/pmg/ - Precious Metals General

[Anonymous No.50051466]

The Führer Edition

>Why Gold?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo

>Bullion Dealers
https://jmbullion.com/ (US)
https://goldsilver.be/en/ (BE/EU)
https://www.chards.co.uk/ (UK)
more at: https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Russian/European Coins
https://oldsilver.ru/ (EU/UK/US)

>Constitutional/"Junk" Silver Info
https://jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
http://coinflation.com
http://coinapps.com/

>Compare Spot Price Websites
https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm (EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/ (DE/EU)

>News
https://www.silverdoctors.com/
http://silverseek.com/
https://mining.com/

>Bullion Tax Info By State:
https://apmex.com/state-sales-tax-information

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://usgs.gov/energy-and-minerals/mineral-resources-program/science
https://gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/farming-natural-resources-and-industry/mineral-exploration-mining/documents/mineral-titles/mt-faqs/faq_fmc.pdf
https://mndm.gov.on.ca/en/mines-and-minerals/mining-act
https://amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Test
Nitric Acid, Magnets and Ping Test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database
https://fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/identifying-fake-bullion

>Relevant Information Regarding Mining Companies
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

Previous Thread: >>50031659

[Anonymous No.50051490]

Why was the last thread baleeted? Too shitty?

[Anonymous No.50051491]

>>50051466
More like resurrected edition. Fuck jannies. Ban them.

[Anonymous No.50051495]

jannies mad

[Anonymous No.50051530]

>>50051466
Checked, Jannies fuck their own mothers. Fuck jannies, fuck feds, fuck crypto faggots.

[Anonymous No.50051547]

Bros i have like $5000.
Silver or gold?
And why
First time I'm buying either btw

[Anonymous No.50051549]

>>50051466
Oh yeah like this one totally wont get taken down, i prepare another thread.

[Anonymous No.50051564]

>>50051530
>jannies fuck their own mothers
true and honest words

[Anonymous No.50051576]

>>50051466
Picrel: Silver talisman given to the Panzer-ace Michael Wittmann.

>May the War God Thor, through this silver talisman, protect you and your crew
>This silver talisman shall be a link between you and our Germanic divinity
>The runes stand for joint work, defense, and fame and bravery
>Keep going with full intensity and passion for your goals like Thor once did, then you'll fight valiantly until the end
>May you be Thor's hammer, and may your Tiger be an anvil with which we forge victory!
>God Thor, grant health and victory to you and your journeys!

https://files.catbox.moe/8a9fcz.webm
https://files.catbox.moe/k4vibn.webm

[Anonymous No.50051582]

>>50051490
dunno but some guy here gets triggered to an insane degree any time someone posts a jesus coin. he must be possessed by the most foul of demons

[Anonymous No.50051664]

>>50051547
Both. 3k in silver 2k in gold.

>>50051564
You can almost see their extra chromosomes inbred fucks. Jannies ain't frosty.

[Anonymous No.50051694]

>>50051547
Both. I prefer a tilt towards gold because it's a proven monetary metal that central banks are continuing to hoard. Silver is also good but is more speculative. Personally I'd buy 2 oz gold (~$3740) and the rest on silver (your remaining budget would buy about 2 kilos, or 6 10oz, or 50 1 oz coins/rounds).

[Anonymous No.50051703]

>>50051547
Silver, it has more room to grow and a 5K stack of it will make your lizard brain happier than 2.5 ounces of gold will.
If you live in a shithole that taxes silver 20% it might be worth it to buy gold in the short term, but if you're in it for the long haul then silver is better.

[Anonymous No.50051720]

[Anonymous No.50051737]

if the anon who also bought the 2021 double sov from EIC is here who was wondering if we got rugged, I just got my order shipped email.

[Anonymous No.50051748]

>>50051694
Buying gold is just as "speculative" as buying silver.
The tried and true method is buying 1oz gold for every 100oz silver.

[Anonymous No.50051750]

[Anonymous No.50051770]

[Anonymous No.50051779]

>>50051703
Thanks.
I can get silver for spot price with no extra charges so I'll buy this

[Anonymous No.50051802]

[Anonymous No.50051826]

[Anonymous No.50051851]

[Anonymous No.50051914]

>>50051720
>>50051750
>>50051770
>>50051802
>>50051826
>>50051851
The wonders of credit creation theory! I've said it here before, but I'm always amazed at goldbugs who talk about "fractional reserve lending" when the reality (no reserves are required to lend anything) is far more dystopian and also accepted as mainstream, as these publications by the Fed clearly illustrate.

>>50051748
Silver has always been more volatile than gold, even going back to the 1800's. Additionally, since both have been demonetized, gold has remained a reserve asset for central banks (indeed, inventories are currently at record levels with no deceleration in sight https://schiffgold.com/key-gold-news/central-banks-added-nearly-84-tons-of-gold-to-reserves-in-q1/ ), while silver has largely been relegated to industrial and other niche roles. Again, I'm not hating on silver here, there is indeed far more -potential- for returns on silver than there are with gold, but unless you want to make a bet that civilization is going to collapse (and if you are, I salute you), gold remains the safer pick.

[Anonymous No.50051924]

why the fuck are jannies nuking/pmg/ now?

[Anonymous No.50051937]

Can someone explain what happened to gold and silver in 2001, and why it's not happening now

[Anonymous No.50051969]

>>50051582
>if you're pro your own native culture and you're anti-jew and anti-trannyism, then you're possessed by demons!

>>50051490
Previous /pmg/ that got deleted: https://archived.moe/biz/thread/50048504
ID of the """""demon-possessed""""" anon: 1lsZ+TGQ

>>50051924
There were too many redpills posted in that thread.

[Anonymous No.50051981]

>>50051914
>silver industrial use
>niche
you don't know what you're talking about
and you end your post with the implication that silver will only do well if "civilization collapses"
so yes, you're a silver FUDer

[Anonymous No.50052027]

>>50051969
>if you're pro your own native culture and you're anti-jew and anti-trannyism, then you're possessed by demons!
nobody knows what you're talking about, schizo
all you did was spam coins with hebrew letters on them

[Anonymous No.50052070]

>>50051937
2011*** FUCK

[Anonymous No.50052072]

>>50051937
People realized that the Wall Street speculative circus and indefinite American hegemony in the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union couldn't continue forever. Smart money began accumulating in the early 2000's and bought the dip in the mid-2010's while dumb money (Canada lol) sold off during the lows.

>>50051981
>telling someone to buy a considerable amount of an asset while advising it's probably going to act more volatile than another asset is FUD
Ok.

[Anonymous No.50052141]

>>50052072
you're trying to act like silver is a speculative bet while gold is "safe".
it's not the case. either both are safe or both are gambles, depending on your definitions.

[Anonymous No.50052152]

>>50051750
>>50051770
>>50051802
>>50051826
Where are you getting these?

[Anonymous No.50052162]

>>50051969
what redpills I wasn’t monitoring
last I saw someone posted a bunch of coins with Hebrew on them, the Hebrew for YVWH right?
man jannies can’t into numismatics I’m not gonna get triggered if a poo or Muslim posts a coin with shiva on it or allah engraved on it wtf

[Anonymous No.50052179]

>>50051582
You mean like this?

[Anonymous No.50052226]

>>50052162
>what redpills I wasn’t monitoring
Nazi shit.

[Anonymous No.50052292]

Idea for a new meme round, “GM”

Obverse has Apu with coffee and GM, reverse has him with gun telling you to say it back.

>Pic related

[Anonymous No.50052316]

>>50051770
The funny thing:

In order to become (reliably) rich, you need to have others work for you. The more people you can have working for you, the richer you can become.

Bankers figured out the ultimate way to gain wealth: Make everyone else work for you. Literally the second you get your paycheck, the bank has already spent 90% of your money. So they issue more money, and leech off the labour of everyone else.

