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this is unironically the only surefire way to get ahead in life as a working class man

>> No.49930372

>>49930123
>commit complex multistage welfare fraud in order to earn a total of $75000 a year
Seems like a lot of work and moral corruption for little reward.

>> No.49930405

>>49930372
>moral corruption
holy fucking good goy

>> No.49930574 [DELETED] 

>>49930405
>expose own mother, mother of your children, and yourself to significant risk of financial penalties or jail time
>teach your children that stealing is preferable to actual work
>in order to get gibs equal to 1 person having a job
I knew you are a brown but you just got several shades darker.

>> No.49930782

>>49930574
>stealing
lold, at least half the plan isnt even illegal, this is literally how any larger corporation operates, only lower cattle learns to obey blindly like a npc and then gets jelly when others get ahead by acting smarter.

>> No.49930825

>>49930372
my mexican neighbors do this, how complicated can it be

>> No.49930844

>>49930123
>explaining a complex scam to a woman and getting her to go along with it without fucking it up
>just get a house deposit

>> No.49930866

delet this

>> No.49930919 [DELETED] 

>>49930372
>>49930574
Dumb whiteoid

>> No.49930975

>>49930372
>>49930574
lmao @ the absolute state of yt

>> No.49930976

>>49930372
Not welfare fraud since the two aren't married.
However relying on the girl to not get greedy and sue for child support is a huge single point of failure which would likely result in financial loss. The girlfriend would have to be both down for morally grey stuff and loyal, which is an extremely rare combination of traits for a woman.

>> No.49930990

>>49930372
Why fraud? Not marrying isn't fraud. About every benefit stems from the fact they didn't marry.

>> No.49931063

>>49930976
Who cares if she sued for child support? You would have to pay for the children when you were married. The list probably implies that both the parents pay for the children and thus cooperate.

>> No.49931069

>>49930372
>a lot of work

You kidding?

>> No.49931121

>>49930123
Brainlet who wrote this. What happens is government will sue you to get you pay child support, pay 50% of health insurance, default child custody agreement and recover birthing costs

They don't want you to come up off of them.

>> No.49931195

>>49931063
She doesn't have to sue you. The state will sue you on her behalf if she is on medicaid.

>> No.49931253

>>49930123
The only illegal part is living with her while claiming you love with your mother. Everything else is legal.

>> No.49931319

>>49931063
If she's getting support from you then she no longer needs welfare and you're eating losses on the payments while having to hope that the money is actually spent on the children. Furthermore since "rent" counts as income and child support is deducted from income, should the payments be enough to offset guarantees of making mortgage payments you'd be at risk of losing the property. This is without even considering other things like judges placing liens against your assets should they determine you owe your girlfriend child support debt in excess of your income.
Basically the whole plan collapses in on itself if she gets stupid.

And again, a girl who is both morally grey and loyal is rare. Very rare. Women are usually loyal when they havea real fear of God or Government, which means they wont be morally grey. And women who are morally grey dont tend to mull over philosophy deep enough to result in a personal choice of adherence to the principle of loyalty. The plan is good on paper but unlikely to work in practice.

>> No.49931374 [DELETED] 

>>49930372
Based, no wonder the US is collapsing with all the retarded melanin enriched comments replying to your post.

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>>49930123
>girlfriend finds tyrone
>tyrone wants gibs
>they kick you out of house
>boyfriend now homeless and forced to pay child support
>gf and tyrone live off gibs + child support

>> No.49931495 [DELETED] 

>>49930123
OP's ID is the color of his nigger skin

>> No.49931599

>>49930123
It's called a fraud and will get you to prison for multiple years.

>> No.49931838

All the irs fags are right UNLESS
>you pay her child support
>use house as primary residence for VA, FHA, etc. loans and then move out
>probably some other stuff

>> No.49932049

>>49930123
Huh? Am I reading this right? Unmarried couples get benefits that married couples don't? Why would anyone marry then?

>> No.49932161

>>49932049
because slaves do as they are told. just look at this thread and realize that.

>> No.49932465

>>49930123
>The survaillence state fixes this.

>> No.49932517

>>49930372
you have to be absolutely fucking RETARDED to fuck this up. As long as everyone cooperates it's so goddamn easy.

>> No.49932582

>>49930123
Is there a Canadian version of this? Asking for a friend, eh.

>> No.49932627

>>49931452
Now, how often do you go on 4chan and post your interracial fanfictions in completely unrelated threads? Is that legitimately the first thing you think of?

>> No.49932710

>>49930574
Elon Musk claims to be a "small government" guy and yet takes billions in government contracts, somehow I don't think my child will ever see moral rigidity as successful

>> No.49932743

why does the mail have to be sent to moms house?
I have a gf but no kids, mommy has funds to help me get a house in my name (im white)

could this also work if you hooked up wtih a single mom?
I work, and she collects benefits so were both contributing to the household\?
or does the child also have to be your blood
(minus the $1800 head of household credit, is that per month or per year?)

>> No.49932750

>>49930574
>teach your children that stealing is preferable to actual work
What the fuck is taxes. I'm getting my money back fuck them!

>> No.49932805

>>49932049
It's real unfortunately. That's what welfare is. Not sure about all the details. Go ask the adults in your family if they know of some couple like this. They probably do.

>> No.49932878

>>49930372
>Being black is wrong
This is why whites are being replaced. Too many fell for Boomers Worldview

>> No.49932922 [DELETED] 

>>49930574
No wonder Jews get ahead. Look at their competition;
retarded boomers brainwashed by everything

>> No.49933023

>>49932049

It's not because they are "unmarried" it's because they are "single parents". Yes, I know that's only because they are unmarried, but the children (and therefore single Parenthood) is the deciding factor, not marital status.

