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Will this upcoming recession finally kill this?

I'm sick of funding lazy southrons

>> No.49738874

We need to split up in North EU and South EU

>> No.49738886

>>49738857
probably yes
the EU cost to much and produces nothing

>> No.49738897

>>49738857
I do hope so.
t. Italian

>> No.49738918

>>49738874
This

>> No.49738930

>>49738918
>>49738874
No. It needs to stop existing all together.

>> No.49738939

>>49738930
yes it is pointless to have any super structure that produces nothing

>> No.49738942

>>49738930
this

>> No.49739533

Russian shills out in full force today

>> No.49739575

>>49739533

based

putler vatniks on full damage control

the sanctions are working and russia is losing!

>> No.49739691

>>49738857
>lazy
So why do they move to our countries and work extra time?

>> No.49739721

>>49738874
The entire point is devaluing the Euro with southern debt so Germany can export more.

>> No.49739730

>>49738857
>>49738886
>>49738897
>>49738918
>>49738930
>>49738939
>>49738942
>>49739533
>Russian shills out in full force today
This

>> No.49739760

>>49738874
No, we need to split northern europe (denmark up and only estonia from the baltics) from the piece of shit that is the rest of the world

>> No.49739916

>>49738857
yes, it's already cracking
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ecb-holds-emergency-meeting-discuss-market-turmoil

>> No.49739921

>>49739533
>faceless technocrats and lobby whores are le good and if you think otherwise you are literally hitler

>> No.49739931

>>49739533
hah! we are going to crush Russia even if we have to eat grass and freeze to death in the winter! that that Putin!

>> No.49739944

>>49739533
We must destroy le putler guys, send 1 trillion to Zelensky pls ASAP

>> No.49739974

>>49739760
We actually need to glass the entire g*rmasphere, we'll have to deal with the fallout but the tradeoff is worth it 100%

>> No.49740000

>>49738886
goal of EU is to prevent a war between Germany and France.
EU has been so successful that we completely forgot that such a war is a possibility

>> No.49740019

>>49738857
i do hope we go back to being economic union (pre Treaty of Lisbon) and not 4th Reich project governed by german communist scum

>> No.49740025

>>49740000
Originally that was the goal but the project quickly moved out of its boundaries and now they attempt to create a European superstate.

>> No.49740033

>>49740000
>EU has been so successful that we completely forgot that such a war is a possibility
Which is arguably worse than regular limited warfare to remind people of the eternal laws of life.

>> No.49740062

>>49740000
>He believes propaganda

>> No.49740061

I'd kill myself if I was born in Russia

>> No.49740077

>>49738874
This.
As a southerner former I'm tired to sell food at cheap prices to those ungrateful northerners just because we are part of an union and the EU funds part of the expense. I want them to pay full price like the rest of the world does. Else they can use butter and stick to bear instead of oil and wine.
They can keep their shit, I don't need anything at all.

>> No.49740085

>>49740025
we need an European superstate to be able to compete with the likes of USA and China

>> No.49740132

>>49740085
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU NEED TO STAY SMALL AND DIVIDED DON'T YOU WANT TO BE HECKIN BASED NATIONALISTS WHO JUST HAPPEN TO BEND THE KNEE TO WASHINGTON/MOSCOW/PEKING?!

>> No.49740179

>>49740085
The fucking bongs used to own half the Earth

>> No.49740185

>>49738857
First we have to keep funding dirty Mediterranean niggers until we’re poor, it started yesterday with the new bond buying Programm. Then the whole shit pile will start burning.

>> No.49740194

>>49740085
The European structures are being infiltrated by the very waste of national political elites. It is needless to say what quality of politicians we have in Europe, so the economic slide down the slope of the entire continent should not come as a surprise.

>> No.49740214

>>49740179
>The fucking bongs used to own half the Earth
And where did it get them? Turns out owning a bunch of empty lands and some poos isn't enough to compete with a proper industrial powerhouse

>> No.49740253

>>49740214
I don't know, 500 years of independence? You're brainwashed by the EU propaganda so I don't expect you to understand

>> No.49740275
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49740275

>>49738874
Seems like Eastern Europe is where the cancer is.

