do I have to pay to fuck her. Her accent is sexy af, she has that natural girl next door look. I will hit on her next Monero meetup.

>> No.50075022

>>50074951
You will be thrown out by your collar. Go to discuss tech, keep your hyperactive nuts out of the equation.

>> No.50075075

Monero is now frozen on Poloniex

>> No.50075110

>>50054813
based

>> No.50075128

>>50075022
stfu, white knight simp.

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I bet she is a squirter. I want to fuck her on my silver coins.

>> No.50075174

>>50075128
oh no, coomers win again!

>> No.50075201

>>50074397
oh and frankly if you withdraw from a kyc exchange you are also good. If you have a higher thread model though then use non kyc, or if you want to be a chad then use non kyc only, as it is the best way to get crypto.
For a lot of people, KYC is the only way so you need to work with it sometimes.

>> No.50075231

>>50074951
kys coomer

>> No.50075256

Alright anons give it to me straight. How is the current crash in cryptocurrencies gonna affect Monero? Also, I heard this would be the end of proof of work coins. Is this true?

>> No.50075300

>>50075256
>How is the current crash in cryptocurrencies gonna affect Monero?
cheap monero
>Also, I heard this would be the end of proof of work coins. Is this true?
how are you going to ban CPUs, anon? With Bitcoin, ASICs are so specialized that they can just shut down mining farms.

>> No.50075336

>>50075174
>Guy wants to hit on / flirt with a chick IRL.
>Simp: reeeeeeeeee, cooooooooomer, reeeeee.
I will ``coom`` all over her face. I will send you a pic with her face full of cum next to a Third reich silver coin.

>> No.50075380

>>50075300
would there be any crash in Monero market and we'd get an influx of cheap CPUs?

>> No.50075414

What information can you see upon receiving a transaction ?

>> No.50075415

>>50075231
women are property, blow me.

>> No.50075872

>>50075075
How??! It is not even winter yet!

>> No.50075892

>>50075872
Not your keys, not your coins, m8.

>> No.50075928

>>50075872
sorry, wanted to reply to this >>50075075 guy.

>> No.50075953

>>50075414
xmrchain.net
Go look at transactions on there.
>>50075380
no cpus will probably get more expensive if anything

>> No.50075961
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I love her so fucking much.

>> No.50075984

>>50075415
le edgy anon

>> No.50076104

>>50075984
Nah, he just knows where the auction centers are.

>> No.50076107

>>50075984
I´ve said nothing ``edgy´´. Women were property all human history and will allways be. Since when is this shithole this cucked? ``coomer´´, ``edgy´´, what the actual fuck. Go back to fucking reddit.

>> No.50076138

I have an octo miner and I'm averaging about 95MH/s on my 3080s for mining ETH, how much can I except to mine if I switch to Monero?

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>>50076138
You might try mining in the moneroocean pool, you mine ethereum for them and they convert hashrate to XMR hashrate. As far as directly mining Monero with a GPU though, that's a no-go due to how RandomX PoW algorithm operates.

>> No.50076498

>>50076107
>Go back to fucking reddit.
Says the coomer...

>> No.50076748

>>50076498
>ellipse
Cunt. Either be definite or cease to be.

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>>50076498
If I am not mistaken ``coomer´´ meansporn addict. How is planning to go balls deep in a roastie with a hot accent being a ``coome´´, m8?

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>>50075300
>cheap monero
sounds fun

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>> No.50077546

Do monerochads invest in stocks?

>> No.50077567

>>50076107
kek at that projection. congrats, you got attention.

>> No.50077923

>>50077225
I can tell you are a porn addict because you think that real life is a porno and you can just pay anyone to have sex with you.

>> No.50078250

>>50077923
Arthur Schopenhauer ``On women´´, Otto Weininger ``Sex and Character´´. Uncuck yourself. I bet I can pump you full of estrogen, dress you up in a Monerochan outfit and fuck you for the right price..... No homo.

