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So I’m reading The Bible and it cool and all but how do I get past the miracle bits?
I mean there’s no way any of that actually happened right?

>> No.49860930

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>> No.49860934

>>49860917
Fuck wrong board

>> No.49860945

>>49860917
Serious answer:
If you're willing to accept that their is a divine all powerful all knowing being why is believing the miracle parts any more of a stretch? I say this as a believer.

>> No.49860973

>>49860917
bro idk what ur talking about the Bible is the best fiction novel on the market, lotta plot holes though.

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>>49860917
you besta' stay on topic

>> No.49860980

>>49860917
Wherefore didst thou doubt. But really you’re kind of retarded. If you believe that there is a god that created the universe, you’re going to get caught up on that same god walking on water?

>> No.49860989

>>49860917
You're correct. It did not happen.

>> No.49861088

>>49860917
they needed to get someone from DC comics to write it

>> No.49861117

>>49860973
I remember being 14

>> No.49861116

>>49860945
Yes I am willing to believe in a creator.
But I get mental blocked when it comes to believing in humans performing miracles.
It’s not like it’s a choice for me you know.
>>49860973
Yes I enjoy reading it.
>>49860980
it’s not only Jesus, others did some crazy shit too.

>> No.49861135

>>49860917
have you ever seen something that made you go “whoah wtf lol” thats basically a miracle

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>>49860917
It's called a "Faith" because they can't prove it anon.

>> No.49861165

>>49861135
It’s not the same as curing blindness with a single touch or walking on water. Why doesnt that shit happen nowadays

>> No.49861202

>>49860917
Honestly, if Christianity resonates with you, go for it. Banking on atheism when it just makes you depressed in this cruel life is pointless in the grand scheme of things, correct or not.

>> No.49861259

>>49861202
I’m trying to figure it out. This is my first reading of a religious scripture. I write down passages I like and try to google some events and people when I can. Plan on going through all major religions like this. I need answers man

>> No.49861331

>>49860917
It's all true

>> No.49861356

>>49860917
OP the Bible is a book of parables meant to impart wisdom. A lot of Christians take it 100% literally and a lot of people (myself included) tend to believe it’s a lot of mythical stories condensed over the ages to teach people to be decent. I still believe in a creator but for example I don’t take the old testament 100% literally like le epic atheists imply we do. I’m sure some of it happened, Jesus was definitely a person on this earth, whether he was actually the ordained son of god or just a prophet is hard to say. But I still respect the book and things it tries to teach, even if I can’t bring myself to believe all of it happened as written. Maybe this helps you a bit.

>> No.49861374

>>49861165
it is basically the same and it does still happen. my personal anecdote is this lady at my church had cancer and we were all praying for her then one day her doctor did the scan and told her something along the lines of “the tumors are gone and we dont know why.” i get anonymous anecdotes on the internet are not that convincing but you can just search “medical miracles” and find a lot of other examples

>> No.49861381

>>49861259
It si truth
The Lord still healing.
https://youtu.be/ptxn3RVvDzU
https://youtu.be/0D8-_pPxr_Yv

>> No.49861387

>>49861165
>Why doesnt that shit happen nowadays
You are reading a book written and revised and edited by many men over a very long period of time and a lot of the shit in there is either outright fabrication or great exaggeration
With the Gospels in particular is it really hard to believe that Christ did none of those things whatsoever and that his followers were the old guard of a cult of personality centered around Christ and that his apostles, either wittingly or not, lied about much of what he did and said

>> No.49861424

Rock gotta have FAAAAITH.
Rock gotta have FAAAAAYYYYYTHH.
ROCK UH GOTTA HAFFFFFAAAAITH.
ROCKOTTAHAFFFAAAITHGETDAFUCKUP!

>> No.49861441
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>>49860917
How were the Pyramids built? Clearly there was power in ancient History that we have been lied about. God doesn’t work the same way in this age of grace through faith as he did in the past when he was dealing directly with Israel, he’s not dealing directly with them anymore, but with the whole world through the Holy Spirit, convicting them for not believing on his only begotten Son who died for your sins, was buried, and resurrected the third day.

People like you can always admit of “aliens” or some ancient miracle by some other worldly force, but you can never admit when the Lord does it.
>tldr
God doesn’t deal the same way with man today as he did before. If you can admit that the pyramids could not have been constructed by mere men, then you can also admit the Lord was able to perform miracles. If you’re reading the word of God to “feel good” you have the wrong intention. If you approach the word of God critically God knows your motive and won’t reveal anything to you because you do not have a zeal for the truth. The word of God judges you, you do not judge it. The fulfilled prophecies by the Lord Jesus Christ is proof that it was put together by the Almighty Creator.

