/XMR/ Monero General

[Anonymous No.49407567]

Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptos. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier of entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward will gradually approach 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://youtu.be/wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Kucoin
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
My Monero
Exodus
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.49407597]

Reporting in

tor irc- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/tzm4s
Aliases- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/bjbx3
Extras- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/daxte
Nodes- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/ke2k8
Mining- https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/c7na4

[Anonymous No.49407614]

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>49355137

[Anonymous No.49407643]

STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL
STOP MINING IN MINEXMR
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shutdown/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't; It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. When P2Pool reaches 51% of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.


YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL DIRECTLY FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET!

If you have a PC or laptop:

1. Download Monero GUI
https://i.imgur.com/ZGefPef.png

2. Pick 'Advanced' mode
https://i.imgur.com/4c0uSE4.png

3. Set up your wallet
https://i.imgur.com/4lMKh00.png

4. Keep the default Daemon settings "Start a node automatically in the background"
https://i.imgur.com/maACmmT.png

5. Once sync'd, go to Advanced->Mining and pick 'P2Pool'. If you have a laptop or low-end PC (~50 kH/s) pick "Mini" pool, else pick "Main"
https://i.imgur.com/E60JeMG.png

P2Pool-compatible remote nodes if you do not have your own local copy of the blockchain:

>p2pmd.xmrvsbeast.com - (Western Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)
>myxmr.net - (Northern Europe) (rpc-port 18081, zmq-port 18083)

OTHERWISE SWITCH TO A SMALLER POOL, IT TAKES YOU 30 SECONDS AND YOU CAN JUST SOURCE A DIFFERENT CONFIG FILE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO FUCK UP YOUR EXISTING ONE.

Many inexperienced miners think that big pools give better profits which is not the case. Your profits in the long run depend only on your hashrate, not on the pool's hashrate.

https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

[Anonymous No.49407669]

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

[Anonymous No.49407695]

>The irrational exuberance of cryptocurrency investors

Irrational exuberance is characterized as a hype-fueled mania that causes investors to massively overestimate an asset's real-world value. In this delusional state, investors tend to become so smitten with expectations of greater profits that they disregard the assets’ potentially weak fundamentals and drink the proverbial Kool-Aid.

This then leads to them recklessly and repeatedly buying into whatever asset is currently rising in the charts, thereby triggering and/or sustaining an asset bubble. This bubble is kept inflated solely by the mass delusion that the market price is justified and will only keep going up in future, effectively becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. Note that bubbles can last for years, especially in an age of easy investor on-boarding. However, when history inevitably repeats and the bubble bursts that optimism invariably turns into panic as the asset crashes back down to its real-world value.

In finance, the "greater fool theory" suggests that one can sometimes make money through the purchase of overvalued assets—items with a purchase price drastically exceeding the intrinsic value—if those assets can later be resold at an even higher price.

In this context, one "fool" might pay for an overpriced asset, hoping that he can sell it to an even "greater fool" and make a profit. This only works as long as there are enough new "greater fools" willing to pay higher and higher prices for the asset. Eventually, investors can no longer deny that the price is out of touch with reality, at which point a sell-off can cause the price to drop significantly until it is closer to its fair value, which in some cases could be zero.

This effect is often further exacerbated by herd mentality, whereby people hear stories of others who bought in early and made big profits, causing those who did not buy to feel a fear of missing out.

[Anonymous No.49407717]

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

[Anonymous No.49407841]

>>49407287
>This general and other forums based around Monero are literally for nerds who are interested in/working on the technology.
Well, duh. That's basically the point.
In general a "crypto community" makes zero sense unless it's specifically about the tech.

[Anonymous No.49407865]

Tapping in

[Anonymous No.49407892]

What's the biggest Monero Block ever mined?

[Anonymous No.49407989]

>>49407892
ask your mom

[Anonymous No.49407999]

first for AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.49408195]

[Anonymous No.49408258]

>>49407111
>All generals seem inorganic.
>>49407250
>Also literally every crypto thing is fucking inorganic lmao.

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. What means that the general is not organic? People are being paid to come here on 4chan to post positive things about Monero?

[Anonymous No.49408322]

>>49408195

[Anonymous No.49408373]

>>49408258
paid by whom? kek. Monero isn't a scam company à la Chainlink/Solana/Fantom

[Anonymous No.49408530]

>>49408322

[Anonymous No.49408538]

monerochads I have a question
if I run a node and didn't open the ports, am I helping the network?
what about p2pool mining without opening ports, is that doing anything?
let's say I download official gui, download node and start p2pool mini mining without opening ports or anything

[Anonymous No.49408562]

>>49408538
the eq of torrenting but not seeding
you're just leeching off the network, not really reprehensible but no you aren't helping the network

[Anonymous No.49408640]

>>49408530

[Anonymous No.49408677]

>>49408373
Yes, and that's why I don't understand what these people mean that the general is not organic. Maybe it means something else that I'm not aware of. I'm not necessarily well-versed in /biz/ culture.

[Anonymous No.49408708]

>>49408562
but when we are torrenting I don't need to open ports and i'm seeding just fine
how come it's not the same behavior?
so if in my lan i'm not the network administrator of the egress router doing nat, I cannot help network?

[Anonymous No.49408809]

>>49408708

[Anonymous No.49408825]

>>49408708
https://lmgtfy.app/?q=why+don%27t+torrents+need+port+forwarding

[None !fxjPc9dvjM No.49408828]

>https://www.monerochan.art/
"Monero-chan in lotus position riding a crab" was over-funded so in addition to the illustration (WIP) I commissioned this.

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.49408887]

>>49408708
NAT traversal is my spitball answer

[Anonymous No.49408892]

>>49408828
Lul, really good.

[Anonymous No.49408931]

All MoneroChads with a Twitter account vote for XMR here:

https://twitter.com/kucoincom/status/1533773140253286402?t=lTq8AHpdW6SAxrUicGarNQ&s=19

KuCoin will be making a video about the winning coin.

[Anonymous No.49409017]

>>49408828
hey moar pixel art
cool

[Anonymous No.49409020]

>>49408825
so I assume your comparison with torrent doesn't really make sense

[Anonymous No.49409038]

>>49408828

[Anonymous No.49409636]

[Anonymous No.49410116]

>>49408828
Needs more boob physics

[Anonymous No.49410141]

>>49410116
what boobs

[Anonymous No.49410374]

>>49408538
It depends.

[Anonymous No.49410383]

>>49408828
Based

[Anonymous No.49410700]

>>49408931
Voted on 3 separate accounts

[Anonymous No.49411119]

>>49409020
holy shit you're dense
torrent software has built in upnp

[Anonymous No.49411512]

>>49408708
with tracker torrents, your client will become aware of another needing to d/l only when updating with the tracker. you will only make outgoing connections.

[Anonymous No.49411693]

This is the guy ErCunt tried to get banned via muh antisemen. Is he correct?

[Anonymous No.49411700]

>>49407567
XMR FOR THE WIN

[Anonymous No.49411717]

>>49411693
>This is the guy ErCunt tried to get banned via muh antisemen. Is he correct?

No.

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.49411827]

>>49411693
>plant a trojan horse

oh no, whatever will we do? If only we could like, audit the code or something.

[Anonymous No.49411931]

>>49411693
Is this because Seraphis will enable advanced view-keys that can also scan for spent outputs? Isn't that just an addition? As in, it won't replace what we already have. What exactly is the trojan horse? Monero will keep being private by default and the additional keys will only be used by those who need such specific feature. Maybe organisations that want their donate wallet to be more transparent in an easier way.
Maybe I'm missing something?

[Anonymous No.49411949]

[Anonymous No.49412126]

>>49408195
>>49408322
>>49408530
how long until these ai's learn how to dismap human skin properly?
could they just create videos of people without even needing to deepfake an actual actor?
what are the implications of this and how do we profit!