>> No.50078300

>>50077923
>doesn´t fuck escorts.
ngmi.

>> No.50078355

XMR brothel, when?

>> No.50078462

>>50077546
Got a few tech and miner stocks, and a 401k.

>> No.50078745

>>50058016
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

>> No.50078875
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https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220627IPR33919/crypto-assets-deal-on-new-rules-to-stop-illicit-flows-in-the-eu

Is that good for monero? I mean, everybody who is already KYCed can do the same for his „unhosted“ monero wallet. No difference from using cash with a bank. And therefore no reason to delist xmr. Do I get that right?

>> No.50078933

>>50078250
No, because I value my dignity.

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>>50078933
Could pay some niggers to make you do it. Pic related is out, you know.

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>>50078875
Still can't trace Monero. We keep winning even when it's an apparent loss.

>> No.50079623

>>50078875
>Is that good for monero? I mean, everybody who is already KYCed can do the same for his „unhosted“ monero wallet. No difference from using cash with a bank. And therefore no reason to delist xmr. Do I get that right?
this means if you transfer over 1000€ to binance you will probably have to prove somehow how you got it, they will probably be allowed to lock up your deposits, this is fucked up

>> No.50079771

>>50054136
It's about monero-chan, right?

>> No.50079884

>>50054018
I take one month off the Monero General thread and you faggots start deep throating zcash trolls, giving them engagement and (You)s which deposits shekels in ther bank accounts. Just stop, filter their memes by MD5, filter each ID, ignore each post. If you stop giving (You)s they will stop coming to this thread.
It's not even a question of not wanting to engage in discussions about zcash tech, is just that they are fucking retards who come here to spam "hurr durr you'll know how this will end hurrr" fucking faggots I swear to God.

>> No.50079992

>>50078875
>>50079623
All of these cumbersome KYC issues that get worse and worse as governments encroach on privacy are actually a good thing for the emergence of a "true" Monero economy. Buying Monero and reporting, in detail, how much funds you have and where they came from to the government is so fucking antithetical to cryptocurrency that it can only be viewed as a net positive and a stark reminder. This is why Monero exists in the first place.

>> No.50080533

>>50079884
Based

Anybody have any good theories on ole Nicky V Saberhagen?

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>>50062210
you are doing this ok. make sure you reboot and run the GUI as admin so XMRig (built-in) can use "huge pages" and give you more hashrate. but mine on p2pool Mini with your hashrate

>>50062891
you are probably doing something wrong as i mine just a bit above and have shares almost everyday. are you sure you have any rewards while mining on p2pool mini? pic related

>>50071277
isnt it heat related ? when i crash it's always because temp was too high

>>50073554
i don't think we can as bitcoin is mined with "known" asics hashrate and power consumption. for monero it varies by each personal CPU. plus the graphic is usefull for bitcoin as minng companies operate the business whereas for monero it's more regular people expecting a small return in case it blows off

>>50074210
>decentralized Blockchain, similar to that of the Monero itself but separated
you want to create a website in a blockchain?

>> No.50080713

>>50078355
Checked. Some whores accept XMR, it was popular on SWITTER (not Twitter)

>> No.50080753

>>50080533
>Nicky V Saberhagen
You mean Nickyolus Szaborhagen?

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>>50080753
>Nickyolus Szaborhagen?
Don't you mean Nickothenlian Sczechem?

>> No.50080838

>>50076421
So kind of like how Nicehash does it? Do you have any info on returns? they sadly have no calculator for cards only raw hash.

>> No.50080927

>>50072653
Kek'd

>> No.50081595

>>50080838
Sort of like Nicehash from the way I understand it. You're mining ETH with your GPU and getting paid for your work in Monero. I'm sure they take a small cut for the service they're providing but it's a nice way to leverage your GPU power to stack some additional XMR.

>> No.50082301

>>50080533
Cousin of Nick Szaborhagen no?

