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>finally get wfh job as self-taught developer
>do all my tasks on time, really go all out on improving my coding skills
>1 month passes

"anon, we think you are certainly comitted, but it seems like you aren't happy here, maybe you should be a freelancer a little bit more before we can colaborate, the team said you don't seem interested, like you are going faster with work than you can at the moment with your skillset"

What does this mean? I wasted a shitload of money on legal stuff to work for them and now I might get fucked? Was this because I didn't socialize on slack and other social media?

Anons...I don't know what to do...If I become unemployed again I'm fucked. I accrued debt and planned a year counting on this job

>> No.50002744

>>50002700
Your coworkers are seething because you're making them look bad in comparison.
Just answer that you're happy, any signs to the contrary are just miscommunications.

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>>50002700
>like you are going faster with work than you can at the moment with your skillset
this is such an over the top bullshit line that its apparent the absolute lack of respect they have for you

>> No.50002826 [DELETED] 

>>50002770
I'm a self taught. He brought up "lack of base".

I work harder than anyone there mate, I spend the whole day coding.

The fucking junior dev from my team sent me a task and said:

"This one's tricky, if you want to get an easier one to get started feel free to pass this one to someone with more experience :)"

And I said

"No thanks I want this one, I feel its better to get a hang of the codebase with this onee

I solved the task in 7 HOURS STRAIGGHT OF WORK

Solved the bug it all went great, I think the other dev was salty af though

And now this?? What the fuck do I do?

>> No.50002839

>>50002744
I said exactly this, its just miscommunications, etc.

>> No.50002854

>>50002770
I'm a self taught developer. He brought up "lack of base".

One time the junior dev from my team sent me a task and said:

"This one's tricky, if you want to get an easier one to get started feel free to pass this one to someone with more experience :)"

And I said "No thanks I want this one, I feel its better to get a hang of the codebase with this onee

I solved the task in 7 HOURS STRAIGGHT OF WORK

Solved the bug it all went great, I think the other dev was salty af though

And now this?? What the fuck do I do?

>> No.50002900

>>50002826
>I work harder than anyone there mate,
Im not saying you dont nor am i saying you are incompetent. Im saying they're passive-aggressively fucking with you because you're making them look bad. Nice to know office politics has devolved to literal 5 y/o shit.

>And now this?? What the fuck do I do?
Play along like >>50002744 says.

>> No.50002946

>>50002900
Yes, I gave them a very smiley-friendly talk about how this is a surprise to me, it is just miscommunication, etc. But fuck! I think I'm going to look for another job already

If I stretch 1 month to 4 months will any business try to see if its true?

>> No.50002955

>>50002700
senior software eng here. this one is tough to assess. are you missing emails, messages, and/or pr comments? are you rushing through things just to get them done and sacrificing quality in the process?

>> No.50003017

>>50002854
>>50002700
The bullshit on this one lmao

They imply youre not happy because you work.. too fast?

Sounds like they want you to communicate more with the coworker and ask for help, like you set, probably some dude seething that you achieved it without help

>> No.50003022

>>50002955
I missed a meeting, I didn't socialize on slack, I solved all PR comments.

I think I'm too objective, don't socialize enough. On my PR's the comments were like "Hey maybe you should implement this :)" and I'd just do the work and answer "Implemented."

Maybe I am rushing things, but I'm a junior, shouldn't my job be to build things as best as possible, and then refine it after some guidance?

>> No.50003042

>>50002946
>If I stretch 1 month to 4 months will any business try to see if its true?
Yea. I say stick it out for at least 6 months. At the very least you get a free chance to git gud at office politics while learning whatever else you can before you leave.

>> No.50003052

>>50002700
Just start slacking off. You'll be back in the good graces of corporate again in no time.
Corporate office culture rewards people who do nothing. Office Space was based on reality.

>> No.50003068

>>50002955
>>50002854
naw this is easy to solve.
as others have said, next time he talks with you, say you're happy and you've grown alot professionally/technically while working 'here' and you are grateful for the opportunity to work on such an innovative product.
>"like you are going faster with work than you can at the moment with your skillset"
Your boss and coworkers are saying you're not engaged.
so I would ask him, "are you saying I'm not engaged?"
and if he says yes, ask him to help you identify the behaviors of an engaged employee and then just do whatever thing he says.
If you do those 2 things, you won't get fired for at least 8+ months.

>> No.50003069

>>50003022
You are being weird and not friendly, people like working with normal friendly people. Why don't you try being nice and not a weird little cunt?

>> No.50003074

you perfectly know what you should do

launch minecraft

>> No.50003087

>>50003052
To my standards I was already slacking off...I was just sending tasks on the same day they were given to me, but I wasn't really focusing on productivity, I would take breaks and go out during work all the time

Still managed to do my job on time

Now this. I can't fucking believe it man. I just can't believe this is happening.

>>50003042
It's not my choice anon. How would I stay in the company if they just said they might fir me

>> No.50003097

>>50003022
>but I'm a junior, shouldn't my job be to build things as best as possible, and then refine it after some guidance?
no. Junior devs are not expected to do pretty much anything.
you're supposed to be dumb and not know what to do.
what you described is what a senior engineer does.

>> No.50003107

>>50003022
>and I'd just do the work and answer "Implemented."
Add a jokey little comment at the bare minimum

>> No.50003108

>>50003022
Based autist makes normies seethe

>> No.50003113

>>50003069
Can you please stop with microagressions on autists? You can go to reddit if you enjoy being a normie

>> No.50003126

>>50002700
>Was this because I didn't socialize on slack and other social media?
yes
"people" are soulless automatons, and "work" isn't about capitalism or anything other than make work to have annointed members of the ingroup get salaries. If you can't play the reindeer games you will have to become self employed or find a rare autism-safe company that cares more about work than socializing.

>> No.50003143

>>50003069
Found the HR lady who send Garfield memes about Mondays on slack.

>>50003068
The guy said If I had any doubts I could talk to him.

I'm thinking of asking for a meeting next time with my boss/a few coworkers so we can sort things out. Then go with this play? Is this my best card to play?

>> No.50003162

>>50003113
kek talking about microaggressions and telling ME to go to reddit, fuck off sperg

>> No.50003163

>>50002946
anon please literally stop working as hard. Finish your work but fuck off like a normal person and turn in your work at a time your co-workers would.

>> No.50003182

>>50003143
you actually found the mediocre senior dev who makes 195k and does <2 hours work a day

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>>50003107
Should I even try to stay in this company or just try to fuck off somewhere else and bullshit that I spent 4 months here?

>> No.50003198

>>50003143
no way, don't ask for a meeting, that would legitimize your boss'/coworker's concerns.
just wait for him to schedule a meeting again.
his job is to manage you. unless you work at amazon, you are totally fine.

>> No.50003223

>>50003198
agreed with this anon, don't make a scene by calling a meeting. Don't draw attention to yourself. Unless you wanna be the squeaky wheel

>> No.50003226

>>50003185
A junior who leaves a company even after 4 months is a pretty huge red flag.

>> No.50003241

>>50002744
This right here. Nothing pisses the old heads off more than a new guy coming in and outshining them and making them look bad. Ive had it happen a million times...now im the old head that gets pissed when these faggots come in here with something to prove. Like yea i remember when i was enthusiastic. We'll see how you fare after 3 years of 60 to 70 hr weeks and fucking mad max style road travel to and from work every day because of all the califags that have moved in. And you wonder why im jaded. Fucm the jews and their central banking slave system

>> No.50003292

>>50003022
>I missed a meeting, I didn't socialize on slack, I solved all PR comments.

1 meeting out of? If many, then who cares. Do they socialize on Slack a lot or a little? If a lot, then just throw comments here and there, I know its painful, but this kind of thing is important if you want to move up in this world. No one ever gives a fuck about the quiet ones, unless they are delivering a lot of the work. It's about delivering value, either in the form of technical work and/or "good times". Don't hate the player, hate the game.

>On my PR's the comments were like "Hey maybe you should implement this :)" and I'd just do the work and answer "Implemented."

This is fine, "Implemented" is a bit autistic, but shouldn't be a problem in the end.

>Maybe I am rushing things, but I'm a junior, shouldn't my job be to build things as best as possible, and then refine it after some guidance?
Yes build as best possible, but just remember it's not a race. As a senior engineer, I hate seeing low effort PRs where the engineer just throws things over the fence.

Again really hard to tell what the issue is without being there to observe. It sounds like you are being autistic as fuck and you work with normies. Learn to be a normie, it'll pay off in the end. Most autist I meet in the field never go far (unless they are the 10x and that doesn't sound like you yet).

>> No.50003303

>>50003108
It is funny how you hear all these fucking liberals talk about being open minded and faggots and niggers and non binary and pegging, and quirkiness but if somone is truly weird or autistic then they fucking want no part of it whatsoever. Like they supposedly support and love weird people, but only if youre some roastie who snorts zoloft while getting pounded every night of the week while seething sboit abortion, not genuinely weirdness. And they have the balls to lecture us on being open minded. Fucking go for the kill OP

>> No.50003318

>>50002700
Just tell them you're happy there and start sending laughing emojis when people send memes in the slack. You're welcome.

>> No.50003338

>>50002700
What’s the size of the company? Do you finish your tasks on time and to a high standard?

>> No.50003359

>>50003292
>Again really hard to tell what the issue is without being there to observe. It sounds like you are being autistic as fuck and you work with normies. Learn to be a normie, it'll pay off in the end. Most autist I meet in the field never go far (unless they are the 10x and that doesn't sound like you yet).

Could not agree more, you should listen to this advice OP

>> No.50003367

>>50003338
Small company <100 employees, yes I finished it all on slack.

>> No.50003380

>>50003367
*on time

>> No.50003385

>>50003359
Yeah, being autistic as fuck has gotten me fired from jobs.
That's why I'm doing Military OCS

>> No.50003398

I'm gonna hijack the thread.
I'm a junior that just started work in a well funded start-up, but the options they offered are a pittance, so small that they might have just as well offered nothing.
Now there's a recession on the horizon, which puts the company at risk.
Should I jump ship immediately and go work at a bank instead,
or work as little as possible for the next year, while improving my skills instead, at the risk of not having a job if the company goes bust and everyone is in a deep recession?
Something else?