[Anonymous No.50052451]

>>50052292
seems like a /ck/ coin

[Anonymous No.50052498]

>>50052451
Have there even been non /biz/ coins minted?

[Anonymous No.50052526]

>>50052498
yes, i believe someone posted proof of a /mlp/ con that was minted.

[Anonymous No.50052555]

>>50052141
Well of course all assets are speculative to a degree (except cash, which is a guaranteed loss), but surely you have to acknowledge that some are riskier than others, yes? Just looking at a simple price history of gold and silver clearly shows silver to have significantly higher beta than gold does. Whereas gold tends to move in multi-year lurches, it's not uncommon for silver to swing +/-15% in a single month. Now there are plenty of investment theses out there (green tech, silver squeeze, etc.) that purport that silver will buck historical trends and outperform gold even adjusting for beta. I find these theories fairly reasonable, which is why I own as much silver as I do. That being said, this is the very definition of speculation.
Just taking a look at a historical example: if you bought gold at peak hype in 2011, you would have experienced a max drawdown of 44% and would currently be up 4% if you never sold. Conversely, if you did the same with silver, your max drawdown would have been 75% with prices still down 55%. On the contrary, if you bought gold in the 2008 trough, you would have only made 159% (unrealized) gains in 2011, but if you did the same with silver, you would have been up 421%! Like I said, way more speculative.

>>50052526
That was technically an etched coin, not actually minted.

[Anonymous No.50052589]

>>50052226
oh cringe jannies

[Anonymous No.50052627]

>>50052152
bankLIESdotORG

[Anonymous No.50052649]

FUCK SILVER MINING STOCKS

DOWN 85% AND COUNTING

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[Anonymous No.50052665]

>>50052649
we warned you about mining stocks bro
it's just as degenerate as shitcoin gambling

[Anonymous No.50052696]

>>50052627
Thanks

[Anonymous No.50052697]

>>50051914
Wow, someone who gets it! You are a rarity in the 4chan realm.

[Anonymous No.50052735]

>>50052555
Fair enough. I guess I can't argue against silver being more volatile.

[Anonymous No.50052778]

>>50052649
I still have the precious metals mining stocks in my IRA that I bought in 2011. Paid $21,000, present value eleven years later $7,000.

[Anonymous No.50052845]

Silver isn't an obvious choice for a bong. There's VAT and even the VAT-free stuff has high premiums.

What's the highest price at which Britannias are worth buying and why?

[Anonymous No.50052912]

>>50052226
>you must not post what happens to society when the currency is debased
>it's... nazi shit!

[Anonymous No.50052937]

>>50052845
britannias are bullion coins, and you should pay as little as possible over spot

[Anonymous No.50052965]

>>50052649
>he fell for the miners meme promoted by the anti physical shills

[Anonymous No.50053004]

Silver is so undervalued right now its insane.
First Majestics has Consolidated all-in sustaining costs (AISC) of $20.87 an ounce in Q1.

[Anonymous No.50053029]

Anyone save their 16 cents from last year?

[Anonymous No.50053037]

>>50052937
wrong picture

[Anonymous No.50053068]

>>50053029

[Anonymous No.50053099]

You wonder where my curtoms came up with the €37 value on a single Bog when the spot is nearly half that?

[Anonymous No.50053134]

>>50053099
it will have been based on whatever mintanon claimed on the excise form

[Anonymous No.50053146]

>>50053068
everything keeps going up and silver gets cheaper and cheaper and im supposed to pretend its not a steal for some reason? why isnt everyone buying this shit

[Anonymous No.50053149]

>>50051466
You know I keep das Dinge on me

[Anonymous No.50053203]

Why tranny janny shoah last bread?
Did you guys pick on xir about theyre benis again?

[Anonymous No.50053219]

>>50053099
>8.52 plus tip
ouch

[Anonymous No.50053478]

>>50053203
I reported the sa*anist faggot for spamming the thread with his fake god gold pics and the mods being khazar faggot puppets themselves 404'd it, that or they didn't like the choice of OP Pic i used.

[Anonymous No.50053613]

>>50053478
Based

[Anonymous No.50053701]

>>50053146
Gold and silver are speculative assets artificially propped up by cheap interest. You got played hard believing the inflation meme, thanks for holding the bag.

[Anonymous No.50053710]

Grabbed a fistful of mercs at my dealer today and found 5 barbers in the batch when I got home. Guy says he doesn't even bother checking for key dates or anything anymore cause he's doing so much business he can't keep up. Feeling pretty good frens

[Anonymous No.50053817]

[Anonymous No.50053822]

>>50051491
>>50051495
>>50051530
Wtf even is going on... I got 3 bans just yesterday, cause I was in an argument with one of them.
Do your job, fucking miscarriages, and stay out of the threads...

[Anonymous No.50053903]

I plan to stock 2 oz au and 100 ag, what do you think about this ratio?

[Anonymous No.50054102]

>>50053701
>cheap interest
yah because so many people are taking out loans to buy gold/silver
you have no idea what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.50054103]

I've got a longtime friend wanting to sell some 1964 JFK Half Dollars and pre 1964 quarters, how much should I offer a piece for them to beat what the pawn shop would give him but still get a good deal?

[Anonymous No.50054125]

>>50052912
The strength of a currency is the most direct representation of a nation's sovereign power and prosperity. The dollar falling into the toilet is a direct representation of that. The fact the $100 bill is by far the most printed in the USA should tip you off that something is very wrong with our wealth balance.
>>50053903
Get a little more Gold, it's easier to buy silver than it is Gold.

[Anonymous No.50054175]

for me, it's .900-.916 coins

[Anonymous No.50054189]

>>50053903
the better ratio is 1 oz au for every 100 oz ag

[Anonymous No.50054211]

>>50054103
I was paying £8.50 now they seem to go for £10-12. That’s the increase in about two months but thats eBay. Take into account currency adjustment and the fact I’m not in the US.

[Anonymous No.50054213]

>>50054175
>type 2 cuck eagle
spend a little more for the type 1s next time, fren

[Anonymous No.50054224]

>>50053903
At this gold:silver price ratio, those who know the precious metals market don't even buy gold at this moment, they're acquiring as much silver as they can.
This >>50054189 is the ratio suggested to everyone just starting out.

[Anonymous No.50054306]

>>50054213
i have both, the type 2 is superior in all respects; i hate the type 1, it sickens me greatly

[Anonymous No.50054429]

>>50054306
Couldn't agree more. Not a fan of ASE in general but at least the back looks cooler now

[Anonymous No.50054431]

>>50054125
>>50054189
>>50054224
thanks for all the answers, I have one more question: bars or coins?

[Anonymous No.50054469]

>>50054306
>wholesome scene of an eagle family sickens me
do you happen to be jewish

[Anonymous No.50054479]

>>50054431
My stance on what to buy assumes you have money to spare (having at least a month's wages saved in cash for emergencies):
- For generic bars with no design, watch the markups over spot: premiums (added charges) go up for smaller pieces. When selling, your buyer may insist on spot price.
- When a new series of artful or themed bullion (especially coins) comes out, the first of the series are usually missed by later collectors. They will pay high premiums to fill in the series. Ponder the potential for series popularity: generic and/or cringeworthy-themed series have higher failure rates.
- Interesting coins cost least while they're still being minted. Once the mintage stops and dealers run out of stock the prices jump, then rise more slowly but still faster than generic silver. Maples, Eagles, Wieners, Britannias, etc. are all nice but boring. The mint may add a privy to make them more collectible (creating a series) and gin up the price. Buy stuff that changes overall designs from year to year: Somali elephants, Canadian Wildlife, Australian kookaburras or koalas, island nations' series, etc. These become series.
- If you buy pieces that appeal to your sense of art, taste, and interests, they will still feel good even if the price or value of the PM goes nowhere. Caveat: if you go to sell, it's harder to part with them.
- Some beautiful generics are priced comically high (Germanias, e.g.) - they don't follow the market trends as readily, and usually garner highest resale price only for a few years after the mintage. The drawback: dealers may categorize these as "generic" and price them as generic when buying them from you.
- If free shipping is offered, buy enough to take advantage of that. Although it's shipping (not directly PM), it's an added premium.
- Keep a spreadsheet of your purchases!!! You should track profit/loss over time. It's quite revealing.