[Anonymous No.49412788]

>>49408931

[Anonymous No.49412899]

>>49412126
>deadinternetheory.jpg
Im convinced the technology is already there and deepfakes are rampant we just don't realize it. The military is always about 2 decades ahead of what the consumers see - they are gladly letting people pump out examples of shitty ai to hide how advanced it really is

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.49413252]

>>49412899
fella in the IRC told me about this a few days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efPrtcLdcdM

[Anonymous No.49413372]

https://twitter.com/vxunderground/status/1533849009298759684?s=20&t=NhANC4mNzFZF6-KMmZXGvA

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.49413469]

>>49413372

[Anonymous No.49414558]

>>49407250
>>49407287
Feels like you general gorilla niggers attracted all the pajeets and other god damn retards trying to make this moon. Wherever I go it’s
>monero better than bitcoin xD
>we getting rich friends
>monero so good
>how we invite normies^^
>only smart guys in monero
I also made the mistake of taking a look at the subreddit
>Holy fuck

[Anonymous No.49414772]

Whoever coded XMR GUI blockchain syncing should fucking die.
Last year my blockchain got corrupted as a result of a power outage. So I synced it again with a "safe flag", just like Selsta said here https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/3845.. It took me another week but who fucking cares.
And today it got corrupted again! Not because of bsod or smth, but because I clicked "stop mining" and then 5 mins later I clicked "start mining". And this "safely synced blockchain" died without a fucking reason. And my HDD is in excellent condition.
So yeah, fuck hosting your own node, fuck GUI p2pool mining, not doing that shit again until it stops being coded by a literal niggers.

[Anonymous No.49414801]

>>49414772
Have you tried salvaging it?
Mining shouldn't affect your node in any way.

[Anonymous No.49414947]

>>49414801
Yes, doesn't help. Cmd farts for 2 seconds and then nothing happens.

[Anonymous No.49415057]

>>49412899
>>deadinternetheory.jpg
Anon, deadinternettheory is a langley project. The internet will not be ded until pandemic two when the world will be 'chunked'. Only then there will be a gazzilion bots for each real user.
4Chan is unironically training ground for the AI.
In very near future, almost all edibles will be synthesised from zoey. That is why that particular word is b& on this board.
You are a monerochad, so it should not be difficult for you to train your nose to smell langley farts.

[Anonymous No.49415076]

>>49414947
I'm not a windowsfag so I'm not sure what could have happened. I run my daemon with administrative privileges. Do you get the same result if you're running the command on, let's say, PowerShell with administrative privileges?
And if you just try to run the daemon, what error do you get? Or it just closes itself a second later like in the screenshot? Can you try running it with --log-level=4?

[Anonymous No.49415096]

>>49412126
They specifically said they gimped the face creating abilities

[Anonymous No.49415115]

Possibly a dumb/obvious question but why is it that monero is harder to buy than bitcoin? Websites like changelly allow you to buy BTC with a credit card but I've found XMR to be a bit more difficult. I've been buying btc off coinbase and exchanging through localmonero and monero.com and noticed that buying XMR on monero.com with USD also doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.49415213]

>>49415115
This has been written by Kraken's CEO on Monero subreddit. It should explain why there are fewer options to buy monero than a surveillance coin like bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.49415307]

>>49415115
>coinbase
I have been getting a cheap coin like lumens, sending to my wallet, then swapping at simpleswap.io for xmr. In the future I will get a stablecoin then do the swap to keep the tax jews at bay.

[Anonymous No.49415321]

>>49415076
>Can you try running it with --log-level=4?
Damn, it shat out a lot of data but it ended with picrel. Admin privileges on cmd didn't solve it.
Idk how to run it on PowerShell.
GUI log just says: Monero 'Oxygen Orion' (v0.17.3.2-release)
Error: Couldn't connect to daemon: 127.0.0.1:18081

[Anonymous No.49415409]

>>49414772
>.exe

[Anonymous No.49415461]

>>49415321
>Failed to bind IPv4
>Failed to initialize p2p server
I believe nothing is wrong with your blockchain. Are you sure there isn't a monero daemon running already? Maybe check the task manager. You can always try restarting your computer.

[Anonymous No.49415504]

>>49415096
>They
who

[Anonymous No.49415734]

>>49415461
>You can always try restarting your computer.
I can't believe I forgot to do this and you know what? This fucking worked.
I had no daemon running before I restarted so idk what even cause the sync errors.
Thank you, I almost pulled a trigger on mdb files.

[Anonymous No.49415760]

Anon, I.

[Anonymous No.49415786]

>>49415760

[Anonymous No.49415862]

>>49415734
The error your daemon was outputting usually means that there's another daemon running already. Anyway I'm glad it got fixed.

[Anonymous No.49416205]

>>49415115
Big exchanges don't like selling assets they can't track, for obvious reasons.

[Anonymous No.49416298]

Anyone know where to find darknet market links this day and age?

[Anonymous No.49416322]

>>49407841
I think the point is more that it doesn't really make sense to talk about "organic" crypto communities, as they're hardly a new technology now which means that your two options are weird ponzi cult or tech support forum.

[Anonymous No.49416321]

>>49416298
dark dot fail

[Anonymous No.49416411]

>>49416321
ty bossman

[Anonymous No.49416429]

>>49407567
where can I buy voip with monero help me pls

[Anonymous No.49416909]

>>49415504
the creators of dall e mini, the program that makes those images

[Anonymous No.49416967]

What is the price target for XMR for this bear market?

[Anonymous No.49417075]

>>49416967
newfags gonna newfag

[Anonymous No.49417518]

>>49416967
don't care.

[Anonymous No.49417532]

>>49416967
Monero isn't about the (amount of) money, it's about sending a message.
- Jokar

[Anonymous No.49417643]

>>49416967
Hopefully 0 :^^^^^^^^^^^^)

[Anonymous No.49417688]

[Anonymous No.49418221]

>>49417688
how do you avoid "too much traffic" pop up?

[Anonymous No.49418306]

so how can they destroy monero?
they will try to take over the dev team, right?

[Anonymous No.49418390]

>>49416967
No one knows. $120 could of been the cycle bottom; whales are accumulating BTC quite aggressively at these prices.

[Anonymous No.49418446]

>>49416967
>>49417532

[Anonymous No.49418485]

>>49418306
it doesn't matter since a pure blooded anon can just fork it

[Anonymous No.49418557]

>>49418306
Monero's main developer is anonymous, many others are too. Half the core team (not to be confused with developers) is anonymous as well.
The minute the developers or core team go rogue, against the project's ethos, we will take over the project and fork it. It will be called Monero, and whatever remained from the previous team will fall into obscurity with no support from the real community, the same way it happened to thankful_for_today.
I think they can try to destroy Monero by overtaking the network and mining exclusively empty blocks. But even so there are alternatives to keep the project alive, like changing the mining algorithm to something else, or even merge mine with some other currency like bitcoin (assuming bitcoin miners would like to get monero's reward as well).
But to really destroy it, it would take them finding a catastrophic bug and publicly exploiting it, shattering the confidence of the project in an irreversible way.

The dream would not be over, though. Someone would patch the bug and restart the blockchain from scratch if necessary.
We will have private money and we will be happy.

[Anonymous No.49418830]

>>49418557
>We will have private money and we will be happy.

[Anonymous No.49418857]

>>49418485
>monero fluffypony's vision

[Anonymous No.49420227]

bamp

[Anonymous No.49420426]

>>49420227
Cute monero-chan

[Anonymous No.49420698]

>>49408530
>>49409636
>>49415096
Whats up with the machine learning here?

[Anonymous No.49421035]

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.49422059]

>>49418306

They can try.