They get married almost entirely due to ignorance and social pressure. I've posted things similar to the OP and people will reply insisting that it's the married people that get benefits.

Welfare scam or not, fact of the matter is that single parent dregs get showered in free money.

>> No.49933082

>>49930574
>>in order to get gibs equal to 1 person having a job
can you really put a price on having a mother at home to take care of your children though?
also my gf is not capable of earning $75,000 a year

>> No.49933152

>>49932743

Sending mail to the mom's house is the fraud component of this. You're reporting as though you are living somewhere that you aren't. If you are living together then all income is "household income".

It still works legally if you have a separate living unit with its own private entrance. (ADU). The home is owned by an LLC (that you own) and you both pay rent for your piece. Separate residences, separate addresses indicated by Unit A and Unit B.

One child per tax return, biological, foster, adoptive or step. Step requires marriage and you don't have the other 3.

>> No.49933166

>>49933023
>>49930123
i think gov solved that, there was some bullshit along the line of "if you live together gov calls you marriedTM and gives you all the regular obligations for it". It came up in context of a forum where women were discussing if she could hook the guy based on existing law.

>> No.49933182

>>49932517

>As long as everyone cooperates it's so goddamn easy.

Good one.

>> No.49933426 [DELETED] 

>>49930123
this is exactly how black people in the USA squandered any progress that they made

>> No.49933437

>>49933152
>Sending mail to the mom's house is the fraud component of this. You're reporting as though you are living somewhere that you aren't.
You are living with your mom obviously, and just visiting your property and tenant occasionally?

>> No.49933482

>>49933437
>visiting your property and tenant occasionally?
easily fraud if you're actually sleeping over tho

not much of a life to have a family you can only "visit"

>> No.49933488

>>49933152
>Sending mail to the mom's house is the fraud component of this. You're reporting as though you are living somewhere that you aren't. If you are living together then all income is "household income".
hmmmmm... ive been claiming residency at my parents house forever. ive always paid rent in cash to friends. and then for a few years i claimed homeless (vanlife)

ive been renting in a place for three years now, and even though ive been writing checks to my landlord for rent, she wont returned me a signed rental agreement.
I asked for it two years ago and then she sent me a rental agreement to fill out, but never returned a signed copy. this is good, yes?

>> No.49933533

Lol I used to work as a social worker and I gotta tell you, anyone who thinks this shit is true in 2022 will be absolutely fucked if they ever fall on hard times and seek help. You're a fucking retarded boomer who gets his name from Facebook posts if you think people get this many hand outs. I cnt tell you how many boomers were like "well I lost my job, I'll take my welfare now please" and practically shit themselves when they got like $200 in food stamps, 1 $500 voucher for utilities that was supposed to last the whole year and And were told section 8 had a 6 year waiting list. And they were always white boomers too.

>> No.49933555

>>49933437
So you either
>Don't live with your gf and kids majority of the time
Or
>Fraud
Which is worse?

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>>49931319
dont claim the kids as yours. then you dont have to pay child support, she gets gibs to rent the house you live in, that you bought and are renting out to a mother and her to kids. this is a fucken great idea. make the government pay their fair share

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>>49933166

Most states have common law marriage. That's why the OP says to report your address of residence somewhere else. You can still exploit it by sleeping in two different addresses. (Duplex, ADU). You don't live at the same address this way.

The alternative solution is to just be legitimately low income. If you own your home and cars outright then your expenses are very low. Bonus points if you've got a solar array and an electric vehicle.

Average household will net around 60k after taxes. Housing and transport is 35%. Since low income people have their health, insurance, food, and most utilities covered it's another 25% you don't have to pay for. You only need 40% of that 60k net to have an equivalent lifestyle, so 24k per year. With a $5,980 earned income credit payment for two kids you can get away with just earning $18,020 between the two of you to live an equivalent lifestyle.

Actual values might vary, but the point stands. It pays very well to be low income and have low expenses. The more you can do for yourself the less you have to buy, the less you have to buy the less you have to earn, and the less you earn the more gibs you can get.

>> No.49933638

>>49933437

I didn't say it was enforceable/you couldn't get away with it. I just said that it was fraudulent.

>> No.49933642

>>49933533
>they were white boomer too
That explains it, they simply won’t give gibs to whites.

>> No.49933667

>>49930372
>fraud
what's fraudulent about it faggot?

>> No.49933684

>>49933533

And like every social worker I've had the pleasure to work with, you are clueless. Almost all those programs are federal programs. Completely outside your jurisdiction, and your employer (the state) wants as many of those fedbux flowing in as possible.

>> No.49933708

>>49930574
>actual work
boomer moment

>> No.49933735

>>49933488

I don't help people do fraud. It is fraudulent to claim false residence. It's up to you to figure out the details and determine if the risk of commiting that crime is worth it.

Plenty of legal ways to get the same result without being fraudulent. Get a duplex and sleep most nights in your unit.

>> No.49933739

>>49930123
Not going to lie. I want to do this with my GF if she get prego

>> No.49933754

>>49933642
>That explains it, they simply won’t give gibs to whites.
Once you realize the big plan you'll realize that OP's regurgitated idea won't work at all.

There's really no escape for whites because you're supposed to be boxed in.

>> No.49933755

>>49933667

False residence. Qualification for almost all those benefits hinges on that. Plenty of stuff that doesn't though.

>> No.49933775

>>49933684
Lmao you are the misguided one, friend. Social workers exist outside of state and federal jurisdiction. social worker is a licensed professional, that's it I worked for a national non profit agency called United Way. And I worked with connecting to people to all govt level services, as well as private services. Sorry to tell you, no one - not black single moms, refugees, or illegal south American immigrants - are getting tons of gibs. They get some, but not to the extent that OP's pic implies. And it certainly isn't easy.