>> No.49740287

>>49738857
just wait until whats left of ukraine joins. Pray for a civil war and Poland and Hungary grabbing big chunks instead.

>> No.49740295

>>49740214

>proper industrial powerhouse

I hope you are not talking about the US because you have outsourced all your production and you are starting to look more and more like Brittain every day.

>> No.49740299

>>49740253
>500 years of independence
As opposed to the various other great powers of the time? What are you even trying to say here?

>> No.49740308

>>49740275
Imagine being Croatia lmao

>> No.49740325

>>49738857
No you're stuck together forever, get used to it. You'll probably have to bail them out again though

>> No.49740347

>>49740275

Poland sure do love their gibs. I am surprised that Romania is a more productive member than Hungary. Even Greece is.

>> No.49740359

>>49739944
This.

Kys brainlet ruskys

>> No.49740361

>>49740299
size of a nation is irrelevant to its ability to compete

>> No.49740364

>>49740275
at least EE economies grow while greek, italian, spanish, portugal, french etc doesn't

>> No.49740377

>>49738874
>Split?
>North South?
How about killing it.

>> No.49740386

>>49738874
We wouldnt have left if this had happened.

>> No.49740387

>>49740061
Based AF

>> No.49740400

>>49740361
Imagine believing this unironically. God I wish I had zero understanding of anything, must be a nice and carefree life.

>> No.49740407

I wish it fucking dies.
Got to love their retarded rules, like fuel companies having to deliver a certain amount of renewable energy every year, which adds like 50 cents to the fucking gas prices, because the entire renewable horseshit is a completely unsustainable joke.
And the moment they started forcing refugees on countries was the moment this union was completely dead.
I hope countries are forced to prop up some failing shitpits to a point they just nope out of this union.

>> No.49740442

>>49740400
want an even better example? the Dutch West India Company

>> No.49740455

>>49738857
It was going to die by its own
But then the stupid Russians invaded ukrania and now EU + NATO are stronger than ever. Fuck.

>> No.49740460

>>49738857
Gibs me dat money northener

>> No.49740496

>>49740442
Didn't save the Netherlands from ending up under the French boot though, so try again.

>> No.49740535

>>49740364
Going from 0 to 50 is easy. Going from 99 to 100 is harder.

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>>49738857
>>49738874
>>49738886
>>49738897
>>49738918
>>49738930
>>49738939
>>49738942

>>49739533
>>49739575
>>49739730
yes, now they started baking multiple threads a day

>>49739760
>>49739916
>>49739921
>>49739931
>>49739944
>>49739974
>>49740019
>>49740077
>>49740253
>>49740275
>>49740287
>>49740308
>>49740407
>>49740455
gtfo shills.

>> No.49740624

>>49740598
>MUH RUSSIAN BOTS
What year is it, 2016?

>> No.49740634

>>49740535
What are you talking about, they're already higher than Portugal and Greece, lmao.

>> No.49740725

>>49740496
Definitive victories exist only in your faggot hodler brain, now go stack some more sats

>> No.49741490

>>49740598
These two posts (>>49740275, >>49738897) are made by the same anon you fucktard! It's my phone and my laptop. Yet you classified as opposed, as if I'm a Russian bot and a EU-loving person at the same time. You better start training sucking cocks for when your boss EU won't exist anymore.

>> No.49741876

>>49740275
this is the greatest brainlet filter stat to ever see the light of day

>> No.49741925

>>49739533
I HATED THE EU BEFORE RUSSIA INVADED CRIMIA IN 2014. I HATE YOUR EUCENTRIC ASS AND I WOULD GO TO WAR TO DESTROY THE FUCKING EU AND RAPE EVERY SINGLE EUCENTRIC RETARD IN MY COUNTRY.

>> No.49741968

I think the eu sucks

>> No.49742001
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49742001

B E L G I U M

>> No.49742196

>>49738897
But who will co-sign Italy’s loan if there is no EU? Isn’t the entire point to dump the loan’s responsibility on the rest of Europe whenever there is a threat of having to work past 60? Or will you just tell us how heartless we are when we won’t ok the loan then also? :(

t. Dutchman

>> No.49742255

>>49742196
What denbts has "the EU" co-signed as of today? The answer is none

>> No.49742284

>>49742196
Why do the Dutch put up with being a cash cow for the rest of Europe? What do you get out of it?

