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49892301 No.49892301 [Reply] [Original]

Why do chuds always say the euro and the EU is on the brink of collapse, when it just gets stronger and stronger?

I would bet €100000 it will still be around in a century.

>> No.49892326

because the EU is super socialist and mutts hate it, especially the poltarded ones

>> No.49892356

EU is gay. France will leave. Italy will. Have fun living in the fourth reich

>> No.49892364

Brits are scared of it, because it reminds them of the collapse of their Empire.

And brits still influence the english-speaking internet.

>> No.49892369

>>49892301
When you need to turn on coal power plants to full power, you know you're in trouble. Try getting past winter first.

>> No.49892381

It's obvious it's going to collapse. No energy, no food, managed by out of touch retards full of hubris. Once the German economy collapses, down comes the EU

>> No.49892383

>>49892369
>what currency you use defines the geography of fossil fuels bro

>> No.49892388

Inflation is through the roof and they are keeping the interest rate at 0% because southern euro countries are drowning in debt and will default when the rate rises.

So either the stay the course and the Euro inflates into €100 being able to buy you a liter for milk, or they raise rates and southern countries like Greece, Italy, Spain collapses financially and northern european countries will have to bail them out with staggering amounts of money which will cause a lot of friction in the Union and most likely break it up

>> No.49892395

>>49892381
> food an energy situations depend on the currency chosen bro

>> No.49892422

>>49892383
>Why do chuds always say the euro and the EU is on the brink of collapse...
>and the EU
>the EU

>> No.49892425

>>49892388
Fuck off with that 2010 meme. Greece was never "bailed out". They were given an austerity "loan".

That meant they were forced to return a profit to the EU and forced to make reforms.

You brainlets don't get it; EU is not socialist at all; it's a brutal money maker.

>> No.49892435

>>49892301
>EU
>stronger and stronger
Fucking kek, europe will never be relevant again. Sorry wh*toids, that's what you get for shitting up the world for so long. Rest in piss

>> No.49892436

>>49892364
Lol what is this cope I am polish and hate this gay union. Hope we are next to leave. Brits are always ten years ahead of us with shit like this

>> No.49892442

>>49892436
You are literally a cuck then, because the main source of Brits' racism, was their hate against polacks.

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>>49892301

>> No.49892457
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>>49892301
Because their le epic based tranny loving influencers are telling them so.

>> No.49892485

>>49892301
I would bet you the same amount Italy is out of the union by the next year.

>> No.49892503

>>49892356
>>49892485
2 more weeks bro, trust me
you fucks have been saying this shit for 20 years now, get new material
>>49892369
see above

>> No.49892553

>>49892503
You do remember the EU lost a member state, yes? Oh, you may adopt new burdens in the form of Ukraine and Moldova. Congrats.

>> No.49892558

>>49892553
you mean brexit? the living example of why leaving the EU is a bad idea?

>> No.49892567

>>49892558
Actually delusional.

>> No.49892570

>>49892442
Lol they don't hate poles you fucking chud

>> No.49892571

>>49892326
EU has the most brutal capitalism in the world. If a US state is bailed out by the Fed: it's a literal bail out and the citizens of that state don't feel much pain.

If EU "bails out" a member: it comes with brutal reforms; and they return the loan at a profit for the EU.

You assholes have no idea what the EU is; it's not a party; it's a brutal money making machine.

>> No.49892572

the euro literally dumped 10%+ this year
AGAINST THE DOLLAR
when you compute against real inflation, that means the euro dumped 20%+
even msm is picking up on it. frogland media points out prospective home owners lost a full room of buying power (keep in mind most homes in france are 2-3 bedrooms apartments, not mcmansions)

>> No.49892592

>>49892558
>He believes EU propaganda on brsxit
Lol ngmi

>> No.49892603

>>49892572
> -0.50% (that's a minus) interest rates have nothing to do with it bro

>> No.49892638

>>49892571
>EU has the most brutal capitalism in the world
LMAO
Holy fuck KYS you have no idea what the hell you are talking about, try starting a business in Belgium I fucking dare you, one of THE most business countries in the fucking world, earn 3k a month and only keep 300 after all the taxes, don't even start me on all the fucking needless bureaucracy. I think the soviet union would be more efficient.

>> No.49892673

>>49892567
>>49892592
propaganda by your own institutes reporting how bad shit is?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_effects_of_Brexit

>> No.49892700

>>49892570
They do.

>> No.49892728

>>49892301
Because the EU makes burgers and bongs seethe by existing. They also massively underestimate the support in Europe for the project. The EU is seen as very very important for most members, and if there's a crisis most will be willing to do whatever it takes to save it. Collapse has been predicted to be 5 years from now since the 1970s. In reality it only gets stronger.

>> No.49892756

>>49892301
Yeah because if you lose the bet you'd only have to pay in worthless euros

>> No.49892793

>>49892570
Everyone in Western EU hates poles retard.

>> No.49892808

>>49892301
>Why do chuds always say the euro and the EU is on the brink of collapse, when it just gets stronger and stronger?
>I would bet €100000 it will still be around in a century.
EU will keep evolving into a world government eventually. It's the most solid democratic entity on the planet. That's why China with the pandemic and Russia with the war are trying to keep Europe from it's inevitable unification, but they can't beat democracy, fucking chinks and tundra goat fuckers can fuck themselves.

>> No.49892830

>>49892638
You are a brainlet. If Americans get a scratch: they die on a ditch after crippling debt.

Never count cost of living without taking into account the US is fully privatized.

>> No.49892846

>>49892808
This. Mind you the EU isn't perfect in it's current form. But the more Russia, China and burgers try to throw their weight at Europe, the more countries see the need to be united under the EU.

>> No.49892861

>>49892603
who said that? you're literally making up a strawman to avoid the actual topic

>> No.49892863

>>49892326
Faggot. I’m of pure Venetian stock. Still, fuck EU!

>> No.49892892

>>49892673
EU will be a walfare state, looking after shit skins and the third world Moldova and Ukraine. Have fun having your wages lowerd again due to the influx of immagrants from these countries.

>> No.49892924
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>>49892301
You ever heard of the 95% treshold? the theory goes like this, the bigger a percentage is, the larger it grows close to 100%, the more the illusion is that, whatever it is that you're measuring, it will always be inclined towards the bigger number, closer to 100%. The thing is that, despite what you would think, 75% is not even remotely close to 100%, and is still closer to a 50/50 than you would think. That's why people are tricked when they have to chose the percentage of losses for investments, they wil always "clearly" go for the bigger % of stability and potential win, not for anything in particular, but because a bigger number is closer to 100%, it "has to be better". Well, statistics don't work like that, and that's how people end up losing millions in investments they would've sworn couldn't fail. Now, what if i told you the same is happening to several things right now? That's it, what do you think that keeps memecoins like doge and vinu, and what do you think that keeps the EU out of the brink of collapse when people swear it should break?
It's amazing really

>> No.49892928

>>49892830
The US isn't quite that bad, our government just sucks at everything. New roads? One hundred trillion dollars. Army? One hundred quadrillion dollars.

>> No.49892942

>>49892892
Bongs have this weird delusion of being better than the EU in this regard. Bongs would be better off looking at how to improve their own country instead of insisting it was superior for some reason.

>> No.49892953

>>49892892
so no argument? alright

>> No.49892962

>>49892942
Because the EU courts over rule UK courts to save them getting sent to Rwanda

>> No.49892996

>>49892962
No they don't. ECHR isn't related to the EU and predates it. It was partly set up by Churchill. Bongs are the most ignorant country in Europe I swear.

>> No.49893014

should i dump my USD for EUR i dont think i ever seen it this low

>> No.49893019

>>49892301
>will still be around in a century.
Put up a realistic timeframe and I'll take you up on that bet.
Pick your choice of prediction market

>> No.49893055

>>49892638
Belgium has an extremely mild climate for SME's. In 2020, there were over 1 million self-employed persons registered, on a population of over 11 million. Please tell me more about how it's so difficult to start a business here.

>> No.49893080

>>49893019
In what scenario would it cease existing? I don't understand the autism that grips so many about the EU. Europe basically can't survive at all without the EU, and the mainland countries know this. The bigger the existential crisis is for the EU at any given time, the more countries will give up to save it. It's that simple.

>> No.49893097

>>49892808
lmao, the Eu is undemocratic as fuck, it's inching closer to becoming Sovietunion 2.0 every day

>> No.49893116

>>49893097
>w.. why? Well it just is! I read so on reddit(tm)!!

>> No.49893142

remember, when whites go they take the rest with them. don't make white people mad, that's how you get war!

>> No.49893168

>>49893080
>no more cheap Russian energy
>default of PIGS countries
>collapse of the Euro due to hyperinflation
>mother of all refugee crisis in the Middle East due to food shortage
just pick anyone of these really

>> No.49893195

>>49893168
I'm am stupefied by this post. How in the fuck would any of these lead to the collapse of the EU? Leaving the EU, or allowing it to collapse would make every one of these worse.