>> No.50082349

>>50081595
We'll see, I actually make more USD if I mine for nicehash than if I mine ETH directly.
I love monero but money is king when you own a business.

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The Session "Crypto" chat is bunkerchan 2.0.

Got banned for defending my waifu's honor by some fucking tranny.

reeee, muh underage, reeee muh iron cross, reee muh nhaaatceeez.

If you lurk here, fuck you, YWNBAW, fuck oxen, fuck PoS, Germany was right in bouth world wars.

YWNBAW.

>> No.50083007

>>50082939
Should we make a Session community for Monero?

>> No.50083056

>>50083007
Fuck no, no need for echochaimber with like 50 dudes.

>> No.50083116

>>50073000
Checked! But nah, I think I got this. Just waiting to see how legal this is in my jurisdiction and what regulations I need to watch out for.

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>>50054813
Based

>>50054769
Picrel

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>> No.50083296

>>50072653
kekkkk

>> No.50083848

Peter McCormack says his first coin was Monero... Anon, how is he still bitcoin pilled?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAT-wyiapMQ

>> No.50084401

>>50082349
Nicehash used to be really convenient but since they were hacked and moved on to that web based platform I’ve been kind of turned off by them. I don’t know. I’m personally more interested in creative ways to directly mine Monero these days.

>> No.50084880

>>50082939
o/

>> No.50085896

>>50054018
For those of you who appreciate anonymity. Please take a look at spinner cash. It's an alternative to monero that you might be interested in.

https://devpost.com/software/spinner-cash

>> No.50085922

>>50077923
kek he doesnt bang whores undeniably, intentionally, undoubtedly ngmi

>> No.50086293

>>50085896
Shoo shoo pajeet

>> No.50086710

>>50086293
Whatever. Don't look at it then. I was just sharing information.

>> No.50087638

>>50071826
wish more gold folx knew about monero

>> No.50087853

>>50071277
Sounds like hardware issues. I always put together quality components for builds not saying you didn't but consider them parts you have and are they fit for purpose (24/7 full rate hashing)?

>> No.50087989

>>50085896
Based thank you

> zk-SNARK based private transactions directly to Bitcoin, with no trusted intermediaries or bridges.

Monero literally not needed

>> No.50088097

>>50087989
Also zcash not needed kek

Both monero and zcash are the same level... Both scams

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Getting DANGEROUSLY close to no new Monerochans in production. Did the needful and pushed us close to completing the Daisy Duke one.

https://www.monerochan.art/

Also I think I found a glitch with the auto updater on funding, if you donate to two separate sub addresses on the same block only one of the updates gets triggered. Made a small donation to the mining animation one too in same block, only Daisy Duke one updated. Just a guess though.

Also decided to donate to VLC media player since I use them and they actually put their Monero donation address before they put their Bitcoin one.

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>>50088320

>> No.50089894

ICP literally just made your shitcoin obsolete. You can transfer NATIVE Bitcoin privately on the soon.

Get fucked Monero.

>> No.50089937

>>50083056
That's true.

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>> No.50089983

>>50089894
>Yet another mixer contract
>>50089944

>> No.50090011

>>50089983
Check the faq on https://spinner.cash

>Zcash was a pioneer in applying zk-SNARK to blockchains, and has popularized private transaction concepts like shielding/unshielding which are now well understood. But Zcash (or Monero) is a layer-1 blockchain with its own consensus protocol, PoW mining, etc. which are more of an infrastructure concern. Besides, they lack smart contract abilities and can only support their own native tokens.

Spinner on the other hand is an application built on top of a blockchain. It specifically wants to take advantage of IC's web-serving canisters, infinite scalability, and most importantly, the upcoming threshold ECDSA feature that will put an end to the hot mess created by cross-chain bridges.

