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49341458 No.49341458 [Reply] [Original]

Thoughts? This is Michael Burry's target for the S&P.

>> No.49341476

>>49341458
makes sense if you consider the last end of decade bullrun with super low rates and covid craze to correct under those 2 events in a period where covid craziness ended and interest rates are going up

>> No.49341485
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49341485

Seems about right.

>> No.49341501

>>49341458
Where did you get that? He deleted his twatter again

>> No.49341502

Probably right but not going to happen because economics and politcs are one in the same during the modern era. Crashes don't happen unless thy are planned and contained. If a natural crash were to occur, they'd print us out of it.

>> No.49341508

>>49341458
kek, this guy makes the bobos on here look bullsh
he really is an autistic retard

>> No.49341543

>>49341458
The world ends if this happens.

>> No.49341595

>>49341458
seems right. look at that shit volume lmao. price keeps setting new highs while volume keeps printing smaller candles. this market is floating on a full degeneracy

>> No.49341600

>>49341458
bottom signal

>> No.49341618

Nasdaq is almost at pre Covid levels already

>> No.49341642

>>49341458
DonnaBarbara or whatever he’s calling himself these days has about as much as ability to predict the markets as my pet frog

>> No.49341645

>>49341458
Won't happen for a few years. We will be in recession by the end of the year with another market all time high. People will be confused.

Markets don't crash when people are expecting it. They crash when the normies are busy looking the other way.

The fed will manipulate the market until people have got bored of waiting for the crash and start another bull run.

This is more pleb conditioning to buy the dip.

>> No.49341646

>>49341458
He also shorted tesla right before it did a fucking 10x. Dont listen to this autist. He was right ONCE

>> No.49341663

>>49341458
return to normal

>> No.49341686

>>49341458
Looks similar to my worst case scenario. If the Fed turns the printer back on around 3000 it won't go that low. If they don't and they keep raising interest rates then it will

>> No.49341751

>>49341458
Needs to happen. It will happen. As the Fed sucks liquidity out of the system, it becomes wholly apparent that too much money is misallocated to the megacaps, when we're in the middle of an energy and food crisis. All that money is going to drain out, and what's leftover is going to flood into commodities. Then nations are going to start chasing commodities by the boat load, causing shipping to rise.

>> No.49341802

>>49341645
Normies literally are in tears trying to fomo into buying houses right now, they have no idea there's a recession coming. You're not normal enough and you're not getting your picture perfect blowoff top to exit your bags

>> No.49341863

>>49341802
The recession will have zero effect long term on the market. They are not directly related.

I don't personally care if there is a crash, I dollar cost average. Just means I will buy cheap stock for a period.

I buy on the 1st of every month and have done for the last 24 years. I'd love to see a crash but I just don't think this is the big one.

Too many people predicting it. Market crashes don't happen in slow motion. They are like rug pulls.

>> No.49341875

>>49341458
it will go to 750

>> No.49341908

>>49341458
Can you really call going back to preclown world valuations a correction? Even back then the PE ratios were double digits.

>> No.49341914

>>49341458
how do you know his target? sauce please

>> No.49341918

>>49341875
Doubt it with all the money sloshing around. S&P is already flirting with value. People won't want to pay inflation tax for too long before they re-enter the market.

>> No.49341919

>>49341543
no, it doesnt.
your portfolio gets wrecked and we enter a recession, but the world keeps going.

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>>49341863
>I don't personally care if there is a crash, I dollar cost average. Just means I will buy cheap stock for a period.
>I buy on the 1st of every month and have done for the last 24 years. I'd love to see a crash but I just don't think this is the big one.

based and boglepilled

>> No.49341927

Glad I'm sitting on 75k cash, building up more every paycheck

>> No.49341931

>>49341918
>Doubt it with all the money sloshing
beware of the eternal boomer

>> No.49341939

>>49341863
>24 years
>still here
So you are a boomer. Shouldn't you be a multimillion now?

>> No.49341957

>>49341458
Could he throw some dates about? Does it come the bottom in 1Q of 2023? That graph is hard to read.

>> No.49341985

>>49341939
I'm 40.

I like the shit show that is /biz/

>> No.49341989

>>49341957
Do you not know how to read a graph? His prediction is literally there in the image.

>> No.49341999

>>49341939
I'm not a millionaire.

My house is paid off worth 350K
My portfolio is 400K

>> No.49342003

>>49341989
But the space between the years is so tight I can't distinguish whether I'm looking at 2023 or 2025

>> No.49342015

>>49342003
1 month chart each bar is a month.

>> No.49342032

>>49342015
Thanks fren, that makes the bottom beginning 3Q 2023

>> No.49342033

>>49341646
I remember an interview with MrWonderful (forget his real name, sharktank guy, super rich investor) he said his son told him to invest in Tesla, he told his son "screw that I wanna short that stock, it's a car company trading at ridiculous prices" then his son told him no its not a car company, its a data collection and A.I. develepment organization. To which he admits "wow I never looked at it like that, you're right son how did I miss that". Not taking Burrys side just thought that would be interesting for u anons, but also relevant because most people probably see it as a car company with degens apeing the stock like a meme coin. In which a short on that could be a good move, but Tesla is more than how it is often portrayed, even by Elon himself.