>> No.49933799

>>49933754
Lol you really think the ghettos are full of people just rolling around in free money, huh? Fucking leak delusional boomer shit. The real truth is there's no safety nets for anyone. Any idea you have of gibs is an illusion.

>> No.49933819

>>49930976
>sue for child support
If she does kick her out of the house. Presumably she was getting support from you already.
So if she want to break it off now she has to find her own place and is the "child support" going to cut it.
It is so much better if guys don't get married.

>> No.49933838

>>49933799
1800 off taxes is nice.

>> No.49933877 [DELETED] 

>>49930574
hey white boy, everyone is fucking laughing at you while you comp their life
it's not honorable, it's pathetic

>> No.49933905

>>49933775

LMAO WHAT?

So you aren't even a state employed social worker like for DHS? And you're talking like you have an understanding of government benefits? Nigga doesn't even work for the government but thinks he understands the government.

I gave you the benefit of assuming you understood state level programs but were clueless to federal level programs. Turns out you're clueless to BOTH. Fucking hilarious, but not too unexpected from a social worker.

Pro tip: if you're working at a for profit they keep you in the dark about what you can do. Your are in a benefit denial role. State level social workers have a financial interest in bilking the feds for as much as they can.

>> No.49933921

>>49930123
>boomer…ellipses…
>no sources for information
>thinks out debt is some how because of this
>uses the term “pay their way”
Yeah it’s boomer Facebook click bait horseshit. How can these people be so fucking dumb?

>> No.49933947

>>49933755
>False residence.
How is it false?

>> No.49933949

>>49933775

And yes, the united way is a for profit, almost all non-profits are in name only. They have to keep the ship running and they do that by cutting costs and paying lip service.

>> No.49933959

>>49933905
Lmao imagine thinking theres some kind of mysterious gate keeping to benefits. Dumbass, the fed + state agencies off load the work to non-profits like mine (not for-profit, not sure where you pulled that one from). We literally have a direct pipeline into benefits and programs at all government and NGO levels. Sorry some state wagie denied you disability for your autism, but you're not making any real good arguments here and honestly not even sure what your point is? Seems like you're just really obsessed with validating some idea you have that people are out here making bank on gibs when that clearly isn't the case.

>> No.49933963

>>49933947

If you don't live at your mom's and you say you live at your mom's then you have lied about that.

>> No.49933996

>>49933949
You sound like every mental case I met who has a vendetta against the system because he was forcibly locked away in the psych ward after going off his meds. Sucks, but maybe stay on your meds next time.

>> No.49934009

>>49933963
What if I get a duplex and connect the two parts. My GF "lives" on one half and I "live" on the other half. There there are like 6 kids split between us.

>> No.49934038

>>49933963
if everyone acted honest this would be it but they count you living at your moms when it benefits them too. Live abroad declare taxes abroad, the moment they catch you visiting mom and having a key to the house they claim moms place is your residence and you should pay up taxes as if you were living at moms place and therefore in state.

>> No.49934070

>>49930372
>moral corruption
Morality is the highly subjective part and as far as I can tell the government is handing it over without issue so I dont see the problem. Now the question is, is it actually legal? Surface level it looks legal but Id have to get in touch with a lawyer to make sure. The only moral issue I see is the sex outside of marriage and the obvious not following the spirit of the law and instead using nitty gritty semantics to legally take advantage of such a loop hole. It's not gonna stop those willing to do it tho.

>>49930574
>1 job
Lel you actually fell for the MSM's 70k+* salary didnt you (70k or thereabout for the AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD)
>MEDIAN wage for an INDIVIDUAL is
>drumroll
>31k

>> No.49934086

>>49933959

My dude, I was an IRS auditor. I've seen tax returns that would make your head spin. There's no better way to understand what is legal (and what people can get away with) than to have access to that kind of data, and to take those kinds of unique cases.

>> No.49934126

>>49934086
Now you're changing goal posts. You weren't talking about welfare fraud before. You were talking about how I was wrong that there aren't that many benefits as people believe. Now you're talking about how ACKTUALLY people can get alot if they perform perform fraud lol. Just admit you were wrong and save face.

>> No.49934127

>>49930976
Could 100% pull this shit with my girlfriend. Just need to get her pregnant and buy a house.

>> No.49934136

Kids are a money sink unless you sell them into slavery

>> No.49934144

>>49933152
>>49930123

The part everyone misses is school zones.
Say momma lives outta state, kid ONE has to go to school in current state where house is, kid TWO legally lives outta state, so he has to go to school there.
If he goes to school in current state it's easily probable fraud.
Same if they live 1hr+ away from eachother.

Momma needs to live close enough to pull it off

>> No.49934148

>>49933963
>If you don't live at your mom's and you say you live at your mom's then you have lied about that.
I don't think you understand how this shit works.
When I claim residency that means I am living there.
Your residency isn't determined by where you actually live.
You are an absolutely clueless boomer with zero understanding of the current ponzi.

>> No.49934157

>>49934009

Check local regulations. Majority of places is "majority of nights" slept at the address. 3 nights you sleep on her half, three night she sleeps on yours, one night you sleep in your own half.

>>49933996

Guess who's paying for that medic treatment, sucker?

These programs have budgets. That money is redistributed. You have to have low income to qualify. There are many ways to have low income and a decent standard of living.

Low IQ job, low IQ majors. Actively lied to about how things work to save money for the parent org and bilk money from outside orgs. These are the incentive structures, and you would have to be a damn fool to think people aren't maximizing the benefit to their org.