Spinner and ICP literally make XMR obsolete

>> No.50090117

>>50090011
spinner, on top of icp, on top of btc, can't trust it, too many vectors of attack, xmr it's almost impossible to hack

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>>50089894
>ICP literally just made your shitcoin obsolete.

lol we hear this literally every week, take a number and get in line

>> No.50090235

>>50090011
>infinite scalability
They scale by dividing their network across more nodes but all of those nodes answer to a centralised server. So fucking retarded.

>> No.50090242

How long should it take to sync the blockchain from zero?

>> No.50090250
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>>50090011
Read it and the other anons' link. There is no mention of the trusted set-up required for zk-SNARKS.

>> No.50090266

>>50090235
>centralized server
You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>50090214
Your dinosaur shitcoin is going to 0. Why would people buy XMR when they can do private transactions (and also smart contracts) soon with native BTC gasless at webspeed?

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>>50090117
>spinner, on top of icp, on top of btc, can't trust it, too many vectors of attack

Yep, the more complex a system is the less secure it is. These dipshits fail to understand the basics of NetSec.

>Keeping the attack surface as small as possible is a basic security measure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_surface

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>>50090266
>Your dinosaur shitcoin is going to 0. Why would people buy XMR when they can do private transactions (and also smart contracts) soon with native BTC gasless at webspeed?

Because its an unmitigated security nightmare, you fucking clueless amateur.

>> No.50090300

>>50080594
>you want to create a website in a blockchain?
Yes, why not.
The client program on your computer, just makes it appearing like a website.
Everything from description of the product, to cathegory, price, available amount and so on is then placed by the client app in it's right position so it is conveniently readable like an eBay add.
Pictures get sideloaded from picture hosters via Tor, since they would only blow up the blockchain to unreasonable sizes, if you would embed them also into the blockchain.

>> No.50090304

>>50090268
You're holding an ancient Pow shitcoin that can't scale and doesn't support web 3.0.

One single dApp of thousands on the IC does everything your whole system is designed to do. Faster, cheaper and more secure.

Get fucked Monero.

>> No.50090313

>>50085896
>Key Ceremony
>Secure the zk-SNARK circuits.
Sorry, but one of the main selling points of cryptocurrencies is that they are trustless, so by re-adding the trust requirement, you have taken multiple steps backwards.

>> No.50090348

>>50090280
Tell it to all these top scientists who worked 5+ years on the IC https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=label%3Acryptography+dfinity&btnG=

But yeah one neckbeard cultists knows it all.

Your dinosaur PoW shitcoin is getting fucked soon. Get out while you can.

>> No.50090356

>>50090280
Stop mixing up security with privacy. Bitcoin security is just fine, better than Monero security.
> inb4 no it's not bla bla bla
yes it is.

>> No.50090377

>>50090242
Depends on your internet speed. The last time I checked, it was around 90gb, so just divide that by your down speed to get a minimum time.

>> No.50090404

>>50090377
Actually my node's CPU is too slow so the sync was taking forever. Just going to sync it on my laptop instead.

>> No.50090405
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>>50080594
>you are probably doing something wrong as i mine just a bit above and have shares almost everyday. are you sure you have any rewards while mining on p2pool mini? pic related
Right as i'm writing this comment, i see i received my first payout 24 minutes ago.

Yesterday, when i wrote the comment you replied on, i had not received a single payout, despite having mined in like 2 weeks i a row with a hashrate of 1200 H/s

>> No.50090422

>>50090304
>doesn't support web 3.0.
Due to the inefficiency a blockchain has when storing data, the only reasonable thing to use it for is a currency. Everything else doesn't need to be trustless, so you can decentralize it with other methods such as federation, or straight up p2p.

>> No.50090468

>>50090422
The point is to decentralize the internet so you don't rely on central institutions like AWS. Literally the same analogon of banks and BTC but to the internet itself.

>> No.50090477

And yeah ICP already works at webspeed and is not inefficient at storing data. They have been working on it for half a decade to fix this problem.

