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For example all of crypto is down 90% essentially.
Stock market is down pretty much 50-60% especially when compared to M2.
Gas is through the roof and unafforable for the average person.
Dollar is inflating.
So how the fuck is nothing pumping when compared to toilet paper USD? Is it just a short term pullback before USD rugs and the money has no choice but to go to assets? It makes no sense.

>> No.49647258

>>49647189
All of those printed dollar are not in the pockets of people you dunce. The banks hold them.

>> No.49647267

bump
wtf is going on

>> No.49647332

>>49647189
We just had record fiat inflation for 2 years, a dip should be expected but short term.
Fiat supply inflation leads to price inflation and volatility increases. This is all part of the volatility.
Nothing only goes up

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>>49647189
what are financial conditions?
what does it mean to tighten financial conditions?
what is liquidity?

>> No.49647423

>>49647332
So you predict this to be a last desperate attempt from the printers? they will fail and money will have no choice to flow to anything BUT fiat?
Timeframe on this? It really blows I didnt sell to at least rebuy lower like now as now I have nothing left.

>> No.49647462

>>49647366
>using logic on a jewish ponzi scam world economy
stfu nigger like you know anything about muh "economics" and what actually happens behind the scenes lol

>> No.49647545

>>49647332
Interest rates are going to keep rising at least until we go through the mean on asset prices. Crypto is almost there, stocks are right behind, but housing has a long way to go. Biden has specifically made it his administration's goal to curb the inflation in housing and food, so don't expect punches to be pulled just because the S&P is suffering.

>> No.49647562

>>49647423
It depends on how they respond but the fed only has one more play left to stop inflation but it’s their best one.
QT.
Markets always rebound and Biden can’t have this drag into his re-election year, 2024. That’s the same year as the halving and Bitcoin will be going up no matter the macro situation.

>> No.49647647

>>49647189
basically going from overbought to oversold

overcorrecting, so sure vs useless usd they're cheap rn, just dont yolo in 100% on leverage.

>> No.49647650

>>49647189
>money has no choice but to go to assets?
The reason why stuff like this is possible is because some of the money in financial markets is not a hard asset like you think. A lot of it was just borrowed margin money so when they sell to pay that back, that money actually ceases to exist. You did know that banks create money out of thin air didn't you?

>> No.49647740

Here is a brainlet explanation:

We have had inflation the past 2 (2020-2021) years due to muh money printer:
>Everything went up

We are now entering deflation period:
>Everything goes down except dollar, gas and oil

>> No.49647748

>>49647545
Interest rates would have to go up a lot more to make any difference.
High rates are long term inflationary anyways.
Think of the extra money created out of nothing. That goes up as interest rates rise. High rates are trendy sell the news events but they just compound high inflation long term
Look at the record inflation in the 70’s and 80’s
First you see commodities spike, like current situation
Then you see high risk assets peak before the blow off top like the late 80’s

>> No.49648078

>>49647748
Interest rates are the reason why the drop is happening you goof. They don't have to outpace the CPI to stop the raging debt inferno, despite what retards say.
And although they're long term inflationary, they temporarily keep money out of circulation while volatility and shortages are chewing up production lines. Lifting them off zero also stops people parking huge quantities of loaned cash in massive assets and long term holds where the velocity falls flat. More velocity, more taxing and more opportunity to permanently remove a dollar from circulation.

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Unless the kikes somehow decide to deregulate industry and stop taxing the goyim, this is the death of the western civilisation.
Even if, by some miracle, you'll have a return to normality, you'll have loads of problems. Niggers chimping out due to lack of gibs, re-learning manufacturing practices and getting zoomers to work in a production line instead of collecting mental illnesses while fingering their bungholes... none of that is easy.

>> No.49648803

>>49648078
Bullshit
That’s why we have the 70’s and 80’s as proof you’re wrong

Only retards talk about interest rates and think they’re to blame.
The real cause is markets don’t go up forever .
You idiots think interest rates are to blame but that’s just the most recent excuse. First it was quarantine, then it was supply chain shortages and now its interest rates but it was going to happen no matter what
Interest rates aren’t even at 3% you dumb ass
What happens if we go to 10% like volcker

>> No.49648954

>>49648803
Jesus. I hope this is a joke.

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>>49648803
I think we can both agree that's not likely to happen. It'll put a lot of kikes out of business. All of the progress BlackRock made would be nullified by a stroke of the pen and the average faggot with a mortgage will suck start a shotgun by the end of the week.

>> No.49649254

>>49647189
Controlled demolition for cheap assets. People are worried about getting priced out of gas today when they should really be worried about getting priced out of all assets tommorrow.

>> No.49649360

>>49647189
>Dollar is inflating.
wrong. the dollar is strengthening, Yen and Euro are cratering

>> No.49649445

>>49647545
Punches will be pulled when a recession kills the supply chain and babies begin dying from general shortages (OTC medication, diapers, clothes, baby food, everything else made in China) instead of just a fomula shortage or mommy complaining about having to appropriately ration the child support payments.
Investment is more than just degenerates gambling when we start talking about paying truckers, container docking fees, transportation costs, etc. "Curbing inflation" doesn't work when the supply chain is beaten down.

>> No.49649515

>>49649254
Bingo
>>49649360
Dollar is strengthening against other trash fiat currencies
The euro and yen are being burned to the ground even worse
US sanctions hurt the dollar strength going forward
Other countries aren’t cool being held hostage financially

>> No.49649722

>>49649445
A recession is what will fix supply chains. All the production is still perfectly fine and basically every currency in the world was inflated at once, so imports and exports aren't doing too bad. It's the odd and volatile demand which has been driving shortages, and this demand came from people having free money and a reason to make drastic life changes. We need to reduce demand then push normalfags back into their usual consumption pattern.

>> No.49649768

i think its a squeeze for land/real estate

>> No.49649931

>>49649722
Physical supply chains aren't fucked from volatile demand related to free money. They're fucked from globally dysfunctional COVID policy and the ripple effect of those policies into the energy sector. If anything, the free money has made the supply chain issues more relaxed than they would be otherwise.

>> No.49650865

>>49649768
This. Expansion, contraction and milking goyim out of their possesions. The money supply still keeps rising, unless they burn it. it is only temporarily witheld form citculation. Priniting alone does not solve anything for TPTB, it's only a mean to get into juicy resources. Literal economic hitman meme