>> No.49934171

>>49934070
>sex outside of marriage
As far as I'm considered there are two types to marriages. First is the paper legal marriage. Then there is the actual marriage that a priest does.
A paper marriage means nothing.
Get marriaged by your priest and live married life. Don't get wrapped up in the bullshit the government made up.

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>>49930123
yes goy, just give up and leech off the government and be dependent on us so we can continue to print more and more money to sustain the government gibs ponzi scheme

>> No.49934187

>>49934148

....

Bullet point 11 from the OP reads "Guy moves into the home but continues to use mom's address for his mail". This is the point of contention, and this is fraudulent.

Please learn to read.

>> No.49934191

>>49934157
Lmao amazing how you just flipped your argument. Maybe take your meds so you can be more cohesive and organized from the get go.

>> No.49934205

>>49930123
>jump through hoops for peanuts and scraps
>"sorry anon but your welfare status has been denied"
I know you have to be retarded to get on welfare in the US to begin with but this image is too much.

>> No.49934229

>>49934126

Being poor isn't fraudulent. Auditors verify returns for validity. You can do a lot of things that will trigger and audit but are completely legitimate. Most individual, non-business audits do resolve this way.

>> No.49934233

>>49930123
that's called fraud

>> No.49934255

>>49934157
>majority of nights
Is a government agent going to check what side of my duplex I'm sleeping on?

>> No.49934314

>>49934191

>Social worker
>Talking about organization

No other profession has cancelled more meetings/shown up late than social workers. It's a goddamn nightmare working with them, and they all act like they have it figured out.

Dude, you didn't work for the state. You didn't work for the feds. You know nothing about either. Don't pretend like you do; these programs collect hundreds of billions in tax revenue, that money is redistributed. I would know, I've collected plenty of it.

>> No.49934337

>>49934255

I don't help people commit fraud.

>> No.49934342

>>49930123
trooning out and starting an onlyfans is unironically the best way to get ahead as an average man these days

>> No.49934365

>>49933023
Ayyo mister IRS, any other list / tricks that aren't on the list?

I didn't know about the Single Mom trick, but getting Neetbux others were saying you fake depression and other mental illnesses and make bank

>> No.49934475

>>49934342
wimp lo moment right there.

>> No.49934515

gut all social programs

>> No.49934589

>>49934314
You're really not getting it. You can talk shit about SW all you want, but it's pretty obvious you don't know wtf you're talking about. Literally anyone involved in government shit knows non-profits have been the go-to middle person to offload costs from bloated govt budgets for at least 10 years following the GFC when govt agencies were literally going bankrupt. But sure, I'm totally wrong and know literally nothing, where as an auditor knows that secretly every single mom gets $100k a year and a rolls Royce too. Right?

>> No.49934641

>>49934314
Audit bro, is it worth doing accounting or is it mind numbing crap?

Is it worth the risk to be (((diagnosed))) with "mental illnesses" to get gibs?

>> No.49934643

>>49934365

I only deal in legal tricks. Knowingly faking a mental illness is fraudulent (though who am I to rule against the totally legitimate medical opinion of a trained and licensed psychiatrist, they're the one who decided you were nuts).

Earned income credit is not on the list. It pays a ton to have a little bit of legitimate and declared income. It's $5980 with two kids up to around $27kish.

You can artificially reduce your income with large 401k/ira contributions. AGI is the magic line used to calculate most things, anything above it can allow you to earn, save, and remain "low income" for benefit purposes.

An Uber driver in an electric vehicle deducts more than the vehicle costs to operate due to the flat mileage rate, currently at 62.5 cents per mile. You can collect more in cash than you must report as income, perfect for low income tricks.

Your residence can be owned by an LLC owned by you. You pay rent to the LLC, but the LLC gets to deduct depreciation and associated expenses. Downside is that individuals can sell an appreciated house tax free up to a threshold. (250k single 500k married once every 2 years). Exercise caution and judgement with this one.

Many people have a legal basis for claiming a home office deduction in 2022. Most still don't.

Those are the most accessible tricks. I had more, but Trump plugged some holes I using.

>> No.49934708

>>49930574
No job I could ever get at this point would come even close to $75k salary. Granted I'm only 22 but that salary is accomplished by maybe 2 or 2.5 people

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>>49934643
Thanks bro.
Does any of this work in Leafistan?

>> No.49934741

>>49934589

I didn't say any of that. I said that low income people get a ton of benefits. A smart person can make use of them and there are exploits. I've seen them used, and have had the circumstances to deploy some myself.

Get married and have kids when you are dirt poor. Don't worry if you can afford it, the government will ensure that you can.

>>49934641

I personally love it, and I think you need a certain kind of autism to not be miserable. I've got it, I see plenty of others who don't have it.

Consider volunteering for VITA, or getting a job as a seasonal IRS rep. You get some quality training for free, and a trial to see if it will make you miserable. I didn't know this is what I wanted until I did a season in the call center, then I went back to get my master's for it. (Using tuition reimbursement of course)

>> No.49934763

>>49934729

Zero fucking clue. Not my jurisdiction. VAT can suck a dick.

>> No.49934791

>>49934741
>Get married and have kids when you are dirt poor. Don't worry if you can afford it, the government will ensure that you can.

Yeah dude poverty literally doesn't exist in America, everyone is just mega rich from gibs. Literally no such thing as poor families lmao

>> No.49934840

>>49934187
Like I said. You don't get it.
Legally speaking when you claim residence you live there.
Where you live doesn't cause your residency to change.
No fraud is being committed. This is how the rules LITERALLY work.