>> No.50003415

>>50003022
Welcome to the gynocentric matriarchy, you like it? Emotionalism + Socialism before productivity. Every guy there that had issue with you socially is extremely effeminate. Being obsessed about social things and needing constant validation and rapport or you’ll break down is the sign of a woman, not a man. I don’t know how some of you “higher level” guys do it. I’m a saved man, King James Bible-believer. Saved by the Lord Jesus Christ. I keep to myself mostly and do some small talk here and there if I can about the work or something, asking for help. I tell you though you start witnessing about the Lord Jesus and speaking Biblical things and that’s a mega “normie” repellant anyway. If there’s one thing the world hates more than some autist it’s a Bible-believing Christian.

>> No.50003429

>>50002700
Ignore them. If they ask for a response, inform them you're perfectly content in the role you are at. if they fire you collect unemployment. They're probably trying to bait you into quitting or something.

>> No.50003449

>>50003359
pretty much, sounds like op is being autistic. i would suggest finding some friends at work, the way i do it is just find the most racist person and befriend them because they are usually the funny ones

>> No.50003500

>>50003415
take your fucking meds

>> No.50003517

>>50002700
This kind of thing happens everywhere anon. I ended up getting sent out on a deployment to an area that is typically another squadron's area of responsibility because that squadron was royally fucking up their training to the point where they were barely even able to do the bare minimum of their job. The program manager wanted to know what was going on, so I came out to do the job with the two guys they sent out and take notes to send back/identify shortfalls in their training.

Turns out it was indeed all fucked up and their were not doing a whole bunch of things and didn't even know how to do the basics of the basics, so I had to reteach them a ton of stuff AND stay behind by myself and do a shit ton of paperwork/research.

Lo and behold three weeks in, I'm getting pulled into a meeting with management because the female thought I was demeaning her (found out later through another crewmember that she was thinking about accusing me of misogyny), and I was threatened with being sent home. Of course the accusations were baseless, but apparently a big part of this was because I wasn't hanging out with my coworkers (see tired as fuck from working, retraining people on how to actually do their jobs, and all the extra admin shit that I'd been tasked with from back home).

After that, I basically stopped giving a shit beyond getting done what I needed to and stopped going out of my way to correct things that weren't going to get me in any trouble and spent a little more time hanging out with the crewmembers so that they didn't see me as some weird lizard person who just works and sleeps.

If you aren't personable (especially if there are women in the workplace), they WILL fuck you over because they see the workplace as their domain and will actively try to shunt you out if you don't play along with them.

Your skill only matters to a point. Management anywhere doesn't want to deal with drama, and if it can be dealt with by getting rid of you, they will.

>> No.50003535

>>50003415
>tfw female superiors have a little bit of autism
They’re friendly but love efficiency. Best of both worlds.

>> No.50003542

>>50003449
It's remote work. How would I find friends in remote work? It's a woke business, nobody is racist there

>>50003429
I work from a diferent company, they don't have to pay me shit

I've just talked with a family member and he told me to find the person who likes me in the company and try to talk to them and figure out whats going wrong, and not let the week pass without saying anything

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>He doesnt take naps all day like all of us remote workers
Get fucked I hate nerds like you. Making me look bad and shit.

>> No.50003566

>>50003542
dude you're overthinking this. Be more friendly in slack channel by just writing like a normalfag and you'll be fine. If you try and start getting eyes on you, then you're going to get fucking railed by HR for being an autistic weirdo. Don't go looking for "more work" to appease your kike bosses.

>> No.50003575

>>50003542
*country

>> No.50003596

>>50003566
I mean saying "Hey HR lady, bla bla bla so I didn't understand as well the problem, I'm not communicative enough or something, bla bla bla, whats going on"

>> No.50003631

>>50003596
If they don't schedule a meeting or anything looking for a response, keep your mouth fucking shut. That's it. Don't go looking for trouble. If you're worried that you're working too fast, then do what others do, stretch it out an extra day.

If you go looking for trouble, you're going to cause more problems than you solve. HR roasties are retarded but a company doesn't want to fire people who actually contribute it for no good reason.

>> No.50003636

>>50003542
Did they see you? Tell them youre black, you will work there forever.

>> No.50003660

>>50003636
I'm turbo white

>> No.50003684

>>50002700
>What does this mean?
You’re writing shitty code. Very common for newbie programmers. Features might work, but your implementations are probably a complete mess.

>> No.50003687
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>>50003303
The same people who preach open mindedness and tolerance are the most pathetic and vile people you’ll ever meet. They’ll claim they care for your happiness, but only what they think is your happiness. These people do not have a mind of their own.
>Don't hate the player, hate the game.
I quit the game years ago. You cannot win the game, there’s always a bigger fish. There’s only one winning move when playing in the world: Don’t play at all.

>John 8:23 KJV
“And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.”

>John 18:36 KJV
36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

James 4:4 KJV
4 Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.

Does anyone want what’s from above? Does anyone want to make the only winning move and escape hellfire? It’s not of the world, but it’s so much better and real than this world.

>1 Corinthians 2:9-10 KJV
9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.

>> No.50003690

>>50002700
He's literally telling you that you are trying too hard and that the result is that while you get many tasks completed, your code fucking sucks.

>> No.50003720

>>50002854
>Working for 7 hours straight
Yeah, you're a fucking troglodyte and I would fire you for producing shit code.

>> No.50003735

>>50003690
I'm thinking the way I can go forward is by just asking people a lot of bullshit.

>>50003720
Explain

>> No.50003753

>>50002700
>If I become unemployed

Meaning they haven't fired you yet?
As in, they want you to quit?

Are you retarded? Deny the accusations and don't quit.

If they want you out make them fire you

>> No.50003771

>>50003687
Nice. Whar crypto should I buy?

>> No.50003795

>>50003542
Nobody wants to deal with there as well. Keep your head down, do your work. If they come to you just tell them you have autism (like Greta megasoy) but didn't want to discriminated/put in a box for it (tell the roastie some garbage story how you had to deal with it in the past). Otherwise be friendly when they come to you and if possible, turn someone into a canary like your senpai suggested

>> No.50003808

>>50002700
You're literally working too hard. Try working 2 hours a day and watching netflix the rest of it.

Works for me.

>> No.50003818

>>50003226
why would he even mention it in his cv? 4 months is not that weird of an amount of time to be unemployed today, or just say you worked 4 months more at your last job.

>> No.50003822

>>50003735
Codemonkeys produce highest quality code during the first 2 hours of work/after good breaks.
After that its just Pajeet-tier spaghetti. I'm personally very strict on not letting our monkeys pull long shifts or work for more than 2-3hours max at time.

>> No.50003872

>>50003753
I'm not fired yet, they told me to relax for this week and next week we meet again, for a "joint decision" or something like that

Of course I denied everything.

>>50003795
I'm thinking I'll just stay silent and do my thing. Talking to her probably won't better my situation because she already likes me a lot, she said I'm very colaborative actually, bothering her any more would only make things worse

It was these other guys from another team who basically said I work too much and am a fucking autist

>> No.50003918

>>50003818
Will other companys check? Can I bullshit my way from 1 month to 4 months experience?

>>50003822
That sounds reasonable. I didn't know that though, I thought coding was an area for autists, where you are given a task and are supposed to hammer away at it for the 8 hours you have.

>> No.50003946

>>50003771
I got some MATIC but that’s about it, I see potential In the crypto gaming scene. I imagine a big AAA game having a crypto as their payment method for micro transactions. Imagine a game like Call of Duty, implements their own crypto into the game, they create a tournament system where you can wager your crypto doing tournaments, etc. It goes much deeper of course. I just know there’s a lot of potential there.

Please be careful with your money, do not use more than you can afford to lose if you’ve made up your mind.

I am by no means a pro, and I haven’t had much success in the past.

>> No.50004023

I'm considering helping people who enjoy marijuana fullfill their needs in minecraft or something. This world is not for autists

>> No.50004032

>>50003946
Thanks

>> No.50004043

>>50002854
you're making the whole team's sprint velocity average a lot higher. management doesn't give a shit that it's just 1 mega-sperg, they'll just see the numbers and start expecting the same results from the entire team. no one on your team can explicitly tell you this because it can bite them fucking hard if it gets back to mgmt

and no one with any semblance of a life outside of work (hobbies, family, friends, wife, kids, passion projects, travel, etc.) has enough cognitive bandwidth to go "full autist 7 hours of straight work" in a work day

if you have even a somewhat knowledgeable team lead, they'll see you're increasing your likelihood of burnout in a few months time - which is right when you should be getting comfortable with everything and actually become an effective team member

>> No.50004047

>>50003241
This anon is 100% correct. I lost a couple really good jobs when I was younger because I was very green and over enthusiastic. I remember one of the more senior guys taking me aside one time and basically telling me I needed to relax and stop trying to do so much. At the time I thought these people were sabatoging me. But I realize now that they were trying to help me pace myself, and I was annoying the shit out the guys that had already been there 10+ years. They had nothing to prove, they just wanted to get through the day and go home. No one likes a hero

>> No.50004061

>>50003918
Try practicing and calculating maths for 8 hours.
I promise you that midway through you will be slower and make a crapton of mistakes.
And coding is (should be) constant algorithmic thinking.

>> No.50004096

Kek I’m a literal 60 IQ web developer and knew from the beginning if you get everyone to like you your job is secure

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>>50002700
>actually working hard instead of just doing the minimum while socializing and making people like you
lol retard. You didn't realize that highschool never ends?

>> No.50004119

>>50004047
Anon, maybe you'll think I'm bullshitting, but I just am good at coding. I can do this stuff really fast and learn stuff fast as well.

Believe me, I was slacking off - at least I thought I was

Apparently I have to slack off 5x what I do.

>>50004043
I have work and personal projects, and hobbies, and some bullshit course in uni. That's what I do. Besides that I don't do anything.

>> No.50004131

Just do your tasks for the sprint then play video games like a normal person

>> No.50004136

>>50002839
Ask them for help to improve

>> No.50004150

>>50002700
You probably pissed everyone off by getting things done too fast. Common mistake.

>> No.50004159

>>50004043
This, I fell into this trap a bit early in my career. You can channel this energy, but the way to do it is by working on projects out of band that make your boss/coworkers look good. But otherwise, match the velocity of your team. Don't try to be a 10xer. The reality is you probably lack experience about the codebase, and the senior engineers on the team simply don't have the bandwidth to carefully review the volume of changes you're churning out.

