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I have had numerous conversations with a friend that is under investigation, we talk a lot about our criminal cases on discord calls. If his phone isn't bugged, is it still possible for LE to get his past discord calls or does discord not save those voice calls?

>> No.49933493

>>49933274
>business & finance

Also you’re going to get raped in prison

>> No.49933519

>>49933274
Nigger did you miss the entire Snowden fiasco or were you still in your dad's balls in 2010?

>> No.49933524

>>49933274
It's too late anon, you're going to prison

>> No.49933572

You were in a 3 way call the entire time anon

>> No.49933588

>>49933274
roll for friend being cia all along

>> No.49933606

>>49933274
Dumbass
It's the worst.
Do you even read Stallmans site?

>> No.49933720

>>49933274
prior cases have shown that discord calls are not stored, and discord messages that have been deleted are removed from discords servers within a week. if your friend was ALREADY being monitored while you said stupid shit, thrn you're fucked. but anything predating him being tapped is a non-issue

>> No.49933740

>>49933588
The dubs have spoken

>> No.49933746

>>49933588
dubs confirm

>> No.49933779

i doubt they do considering they operations are fucking shit

>> No.49933792

>>49933720
His phone is not tapped as he just got a new phone not even in his name and a new discord after the arrest, hes out on bail, so as long as discord does not save audio calls I guess we should be good.

>> No.49933791

>>49933274
>he thinks anything he does or says around anything connected to the internet isn't accessible and could be logged
NGMI

>> No.49933842

>>49933791
I just dont think its possible for every audio and video call for these big apps to be recorded and saved, it would be far too much in data and storage. I know anything involving a cellular network is recorded but I didn't think apps like discord and telegram would be.

>> No.49933901

>>49933274
Why the fuck would you use discord for such shit instead of a call on Signal or any other actually secure comms?

>> No.49933918
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49933918

Everything is logged, but I wouldn't worry about it unless you're terrorists.

>> No.49933919

>>49933842
>What is compression and archiving?
NGMI

>> No.49933953

>>49933918
Pretty much this. Anything anyone does online or on an internet connected device is accessible, and if you take steps to make accessing that data more difficult it just flags you for a deeper review. Unless you're talking about some actually fucked up shit it's a non-issue and isn't worth following up on.

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>>49933842
They have servers the size of towns. Storage is not a problem.

>> No.49933991

>>49933274
Meet in person and pass post-its back and forth. Only way to be safe.

>> No.49933999

>>49933274
You're never alone.

>> No.49934012

>>49933588
Checked

>> No.49934032

>>49933953
I mean we just talk about them possibly bringing charges for other things related to his arrest, but we are basically admitting to these other things in the discord calls as we are talking about it. This is what im concerned.

>> No.49934036

>>49933999
Trips of truth checked

>> No.49934068

>>49933901
We have used signal but my retard friend decided he doesn't want to talk on signal because hes a lazy fucking retard that just prefers to use discord cuz hes a fucking neet faggot. I wanna know if our convos on discord are compromised, they are all audio calls, not messages.

>> No.49934072

>>49934032
Depends entirely on whether or not whatever branch of law enforcement for your locale was monitoring those connections, if it happened after your friend was initially arrested then you're probably somewhat boned if it's a big enough deal to hem you up for something else unrelated. The fact that you made a thread on the internet about it is peak retard if you think you're being monitored or were in the past.

>> No.49934165

>>49934072
I'm not being monitored, I'm not even in the same country. I literally asked about this a week ago on here but im just a paranoid retard and keep thinking about it. He got his devices seized for looking and downloading CP, I have nothing to do with that shit, but I was doing his online courses for university for money. Apparently this is a federal fraud crime and I'm afraid they are gonna take the numerous messages from before the arrest about this arrangement of me doing his classes for federal aid and the discord calls of us talking about them after the arrest possibly actually looking into me doing this for him and fucking me in the ass. Basically ruins my life if they charge me with a federal crime for doing his fucking homework and getting his aid money.

>> No.49934176

>>49933588
ahahaha

>> No.49934243

>>49934165
D-did you just admit to committing fraud in a public forum and being friends with a literal convicted pedo? Holy fuck I now understand why glows exist.

>> No.49934358

>>49934243
You gonna just troll me or can you actually give me the likelihood they are gonna fuck me in the ass?