[Anonymous No.50054508]

> indefinite wait
12 "best value" sovs from Chards. What's the likely wait we're talking here? days? weeks? months?

[Anonymous No.50054613]

>>50054508
britanniacoincompany are around the same price for best value sovs, plus they have stock and don't charge shipping

https://britanniacoincompany.com/buy-coins/gold-coins/full-gold-sovereign-pre-owned-best-value/

[Anonymous No.50054640]

>>50054469
>wholesome scene of an eagle family
that's a stretch
>do you happen to be jewish
the type 1 design sucks, there's nothing cucked about the type 2 design to blame the kikes about

the ASE is a totally different story

[Anonymous No.50054650]

>>50054479
thank you for the effort, Im saving this

[Anonymous No.50054777]

>>50052845
>even the VAT-free stuff has high premiums.
3.6% is a high premium?

[Anonymous No.50055368]

dead tonight

[Anonymous No.50055471]

>>50055368
Have a picture

[Anonymous No.50055494]

>>50055471
Niue always comes out with some esoteric coins, fair play

[Anonymous No.50055528]

>>50054777
i was posting about silver, not gold. sorry for not being clearer.
and checked.

[Anonymous No.50055584]

>>50051466
Wagmi. I hate the antichrist

[Anonymous No.50055611]

>>50055528
When you said "even the VAT free stuff" that only means gold as it's the only metal that is VAT free here.

[Anonymous No.50055653]

>>50054431
Coinz

[Anonymous No.50055654]

>>50055611
second hand silver is VAT free. technicality in the VAT law, you can't charge tax on something twice.

[Anonymous No.50055656]

>>50054613
>https://britanniacoincompany.com/buy-coins/gold-coins/full-gold-sovereign-pre-owned-best-value/
thanks fren. i'm new to this so the guidance is very valuable

[Anonymous No.50055683]

>>50055611
checked again.
i was referring to second hand silver, which can be VAT free.

[Anonymous No.50055691]

>>50055654
Are you sure? I've not heard about this but I suppose you're right if car boot sales are allowed.

[Anonymous No.50055710]

>>50055691
>car boot sales are allowed.
car boot sales arr allowed VAT free for example.

[Anonymous No.50055734]

>>50055691
>you sure
yup

[Anonymous No.50055800]

>>50055734
>yup

[Anonymous No.50055810]

got 2oz of gold in the mail, very excited. picking them up tomorrow

[Anonymous No.50055850]

Buying some PMs from https://www.lpm.hk, anyone want to join in the order to make the shipping worth it?

[Anonymous No.50055860]

bought 10 oz bros, am i gonna make it?

[Anonymous No.50055883]

>>50055471
>Pluto silver coin
would be pretty Kino if an anon who bought this had this passed onto their descendants and those who inherited it would eventually go on to visit or even live on Pluto with this in their possession desu

[Anonymous No.50055900]

>>50055860
depending on what tier chart you are going with
you are either a stacklet or a serf tier or around tat if this is as big as your stack is at the moment
nice purchase, keep up the good work anon

[Anonymous No.50055941]

>>50055900
thank you brother
i might have to buy some more if silver keeps going down

[Anonymous No.50055945]

>>50055900
Where is that chart again? Cant find it.

[Anonymous No.50055964]

everything i see shows silver dropping short term

[Anonymous No.50055965]

Soon coming to the west

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnAsBCsABbk&ab_channel=WION

[Anonymous No.50055973]

>>50051466
>>50051490
Jesus Christ is King, and platinum the metal of kings.

>>50051547
two ounces of gold in coins (sovs or krugs) and a Glock 43.
>why
maximum concealability. easily carry your stack around with you.

[Anonymous No.50055978]

>>50055965
god willing

[Anonymous No.50055987]

>>50055973
yeah ok schizo

[Anonymous No.50056025]

>>50051969
Someone tried to warn the dude he was going to get shoah'd, and flooding the thread with the same pictures as before because there was a religious figure in the OP is... Not normal. It's schizo-tier.

[Anonymous No.50056055]

>>50056025
I think it was the same spastic who was posting his plan to melt down 10,000 sim cards for free

[Anonymous No.50056096]

>>50054479
dolphins are based

[Anonymous No.50056149]

>>50055987
>schizo
>he thinks Louis XV is schizo

[Anonymous No.50056198]

>>50055965
Here's a thought. Say western countries like the UK have a run on the banks. What would be better to do, go queue at your bank and withdraw your fiat cash, or sit on your arse and quickly buy precious metals from your own home with a debit transaction before the banks run out of cash?

[Anonymous No.50056241]

>>50056198
I try to keep less than 5k in the bank at any time for this very reason
put your money to work, it's doing nothing in shekelstein's pocket except making him richer. invest, buy gold/silver, have fun(!)

[Anonymous No.50056246]

It seems pretty slow in here.

[Anonymous No.50056287]

>>50056241
Oh I agree, keeping it in the bank is doing nothing for you after I read just how much the pound has depreciated since 1971, but I'm talking about a hypothetical, in that what would you do if there was a run on the bank you've got an account with.

[Anonymous No.50056311]

>>50056287
>what would you do if there was a run on the bank you've got an account with.
well, deposits up to £85k are "protected" by the government, so if there was a happening, big daddy guvment should reimburse you up to £85k

[Anonymous No.50056333]

>>50055653
i like your coinz anon!

>>50055584
>Wagmi. I hate the antichrist
same

>>50054175
>for me, it's .900-.916 coins
same

[Anonymous No.50056343]

>>50056311
I suppose if you've got that much money lying around in your account you would have already diversified your wealth.

[Anonymous No.50056355]

>>50055883
Interesting idea!

[Anonymous No.50056370]

>>50056343
this tbqh.
most sheeple in this country never save fuck all and live in their overdraft.
the mortgage on their 2 up 2 down is the only investment they will ever make.

[Anonymous No.50056424]

>>50056311
>big daddy guvment should reimburse you up to £85k

What they dont tell you is that 85k will probably be worth what 8500k is worth now, or if the print enough 85, then 0.

[Anonymous No.50056457]

>>50054224
Those who know the precious metals market are not buying gold now?

I like silver and stack it myself. And if you are on a budget, you should absolutely start with silver. But the idea that "people in the know" are not buying gold is simply not true. The people MOST in the know about international finance, the Uber-insiders of money and banking, are packing gold into their vaults like Tokyo salarymen into a rush hour train.

When the G7 make a big deal about banning Russian gold transactions, and when four of the world's top gold producers join hands and publicly announce their opposition to the dominance of the USD, you KNOW gold is moving ever closer to remonetization. Get on that rocket if you can.

[Anonymous No.50056482]

>>50055945
I'd like to see it too

[Anonymous No.50056525]

Hi 21oz retard here.

Is it correct if I tell someone that commodities or goods are not rising in prices but the value of their money is decreasing? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.50056568]

>>50056287
You should've already got out by now.

[Anonymous No.50056631]

>>50056525
>Is it correct if I tell someone that commodities or goods are not rising in prices but the value of their money is decreasing? Thanks in advance.

[Anonymous No.50056683]

MCM's ebay store fucking sucks holy shit ship my coin

[Anonymous No.50057008]

>>50056198
theyve made bank runs impossible by being able to print whatever they want and digitalizing fiat. buying pm essentially is a bank run

[Anonymous No.50057011]

>>50056568
this is why i keep 80% of my liquid wealth in bitcoin or gold

>inb4 hurrr crypto isn't real
Bitcoin is the closest thing to hard money that the modern world is capable of

[Anonymous No.50057088]

>>50057011
you had those krugs tested?