>> No.50004193

>>50003918
>Will other companys check? Can I bullshit my way from 1 month to 4 months experience?

Most companies never check anything regarding past experience, specially for something as small as a few months of experience, go for it. Just make the lies on your CV believable.

>> No.50004199

>>50004119
>Apparently I have to slack off 5x what I do.

yes this is what you're supposed to do

even go as far as submitting stuff late (as long as it's not critical and as long as it's correct). you will be shocked by how far you can push this with ZERO repercussions. you truly should limit test this early in your career

but if you NEED to be a workhorse, wait a few more months then identify the absolutely braindead mundane tasks your coworkers have and offer to take them on.

>> No.50004210

>>50004193
Some guy on a forum told me to look for another job and tell the company that I currently freelance for this company as well.

So basically, if I get fired, just say that I'm still in this company.

>> No.50004222

>>50004199
I would love to be a workhorse, just do my 8 hours and fuck off to my personal projects. This is what I did.

~6 hours of hard work every day, and then personal shit

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>>50003687
THE WORLD OR CHRIST JESUS! IT’S YOUR CHOICE! HAVE ETERNAL HOPE:

>Revelation 20:11 & 15 KJV
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
-
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Now if you have fear of this, of God... that's the way it is supposed to be, do not be deceived.

>Proverbs 9:10 KJV
10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

>How do i get saved?
Repent and believe the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, that He died for your sins, was buried, and resurrected from the dead the third day.

Repentance is simply a change of heart about yourself. It is written in 2 Corinthians 7:10 that 'godly sorrow' worketh repentance to salvation. It is to have sorrow towards God over what you ARE. The fact that YOU have sinned against God by breaking HIS law makes you a sinner against Him.
You were born corrupt, you are NO good according to scripture. Without Jesus Christ you are worthy and on your way to hell RIGHT NOW. Repentance can be summed up into simply: Coming to God as a sorry sinner...

Call upon and Recieve Jesus Christ as your PERSONAL Lord & Saviour and trust His shed blood on the cross for YOU, and believe that He resurrected.
STOP rejecting the one who DIED for YOU, the one who ROSE again. He is all which can justify a sinner in this time.

THE PASSWORD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arah-xtKCDc

>Romans 10:9-10 KJV
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
>10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

>1 Timothy 1:15 KJV
15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

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>>50004246
If anyone wants good sound Bible doctrine & truth i highly recommend this channel. Especially the preacher & teacher 'Peter Ruckman'.
The man of this channel 'upgrades' old or new good plain Bible teaching & preaching, making it higher quality, adds scriptures & visuals making it smother and easier to understand.

Here's some good videos to start of with:

>The Gospels of the King James Bible | A Further Study on Dispensationalism | Dr. Peter S. Ruckman
https://youtu.be/B4n9HwYY1xw
>Dr. Peter S. Ruckman | Beginning and Ending of History | With Maps!
https://youtu.be/UczKwsNRnww
>Peter S. Ruckman | Antichrist | Mark of the Beast | Words That End in X
https://youtu.be/guFsuSWw8bk
>Peter S. Ruckman | Leviathan | The Serpent | Satan | The Deeps
https://youtu.be/5AZQCWzhPTM

Above all, lean on the Lord.

John 16:13 KJV
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

>James 1:5 KJV
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

>> No.50004370

You're not a better developer than everyone else they're just not fucking bothered and you are. I've seen it a million times. Read the room, everyone is in on the scam of slacking off and you're not. Slow down and chill out or nobody will like you.

>> No.50004501

OP, you are young , immature, and inexperienced. It’s probably best you adopt an attitude closer to “Listening more, ask more clarifying questions, trying to understand the ask deeper(business impact), and seeking advice from your senior peers.” This will endure you to your coworkers.
Understand that it’s hard to adopt culture in a WfH vacuum but it goes both ways, they can’t see your hard work. Also understand that this experience will be something you look back on in 3 years as the hardest thing you’ve ever had to overcome. Then you can advise another anon because honestly did you think this would be a walk in the fucking park you stupid piece of shit? I can tell just from reading your arrogant spoiled baby comments about how you’re gods gift to your fucking team. Did you seriously think you deserve to live the wfh life without any experience in the biz?? You know nothing but here’s a tip: it’s called barriers to entry in school and the price is not being a fucking pussy know it all.

>> No.50004541

>>50004501
I'm naturally built this way, to just do my own thing, but I know you're right. Could you give me an example of a question to ask?

I literally don't know what to ask, because if I don't know how to do something I just google it and figure something out.

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>>50002700
you don't get it
the workplace isn't a place of work
it's an extension of high school

>> No.50004625

>>50003074

and grief their bases.

>> No.50004675

>>50003087
>to my standards I was already slacking off..
Then you need to raise... or lower your standards, or however it works in this case. kek
Slack harder, anon.

>> No.50004681

>>50004541
Now that I'm reading that answer I feel like we're somewhat similar. I was also always googling things instead of asking questions to colleagues.

The boomers at the office want to feel useful, so just ask questions. Also, practice active listening (asking questions, trying to stay engaged in the conversation, reformulating the issue. e.g. So if I understood correctly, what you want me to do is...)

>> No.50004692

>>50003107
>>50003226
>>50003318

It all makes sense to me. Single word responses sound like a robot in text form. Now you taking a suggestion could easily seem passive aggressive. People can't gauge your demeanor from one line responses remotely. It only takes a couple of these early on to mislead people as to how are interacting. just try adding some fluff into your conversation.

Beyond that, if your "base" skills are being mentioned, I would ask about that. The comment about going faster makes sense to me as well, I imagine being self taught you have some rough areas that are unorthodox. As an electrician, if I had a new junior guy that could indeed make a 3 way switch work but his wire stringing was sloppy/unorthodox, I would say his base skills are lacking and would figure he gets the mechanics but just needs more experience. Be direct, and be open for feedback. Maybe something like

>Hey, I was thinking about your message on x day, I just wanted some clarification - is there anything about how I'm coding that I should know? I would like some honest feedback, it is difficult to improve without it"

This will open the door for them to skip the play nice and don't actually say what you mean bullshit so that you can improve. As it is your first job in a new career you should be expecting this as part of the process. Don't let ego get in the way - this is your opportunity to gain experience and grow at a huge rate while getting paid for it.

>>50002700
Tagged so you see this

>> No.50004703

>>50003543
based nap chad. Just drank a beer and feeling a little sleepy myself. Ive done enough work today

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>>50004703
Man I wish I could today. I mean, obviously I'm doing the drinking part but we're having a big GO-LIVE so I've been at work since 7 monitoring that everything is going smoothly. Tomorrow I shall do absolutely fucking nothing to restore the balance.

>> No.50004830

>>50004541
Hey lazy bones why don’t you do some brainstorming and post back on what you THINK some good questions to ask are

>> No.50004874

>>50004692
The guy (he was one of the ones who hired me) told me to just chill out for a week and we talk on the next one.

My plan was to tell him on the date "Hey, I propose this, maybe we can get together with the team and have a talk and find some a way to move forward. I think this is still a short amount of time and we can find some common ground and see how it goes".

He said hes open to any questions, so maybe I should ask him about feedback from the team specifically?

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>>50003398
All I have to tell you anon is that when the music stops you better hope you're already sitting on a good chair

>> No.50004902

>>50004830
I think if I asked "How can I get the width of a nested css element from this obscure library printed out in React?" to a sênior dev he will just think im an annoying faggot

>> No.50004908

probably trying to cut costs and hoping you'd agree and quit since, new hires are the first to lay off. stick around but don't be surprised if they decide to get rid of you either way, at least you might get something as severance, and next time negotiate severance terms as part of your employment contract

>> No.50004920

>>50004908
My contract is as a freelancer, its remote. They can probably just cut ties and pay 0.

>> No.50004969

when i hired juniors as freelancers i probably hired a bunch of you. you shut in and "solve the task" which results in a total shit solution that has to be thown away because you barked up the wrong tree for days.

could end up a total money looser because you will have to rewrite all the code at some point, but if you just a mvp its worth it.

>> No.50004987

>>50003022
add google calander app to slack and dont miss any meetings. make a cats channel in slack and post your cat and if u dont have one then get a friends cat photo. invite all the devs and compliment their cats. keep making quality PRs. job secure

>> No.50005042

>>50004987
I have no cat and only 2 friends.

I'm thinking of just becoming a cop or something. I wasted so much money and time into this job just for it to come tumbling down.

Feels like I got scammed and wasted all my time. Honestly just want say fuck it all to this and become a government employee, and have a coding biz on the side.

>> No.50005050

>>50004902
“Could you give me a few pointers”
“What would you go to look that up”
“How long do you think this task should take me”
“When would you like this”
“Could you elaborate on your vision”
“What does success look like from the customer perspective “
“When do you need it by”


The idea is to capture what you need to do while asking for help planning the task and getting guidance. That can be for something small or big. The problem with you is lacking humility. You can only see the task and world from your perspective. When you grow that, you’ll be able to build closer relationships with the people you work with and they will be more willing to invest their time in your growth. Cap this.

>> No.50005066

>>50002946
Yeah. I've gotten copies of my background search results before. Many companies don't really do shit for a background check but some actually do. Some are very detailed. My last one about 1.5 years ago tried to reach my prior employer who I only worked for about 2 months. My prior employer never returned their calls or messages so they were never able to verify I worked there. Also, some tax records are actually public record - not the amounts filed but the dates of employment and with who are public I believe.

>> No.50005070

>>50004969
Bingo

>> No.50005097

Probably, or
>you are going faster with work than you can at the moment with your skillset
you're knocking out code that works without spending time socialising with the other developers, which means they are only going to give you discrete tasks and not ask for your input on pitches and new projects. You won't get to be a project lead, which is fine if you don't want it, but in that case you may as well build a career as a contractor billing hourly and specialising in niche apps which need ocassional revisions not a continual team.

Haven't been in IT for 15 years, so other anons may disagree but that's my old fart take.

>> No.50005113

>>50005050
Screenshotting this to start asking my bosses this shit.

If they don't fire me.

I think I'm going to join a gang or something. I'm not built for this man. I'm not built to post cat pictures and use emojis. I'm not built for this gay world.