>> No.50090510

Does KYC matter if you just transfer out all of your XMR from exchanges as soon as you get them, or use coin exchanges like sideshift?

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>>50090477

>> No.50090543

>>50090510
KYC will only create a record of your purchase. After which you can move them to your wallet and lose them in a boating accident. There is no trackable record of what happens after your coins leave the exchange.

If you want to sell for fiat on an exchange, of course a record of that would exist, but you can get around this by purchasing physical goods with your Monero (such as metal bullion) and selling that for cash, or doing a P2P transaction. Obviously there are premiums involved in this process, you can also just wait for the world to recognize Monero is money and then use it as money later, or use it to buy other cryptos anonymously.

>> No.50090565

>>50090477
Icp is just cringe and shitty bro abd it’s not “decentralised internet” because the foundation has a dominant vote and can just remove any website it doesn’t like or finds problematic anyway

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anyone know where this symbol is from?

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>>50090615

XIV = 14

>> No.50090718

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVXQWQjQJiY

1:39:00

>> No.50090821

>>50090565
>>50090565
Millions of PCs are going to host the Internet Computer eventually. Stop telling lies when you don't understand anything about that project

>> No.50091176

Is it common for generals to being infiltrated by shills?
It's either ICP shill, Zcucks, discreet pajeet and others (I'm definitely forgetting some).
It's so tiresome. Nobody wants your bags. Get lost.

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>>50091176
>Is it common for generals to being infiltrated by shills?

Highly viewed ones, yeah. Expect things to get worse as Monero's profile grows.

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just wanted to share

>> No.50091470

>>50090468
The thing is, like I said in my previous post, you don't need a blockchain to do that.

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>>50091176
While it pisses me off, i understand that it is the shills way of showing their appreciation for Monero and their users.

>> No.50091615

>>50091436
That´s awesome, m8.

>> No.50091634

>>50091436
Monero ueber alles.

>> No.50091651

>>50091436
XMR Heil!

>> No.50091658

>>50091615
thanks, maybe a skilled artist will turn this into actual designs

>> No.50091686

>>50091489
Eventually ICP is going to integrate XMR too and save your dinosaur chain from extinction

>> No.50091757

>>50090304
POW is required for the type of application monero is used, sure for a lot of projects it might not be the best, but it surely is for a decentralized currency
Second, yes Web 3.0 will be big, that doesnt exclude monero from having its use and staying relevant

>> No.50092238

>>50091757
PoW can't scale and can never be used for a real world application of blockchain. Imagine people waiting 30 min for transactions while paying at a restaurant. The only way XMR survives if it's integrated by a PoS chain otherwise it will always remain an relic from the crypto stone age

>> No.50092254

>>50092238
*real world mainstream adoption I mean

>> No.50092302

>>50092238
PoS isn't magically better than PoW, they both have their tradeoffs.

>> No.50092301

>>50091686
lol

>> No.50092826

>>50092238
>PoW can't scale
That doesn't even make sense. Throughput has no relation to either PoS or PoW. What in the absolute fuck are you talking about?

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>>50092238

No thanks.

>> No.50092870

>>50092826
He is a god damn retard spewing bullshit.
Nobody with a half of a brain would believe the bullshit ICP is claiming.
It's just another FUD from some shill, pajeet probably.

>> No.50092871

Haveno testnet deployment work has started:
https://github.com/haveno-dex/haveno/milestone/1

Hopefully, by the end of this year, we will have a working mainnet Haveno software.

>> No.50093386
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50093386

Bros, I slurped.
Again.
:( :D

>> No.50093469

>>50093386
So you found a cheap no-kyc xmr dealer?

>> No.50093688

>>50090405
I would recommand mining out of the Monero GUI wallet. I have made a batch script to launch all the needed components (monerod, p2pool and xmrig). In my experience I has more shares when mining without the GUI. Tell me if you are interested. I'm also planning to make a tutorial for how to mine on p2pool

>> No.50093816

>>50093469
Yes.. 14.5 % over market price.
No KYC tho.