[Anonymous No.49422243]

>>49416967
Around $80, assuming no (more) serious exploits found.

[Anonymous No.49422280]

>>49422243
>assuming no (more) serious exploits found
Name serious exploits found.
I need to freshen up on my FUD game.

[Anonymous No.49422439]

>>49422280
Recently? There was a bug in the decoy selection algo a few months back that made the true spend (the stealth address, not the actual wallet address) very very obvious if you spent coins you had just received within (I think) 20 blocks or so.

Really a nothingburger for most people but if you want to fud, this would likely terrify noobs.

[Anonymous No.49422547]

>>49408530
I kekked

[Anonymous No.49422738]

Looks like Alphabay 2.0 is already the number one darknet market again, and they're Monero-only.

Tried posting archive link to Wired article but it thinks my post is spam.

[Anonymous No.49424094]

[Anonymous No.49424394]

So guys.. how important is it to use TOR/i2p with your node? I’ve been trying to figure this shit out for over a week. I have tor on my computer, i2p, then I got a “non gui” version of i2p called i2p-zero. The instructions on the monero website don’t seem to work for jack shit. When I run the i2p-zero it just freezes at “i2p tunnels are ready” and when I type the next command in the instructions I read on monero website, nothing happens. I tried booting up monerod by going
>./monerod —tx-proxy “tx-proxy=tor, 127.0.0.1:9050,16”

All it does is start to boot then says “I deinitializing core… I Stopping cryptonote protocol… I cryptonote protocol stopped successfully” then in deep red letters says: E Exception in main! Failed to initialize p2p server. It all boots up and runs perfect when I just type ./monerod with terminal opened from directory. Seems hopeless now. I’m lost using this whole Ubuntu shit. I got a node. That’s secure enough right? I’d prefer to be fucking bulletproof but it just won’t work.

[Anonymous No.49424440]

>>49424094
imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.49424515]

>>49414772
>Windows
immediate 50% speed penalty.
>HDD
bro

[Anonymous No.49424708]

>>49418557
That was very nice to read anon. Thank you. I just want to buy organic food, organic butter and lard, water without flouride or better a small place to tend to cows withot UN levying carbon credits on me.
All the while learning music, painting, researching physics, meditating on the nature of life and maybe have a permaculture and thus serve the creator.
Tatvamasi!

[Anonymous No.49424721]

>>49421035
>red candle
Heh

[Anonymous No.49425751]

[Anonymous No.49425793]

>>49424394
>how important is it to use TOR/i2p with your node?
It's an extra layer of security for sure, but I think monero's core stands strong on its own. When you broadcast a transaction on the network (from your own node), the source IP is obfuscated with Dandelion++, which was specifically designed to be resistant to botnets that spy on the network. You could also try connecting to a remote node through tor, but you'll basically be trusting that the remote node you chose isn't malicious (collecting data, altering the transaction, that sort of thing).

>I'm lost using this whole Ubuntu shit
Get off that shit and switch to Linux Mint or Manjaro.

[Anonymous No.49426099]

Recent Reuters piece on Binance mentions Monero.

[Anonymous No.49426294]

>>49425793
>mint
based on Ubuntu
>Manjaro
Nice meme

[Anonymous No.49426328]

>>49424394
>I’m lost using this whole Ubuntu shit.
Use CRUX or Void. Bloatware distros are no bueno

[Anonymous No.49426546]

>>49424708
>have a permaculture and thus serve the creator.
how does that work?

[Anonymous No.49426559]

>>49426099
Why don't they talk about Binance's fuckery with closing withdrawals and paper trading bullshit?

[Anonymous No.49426603]

>>49426559
That's not the narrative at all though. The article is about "privacy coin scary, used for drugs and darknets! binance allows is to be bough, and criminals are using binance for money laundering! what do you make of THAT, huh?" In other words, the mentality is "privacy coin bad, and binance bad for associating with it". Us vs. them: "them" are the money launderers and binance by association. "Us" is everyone law-abiding, who does not want easy money laundering and financing for hackers and drug dealers.

Talking about binance's paper money goes into a complete opposite narrative: that pits a "binance vs. monero" angle. Here "us" becomes the actual monero users, and "them" becomes binance with shady practices. While binance is still bad, the "us" is the complete opposite of what the article is about, thus this wouldn't fit at all. At the same time paper trading is scummy on all accounts so you can't even spin it as "based binance BTFOing darknet hackers" because it's just crooks scamming crooks at this point (from the point of view of an upstanding, law-abiding citizen who is meant to hate money laundering and stuff, at least - which is Reuters's position).

[Anonymous No.49426614]

>>49426294
>based on Ubuntu
It's based on Debian you tard.
>manjaro nice meme hahah
It has its flaws but it's a good starter distro.

[Anonymous No.49426636]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLhFoD-ZFok

[Anonymous No.49426653]

>>49420698
It's very fun imo

[Anonymous No.49426817]

>>49407567
Monero chads, dont let secret trannies win this poll.
https://twitter.com/kucoincom/status/1533773140253286402?t=_mmd8EfKfJXjngF72Jk3xQ&s=19

[Anonymous No.49426974]

>>49426614
Ok retard

[Anonymous No.49427096]

>>49424515
This is not a dedicated mining rig, I run it on my PC just to support a network while I'm not gaming
>HDD
yeah I'm not putting this shit on my Samsung NVMEs, sorry bro.

[Anonymous No.49427243]

>>49426614
yes manjaro works fine, I don't know why some retards like to complain about it
mint also works fine (and they accept donations in xmr)
they are also great for people new to linux
I guess some people just can't miss any opportunity to start a distro war

[Anonymous No.49427316]

>>49426974
>>49426614
There's a debian edition too
https://www.linuxmint.com/download_lmde.php

[Anonymous No.49427509]

>>49426099
Checked.
Look at the date, time and the last name of the first author.
XMR appears to have been insulated from rest of the market for a reason.
Pic related.

[Anonymous No.49427530]

>>49426546
like magic

[Anonymous No.49427751]

>>49424708
You might enjoy a little video game I'm playing now.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1291340/Townscaper/

>>49426546
Modern agriculture is a process-based way of growing food: you plant one crop on a lot of land all at once, then you fertilize, then you wait, then you harvest all at once, then you let the soil rest (or grow another crop; you can do this with a wheat/onions pair) and then eventually you plant again. This produces a LOT of food, but favors centralized agriculture, relies on mono-crops that are vulnerable to blight, can incentivize pesticides, irresponsible land use, heavy runoff, Monsanto fuckery, etc.

Permaculture is the idea that we manage our food farms the way nature does. Something of some sort is always growing, the plants nourish each other, plots are kept small, tons of plants grown a the same time, (some) bugs like bees are encouraged, animals are kept on the land to eat weeds and provide natural fertilizer, and there's a heavy emphasis on local tradition both in which local plants are grown (suitable to the climate and local soil) and culturally. (Each plot is small enough to be run by one farmer who is deeply tied to the land and the community on it)

Obviously, permaculture is much harder to do at scale and much more expensive to get started. But a lot of people think it's the future of agriculture because it produces healthy, varied food without raping the Earth. It's also huge among hippies, radical right wingers, anti-government paranoiacs, traditionalists, basically anyone who wants to opt out and go back to the land.

Anon says he wants to "serve the creator", which implies that he's getting into permaculture to honor God and Creation. This is actually a very common reason to do it; most religious institutions have permaculture food production of some sort (abbeys brewing beer, temples maintaining gardens, etc)

[Anonymous No.49427804]

>>49426099
>In September 2020, a North Korean hacking group known as Lazarus broke into a small Slovakian crypto exchange and stole virtual currency worth some $5.4 million. It was one of a string of cyber heists by Lazarus that Washington said were aimed at funding North Korea’s nuclear weapons programme.