>> No.49742351

>>49742284
they're not they're just so stingy that they're the only ones complaining

>> No.49742380

>>49742284
They're basically Europe's internal Seychelles together with Luxembourg

>> No.49742381

>>49738857
lol no
pigs will just be forced into austerity measures again

>> No.49742447

>>49742381
this message was posted by a g*rman

>> No.49742614
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49742614

WEAK AND FEEBLE LOT, YOU ARE. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE LEFT. ONCE EVERYTHING COLLAPSES AND WE PUSH THE REFUGEES INTO THE NORTH SEA, WE WILL PROSPER.
RULE BRITANNIA!

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49742661

>>49738857
FUCK EU
FUCK EURO

VIVE LA FRANCE
VIVE LE FRANC

THAT IS ALL

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49742745

>>49742661
Fucking BASED. Join us, friend, save your country from the hordes of niggers and we can rule the planet together once again.

>> No.49742766

>>49742255

Look up “NextGenerationEU”. Italy got over 190 BILLION in loans for reform and relief because of the absolute fucking shithole state of it. All of the EU countries bare the responsibility for paying off that loan should Italy fail to do so. Tell me when that corrupt shithole has ever paid off a loan without complaining about “muh free time”.

>>49742284
I don’t know anon. The one time I was applauding our prime minister was when he was the last one with a fucking backbone saying “no” while Italians were whining how heartless he was during the corona “crisis”. Had they saved up any bit of money they wouldn’t have been in that situation to begin with, but instead it was everybody else’s fault. Lazy fucks, holy shit.

>> No.49742784

>>49742661
>>49742745
you retards even fight over fish

>> No.49742857

>>49742766
>NGEU
Who's the lender?

>for reform
So it's actually corruption of the Italian rulers on behalf of the eurocrats, got it

>> No.49742873

>>49738874
Basically the nuclear powers, economic powerhouses, versus the italians, spanish, greeks etc?
lmfao the whole point of this was to AVOID another war in europe.

>> No.49742877

>>49742614
Mashallah brother

>> No.49742942

>>49742784
As the two alpha males of the continent it is only natural to have a healthy animosity for each other. When we began to work together things fell apart rather quickly. The fact that we both fought against the Nazis to save the destroyers of the European people was a tragedy. We can undo that tragedy by destroying Europe, kicking out the colonisers and eventually dooming America and letting Palestine genocide the Israelis.

>> No.49742943

>>49739533
lol @ your fake moral superiority

you shun russian gas and instead signed a deal to buy gas from egypt and israel, russia looks like a fucking angel compared to either of those two

>> No.49742953

>>49742873
>the nuclear powers
Literally who? France has half its capacity offline and Germany shut it down completely

>> No.49742959

>>49742745
If Euro crashes we have a small chance to leave that shitty union. Otherwise Macron will continue to push Globohomo agenda till the end.

>>49742784
They're our best ennemies, much better than krauts. They had french kings for a while after all.

>> No.49742979

>>49742943
I'm sure the jews will be very generous and sell it cheaper than the russians were and definitely won't gouge prices

>> No.49743017

>>49742857
The ECB, I get your point. So instead we’ll get inflated because of these fucking cunts.

>>49742873
With what kind of cash. They have turned into the laziest fuckers in the EU

>> No.49744136

>>49742196
> Isn’t the entire point to dump the loan’s responsibility on the rest of Europe whenever there is a threat of having to work past 60
bro my dad has been working full time since he was 19 and now he'll probably have to hold on until he's 65. I will start working later and I don't know if I will even ever see retirement money

>> No.49744172

>>49738874
>Keep Poland
>Axe Italy

>> No.49744192

>>49738857
>Will this upcoming recession finally kill this?
The EU or the US or Canada or Austraia, Japan, South Korea or the UK etc? kek no. It's going to fucking bury what's left of China and Russia though. That is the whole point.

>> No.49744223

>>49744172
Poland is important for the German economy, so yes.