>> No.50093874

>>50093688
I am mining with the Monero GUI wallet program already.
Using macos on a late 2013 imac

>> No.50093884

>>50093816
>No KYC tho.
Based monero extremist.
Fuck the jews.

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>>50093884
>Based monero extremist.
I like growing heirloom veggies and eat organic red meet, call me bioterrorist <3
When should one stop slurping tho?
XMR has been on sale since a few weeks!

>> No.50094065

>>50093980
Try to get a sui stack amount (18.7 XMR).

>> No.50094167

>>50094065
Will do :)
I just want to give all of you faggots a tight virtual bear hug.
Nobody around me (irl) know or care about concept of privacy.
Here in this thread we are unvaxxed, uncircumcised, uncucked and monero using chuds.. I unironically love you guys, no homo.

>> No.50094262

>he fell for the icy pee meme

>> No.50094373

>>50094167
Hug you back, no homo.
We will win.
Stack XMR, use XMR.
3D Print Guns.
Use Linux.
Eat Meat.

>> No.50094505

>>50094167
Thanks for the hug, brother. A hug to you too. Godspeed.

>> No.50094982

>>50090011
Good point.
If spinner doesnt make Monero irrelevant than other chains will.

cosmos has the Nomic bitcoin sidechain which will allow IBC transfers of nBTC into private by default cosmos zones. There are a like 5 of them in the works, penumbra, secret (shitcoin), osmosis and juno will have privacy contracts, and anoma is another one.

>> No.50095060

>>50090348
Thanks for helping wake up these Monero cultists. I was actually one of them, I didnt realize it at the time that Monero is a cult. The group makes you think that there is no competition, ironically just like the btc maxis.

All of them need to be woken up

>> No.50095078

>50095060
>50094982
Talk about astroturfing

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>>50093980
>>50094373

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>>50094167
>Here in this thread we are unvaxxed, uncircumcised, uncucked and monero using chuds.. I unironically love you guys, no homo.
It's that simple. A toast to all Monerochads like yourself. God always wins.

>> No.50095133

>>50091176
I dont own any privacy shitcoins, except i have some old monero that I cant access to sell.

Im not shilling any particular coin. I dont own ICP. I dont own zcash or any others. Im just try to warn the Monero bros that Monero is going to be replaced and your coins are going to 0

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>>50095078
Im not promoting any one coin, go buy gun mfg. Stocks for all I care. Im just trying to inform that Monero is a dying coin
It peaked in 2017.

>> No.50095280

>>50095133
>I dont own ICP.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This pajeets bags must be really heavy. Sad.

>> No.50095338

>>50095098
Gott mit uns.

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>>50093874
sorry my english is broken, but i meant: in my experience minin without the Monero GUI wallet is more efficient than with the Monero GUI wallet.

>>50094167
>>50095098
based

>>50095252
that's wrong. we have much more transactions than in 2017

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I miss him like you wouldn't believe.

>> No.50095613

>>50072657
>>50083116
Ok that sounds extremely based
No-KYC fiat onramp exchange without absolute bullshit or "cash by mail to Hugh G. Nonce, Bumfuck Nowhere Two States Over" would be amazing

>> No.50096197

>>50095409
>sorry my english is broken, but i meant: in my experience minin without the Monero GUI wallet is more efficient than with the Monero GUI wallet.
I know, mining with the GUI client is less effective, but i will keep on, since it's more convenient and i don't expect to make a huge profit anyway.
I mainly do it to support and strenghten the network with the little i can. I'm fine with it as it is.

Using an outdated Core i5.

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>>50091176
yes this happens literally all the time.