Might as well say the next big US immigration/financial crisis will surely lead to the US collapsing.

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>>49892301
Betting on currencies sticking around hasn't been a good idea anon..

>> No.49893208

>>49893201
None of the currencies in that chart ever collapsed.

>> No.49893215

>>49893116
Rent free. In reality Reddit is pro-eu

>> No.49893236
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>the 'EU'

>> No.49893245

>>49893116
>most policies can be initiated by the unelected institution, the European Comitee
>creeping legislative interpretation by the European Comitee assisted by the European Court to take away more and more sovereign rights from member states
>attempts to end veto power of smaller member states and to enforce globohomo tyranny in every matter from alphabet soup faggot agenda to destroying their own economy with sanction against Russia to appease globohomo masters
I could go on

>> No.49893261

>>49893245
>the European Comitee
No such thing. Typical anti-eu retard tried to regurgitate a bunch of anti-white gibberish he fell for.

>> No.49893290

The more seething retards, the better the EU is doing, so looking at this thread we're doing pretty good.

>> No.49893303

>>49893208
lolwut, many of those have collapsed multiple times, retard
>what is Dutch Republic after 4th Anglo-Dutch War
>what is Britain after WW2
You should have heard about Weimar Germany at least, but maybe I overestimate your ignorance, are you a mutt by any chance?

>> No.49893304

>>49892301
>when it just gets stronger and stronger?
When was that?

>> No.49893312

>>49893303
I think you'll find GBP is still around in fact.

>> No.49893321

>>49893261
uwotm8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commission

>> No.49893354

>>49893321
Where does it say "European Comitee" here?

>> No.49893357

>>49892301
I imagine because the EU isn’t beneficial for a lot of people involved and there is serious pushback across Europe to it.
However, if you read the Populist Delusion (buy it now at Imperium Press or Amazon) you can clearly see that popular movements are meaningless.

>> No.49893372

>>49892435
This lmao, EU niggers are going back to stone age as their Israeli overlords already said, they are already back to burning coal after decades worth of fag performance.

Germany is the most humiliated whore of US.

>> No.49893379

>>49893245
ah you're schizophrenic, I see your problem there

>> No.49893389

>>49893321
appointed by the european council and parlimant, both are democratically elected
fucking retard

>> No.49893390

>>49892570
Poles are mexicans of Europe lmao, they clean toilets in Germany.

>> No.49893391

>>49892301
>I would bet €100000 it will still be around in a century.
at which point your 100k euro would be worth about 10 bucks in todays money

>> No.49893404

>>49893201
Jews did this

>> No.49893405

>>49892571
Haha. QE infinity and the NGEU proof you wrong. Italy hasn't done fuckal to modernize and is getting a tailored highly illegal spread control mechanism now.

>> No.49893413

>>49893312
>The United Kingdom suspended the gold standard in 1914 so it could support its war efforts.
>GBP is still around even though it's lost 99% of its purchasing power
>that doesn't mean it collapsed
this is gonna be the third time actually

https://www.in2013dollars.com/uk/inflation/1945

>> No.49893424

>>49893208
Spain, The Netherlands and France have all stopped supporting those currencies.. They made everyone use the Euro and the other currencies are no longer valid. Most carry no numismatic or material value but there are some rare pieces and pieces made of gold and silver but they themselves as currencies no longer exist..

>> No.49893439

>>49893424
Yeah I know. But they didn't collapse, they just converted the euros. Typically you can still exchange old pre-euro currencies to euros. Which was common for the 5 years or so after the euro currency was brought in.

>> No.49893441

>>49892301
>>49892728
EU is going to become an impoverished turdworld shithole, Big daddy soros already declared this, you can read on his own website.

One thing :- Nobody, absolutely nobody in Europe likes EU or Europeans.

>> No.49893448

>>49893354
stop nitpicking you fucking kike, Comission, Comitee, whatever
>>49893389
I didn't vote for them, in fact I cannot vote for the any of the members of the Comission, the most important governing entity of the EU, wow much democracy indeed

>> No.49893468

>>49893448
you can vote for the bodies that choose them, are you this retarded?

>> No.49893471

>>49893439
Force liq-ed into another currency which is now not only depending on the performance of YOUR nation but also a shitload of crappy ones as well. In the end it sorta? worked out? but I'm pretty convinced the Dutch would've been better off with their own currency.

>> No.49893488

>>49892728
dear EU citizen, stop taking hot shovers and freeze to death in the winter, the EU demands it because you need to stick it to Putin

>> No.49893492

>>49893441
>Nobody, absolutely nobody in Europe likes EU or Europeans.
Deluded. Ukraine basically banging on the gates to be allowed in. EU membership generally positive among all current members. Even the UK was a happy member until a few years before the referendum.

>> No.49893514

>>49893116
redit is extremely pro-EU, what the fuck are you on about?

>> No.49893518

>>49892301
Because every major US/UK IB and hedge fund are shorting the fuck out of the EU.

>> No.49893521

>>49893448
>stop nitpicking you fucking kike, Comission, Comitee, whatever
lmao

>I didn't vote for them, in fact I cannot vote for the any of the members of the Comission,
The commission is just the civil service of the EU. What member of your own countries civil service have you voted for lately?

>> No.49893523

>>49892301
How do I lock you in for that bet?

>> No.49893543

>>49893488
>No need to stand up to Putin, just let him invade eastern europe goy. No need to protect yourself from friendly mr putin.

Let me guess. A mutt.

>> No.49893550

>>49893468
stop acting like it's the same thing and even that isn't true, the European Council decides whom is the EU Comission is made of, by whatever shady backroom deals the public knows nothing about, for the most part Germoney and France gets to choose, noone else really gets a say

>> No.49893568

>>49892388
raising interest rates honestly doesnt do shit in this circumstance and the FED is retarded for doing it, because the problem isnt demand, its supply, supply wont be fixed by monetary tightening, you can choke the consumer but they will still need energy and food and that is where the price increases come from - from supply. If you dont kill people you wont fix anything, and they obviously arent going to do that, at least not willingly.

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>>49893514
He got his inspiration from this book

>> No.49893575

>>49893550
>Elected representatives choosing who leads the civil service!? Holy shit! We can't have this now can we??
Imagine how much energy it takes to maintain this amount of cognitive dissonance. The fact the EU makes people seethe and cope this much is why you know it's a good thing.

>> No.49893587

>>49893492
> A literal war torn post soviet shithole with corrupt americunt backed Jewish leadership is banging on the door for gibs as Europe goes bankrupt means muh EU stronk!!

A gorillion niggers and sandniggers are waiting to flood EU and enjoy free gibs while raping your women, let them enter to show the world how great muh EU is lmao. Most EU members are literal irrelevant meme countries size of a fucking city and a median age of 45, kek

>> No.49893602

>>49893521
>The commission is just the civil service of the EU.
The EU commission is what wields the executive power within the EU. It is the most powerful branch, by far. Usually the equivalent to the commission is the president of the republic, which is a elected position.

>> No.49893605

>>49893550
lmao

>> No.49893618

>>49893587
>No one likes the EU
>I... I meant EU not stronk!!!
>free gibs, rape, muh EU, lmao, meme countries!!!
holy shit kek.

>> No.49893628

>>49893543
>omg, america is so bad acting like the world police, like omg america is bombing countries for oil, like omg america bad
>omg EU needs to act like the world police, like omg why isn't America acting like the world police, like omg america bad
America is indeed bad, but god i fucking hate European white liberals. And yes, i'm European.

>> No.49893632

>>49893602
>The EU commission is what wields the executive power within the EU.
The commission literally can't do anything without the approval of parliament and the council.

>Usually the equivalent to the commission is the president of the republic
What president carries out the entire duties of the civil service? Did you just read this someplace and believe it without even thinking about it?

>> No.49893652

>>49893543
EU is currently in a COPE mode after Russia turned off it's Energy supply, everything is expensive, people are projected to starve and freeze in coming winter, what a way to stand up to putin lmao. I bet Putin is afraid of your faggot ass twink militaries lmao

>> No.49893664

>>49893521
>The commission is just the civil service of the EU. What member of your own countries civil service have you voted for lately?
blatantly wrong
depending on the country, you either vote for the legislative branch in an election that indirectly decides who will have control over the executive branch as well like Germany or you can vote directly for the executive branch like you vote directly for the president in France
by the way the European Comission has way more power than a single executive branch of a country, a vast majority of legislation is drafted, initiated and accepted by the European Comission, matters of importance that would be otherwise on the level of legislation by national parlaments, the European Parlament however doesn't even have the right to initiate legislation depending on the topic, it can only vote on whatever the Comission sends to them

>> No.49893670

>>49893632
>The commission literally can't do anything without the approval of parliament and the council.
Same as most presidents in Europe. Doesn't make it what i said any less true. And you are still wrong, EU commission still wields alot of power.