>> No.49744399

>>49744223
no summer holidays for you Han then, enjoy those polish beaches

>> No.49744403
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>>49738857
The EU is in recession since 2008. Now they forcing covid measures, green policies, banning themselves from russian resources, gender quotas, etc to finish it.
Politicians have no responsibility. They ruin everything they touch.
Everything what works is working despite politics.

>> No.49744462

>>49742196
The problem with italy is that the interest on the public debt they have is too high. They could easily have a positive net balance but the interest is killing them. The only way to save them is to stop being Jews and to not ask for interest.

>> No.49744517

>>49738857
We are literally gonna have a military-industrial complex now. It is only the actual beginning of the EU.

>> No.49744536

>>49744399
The Polish Baltic coast is unironically superior to Italy's shitty beaches. I'd never go to Italy for a beach holiday.

>> No.49744570

>>49744399
You can stay if you promise to pick Asparagus, Luigi.

>> No.49744674

>>49744403
>The EU is in recession since 2008.
place like Romania and Ireland have the highest gdp growth in the world, of the top 20 in GDP growth in 2021 6 were in the EU.

>> No.49744769

>>49744517
>We are literally gonna have a military-industrial complex now. It is only the actual beginning of the EU.
This. The remilitarisation of Europe has begun. All the boys in my kids school are doing little parade ground drills now and they are opening a shooting club for them because there is such a big interest in shooting again since Ukraine kicked off

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49745003

>>49744674
Yeah you believe the propaganda.
I hope you are not a zealot so I'll try to illustrate reality for you:
1.: You have a static market. You double the money supply. Next year the GDP growth will be 100%.
2.: You borrow 100 billion EUR and spend it on useless shit. You will have +100 billion GDP and 100 billion in debt.
GDP doesn't mean anything. It's a tool for propaganda.
Maybe some countries grew but the EU in average is in recession.

>> No.49745133

>>49738857
yeah you should try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwezjkHEHz8

>> No.49745143

>>49738857
Yes.

>> No.49745508

>>49742196
Just don't pay our bills. YOu'll make us a favor. EU money go to Italian cronies and bureaucrats.

>> No.49745864

>>49739730
>>49740598
fuck off EU shills
the fact that most of you faggots are vaxxed gives me hope

>> No.49745892

>>49745864
idy nahui ivan

>> No.49748454

The EU needs to band together otherwise we will be too compromised with inner conflicts and be vunerable to china and russia

>> No.49748603

>>49738874
Shut the fuck up and go back to work my nigar, debt is not going to pay itself. Anyway im of to my siesta.

>> No.49748674

>Lazy
Germany and its reich (eu) destroyed the entire south industry for their profit
do some dyor

>> No.49748730

>>49748454
Right? The unanimous support for the Ukraine from all members of the EU made Putin quite mad, I'm proud of us. I don't mind supporting some poorer countries, it should be a common goal for humanity anyway to support the less fortunate ones, might as well start here. There are problems sure, but the EU is growing and with more influence the common good will increase as well. It's looking pretty grim for Putin, despite what his state propaganda says. Just look at the desperate online trolls, would a winner pay money to inorganically try to divide his enemies? That's small pp energy

>> No.49748863

>>49748730
Oh, and all russian civilians are quite welcome to leave that hellhole, imagine growing up there and seeing your future ruined by some old dictator that nobody wants in power anymore. Come to the EU, we need wualofied workers, might as well catch up with extended family that had to flee the Ukraine here. Build a life under the safe blanket of the EU, you aren't responsible for the war, that's on Putin alone

>> No.49749538

>>49742196
Crazy idea but maybe we all learn to live within our means. The southern european countries want a northern standard of living while keeping their lazy but satisfying lifestyles.

>> No.49749756

This is fucking retarded
If the EU collapses, Europe itself will fall so far economical behind everyone it would just be funny, China would own the continent within a few years because of the belt and road, USA loses it's lapdog to the commies and will fall soon after undoubtedly
After that there's nothing saving Russia from them either
After that time to eat the monthly bug ration before your reeducation classes

>> No.49750512

>>49740275
wtf Luxembourg are playing us for fools!

>> No.49750598

>>49738857
Which do you prefer Eurobro? Sovereign debt defaults or hyperinflation? There's no shale oil coming to bail you out this time.