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49724624 No.49724624 [Reply] [Original]

>Morgan Stanley is predicting there will 11 more rate hikes by the fed in the next eleven months
>they predict the hikes will range from 0.75% to 1%
This will kill bitcoin for a decade until rates come down.

>> No.49724680

Bitcorn actually goes up though, just have a bit of patience

>> No.49724725

god i wish

might actually all in bonds at 10%

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49724730

Inshallah 5$ BTC and 1 cent ETH EOY 2023

>> No.49724755

the fed said theyre planning on lowering rates in 2024 which lines up with the next halvening. if theres a recession rn along with these rate raises we could get the deepest bear market ever but a massive bullrun in 2024-2025 if things start to recover then too

>> No.49724759

>>49724624
No fucking way

>> No.49724840
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49724840

> interest rate over 10%
> core cpi 6%
yeah right

>> No.49724868

>>49724755
They just say that at first to not crash the markets.

They will just string a long “one more rate hike due to inflation” until we hit 10% interest rate.

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49724876

Crypto was 100% dependent on QE and low interest rates and now that it's over, there is literally no reason for crypto to go up.

Even bagholders themselves admit that they only hold because they think the Fed will re-initiate QE

>> No.49724920

>>49724868
if we hit 10% interest rate the government will default on its debt

>> No.49724953

>>49724624
The average investor is thrilled that he can stop buying shitcoins and start buying bonds again.

>> No.49724989

>>49724920
No retard higher interest rate = lower bond yields = cheaper guberment debt

>> No.49725057

>>49724876
Which they most likely will in time for the next halvening.

>> No.49725082

>>49724989
retards calling others retards. never change /biz/.

>> No.49725129

>>49725057
Even if you're right, they will do the exact opposite through QT and nuke the price for at least 6 months. There is no reason to hold until they change course. Being long during QT is just as stupid as being long during QE

>> No.49725137

>>49725129
>being long during QE
I mean short during QE

>> No.49725264

>>49724920

FUD

inflation is out of control yes, but a big driving force is the inflation based on industry.
Food is fucked especially wheat cuz of the war.
Tech and areas of the supply chain is fucked cuz of china's covid policy.
the inflation of stocks and crypto didnt help.

but on the other hand, savings rate is dropping sharply, its like 6% now. (means no on has money, i reckon the feds are targeting 2-3%)
employment is going down.
stocks are taking a dive, so will the housing market.
recession is here.
certain industries have huge inventory atm they can't sell.

There are many reasons the fed took this long to do something. The overarching reason of course is the Fed risk destroying the world. But ancillary to that they were betting on the industry based inflation to be transitory. the war + chinas covid lockdown fucked that bet so now they HAVE to do something. Further that inflation seeped into other markets.

this is what the fed will do
>fud the markets
>wait for savings rate to go down
>hope the war ends soon
>wait until china gets their shit together hopefully within 6 months
>endure stagflation for 1 year maybe 2.

Let her rip again. we will get the last leg of this golden bullrun we have seen from 2011. After that usd crashes. america has to go to war with china or china just takes over as reserve currency. the jews win again (check why blackrock is buying evergrande)

>> No.49725298

Not possible. Unless the U.S. plans on spending 100% of tax revenue on the interest alone.