[Anonymous No.50057132]

>>50057088
if it sounds like this and weight is what it should be is probably legit
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYwnjlJHelY
>if it sounds like the 22 karat one that is

[Anonymous No.50057226]

>>50051547

These niggers are guiding you wrong. Gold. Get 2 ounces then save whatever is left over for more gold.

You want to buy 1 ounce coins to save on premiums. 1/2 ounce if you're in a pinch and impatient but 1 ounce gives you the most bang for your buck.

[Anonymous No.50057235]

Did Frensmark Anon get banned? Haven't seen him for a while.

[Anonymous No.50057253]

>>50054306
Lmaoing at that faggy ring stuck on your fat kike fingers. Only a matter of time before the circulation cuts off and your obese pointer is amputated.

[Anonymous No.50057353]

mintanon, why in the fuck did you make any order under $100 signature required? I can understand large orders but jesus dude, we aren't dealing with missiles here

[Anonymous No.50057362]

>>50057132
it's not the sound, it's just his krugs look brass

[Anonymous No.50057491]

>>50056631
I'm really sorry Anon but I don't understand what that is.... I am a retard for a living...

[Anonymous No.50057529]

>>50057362
>he doesn't have a tryhard "based" meme year on his Krug
Anyways, that's because Krugs aren't pure gold. They will change color over time and not in a uniform tone or rate.

[Anonymous No.50057626]

ni-night slags

>>50057529
yeh whatever, seen enough brass on /pmg/ to know what is looks like

[Anonymous No.50057718]

>>50057362
>>50057626
well that isn't unusual since Krugerrands are 22 karat rather than 24 karat and I do believe have a fair bit of copper to give them a "brassy" look to them over time
still, checking every purchase is a good idea regardless, not only to see if it is indeed the right metal content, but even if it is gold to make sure it is authentic coinage from an official mint rather than a counterfeit made of gold amirite?

[Anonymous No.50057726]

Anyone else having problems opening up pics on this shitshow of a board?

[Anonymous No.50057764]

>>50057726
Yes actually, thought I was the only one though
just like a little error that comes up for certain pics but not others?

[Anonymous No.50057767]

>>50057726
Yes, I first noticed about 6 hours ago.

[Anonymous No.50057776]

>>50057088
>you had those krugs tested
i have a sigma, yes; i have 4 krugs, they all have a slightly different tone and wear to them

>>50057253
>Lmaoing at that faggy ring stuck on your fat kike fingers
its true i have little manlet sausage fingers; i am not a kike tho

[Anonymous No.50057822]

>>50057776
Like this image for instance, I click on it, but then it freezes up for a few seconds and than a an error pops up saying this image doesn't exist or something like that
I wonder what is causing it, sometimes refreshing helps to fix it but even then on some images the same error comes up despite refreshing

[Anonymous No.50057828]

>>50057253
dick beater anon is one of the five worst /pmg/ posters

[Anonymous No.50057920]

>>50057828
>seikos are good watches
>bitcoin is sound money
>silver is over-hyped
do your worst

[Anonymous No.50057931]

>>50057776
Nothing wrong with your krugs, or your rings. I like the shilling ring, cool idea.
As for the krugs, unless you buy your shit on eBay, which I highly doubt, the chances of getting a counterfeit coin from an authorized dealer are basically zero.

[Anonymous No.50057937]

>>50057764
>just like a little error that comes up for certain pics but not others?

Thats the one

[Anonymous No.50058208]

>>50057920
I don't get it, what's wrong with seikos?

[Anonymous No.50058542]

>>50058208
nothing, seiko 5s are kino

it's some in-joke from a few threads ago. dumb pointless bullying, not even a single kek was had.

[Anonymous No.50058818]

So how long after crypto completely melts down do you think shitcoins and their shills will still be on this board as anything other than a fringe gambling addicts general?

[Anonymous No.50059259]

[Anonymous No.50059523]

>>50051547
My personal strategy is to have a little bit of gold for the absolute SHTF scenario in small coins like sovereigns or 1/2 and 1oz. The rest is to silver.

I would split something like $800 gold the rest silver

[Anonymous No.50059878]

>>50057011
bitcoin is not hard money, sweetie
it is a speculative tech stock
that's why it's going down

[Anonymous No.50059909]

>>50054306
yeah your ring is very tacky and your hand looks gross

[Anonymous No.50059921]

>>50051582
>>50052179
postan meme bar.

[Anonymous No.50060056]

Anyone have platinum or palladium? Is it worth it?
It's for my superannuation (Oz version of 401k)

[Anonymous No.50060068]

>>50060056
>Anyone have platinum or palladium? Is it worth it?
memes
stack that silver + gold

[Anonymous No.50060102]

>>50060056
Of course it's worth it. About to go full rhodium.

[Anonymous No.50060139]

>>50051720
>>50051750
>>50051770
>>50051802
>>50051826
>>50051914
Here's an article for you guys. First result when I googled "how is money created". Most people here already know all of this but it would be very handy if any newfriends are here.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/081415/understanding-how-federal-reserve-creates-money.asp
All methods of creating more usd result in debt. When they create usd they are only creating the premium. Where does the interest come from? There is always more debt than dollars in existence.

[Anonymous No.50060204]

>>50058208
He said he wore his wealth, and posted an image of a $100 seiko with a pvc band made of stainless steel.
Things escalated quickly.

[Anonymous No.50060238]

>>50060139
You now understand why US spending projects are so absurdly overpriced. Above our "real" three branches of the government the powers that be are split three ways: The Federal Reserve, the Corporatocracy, and the Israel Lobby. And all three of them benefit greatly from putting the state into ever expanding debt leverage.

[Anonymous No.50060329]

>>50060204
Absolutely nothing wrong with a man wearing a stainless steele watch. Only women and fags wear golden watches.
But the brand matters.

[Anonymous No.50060377]

>>50060329
>Only women and fags wear golden watches.
Okay poor

[Anonymous No.50060421]

>>50056333
Checked

[Anonymous No.50060483]

>>50060377
my rolex submariner is priced at 8.500$, and will maintain that value if not increase.
while some faggy goldwatch with less than an ounce of gold in it, will cost you 5k and be worth not even spot price after 5 years.
You do the math.

[Anonymous No.50060548]

>>50059878
It’s not even a stock

[Anonymous No.50060777]

>>50060483
Rolex makes gold watches, anon.

[Anonymous No.50060863]

>>50060777
Checkd. But now you go check the price.
A yellow submarine, golden submariner, costs upwards of 30k for 150g of 18k.
While the exact same watch, costs you 8.5k.
Why wouldn't I just buy 5 ounces of gold at spot price, and keep my steel rolex?

[Anonymous No.50060913]

>watch faggotry
well this /pmg/ officially blows
better luck next thread

[Anonymous No.50061025]

>>50060913
>seething notimer

[Anonymous No.50061265]

Should I buy another 20oz of silver or another gun

[Anonymous No.50061320]

>>50061265

can you dual wield the exact same pistol yet? if not, then you know what to buy

[Anonymous No.50061324]

>>50060139
The article you referenced is full of nonsense. It references the debunked "fractional reserve" model, and the fake "money multiplier effect."

In fact, banks simply create new. digital money out of thin air when they issue loans. Banks create this new money with no need for prior reserves or deposits. Banks create new money AFTER the borrower signs the loan contract. Compare these facts to the "fractional reserve/money multiplier effect" models that pretend the money being lent exists in an account before the borrower arrives.

Richard Werner scientifically disproved the Fractional Reserve/money multiplier model in 2014.

[Anonymous No.50061385]

Geiger is doing JM bullion squares now. If I was buying with my next check I'd be picking some of these up.