>> No.49934914

>>49930123
Same thing happens in the UK, this is an extreme case but you can easily manipulate the system to get free money

>> No.49934948

>>49934729
What province? I'm in BC and the wife and I both have disability status, $3k a month for free and I can earn $30k/yr before any of the gibs start to be clawed back. Child tax benefit adds another $500/month.

>> No.49934950

>>49932582
be native

>> No.49935023 [DELETED] 

>>49933877
post skin

>> No.49935052

How is it fraudulent to use your parents home as your mailing address. Have people never heard of a fucking P.O. Box. Since when does your mailing address have to be your residential address

>> No.49935057

>>49934791

Not for people with children. A part time job at federal minimum wage pays $7500, with one child you receive $3,600 from earned income credit, about $1800 from earned income credit, $5000 in SNAP benefits, and 0 copay health care that I won't even include since they have to treat you anyway. This pushes you north of the poverty line for two people.

Very low income people exist and they receive more in benefits than they earn from wages, even if they only claim the most basic benefits. Nobody is dying of poverty here.

>> No.49935083

>>49934840

And the OP explicitly tells you not to do this and instead move in while claiming another address.

I don't get what your hang up is dude. Yeah, you have to be truthful about your residence. We agree on this. The OP tells people not to do this. This is the only problem.

>> No.49935115

>>49934144
What is home school

>> No.49935131

>>49930372
>fraud
>a lot of work

Literally every nigger in America is doing this shit you better call EDD and report them bro

>> No.49935172

>>49930976
Consigliere chad

>> No.49935177 [DELETED] 

>>49934791
This, but unironically.

You have to be subhuman levels of retarded or a combo of wayyyy to moral and dumb to not have a comfy life with all the gibs. Every "poor" nigger i see has a newer phone and car than me and I am a successful Accountant. That's why all of the low IQ monkeys vote Democrat. Gibs gibs gibs. Democrats will burn in hell for destroying this beautiful country that the white man made.

>> No.49935178

>>49934708
>>in order to get gibs equal to 1 person having a job
lol starting salary in finance is $80k these days

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>>49935057
Wow anon! Snap and eic?!?! Wooooah so these were the mysterious welath generating super duper secret govt programs you talked about! Wowooooow thank you for letting me in on your secret store of wealth! You truly are the human version of the library of Alexandria, how could one man handle the burden of being the key to such sacred and arcane secrets like food stamps! A lowly social worker like my would surely NEVER have heard of that!!!

>> No.49935242

>>49931452
How would being married prevent any of this plus happening? You’d have to pay alimony too.

>> No.49935246

>>49930123
/pol/

>> No.49935276

>>49930123
I know a couple that got a no fault divorce so they could do this. They still like together and everything.

>> No.49935302

>>49930372
retarded faggot

>> No.49935307

>>49932922
I think Orthodox Jews get to claim that their home is a temple so they don’t have to pay property taxes

>> No.49935327

>>49935083
>Yeah, you have to be truthful about your residence.
He is truthful about his residence.
What you fail to understand is that where you live and where you actually live are two different things by letter of the law.

>> No.49935338

This is why I havent married my gf no cap. Im finna do this

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>>49931452

Mutt's law NEVER fails.
Americans have nigger cock on their mind 24/7

>> No.49935367 [DELETED] 

>>49930574
This is why you are owned by jews.
Jews understand the laws of nature.
>muh morals
Make sure to pay the max taxes possible it is your responsibility to society!

>> No.49935372

>>49935327
These retards don’t understand shit. According to them millions of college kids are committing fraud because their residences while they are in uni are mommy and daddy’s house

>> No.49935384

>>49935219

... That's kind of my point dude. The most basic, surface level gibs pushes you above the poverty line, even with just a part time job at the federal minimum wage.

The middle class is getting squeezed though, no question. Hell, even two responsible, married adults working two full time MW jobs get squeezed. They work four times the hours but only get earn twice as much. (Nearly the same once you factor for section 8, LIHEAP etc, but I don't count those for simplicity's sake.

>> No.49935386

>>49930372
moral...
what the fuck is moral ? what the fuck is corruption?

>> No.49935395

>>49934948
Ontario.
It sucks here but I'm too poorfag to move

>> No.49935404

>>49930372
That 75k a year is passive income, paid directly by cucks like you.

They get to live lives of leisure and fuck, do hobbies and make kids while youre stacking shelves 80 hours a week at amazon. Lmaoooooooo

>> No.49935437

>>49935115
>modern woman
>homeschooling
Kek

>> No.49935438

>>49935307
cool it with the anti semitisim

-the united states NEOCONS

>> No.49935469

>>49931452
>Still getting the section 8 check
>house is still yours
>you only pay child support
Vs
>get married
>pay child support and alimony
>she takes half the money
>she takes half your retirement
>she takes the whole house
>she takes the cars you're still making payments on
>she never re marrys and scams the system anyway.

>> No.49935472

>>49930123
Isn’t this what the orthodox jews do in ny or jersey?

>> No.49935475

>>49935384
>Changes the goal post so often that he doesn't even know what point he's trying to make
Lol ok Mr IRS.

>> No.49935479

>>49935327

I'll humor you. Go show me a reference saying that your residence address is not where you live.

>>49935372

Temporary absence dumbass. It's permitted on the assumption that you will return. It also wouldn't do you a lick of good in qualifying for gibs to be lumped in with their household and their income, so the point is moot.