And of course, by “the word of God” I mean the Authorized King James Bible (7th purification of God’s word - Psalm 12:6-7). Do not read any other Bible, especially if you’re English speaker.

>Prophecies of Christ life
https://youtu.be/b4hqWXyHoIw

Explain it.

>> No.49861452

>>49861356
Adding on to this, you have to remember the Bible was made by man, and man is imperfect. There was undoubtedly censored/removed parts of the original books, parts/meaning lost through translation over the years, things of that nature. We only have what the people that walked this earth all those years ago chose to preserve. And there is large speculation that there are more holy books/scriptures, I believe relating to the Dead Sea scrolls, locked up deep in the Vatican. I’m “Catholic” in that I was raised catholic, so take my word for it it would be very catholic of them to do that lmao.
TL;DR people suck and we probably aren’t getting the full picture after 2000 years of people with agendas messing with scripture.

>> No.49861479

Think of what they mean. They're not like a superhero power fantasy where women bite their lip and someone says "he's fast".

>> No.49861486
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>>49861441
ESCAPE THE ETERNAL HELLFIRE WHICH YOU DESERVE! HAVE HOPE AND PURPOSE.

>Revelation 20:11 & 15 KJV
11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
-
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Now if you have fear of this, of God... that's the way it is supposed to be, do not be deceived.

>Proverbs 9:10 KJV
10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

>How do i get saved?
Repent and believe the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, that He died for your sins, was buried, and resurrected from the dead the third day.

Repentance is simply a change of heart about yourself. It is written in 2 Corinthians 7:10 that 'godly sorrow' worketh repentance to salvation. It is to have sorrow towards God over what you ARE. The fact that YOU have sinned against God by breaking HIS law makes you a sinner against Him.
You were born corrupt, you are NO good according to scripture. Without Jesus Christ you are worthy and on your way to hell RIGHT NOW. Repentance can be summed up into simply: Coming to God as a sorry sinner...

Call upon and Recieve Jesus Christ as your PERSONAL Lord & Saviour and trust His shed blood on the cross for YOU, and believe that He resurrected.
STOP rejecting the one who DIED for YOU, the one who ROSE again. He is all which can justify a sinner in this time.

THE PASSWORD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arah-xtKCDc

>Romans 10:9-10 KJV
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
>10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

>1 Timothy 1:15 KJV
15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

>> No.49861485

>>49861424
O christ
If I could touch your body
I know not everybody
has gotta body like you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-EdCNjumvI

>> No.49861506
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>>49861441
>>49861486
If anyone wants good sound Bible doctrine & truth i highly recommend this channel. Especially the preacher & teacher 'Peter Ruckman'.
The man of this channel 'upgrades' old or new good plain Bible teaching & preaching, making it higher quality, adds scriptures & visuals making it smother and easier to understand.

Here's some good videos to start of with:

>The Gospels of the King James Bible | A Further Study on Dispensationalism | Dr. Peter S. Ruckman
https://youtu.be/B4n9HwYY1xw
>Dr. Peter S. Ruckman | Beginning and Ending of History | With Maps!
https://youtu.be/UczKwsNRnww
>Peter S. Ruckman | Antichrist | Mark of the Beast | Words That End in X
https://youtu.be/guFsuSWw8bk
>Peter S. Ruckman | Leviathan | The Serpent | Satan | The Deeps
https://youtu.be/5AZQCWzhPTM

Above all, lean on the Lord.

John 16:13 KJV
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

>James 1:5 KJV
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.

>> No.49861545

>>49861356
Yes that’s is exactly the way I look at it too.
>>49861374
It’s just something I have to experience to believe it. I have had 1 semi-paranormal experience in my life which was certainly not my imagination. Just enough to spark my curiousity not enough to turn a believer.

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>>49861486
ANONS! DO NOT BE LED ASTRAY BY THIS FALSE PROFIT!
Do yo know know that no one can be redeemed? Jesus was only a man that had access to powers YOU COULD HAVE TOO. You will be as a GOD and can have power over the fools like >>49861506 that trust in the martyrs. These unintiated know not the GNOSTIC truth that binds them to the god that failed.
Join us and learn the truth that NESTER knew, and start bending them and your own fate to your WILL. Only then will come into your own as a living being of light!

>> No.49861607

>>49861545
There's only one true faith and that's the traditional Catholic church of Christ. Don't get fooled by those who tell you that you will be for simply believing. If you have the time look through the Material on vaticancatholic.com it will explain all the shit that is happening in today's world.

>> No.49861636

>>49861441
That video mathematically proves the word of God a divine miracle.