[Anonymous No.50061412]

>>50061265
Oddly enough I was thinking of selling a gun just to buy more silver at these prices. I probably wont, but the thought crossed my mind.

[Anonymous No.50061442]

>>50057491
Its the price of gold over the course of a year, showing that fiat is depreciating in spending power.

[Anonymous No.50061581]

>>50060863
You can do whatever you want with your money, anon.
I'm saying Rolex watches also hold their value.

[Anonymous No.50061627]

>>50057822
glad im not the only person with this issue

[Anonymous No.50061653]

>>50060056
Yes, and
yes for me, because I bought them a decade ago when they were about $1k each. I haven't bought any recently, so I'd say at this point, no.

[Anonymous No.50061690]

>>50061385
Is anyone else having problems seeing some images at their full resolution? Anon's is one that just won't expand or open in a new window.
Firefox or Chrome. About a third of the images won't, not just on /biz/.

[Anonymous No.50061736]

>>50057235
yeah, until Jul 01. I saw them post about it before it disappeared.

[Anonymous No.50062090]

>>50060056
Yes
It is quite literally insane how platinum less than a quarter of it's all time high in these times, while being over 10x rarer than above ground gold vaults
There is a reason that platinum eagles are valued at literally $100 dollars by the US mint and the gold eagles a mere $50 dollars
it would be foolish to say the least to not be a platinum bro with today's prices and ridiculously low premiums for platinum bullion

[Anonymous No.50062096]

>Parents say that l need to finally decide to go back to school and stop spending the money l make at my dead-end job on PM's
What the fuck should l do, bros?

[Anonymous No.50062124]

>>50062096
do what this video says
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNf97XgBdTc
but instead of using bitcoin replace it with the words "precious metals"
>kek, nah but seriously maybe you should find a way to make passive income or something to better fund pms spending if your parents are worried about you desu

[Anonymous No.50062186]

>there are actual unironic Nazis ITT
>they genuinely believe Hitler loved sound money and the gold standard
>they ignore all evidence that he continually devalued the currency in secret for most of his reign

[Anonymous No.50062187]

>>50062096
>Parents say
Given that you're posing this question on a forum that promotes with fanatic zeal to stack PMs, I think you already have the answer you want in your head.

[Anonymous No.50062273]

>>50062187
I don't pay rent.

[Anonymous No.50062345]

>>50062186
Hitler was anti-bank and pro-sound money BEFORE getting into power. Early on he was a student of an anti-banking activist named Feder.

But when Hitler got into power in 1933, he sidelined Feder and instead put pro-banking advocate Schacht into power.

Money creation in the Nazi system was the same as the Weimar Republic and similar to our system today: PRIVATE BANKS created all the money when they issued loans, and the Central Bank (The Reichsbank) was privately-owned.

[Anonymous No.50062436]

>>50061385
i wish i liked JM more. i order from them, but i don't care for their logo on my metal.

[Anonymous No.50062892]

>>50062186
There are some people who like Hitler that also understand he was human and wasn't right about everything.

[Anonymous No.50062976]

jesus fucking christ this general is trash in an irredeemable way
>significant percentage of non ironic national SOCIALISTS
>christian fundamentalists
>literal faggot pushing dimes that arent mercs

[Anonymous No.50063044]

>>50062976
Where's the problem?

[Anonymous No.50063049]

>>50062976
>SOCIALISTS
Except I dont want to share with the negro children, I only want to share my toys with other white kids such as myself.
Context is relevant anon.

[Anonymous No.50063069]

>>50062096
Fuck em, our goals are beyond their comprehension.

[Anonymous No.50063070]

>>50062345
>instead put pro-banking advocate Schacht into power.

Holy fuck no he didn't. Garbage post.

[Anonymous No.50063086]

>>50061265
Only if its a 1911.

[Anonymous No.50063117]

>>50055860
Those are rookie numbers.

[Anonymous No.50063178]

>>50063069
>Dad says that l need to go back to school to become some sort of financial expert and then l'll get some sort of cushy office job making 6 figs a year because apparently lm the only person in the entire fucking universe that's capable of understanding why stacking silver is important.
>If l don't go back to school this fall, he'll kick me out.
I cannot believe how much of a delusional boomer my Father is even though he's gen x, he's working a minimum wage job just to scrape by just like l am and mom is the only person contributing to the mortgage working a 40k a year job.

[Anonymous No.50063180]

Where the silver price goin.

Sub $20?

[Anonymous No.50063184]

>>50063049
People always seem to forget the "national" part.

[Anonymous No.50063190]

>>50051969
your post inspired me to get that assad note, just copped.
my eternal quest for 5 Mark 1871-1914 continues, it's a shame many sellers apparently sell reprints of them without notice. Just got one in the mail yesterday, very dirty ping compared to the original or an ASE. I'm sending that shit right back, WILL get my money back and left a bad review. fucking niggers I tell you. but there's always the off-chance you get a real cheapie from some idiot who genuinely doesn't know what he has there.

[Anonymous No.50063287]

>>50060421
gonna make it

[Anonymous No.50063362]

>>50051576
cringe

[Anonymous No.50064176]

pg8 bump

[Anonymous No.50064309]

new gold in the mail, hopefully the package has actually arrived at the distributor today
>>50062186
based von mises poster, even if the man himself was incredibly wrong
it's very funny how much in bed with the bankers the omg le based endlösing gepillt dritten reich was. and with the krupp family
>>50051576
thor isn't a war god, that would be tyr. fucking norseboos. it even happens today but even worse, pic related

[Anonymous No.50064365]

I keep buying junk silver. Have an assortment of kennedys, krugs, Canadian in the mail. Taking too long, I want to do a new stacklet pic after sorting into piles by country.

Probs stop buying junk soon and refocus on 1oz. You inadvertently spend more than you think with assorted postage seven if you get stuff as close to spot as you can.

[Anonymous No.50064631]

I've asked this question before here but never got an answer so I'm hoping it will be answered this time. What was the average percentage for silver premiums before they went as high as they are today? As someone who only jumped onto the precious metals bandwagon a few months ago I have no idea what they were back then. State where you're from as I imagine premium percentages vary depending on country.

[Anonymous No.50064706]

>>50051924

[Anonymous No.50064750]

https://schiffgold.com/key-gold-news/goldman-sachs-raises-2022-gold-price-target-to-2500/

[Anonymous No.50064769]

People seem to appreciate real world metal interactions being shared, here is one I had recently:
>Short on cash but has metal
>Ask LCS how much they want to hold my coin like a pawn shop for ((just two weeks)), offer $20 in a sell-buyback.
>Am given more than spot value
>Buyback price is zero interest
Your results may vary but the boomer kike coin shop owner meme is not the only experience to be had out there. Better than cash or a payday loan, metal is to the point where its interchangable with fiat rather freely. Just used stack like a savings account, feels bad to need to but feels good that I can.

[Anonymous No.50064898]

>>50064750
$2500 gold sounds comfy
>>50064769
damn, I need to find a place like that in town

[Anonymous No.50064903]

Is it too late to buy gold?

[Anonymous No.50064912]

>>50051547
1toz gold, the rest in silver

[Anonymous No.50064939]

>>50051547
buy $2500 of each

[Anonymous No.50064991]

>>50064750
For us Brits that should be around £2056.

[Anonymous No.50064999]

>>50064903
Also, is gold the best choice for preserving wealth for the future? I don't care about making profit, or even matching inflation. I just want something that will perform better than fiat cash which is losing value every day

[Anonymous No.50065064]

>>50064903
>Is it too late to buy gold?
No, but the train is about to leave. Now is the best time, latest I forecast the end of summer when things begin to ramp up.

[Anonymous No.50065316]

where can I buy Cesium?

[Anonymous No.50065461]

>>50065064
>No, but the train is about to leave

How long would you say we have? Two more weeks?