>Several hours later, the hackers opened at least two dozen anonymous accounts on Binance, the world’s largest cryptocurrency exchange, enabling them to convert the stolen funds and obscure the money trail, correspondence between Slovakia’s national police and Binance reveals.

wtf Binance based?

[Anonymous No.49427816]

>>49411949
Thanks for this, I looked for that post num on desuarchive and went through the entirety of that anon's posts.
What a gold mine. Learned a ton!

[Anonymous No.49427937]

>>49427316
Might as well use Debian then

[Anonymous No.49427959]

>>49427816
I'm the anon who made those posts, this makes me feel very happy. Thanks, anon!

[Anonymous No.49428000]

>>49427959
What is this

[Anonymous No.49428130]

>>49428000
I would imagine the artist's attempt at drawing a flash drive or hardware wallet or cigarette case or something.

[Anonymous No.49428191]

>>49428130
>>49428000
old style hotel key, usually replaced by cards these days but still in common use in some areas.

[Anonymous No.49428219]

>>49428191
oooooh, I thought that key on it was some sort of charm or something, OK

[Anonymous No.49428314]

>>49408828
I thought she was fucking the crab.
Now I want to watch her fuck the crab.

[Anonymous No.49428390]

>>49427751
great post, thanks

[Anonymous No.49428424]

>>49427959

[Anonymous No.49428458]

>>49407567
>Monero down slightly
>Everything else I pay attention to in crypto down way more
Ahh, yep. Just nother bear market morning. Bros is it just me or is today comfy?

[Anonymous No.49428498]

>>49426817
damn secret seems to be a proper coin, why do you dislike it?
redpill me on scrt, sisters

[Anonymous No.49428557]

>>49427804
Yes binance is indeed based for a CEX

[Anonymous No.49428785]

>>49427804
>wtf Binance based?
Anon. Lazarus (or human version of phoenix) is a dogwhistle that means CIA.
North Korea (or shoudl I say Correa) is a dogwhistle for shadow government.
North Korea is indeed mining Monero and has a good relationship with Binance.

[Anonymous No.49428814]

>>49428785

HAIL BASED DEAR LEADER

[Anonymous No.49429262]

>>49428191
>>49428000
>>49427959
>*lewdness intensifies*

[Anonymous No.49429927]

>>49426328
stop telling noobs to use tranny distros which will further alienate them from Linux

Void's tor package doesn't even come with a torrc, you literally just get the binary it's fucking awful.

[Anonymous No.49429991]

>>49429927
>tranny distros
That's why I mentioned CRUX first.

[Anonymous No.49429998]

>>49424394
https://monerodocs.org/running-node/open-node-tor-onion/

[Anonymous No.49430060]

>>49429998
oh yeah, for this guide, if you already have a full blockchain downloaded, you don't need to do the /srv/monero step, just skip that and replace it with the path to your blockchain in the config file.

[Anonymous No.49430089]

>>49411949
so scrt is trash right?
>>49427816
link?

[Anonymous No.49430271]

>>49424394
tor is a honeypot, avoid it. Literally half of all exit nodes are U.S. govt operated (they unmask your traffic). i2p is better but if you're just transacting probably not necessary unless you're a big name player. If you're mining you may want to setup additional precautions with the mining pool or use p2pool.

[Anonymous No.49430435]

>>49430271
>nah bro don't even bother using anonymity networks, the feds may be able to de-anonymize you, you'd better just broadcast shit from your home IP. In fact, don't even use NAT.

ok.

[Anonymous No.49430478]

>>49430271
>tor is a honeypot, avoid it. Literally half of all exit nodes are U.S. govt operated (they unmask your traffic).
Retard.
First of all, exit nodes can't trace the circuit. Yes, it makes things like traffic analysis much easier, but you aren't magically deanonymised when your traffic goes through a US govt exit node. By definition, the US govt knows everything directly after any exit node, so you can just configure your circuits to be one node longer and regain the same security.

Secondly, if you run your node over tor then you literally do not use exit nodes, as other nodes and wallets can and do connect directly over tor. In that sense it's almost identical to i2p in this respect, except tor has a lot more honest nodes running so the anonymity set is much bigger. The exit to clearnet is one of tor's biggest weaknesses, if you treat it as a darknet rather than as a fancy proxy then it becomes much safer.

Of course Tor DOES have weaknesses. A mixnet would be much much better than an onion network, but literally the only one I know of that's reality and not just an academic paper is Nym, and that's cryptoshit for whatever fucking reason. For now we're stuck with onion networks. It's important to be aware of the limitations and weaknesses of Tor - mostly as they relate to traffic analysis. But it's not just magically compromised, and when used as a darknet is generally superior even to i2p.

[Anonymous No.49430548]

>>49430271
>Half TOR exit nodes are US
>Unmasking using only the exit nodes

Stfu boomer, precisely the reason TOR has 3 layers, even if they control the exit one, they can't see who sent the data. If you're communicating with Onion websites, they can't even read what you sent/received to/from the website. They would need to control 2 or 3 OR to locate you.

[Anonymous No.49430592]

>>49430478
This, sorry for duplication

[Anonymous No.49430797]

> How The Banks Bought Bitcoin | Lightning Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g

[Anonymous No.49431377]

979 blocks remaining

[Anonymous No.49431581]

Guys I have great crypto news!
Bitcoin transactions under $200 will be tax free!
How hecking cool is that?

[Anonymous No.49431742]

>>49426603
>>49426099
>The U.S. DoD sait it considered the use of anonymity enhanced cryptocurrencies like Monero a high-risk activity that is indicative of possible criminal conduct.
Daily reminder that the United States DoD considers you a "possible" criminal only because you want the peace of mind that comes with holding and using a digital currency that can't be spied. It's not indicative that you want freedom. It's not indicative that you want to protect your wealth from prying eyes. It's not indicative that you want to use a cheap, fast and secure currency to send money abroad.
It's indicative of possible criminal conduct.
These people don't like you.

>>49429927
Agreed with this sentiment. I only recommend (K)(X)Ubuntu or Debian to newcomers. If their needs are not met by these or if they want to learn more and do some distro hopping they can go on their own adventure.

[Anonymous No.49431790]

>>49431581
>Bitcoin transactions under $200 will be tax free!
fr fr?
I understand $ btw what is a tax?

[Anonymous No.49431796]

>>49407567
>be me
>under 30
>no debt
>steadily ACOOOOOOOMULATING
bros i feel like I already won
I have transcended
I dca no matter what until 10k USD per coin.
fuck you market makers. I am in good health and patient.
>how many coins will you give me this year?

[Anonymous No.49431862]

>>49431796
based. tell you are pureblood too so I can reply YGMI..

Please tell me u did not take the jab.

[Anonymous No.49431927]

>>49431862
of course I didn't take the jab.
anyone with 2 brain cells could assess the risk:reward (especially someone under 30) and understand it simply was not in your favor.
>trust literal criminal enterprises who view us as cattle and trust the completely regulatory-captured agencies to defend us (Fuck You Scott Gottlieb) - OR simply staying inside for a year and focusing on skills and personal health
people have no idea how dark our world really is.
if you are reading this, i wish you good health.

[Anonymous No.49432020]

>>49431927
good man
>>49430089
bump

[Anonymous No.49432040]

why can't adoption grow faster, bros?

[Anonymous No.49432049]

>>49431581

[Anonymous No.49432058]

>>49432040
>why can't adoption grow faster, bros?

Because organic growth takes time.

[Anonymous No.49432101]

>>49432040
>>49432058
proportion of tx/month relative to bitcoin's tx/month has been growing exponentially for years
just be patient. enjoy your summer. fireworks will start next year. maybe EOY if we're lucky.