>> No.49893689

>>49893543
yes, fuck Ukraine, nobody gives a fuck about hohols, Ukraine is not and will never be an Eu member state so I don't give a flying fuck if Russia rapes them because they are retarded

>> No.49893697

>>49893618
> people think it's easy to pillage us
> this means we stronk !
COPE, it's matter of decades and majority of muh EU populace won't even remember something like EU existed.

>> No.49893702

>>49893543
>>49893689
also
>yes, Europe, commit collective economic suicide because.... MUH FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY IN THIS 3RD WORLD SHITHOLE

>> No.49893709

>>49892301
>euro getting stronger
Euro is in its lowest levels ever
>eu stronger
Inflation skyrocketing, key countries governments stealing elections in order to stay in power, even the normies are starting to have enough
>chud
Didn’t you get the memo that chud is outdated here now, huh trannie ?

>> No.49893712

>>49893689
They should have just accepted the Minsk Agreements. But they choose to trust anglos/kikes (same thing) and now they are getting fucked.

>> No.49893718

>>49893664
>the European Parlament however doesn't even have the right to initiate legislation depending on the topic
Which is to say is does have the right on some topics. Which is to say both the commission and parliament can initiate legislation. Except nothing can pass without Parliamentary approval. Aldo the commission can't even form without parliamentary approval, and can be and has been disolved at any time is parliament doesn't like it.

The amount of seething over how the commision works is unreal. I agree it could be better, but given basically nothing can happen without the full support of parliament and the council, there's no actual serious issues.

>> No.49893747

>>49892301
eu lad here, I'll leave once I hit 7 figs which will prolly happen in 2025 if I'm lucky.
It was a good concept with many benefits but everything turned to shit after the bailouts in the late 2000s

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>> No.49893772

>>49892301
Why do chuds always say the yen and Japan is on the brink of collapse, when it just gets stronger and stronger?

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>>49892301

>> No.49893790

Just for the uninformed brainlets ITT:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commission#Powers_and_functions
>Before the Treaty of Lisbon came into force, the executive power of the EU was held by the council: it conferred on the Commission such powers for it to exercise. However, the council was allowed to withdraw these powers, exercise them directly, or impose conditions on their use.[45][46] This aspect has been changed by the Treaty of Lisbon, after which the Commission exercises its powers just by virtue of the treaties.
>The Commission differs from the other institutions in that it alone has legislative initiative in the EU. Only the commission can make formal proposals for legislation: they cannot originate in the legislative branches. Under the Treaty of Lisbon, no legislative act is allowed in the field of the Common Foreign and Security Policy. In the other fields, the Council and Parliament are able to request legislation; in most cases the Commission initiates on the basis of these proposals. This monopoly is designed to ensure coordinated and coherent drafting of EU law.
>Once legislation is passed by the Council and Parliament, it is the Commission's responsibility to ensure it is implemented. In particular the Commission has a duty to ensure the treaties and law are upheld, potentially by taking member states or other institutions to the Court of Justice in a dispute. In this role it is known informally as the "Guardian of the Treaties".[62] Finally, the Commission provides some external representation for the Union, alongside the member states and the Common Foreign and Security Policy, representing the Union in bodies such as the World Trade Organization. It is also usual for the President to attend meetings of the G8.
Basically, it's a big fucking power grab with monopolic rights and centralization. Democratic my ass.

>> No.49893792

>>49893747
lol no, EU turned to shit once it became the most powerful arm spreading globohomo in Europe. All faggotry, non white worshipping, tranny shit, feminism... as its roots in the EU. Except in places like Britain and France, where this shit began even earlier than EU.

>> No.49893845

>>49893718
I looked it up for you, here>>49893790
so, the parlament doesn't have the right, but they can ASK the Comission, pleasy-please make some legislation, they have no say in what to implement though, their rights go as far as saying yes or no to what the Comission cokked up (so assume maximal globohomo faggotry as a rule of thumb)

>> No.49893875

>>49893772
Have you looked at the DXY lately?

>> No.49893879

>>49893783
Came here to post this.

>> No.49893891

>>49893702
Europe is already on a track of collective (social and economic) suicide, has been for a long time, the ukraine shit is literal piss in thr ocean if you look at the larger picture.

The war in Ukraine was started by soros to kill Nordstream 2 and end German dependency on Russian Energy, He hated how under Merkel, German economy boomed, by making China its largest market for selling automobiles, he has literally written about this clearly on his website, anyone can check.

>> No.49893916

>>49892395
Basket of currencies.

Germany goes down first, then France, then the EU entirely. EU is complete and utter fucking joke, just listen to Ursala speak.

>> No.49893925

>>49893845
Sure. But Parliament also has the ability to dissolve the commission at any time, and its consent is required to pass anything.

>B.. but it's not the same as MY country!!!
Instead of bitching about how the EU is not a full fledged country, maybe point out what the actual problem with this is.

The commission is in effect completely beholden to parliament and the council.

>> No.49893967

>>49893925
this reditor is seething hard

>> No.49894030

>>49892425
brainlet take
the german banks and german oilgarchs were bailed out with loans paid for by the german peasants to make good on their bad bets on greece abilities to repay their loans ever
its a subtle but important difference

either way the eu is fucked, its either hyperinflation or kicking half the countries out of the euro
jsut remember they already admitted to having emergency plans ready during the euro crisis in 2011-12 to bring back the mark and gulden
lets see how the eu survives a winter without heating, without food, without carfuel and with a collapsing economy
if there ever is going to be a moment to log in to a minecraft server it is coming soon

>> No.49894039

>>49893014
No. See dollar milkshake theory, that's what's happening.

>> No.49894051

>>49892301
The EU gets stronger every single crisis it goes through so far, Greece, migrant crisis, Brexit, covid and Ukraine have basically shown it.
Only amerimutts really say it will collapse which is ironic because the US is by far the most polarized and racially segregated western country in the world and only held together by prosperity.

>> No.49894103

>>49894051
The EU bureaucracy gets stronger, but the systems those bureaucracies rest of (EU member states) are only getting weaker. This is what people talk about when they say EU is going to collapse, that the member states will get so weak and useless that they will no longer be able to maintain the bureaucracy.

>> No.49894117

>>49894030
>lets see how the eu survives a winter without heating, without food, without carfuel and with a collapsing economy
This will unioronically strengthen the EU. Just like every crisis does. Maybe a retarded outsider sees the EU "causing" fuel shortages. But to most people the EU is standing up to Russia, and a common energy market and the ability to negotiate globally for energy imports is more important to everyone than ever. No one wants to leave to the EU to beg Putin to export oil and gas to them.

Hell even if you hate the EU, it's clear there's no real alternative. UK left and immediately had their economy capsize and get shat on geopolitically at every opportunity. The world has gotten too small for the european states of old.

>> No.49894123

>>49892388
Euro inflation is unironically good for countries like Italy or Germany because they're export centered economies.
Only real importer are the french but they're too ideologically indoctrinated to ever leave.

>> No.49894125

>>49892436
lmao backwards polacks of all people complaining about the EU

>> No.49894184

I'm waiting for the Europeans to do something absolutely stupid so Putin cuts off energy entirely. Enjoy welcoming the new flood of middle eastern refugees coming, looking for food, chuds. Lol

>> No.49894274

>>49894117
i never said there is an alternative, especially an alternative someone would choice for
what i am saying is cascading collapse is what is happening
at this point its a toss up between french revolution 2.0 or a new bronze age collapse
as other anons have mentioned its hard to imagine a central authority to survive, food fuel and economic crisis when about a 100 million middle easterners are about to immigrate
the eu is going to struggle to provide basic survival conditions to people this winter, you will hear reports in the newspapers before they go down about another 100 people having been found frozen to death this winter, it will start with those living in the margins of society: old people with no family, the decrepit poor and addicts
but go ahead keep drinking the cool aid that your glorious leaders are there to save you, that somehow they can print fuel and food

>> No.49894380

>>49894274
Like I said. All this will only strengthen the EU. I am at a loss to understand why the EU would suddenly collapse due to any of the mentioned crises.

I can only assume retardation at this case. The logic seems to be
>situation changes = all society collapses
If there's something else here I don't get it.

>> No.49894436

>>49892728
Bro I am Dutch, and we voted AGAINST joining by a large margin, but our vote was ignored at the time. Now we have to deal with a bunch of corrupt southern countries who are sucking the other nations dry. Especially Italy is terrible. Before COVID they asked for a loan from the EU, and were told to make some policy changes in order to pay back the loan, which was met with a lot of backlash from the common folks, causing them to not get the loan because they were unwilling to make changes on their shit financial policies.

Fast forward to two years later. No financial reform was made, and they end up begging for a loan from the NGEU to help with what they called “pandemic related bills”. Had they made any reform, they wouldn’t have gotten as much backlash from the rest of the EU. They even went as far as calling the Dutch prime minister a heartless monster for demanding conditions on the 25 billion loan that the Netherlands is now also partly responsible for.

I fucking hate the Italians so much Anon, it’s unreal. They are whiny pieces of shit crying fake tears if it means they don’t have to get off their lazy corrupt asses.