[Anonymous No.50065535]

>>50065461
End of summer is about four weeks. Things will start to rise when people start preparing for winter by igniting their central heating boilers.

[Anonymous No.50065554]

>>50065535
It's mad that people turn the heating on before it drops to 5c. Last winter I didn't have any heating at all and wasn't cold.

[Anonymous No.50065602]

>>50065554
Women wear blankets in the fucking summer, who do you think wacks the heating on in September.

[Anonymous No.50066229]

>>50065535
>end of summer in 4 weeks
>july 28th
?????

[Anonymous No.50066617]

>>50066229
Hahaha holy shit, I don't know why I was thinking we're at the end of July already.

[Anonymous No.50066626]

>>50064631
junk amd 40% were spot to .29 cents per ounce premium.

generics were .59 cents to .99 over soot per ounce

ase were like 1.99 to 3.99 over spot

[Anonymous No.50066676]

>>50066626
>ase were like 1.99 to 3.99 over spot
What year?

[Anonymous No.50066677]

>>50065316
Ligma-Aldrich

[Anonymous No.50066690]

>>50066617
Gold and silver are worthless, they will not save you from the impending collapse. In dire times you need to have food, ammo and tangible assets like Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.50066725]

>>50052027
Anyone can see exactly what he's talking about by checking the archive he linked: https://archived.moe/biz/thread/50048504

>>50052162
He was posting "le based christian" coins, which have the name of the jewish god Yahweh on them in jew-letters. That triggers JIDF agents immensely: they don't want anons to see such coins, since it ruins their kosher NPC image of Christianity as "non-jewish" / "anti-jewish" that they want us to have (it's the same with Islam btw, the jews are totally cool with you thinking it's anti-jewish and pro-european).

[Anonymous No.50066764]

>>50051547
Both but don't blow it all at once (unless you don't give a shit about the 5k). These are weird times and I would not be surprised if the whole shit dips before we go up. Who knows. It won't suddenly dump and it won't suddenly moon so why hurry? As long as you built a solid position over time.

I've been investing PM's for half a year now and am now at 3 rolls of generics and 2 ounces of gold.

[Anonymous No.50066824]

>>50066676
before the covidioticy

been stacking since 2014

[Anonymous No.50066867]

>>50066690
>tangible assets like Bitcoin

[Anonymous No.50066892]

>>50066824
Can you give me a bit of a specific year, this will help me work out the percentage as I can look back through the history of silver and get a decent estimate.

[Anonymous No.50066922]

>>50063362
>cringe

[Anonymous No.50066958]

talking about 1% rate increase now. everyone laughing about butcoin bubble and how over leveraged people were to place their cash into it. now that fed raising rates the money flies out of the bubble. with spot dropping, cant i assume the same was happening with silver? how much funny money was propping up spot prkce close to 28 dollars? if money is fleeing crypto and silver, where on earth is it going. fucking bonds?

[Anonymous No.50066996]

>>50059878
>bitcoin is not hard money, sweetie
>it is a speculative tech stock
no anon, bitcoin is a commodity, that's why it goes down as the supply is sold off, just like gold

>>50059909
thanks anon

>>50060204
>He said he wore his wealth, and posted an image of a $100 seiko with a pvc band
i was posting my chain, some autist focused on the watch

[Anonymous No.50067018]

sub $20?

[Anonymous No.50067048]

>>50051466
>if only you knew, how Frosty things could be

[Anonymous No.50067156]

>>50066996
ok, ive read a bunch if your posts and youre just wrong on, well a lot but i couldnt let this point stand

> bitcoin is a commodity

commodities have utilities and end uses; what is bitcoin used for?

[Anonymous No.50067234]

>>50066958
there will be an initial pull back as money leaves speculative spaces and fills those that are considered traditional hedges

but 2 things to consider
1) this isnt going to be an 08 style crash where those holding cash can get cheapies because hyperinflation will kill the usd
2) commodity (metals) prices follow oil and gas pretty good in the long run; do you see the price of gas dropping anytime soon or ever?

[Anonymous No.50067256]

>>50066996
>no anon, bitcoin is a commodity, that's why it goes down as the supply is sold off, just like gold

Gold is an actual physical element with real life applications. Bitcoin only mimics the scarcity of gold mining, while I can just copy the source code and put my own bitcoin to the market. Everyone can. You can even change the rules if you want and make it even more scarce. You can't do that with real element, because it's still going to be scarce, with real life applications and physical nature. You can't change the facts even if you manage to turn everybody's mind about gold and we completely stop using it on anything.

[Anonymous No.50067277]

>>50064769
this is why pimps and criminals wore/wear chains

they get arrested they can use it as collateral for the bond

[Anonymous No.50067296]

>>50066892
the premiums were consistent between 2015 and 2018 so just use 2017

[Anonymous No.50067360]

>>50067156
>commodities have utilities and end uses; what is bitcoin used for?
fast settlement of limitless funds from anyone to anyone with no geographic limitations with little-to-no ability for (((anyone))) to interfere if done correctly

i make all my PM trades with bitcoin

>>50067256
>You can even change the rules if you want and make it even more scarce
no, not really
anyways, can you send a million dollars worth of gold to someone across the country in minutes?

i think gold, silver, and bitcoin all have use

[Anonymous No.50067440]

>>50067360
>word salad describing bitcoin as an electronic IOU

its not a commodity

[Anonymous No.50067474]

>>50066677
thanks.
though it's expensive af over there.
there are offers on Ebay and Amazon at less than half the price

[Anonymous No.50067488]

>>50067296
>the premiums were consistent between 2015 and 2018 so just use 2017

Cheers.

Well the calculation I got was 18% over spot.

3 ÷ $16.61 spot price (24th May 2017)
= 0.1806140878988561 x 100
= 18.06140878988561

Premium is higher than I thought it would be, I was expecting 10% or lower.

[Anonymous No.50067507]

>>50067440
>electronic IOU
no anon, that's what the current cash system is; that's why i said SETTLEMENT

bitcoin is the opposite of an IOU, you have final settlement of funds within 30min

any bank transaction you make is 3-5 days to settle, no matter what electronic IOU numbers you see on your screen

[Anonymous No.50067561]

>>50067507
no, it is an IOU or havent you heard?

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2022/06/24/coinbase-launches-first-crypto-derivatives-product-aimed-at-retail-traders/

or perhaps an electronic bearer bond would be a better definition? either way, it is by no means a commodity and never will be by definition

that said id rather not distract from this general too much with ponzi schemes (crypto) as this general is for real money, so back to the point at order, bitcoin is not a commodity

[Anonymous No.50067577]

>>50067488
ya, but keep in mind that the dealers use to actually have to compete and the margins were slim, so there would be flash sales all the time

i have gotten secondary market american eagles at spot believe it or not

[Anonymous No.50067674]

>>50067577
>there would be flash sales all the time
Give me an example of a silver sale of yours doing this.


>i have gotten secondary market american eagles at spot believe it or not
That's second hand though, what I'm trying to do is to get a general idea what the premiums were before they inflated and where geographically. I'm from the UK and have only been collecting precious metals for a few months so I'm trying to gauge what things will go down to pre covid and pre silver squeeze attempt not too long ago.

[Anonymous No.50067675]

Mommy has fucking $150,000 in cash sitting in bank account doing NOTHING. I've been trying to encourage her to invest, but she just says things like "you've sprung this on me" (I've been telling her for years), "I'm too tired today" (she's always too tired for investing, but never too tired to shoplift low value items from walmart), "Not while I'm eating" (she's overweight and always eating), or the favorite "stop pressuring me!" when I point out the flaws in all her excuses. How the FUCK do I make her invest this cash into something sensible?

[Anonymous No.50067711]

>>50067675
Tell her to just invest some of her money into precious metals. $15,000 is nothing to diverse her portfolio but I recommend it being gold as the premiums are way lower than silver. At the end of the day, you just want her to put some aside for the storm that is coming.