[Anonymous No.49432221]

>>49430089
https://archived.moe/biz/thread/49130035/
Ctrl+F "AiDxLrfa"

[Anonymous No.49432251]

>>49432101
I'm fine with it being slow, it's comfy and I need to accumulate much more.

>>49431796
>>49431862
>Growing stack of XMR and shiny rocks
>unvaxxed
>prepped the basics for bad times
Enjoying the ride bros

[Anonymous No.49432369]

>>49432251
>very small amount of XMR and shines
>unvaxxed
>trying to get to a place I'm comfortable being in when things all come crashing down
I'm not in the best position, but who can be?

[Anonymous No.49433008]

>>49427096
even sata ssd should give you a significant performance boost. anyway i would not be mining with gui wallet on winows anyway. i'd use xmrig instead. used to mine myself with it on windows and worked fine.

[Anonymous No.49433361]

>>49432058
i'd give her my organic growth, if you catch my drift

[Anonymous No.49434092]

>>49432221
thanks
does someone have picrel picture saved? it's the stack layers with Menora Lisa added into it

[Anonymous No.49434173]

>>49433361
>if you catch my drift
I dont. Exblain.
JK
Is she organic tho?

[Anonymous No.49434464]

Reminder CIA is backing our coin XMR. Also CIA is most chad of government agencies so we will win, think of competition.
>BTC
NSA cucks, just a bunch of limpwrist nerds that got bullied out of FAGMAN and think they're cool doing bitch work for FAGMAN. Zero threat to CIA and monerochads. Irrelevant eggheads hiding in their cuckshed offices in DC.
>chainlink
WEF, just a bunch of old money oldfags. All bark no bite. Old eurofag money larpers like klaus. CIA topples countries and sells crack while WEF executives play dressup as darth vader to attract schizos.
>Ethereum and stables
big banks, so most likely FBI. FBI is just low tech soys anyways. Just supercops larping as batman. Too occupied with rest of chans and being bitch to bankers.

[Anonymous No.49435207]

>>49426099
so is binance bending the knee soon?

[Anonymous No.49435338]

>>49435207
Likely not yet. But take that as a warning shot.

[Anonymous No.49436371]

>>49414947
imagine using windows.

[Anonymous No.49437538]

/XMR/'s must reads?

[Anonymous No.49438018]

hey anons, my biggest FUD is the possible paper Monero on CEX, but what percent do you think they are artificial increasing the supply? What percent of Monero would be on CEX? Little less % compared to Bitcoin on CEX?

[Anonymous No.49438082]

[Anonymous No.49438295]

>>49438082
new monerochan UwU

[Anonymous No.49438348]

>>49438018
>what percent do you think they are artificial increasing the supply?
Gaussfag in me says 1:6

[Anonymous No.49438447]

>>49438018
A guy collected all Monero available from several CEXs and posted a thread indicating how much did they actually have. It was a few weeks ago I think, maybe search the archives for "XMR".

[Anonymous No.49438566]

>>49437538
All Tomorrows

[Anonymous No.49438573]

>>49438082
My wife is very cute

[Anonymous No.49438623]

>>49424394
>127.0.0.1:9050,16

What's with the ',16' at the end? I don't remember seeing that in the instructions. In either case make sure the commands are copied exactly; things break if you don't add a space or put in an extra space

Also, i highly recommend you switch to debian lxde if you're generally bad with linux/computers. It's about as close as you'll ever get to oldWindows, and there's a reason raspbian (the OS designed to run on raspberry pi boards, which is literally marketed to Africaniggers) is based on it.

[Anonymous No.49438846]

>>49438082
Cute

[Anonymous No.49439072]

>>49438623
If he is doing that he's doing it wrong"

>>49424394
Anon the address for tor is exactly 127.0.0.1:9050 Why are you adding that ,16 at the end?

[Anonymous No.49439355]

>>49437538
human action

[Anonymous No.49440697]

[None !hPFV6Brm5A No.49440737]

hey guys, i finally found a block. mined on p2pool but that's just solo-mining with extra steps :)

[Anonymous No.49441235]

Bros, What is Retardo Spamny up to these days?

[Anonymous No.49441313]

>>49440737
Based and p2pilled

[Anonymous No.49441611]

>>49440737
What CPU are you using?

[Anonymous No.49441664]

>>49428314
that private view key is going to cost you, anon

[Anonymous No.49442488]

[Anonymous No.49443111]

All I know about Monero is that Luke Smith is shilling it, and he was right about Chainlink. I'm on board. What's the process for localmonero?

[Anonymous No.49443296]

>>49443111
>and he was right about Chainlink.
when did he talk about chainlink?

[Anonymous No.49443990]

>>49438018
>my biggest FUD is the possible paper Monero on CEX,
Why? That's extremely bullish imho
Fuck exchanges

[Anonymous No.49444010]

>>49443111
>I know nothing but my favourite e-celeb said to buy it so I will ape in!
Fuck off moonboy

[Anonymous No.49444283]

>>49444010
based

[Anonymous No.49444369]

>>49444010
based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.49444869]

>>49444010
Luke's not an eceleb, he's a schizo autist that is, quite frankly, often incorrect opinions about technology. But he was right for riding chainlink up from nothing and dumping his bags at ATH because it has never recovered and has done comparatively worse compared to everything else.

I've been eying monero before Luke ever started shilling for it anyway. I was going to buy when it was last in the $80-90 range but had no funds. Was going to get some now because mullvad started accepting XMR,
>>49444010
>moonboy
Oh please. Some of you cunts are just so eager to jump on people and deem them to be outsiders it's pathetic.

[Anonymous No.49445113]

>>49444010
>>49444869
you're all ugly faggots anyway

[Anonymous No.49445321]

>Monero is essentially a private, decentralized 1970s Swiss bank account denominated in a currency that mirrors the economic properties of gold, and yet can be used to permissionlessly and anonymously send that contained value anywhere in the world in 20 minutes for a penny. It cannot be taxed or inflated, and is a perfect candidate for a currency of a non-usurious economy.
From a pol thread (with a few things I added myself).

[Anonymous No.49445402]

>>49443990
>That's extremely bullish
It's bullish because it shows us that Monero really fucking works for hiding assets, but it's an annoying phenomenon nonetheless. A run on Monero would cause a spike in the street price but ultimately it leads to more and more CEXs claiming wallet maintenance shenanigans as soon shit starts to hit the fan. I think we've seen this at least twice over the past few years.
>Suspicious amount of short positions open up against Monero across a bunch of different exchanges
>Usual suspects put Monero withdrawals on "maintenance" and fucking blame Monero "network instability" or some fabricated bullshit
>BONUS: Media outlet owned by an exchange writes a regulatory FUD article, suggests exchanges may be coming under pressure to delist Monero
>Price has stabilized by this point, exchanges buy up Monero they were short on and cover their asses
Rinse, repeat. Nobody knows how long they can keep this game up but it stands to reason that most exchanges are using Monero to gamble with their users money across other exchanges.
>>49445321
Based

[Anonymous No.49446045]

Sup /xmr/, I was involved with some XMR-related activities back then in 2017 and was out of crypto since that time. Can you please redpill me on the current state of other privacy coins? Especially interested in how is it going for Zcash and what the fuck is ARRR.

[Anonymous No.49446069]

>>49443111
Create an account on LocalMonero, find a trader that sells using the payment method of your choice, initiate the trade, and that's it. LocalMonero acts as the escrow in case something goes wrong but I think it rarely does if you choose a seller with good reputation. If there are no orders available that suits your needs you can always create one and you pay a 1% fee to LocalMonero in this case once the order is completed. Pretty straightforward.

[Anonymous No.49446118]

>>49446045
>Can you please redpill me on the current state of other privacy coins?
More and more irrelevant by the day.