>> No.49342038

>>49341999
>400k after 24 years in the market
>thinks his advice is worth taking
big oof

>> No.49342052

>>49341931
The fed printed a dick-ton of money, that money will end up in people's pockets and a lot of it will get stored on the market.

Inflation is burning cash at 10% a year, it won't stay in bank accounts for too long.

>> No.49342086

>>49341863
>The recession will have zero effect long term on the market
*snap* another perfect addition to my /top_signals folder

>> No.49342165

>>49342038
Sorry I'm not giving advice, I'm just giving my opinion. I'd hate for for someone to act on my opinion.

As I said, I dollar cost average. I never have and never will time the market. No one can.

Watch the Peter Lynch talk on YouTube. I live by that.

I only have 400k in stock because when I started investing I focused on dividend paying stock, I was obsessed with passive income and didn't buy growth stock.

Not a bad decision in recent times, the S&P is down 20% and over the same period my portfolio is up 15% and still paying me £1500 per month passive income.

>> No.49342184

>>49342165
>No one can
>except Michael Burry

>> No.49342195

>>49341458
Nah I'm thinking we'll be crabbing around 3k through all of 2023

>> No.49342200

>>49342086
The market is a way in the future of the real economy. You can't buy stock based on what is happening on the ground.

>> No.49342210

>>49342195
*crapping

>> No.49342215

>>49342033
>data collection and A.I. develepment organization
And it failed at both of those, but it did succeed in tricking low IQ "investors"

>> No.49342248

>>49341485
that pic is brilliant

>> No.49342256

>>49342184
All Bury has done has given his opinion. Due to 2008 people are following him like he's stock market jesus.

Stop giving faith to these cunts that don't care one fuck about you.

Bury isn't working for you, he's working for his clients. Yes listen to what he says but don't treat it like gospel.

Look at what a mess all Kathy Woods evangelical followers are in right now.

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>>49341485

>> No.49342271

>>49342256
>Due to 2008 people are following him like he's stock market jesus
Well yeah, he predicted the market by weaponizing his autism

>> No.49342285

>>49341751
The real bubble is in the debt market, same conclusion though, it all goes into commodities.

>> No.49342311

>>49341645
>Won't happen for a few years. We will be in recession by the end of the year with another market all time high. People will be confused.
>Markets don't crash when people are expecting it. They crash when the normies are busy looking the other way.
>The fed will manipulate the market until people have got bored of waiting for the crash and start another bull run.
>This is more pleb conditioning to buy the dip.
reddit spacing, self contradicting
> trust me, bro

>> No.49342322

>>49342200
>You can't buy stock based on what is happening on the ground.
I can and I do. I took out my money at the top and am very comfortable waiting for new lows.
If you DCA because you don't have time to babysit investments I would respect that, but you're posting the same old cope about how trading well is impossible and because you can't do it no one can.

>> No.49342353

>>49342322
Arguing with people like that is a waste of time. You are never going to be able to convince him that it wasnt just luck and he will never change his mind even if you could prove that you have outperformed the market for 10 years straight

>> No.49342364

>>49342311
Try to be stoic Anon.

Take what I say with a pinch of salt.

In all my years monitoring the market, I've never seen this many people telling me it's about to implode and it coming true.

Keep shining shoes, show shine boy.

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>>49341458
Nothing that good would ever happen.

Source: 37 years old and bored out of my mind.

>> No.49342393

>>49341458
Completely insane.

Market rate hikes won't affect companies like FB, GOOG or sth in any way. Only affects hyper growth companies or real estate.

>> No.49342414

>>49342215
Has it? Honest question cuz I thought they were mapping out and calibrating a lot of major roadways for vehicle autonomy. However, I imagine that would be an over ambitious and near impossible endeavor to see it ever being safe enough for mass adoption

>> No.49342415

>>49342364
In 5 years of trading stocks I have gone from 15k to 900k. You will say I was gambling but I was just trading spot based on what the fed was doing at any given time, and I have been sitting in USD since december when it became obvious that the music was close to stopping. Keep DCAing and you might be able to retire at 65, midwit

>> No.49342422

>>49341863
>Market crashes don't happen in slow motion
spy paints a picture perfect replica of both 2001 and 2008
overextended markets do crash when the fed pops the bubble due to withdrawing easy monetary conditions
40 year high inflation has made the fed tighten conditions extra hard this round

face it boomer anon this market is only floating on sheer hopium and desperation
also 24 years of investing and still poor, if you aren't perma retired after 8 years here you are considered a failure and your opinion caries as much value

>> No.49342429

The S&P 500 index has rebounded strongly from the pandemic crash in the spring of 2020, rising from a low of 2,192 points to 4,089 points as of Tuesday's close. However, it could plummet by 54% to 1,862 points in the next few years, Burry tweeted on May 3.

When the S&P 500 has crashed in the past, it has traded lower several years later, Burry noted. He pointed to the index bottoming 13% lower in 2009 than it did in 2002, 17% lower in 2002 than it did during the Long-Term Capital Management fiasco in 1998, and 10% lower in 1975 than in 1970.