>> No.49894501

>>49894436
Two year ago, not two years later*

>> No.49894561

>>49894380
Are you stupid? It's the EU's policies that are creating the crisis.
>Hurr durr, if I cut off my leg, it will only strengthen me

>> No.49894572

>>49893925
>implying the Parlament is anything, but a clusterfuck of NPCs and globohomo soros agents
remind me, when did the European Parlament do anything significant ever?

>> No.49894600

>>49894436
>Bro I am Dutch, and we voted AGAINST joining by a large margin, but our vote was ignored at the time.
Didn't ask about your shitty government.

>Crying about paying money to southern countries
yeah it's shit. But you know what would be most expensive? Being out of the EU.

Just look at the UK, think they are better off financially because they don't have the for other countries now? It's temping to think leaving the EU just means you can "keep" the money, but it's not how reality works.

As such I'm not sure what you're bitching over unless there's some serious alternative you'd prefer.

>> No.49894607

>>49894380
dude, no fuel everything is fucked
you want a live example look to sri lanka
they at least have the advantage that their country is liveable year round, half of europe is deadly in winter without tech and preparation

>> No.49894621

>>49894561
Because Euro countries wouldn't be sanctioning Russia if not for the EU? Delusion.

>> No.49894641

>>49892301
>when it just gets stronger and stronger
>Just two years ago one of its wealthiest member (UK) decided to quit the union
yuropoor cope

>> No.49894689

>>49894117
>But to most people the EU is standing up to Russia
lmao we'll see what happens to their enthusiasm when they can no longer afford food and can't pay their bills

>> No.49894715

>>49894641
Instantly followed by the UK economy tanking, while still having to follow basically all EU laws. They don't even check imports from the EU into the UK despite full import checks applying from UK-EU, demonstrating the power the EU has in the relationship.

The UK leaving instantly killed most anti-EU movements in the EU. All regions of the UK now poll as believing it was a mistake to leave too.

>> No.49894765

>>49894621
Stupid confirmed

>> No.49894778

>>49894765
You realise every EU country had a Veto on the sanctions right? No one was forced into them.

>> No.49894783

>>49892830
>Americans get a scratch: they die on a ditch after crippling debt.
Imagine reading Reddit and thinking this is a widespread fact

>> No.49894813

>>49894030
Just for clarification: The EU and the Euro are not the same thing. You could argue the Euro will fail and it will have an impact on the EU.

>> No.49894818

>>49894436
to be fair to Italy though, the EU was never an optimal monetary zone, southern states with weaker aconomies should have never been forced to join a monetary union where monetary policies are dictated by the interests of the richer, more developed countries
of course they fell into a bubble with the ultra-low interests and debts crisis afterwards

>> No.49894849

>>49892301
Based retard. Eurocrats are sucking everything dry. This level of corruption and profiteering cannot endure a century.

>> No.49894859

>>49894778
>No one was forced into them.
Where did i have any choice into it?

>> No.49894892

>>49894859
When you voted for your current national government.

>> No.49894922

>>49894892
Are you on the EU payrol posting this much

>> No.49894942

>>49894922
>Someone posting bad-think? Can't have that now.. the handbook says "accuse him of being a shill". Righty then...

>> No.49894954

>>49894892
But i didn't vote for them. And even if i did sanctions on Russia wasn't part of the electoral program, and most elected governments just renege on their promises

>> No.49894975

>>49894030
>to make good on their bad bets on greece abilities to repay their loans ever
french banks were much more exposed to PIIGS than german banks

>> No.49895001

>>49894954
>But i didn't vote for them.
You had the option to be part of the vote that elected them. You favorite party isn't always the one that gets elected chud. That's democracy.

>And even if i did sanctions on Russia wasn't part of the electoral program,
Amazingly governments are not elected to only perform what they say in their electoral program. You elect them to use their judgement to run the country.

>most elected governments just renege on their promises
Sure.

>> No.49895062

>>49895001
>You had the option to be part of the vote that elected them. You favorite party isn't always the one that gets elected chud. That's democracy.
So i had no choice in it?
>Amazingly governments are not elected to only perform what they say in their electoral program. You elect them to use their judgement to run the country
So i had no choice in it?

>> No.49895089

>>49895062
>So i had no choice in it?
The exact opposite. You did have a choice. I don't know how to explain it any simpler than I have sadly.

>> No.49895119

Cause the EU represents the will to nothingness, no goals, no dreams, no future. A retirement home for Europe. Once French, Dutch, German, Catholic, Lutheran, Empire, Republic, you are all now just consumers. That’s what the E.U. is, an instrument for capitalizing on peoples, turning you into maximally liquid and fungible consumers with nothing to live for but to go to work and to eat.There is no going back. This is the future you chose. It’s the English Ideology writ large; and a hellish irony that England was the first to leave. Everything is irrational but the maintenance of markets and international trade. The yuropoor way.

>> No.49895146

>>49895089
>You did have a choice.
See>>49894954
How was it my choice if i didn't vote in the party and if the sanctions on Russia weren't part of the electoral program, and governments aren't legally bound to fulfill their campaign promises?

>> No.49895154

>>49895119
>no goals, no dreams, no future.
Quite the opposite. In what sense do other powers have goals but the EU doesn't?

>> No.49895188

>>49895146
because participating in an election all the choice you had.

Maybe you're sad you didn't get a veto and every single decision the government makes. But thems the breaks kid.

>> No.49895226

Because europe is to america what greece was to romans

>> No.49895259

>>49895188
So i was right that many people (probably the vast majority) were forced into the sanctions on Russia? Why did it took so many posts for you to finally admit it? You reditors really become unhinged when you travel here

>> No.49895305

>>49895259
If you didn't want sanctions, you shouldn't have elected a part that would support such things. Sorry kid. Maybe move someplace with more likeminded people.

>> No.49895363

>>49894184
As a european, just fucking cut it off already who gives a fuck the faster we get it done the better

>> No.49895482
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49895482

>>49892301
>Something lasting in Europe

>> No.49895705

>>49894818
> Have weaker monetary stance
> Get advice from countries with stronger monetary stance
> “Haha fuck you, chuds”
> Get fucked by global disaster
> “Please donate to this address or I’ll rope!”

How am I not supposed to hate them bro?

>> No.49895889

>>49892571
>t. lazy Greek

>> No.49895949

>>49894436
It's absurd listening to this shit from people coming from countries like the Netherlands that basically fiscal paradises for companies and completely fuck up the economy of other countries.

>> No.49895974

>>49895705
(((They))) forced euro on us, I was a kid when Italy adopted euro but I still remember all the "muh euro will make us rich", "we'll work one day less and earn for one day more each week" and all the other bullshit. We were lied to. Fuck euro and fuck Europe. We should've never changed our currency.

>> No.49896251

>>49895974
Literally nothing wrong with the euro.

>> No.49896275

>>49892301
The euro has been getting weaker for more than a year kek

>> No.49896302

>>49895949
> Why can’t you evade taxes illegally like the rest of us

Fuck off bro, seriously

>> No.49896399

>>49896302
>The dutchoid screams "tax evader" at you as he evades taxes
>- ancient EU expression
lmao https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Sandwich

>> No.49896501

>>49894030
>>49892425
These are the only good statement.
>German oligarchs invest in said country
>Investment fails
>European central banks prints fake money to repay the oligarchs money lost in gambling
>ECB asks the common folks of the said country to pay the debt
Ireland greece spain all are fucked by this simple jewish trick .

>> No.49896502

>>49896399
Must be hard living life unable to comprehend a single sentence. I acknowledged we evade taxes while stating you do as well, but illegally.

>> No.49896596

>>49894274
>old people with no family, the decrepit poor and addicts
actually good thing if these dregs freeze to death

>> No.49896682

>>49896502
Tax evasion is illegal by definition you retarded dutchman. Is this the power of dutch education?

Maybe your thinking of tax avoidance.

>> No.49896861

>>49895154
Tell me, what goal does the Eu have, apart from being the lapdog of the US forever?

>> No.49896881

>>49894436
This is the delusion of the commoners in the wealthier Countries of the EU. You don't comprehend just how much money the EU makes you and then get all angry when you have to provide financial incentive to the poorer countries you are profiting off.
The entire production of Western Europe got exported to eastern Europe where labor is much cheaper. But when Hans on Hartz 4 from east Germany sees that Europe is investing billions into the Polish Highway and infrastructure, he gets mad because he think this means less gibs for him, even though this infrastructure in the poorer European countries benefits the richer countries of the Europe a lot.
It's like the California retards looking at their state and say "Look! Our GDP per capita is 2x-3x of the rural states! We shouldn't have to constantly bail them out!" even though a big part why California's GDP per Capita is so high is thanks to the rural areas.
This is why Brexit was such an economic retarded move. Same thing applies to the Netherlands. You would be economically fucked without the EU.
This comes from someone that is quite skeptical of the EU himself.