[Anonymous No.49446153]

>>49446045
Monero-chan is still the one and only privacyfu who won't betray you. Zcash is a bunch of salty cuckolds who openly admit they have an LEO backdoor, and piratechain is a dead meme. Monero has a bunch of exciting stuff including atomic swaps coming soon.

[Anonymous No.49446195]

>>49446153
Wasn't the bitcoin-monero atomic swap functionality supposed to be ready by december of last year?
What the hell is taking so long?

[Anonymous No.49446202]

>>49446045
>Can you please redpill me on the current state of other privacy coins? Especially interested in how is it going for Zcash and what the fuck is ARRR.

Read the Info-Dump.

>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill

[Anonymous No.49446258]

>>49407567
>POV: You hold Monero in your own private wallet
Monero: if it's good enough for Anglin it's good enough for you

[Anonymous No.49446320]

>>49446195
It's my understanding that the protocol works already, there's just no default implementation. XMR⟷BTC swaps have already happened on mainnet.

[Anonymous No.49446431]

>>49446118
>>49446153
>>49446202
Thanks lads. I also heard that not so fat ago mineXMR pool controlled about 45% of the hashrate, that's quite concerning, are there any solutions for the issue on the way?

[Anonymous No.49446479]

>>49446431
p2pool, basically what it says, or smaller pools, or solo mining.

[Anonymous No.49446486]

>>49446431
>>Thanks lads. I also heard that not so fat ago mineXMR pool controlled about 45% of the hashrate, that's quite concerning, are there any solutions for the issue on the way?

>>49407643

[Anonymous No.49446563]

>>49446479
>>49446479
I mean what to do with the 51% attack possibility? What if some large powerful entity tried to join the largest pool and then the pool starts to make some dirty actions? The only issue is a short-term coin printing / empty block mining with the pool soon going into oblivion subsequently?

[Anonymous No.49446799]

>>49446563
>The only issue is a short-term coin printing
Having 51% of the network does not enable you to print coins out of thin air. They could try to defraud an exchange by double spending but that would also be a one trick pony.

[Anonymous No.49447105]

>>49446069
Cool. Just looking to avoid KYC. What's the best method to store private keys these days? do you guys still recommend multiple backups on paper in a secure location? I started with bitcoin in 2012 and still don't trust any electronic device.

[Anonymous No.49447277]

>>49446563
It’s a concern for sure. It’s probably Monero’s biggest weakness. To really guarantee damage to the chain my understanding is that a bad actor would really need something like 87% of the hashrate. Implausible but not impossible for someone with deep enough pockets. There’s really no defense other than encouraging smaller pool mining and mining in general. Ultimately the project could just get forked if the attack was sustained and empty blocks kept getting mined.

[Anonymous No.49447670]

>>49446045
Railgun joined the chat

[Anonymous No.49447696]

>>49447105
Paper wallet works if you really don't want to use any digital device. But in this case please consider the weaknesses of having it on paper. Here's a cautionary tale: https://reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/7lb7rm/be_your_own_bank_a_cautionary_tale/
If you go the paper wallet route, maybe extend the seed with your own custom words / passphrase. This way even if someone has access to the words the wallet restored won't have anything. But make sure you will remember the custom words the day you need to restore the wallet.

[Anonymous No.49447712]

>>49447696
>Here's a cautionary tale

[Anonymous No.49447832]

>>49447712

>tl;dr: don’t be a bigmouth retard and maintain proper opsec

[Anonymous No.49447868]

>>49446045
>Can you please redpill me on the current state of other privacy coins
Current states of PriFi projects. Monero remains the standard anyway

[Anonymous No.49448037]

>>49447712
Yep. Literally not a storing issue, more of a opsec issue. What a dumbass

[Anonymous No.49448086]

>>49445321
>non-usurious economy.
Curb your antisemetism

[Anonymous No.49448740]

>>49447712
I don't get it.
Why put your seed in a safe?
Why not put it in some random book, or floor tile or something?
If I have 7k xmr I'm splitting it across multiple wallets and their seed over multiple random locations that only I know about, not in a safe.
Every schmuck is going to steal a safe.

[Anonymous No.49448857]

I ALMOST HAVE .3 MONERO

[Anonymous No.49448868]

>>49448857
I almost have 1.000000 monero.

[Anonymous No.49449072]

>>49448857
>>49448868
> They disclosed
NGMI

[Anonymous No.49449260]

[Anonymous No.49449323]

>>49449072
IN MINECRAFT

[Anonymous No.49450886]

>>49447712
>mining minero on a 20 GPU rig
is this bait? this sounds like a dumb boomer who couldn't tell the difference between eth and xmr

[Anonymous No.49450949]

>>49450886
>is this bait?
It appears to be one of the many psyop thread that nudges plebs to keep coins on exchange instead of being their own bank.
The clown world eats the weak in mind, spirit and body.
Ability to smell a balloon is useful in all walks.

[Anonymous No.49451020]

>>49446563
>I mean what to do with the 51% attack possibility?
Stop using a permissionless blockchain, since this is an inherent property. I don't get why "muh 51% attack" gets mentioned so often for monero - you can literally do the same thing for Bitcoin.
Sure Bitcoin has insane hashrate so it would be very very expensive, Monero has much less, but RandomX also drives up the cost A LOT - you can't just buy a bunch of asics and set up a warehouse in china, you have to set up a huge general-purpose computing cluster.
Consider this for example: https://www.crypto51.app/
Basically anything except Bitcoin and Ethereum can be realistically attacked. For a state-level opponent, even BTC and ETH are not out of reach currently.

[Anonymous No.49451068]

Burgers are still sleeping. Monero will hit $195-$200 today when they start waking up.

[Anonymous No.49451084]

>>49445321
pol thread link?

[Anonymous No.49451101]

>>49450886
>>49450949
>2016
iirc Cryptonight was gpu mineable back then

[Anonymous No.49451134]

>>49451101
>iirc Cryptonight was gpu mineable back then
Well then my /pol/senses misfired.
Thanks for keeping me straight.

[Anonymous No.49451154]

420 Blocks to go!

[Anonymous No.49451203]

>>49451154
To what

[Anonymous No.49451229]

>>49451203
The pump.

[Anonymous No.49451532]

>>49451203
>He doesnt know

[Anonymous No.49451747]

>>49451084
>>>/pol/381414085

[Anonymous No.49451859]

>>49438082

[Anonymous No.49451958]

>>49451229
why would it pump once tail emission hits?
>>49451747
thanks. cool car x)
>>49451859
based gman poster
we go way back

[Anonymous No.49452658]

Would any of you be interested in a CTF where the root flag is a Monero private key to a wallet with a modest unknown amount of Monero? I have been thinking of setting one up for a while now. I think it would be fun.

[Anonymous No.49453504]

What's the point of owning XMR if you use Windows as default OS?

[Anonymous No.49453559]

>>49453504
AFAIK, microsoft doesn't literally just collect continuous dumps of your memory at all times. Invasive as it is, you'd need to become a target to really get tracked, and I've never heard of a court case where microsoft directly spied on what someone was doing. Even in cases like convicted pedos or drug dealers, it starts with shit opsec, leads to equipment confiscation, and then that provides the evidence - so if they're not bonking CP dealers with it, they're not gonna start going after tax evasion.
What you MIGHT leak is that you're running monerod. Which rather means that running monero through tor is less useful on windows. Still not useless, though, as Microsoft/USGovt having that info is different from anyone looking at your network traffic having that info.

[Anonymous No.49453837]

>>49453504
hardest redpill to swallow for you fa/g/gots is that windows is far better than gnu troonix

[Anonymous No.49454071]

>>49453559
>>49453837

It's the same crap as leaving your coins in custody at a centralized exchange.