>> No.49934369

>>49934165
Get a lawyer for when they inevitably knock on your door. Don't even say goodmorning sirs without your lawyer present. The 5th amendment exists to protect dumbasses from themselves.

>> No.49934386

>>49934358
You probably won't get fucked unless it was for a massive amount of money you didn't pay taxes on, but you're legitimately an idiot with degenerate friends and should probably work on unfucking yourself and turning your life around and having at least some semblance of morality and dignity in your life. Or else you will absolutely end up getting fucked.

>> No.49934581

>>49933991
but then you need to make sure they burn the note after reading, otherwise there is a literal paper trail. you need to encode the messages you write first.

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49934602

>>49933588
checked OP is fucked

>> No.49934605

>>49934068
Your friend is an informant, retard

>> No.49934618

>>49933274
your friend should go to jail

>> No.49934639

>>49934165
Well you're fucked now bud

>> No.49934731

>>49934639
He's not lol,and he def is going to jail. Will just take a year or 2 for him to actually be sentenced.

>> No.49934795

>>49933964
Storage is a problem when they want to record me sitting nude infront of my untaped 8K webcam. For 19hrs a day

>> No.49934891

>>49934165
Np just keep his CP safe for a fee until he comes out of prison. After all there is no rehabilitating pedos.

>> No.49934904

>>49934068
>have a record
>use a encryption to hide from law enforcement
You're digging a hole for yourself.
Nothing is more suspicious then encryption and VPNs. It's like an invisible man moving your furniture, you're gonna check it out

>> No.49935025

>>49933953
Imagine a file on everyone. Everything you said or did online could be used against you for a future crime or dirt if you somehow became influential. It’s pretty frightening if that got into the hands of a tyrant. Any fed that supports this should be ashamed.

>> No.49935082

>>49933274
probably for a short period of time but audio data is a lot bigger than text so its going to pile up fast and i really doubt discord is inclined to deal with all of it

can the feds tap into your conservations live at any time?
sure definitely if they have probable cause

>> No.49935098

>>49934165
No offense but people already told you in previous threads to not worry no ones going to care. But you keep sticking your head out

>> No.49935140

>>49934904
I guess i can just kms if I get charged, no biggie.

>> No.49935185

>>49935098
I know man If I was single with no kids I wouldn't give a fuck about possible jail time, but with kids its a fucking nightmare, I cant fucking sleep at night thinking about this shit when I could have to go years without them. Fucking bs but I guess I need to just shut the fuck up and force myself to stop thinking about it, I think I have some paranoia disorder or something.

>> No.49935275

>>49935185
You should quit doing fraudulent shit if you want to be a part of your kids lives, yes. That should've already been obvious but here we are, and consider this all to be a massive wakeup call.
>>49935025
Already exists, every major country on earth has their own version of as much.

>> No.49935406

Buddy, the anti pedo agents in charge of a cp sting operation do not give a flying fuck about you doing some dude's homework, if you were sending or receiving cp from him over discord than yeah you're definitely fucked but if this story is legit you have nothing to worry about

>> No.49935450

>>49935406
thank you

>> No.49935499

Use matrix chat you retard

>> No.49935594

>>49933842
Forgetting storage on discord, did he buy a new router? They use those all the time to basically send all your search history directly to the laptops of the investigating agents.
Or they use the isp to route your traffic through their centers.
Good luck mate.
If his crime is small like less than a 3 year sentence they won’t pull out the big guns.
But if it’s bigger than that you’d better clear your house and shut down so you don’t get rolled up with him.

>> No.49935673

>>49935594
He moved to a different house, and I think his charges if it goes federal is like 5 years for possession, his bail wasn't very high so I doubt they are looking into him really. It was a big sting in the county and they grabbed him up with a bunch of other people but those other guys had like 6x his bail for some reason. So Im thinking hes the smallest fish out of that sting.

>> No.49935731

>>49933274
Learn from psychopaths and poker players.
Pretend nothing bad happened and you didn't do anything, and that's what will happen.
The law of attraction will attract what you think.
Stop thinking about it.