Where can I just deal with naked assembly code for processors and not have to talk to anyone? Nowhere.

>> No.50005143

>>50004222
Try about two hours of productivity a day, lmao

>> No.50005201

Sounds like you're writing godawful code that, while solving the issues, is an unmaintainable, unscaleable mess.

>> No.50005266

>>50002700
OP read 48 laws of power, you broke the first rule.
Good luck faggot.

>> No.50005311

>>50005113
nigga its not about posting cat pictures and emojis, its about asking people who have a different perspective about inputs

you dont have to become some bluepillt basedcuck, you just have to "socialize" enought to not fuck up severly retard

i dont engage in all the cringe shit but i have been one of the most valued people at places where i worked at because people actually value when i reach out to them (because it must be important) but that means you HAVE to reach out sometimes, otherwise you are just a shut in sperg lmao

also as has been mentioned, ask for feedback and just the minimum to do what you have been asked for. bring it up in the next 1:1 or yearly review. that is all it takes lmao

>> No.50005518

>>50003918
When they check often all they’ll find out is the dates of employment. Don’t falsify that exact thing.
>Just spend more time learning skills and their work flow.

>> No.50005583

How do I kidnap anons like op?

>> No.50005629

>>50005583
Why, you be gay or somethin

>>50005518
I'm going to put month of start-present, so 4 months in my CV as xp

>> No.50005641

>>50002854
most people in jobs aren't like us, they are more like women where they see their insecurities if you are better than them and to fix that they either have to get rid of you or submit to your authority. you have to be the chad here and put the other dude(s) in their place, dropping a 250ug tab of lsd in their coffee might help a bit

>> No.50005686

>>50005641
Yeah I figure.

I'm looking for freelancing oportunities online, and thinking about becoming a cop or something. I'm not built for this effeminate pathetic shit.

>> No.50005714

>>50005629
No I'm going to enslave you. Your life will be the same except you don't get paid and you live in a crate.

>> No.50007068

>>50002700
>do all tasks on time
lol

>> No.50007385

>>50004877
This is not what I wanted to hear, but thanks anyway.

>> No.50007415

>>50003143
> I'm thinking of asking for a meeting next time with my boss/a few coworkers so we can sort things out. Then go with this play? Is this my best card to play?

Absolutely do not do this under any circumstance.

>> No.50007465

>>50002854
You are the point where programming is enjoyable, this is true of anyone who enters the field. This goes away after 3-5 years and coding becomes a major drag as the novelty wears off.

>> No.50007524

>>50007415
Why

I think it's over anyways. I'm already hitting up the streets with my CV regardless. What a faggot moveto do this after one month in the job. Wasted so much money and time on this shit.

>>50007465
It's fun, I always learn new stuff, I feel my brain becoming more potent by the day.

I thought that would make me a good professional because I'm willing to work hard, but it seems not.

>> No.50007572

>>50007524
Go make or join a start-up.

>> No.50007607

>>50005113
>Where can I just deal with naked assembly code for processors and not have to talk to anyone? Nowhere

Correct nowhere so stop being a fucking bitch and man up. Everyone has to pay their dues (even if that means we have to do things we don't want to and do things that don't make crystal clear sense), as you gain more leverage in the market you can move how you want. You sound like a whiny bitch and I read more and more of your posts I realize why it is these things are happening.

>> No.50007615

>>50007572
I'm currently working on a phishing website as a personal project.

I guess that can be considered a startup.

>> No.50007635

>>50007607
If I were a whiny bitch I wouldn't have holed up in my room eating rice and chicken for a year without any social contact, and pushed through the shitty situation to get myself a job without any formal education.

>> No.50007684

>>50005042
mate chill the fuck out, you've done well to get the job and freaking out over some minor feedback telling you to speak being so autistic and be a bit friendlier with the team

>> No.50007701

>>50007635
Well push through this next shitty situation you doofus.

>> No.50007732

>>50002700
Also OP, be sure you comb your hair and wear a nice professional shirt every day even if you are working from home.

>> No.50007748

>>50007684
Minor feedback? They told me to "chill out for a week" and then they're probably gonna fire me

>>50007701
I've been through much worse, lad. I'm capable of anything, and I absolutely will win and figure something out, no doubt about that.

>> No.50007764

>>50007524
Go for a walk, take a deep breath and drink some tea.

You're overreacting to some harmless normie requirements of a job. Keep up the good work but just try to take it slower and talk to your coworkers

>> No.50007794

>>50007748
"Chill out for a week" is their way of saying take it easy no need to rush through everything. It's probably really obvious you're overworking yourself and they're trying to tell you that but you're taking it personally.

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>>50007794
They specifically said "maybe you should be a freelancer for a while..." but didn't mention it after I denied all claims, and said it came down to miscomunnication.

Maybe you're right, anon. Maybe there is still some hopium that I can say "Yeah I've just been in a rush because of x, y and z, give me some more time and I'll adapt" and then start sending memes on slack, being more normie-like, asking people about how old their dog is.

Based hopium-giver anon. I've already sent out 30000 CVs though.

>> No.50007988

>>50007928

pretend like they never said any of this to you but start working 5x slower and sending memes and being more normie like

if youre at a big company document all of this stuff and claim your autistic to HR if they try to fire you

>> No.50008118

>>50007928
I think sending out CVs is a good thing, just don't get upset about your current situation and keep focused at work and engage more with normie tier stuff.

I get a strong sense you've blown your situation out of proportion. Based on your suggestion to set up a meeting I reckon you've made it a 'thing' that now has to be dealt with. Just nod at the feedback, go to the team social even if u want to rope and say "sure I'll engage more with coworkers!"

>> No.50008186

>>50008118
They suggested that...they said "we'll meet in a week and see what we decide".

The thing is these two people like me, they were like "we know you're a great guy and all", and the HR lady also likes me.

The problem is this other team, and this other guy. I told him I like naked code like Java/C/C++ and the frameworks are less fun, and he spun it around on me, and told these people that "I'm not interested in what I do, not interested in what he's willing to teach me".

It's just office bullshit dude. They just tried to fuck me over.

>> No.50008198

>>50002744

lol what fags just do better

imagine running a company and you learn about some clock milker cliq conspiring to fire anyone who actually gets something done. truly pathetic behavior

>> No.50008375

>>50008186
Ah, your fuckup was taking down the charade in front of a coworker before they reveal their power level

>> No.50008393

>>50003415
Based saved Christian
The rest of you need to get saved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSxegwiYLEQ

>> No.50008435

>>50002700
Stop working so hard, you are making the team look lazy and they will get you fired for it. That was them asking you nicely to chill out you sperg.

>> No.50008499

>>50003069
it's literally just this
>>50002700
you're autistic and they don't like it

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>>50008435
Kek I laughed at this

I'm going to try and accumulate two jobs. I think that way I can be a sperg and not make people look lazy.

>> No.50008556

>>50007615
dear lord don't do this......

>> No.50008662

>>50004043
unfortunately I had to learn this the hard way. I was pulling almost 50% of the sprint on my own, working unpaid overtime and doing mostly all the work. The tasks which I didn't complete, the other had to copy and paste then mix and match from my previous stuff to do so. Lo and behold, everyone and their mother gets promoted and I'm still on the same position. While I had autistically pushed above and beyond to "make it", others had done so through social bullshit and office politics. I do live in a shithole however, I don't pretend to be a good programmer, I'm just better than the retards I work with. It really saddens me to see that most of the same bullshit applies elsewhere, especially now that I work 30min a day and browse /biz/ and /k/ when I complete my "apply to 10 remote/relocating jobs a day" quota. On a side note, management has noticed a sharp drop in productivity and are looking around for answers, go figure!

it truly seems to be how anon pointed out here >>50004023

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>>50002700
Oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck
I signed up for a web dev bootcamp that's starting in less than a week and this thread just fucked me up.
I like coding alone in my dark room but I forgot you have to work in a team and communicate and be friendly and these are exactly the things I'm terrible at. I'll never have a normal job with normal pay.
Why did I sign up for this shit I should've just applied to work in a warehouse or something.
Fuck

>> No.50008724

>>50002700
> like you are going faster with work than you can at the moment with your skillset

they are saying you are outputting shit and you need to slow down and produce better quality

>> No.50008780

>>50008724
Can't they just say that?

"Hey anon, we think maybe you're going too fast, the code contains some errors, maybe you should go slower and focus on quality"

They just waited 1 month and suddenly say they're thinking about firing me.

>>50008714
It's ok anon, go for it. Imagine if I had never learned, today I'd be a skilless moneyless sperg. Now I have a valuable skill and can always get another job. It was the most valuable thing I've done in my life, probably, learning to code.

>> No.50008808

>>50005042
>cop
>autism
If you're really autistic don't take a job where you deal with a lot of people.
I'volunteered to become a reseve NCO/Officer, and i almost didn't make it on my enlistment test, because of social autism. I smooth talked the psychologist to give me nco grade after all (euro here).
Leading people, and telling people to do shit they don't wanna is fucking hell. Especially if you can't take up social cues or banter. Just imagine how you're gonna approch a tweaker that has assaulted a landwhale, that's constantly bitching around.
Or how you lead a squad that consists of 50% of high school sports guys, 25%farmers and 25% of dropouts.
Seek a connection to your boss/superior, my boss has guns and stocks, so i talk about it with him.

>> No.50008824

>>50008714
>web dev
just don't do webdev and become an actual developer instead
webdev is fucking braindead you can learn html and css in a week hence why the field is full of women and queers whereas programming isn't well at least full of women

>> No.50008827

>>50008714
mega-spergs like yourselves tend to start some normie web dev shit and then transition to some mega autist assembly code

You will thank yourself in a few years time

>> No.50008829

>>50002700
Você postou isso no IGN VT né? Acabei de ver um tópico que estava falando exatamente a mesma coisa. Tu já sabe o que fez de errado chapa.

>> No.50008851

>>50008829
KEK, sou eu mesmo.

>> No.50008872

>>50008829
Como faço pra entrar no 1500chan, amigue?

>> No.50008946

>>50008824
>webdev is fucking braindead you can learn html and css
It's not just frontend web dev, it's full stack including node.js and frameworks like react and vue. Might be braindead but I have to get a job and get the hell out of my mom's house. I'll probably get a computer science / engineering degree later on.
>>50008827
I'm not much of a sperg, more schizoid and I like to keep to myself a lot.