>> No.49897009

>>49895705
it's not that simple, 2 can play this game, Germany can have trade surplus because the PIGS have trade deficit, if there are no irresponsible German and French banks that lend, there's no irresponsible PIGS debtors
https://youtu.be/W2mrpqHG4n8?t=1062

>> No.49897026

>>49896881
You forgot to add the millions of qualified high IQ immigrants those countries receive from the poorer parts of EU, and the new markets they have to export thanks to the de-industrialization that destroyed the poorer parts of EU

>> No.49897067

>>49896861
Building political and economic union among european states
Building a strong integrated europe wide economy, (the single market)
Having strong social rights and strong protection of them
Building a strong defence alliance amongst european allies to protect european interests


These are all fairly common things that anyone would want.

The EU in comparison to other regions probably focuses more of citizens rights, human rights and protection of said right. Pursues development of a socially responsible economic model that still fairly neoliberal. Not so much the communism/socialism fear that the US has.

What "goals" does the US have? Or anywhere else?

>> No.49897126

>>49897067
>to protect european interests
Since when is it a European interest to stop having cheap Russian energy?

>> No.49897137

>>49896881
This. Makes me sad how many people benefitting from the EU have no idea how much they are benefitting from it. At least UK demonstrated to everyone how quickly things go to shit if you leave.

I don't think the EU is that hard to understand even, so many are just fixated on national sovereignty or something that the refuse to assess political and economic realities.

>> No.49897184

>>49897126
Who said it was? It's in european interests to have eastern european countries within western european sphere of influence. Would be nice to have that without have to cut Russian fuel off, but such is life.

>> No.49897273

>>49892301
Do europeans realize americans spend nowhere near as much time thinking about them as they do thinking about americans? Nobody cares about Europe except le polfags you hate

>> No.49897302

>>49897273
Who mentioned americans?

>> No.49897337

>>49897184
Is it really part of European interests to break off with our main supplier of cheap energy in exchange of a poor shitty country like Ukraine? How so?
How is it part of European interests to have EU constantly expanding? Could you develop more on who you are thinking when you say "Europeans"? Average Europeans? European business owners? EU bureaucrats?

>> No.49897352

>>49897302
About a quarter of the thread

>> No.49897360

>>49897302
americans...

>> No.49897371

>>49897067
>Building political and economic union among european states
globohomo bullshit only Western finacial oligarchy cares about
>Building a strong integrated europe wide economy, (the single market)
globohomo bullshit only Western finacial oligarchy cares about
>Having strong social rights and strong protection of them
absolute fucking lie, the Middle class is being decimated right now and slowly since the 70s
>Building a strong defence alliance amongst european allies to protect european interests
globohomo bullshit to start the war drums to steal Russian resources
>focuses more of citizens rights, human rights
pushing LGBT-faggotry, anti-natalism and immigration agenda, also hating crypto and pushing CBDCs to take total control over your savings is the anthithesis of human rights

>> No.49897388

>>49896881
>>49897137
The UK still has the 5th largest economy in the world. Brexit is a literal nothingburger and has shown the polar opposite, the brits are completely fine since leaving

>> No.49897410

>>49892301
>€100000
>in a century
You'd bet a single slice of bread? What a strange bet

>> No.49897419

>>49897067
muh hooman rights
the rights thought of as inalienable, owned to every man as conceived by Locke, Hobbes, etc?
Or modern human rights, the rights to shit and cum where you please and have someone cut your cock off and tell you your rotten hole is actually a pussy

>> No.49897482

>>49892301
Americas bigger fear is a Eurasian super alliance, thats why they blocked the nordstream gas pipeline for example. Also daily reminder that all degeneracy in the world comes from the USA. Also EU GDP is almost as much as US gdp but with way less debt

>> No.49897492

>>49897337
>Is it really part of European interests to break off with our main supplier of cheap energy in exchange of a poor shitty country like Ukraine? How so?
Silly anon. You want Ukraine in control of Russia? How is that in european interests? And after Ukraine, what next? The rest of the post-soviet block countries that Putin already showed interest in? No, these are property of the EU. It's where we'll put all our dirty industries. No point in giving them to some retard like Putin who'll just end up putting nuke launch stations in them.

>How is it part of European interests to have EU constantly expanding?
Yeah, why have a european empire where we have enough resources and influence to look after out own interests?

>Could you develop more on who you are thinking when you say "Europeans"? Average Europeans? European business owners? EU bureaucrats?
All europeans.

>> No.49897493

>>49896682
You literally said dutchoids evade taxes here >>49896399
Didn't you mean to say "avoid" in that case? Retard.

>> No.49897513

>>49897273
Why then did you enter this thread? Topkek

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49897548

>>49897337
>it just is, goy, you have to make peace with going back to financial serfdom, accepting cheap energy from Putin is worse than hell

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>>49897388
>the brits are completely fine since leaving
deluded. Highest inflation in europe. Immediately back to the strikes, riots and inflation of the 1970s.

Also record immigration from non-eu countries. More browns than ever.

Not to mention imminent trade way with the EU.

>> No.49897645

>>49897492
>You want Ukraine in control of Russia?
I don't care, i want cheap Russian energy
> How is that in european interests?
Ukraine doesn't matter to me or to 99% of Europeans, Russian energy does
>And after Ukraine, what next?
wah wah wah Putin is le next Hitler wah wah wah
>Yeah, why have a european empire where we have enough resources and influence to look after out own interests?
Why is it part of the European interests to be more influential? Who are those Europeans you talk about?
>europeans
Explain how the average European benefits from all the things you listed. How does the average European benefit from Ukraine joining EU as a wartorn country and how he benefits from not having cheap Russian energy.

>> No.49897689

>>49897644
This kek, they stopped immigration from relatively white eastern european countries but increased shitskin imports

>> No.49897712

>>49897645
>I don't care, i want cheap Russian energy
didn't ask lmao

>Why is it part of the European interests to be more influential? Who are those Europeans you talk about?
Ones who don't want to be cucked by powerful neighbours.

>Explain how the average European benefits from all the things you listed.
Explain how europeans gain from a strong economy are free market economics? Are you some kind of commie?

>> No.49897778

>>49897689
so because we have a shit gov we should just embrace being part of the EU and being full of nigs for eternity, go down with the ship?
>>49897644
>highest inflation in Europe
That's weird, it took me a 2 second google search to disprove it
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/documents/2995521/14636256/2-31052022-AP-EN.pdf/3ba84e21-80e6-fc2f-6354-2b83b1ec5d35#:~:text=Euro%20area%20annual%20inflation%20is,office%20of%20the%20European%20Union.

>> No.49897810

>>49892301
>chuds
Basically everything you call chudism was called liberal ten years ago.
https://youtu.be/y1OnDgBNlRU

>> No.49897823
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49897823

>>49897778
lol, where the proof?

>> No.49897854

>>49897689
Plenty of non whites voted for brexit precisely because of this, they thought (and rightfully) that they would be able to bring their cousins more easily
>>49897712
>didn't ask lmao
Yes you did lol, see>>49897492
>You want Ukraine in control of Russia?
Also thanks for conceding that entering in a conflict with Russia is not in the average European interests.
>Ones who don't want to be cucked by powerful neighbours.
Who are those? You still haven't explained shit. How is it the average European benefiting from the increasingly moronic EU imperialist agenda?
>Explain how europeans gain from a strong economy are free market economics?
But the average European isn't benefiting, living standards have been falling since the 70's or so, in other words, since EU became more influential. I know some Europeans are benefiting, particularly some business owners and EU bureaucrats, but how is it benefiting all of us?
> Are you some kind of commie?
Literal redit canned response

>> No.49897861

>>49897823
Says 8.2 average EU inflation, try harder champ

>> No.49897868
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>>49892301

Eu stands for wealth transfer in every sense.
Whilst socialism indeed send government coin to poor nation and person alike.
It is the middleclass taxpapyer living in north-west EU nations that pays over 50% tax over their income.

I saw this hand dandy image of taxfreedom
day. What it means is this virtual day is when the money you earn over the year is yours.
Obviously the later this date falls on equates to the amount(more) of income tax you pay...
The thing is of course that also you pay vat, and taxes levied on fuel/alcohol/tobacco and other goods.
Road tax, property tax and inheritance tax.

And while you have to illusion of living in an aaa rated economy. when you calculate how much of you money goes into taxes an what is truly yours to keep under the line is rather abysmal.

That's why you should work and make money in the high tier countries and build your home and family in a poorer South/Eastern country.
We for instance got Muslims in Germany /Netherlands that set up small business(and or take welfare too)They then under report their income and sluice the money back home to Turkey for example where they build their homes and finance their family.

It's called fraud and it is booming here, but to call that out is racism, so they get away with it more often than you think .
What you gonna do fine them ? they'll border hop and continue in the next country.

In the European union andy economic migrant can truly take the piss without consequence.
But god forbid you're a middleclass tax pawn
not declaring the money you made from a crypto yolo kek.

>> No.49897920

>>49897861
Sorry, 8.1%. I don't like perpetuating disinfo like EUfags still coping about a referendum six years ago.