[Anonymous No.50067715]

>>50067561
what you linked is the same thing as gold or silver paper futures; do you consider gold and silver an IOU because a paper form exists of it?

>ponzi scheme
any commodity that has a fixed supply is a "ponzi scheme" then; since gold and silver have a fixed supply, and thus can only increase in value over time, does that make them a ponzi scheme?
cmon anon, use your brain here

[Anonymous No.50067717]

>>50067674
>from UK

you have to figure in VAT, us burgers dont on silver sales usually so there may be a disassociation right there but in general the premiums were 29 cents to 1 dollar over spot for generic and as high as 1.99 to 2.99 for gov coins

price at the time wad hovering around 14-19 bucks so id say 16 dollars per ounce was a good average with a .50-$1 premium per troy ounce

[Anonymous No.50067757]

>>50067234
no, but no guarantee silver follows them, youre just saying that. i dont disagree, but when will that finally happen? after we all have to sell our stack in order to afford calories?

[Anonymous No.50067780]

>>50067715
>bitcoin maxi has feels hurt

yes, i very much consider the paper derivative market to be bullshit, the physical does not.

stop hyper focusing on the IOU aspect, i said we can call it al electronic bearer bond if you prefer. fact is its not a commodity because you cant use bitcoin for anything other than electronic financial transactions

>fixed supply
until folks like JPM and coinbase say they have more bitcoin to trade than physically exists. the entire allure of bitcoin was it was decentralized and with the SEC anointing investing firms with the power of money printing that 1 favorable thing about bitcoin was destroyed IMO

[Anonymous No.50067810]

>>50067757
the price of gasoline and the price of silver have been pretty much in tandem since the 50s

if we are talking about hedging our bets because everyone will be poor then precious metals just make sense. and i would never suggest going 100% into any asset class, but out of crypto, stocks, and the real estate bubble that exists my confidence is in silver and gold

[Anonymous No.50067817]

what is a good price to pay for a 5 reichsmark? i am looking to get some

[Anonymous No.50067825]

>>50067675
just stop talking to her about it

boomers are a dense group who believe their worth is based in tenure and not merit, so they wont listen to reasonable positions from someone they view as their inferior

[Anonymous No.50067846]

>>50063184
pretty easy to when youve never really had your own nation to be proud of

[Anonymous No.50067860]

>>50051466
requesting that the pasta adds Aussie bullion dealers. ty.

[Anonymous No.50067866]

finally my gold arrived. a 22K Krug and a 24K Wiener Philharmoniker
>>50067474
desu I wouldn't want to have Cs around. it's reactive as fuck, and you *will* accidentally break that ampoule eventually. also it's going to be hard to liquidate (pun slightly intended). pretty tho
>>50067675
tell her to put some of it into an index fund. that should be easy. then maybe you can get her to put say $10-20k into PMs

[Anonymous No.50067878]

>>50062090
this

platinum is more speculative to me but has the highest chance of upswings

[Anonymous No.50067912]

the only thing platinum does is go down

[Anonymous No.50067952]

>>50067440
legally is defined as one fyi

[Anonymous No.50068006]

>>50067952
no, its classed as an asset

it would be a speculative asset when you sell for the purposes of reporting CGT

dont be a fucking retard, literally go type in "define commodity" read it, and come back

[Anonymous No.50068013]

>>50067866
i dont know why people hate on phillies, beautiful coin

[Anonymous No.50068029]

>>50068006
in the us, sec has categorized crypto as a commodity, im not saying it is one or isnt one

[Anonymous No.50068057]

Also I don't know whether to buy more gold or a new (to me) hilux. The incoming inflation should also increase car prices and I need something reliable.

[Anonymous No.50068058]

>>50067717
>you have to figure in VAT
It has already been discussed in this thread that VAT can be avoided by buying second hand silver.

[Anonymous No.50068079]

>>50067440
>its not a commodity
it takes labour to produce. it is useful. it can be bought and sold. therefore it is a commodity
>>50067912
short Pt then
>>50068013
it really is, lack of pronking ungulate aside. here it is with some more gold and my 5kg silver bar

[Anonymous No.50068145]

>>50067717
>in general the premiums were 29 cents to 1 dollar over spot for generic

Aren't generics alloy silver coins though? That muddies the value when talking about spot vs premiums which is why I focused on ASE as those are 999.9% silver.

[Anonymous No.50068186]

>>50068029

ohh yes, the SEC calling it that so they can regulate it must make it so lol

when it is sold it is treated as any other asset class currently subject to capital gains tax scheme

i imagine they will need(ed) to classify it as such but that doesnt make it a commodity by definition.

and lastly, this seems to be a very recentstory still. id like to see how it plays out when someone says "fuck you SEC, it is not what you define it as and i will see you in court"

that is usually how the alphabet regulatory bodies work, they issue and opinion and start enforcing it until they get sued in court or another gov branch steps in

[Anonymous No.50068345]

>>50068145
>Aren't generics alloy silver coins though?
What? Who told you that?

[Anonymous No.50068450]

>>50067780
anon do you own bitcoin? i was pretty opposed to ~crypto~ until i actually educated myself on why bitcoin was different than the rest of the scammy cryptos
i truly believe its revolutionary and the closest modern equiv to gold

>until folks like JPM and coinbase say they have more bitcoin to trade than physically exists
easily verifiable and deboonked

>>50067866
>24K Wiener Philharmoniker
oh no no no

[Anonymous No.50068463]

>>50068450
>i truly believe its revolutionary and the closest modern equiv to gold
enjoy being a faith-based poor, then

[Anonymous No.50068507]

>>50064309
>even if the man himself was incredibly wrong
mises was right, actually.
http://web.archive.org/web/20050124015625/http://www.reason.com/hod/db012105.shtml

[Anonymous No.50068630]

>>50068450
>oh no no no
elaborate
>>50068507
lol

[Anonymous No.50068918]

>>50067717
>so id say 16 dollars per ounce was a good average with a .50-$1 premium per troy ounce

I decided to do $16 with $1 premium, which results in 6.25% above spot. With this sum I went and typed it in my search engine I didn't find any web pages documenting this premium percentage. I really do find it hard to believe that before the high premiums that it was on average below 10%. I think the reason for this in comparison to gold is that the handling and shipping in conjunction with how much more abundant silver is adds more overall costs. I'll believe it when I see it when it comes to silver premiums being below 10% on average because as for now the lowest is 18%.

[Anonymous No.50069137]

can silver just go below 20 already so I can buy more

[Anonymous No.50069143]

>>50068918
>I really do find it hard to believe that before the high premiums that it was on average below 10%

For what it's worth, at a LCS in December 2019 I remember junk silver coins selling for 13.5x face and their 10oz bars were $175 each. Spot price fluctuated between $17-18 in December '19, I don't remember the specific day I was in there but do remember those prices.

In February 2020 I took advantage of some online sales where JMB was selling 10x 1oz buffalo rounds for spot with free shipping, and SD Bullion had a 5oz bar at spot sale going on at the same time.

[Anonymous No.50069220]

>>50068186
might makes right, hard lesson to learn

[Anonymous No.50069233]

>>50064365
>Canadian junk
Excellent. I approve.
>>50064769
Cozy.
>>50062096
Why do your parents know the extent of your stack?
>>50064999
Check these.
Yes gold is good to hold. Dollars and such rot away like so much uneaten fruit.
>>50067048
I still would like to find a frosty and mint state coin in the wild. Found some blast white lately.

[Anonymous No.50069267]

>>50068630
he heard someone hate phillies because they dont have reeded edge like this is ancient rome and coin clipping is still a thing, decided to repeat the meme to fit in

[Anonymous No.50069270]

UK bros, is this a reasonable price or am I getting gouged? I know nothing about gold but I'm ready to drop £5,000 on coins as a long term investment

[Anonymous No.50069286]

anyone buying monument metals maple deal?