Have hope: >>49861486
Bible Truth: >>49861506

>> No.49861654

>>49861506
Thanks anon. I will give it a listen while working out

>> No.49861675

Jesus was a Jew, so it's more likely that he was a scam artist, then a divine being.

>> No.49861703

>>49861387
>is it really hard to believe that Christ did none of those things whatsoever

yes it is hard to believe early christians chose to die horribly for a LARP and it is even harder to believe a LARP is what BTFOd greco-roman civilization and it even harderer to believe billions of
chinese mexicans anglos and nigerians still believe a random jew is god incarnate thousands of years later because of a LARP

>> No.49861746

>>49861654
Good, just know it is hard to understand all truths when you do not have the Holy Spirit, that’s why you must get saved.

The fulfilled prophecies also proves the word of God mathematically - the mother of all sciences:

https://youtu.be/b4hqWXyHoIw [Open]

>> No.49861750

>>49861545
jesus said if you seek the you will find so just keep pulling the thread and it will happen for you. the fact you even care about this stuff at all is a sign god is working in your life

>> No.49861774

>>49860917
wouldn't be a miracle if it wasn't hard to believe.
but why are you discussing religion on a business board?

>> No.49861845

>>49861259
https://realneville.com/txt/walk_on_the_water.htm

>> No.49861880

>bible
Americans are so fucking cringe

>> No.49862015

>>49860917
Read the Jeffersonian bible

>> No.49862057

>>49861116
>mental block
get over it, it's basically a requirement to believe it to be saved. you have to accept Jesus died for your sins, and then resurrected. if you cant believe that then that's your real block and won't accomplish much in terms of salvation.

>> No.49862085

>>49861845
Basically, when you think something is impossible or keep failing at something, you can think and use your imagination to create what you wish to achieve and once you manage to figure it out in your mind, then go and manifest it in the real, you are 'walking on water'. It's about not shutting your mind the the ability of god and the creative power that exists within all of us, which is gods creative power.

>> No.49862189

>>49860917
>I mean there’s no way any of that actually happened right?
Is that a claim or a question?

teleological argument. The odds not merely you, but any of this, at all, are vanishingly insignificant. You have already won countless consecutive lotteries of incalculable fortunes and you doubt the author of it all can't make a donkey chatter?

Talking snake? Look in the mirror. A talking ape. Get over yourself. The miraculous being uncommon is to be expected... so you would notice and pay attention when you actually witness one.

When miracles occur in the Bible, pay attention. Someone is trying to get your attention.

>> No.49863382

>>49860917
maybe, I'm waiting for lovelace to finish his shit so I can play a visual novel where I can have a romantic comedy with Jesus

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>>49860917
it did happen anon, you can even still see miracles now

>> No.49863460

>>49861259
I’m more of a deist but I’ve read plenty of religious text and have found certain passages, reassuring, full of practical philosophy, and poetic. It is no different than reading a great poem or listening to an inspiring speech. If it floats your boat, it floats your boat.

>> No.49863461

>>49861845
Most based post in the thread.

>> No.49863463

>>49860917
>I mean there’s no way any of that actually happened right?
Haha thats the crazy bit.

>> No.49863473

>>49861703
Anon, people go and die for cults of personalities in military conflicts. These are, in fact, LARPS.

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>>49860917
Look at this shit, how absolutely miraculous it is. Then think the creator just waited 14 trillion years after to talk to some sand people.
Evolution, Big Bang, life, absolutely elegant unimaginable and beautiful concepts. A sky wizard who snaps his fingers to create a 6000 yrold world and impregnates a 13 yrold? That’s neither impressive nor realistic. You shame God when you reduce his abilities to mere magic and think his son acts like a cheap magician. Seriously, look at my pic, and compare it to walking on water. Get the fuck out of here if you think that’s the same person.

>> No.49863552

>If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known), then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the Lord your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt, and none of the condemned things are to be found in your hands.

Holy based

>> No.49863571
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>>49863552
Of course you love that quote.

>> No.49863586

>>49860917
Oh ye of little faith

>> No.49863596

(((they, yes even back then))) burned the Library of Alexandria to consolidate knowledge to a select few. Modern religion is boomer facebook lmao, real spiritual ceremonies had mind-altering drinks for the high priests to commune with the creator(s?). nowadays these niggers in robes drink wine, get money and pay no taxes because they are part of perpetuating this highly redacted (light) grimoire of wisdom.

>> No.49863626

>>49860917
yes anon it happened, because your OP pic is fucking god, and he can do whatever the fuck he wants. he just so happens to be merciful, and kind, and doesn't exploit the power that he is.

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is this a cbaw thread

>> No.49863639

>>49863596
You can buy Ergot online. Stuffs pretty dangerous though.