>> No.50009076

>>50002700
Build your own app and melt their faces with your success. You have what it takes. Subsquid has a perfect and easy-to-use environment to build a dApp and also create your own app. With such a skill of yours, you can become one of their ambassadors. Fuck those niggurs, you will be alright.

>> No.50009106

>>50008946
Don’t do engineering anon. A huge waste of time. Just stick with straight compsci or do something like a comp sci/finance double major to open more doors and provide a slightly higher challenge.
>t. EE fag grinding leetcode and getting masters in CS after making lol $75-$85k first 2 years out of undergrad

>> No.50009125

>>50008946
backend isn't so bad but frontend webdev jobs are going to dry up over the recession because it's easy and way overvalued right now
>I'll probably get a computer science / engineering degree later on.
if you get the job and you're american then why? serious question
in tech experience > qualifications the only reason to want to get a degree once you're rolling is for visa purposes
but if you're american then where are you going to want to go work? especially in tech where the usa is mecca for salaries

>> No.50009154

>>50009106
also this engineering sucks balls tech is where it's at right now and for the foreseeable future
software is replacing engineering: there is no need to have engineers who can calculate shit and design stuff when a computer can do it all flawlessly, consistently, and more quickly

>> No.50009221

>>50002700
did you consider that you are polluting the entire code base with your low quality, instant legacy code?

do you have code reviews?

>> No.50009271

>>50008946
Regardless, you will find a cushy job where u can keep to yourself down the line

>> No.50009448

>>50003535
I have been wondering if this is why autistism survives genetically. In women, autism makes them more sensible and less whorish, and reduces drama queen-ism. This is only true if they don't have strong autism. Strong autism incapacitates anyone. It seems like slight autism is a positive traits in females. In males it seems to be mostly negative except for granting superior technical ability.

>> No.50009466

Work even harder. Don't quit your job, wait to get fired. Or promoted if they don't want you to fire you and give you some sort of monetary compensation

>> No.50009490

>>50003542
>It's a woke business
Is this is true, then the problem might be that you're not toting the party political line enough. Wokes are extremely intolerant to other ideologies. Tell them you are gay and autistic. They will never be able to fire you.

>> No.50009515

>>50009125
>if you get the job and you're american then why? serious question
I'm not American but I thought that maybe getting a degree will give me better understanding of what I'm working with and maybe open more doors.
>>50009271
Thanks anon, I'm a remoralized

>> No.50009518

>>50002700
It probably means you are pushing rushed stuff, relax anon

>> No.50009727

>>50004969
This.

>> No.50009763

>>50009515
a degree once you have a career is vanity
>maybe open more doors.
it will open a few doors maybe but the main reason to get a degree is if you want a visa you really need one
and in software america pays at least double the rest of the world

>> No.50010719

>>50003415
Hello and welcome to my cringe compilation!

>> No.50010748

>>50004874
Yes, I would absolutely do that. You got your foot in the door into a new career, and a wfh one at that. My .02 but I would come from a place of being willing to consider how to best augment the existing team and fuck yes, be frank and open about wanting to know what this is supposed to look like. Cut out the bullshit and just get right down to it - how is my work, what do you need done differently, and please, by all means keep an open line of communication with me about what I should be doing differently or if I need to refine something/ or some skills. Get all the bullshit out on the table so everyone involved can realistically assess whether this is a fit, for them or for you.

Bailing now for a new job would not only look bad for work history, it's bailing on a possibly good place without even understanding what the problem is at this point. Do this now, and you've solved nothing, learned nothing. Throw out the offer to have a group meeting and just be direct.

"If this job goes then I'll just be looking for another one. So from my standpoint I'd like to discuss what issues are there, if any, and gain some clarity of this situation. Communicate with me"

>> No.50010806

You're a faggot autist and they can't handle your sperg bants. Get a new job

>> No.50011435

>>50005113
What do you think joining a gang is fricken like? I know you were just joking but gangs are social as fuck. More social than work since they are unprofessional screw offs and spend even less time working.

>> No.50011887

>>50002744
This. It's a mind fuck fuck game to get you to either underperform as to test your true worth or to keep you accepting your current wage.

Outperform, say you're good and very happy.

>> No.50012147

>>50007385
It's exactly what you needed to hear, though.
Get something safe if you can.

>> No.50012244

op you need to atleast make an attempt to look at the world from other's point of view.
you sound really jumpy and hysterical. ppl around you aren't robots, they don't want any adventures or surprises, they just want a calm environment in which to scoop up a paycheck and go home to play on the ps5 a bit, maybe cook up a nice dinner, visit grandma on the weekend, etc.
just chill out next time, and stop being so blunt. give people reassurance that youre not a weirdo. nothing worse than a new hire who just starts doing his own thing. thats a real nightmare for everyone involved.
i guarantee nobody, absolutely nobody gives a fuck about your engineering skills. it literally isn't important. keeping the business nice and steady is absolutely critical. this sometimes will intersect with doing a bit of engineering. but more often than not, simply not shaking the room is more than enough.
and guess what, nothing worse than some autistic new hire who starts creating problems for everyone without even any benefit. you know how they say, "dont work extra cos you wont get paid extra?" that applies to businesses aswell. if client X has their problems solved, by going through and re-writing the algos to work 10 times as fast isn't gonna make them suddently pay 10 times as much. that is something that has to start at the contract-writing level. if such an agreement can be decided, only then will there be any reason to "roll up" your sleeves. but until there is a very clear path to "more work = more money", you will not gain anything by standing out other than the resentment of the entire company. and for a good reason.

stop presenting yourself as a liability. when ppl message you, they are subconciously "treading the water" with you. they're just looking to assure themselves that the guy they hired is a nice friendly fellow who's behaviour is predictably polite and isn't gonna pull any funny stuff. just be chill, is it really so hard?

>> No.50012403

>>50012244
It's just confusing anon.

One time they told me if there wasn't enough work I could ask for more, so I probably wasn't being "proactive" enough.

I guess the normie thing to do would just to reassure my team with "Hey guys, If theres anything else to do hit me up :)" something like that. I now can see that I understood it in an autistic way and just started working 2x as hard on delivering PR's and learning shit in general.

The other thing is that, honestly, I WAS slacking off. I would leave in the middle of the day to go fuck some prostitutes and I'd be having sex when I should've been coding, or I'd go to the gym and cut the 8 hours short to something less than that.

But I think for normie standards I didn't slack off. I think normie standards is working 5 hours, and slacking off is working 2 hours.

>> No.50012439

>>50002700
post their name so we can give them the /biz/ness.

>> No.50012497

>>50012403
The norm is slacking off. As in 1-2 hours of productive work per day.

Enjoy the extra time just playing vidya, watching youtube, read a book, or brush up on your skills. Don't try to optimize everything at work since it'll eventually burn you out.

Most people slack off. That's the norm of any job (except blue collar jobs).

>> No.50012613

>>50012497
If I don't get fired I'm just going to start asking lots of dumb questions, sending many emojis, sending memes in slack.

I'm going for a freelance gig right now which looks much better.

I thought a comfy corporate job would be a good situation to be in, but right now I'd rather just code and make my money without depending on someone else.

>> No.50012696

>>50012403
>One time they told me if there wasn't enough work I could ask for more
>I guess the normie thing to do would just to reassure my team with "Hey guys, If theres anything else to do hit me up :)"
no, comeon, you still don't get it???
the correct reply is
>"Hey, X! Not ATM unfortunately - I'm currently narrowing down on the bug in subsystem Y - I think I've got an idea of what might be causing it, but I need to do a bit more testing, might take me a few days or so. I'll definitely try to get back to you if I end up with any free time this week."

never make more commitments that you have to. notice the phrasing. you "think" you've found the bug. if anyone pushes the issue, you can say you were mistaken, and youve covered this angle of attack. it "might" take a few days - i.e., it might take longer. you will "try" to get back to them, and a week later you don't because you are busier than you expected.

and then you go back to chopping wood in OSRS, only with even more time than last time, because actually you fixed the bug last evening.

but from what I gather, on your first few weeks you went and worked 8hr days every week, so now everyone's idea of the "normal you" is the constantly-fixing-things, constantly-pushing-commits anon. so the moment you slow down, they think something's up.
see the problem? its all about managing expectations.

Seriously though, if you actually want to dig deep and code 24/7 (and some people really do), you need to go work at a FAANG. they are the 1% of the 1% of companies who actually make a large part of their company value by pushing the limit of engineering. this is where you will actually be rewarded for constantly going out of your way to fix bugs, to shake up the code, to optimize the shit out of everything, even if it is done at th expense of existing stability. But this is very rare in business, and your average run-of-the-mill software shop will plays the chill game, and will not appreciate your initiative.

>> No.50012949

>>50012696
Can you take all this time to fix a bug? It just sounds insane to me.

I'm used to personal projects, where if I had a bug I would just sit down for 10 hours straight and hammer away at it till it was solved, and that's what I did at work.

The guy who said that to me was the CEO by the way, I don't know what the fuck happened, but I have an idea,

Basically I would just dissapear for a day or two, and then push a bunch of code I had been doing on the second day, or on the same day after just working hard all day.

You're right, I should've just said "Working on finding the solution for this bug, I think I'll be able to fix it in the next few days" or something along those lines.

I sent a PR around once every other day or once every three days at max. Never went more than three days without pushing new code.

I'm already fixing a freelance client with a buddy of mine, because I think they might just fire me and that's it.

>> No.50013228

>>50012949
>Can you take all this time to fix a bug?
how long it actually takes to fix is irrelevant. youre asking the wrong question. the question that you should ask, is how long your supervisor thinks it should take you to fix it. and that is usually a very malleable figure, providing you're not in a demanding company.
You have to analyze each team environment on a per-case basis. just take a few days/weeks to figure out peoples coding patterns. also, when you're a new hire you have a natural defence against doing work, i.e. "hey im new here, still getting figured out and settled in". especially if you're young. you can use this time to observe how much work others are putting in, and you can then adjust your own work output to be a bit below theirs.

if you think that sucks, and is lame, then i reiterate that you need to find a company that values hard work and programming excellence. because most of them actually don't. go apply to Google, Amazon, Facebook, whatever. There you will be fixing bugs 10 hours a day, just to keep up with the rest of the team. and some people truly love that kind of programmer-maxxing environment, but obviously its not for all. i feel like you could do it though, and make a lot of money at the same time.