[Anonymous No.50069387]

>>50055973
why would you ever carry your stack with you?

[Anonymous No.50069863]

>when inflation is the highest its ever been
>silber sharting the bed, as per usual, for the last 100 years

Has there ever been an asset more specifically designed to destroy wealth and value than silber?

[Anonymous No.50070287]

>>50051779
>I can get silver for spot price with no extra charges
No you can't you lying fuck.

[Anonymous No.50070479]

>>50053149
NSDAP era Reichspfennings are superior to Reichsmarks because they don't have that huge, ugly, square-headed profile of Hindenburg** on them. Fight me.

**(no disrespect to the man, but the coin is god awful. But yes, I still have about 60 of them.....)

[Anonymous No.50070560]

>>50064903
of course not.

[Anonymous No.50070581]

>>50057253
>>50059909
shilling fingers may indeed be a faggot jew, but at least he bakes.

[Anonymous No.50070611]

>>50055368
holy fuck, that's beautiful.
Wat is?

[Anonymous No.50070651]

>>50070611
napoleons angel
angel statues "guard" napoleons tomb

[Anonymous No.50070813]

How's everyone's garden doing this morning? I'm going to make and fill a few compost cages today, I've learned that potatoes absolutely love growing in deep beds of fluffy compost so want to have a lot more, never seen yields from soil-grown potatoes match my compost taters.

>>50070287
>No you can't

Lol, lmao.

[Anonymous No.50070827]

>>50065316
It's quite a list. Here's a warnign to you penny guys: Cu is not on the list:
"The 2022 final list of critical minerals, which revises the final list published by the Secretary in 2018, includes the following 50 minerals: Aluminum, antimony, arsenic, barite, beryllium, bismuth, cerium, cesium, chromium, cobalt, dysprosium, erbium, europium, fluorspar, gadolinium, gallium, germanium, graphite, hafnium, holmium, indium, iridium, lanthanum, lithium, lutetium, magnesium, manganese, neodymium, nickel, niobium, palladium, platinum, praseodymium, rhodium, rubidium, ruthenium, samarium, scandium, tantalum, tellurium, terbium, thulium, tin, titanium, tungsten, vanadium, ytterbium, yttrium, zinc, and zirconium."

[Anonymous No.50070873]

>>50070827
>tin

Hell yeah, pewterchads WAGMI

[Anonymous No.50071004]

canadian BU silver dollars just above 26 dollars per ozt on apmex right now, seems like a way better deal than us constitutional premiums

[Anonymous No.50071056]

>>50067817
5RM coins routinely sell on ebay for about $22-$26, or about $60/oz. Despite the cost, I seem to keep buying them....
2RM tend to be a bit more expensive, but at the same $/oz, you should pay no more that about $10 for one.

[Anonymous No.50071096]

>>50067912
>the only thing platinum does is go down
No, you're thinking of OP's mom.

[Anonymous No.50071103]

>>50070873
Pan Man has mentioned tin as a sleeper before, too. So far best price I've found, $50/lb avdp, in quantity:
https://www.metalshipper.com/tin-ingot.html

[Anonymous No.50071126]

>>50071056
5RMs are worth every penny in premium
2RMs are meh, too small imo

[Anonymous No.50071131]

>>50067866
na it's okay bro. I'll juste be careful.
but if tin is also on that US list like >>50070827 said, then it's less exciting and maybe I'm just falling for fake hype.

[Anonymous No.50071139]

>>50071103
there is a seller on etsy doing 1lb bars for like 20 each

[Anonymous No.50071141]

>>50071103
Dammit - that's a 2-lb ingot. $25/lb.

[Anonymous No.50071143]

>>50069137
spot may be going down, but market price really isn't.

Krugs (the standard, imo) are still ~$28 from all major online dealers.

[Anonymous No.50071168]

>>50071139
Link? I'm not stacking, but someone might like to know. Even the $25 is a price drop or sale.
>>50071141

[Anonymous No.50071198]

>>50070651
thanks, nigger.

[Anonymous No.50071232]

>>50070651
Oh...
It has the lizard queen on the other side.
>sadface.jpg

[Anonymous No.50071243]

>>50060139
It's very simple: money (at least per the modern contentions) is inherently debt, and since debt comes with interest, you need a growing monetary base in order to pay off the interest as it comes due. However, this monetary base is itself new debt with new interest, etc etc. Essentially you need an ever expanding economy and money supply, otherwise you get a deflationary crash. This is one of those broken clock situations where Marxists are actually correct desu.

[Anonymous No.50071352]

>>50071243
>he said marx was correct about something. GET HIM

[Anonymous No.50071372]

>>50071232
what were you expecting

[Anonymous No.50071391]

>>50071131
>if tin is also on that US list
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2022-02-24/pdf/2022-04027.pdf

[Anonymous No.50071402]

>>50071143
gov coins are high but rounds are down. monument has pre order maple deal, unheard of prices right now

[Anonymous No.50071578]

>>50071141
>Dammit - that's a 2-lb ingot. $25/lb

While pure is ideal, I and a few other anons stick to opportunistic purchasing of cheap scrap pewter. Got 1.73kg for $12 yesterday to add to the hoard. Besides tin which is 92-97% of the alloy Antimony is the majority of the remainder which is also on the strategic element list.

[Anonymous No.50071612]

>>50071402
>pre order

[Anonymous No.50071665]

anyone follow the industry? i knew jm bullion bought silver.com and provident metals but i didnt know a-mark (wholesaler) purchased jm bullion last year. looks like they also bought a large stake in silvergoldbull. i like shopping around for different prices and offerings but that is going to be 4 large online dealers that are secretly the same company. i dont like it or the vertical integration

[Anonymous No.50071693]

>>50071612
ive pre ordered things if the price is right. whats wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.50071707]

>328 replies, bump limit passed

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[Anonymous No.50071801]

>>50071665
I have not thought about this and probably should. If you find anything suspect please post.
>I generally shop at private coin dealers

[Anonymous No.50071809]

>>50071243
anon the money supply expanding doesn't necessarily mean that the economy is expanding. you only need as much money as necessary for circulation to function. one reason why inflation is even a thing is to force wagies to consoom
t. actual Marxist

[Anonymous No.50071865]

>>50071665
>i dont like it or the vertical integration

I saw salivate metal talking about it and agree that the centralization of bullion retailers is sus and undesirable. Not sure if schizo-tier shenanigans are afoot but it would definitely make it easier for Shlomo to turn off the tap and restrict plebs from being able to escape dying fiat if an undeniable currency/banking crisis arises.

[Anonymous No.50071883]

The price of gold seems inflated to me. What else can I buy that isn't?

[Anonymous No.50072143]

>>50071612
>pre order
I assume that's a question.
It means the dealer has none in stock, is taking advantage of the current low price, and he's offering to share that advantage. It helps him judge how much to order, minimizing his loss in case spot goes further down.

[Anonymous No.50072168]

>>50071883
Platinum. Silver. S&P index funds.

[Anonymous No.50072169]

>>50071143
I can get 100 oz bars from monument for 1.99 over spot, that seems like a killer deal to me.

[Anonymous No.50072718]

https://www.walmart.com/ip/1-oz-Silver-Round-Buffalo-Lot-Roll-Tube-of-20/414798207

Lowest was $480

[Anonymous No.50072970]

>>50072718
I tried to buy a tube yesterday and it was 'sold out'.
I'm going to sign up for a Wal Mart credit card and start buying exclusively through them. The savings are insane.

[Anonymous No.50073054]

>>50066725
Makes sense. JIDF are always monitoring these threads.

[Anonymous No.50073062]

>>50072970
I think wal mart is just APMEX sold through their website.

[Anonymous No.50073352]

>>50071809
>>50071243
Am I misreading Capital or was Marx unironically a proponent of bimetallism