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[Anonymous No.49562026]

What are the societal frameworks necessary to build something like this?

[Anonymous No.49562047]

slavery

[Anonymous No.49562049]

>>49562026
nationalism, monogamy, a god fearing populace, "struggle" in the old sense, etc

[Anonymous No.49562093]

>>49562047
Construction started in 1190 almost 400 years before Europeans met sub-saharan Africans.

[Anonymous No.49562106]

>>49562026
No red tape. Back then people could basically do whatever they wanted as long as they had the funding.

[Anonymous No.49562130]

>>49562026
Anti-semitism.

[Anonymous No.49562137]

if they could build something 20 times the size on the same patch of land for the same price like they can today with a modern tall building they would have.

i'm just assuming i have no idea how much any of this costs

[Anonymous No.49562140]

>>49562026
Jews stripped of political power.

[Anonymous No.49562156]

>>49562093
>slavery didn’t exist before we learned about niggers
you expect people to believe this?

[Anonymous No.49562184]

>>49562137
Modern high-rises aren't cheaper, this building cost $1.25 billion

[Anonymous No.49562191]

>>49562093
>implying theocractic monarchies aren't build upon slave labor
It was slavery, if you say something else you are romanticizing slavery of white people by "white" people

[Anonymous No.49562192]

>>49562026
lots of money and no place to invest it

[Anonymous No.49562204]

>>49562156
>in 1315, Louis X of France abolished slavery
anything else?

[Anonymous No.49562216]

>>49562137
but then again they clearly took effort to add expensive decoration and such so maybe they wouldn't have. i guess it wasn't about cost so much as trying to create an environment of aesthetic beauty to inspire the people to greatness and such. instead of the mass psychology issues that emerge from living in ugly places with all ugly buildings

>>49562184
and what did ops building cost in 1190 when it was built adjusted for inflation in todays dollar? i have no idea

[Anonymous No.49562227]

>>49562204
And the 125 years of construction before he did that?

[Anonymous No.49562270]

>>49562227
A thing called serfdom existed ie white on white slavery.

More?

[Anonymous No.49562295]

>>49562026
95% or more white people.

[Anonymous No.49562302]

>>49562106
This right here

[Anonymous No.49562333]

>>49562026
Buildings like these are from a civilization that was VERY different from ours, and we rewrote history to say that colonists with barely any resources or man-power built them. History is a complete lie and these buildings are major anomalies.

[Anonymous No.49562339]

>>49562227
>>49562204
Can I get you two anything else? Huh? More? Hmm?
Faggot

[Anonymous No.49562340]

>>49562137
>source: my ass

Back then there was no need to build high density buildings because the population of Paris was far lower than it is today, around 500k when that building was in construction.

[Anonymous No.49562659]

>>49562026
>What are the societal frameworks necessary to build something like this?
You need soul.
No seriously Louvre was borne as a keep/fortress and then rebuilt as a palace.
So I'd say that you need something like a monarchy and a society based around it.
Not possible until the merchant class rules.
>>49562184
Soulless.
>>49562047
>slavery
We have an amerifat projection here guyz.
>>49562191
>>49562270
>muh feudalism bad
>muh serfdom
You don't know shit. Serfdom was almost always someone bound to work on a piece of land, so agriculture work which employed the majority of the population, they were not used to build castles(Louvre was a castle before being a palace). Construction of catles/palaces and masonry in general was a respected job as far as I know.
Peasants kind of owned land btw and had social status(although low) in the power hierarchy(their lord was forced to defend them), they owned the means of production more than the average wageslave ever will looooool
And it's always marxists or pseudomarxists that sperg out about feudalism.
>>49562192
It's not about the money.
>>49562333
Schizo moment.

[Anonymous No.49562725]

>>49562295
And the other 5% Jews. Better make it 98% white and 2% Jewish.

[Anonymous No.49562735]

>>49562026
everyone being white

[Anonymous No.49562776]

>>49562026
Faith hope charity

[Anonymous No.49562795]

>>49562659
You're the one who thinks wild west yokels built some of the most impressive buildings of all time, with very few resources, population, technology or reason to do so. Look at pic related. You actually think struggling colonists built that? Don't be silly, think about it logically.

By the way I got trips so I must be right.

[Anonymous No.49562801]

>>49562026
White homogeneous culture

[Anonymous No.49562872]

>>49562026
No niggers

[Anonymous No.49562983]

>>49562795
Oh no it's the world exhibition fairs actually never existed conspiracy theory once again.
Sorry but your attempt at gaslighting failed, they existed and they were beautiful.
This one is my favorite.

[Anonymous No.49563035]

Gonna post some more from my directory.

[Anonymous No.49563040]

>>49562983
>Oh no it's the world exhibition fairs actually never existed conspiracy theory once again.
What? Of course they existed. The lie is that they were just built and built out of cheap materials designed to be temporary. You can see from all the exhibition buildings that survived to this day that they are not made of temporary cheap materials, they are as real as they look.
Many of those buildings were already there, and the exhibition was used as an explanation.