>> No.50013280

>>50003022

Avoid skipping meetings and perhaps you could talk with people a bit more over Slack so that you don't give such a big impression that you're a robot. Apart from that, it doesn't look like you're not doing anything really wrong and you're more at a "heads down" stage in your career, enjoy it!

>> No.50013289

>>50003415
holy unironically based

>> No.50013355

>>50002854

Honestly it seems like you're actually not performing like they're expecting and they're trying to be nice about it. That is why they're saying they think "You're going faster with work" than what they expect - you think you're doing everything great and fast, but in reality you're taking on more than you should. It's either that or they hate you and want to get rid of you. So figure it out.

>> No.50013368

>>50013228
On my first day I started coding this web3 stuff and building a web app to show I'm a good fucking coder.

The next day some guy told me to basically fuck off with the coding shit and just chill out, "get used to the company".

I couldn't understand that. To me that just means doing nothing. I would just basically do nothing. What would I report to my superiors if they asked?

So I slacked off for one day. And then on the day after I went back to coding hard.

I know now you just have to slack off and always have a plausibly deniable excuse, but without ever dissapearing from slack. So every day send a message, react to messages, maybe send a meme.

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>>50002700
There’s a sperg like you on my team that dedicates his entire life to the job, works on weekends, puts in 110% effort and tries way too hard/ is more knowledgeable than anyone else and it just raises the bar for normal people that aren’t shekelstein’s perfect wagie that dedicates their entire life for a less than average salary. All the other autists telling you to continue to be the ultimate wagie are Jewish bootlickers. Learn to chill and go with the flow of your company unless you’re getting compensated to go above and beyond (which you aren’t as a code monkey).

>> No.50013452

>>50013394
slave morality: the post

>> No.50013510

>>50013394
Fuck. I'm the virgin hard worker even though I tried to be the chad one. My version of the chad is the normies virgin.

How is the sperg not fired yet, if I may ask?

Also, in defense of the virgin - I am just so full of fucking energy, my testosterone is 770 natty, I am a fucking sexual and coding monster. I cannot sit still and do nothing, play videogames and jerk off, I have to do SOMETHING or I feel bad.

So I'd put some of that energy into my job, when I shouldn't have, and should've made my own money from personal projects or freelancing.

>>50013355
I think it's a mixture of both these things honestly.

>> No.50013537

>>50013452
How is not dedicating your entire life to being the best wagie for shekelstein slave morality you nerd? Be an autist/turbo sperg then see if it gets you that big promotion champ.

>> No.50013593

>>50002946
>the passive aggressive bitter arrogant NEET is intolerable to be around no matter how much he tries to hide it
many such cases, sort your hate for the world out or you will never be able to cope, the "normies" and everyone else sees right through your fake smile to the cold hate in your heart, this is the truth, just be the bigger man and humble yourself you will probably actually make some real friends here if you can do this. I listened to this story about a gangster who was bashed for selling in a specific area and once he recovered he ended up joining the gang and they respected his fearless and dignified approach and he became apart of their crew. Fix the hatred and pain in your heart anon it cannot be hidden and if you need help doing this then go and get it or face these problems forever more

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89% of biz doesn't want money what they truly want is love comfort and kindness this is the final black pill

>> No.50013635

>>50002700
Don't miss meetings.

Other than that, shit I'd hire you.

>> No.50013650

>>50013510
I mean is coding genuinely your hobby? If it is work on your own projects building cool shit. If not read some philosophy/subjects that interest you, meditate, draw, play an instrument. Idk man learn to not raise flags maybe just cut back just enough not to piss off your coworkers but still enough to shine to management if that’s what you want. On my team the sperg is pretty cool honestly he will cover for people occasionally and has helped me out a ton since he knows way more shit than me. Management likes him cuz he gets more work done than like 3 regular employees but our team isn’t petty and don’t try to Sabotage him even if he makes us look bad even tho it’s annoying.

>> No.50013651

>>50013593
Passive-agressive? What are you smoking mate? I'm actually just agressive, positively or negatively. A high test beast who can't stand not working on something.

>>50013630
Got my dick sucked three days ago for 30 bucks. I had never coomed without any hand contact the bitch used just her mouth and kept on sucking after I coomed.

>>50013635
Based.

>> No.50013676

>>50013651
A lot of CA folk are passive aggressive, especially indians. Be careful with them and cover your bases.

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>>50002700
They're telling you you're bad at coding. Simple tasks are taking you hours.

You're not experienced, so you shouldn't be surprised you didn't cut it.

>> No.50013717

>>50013688
It's been established ITT that I'm supposed to be bad at coding, but also send memes on slack so they don't think i'm a sperg.

>> No.50013735

>>50003022
>I missed a meeting
Retard. This got you fired. I'd hate you too if I was working there attending all these shitty meetings and you fuck off and do your own thing.
>On my PR's the comments were like "Hey maybe you should implement this :)" and I'd just do the work and answer "Implemented."
L2 communicate.
>No worries I'll give it a go :)
Then go fap for 2 hours, get lunch, shitpost a bit, and finally rush the job in 5 minutes half assing it and reply
>Hey I tried this, let me know what you think :)
And you'll be looked upon better than your autistic version.

No one wants to wake up every day and go into work to deal with some adhd autist retard.

>> No.50013763

>>50013688
i dont remember where i read this, but apparently this guy literally slept 10 hours a day and did nothing other than charisma-maxx people into giving him millions of dollars.

>> No.50013774

>>50004798
Based. When a company works me too hard I always make it up with a day off besides meetings

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>>50013717
thread is tl;dr
It's fine to be bad at coding in the "big picture" but you can't be so bad that trivial things take you an hour. This seems to be the case, they noticed, and don't want you holding them back.

>> No.50013794

>>50013776
What would a trivial thing be?

>> No.50013898

>>50013794
Either:
>Some common type of bug that you would have been able to quickly infer root cause and diagnose and solve if you had more experience
or
>A simple code quality improve eg. some OWASP top 10 shit, which you don't know or understand the need for because you have no experience

tl;dr things you would know if you've been around the block, but you haven't

>> No.50013901

>>50013794
Hard to know context, reading through this thread did that 7 hour task seem like a 7 hour task? Perhaps after the first hour you should have reached out? Maybe the problem you solved was trivial for someone who'd been there longer?
I don't really think you were not skilled enough. In my experience 90% of workers are retarded mongoloids and you don't sound like one. So I think there was something else. I my early days I had to learn to be more "approachable" and was fired once where I suspect the manager just hated me. Even though I was good at the job. Work places are retarded anon, you need to learn to finesse them.
A pleasurable bad worker will get lots of opportunity to improve and learn.

>> No.50013977

>>50013901
Yeah, I really think it comes down to not being "aproachable" and whatnot. Not enough using enough emojis, that sort of thing, not sending Garfield memes on Mondays, etc.

Yeah I think the bug was a 7 hour thing. The other junior guy on my team also said:

"I don't know how to solve this task it's a bit tricky, maybe you should give it to someone with more experience :)".

I forgot to add that part - he didn't know how to solve it, and I ended up solving it, the wrong way, the autistic way, of course, which is just working. I should've messaged a senior and told him how I need help or some bullshit.

>>50013898
Considering what I experienced, I don't think it's that.

>> No.50014214

>>50013593
>hate
What are you talking about?

>> No.50014797

>>50004023
nah bro, stick with it, or do what my other autist friend does for a living and do data entry. it's a job where you literally just sit there and enter names and dates and data into a computer for 8 hours and they usually pay you pretty decently. they don't even really expect you to interact with anybody or anything.

>> No.50014831

>>50002854
Big if true but if your var names are trash and you write side effecting spaghetti code then it's all for naught. Did you write tests, and nice comments? Did you not break the surrounding code? Did your git commit have a million conflicts, and the wrong line endings? Did you force push to master?

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>>50002700
>Was this because I didn't socialize on slack and other social media?

>> No.50014867

>>50014831
No tests, it's web stuff.

No comments on anything.

No breakage, at least nothing reported.

Sometimes I'd force push to my own branch, which AFAIK is ok.

>> No.50014907

>>50003566
The mostly normal but non commital response is the thumbs up emoji

>> No.50014932

>>50014867
>no tests
>no comments
Anon sometimes it just doesn't work out. We wish you the best of luck!

>> No.50014950

>>50013593
But it's the world that rejected me first

A child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its worth.

>> No.50015000

>anon finds out that society does not like hard workers

>> No.50015018

>>50002700
i think i know where you got hired. This is going to be a funny conversation tomorrow.

>> No.50015019

>>50014907
I use that one. Thumbs up. Didn't post cat picture though.

>>50014932
How would I know I have to do this if nobody tells me. I don't comment my personal projects.

>>50014950
I think that's a bot anon

>> No.50015022

>>50002700
This sounds like you’re either bad at the job or made a bad impression on your coworkers. Did you say anything autistic?

>> No.50015037

>>50002700
>>50002854
I'm tripping balls as hard as you too, shits too fucking weird

>> No.50015047

>>50002700
>>50002854
are you fully self taught or bootcamp grad? I'm a 30 year old boomer considering taking a bootcamp and following the lrn2code meme dream

>> No.50015055

>>50015019
I ain't no bot muthafucka

>> No.50015077

>>50015018
Lick moi nuts then, yeah. Lick em real good.

>>50015022
I thought github was supposed to be a formal environment where you just answer objectively "Implemented" or "Added this feature", but it turns out you still have to socialize, even on github.

>>50015047
Fully self taught.

>> No.50015124

same thing happened to me
im going to start my own consulting firm and just hire out my services. fuck working for other people at this point. ill work WITH other people and get to have full control over my career

>> No.50015161

>>50015077
Yeah Ive given one word answers on GH for 6 years, never gotten a complaint. It kinda seems like you haven’t done any reflection or actually considered the feedback you got at all.

>> No.50015835

>>50003022
no, once you have achieved technical competence, your job is to schmooze and build political alliances. Your neutrality or aversion towards socializing gets you immediately labeled as 'out-group' and their insecurities immediately begin to mount. If you want to defuse the entire situation, buy everyone on your team lattes delivered by Doordash. People will forgive your behavior if you just drop generosity on them.