It's fine to have custody of your XMRs but it's fine to relegate your data to Google, Microsoft, etc. You guys are a bunch of hypocrites.

[Anonymous No.49454465]

>>49454071
Completely false equivalence. Coins on an exchange are literally 100% under the control of the exchange, and we have all but proof positive that there's a good chance you might be holding paper XMR.
Coins on a windows machine are not inherently vulnerable. It MAY be theoretically possible for Microsoft to somehow obtain your private keys, however there is no precedent for that which I'm aware of (unlike lots of precedent of exchanges fucking over users' funds), and it's far less trivial than an exchange just, like, spending your coins in the wrong way. It would have to be a targeted attack by Microsoft.

I don't use windows by the way. However, saying there's no reason to use XMR if you use windows is the same kind of retardation as the people who go "oh you've owned a mobile phone at some point in the past 10 years? lmao just install your adblocker and make a facebook account already". Privacy isn't black and white, and you can reduce the amount of data you make available and the amount of people you make that data available to and it's good to do so even if you aren't able to just instantly make none of your data available to anyone.

[Anonymous No.49454470]

>>49454071
microsoft doesn't give a fuck about my monero GUI exe

[Anonymous No.49454981]

>>49437538
>/XMR/'s must reads?
- Industrial Society and its future
- 1984
- Animal Farm
- this: >>49439355
- Anatomy of the state
- https://github.com/greyscalepress/manifestos/blob/master/content/manifestos/1996-02-indep-cyberspace.md

[Anonymous No.49455083]

>>49441235
NFTs and butt sex

[Anonymous No.49455200]

>>49453504
>What's the point of owning XMR if you use Windows as default OS?
>>49454071
>It's the same crap as leaving your coins in custody at a centralized exchange.
>
>It's fine to have custody of your XMRs but it's fine to relegate your data to Google, Microsoft, etc. You guys are a bunch of hypocrites.
It's Windows not ChinaOS

[Anonymous No.49456245]

>>49454071
I've never heard of anyone losing their Monero because they used Windows. Storing it on an exchange? Yeah, not the same thing pal.

[Anonymous No.49456579]

monthly i'm getting an undisclosed amount of 0.0X p2pooling
when rich?

[Anonymous No.49456626]

>>49454470
Yet. In any case, how would you know if it's not open source?
>>49455200
>It's Windows not ChinaOS
Dumb take, where do you think they're aiming?
>>49454465
> Privacy isn't black and white
agree.
>there's no reason to use XMR if you use windows
I'm just trying to point out the level of hypocrisy that many Monero users have in criticizing people for holding their bitcoins in centralized exchanges but at the same time using centralized operating systems and services.

The ideal monero user would not use any of that crap and would run a free operating system and software to really be in line with the XMR ethos.

[Anonymous No.49456718]

>>49456626
>using centralized operating systems and services.
What? This is free vs. non-free, not centralized vs. decentralized.
You can run an airgapped Windows machine if you want. And as mentioned multiple times, it's in no way comparable to holding XMR on exchanges.

[Anonymous No.49456789]

>>49456718
free as in freedom

[Anonymous No.49456848]

>>49454465
Windows has been known to scan your system and report details back to Microsoft. Hope your key wasn't in memory at the time.

[Anonymous No.49456887]

>>49456789
McAfee considered gmail the best email provider.

[Anonymous No.49456906]

>>49455083
>hoverhands
>m'lady

[Anonymous No.49456909]

>>49456887
cry

[Anonymous No.49456966]

>>49456789
Yes, exactly. Which has nothing to do with decentralization.

>>49456848
That's new to me, but also unlike exchanges, there are still no documented cases of Microsoft stealing crypto (or money in general).

[Anonymous No.49457117]

>>49456848
Just use hw wallet and your keys won't touch your os

[Anonymous No.49457159]

>>49457117
and who owns the software on your hardware wallet?

[Anonymous No.49457225]

>>49456718
>it's in no way comparable

>You give your money to someone else to watch over
>You give your data to someone else to watch over

You're either retarded not to see it or another hypocrite.

[Anonymous No.49458348]

>>49457225
Everyone sees your point, Richard Stallman. We’re just saying there are degrees of trust when it comes to protecting your keys and using Windows is not equivalent to having your coins on an exchange. Again, I’ve never even heard of anyone claiming they lost their Monero specifically because they were using Windows. That doesn’t mean using Linux isn’t a better practice, it’s just that we’re starting to delve into some real schizo hours when people start worrying about things like this.

[Anonymous No.49458812]

>>49452658
I personally haven't done much CTFs but it would definitely be fun.

[Anonymous No.49458978]

tail emission today?

[Anonymous No.49459007]

>>49457225
>You give your money to someone else to watch over
>You give your data to someone else to watch over
Exactly.
One literally has your money and can do whatever they want with it. If they're nice, they'll send it to you when you click the "please send it to me" button. If they're not nice, they'll just send it to themselves at any point in time. Then they can say "whoops!", or they can just disappear and avoid all liability.
The other has your data. Using that data, they could obtain your money. That requires analysing your data to find that you have that money, which requires building a specialised tool to do so and obtain control of your money. THEN they can steal your money.

One has a precedent of doing exactly that - losing fund on exchanges is absolutely not uncommon. The other has literally never happened - there hasn't been a single case of crypto theft due to Microsoft, Apple or Google obtaining your private keys.
One operates directly on money and makes profit from that. The other operates directly on data and really, really wants people to give them their data. If normies suddenly got it into their heads that Google or Microsoft can read all their passwords and will "hack" them, it would literally end their business overnight. The trust they build - "yes goy, let us read everything on your computer, nothing to hide nothing to fear goy" - is absolutely fundamental to their operation, and that means not doing really stupid shit like stealing people's secrets, whether it be a bank account logic or a crypto private key.

You're acting as if I'm saying using Windows is safe, when I'm absolutely fucking not, you're just too dense to comprehend things being true on a sliding scale rather than a boolean "good" vs "bad" assessment.

[Anonymous No.49459066]

is it retarded to mine monero without making any profits? i just love acoomulating xmr

[Anonymous No.49459157]

I find it strange that a monero advocate uses Windows as their primary operating system. Of course that doesn't mean your keys will be instantly stolen and sent to Microsoft and the CIA the moment you open the GUI on your Windows machine, but you need to be aware and have conscience that you are putting the key that gives access to your wealth into an operating system that you don't know how it works. And even if historically you have no reason to believe that Microsoft will deliberately scan your information and send it to their servers, all that needs to happen for that to stop being true is one malicious auto-update from either Microsoft or NSA or the CIA or whatever.
I personally wouldn't feel comfortable having Windows as my main OS and the one that I use to make custody of my wealth, but I usually imagine people understand the risks and do whatever they think is best.

>>49459066
It's retarded if you have immense energy bills and is struggling financially. Otherwise you're helping the network while getting some kyc-free XMR, so it's cool.

[Anonymous No.49459398]

My portfolio currently guzzling with unique gems, I suggest you bag some. With Project Quint super staking platform, one can stake in the quintessential pools & a specific NFT will be airdropped to their wallet to redeem rewards. DYOR..

[Anonymous No.49459407]

>>49459157
This post is absolutely correct. But there are a lot of normies for whom switching to Linux would be a huge endeavour. Yes, sticking with a proprietary system is a risk, but just because they have a riskier setup doesn't mean that they shouldn't bother with Monero at all.
>I find it strange that a monero advocate uses Windows as their primary operating system.
I agree, I would hope that anyone who's seriously interested in the tech would also be savvy enough to use a free OS. But not every Monero user has to be a dedicated evangelist and a full-on privacy schizo. I see no reason to berate someone for being a normie that wants some private money, but doesn't have the time or drive to learn a completely different operating system. You're absolutely correct that it would be much better than they did, my point is that it's not an all-or-nothing situation, you can improve different aspects of your setup and benefit from each small change. Monero on Windows > no Monero on Windows.