>> No.49935481

>>49935437
If she’s sitting on her ass collecting gibs then she can homeschool the kids, regardless most “homeschooling” nowadays is a hybrid where the kid gets virtual schooling and or a curriculum provided to them. The parent doesn’t actually do anything. The point is the school zones don’t matter when homeschool is an option

>> No.49935493

>>49935475

? It's crystal clear. Poverty doesn't exist because gibs push you above it. (If you have children)

>> No.49935550 [DELETED] 

>>49930574
retarded goyim

>> No.49935592

>>49935479
>temporary absence
That’s for reporting household status tard. The kid themselves would still report the parents address as their mailing address even though they are living at college. Based on your retarded faggotry they are fraudulently using their parents address as a mailing address even though they are living somewhere else

>> No.49935678

>>49935404

Hey now, it takes a lot of time to for me to wait in the emergency room every time I have a sniffle. Sometimes I even have to schedule multiple appointments to get a refill on my free Percocets and Xanax. Let's not forget the charity work I do selling my extras to hard working men and women whose employer insurance plan won't cover it or give them refills.

>> No.49935695

>>49935592

Mailing address != Residence address. Please just stop. They have to track household income to see if a household qualifies. If you say you aren't a part of that household (because you income would disqualify the household) then it is fraudulent.

If it didn't matter then why report it differently?

>> No.49935728 [DELETED] 

>>49930123
test

>> No.49935769

>>49935384
To get gibs are you only allowed to have a certain amount in your account?

I was told you can't have more then $10k for welfare.
Disability apparently is $40k

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>>49930372
>>49930574

>Play "The American Game" in much the same way jews, their (multinational) conglomerates, boomers, and politicians play.

>NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>THOSE MORALLY BANKRUPT TRICKS AND GREY AREAS OF SUPPOSED FRAUD ARE RESERVED FOR GOD'S CHOSEN AND THEIR SELECT GROUP OF PUPPETS, GOYIM!

>GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZATION IS FOR THE ELITE ONLY, Y-YOU..YOU SOCIALIST COMMIES!!

>> No.49935957

>>49935769

Correct. Not sure about the raw values but there are "wealth" limits. Secret is that this doesn't include retirement accounts, personal automobiles (in most states), homes, and personal possessions. Only "countable" assets.

>> No.49936006

>>49935957
Would gold coins and crypto be a way around that limit too?

>> No.49936062

>>49933482
I’m not visiting I fucking live there and if anybody comes to check (they won’t) then I’m just visiting

>> No.49936117

>>49930123
Nothing on this list is factual, or possible.

Oh, wait, it's 4chan. OMG FUCK THE JEWS AND ROASTIES

>> No.49936162

>>49936006

Not sure. Legally probably not. There's not a specific provision excluding that specific asset class from consideration. You'd have to argue "personal use", which is dodgy at best.

It's a gray area where it's unregistered and not "countable", but also not specifically permitted. If you sold enough then you would have an income event and disqualify yourself.

>> No.49936177

>>49930372
Mate have you seen how fucked things are? Open your eyes. People are choosing this as there career path. Things are going down the drain

>> No.49936298

>>49936177

Its the only thing that's actually indexed for inflation. Not even federal salaries have indexed for inflation.

It's no wonder the IRS is backlogged. New agents pretty much all start at GS-5, require a bachelor's, and start at 38k.

>> No.49936337

Sorry, im not black.

>> No.49936572

>>49930123
1. Irrelevant
2. See #3
3. See #4
4. Better fill out all of the paperwork for it, or you get a tax franchise enema.
5. Section 8 is a long ass process, and very invasive. Would be difficult even for a single black mother. They will also usually only pay for the going rate for a specific area, and the amount varies widely state to state and county to county. And, they will see that your name is on the deed, which means if they get even a whiff that you’re involved with her, like your name being on their birth certificates, you’re fucked. And yes, they check. They have access to all Federal and state databases.
6. Obamacare is not free. Medicaid is the free (mostly) healthcare for poor single mothers and children. You should really learn how the system works, before you write up lame made up ways to exploit it.
7. And, so what? Her tuition is free/mostly free, but she’s not getting cash money from it. Pell grants are applied directly to the school for tuition and registration and other costs, and the small amount left over can be disbursed for things like books. It’s hundreds of dollars, at most. The average pell is $4k, not $6k + $12k, whoever wrote this reached DEEP into their ass on that.
8. The average amount of food stamps across the country monthly is $200, and it caps at $300 for Alaskan natives.
Cont...

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>>49936177

My first apartment in 2005 was a 1 BR that cost 50 hours of local MW. Delivered pizza and could pay my half with one weeknd's worth of tips. Same apartment costs 120 hours now.

Young people who have never paid rent. They have zero frame of reference for how bad it is, let alone how much worse it's gotten.

>> No.49936593

>>49930123
Cont...
9. Probably the likely thing on the list, welfare phones aren’t hard to get. But it’s one line per household, and it’s shit phones.
10. Nope.
11. You do understand the states monitors things like this, right?
12. You cannot claim head of household in a house you don’t live in, moron. I know this is incel larping, but whoever wrote this is really fucking stupid.
13. Good luck with that. I know a single mother who got a legit disability with a fucked up back from a job, and it took her 7 years to get past the paperwork, got turned down twice before getting into the system, and she gets nowhere near $1800 a month. And, you get some of the previous list, OR disability. You don’t get all of it. The woman I know couldn’t get food stamps because of her disability checks, they told her it was already covered under her disability.

And, a married couple get tax credits that are way more than 0, but this is incels who don’t know how the world works.

The author of this is a fucking mongoloid retard.

>> No.49936611

>>49930976
> However relying on the girl to not get greedy and sue for child support is a huge single point of failure which would likely result in financial loss.

If you have nothing then she won’t be able to sue for anything

>> No.49936885

>>49936298
Is it true they (IRS and gov jobs) only want minorities or is it a bluff and they honestly don't care?