>> No.50015916

>>50002700

I just want to remind you guys that this a doom-spiral of neurosis. People voicing their insecurities by anonymously by projecting them onto others on the internet, with some bots mixed it. It'll probably be fine in real life no cap.

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>>50015077
I've only used github, which i have the desktop app installed so i dont have to go through alot of the crap. I was thinking of just getting a remote front end job. I practically have plenty of experience in those three meme languanges and have even done back end work. With how I am seeing you guys talk about how low effort it is. What can I expect going in? I understand there that there will be a social structure, which i dont really give a fuck interacting with normies is easy like those in here said, but what can you do for all the downtime you have? Can i play games on my pc while "working"? How far could i possibly push it?

>> No.50015990

>>50002700
you got used and abused.
post skin color, then post your the skin color of your colleagues'

>> No.50016016

>>50002700
I went through this exact same shit at a company 2 years ago. I plowed through like 1/4 of their backlog in about a week and they started panicking because of how shit I was making them look. They sent me on some wild goose chases and started getting super passive aggressive with me. Eventually they stuck me proof reading documentation and other menial shit. When I told them I wanted to go back to coding they just gave some bullshit excuse and ran me around. It was miserable as fuck and I hate to say it but they won because I quit a few months after basically being told that proof reading and formatting documentation would be my job from that point forward.

>> No.50016053

What's a good place to go to learn

>> No.50016065

>>50015077
>Fully self taught.
nice anon, how long did it take you to get job ready?

>> No.50016109

>>50011887
>outperform
never do this. Just do whats required to be middle of the road in comparison with everyone else. You want to be good enough to avoid being noticed by managers for underperforming, and bad enough to not stand out among the rest of the employees. After you’ve solidified your position somewhere (6-12 months into the job) thats when you can go above and beyond if you for some reason want to climb upward.

>> No.50016137

Are you from Iran OP?
I only ask because I had an Iranian co-worker that was an absolute fucking machine at work, did everything as soon as he got it. One time he came to me at 10:30am on a Tuesday and said I've done all my work for the week, should I go see the boss?

>> No.50016192

>>50016137
Not that guy kekerino

>>50016065
Like less than 1 year

>>50015916
True. I can probably talk my way out of this and if I can't I can just get a regular job while searching for coding gigs again.

It's gonna work out in the end.

>> No.50016257

>>50005113
This is where you grow up.
Welcome to Heck.

>> No.50016267

>>50002700
You didn't smile and laugh sufficiently to impress the HR roasties.

>> No.50016307 [DELETED] 

You probably thought you were going to be that giddy badass hardcore mercenary contract killer for the Navy SEALS, Army intelligence sigint, CIA SAD task force orange didn't you?

>The world is just so gay

Those guys wind up being the male equivalent of white suburban moms.

>> No.50016560

Syscon's NEVM offers features to make it more attractive to programmers and users alike. It uses the programming language as ethereum solidity which means those already familiar can easily onboard their projects on syscon's platform to immediately enjoy its benefits.

>> No.50016580

>>50016192
>Like less than 1 year
how? I'm doing freecodecamp rn and I don't think I'll be able to even do a project for at least ~3 weeks

>> No.50016602

>>50002854
You’re good fuck them. Tell your boss straight you’re satisfied with the work and if the team has any suggestions you’d appreciate if they share it with you.

>> No.50016686

I'm not reading this thread because I already know the problem isn't OP it's just normie work culture. After ten years of working different jobs in different industries I realised you need to get lucky to find a half reasonable work place. If not you're fucked no matter what you do unless you're just as fucked as the people you work with. Remmeber most people took the jab with no push back

>> No.50016763

>>50003687
>You cannot win the game, there’s always a bigger fish
>If perfection is impossible why strive for it?
Isnt your God perfect?

>> No.50016842

>>50002700
senior devs and lead had meetings about you and think you suck, and probably reviewing and fixing your code takes more time than doing it

>> No.50016915

Fuck everyone's advice telling you to change, OP. Be true to who you are. If you get fired because you work to hard, so be it. The universe will work itself out and you'll land in a place where you can be who you are. The one thing you can't do is change because other people want you to. That never works.

>> No.50017013

>>50016763
>Isnt your God perfect?
from Old French parfit "finished, completed, ready" (11c.), from Latin perfectus "completed, excellent, accomplished, exquisite,"
He certainly is yes.

>> No.50017056

>>50003163
OP, this isn't terrible advice since it's unlikely you have a lot of career advancement potential there. Just get a second job doing the same shit if you want to no-life grind out a lot of money.

>> No.50017123

You have to blend it with the team more. Basically, work and their rhythm, and fake interest. What you are dealing with is office politics. Also instead of thinking "I hate how slow they're" take it as "nice more free time". You are an asset to the company, just do the bare minimum, do other things in the mean time. It's normal that projects that could take weeks sometimes take months because corporate is often mismanaged and there is a shit ton of lost time a day. You have employees going for an smoke or the bathroom every 5 minutes, because they don't wanna be there

>> No.50017159

>>50002700

You're gonna get burn out, you stupid nigger. Plus, you are most likely fucking up team's pace by cranking it up to an unsustainable level, like most new hires tend to do. Talk to your team lead if you want "more work." Or, you can just chill the fuck out, get paid EZ money, AND do the actual programming on your side projects which you sell/pad out your github for the real big bux.

>> No.50017178

>>50003415
Based. Don't listen to the reddit skidmarks here, based Terry himself would approve, may he RIP.

>> No.50017186

>>50003022
Keep working hard, fuck the normies. Show them what a real man can do. Your prowess and ambition let's others know how great they can be.
Whatever you do, don't change jobs now, if they let you go take it higher and show all of your proof of work.

>> No.50017343

>>50002854
>I solved the task in 7 HOURS STRAIGGHT OF WORK

Is it possible that that was something that should have only taken you an hour and your coworker expected you to ask for something else to do or ask for help when you were taking too long ?

>> No.50017413

>>50003415
Truepilled. There need to be more Christian-only tech companies.

>> No.50017474

>>50002700
are you doing your tasks properly?

>> No.50017526

write me an email with your CV rewend@dyne.org
check our project darkfi out

>> No.50017596

>>50002700
>like you are going faster with work than you can at the moment with your skillset"
low key calling you retarded

id tell them fuck it i git a better gig elsewhere anyway

and leave buggy shit behind with messages

>> No.50017694

>>50002700
>>50002744
>>50003241
This kind of workplace politics fucking BULLSHIT is precisely why I went my own way and started my own business. I employ ambitious young people and we got more done in the 2 years of Covid than most people get done in a lifetime. I now make more in a year in NET profit than my old spineless boss and every fucking retard at my old department combined. Know your worth.

>> No.50017864

imagine still posting pepe like a cringe reddit fucktard in 2022

>> No.50017892

imagine still posting pepe like a cringe reddit fucktard in 2022,n

>> No.50018008

imagine still posting pepe like a cringe reddit fucktard in 2022,ni

>> No.50018396

>>50002700
Most likely, like all enthusiastic newbies, you're trying to make too much of what they're asking you to do, in the process adding up "improvements" that aren't really that well coded or exactly what they're expecting and end up making the rest of the team lose time or need to fix issues/adapt, instead of going with the planned workflow.

This is the reason working for others ends up demotivating young passionate people. Working with others is not doing your best at all times. It's doing exactly what the rest of the team needs. No more, no less. If you can't see that, they might be right, you might be better working as a freelancer (which wouldn't really be a bad choice, anyway)

>> No.50018532

>>50016109
I’ve tried that in my last job. Due to my poor social skills I just got the worse of both worlds. Either that or my co-workers were “”men”” with femoid brains
>wtf anon just take it easy and stop working past office hours
>ok
>co-workers proceed to work past office hours when the boss is around
>boss starts to notice me “underperforming” even though I now focus on working smart
>co-workers started seething
>they start boot-licking the boss and try to make me look incompetent in front of the boomer whenever we discussed work or even small-talk
>always making sure the boss hears about me by talking as loud as possible

>> No.50018577

>>50002854
you work for real. Wether it's in code or any other related field, this mean you should be working for yourself and for with other wagies that will inflict their bullshit highschool level social drama on you. Work is about work.

>> No.50018625

>>50005113
>>50005113
find a way to enter a state which I enter after drinking alcohol.

>> No.50018701

>>50015835
> If you want to defuse the entire situation, buy everyone on your team lattes delivered by Doordash. People will forgive your behavior if you just drop generosity on them.
That only works if you do so very sparingly. Do it too often then normalfags will just see you as a people pleaser and pushover at best, a psychopath who bribes at worst.

>> No.50018728

>>50013593
youre a fucking weirdo, you need a break from the internet

>> No.50019171

the bot threads are getting good
OP is not a human

>> No.50020395

>>50002700
Gone through the thread and I can say ... Devs and wagies don't have it easy at all.
If you worked as a freelancer, they def wouldn't need you.
This is why building on blockchains like QANplatform might help since the dev gets paid royalties when their code is used, yet they don't work for anyone.

>> No.50020413

>>50002700
Guys should I sign an offer letter with palantir? Its a meme stock but they provide breakfast/lunch/dinner (so stay in office all day?????) and their office is in downtown of a city where you have to live there or take forever to commute....
its not wfh comfy its full time in office

>> No.50020508

>>50020395
Shill post

>>50019171
Opie here not a bot btw

>> No.50020840

>>50004370
>You're not a better developer than everyone else they're just not fucking bothered and you are.
lol
lmao even

is this what low-skill codemonkey retards tell themselves to feel better?
>"i'm actually a genius but I'm just lazy bloo abloo"
kill yourself
people with grit are the ones who succeed and eventually make it out ot fhe rat race

t. became a tech lead 3 years after starting my first software job because I was head and shoulders above everyone else and wasn't afraid to show it

>> No.50020853

>>50020840
>tech lead
lmao i became tech lead and want to blow my brains out. such a shit position.

>> No.50020888

>>50002700
OP don't listen to almost everyone ITT
they're crabs in a bucket just like your retard coworkers

lay low for a while and start looking for a new job on the side
you're in a toxic work environment where standing out is punished rather than praised

try to find a company where everyone is trying to out-autism each other
FAANG and other big tech companies are a solid choice but you may need to settle for lower-tier start-ups until you find the right one

>> No.50020898

>>50003022
If you haven't learned how to fake a smile and manipulate people by 25 you're ngmi.