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don't particularly care for glowies, 3 letter agencies, or anyone trying to get all up in my business desu

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>>50097667

>> No.50098456

>>50095409
Transaction volume of a privacy coin only gives you an upper bound on the number of "real" transactions taking place. Nobody can audit the send addresses, the receiving addresses, and transaction amounts by design. Given the relatively cheap fees xmr has, it would be logical for xmr whales to make fake transactions to make the coin look more alive than it is.

>> No.50098517

>>50077546
Yes, we max out my 401k, my wife's 401k and her 457. Doesn't leave much leftover, but fuck uncle sam, I'm paying as few taxes as possible

>> No.50098880

>>50074210
This sounds really cool. I think a weak point would be the tor image hoster? Like they go down, you'd lose the pic, unless the seller uploaded to multiple image hosters...

>> No.50099231

>>50074210
Blockchains are bad for markets because it will store who sold what and to who, forever.
Eventually tech will be able to crack that encryption (which means only the current sellers are safe, for the next twenty or so years)
How do you "delete" account from the blockchain?

>> No.50099379

here is a puzzle for .25 xmr to anyone who wants to try it https://pastebin.com/DgM3NBA2
view key included so you can see if it was claimed. I would guess it'll take less than an hour before someone manages it.
GL

>> No.50099482

>>50098456
There is obvious provable adoption though. see coincards data or the dark net adoption.

>> No.50099497

>>50074210
>>50099231
This, 100%
There is really no reason why online marketplaces should utilize blockchain tech. Too many people use blockchain shit these days just because it's "cool" and "trendy", when in reality it's supposed to be a LAST RESORT. Blockchains are bloated, don't scale well, and by design store ALL (even unnecessary) information. They generally suck and their only use-case is finance (aka crypto).

Also, buyers and sellers ought to have the right to be forgotten.

>> No.50099551

>>50093980
who said anything about stopping?

>> No.50100145

>>50099231
>>50099497
That's why i listed the option to erase the ad after you have sold your stuff and the transfer is completed.
To not blow up the blockchain and to make things not traceable in case of the blockchain being decrypted at some later point.

>> No.50100229

>>50100145
So your plan is to make a blockchain that can prune it's own blocks upon request?
Or maybe an amnesic blockchain that automatically prunes blocks older than X date?

How are you planning on implementing this feature. I'm not even sure if the stuff I mentioned is even possible.

>> No.50100455

>>50100145
A blockchain that destroys blocks? Then is it even a blockchain? How does the most recent block get verified if there are gaps?
I'm not sure you understand this technology.

>> No.50100460

>>50099379
Drat, looks like someone got it. What was the solution?

>> No.50100480

>>50099379
Hint please.

>> No.50100510

>>50100480
Wait is it not solved? I made a view only wallet with the view key and restore height in the pastebin and it said 0.0000000000000.

>> No.50100538

NEW THREAD: >>50100534
>NEW THREAD: >>50100534
NEW THREAD: >>50100534
>NEW THREAD: >>50100534
NEW THREAD: >>50100534
>NEW THREAD: >>50100534

>> No.50100545

>>50100510
Oh, I hadn't checked it yet. Well, I'd like to know what the fuck kind of cipher this was regardless.

>> No.50100551

>>50100229
Well, that's just an idea of mine and not a perfectly worked out concept.
One has to evaluate, if these features i mentioned are possible to implement or not. I can't answer this right now.
But i thought doing it like this:
If the buyer and seller have made their deal and everything went fine and the completion of the deal was confirmed by the blockchain to be ok, the seller gets the option to erase the ad from the blockchain. If he does, then it gets erased in the entire blockchain.

I'm sure, you can't use an existing blockchain as is to do this, but with some modifications, this would be possible.
Those marketplaces would be impossible to be closed down.

>> No.50100647

>>50100545
>>50100510
>>50100480
>>50100460
not solved, funds are safu

>> No.50100791

>>50100647
No hint? :(

>> No.50102496

>>50080811
It was so obvious the whole time

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>>50094167
chudbuds4life