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49935747

>>49933588
Nice get

>> No.49935837

>>49934165
I doubt they are going to care about doing a foreigners coursework, otherwise half of India would be in jail by now. Also I got a calculus test tomorrow so do the needful sirs

>> No.49935895

>>49935837
I'm not a foreigner, just in a foreign country for the time being. It's part of the reason why I even did his homework, I need the money cuz this country has an average wage of $1 USD per hour. I won't get into why im here, but its whats causing me to do stupid shit for money. I would have just rather worked like a wage slave for 1 dollar an hour though to not deal with this headache.

>> No.49936219

>>49934795
not if they store the string "anon is sitting nude in front of his webcam for 19 hours on day x"

>> No.49936255

>>49933274
yes. that's why /g/ calls it botnet

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>>49935731
people really out here thinking they can manifest themselves out of a prison sentence

>> No.49936309

>>49933588
KEK

>> No.49936346

>>49933720
Bs:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31397156

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49936363

>>49933274
LMAOOOOOOOOOO
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LMFAOOOOOOOOO AND TOO MUCH OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>2022
>IS MY DIGITAL EXPERIENCE BEING MONITORED AND ARCHIVED?
> IS THE LARGEST CHAT APP ON EARTH BEING DATA MINED?
LMAOOOOOO

>> No.49936528

>>49936346
Read that, seems to be just info on ip addresses, name, location, etc... Not actual audio call recordings.

>> No.49936548

>>49935673
he's probably the snitch

>> No.49936579

>>49936548
Have not been snitched on, I'm just paranoid about the computer foresnics guy relaying any info he sees in the chats of my retard friends phone of me doing his online classes for money.

>> No.49936585

>>49936363
Of course. Discord messages and voice traffic is completely unencrypted. Why would they do that when many many other communication services are end to end encrypted by default. Weird..
And discord came out of nowhere and is the gaming/young people ‘community’ communication app of choice. Destroying all the competition within a matter of a couple of years. Weird!

>we can trust the founder though!
OpenFeint was founded by Jason Citron,[2] who later founded Discord.
OpenFeint was a social platform for mobile games for devices running on Android or iOS. It was developed by Aurora Feint, a company named after a video game by the same developers.[1] The platform consisted of an SDK for use by games, allowing its various social networking features to be integrated into the game's functionality.

That sounds a bit like discord. Very weird.

>what happened to OpenFeint then?
In 2011, OpenFeint was party to a class action suit with allegations including computer fraud, invasion of privacy, breach of contract, bad faith and seven other statutory violations. According to a news report "OpenFeint's business plan included accessing and disclosing personal information without authorization to mobile-device application developers, advertising networks and web-analytic vendors that market mobile applications".[8]

He’d never do anything like that again though!

Anons will read this and keep using discord.

>> No.49936655

>>49933274
Why would you talk about your criminal cases on discord calls?

>> No.49936809

>>49934165
Can you please clarify which countries you and your friend reside? This is important in analyzing how each of your offense(s) are handled in your respective country laws.

Thanks.

>> No.49936845

>>49936809
Can we talk about it over discord voice call? Whats your user? ======]

>> No.49936955

>>49936845
Yes, I would like that. My discord username is redcurtain#3498. Please add me ASAP and let's chat about how we can improve your situation. Look forward to speaking with you soon.

John

>> No.49936993

>>49936955
When you relay this chat to the F.B.I, will you put in a good word for me Mr.Johnny Sins?

>> No.49937011

>>49933274
Yea discord does. Owner is a faggot.

>> No.49937017

>>49933274
>does obvious thing obviously happen
that's you

>> No.49937038

Will saying the N word over and over improve my chances of getting off the hook? There are at least 5000 messages of me just saying Nigger over and over for hours. Is this a plus or a minus?

>> No.49937046

It is safe to assume that at all times your lines are tapped. Every email you send, every private message, every phone call. You have no privacy.

>> No.49937080

>>49937046
Will they play the recording of me saying nigger for an hour straight during the phone call in court as a defamation of my character? Judge is most likely gonna be white right? So maybe a reduction in my sentence? Mitigating factor maybe?

>> No.49937209

>>49936993
Haha, what makes you say that? Just trying to help is all. You can take it or leave it. But if I were in your shoes...I'd take all the help I could get right now.

>> No.49937231

>>49937209
Ok officer, for a can of coke and a butterfinger, you have a deal.

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>>49935895
Favela macaco sucks indeed.

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49937493

>>49937046
And we know the bicycle and rabbits bit too.