[Anonymous No.49563055]

>>49563035
real buildings exist you don't have to post temporary plaster constructions

[Anonymous No.49563073]

>>49562026
No jews

[Anonymous No.49563124]

>>49563055
>he actually believes it was made out of plaster and demolished within months
One of the most ridiculous stories ever told

[Anonymous No.49563200]

You need a society that has a vertical rather than horizontal sense of advancement. Vertical being the path to transcendance and horizontal being the path to what is called social progress, equality, human rights etc. To horizontal societies (those ruled by merchants, plebs, socialists etc.) building a structure like this fundamentally irrational because it doesn’t promote industry, doesn’t put food in bellies, doesn’t “do” anything. A pair of boots is more useful than a gigantic beautiful building because they get you to the wage cage and keep your feet warm. That’s how horizontal types see this and why there can be no dialogue with them. What you want simply doesn’t compute and I mean that at a fundamental psychological level (to them) or spiritual level (to you)

[Anonymous No.49563209]

>>49562137
>if they could build something 20 times the size on the same patch of land for the same price like they can today with a modern tall building they would have.
No. Skyscrapers only exist because of consooooomer culture and office spaces. Building now are built as quick and cheap as possible now only as a means to generate profits. Aesthetics are an afterthought just meant to attract people to shop more.

[Anonymous No.49563227]

>>49563040
kek... this has gotta be one of the dumbest conspiracies ever
why do you need the fair buildings to be "real"? there are tons of great actual buildings built by westerners

[Anonymous No.49563230]

>>49563040
>>49563055
>they existed but acktually they were just fake and temporary
I mean we are getting in non-falsifiable territory here, neither I or you were there so who knows.
Personally I don't find it hard to believe they were real and built of actual materials, In an age like the late 19th century/early 20th century it was important for nations to project an image of power and people from all around the world went to visit these places so if they were to appear fake from closeup imagine the shame for the nation that built it. My conclusion is that they were real enough that if you walk inside them and touched them they at least felt like real buildings. Maybe some of them were more temporary than others.
These indoors looks pretty real to me.

[Anonymous No.49563235]

>>49562093
> he thinks Africans were the only people to ever be slaves
Bet you also think that peasants/serfs loved living in the mud and working night and day to please their lazy kings and aristocracy.

[Anonymous No.49563338]

>>49562026
Sadly, the reason we don't build stuff like this anymore isn't even because we can't. It's because we have some retarded civilization philosophy now. We think stuff like this is elitist. We think the pleeb is equal to anyone so that means there's no need to aspire to anything except the pleeb mediocrity that anyone can attain. The western world is wholly against facing up to the cause of this wrong headedness - too much democracy. Too much suffrage.

[Anonymous No.49563670]

>>49563230
They demolished most of them but the ones that survived are clearly not temporary. How can this be explained?

[Anonymous No.49563692]

>>49562047
/thread

[Anonymous No.49563996]

>>49562093
>>49563692
I know this is some sort of bait but the creation of many european works was for the sake of creating beauty, something you can't comprehend

[Anonymous No.49564020]

>>49562047
>>49563692
Except they were clearly built by MASTER craftsmen with almost unfathomable precision, not slaves which are the lowest skill workers possible.

[Anonymous No.49564186]

>>49562026
Everyone never having so much as glimpsed a subhuman non white

[Anonymous No.49564547]

>>49563040
>>49563055
>>49563230

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Fine_Arts

While the Palace had been saved from demolition, its structure was not stable. Originally intended to only stand for the duration of the Exhibition, the colonnade and rotunda were not built of durable materials, and thus framed in wood and then covered with staff, a mixture of plaster and burlap-type fiber. As a result of the construction and vandalism, by the 1950s the simulated ruin was a crumbling ruin.[10]

In 1964, the original Palace was completely demolished, with only the steel structure of the exhibit hall left standing. The buildings were then reconstructed until 1974[1] in permanent, light-weight, poured-in-place concrete, and steel I-beams were hoisted into place for the dome of the rotunda. All the decorations and sculptures were constructed anew. The only changes were the absence of the murals in the dome, two end pylons of the colonnade, and the original ornamentation of the exhibit hall.

[Anonymous No.49564608]

>>49562137
If you built a modern looking building in the 12th century, you'd probably get burned at the stake.

[Anonymous No.49564686]

The spirit of the renaissance, Europe on steroids

[Anonymous No.49564750]

It's impossible to build this type of stuff today for no other reason that it just doesn't fit the current worldview. Europe 500 years ago is a complete different civilization from the "West" today.

[Anonymous No.49564928]

Watch this frens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y6xXWq1Tik
CAREFUL: belle epoque absolute KINO you have been warned!
>>49564547
>lasted for decades
Still more durable than current year american buildings.

[Anonymous No.49564970]

>>49564750
>Europe 500 years ago is a complete different civilization from the "West" today
Oswald Spengler would disagree.

[Anonymous No.49565034]

Zero niggers and no rights to women.
Next.

[Anonymous No.49565119]

>>49562026
You can’t they stole that technology and hid it from us

[Anonymous No.49565698]

Fuck this channel has so much good stuff.
Moar belle epoque kino:
Berlin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIiK3rH2hXc
Vienna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILznJfsPGYg
Zurich https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPBH1mLpOzI
Interwar kino:
Dresden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fja_P4mlGDA
London https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXS_yHDakaA

Hell if we can't have the architecture back can we have at least the fashion?

[Anonymous No.49565961]

>>49562026
This type of building is worldwide but they stripped the decorations away. "Romanify it"