>> No.49936975

>>49930123
>Sacrifice the proper order of the family and the future of your children for $75k a year
At least now they are being honest and upfront about it. This is the exact reason those "social services" exist in the first place. To get the servant class away from the family unit which produces competent men and women. The number one indicator if a child will be a criminal or not as they grow older is whether they come from a broken home or a married one. Fuck yourself OP, you want to do this go pass laws in Israel to do it there.

>> No.49937053

>>49936975
The numbers in the OP are made up and fictional, but you wrote a lame /pol screed about it anyway.

Oh, wait, that's standard here.

>> No.49937155

>>49930372
really nigga?

>> No.49937187

>>49930976
>However relying on the girl to not get greedy and sue for child support is a huge single point of failure which would likely result in financial loss.
true, but there are ways to test a girl before you knock her up

>> No.49937228

>>49936885
It's /pol fantasy. They have to hire quotas, but plenty of non-minorities get in.

Why you'd want to work there is beyond me.

>> No.49937364

>>49936885

Priority for veterans and disabled only. It's the only thing that has forms and specific instructions on how to process applicants on a non-competitive arrangement. Say what you will about the feds, but they are remarkably good about following policy and procedure. The corrupt contracts are handed out at the senatorial level, or the provisions are encoded for.

TONS of visually impaired people. Total badasses, each and every one of them. All very high effort and good at their jobs. Way more committed to memory, since looking it up is a pain in the ass. One guy could recite from the pub 17 right down to the chapter and verse.

>> No.49937448

>>49937228

You can learn a ton about taxes and accountancy that you can apply to private practice. My first full year as a lowly GS-5 taught me way more than I got in university. It's also easier to get contract positions, which are necessary for them to operate since federal payscales haven't kept up. The general schedule has failed to keep pace so badly that contract CPAs can earn more than the goddamn director of the CIA.

>> No.49937502

>>49937364
I've noticed government offices attract autists - their jobs and location rarely change, so they don't freak out, the work is very structured, and you can be a Milton with his red stapler and get promoted with no problem, over time. They'll grind their paperwork and data entry and watch the married squirrels for decades, and retire on a small but adequate pension.
Office Space could have very easily been set in a Federal office, spending more time on TPS cover sheets and HR meetings and replying to 6 bosses on every little damned thing, isntead of actual work.
I worked next to a Federal building once, where they were processing Social Security, among other things. it was revealing seeing what shambled and waddled out every day.

>> No.49937536

>>49930825
Kek

>> No.49937676

>>49937502

Depends on how much veteran presence there is, otherwise that's pretty spot on. Easily the blandest workforce I've ever been a part of. Maybe that's why it appealed to me.

The pension isn't really a thing anymore. It's the thrift savings plan, which is just a shittier 401k.

>> No.49937728

>>49930123
>They still think fiat holds any value and the governments won't just keep printing until the whole system implodes.
Cute. But obviously being parasitic is the way to go in end game capitalism. Anyone working hard and trying hard is a fucking moron in 2022 as your effort doesn't matter and won't change your circumstances (for the most part). Your job will be outsourced or replaced by robots/AI, there is very little vertical progression, money is being debased at a rate not seen for over a 100 years (in the west) and even then your wages won't keep up with the rate of inflation. Debt max, bleed the system until it implodes. The fall of the monetary system is closer than most people think. Also people maxing out credit-cards to buy BTC right now will be tomorrow's monarchy.

>> No.49937752

>>49937053
>The numbers in the OP are made up and fictional, but you wrote a lame /pol screed about it anyway.
Everything I wrote is true and you are a blind fool to chastise me for it. That or Satanic/Jewish.

>> No.49937797

>>49930123
>why our country is 20 trillion in debt
Yeah because you fund israel for 1 of those trillions. The rest goes to whichever corpo scum is pulling the governmental strings. Insurance probably steals 10 trillion worth of debt desu.

>> No.49937962

>>49937728
>look at altcoin projects around payment rails using blockchain
>they make fraudulent payments a big talking point
>bitcoin is a public ledger

Almost makes you think some in the know people are aware of the system is too corrupted and want a public ledger system to replace it.

>> No.49938152

>>49937448
I have a bookkeeping cert but accounting degree, would I still qualify?

Yes I'm a boring autist and yes doing the same thing all day sounds like heaven.

>> No.49938250

>>49934171
Ok Karen, whatever you say

>> No.49938291

>>49937728
Not BTC but gold yes.
Blockhain is tomorrows dollar, but BTC is competition so it'll be shorter to nothing within 10yrs.
It's still long ways away but never treat crypto as anything more then a quick cash grab or you'll end up like Jake Paul

>> No.49938345

>>49938152

Worth the application. I don't regret the experience at all. Even if I hated it at least I would have known. You can get in with an associates.

If it doesn't work out you can volunteer for VITA. Do that for a season then you're practically guaranteed to get a position next hiring wave.

>> No.49938386

>>49933684
All administered by the state you fucking retard.

>> No.49938407

>>49933949
Of course the moron that thinks welfare is a game also thinks every non-profit is a scam

>> No.49938433

>>49938386

With federal standards, dumbass. It's not up to state level decision makers. You hit the numbers or you don't. There's not some sort of vague or arbitrary state level approval or denial process.

>> No.49938457

>>49930123
What a retarded way to live

>> No.49938461

>>49934314
>No other profession has cancelled more meetings/shown up late than social workers
Because their case loads are obscene. I've worked with social workers in well funded areas with low caseloads and they're completely fine.

>> No.49938495

>>49938407

Anything over a million in annual revenue is. You shouldn't need fucking staff for a non-profit.