>> No.49897960

>>49892356
>living in the fourth reich
If only

>> No.49897963

>>49892301
Cryptocurrency like Bitcoin and Ethereum is taking over. This isn't centralized and it is world fucking wide. Other undervalued and under-noticed blockchain projects such as Lox Network will also be dominating simply because they are solving a big problem that's bedevilling billions of mobile device users

>> No.49898065

>>49892808
>democratic
Wait, there are unironic vooters on this board?

>> No.49898068
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49898068

>>49892301
Then EU should have remained an EEG but has become a semi fedaralized socialist transferunion.
We should have a Nexit and Dexit too then the union can properly collapse .

That won't happen so migration is the only other option if you got some money.

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49898105

>>49897963
Crypto is bs and will be regulated in favour of cntralized digi-euro and imf coin .

>> No.49898145

>>49897868
TL;DR, you're doing good. I hate anything centralized. Blockchain is the real deal because of the freedom it gives

>> No.49898155

>>49897861
https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/inflationandpriceindices/bulletins/consumerpriceinflation/may2022

and 9.1% in UK in the same period. But I love that you didn't even look this up, just assumed the EU rate must be higher kek.

>> No.49898285

>>49898155
Why would I waste my time looking that up to argue with a guy who has made a FIFTH of the posts in this thread? Yep, wow, 1% higher inflation AFTER leaving the biggest trade bloc UK can't survive they'll be begging to come back in etc etc, I'd say that's a fucking amazing result

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49898284

>>49898105
If that's your opinion, why the hell are you here then? Regulation is imminent but you can't call crypto bullshit. Projects like Lox Network is working with the UK government, for instance, to see how mobile device theft can be dismantled and disrupted using blockchain. So you can just call crypto BS like that. This I am giving you one example out of thousands of advantages of crypto. Accept the technology, you faggot

>> No.49898289

>>49896682
> Finds strawman
> Ignores main point

This makes you right about the whole thing now. Italians are actually saints that do not evade taxes.

>> No.49898318

>>49898285
>This is how a bong says "I was wrong, thank you for correcting me".
Your welcome fren

>> No.49898328

>>49892301
The ten crashed so all currencies looked better by comparison

>> No.49898356

>>49898318
I was wrong indeed! I couldn't really give a fuck though, the UK has 0.9% higher CPI inflation despite leaving the EU. As I just said, I'd say that's a fantastic result all things considered. You'd expect it to be so much higher since the UK is doing so poorly!
Also, you're.

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>>49898356
indeed!

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>>49898468
>stats with no explanation on X/Y axis
Wow, fascinating stuff.

>> No.49898561

>>49898468
see>>49897854

>> No.49898638

>>49898561
>But the average European isn't benefiting, living standards have been falling since the 70's
Show me a single piece of compelling evidence for this and I'll completely concede the point.

>> No.49898666

>>49898638
>>49898494
Deranged Eurocunt, you still need to give context to your figures or this will be screencapped and reported to the Commission as online disinformation

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>>49892301
I believe this is a major argument of doomsayers. There is an inherent contradiction between parts of the eurozone. It is hard to have a monetary policy that is appropriate for all member states. Language barriers make it harder for labor to move between upgoing and downgoing areas of the eurozone on large scale. And since member states are sovereign, they can't just be left to go bankrupt because then they will leave.

>> No.49898769

>>49898666
>Don't ask questions, question things is bad
Who could behind this post? A hardworking white european maybe? kek

>> No.49898799

>>49892485
Which oracle tells you that?

>> No.49898843

>>49893891
If Soros hates China then why does he want to create a situation where Russian oil, gas, and other stuff is diverted from the EU to China at discount

>> No.49898855

>>49892301
>€100000
So like $10?

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>>49898284

I'm here because this is biz.
And biz is not just crypto, i too enjoy investing but i prefer bluechip "boomerstock" because they pay dividents.(yes i do long term compound investing) and at least you can decide your investments based on fundamentals.
In reality all markets are driven by whales, and good portfolio management matters.

Yes i'm biased against crypto.
Personally i was mining/trading crypto,and heard every fud and seen every pump and dump scheme under the sun before it even became mainstream.
I also had the joy of having my btc vanish in the 2014 Mtgox hack.

>inb4 keep it on cold storage wallet hurr durr
uhuh still need to have your name and bank account doxed to cash out.
It's not that is dislike crypto because i "don't know about it" au contraire. I think it's a ponzi schem based on greater fool theory and nothing else.

>> No.49898962

>>49898769
5 hours later. They paying you per comment or you on a hourly bases?

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>>49898769
I'm asking questions here... and you're not answering them. I despair, honestly.

>> No.49899026

>>49898962
>He's questing the narrative too much! What do we do??
>Accuse him of being a shill!!
>I already tried tha..
>DO IT AGAIN!!!

>> No.49899058

>>49899026
The only thing occuring here is people are "questing" the narrative you put out about the EU, and instead of carrying on debating it you decide to fling shit around like a chimp. Good luck to you in life, mate. You'll fucking need it.

>> No.49899107

Why do retards love shit like the EU so much?
What reasons does my tribe have to submit to the authority of foreign bureaucrats?
>muh tariff allience
We need more tariffs not less. Nothing about the EU makes any sense.

>> No.49899185

>>49892301
Because it will have Argentina tier inflation rate by eoy but with 0% interest rate

>> No.49899317

>>49898843
He doesn't care about that, that's just an unrelated consequence. BTW soros was literally behind the Tiananmen square protests, he has written about that too, and after this revolution was crushed, CCP seized assets that were related to him.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1989/08/08/funds-representatives-arrested-in-china/24e8b72c-d6fe-4753-a007-51d181239cb6/

>> No.49899429

>>49899107

We're your tribe, Anon. 4chan is your Nation.

>> No.49899455

>>49892356
if it was the fourth reich, why would we vote for alt right parties you retard

>> No.49899628

>>49899107
>We need more tariffs not less.
tell me more

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>>49898284
>how mobile device theft can be dismantled and disrupted using blockchain.

All praise the holy blockchain!
Yeah your example i hear in many different variations of blockchain tech.
Fundamentally "blockchain" is mere p2p datashare (i don't care for semantics)

Organizations recognized p2p is useful for more than downloading porn torrents.
Wef literally wishes to have digital biometric ID based on blockchain because it is decentralized and therefore more robust to hack attacks.

That's what holy "blockchain" really brings to the table, the fact you can't merely hack into a server to collect all the data.
Ironically it's big centralized companies that will end up using decentralized data tech to offset costs on data storage by outsourcing it to peers in the network.

That and the fact every mongoloid can fork their very own shitty altcoin and merchandise it.

>Accept the tech faggot.
I've used p2p tech since you where swimming in daddies nutsack you imbecile.

>> No.49899797

>>49899710
No ones uses p2p for anything besides pirating movies and porn. Decentralisation is not super useful for anything besides roleplaying cyberpunk fantasies.

The fact that so many but into blockchain shit without being able to explain actual use cases is depressing.

>> No.49899931

>>49893790
>monopolic rights and centralization
You mean standardization and efficiency?

>> No.49900017

>>49899429
My tribe is my tribe gay communist.
>>49899628
In all my models fine grained tariff control is the best form of taxation with least economic damage and the best way for policy makers to exert pressure in any direction they want.

Other taxes should be low and simple to calculate so you can easily estimate the future of an imagined business without spending years of research. When it's possible to produce something locally tariffs should be high. So the tax burden of an industry importing shifts in a way that encourages it to find ways not to import. Their financial interests are then served by building up local infrastructure which when established replaces the state tax income from the tariffs that aren't returning anything anymore since the industry started using local material.
Right now things like consumer electronics are a large part of the economy. The obvious thing to encourage local economic growth and jobs is simply to put extremely high tariffs on finished consumer products so local industry emerges that just puts together components and finishes the product.
All the different brands already use all the same components, if the products are finished locally they can also suit local needs better which allows for more economic output.
I'm just ranting but the case for tariffs is so obvious I don't know where to begin.
>but muh global efficiency
Nobody wants it. The most efficient system would be a completely central authority with absolute power over everything. The quest for efficiency always leads to monopolies like the globalist corporations that now own everything.

>> No.49900084

>>49900017
>When it's possible to produce something locally tariffs should be high.
If something can be imported for less than you can produce for domestically at cost, then you should do that. Economics 101. What's the point of tariffing things that others make better than you do? Might as well build famine roads and shit if your'e not running an economy based and rewarding efficiency and value creation.