(Then there's also people who might jump on the bandwagon just because it's cool or because they want to speculate like with any other crypto, and otherwise don't care, but that's obviously not a good thing either.)

[Anonymous No.49459976]

My fren secretly wants to buy Monero.

[Anonymous No.49460015]

>>49459407
>But there are a lot of normies for whom switching to Linux would be a huge endeavour.
I believe these comments usually come from a good place, with good intentions. For many Linux users it is difficult to understand why someone would continue on Windows. The reasoning formula is more or less this:
The overwhelming majority of computer users use it to send emails, browse social media and process documents (text, spreadsheets), tasks that are easily performed by any popular Linux operating system and require no more than 30 minutes to figure out how to. So, it is mind blowing that the user decides to use a less secure system to do those tasks when he can use a more secure and free one.
But as much as this is the majority of modern users, there are many people who use specific software that only works on Windows. Moreover, the logic above forgets to consider that most people will prefer to stay in an environment they already know and can handle, even if it is in theory less secure.
I agree however that it makes no sense to simply bully people into Linux. Even if people use Windows they should have access to tools, like Monero, that increase their overall security and freedom.

[Anonymous No.49460232]

>>49447670
>Pajeet2577 has joined the chat
good afternoon sirs

[Anonymous No.49460315]

>>49459066
I've been doing that for months.

You can mine a ton while it's unprofitable, and then already have a nice stack if a price rise happens, OR you can wait until after a potential price rise and play catch-up as everyone and their fucking mother background mines because it's profitable and requires 0 special components.

plus I'm helping the network which makes me feel good inside.

[Anonymous No.49460489]

>>49460315
>plus I'm helping the network which makes me feel good inside.
it feels good to contribute

[Anonymous No.49460893]

>>49460315
>OR you can wait until after a potential price rise and play catch-up as everyone and their fucking mother background mines because it's profitable and requires 0 special components.
Mining profit seem to me to be very supply and deman oriented, where if it ever becomes "too" profitable, there will immediately appear more miners and your rewards will fall back down to some pitiful baseline. The only people who ever get a significant profit are those who can source beastly mining rigs and have dirt-cheap running costs.

If you're banking on a price increase then just buy.

[Anonymous No.49461049]

>>49460893
Yeah I literally don't give a shit and I'm gonna keep mining at a loss.

I do still DCA, though.

[Anonymous No.49461066]

its over...

[Anonymous No.49461130]

>>49461049
I mean same (on both counts, except I don't DCA, I only buy at the top). I just don't understand when people make up weird rationalisations of why mining returns are worth it. If you wanna help the network then great, you'll just be getting easily 1000x less than you'd get if you had just bought, and this is true regardless of where the price goes in the future.

[Anonymous No.49461222]

>>49461066
Just design a government system that uses Bitcoin for all public funding and let private citizens and institutions to use Monero, wow problem solved what a fucking retard. People need to stop believing that there will only be one single digital currency in the future. I don't know why bitcoiners brainwash people into believing that (inb4 to sell their bags). It simply makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.49461230]

>>49461066
for buttcoin

[Anonymous No.49461246]

>>49461066
>the politicians need a system where they can see my transactions so they can make sure they, the politicians, can't launder money
anon you are not making any sense

[Anonymous No.49461275]

>>49461066
nice pasta

The rich and powerful will craft (as they have always done) their respective domains however they need in order to obtain financial privacy (really just privacy in general). All I'm promoting is the idea that the common man should be afforded the same privacy.

[Anonymous No.49461317]

>>49461066
I read through that thread once it was archived and holy FUCK what a faggot that guy was.
>bitcoin is good because it was designed to be able to hold governments accountable for their spending
How could anyone be this fucking naive?

[Anonymous No.49461565]

>>49461066
>It was meant to replace the legacy settlement system.
kek read the first line of the whitepaper. It was never supposed be a "settlement layer", it's just that the narrative had to change as Bitcoin is so shitty as digital cash.
And arguably the main reason for Bitcoin's creation was to prevent another 2008 by governments manipulating, distorting and inflating the free market. Monero prevents that perfectly. Bitcoin was not created because politicians launder money or because of black budgets, how would a competitor even solve these? Shady business has existed even before money did, the thing with Monero is that privacy would no longer be a privilege with the world. However, with governments and large players getting more and more involved directly or indirectly, you gotta question whether that goal of eliminating the State from the financial system will ever be achieved with Bitcoin.
Overall he is one retarded fag.

[Anonymous No.49461977]

>>49453504
I don't.

[Anonymous No.49462080]

>>49461977
Forgot to add that I use Arch btw

[Anonymous No.49462097]

I'm having tough time lads.
Tell me lies how sweet the future is going to be for xmr chads.
Is Bimbonero going to be there?

[Anonymous No.49462171]

>>49462080
based

>>49462097
you're fine, relax.

[Anonymous No.49462232]

>>49462097
>Tell me lies how sweet the future is going to be for xmr chads.
It is as sweet as we make it friend.

Monero is a dessert, our individual life's purpose is the main course.
My two centineros.

And yes, XMR might grow to great heights and you (and me) might indeed be able to afford a very high quality Bimbonero.

[Anonymous No.49462351]

>>49462097
XMR is a hedge against inflation

[Anonymous No.49462434]

Friends, what if FedRes or treasury decide to reduce the burden of US Debt by devaluing US dollar by, say, 50%. Overnight.

What would you think will happen?? in micro and macro?

[Anonymous No.49463331]

>blocks your path.

"Nothing personal, kid."

[Anonymous No.49463467]

>>49463331

lol how is that epic Halo pump doing? Oh wait........

[Anonymous No.49463540]

>>49463467

Oh its coming, pedonigger

[Anonymous No.49463900]

>>49463540
>JEETCOIN
passes howey test. hard pass.

[Anonymous No.49464058]

>>49463900

Enjoy being locked out of the global finance sector

[Anonymous No.49464163]

>>49464058

[Anonymous No.49464168]

NEW THREAD: >>49464155
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[Anonymous No.49464257]

>>49463540
Don't you z-shit bag holders ever get tierd of shitting up our threads? Go make your own general you stupid bitch.

[Anonymous No.49464470]

>>49464058
>locked out of the global finance sector
agreed. due to western powers using the financial system as a weapon, wrongthink can be a troubling experience.
Time for ZEC to shed their unregistered security sin, and become a "born again" coin. Though, BTC & XMR are still of "immaculate conception"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCnmYSIzZBc

[Anonymous No.49464693]

>>49464058
>shields up
lmao see if more than like 10% of transactions did this maybe your shitcoin would be worth considering
but with shields always 90% down, none of the tech even matters LMAO

[Anonymous No.49466345]

>>49461565
Good post that explains what actually happened in 2008. It happened because government lies about supply.
The government can fuck with the money supply because they own the printing press, so they can get away with saying 'there's plenty of liquidity for AIG to bail out a derivatives blowup no cap fr.' They can fuck with gold and silver prices because they own the futures printer too, and since no one is allowed to audit their vaults they can get away with saying 'we have 8000 tons of gold reserves and comex is flush with silver no cap fr'. These black op funds exist because no one can tell who's holding a dollar, who's holding a claim on a dollar, who holding a counterfeit dollar, who's holding a dollar that was lent into existence and not by the treasury, and who's printing their own dollars with a printing press they received as a gift; crypto's inability to be counterfeited is what stops this, not public ledgers.

[Anonymous No.49466461]

>>49407999
checked

[Anonymous No.49467222]

>>49462232
>Monero is a dessert, our individual life's purpose is the main course.
i love you so much, anon

looking forward to your next post x)