>> No.50020911

>>50020840
No, after suffering a few years of corporate bullshit, sensible people realise you don’t need to put in the effort to make good money in tech. Promotions just mean 50% more workload and 5-10% improved pay, which is shit anyway compared to freelancing

t. Earn top 1%, work 2 hours/day

>> No.50020953

>>50020898
Im 22

>> No.50021021

>>50020853
the responsibilities vary a lot from company to company
I'm mostly doing exploratory R&D work and leading large projects

>>50020911
thanks for agreeing with me, buddy
it's all about the company and work environment that you end up with, in my case my promo to tech lead was 50% more responsibility, 50% LESS actual work and a 30% pay raise along with a six-figures stock grant

settle for a shit company / shit team and you'll be knee deep in it for years

>> No.50021072

>>50020840
Lame, I became tech lead within 1 year from college because manipulation is the real job in any office workplace.

OP, please stop doing your work and start scamming your manager. Nobody fucking likes someone who does work because software engineering is about stealing from old idiots who cant code.

I basically speedran corporate life and quit to scam on the blockchain instead of becoming a 25yo manager (way easier + more money). Biggest peice of advice is that if you have average communication skills theres no actual need to be good at coding.

I took a whole year off of working and made 6fig+ just for coming up with a fake "update" in every weekly meeting lmao

>> No.50021130

>>50004043
Why is the industry like this? Isn’t this counterproductive?

>> No.50021165

>>50002946
>will any business try to see if its true?
Yes. Every tech company background check independantly confirms dates and titles AT A MINIMUM.

>> No.50021182

>>50003069
This honestly

>> No.50021236

>>50021072
being a fraud with zero actual skills won't do you any good once someone catches you with your hands on your dick
don't assume every company can be conned the same way as your corporate shithole of choice

i've seen people like you get a boot in their ass after 1 month of being completely useless, and they were even higher up on the ladder than a simple tech lead

>> No.50021266

>>50020953
Good, you will learn when it becomes more effort to deal with the consequences than just conforming. Easier than ever if you communicate over text, just use the occasional exclamation point and share your banal experiences when they're relevant to the group chat. "Oh yeah we installed one of those things, it broke the next day lol" boom, you're not the silent weirdo, your the boring guy at worst.

>> No.50021306

>>50002854
You should explicitly tell them to suck your cock.
You are talented, take the h4x0r route and make mad all.

>> No.50021345

>>50003415
Based

>> No.50021419

>>50021165
How would they check that? Calling your boss?

>> No.50021438

>>50020853
tech lead is the best tho?

>enough power to potentially derail a project, major leverage over your manager
>little accountability, as you're "just the tech lead". patsy for your mistakes is the manager. more leverage
>control and withhold info from manager, bypass him to build backchannels with other teams. more leverage
>split the connection between devs & manager, make devs dependent on you instead. more leverage

once they absolutely need you on a project, just say you want to leave and collect your raise.

>> No.50021446

>>50021306
I am a haxx0r Im making some phishing site atm. But idk if anyone falls for that these days.

>> No.50021503

>>50021236
Luckily I can actually do the work if required, I'm just lazy/greedy so as soon as the opportunity comes up, im scammin

Most companies just want smart people on retainer for hard problems, not in/around the drones wasting time doing things.

>> No.50021570

Software development at most places is about doing the minimal work while pretending you're contributing the most.
Ideally you want to work 2-3 hours a day and put in 10-100 lines of updates/fixes. You can work harder on some days if you want, but you should space out your reported "progress" so that you can have later days where you literally do nothing.

The metrics that define progress and success in writing software are often so vague and arbitrary that it's really just up to personal feelings of the manager on whether you're doing well or not. If they think a problem is hard, they'll think you did great solving it. If they think a problem is easy, it doesn't matter that you dug into a mountain of bugs to get that feature in. If you can build some trust, then every task you accomplish is perceived as a task done well and their opinion slowly changes to thinking that you're irreplaceable.

In the end, software engineering is really social engineering. It's up to you what you do with your newfound free time.

>> No.50021586

>>50021182
Its hard to explain, but Im not trying to be a dick or rude. My natural mode of being is just to be succint and objective.

>>50021266
True thats a good one. I did that a total of zero times, never talked to anyone.

>> No.50021615

>>50003687
Perfection isn’t impossible

>> No.50021654

>>50004047
Ngmi

>> No.50021683

>>50004501
Kek

>> No.50021704

>>50004047
Lmao, you think Trump would let some guy pull him to the side and say
>”Maybe you shouldn’t be selling so many apartment complexes, take it slow man”

He would’ve slapped him. You think Hitler would’ve allowed anyone to tell him to “slow down”? When the date of the world and the races destiny was at stake?

>> No.50021715
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50021715

>>50002700
>meeting request: friday, 4:45 pm
>with: shaniqua, human resources assistant
>title: catchup
i'm sorry anon but this just isn't a good fit™

>> No.50021727

>>50004096
Are you white?

>> No.50021786

>>50021704
You're right, Hitler would have doubled down on making the dollarinos for Mr. Shekelberg.
You live in an overleveraged economy as a member of the aristocracy. Use your free time for more important things

>> No.50021874

>>50002700
Say that you're autistic and either non-binary if they're libtards or concerned about inflation if they're trumpkins. Then get a lawyer on retainer and let them know you have one in a non-threatening way (leave his card on your desk).

>> No.50021876

>>50021446
Zoomers are fucking retards that believe anything in the internet. Also phishing is skiddie tier at best unless you do some impressive DNS spoofing shenanigans.

>> No.50021882

>>50005714
Lol

>> No.50021972

>>50021876
DNS spoofing?

Why? I mean, whats the secret?

1.Buy domain which is convincing
2.Rent VPS from Moldavia
3.Point Domain to static ip of VPS

Am I missing something here? I can also do keyloggers and more stuff but thats harder and probably less profitable

>> No.50021973

>>50004119
The thing is… if you have a client, the longer it takes for the code to be done, the more expensive it get.
The client has to pay more, and it’s usually the company you’re working for.
If you overdeliver, do something else in that free time you have, learn a new tech, get better at coding, work on yourself, but don’t turn in the work and ask for more, you will become cheap for the company that hired you and your boomer colleagues will hate you.
I was like this when I started 4 years ago, but I was lucky enough to be the only devops in the team, so they were glad I finished everything faster than they expected, even got a bonus (extremely low because I had a small wage).
But really, it doesn’t make sense to over deliver work on yourself, get experience in the field.
You can be a senior in 3 years if you amass knowledge and experience.
Also, fake social interactions, try to act normie. There are some marketing tricks that can help you, maybe look into that.
Also, personal image helps a lot when interacting with normies.
Unironically, looksmaxx.
That + your knowledge, you can get pretty far in life, also look into becomming a contractor.
Good luck.

>> No.50021986

>>50021446
Thing that worked pretty well recently was Google ads for 1:1 copy of DEX website with one different letter like uniswaq etc. Almost fell for one of those

>> No.50022010

>>50021972
If someone notices that the URL is weird it won't work. If you make the DNS redirect to your server, shit gets serious. It can be done through a man in the middle attack if you are in the same network as the victim.

>> No.50022069

>>50021986
Lol. Im doing something similar. 1:1 clone of something but with a twist.

Pancakeswap scams were plenty some time ago. That uniswaq one seems really good desu.

>>50022010
Yeah the idea is mass sending it, who cares about one guy. Who would be in the same network as my VPS, beside the company that owns it?

>> No.50022125

>>50022010
Also, AFAIK you cant redirect anymore like that. Ive tried woth the classic tools Ettercap, Bettercap, etc, but their SSL strip doesnt work anymore.

Old method desu and outdated

>> No.50022142

>>50004541
Just tell them you're an autodidact and would like to propose some ways they can manage you better, like regular check-ins (do you guys have a daily standup?) where you outline the problems you ran into and how you solved them. This way they can add their 2 cents and steer you into using better practices while also being aware of what you have been upto. This will 100% smooth over all the problems you are currently experiencing.

>> No.50022296

>>50022125
Script kiddie kys

>> No.50022320

Also popular back in the day were sites on which you could buy roblox in-game currency. You won't believe how many small devils get a hand of mommy's credit card. Bet something similar would work today

>> No.50022328

>>50022296
Sorry im a junior. Can you, great coder senior ex Google ex Facebook techlead explain to me how you strip https to http?

This is unironic btw. I would really like to know.

>> No.50022343

>>50022320
That worked with pretty much any game with low-mid popularity, mostly mmorpgs since these were grindy and p2w.

>> No.50022362

>>50002700
Lead dev here. Sounds like you’re rushing out poorly written code that may solve the issue but does not match existing dev patterns or is buggy. Your lack of industry experience is probably apparent in your commits but your teammates are too big of pussies to say it.

>> No.50022409

>>50022362
The normie will prefer to fire someone than tell them their code sucks.

Anything to avoid social comfort.

>> No.50022460

>>50008714
How much is your bootcamp?

>> No.50023023

>>50004047
I got told the exact same shit. I didn't listen and kept busting my ass. Now I outrank the people I started with. Don't let the crabs pull you back in the bucket.

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>>50013394
>it just raises the bar for normal people
haha seethe more unskilled retard

>> No.50023150

>>50002700
I hate work politics and boomers so fucking much
They simultaneously bitch about how youngins don't work hard these days and how some upstart is showing them up for the lazy shits they are by blowing them the fuck out with his pace

>> No.50023945

>>50003398

There is nothing more cucked than wageing for a startup. You are building out your own wagecage for no security and no benefits.

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Threads like this make me realize why boomers want everyone back in the office.

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UPDATE:

I'm baseding it out big time. Using emojis, asking big questions, etc.

I've never typed such onions in my life.

Sending big messages, just going ham with the onions and asking everyone how to do stuff.

>> No.50024869

>>50022328
it's really a matter of redirecting a connection from one port to another (IF there even is a port serving plaintext http traffic), forcing an https serving port to suddenly serve http traffic is never gonna work
any modern web server worth its salt is gonna have the opposite, ie. an automatic redirect from http to https because who the fuck wants to use a completely unsecured connection?