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>>49892567

>> No.49900302

>>49892301
>>49892326
>>49892356
>>49892369
>>49892381
>>49892388
https://twitter.com/JeffSnider_AIP/status/1539442363399081985?s=20&t=u9VxAydXgcqdwDZisRIxjA

For (you) dumb kids

>> No.49900317

>>49900263
What happened to Britain between 1970s and 2020 that meant the economy wasn't so shit? hmmmm

>> No.49900325

>the most important thing right now is reducing CO2 output
Okay then use tariffs to move polluting industry from China into western countries with regulations and stop the constant insane cargo ship traffic.
>NOOO NOT LIKE THAT
>>49900084
>What's the point of tariffing things that others make better than you do?
What's the point of relying on foreign slave labor and then complaining about lack of jobs and economic growth?
What's the point of creating entire nations of consumers that don't know how to do anything? What's the point of basing your entire life on a fragile balance created through military force that allows you to be a lazy retard while the people you exploit get stronger?
>If something can be imported for less than you can produce for domestically at cost, then you should do that
See you're completely brainwashed like expected. It doesn't occur to you to question your conditioned dogma for even a second. You don't even try to argue, you just repeat the dogma as if that settles it.
What happens to you if China just stops shipping products? Will anything you rely on keep working? Will anybody even know how to do anything?

>> No.49900336

>>49892364
>Bongs influencing anything
Lmao, they're nothing but a brainwashed low iq slaverace

>> No.49900419

>>49900325
>What's the point of relying on foreign slave labor
Your population gets to enjoy cheaper goods and services than they would otherwise
>and then complaining about lack of jobs and economic growth?
Who wants slave labour jobs? Economic growth is hard when your'e not trading much and paying ay more than most countries for the same goods because you refuse to import anything you can make yourself.

That said you might prefer having an isolationist economy for other reasons. America did that for awhile. But you gotta accept the shit economy that goes with it.

>> No.49900670

>>49900419
>Your population gets to enjoy cheaper goods and services than they would otherwise
Temporarily. While they do they get less independent, self sufficient and capable. There's absolutely no upside unless your goal is to kill yourself.
>Who wants slave labour jobs?
They're being manned by slave labor because it's cheap. All you have to do to not have any slaves is make slavery expensive. This is incredibly easy, simple tariffs do it. As soon as you do automation becomes an order of magnitude more profitable and creates more jobs around creating automated factories.

>isolationist economy
See this is another example of how fucked in the head you are. Just the mention of tariffs makes you automatically think of North Korea. There's no actual thought going on in your mind, just memes. You're a mindless media puppet.
>you gotta accept the shit economy that goes with it
Absolutely mindless.

The original idea behind making countries interdependent was to reduce conflict. It's the only imaginable justification for the philosophy but it doesn't work. It just makes nation states irrelevant and puts all the power into the hands of international corporations so they're the ones that decide where to go to war instead of nations.
Institutions meant to represent the people are replaced with private ones that don't pretend to represent anyone but their stakeholders.
All the shit you mindless media puppets complain about is easily fixed but you don't want to fix any of it. You've been convinced to hate life, humanity, competence and everything good. You only love your demonic corporate overlords that feed you dopamine and will sacrifice anything for them.

>> No.49900872

>>49892673
>how bad shit is?
You realize it was an economy pain for political control over their own institutions and economy? Of course ending free trade agreements will immediately make it harder to buy stuff but long term the uk will do much better than the mainland.

>> No.49900891

What does it accomplish under current economic conditions when western nations make a serious effort to reduce CO2 output in their own industry?
Obviously the industry that's left in the regulated west is moved to cheaper unregulated areas like China.
Because "If something can be imported for less than you can produce for domestically at cost, then you should do that. Economics 101."

The only president in US history to act through suggested policies as if CO2 output is a serious problem was the former reality star Donald Trump. That's how upside down this clown world is.

>> No.49900955

>>49892301
Most beautiful continent since Atlantis fell. Also stop confusing the continent with the union.

>> No.49901503

>>49892301
I think the real reason chuds here are against it is because chuds here are very negative and the premise of the Euro union contains some elements of utopianism and such positivity is inherently against negativity.

>> No.49901620

>>49901503
This is how retards that use the word "chuds" actually think. Current thing = good. Practical concerns are irrelevant, trying to reach any goal is irrelevant. What matters is making a lot of naive braindead proclamations about what your ideal is, being a walking John Lennon song.

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>>49893790
this

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>>49901902
>democracy
eu very democratic

>> No.49902230

>>49901983
Add Italy to that. We never even had the illusion of a choice.

>> No.49902849

>>49901983
What book is this from?

>> No.49903440

>>49901503
EU as a concept is extremely anti diversity (member countries forbidden to have own currency, own laws, own traditions). This is not arguable. How the fuck does this work in the mind of the typical eu libtard? That is the question

>> No.49903542

If English was compulsory in all of Europe then Europe could survive. All Europeans could communicate, become a military, work across borders with ease, etc. It will never work because the French and Germans will continue to seethe by the fact that they have to learn English.

>> No.49903645

>>49892808
>>49892846
Retards detected. Pegging literal shit-holes and rich countries alike to the same currency is as unsustainable as it gets. But Europe is a cultureless wasteland so the 'integration' meme might unironically work. You can all blend into the same murky, grayish hue and rejoice about your 'Europeaness' kek.

>> No.49903690

>>49903645
Imagine a retarded burger talking about lack of culture hahahaahahaahahahaahahahaha

>> No.49903835

>>49892301
Socialism while importing millions of Africans is guaranteed collapse.

>> No.49903952

>>49903645
>Retards detected. Pegging literal shit-holes and rich countries alike to the same currency is as unsustainable as it gets. But Europe is a cultureless wasteland so the 'integration' meme might unironically work. You can all blend into the same murky, grayish hue and rejoice about your 'Europeaness' kek.
European Federation will be the most powerful nation ever seen in the entire history of our species. Seethe all you want, you can try to undermine Europe but you can't change the collective will of hundreds of millions of Europeans that want to go forward together and not apart, no matter what, FUCK YOU! Yes we won't be 100% whites, yes we will have a lot of diversity, most successful empires got there by attracting talent from all over the world, Europe is attracting all kinds of people, including based Russians running from the steam punky medieval Putin regime, imagine invading a nation for land in 2022, what a fucking retard, ahahhahahahaha, most important resource in this century ins't land, it's information technology... dumb fucking
Russians

>> No.49904013

>>49903440
> member countries forbidden to have own currency, own laws, own traditions
False on all accounts. Another mind ruined by EU seething. So many cases. Sad!

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>>49894051
>US is by far the most polarized and racially segregated western country in the world
Anon, I...
D-did you just say the USA is the most racially segregated country in the Western world?

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>>49895001
>You elect them to use their judgement to run the country.
Someone should propose legislation to replace the current window-lickers who are ""voting"" for mass importing ""refugees"", and giving them gibs.
Or is that what makes the EU "stronger"? If you give refugees free money, then they can spend that money to stimulate the economy?
Also, who the fuck is responsible for giving the UN money? Why the fuck are Euro countries responsible for sending gibs to Africa, when Africa just tells the UN to fuck off with their "treaties" and other bullshit? What the fuck does the UN do?

>> No.49904482

>>49897067
>all globo homo bs
shove it up your ass

>> No.49904587

>>49900955
>stop confusing the continent with the union
It's literally the flag of the union and OP clearly asks about the union. You're the only one confused here

>> No.49904643

>>49892301
I cant tell if i’m just doomposting or if everything concerning the future of the EU and its wagie citizens is fucked beyond belief.
Are we really going to have argentinian style inflation? Bros: i just wanted to graduate and earn a middle class wage to start my own business…

>> No.49904671

>>49904587
At least you agree it being the #1 continent ;)

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>>49897026
>You forgot to add the millions of qualified high IQ immigrants
Haha, what? Millions of hIghQ immigrants doing what, and coming from where exactly? Can you please elaborate upon the "Highly Skilled" jobs that these millions of genius foreigners have?

>> No.49904740

>>49903952
>most important resource in this century ins't land, it's information technology
Nah it's still oil. Wake the fuck up you deluded europoors. On what basis do you deserve to be first world right now? You produce nothing, you have no resources, you're relying on your enemies for both. You're weak and all your talk about MUH COLLECTIVE WILL amounts to nothing.

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>>49897126
>Since when is it a European interest to stop having cheap Russian energy?
Because energy is the cornerstone of any economy and if Russia can just fuck your entire economy by withdrawing supply at the drop of a hat you're essentially just a slave.

>> No.49904773

>>49904671
Number 1 is Asia obviously. Europe used to be the best tourist destination, now it's just the best setting for historic fiction.

>> No.49904802

>>49904766
>Russia can just fuck your entire economy by withdrawing supply at the drop of a hat
So the argument is
>Russia could fuck us over so we must fuck it over first
Sounds like a strategy a hysteric woman would make but then that's who runs EU

>> No.49904864

>>49904671
>At least you agree it being the #1 continent ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_wealth
NOPE

>> No.49905578

>>49904802
>Russia could fuck us over so we must fuck it over first
Nice strawman.
No, the argument is that we shouldn't be dependent on Russia for anything. That's it.

>> No.49905702

>Chud
Don't care tranny.