>> No.49938540

>>49938461

Bull fuckin' horse shit. If they're booked they need to mark it as such. They always fail to estimate travel time, and always lose track of time at each appointment. They are soft hearted and don't have the balls to leave when they have to. It's robbing Peter to pay Paul, personified, only with a holier than thou smugness that permeates everything they do.

>> No.49938597

>>49938345
Any tips to get hired?
I have no accounting co only the course.
I feel like a total loser trapped in that cycle;
>no xp no job

>> No.49938628

>>49938345
Only the cert, no degree

>> No.49938695

>>49938597

VITA is basically a lock, but it does mean a tax season of doing it for free. On paper experience matters more than anything else, especially if it happens to be non-profit or government tied.

If you are call center (probably good start) they will have mock calls. One of the calls will be from a power of attorney. Verbally state "One moment while I verify that we have your power of attorney on file". They're looking for strict adherence to policy and that you know what power of attorney is.

Apply sooner rather than later. They need people right now.

>> No.49938815

>>49930123
if you can do all this you can get more money in other less scumish ways

>> No.49938923

>>49938695

Oh, I guess I didn't explain what VITA is. It's an IRS volunteer program where you help people with very basic returns for free. Train at your own pace online and receive a certification. VITA certification comes from the IRS itself, and therefore the most relevant and valued certification you can have short of a full blown CPA.

>> No.49938958

>>49935219
ffs

>> No.49939475

>>49938923
>you help people with very basic returns for free
and if I do this I can get a WFH government job with just my dumb associates degree?

>> No.49940411

>>49939475

I can't make any guarantees about remote work. Nobody can. The Fed gov is a big employer though, and federal experience across GS level is highly transferrable.

>> No.49940531

>>49930372
>lot of work
Do you know how many brain dead niggers are pulling this off right now?
It’s the only think keeping minorities from going feral>>49930372

>> No.49940696

>>49930372
> first post
> sweating_jew.png

>> No.49940700

>>49930825
I swear, these minorities have social workers that reach out to them and help them pull this off. Otherwise, there's no way so many people would figure it out on their own.

>> No.49940879

>>49940411
I don't want the damn clot shot though

>> No.49941443

>>49940700
>I swear, these minorities have social workers that reach out to them and help them pull this off.
or maybe they socialize with people doing the same shit?

>> No.49941462

>>49933152
This.
Most people I know who do this buy their house in their parents name. This acts as a double safety. What you wrote being one and second if your Gf fucks you over and sleeps around (which you know she will) all your assets are in your parents name so she gets jackshit.

>> No.49941601

>>49940700
probably the same kind of "activist" organizations that coach them on how to answer questions at the border so they are let in

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>>49930123
If you are a single guy that does not work then you do not get shit, all the welfare is wasted on single moms raising future simps and career criminals. Disability is difficult to get on, but the rest you get just by being low income if you have children. The problem is that the woman has all of the authority since they are her children because even in divorce court, they have to pretend the husband has some rights. So all of this is moot if you make decent money, otherwise the main way that single mothers are leeching the system is for health insurance and food stamps for them and their kids.

As a single NEET with no kids you can get a low income apartment in a rural area where you pay 30% of your income even if it is 0.

LIEAP program for utilities

food stamps for now, but that will change.

$10 per month internet from AT and T special program.


There is nothing stopping a based couple from producing a lot of white children for the future ethnostate except that roasties hate hte idea of living on welfare until they are forced to work or cant even get a beta to commit to them.

>> No.49942067

>>49942047
>As a single NEET with no kids you can get a low income apartment in a rural area where you pay 30% of your income even if it is 0.
how?

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>>49942067
https://rdmfhrentals.sc.egov.usda.gov/RDMFHRentals/select_state.jsp

If you are a single NEET you are last on priority list so you will have to live somewhere rural, which is what I prefer.

>> No.49942492

>>49941601
Its called the goverment

>> No.49943020

>>49930123
>the new american way of life
literally go bald and sing america fuck yeah 10 times a day while grabbing an eagle and calling it a qom to give you a house.

>> No.49943253

>>49934070
>>49934171
Does your state force priests to register the marriage? Here in Goymoney they do but we have tax benefits for married so it's not so bad. Only if you are over 70y/o your marriage can be church. I saw a widower marry a widow and not registering it to remain getting good pensions. But if you can marry as a young adult without the state knowing in the US I'm all for it

>> No.49943656

>>49940700
They literally have social workers in Mexico teach them how to get the most benefits for when they illegally cross the border into America

>> No.49943669

>>49930123
American really is

>> No.49943675

>>49931599
How is it fraud? The girl is in dire financial need and is a single mother

>> No.49943709

>>49930372
Lol so many people in America make up fake disabilities to commit fraud. Making up a fake place you live at is not really that different. I don’t know anyone that has ever been convicted of welfare fraud in this country and I know a lot of people who have fake disabilities and shit

>> No.49943721

>>49943709
Just go to any trailer park or public housing project. Everyone there has “mental problems” or “a bad back” or “fibromyalgia”

If the federal government truly gave a shit about welfare fraud, this shit would have stopped a long time ago. Then you have all the fucking states like Massachusetts and California and Maryland and Illinois just straight up giving out EBT to illegal immigrants LOL

>> No.49943760

>>49940700
They do. I’ve seen job postings in my state looking for bilingual speakers to explain and guide people to getting public benefits. I’ve literally been inside the homes of Dominican kids I went to school with and their obese mothers who don’t speak enough to English to pass the citizenship test just sitting on their ass at noon on a Wednesday - somebody definitely had to help her into that situation

>> No.49943823

>>49930372
Its America so you are only taking it back from Jews that stole it in the first place.

And as Jews turn everything around it is probably perfectly moral to steal from a jew. They write that Jews can steal from Goys so the opposite must be true.