>> No.49905750

>>49903952
>Seethe all you want, you can try to undermine Europe
No one needs to try to undermine Europe, the EU seems to be doing a good job of that themselves.
>Yes we won't be 100% whites
I guess just keep importing 3rd worlders so you can give them gibs at the expense of your European citizens.
>most successful empires got there by attracting talent from all over the world
What talent are you attracting, and how exactly is this "talent" advancing Europe in anyway? I'm genuinely curious, is this foreign talent from 3rd world shitholes vital for for any particular industry? Or are they just memeimmigrants who come to chill in your land for the good life and free gibs?
>most important resource in this century ins't land, it's information technology...
Again, from where, and what exactly do these foreigners do that's so crucial to your IT sector? If IT is your most important industry, wouldn't it make sense to staff it with your own citizens? Otherwise, whoops, it looks like the most important resource(information technology) is suddenly ruled by foreigners, NOT Europeans, no?

>> No.49905774

>>49903952
>European Federation will be the most powerful nation ever seen in the entire history of our species.
The last time a single national entity was formed despite ineradicable differences in language, culture, religion etc it imploded so violently the aftershocks are still being felt to this day. Hint - it was the Austro-Hungarian Empire. It's been tried. It always fails. Eurofags will never realize that Europe is already too diverse to try and squeeze into a single geopolitical entity. Fuck you cunts deserve to fail, unironically. But keep coping bud.

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>>49904740
>Nah it's still oil. Wake the fuck up you deluded europoors.
Why doesn't NATO just use all that money they get to go secure Oil reserves in the Middle East? That way you don't have to keep paying saudi-scum Billions for that shit in the ground. Seems like a much better option to invest in an army that secures resources for your country, instead of investing in an army that just pays other countries for the "priviledge" to drill oil.

>> No.49905857

>>49896251
croat here, we're moving to euro soon. what a unnecessary clusterfuck. our currency already tracks euro and isn't allowed to diverge from the established exchange rate. why do we have to change our whole system that works, what benefits will the euro bring, except that everything will get more expensive when they change the prices

>> No.49905897

>>49905857
You'll be pegged to a currency which you'll have no control over whatsoever because it's Germans who decide its ROI etc. Oh, sorry, you asked for 'benefits'. Absolutely none.

>> No.49905913

>>49905774
Based, can't wait for it to collapse, sick of funding poor indebted shitholes like greece and italy

t. spanish BVLL

>> No.49905925

>>49905897
Roi = Rate of inflation

>> No.49905949

>>49905897
Granted, we're a small shitty corrupt country, but we're already defacto on euro. Our central bank has no power whatsoever, our shitty politicians can't inflate the currency, everything is decided in ECB. What is the point of moving to yet another currency.
>t. voted against joining EU, but sheep will be sheep
>captcha TXORT kek

>> No.49905961

>>49892383
I wonder who fucked up energy deals wit-It's the fucking EU.

>> No.49906005

>>49905750
>>Seethe all you want, you can try to undermine Europe
>No one needs to try to undermine Europe, the EU seems to be doing a good job of that themselves.
>>Yes we won't be 100% whites
>I guess just keep importing 3rd worlders so you can give them gibs at the expense of your European citizens.
>>most successful empires got there by attracting talent from all over the world
>What talent are you attracting, and how exactly is this "talent" advancing Europe in anyway? I'm genuinely curious, is this foreign talent from 3rd world shitholes vital for for any particular industry? Or are they just memeimmigrants who come to chill in your land for the good life and free gibs?
You will only see it in a generation or two, once those kids get an education and enter the workforce, 1st generation immigration is low skill, hard workers, 2nd generation are the highly educated. Miscegenation improves the gene pool.
>>most important resource in this century ins't land, it's information technology...
>Again, from where, and what exactly do these foreigners do that's so crucial to your IT sector? If IT is your most important industry, wouldn't it make sense to staff it with your own citizens? Otherwise, whoops, it looks like the most important resource(information technology) is suddenly ruled by foreigners, NOT Europeans, no?
I'm just saying the future wealth is not about resource extraction or manufacture, future wealth is about brains, and to have brains you need young educated people. European values are being eroded by feminism and globalism, immigrants from the 3rd world will make Europe based again.

>> No.49906013

>>49905949
>we're a small shitty corrupt country.
Right, but the EU won't fix that for you kek, and nor do they care. They want balkan cunts for cheap labour and access to discount resources. ANd now you'll be dealing in a currency over which you have no control, versus a currency which, ideally, you COULD manage.

>> No.49906022

It's all collapsing retard. Fuck EU fuck US fuck all this shit. DCA into HBAR, believe in the HBAR foundation and wait. fuck everything else.

>> No.49906028

Europe's only bet at staying relevant in the centuries to come is to unite. At the same time, that goes against our very nature.

We are probably just doomed. In 200 years we'll be way behind Asia.

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>>49905949
I'd rather be ruled by germans desu, this shit here is the fucking jungle, our politicians are plain right thieves
>t. moortuguese

>> No.49906047

>>49906028
>In 200 years we'll be way behind Asia.

Lose a zero and you'll be correct.

>> No.49906087 [DELETED] 

>>49906034
We're already ruled by germans and they didn't stop us from dumping a shit load of money into our failed airline

>t. also moortuguese

>> No.49906095

>>49906013
>but the EU won't fix that for you kek
We're in EU since 2013 if I'm not mistaken, and rightly, being in EU changed almost nothing. Except being in an open market decimated what little of our industry has left after the war. Everything is either sold or bankrupt.

>>49906034
That's the thing, we're ruled by germans on all the important issues that are in the germany's interest. The rest, they leave our corrupt caste alone to pillage in peace.

The only good thing is that we're heavily dependent on tourism for GDP, so we didn't have most of the scary crazy covid rules that the rest of the europe had. At least something, right.

>> No.49906112

>>49906087
>>49906034
I want them to let our politicians free because I know that they will fuck up so hard, there will be riots.
Everything needs to burn down.

>> No.49906149

>>49906005
Yeah, belgian muslim immigrants integrated nicely, most of them are doctors or software developers. There is no radicalization in the second and third generation immigrants, right?

>> No.49906160

>>49906095
Exactly. It was always 'business first' with the EU. Best thing is for that neolib hell machine to fall apart and let European nations build themselves back up, putting their own people's interest before some faceless bureaucrat's.

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>>49906005
>Miscegenation improves the gene pool.
Yeah, it sure helps the lower end of that spectrum by breeding with the higher end of the scale. But overall it just lowers the quality of the gene pool. Modern civilization was built from European genetics, I don't know why you think importing brown-skins is going to magically create some race of genetic-geniuses. Why do you think everyone wants to come to White countries? Could it possibly be that White countries are actually pretty good when they're not run by disingenuous morons and wildly irrational policies?
>I'm just saying the future wealth is not about resource extraction or manufacture, future wealth is about brains, and to have brains you need young educated people. European values are being eroded by feminism and globalism, immigrants from the 3rd world will make Europe based again.
Ok, so your plan is to continue eroding European society, making it as shitty as possible for native Europeans?

>>49906149
>Yeah, belgian muslim immigrants integrated nicely, most of them are doctors or software developers.
Huh? So they're just (((doctors))) who probably get paid to shill for vaccines and other bullshit, right? And what software are they developing that's so important to your economy?

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>>49906112
KEK, riots, he said.
The poortuguese won't riot and unite for shit. Everyone rather complain wile having a cafe on the sun.
We are too tame, some may say it was caused by salazar, he called the portuguese society "A country of bland customs"

>>49906095
well, it may happen as this anon said>>49906005, poortugal is attracting a lot of skilled labour and unskilled too.

>> No.49906791

>>49906415
>>I'm just saying the future wealth is not about resource extraction or manufacture, future wealth is about brains, and to have brains you need young educated people. European values are being eroded by feminism and globalism, immigrants from the 3rd world will make Europe based again.
>Ok, so your plan is to continue eroding European society, making it as shitty as possible for native Europeans?
European values today, aren't the European values that built western civilization, they have already been eroded.. LGBT, Socialism, Feminist, we need to go back to the roots, a family is a couple and their children, a marriage is between a men and a women, with the goal of having children. Divorce needs to be taboo again, yes, if you choose someone to marry you should hold on to the relationship for the sake of the children. I mean, it's in the fucking vows people vomit at their own weddings... 3rd world today has the values Europe used to have, they just don't have the institutions and generational wealth that the westerners have. They will change our society, by integrating them, we have to respect their baseness and they have to respect our progressiveness, that will lead to a more restrainted acceptance of LGBT ( don't ask, don't tell ), faggots kissing on the street shouldn't be accepted, it's revolting, studies have proven that straight people are as disgusted by that, as from seeing bugs in rotten flesh...

>> No.49906829

>>49892830
god damn europoors really are retarded

>> No.49906892

>>49906791
So you're going to put out the fire by adding gasoline to it?

>> No.49906933

>>49906892
make a stoichiometric mixture in a container and throw it into the fire
Watch what happens

>> No.49907589

>>49892425
>t. the least butthurt greek

>> No.49908126

>>49892728
>Because the EU makes burgers and bongs seethe by existing
Bong here. No we fucking don't, I only think about the EU when you've got British cunts trying to get us to rejoin.

>> No.49909595

>leaving the EU because of 1 recession
Grow up you fools