If the benchmark index follows that historical pattern, it could trade 15% lower than its level in the spring of 2020, Burry said.

There may be epic but short-lived rallies

>https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/big-short-investor-michael-burry-111530747.html

Burry's biggest position is a short on Apple right now. I remember an article where Burry gave out some dates as to when buying certain stocks like Apple would be good, I think it was 2023 he said that he expects big stocks like Apple to finally bottom. I can't find the article though I have tried.

>> No.49342455

>>49342322
I've seen so many people sell out of the market and then a few years later be forced to buy back in at a higher price. If it works for you great, I've just never seen it done successfully over many trades.

Don't be me wrong I have my main investment account then I have a BS trading app with £500 in that I gamble with. I'd just never do it with my future is all.

Sorry for being boring.

>> No.49342532

>>49342422
Current market is nothing like 2008 so why on earth would it follow?

>> No.49342535

>>49341645
>Says normies have been conditioned to buy the dip
>Has been conditioned to think markets do the opposite of what "everyone" expects
True wise retard

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>>49341458

>> No.49342554

>>49342033
Wow very astute I have literally never heard that argument before are you from reddit by chance?

>> No.49342568

>>49342455
are you seriously retarded anon
for over 30 years the game has been simple don't fight the fed
its easy as shit the moment they pivot you buy back in, its how you knew the 2018/2019 bottom, the coof bottom
if you stay out of the market for years you are again comparing yourself to even bigger retards, bear markets don't last very long

>>49342256
burry still has clients?
he sure as fuck isn't no bank sell side analyst spouting bullshit

>> No.49342587

>>49342322
If you're a good trader you gotta look at it as if you have a gift, like being an artist or something. 95% cannot be good traders, you need a great amount of clairvoyance and emotional control. Not too mention the large amounts of stress and chart analysis that would drive a normieto insanity. Also i bet even the best traders 20 years ago would find today's markets to be much more difficult to play given the plethora of bots and algorithms they are up against

>> No.49342616

>>49342554
This. So much this. Yes give me your fucking updoots kind nigger

>> No.49342647

>>49342535
Anon thinks after a market crash everyone is High Fiveing congratulating each other on selling at the top.

If thats not the way market crashes work. Everyone would immediately buy back in and we'd be back were we started.

'They' pull the plug not the plebs. That's why markets take a while to recover because all the plebs are fucking broke.

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>>49342532
>Current market is nothing like 2008 so why on earth would it follow?
he says with on certainty bordering confidence
well let me see fed made a giant bubble by injecting way too much liquidity to solve a previous crisis
only an order of magnitude worse then 2008
no nothing likes alike at all

this is the time to stop posting and embarrassing yourself anon
like the other anon if you dca because your cagie eats all your time and you can't follow the market that would be fair, but this coping for your poor strategies and then spouting opinion that would be contradicted with even a cursory tradingview charting is just sad

>> No.49342676

>>49342554
Astute, yea my ass toots whenever you literally literally. Come over to reddit sometime to hear more arguments from people with facts and knowledge and suicidal cope stranger

>> No.49342681

>>49341458
too soon, junior

>> No.49342697

>>49342666
You don't understand. All you're doing is comparing price. A chart only gives you one data point.

I stand by the fact the current market is nothing like 2008.

>> No.49342714

>>49342455
>I've seen so many people sell out of the market and then a few years later be forced to buy back
Of course. If no one ever sold the bottom, how would I buy it?

>> No.49342718

>>49342647
>plebs control the markets
anon its truly time to stop posting
do you have even a passing understanding of order books and how some big boy entities simply cannot offload their books without completely crashing the markets, thats why bottoms are a process
bulls on the other hand are very much correlated to cb bs's

>> No.49342721

>>49342666
You chart fags are like tea-leaf readers.

>> No.49342727

>>49342697
i love reading posts like this by midwits who think they are above average intelligence. they can’t wrap their head around price action so that means nobody can

>> No.49342791

>>49342727
Oh, did Anon put his ickle overlay on the chart and now it makes sense? Did the ickle overlay predict the future.

Fuck off you mystic.

>> No.49342813

>>49342721
on short term time frames yes, on long market cycles def not tea leaves
also as i pointed out to you 3 times now, its not just the chart its the prize action that perfectly follows the cb actions all 3 times
i am either arguing with a room temperature iq retard here or you are so caught up in your own cope you deny the reality show in front of your eyes
might i recommend reddit it will be much more to your liking there you can even collect cool upboats and rewards there to really validate your existence as a human person

>> No.49342829

>>49342727
I bet you paid for one of those scammer youtube courses that get spammed at the start of every youtube video. Hahaha

Stick to crypto you degenerate gambler.

>> No.49342847

>>49341543
This has already happend countless of times during recessions and economic downturns, look at the SPY history.

>>49341618
Thats because it was overvalued in the first place, you should only look at the DOW/SPY.

>> No.49342849

>>49342813
I'm banned from Reddit for wrong think.

>> No.49342878

>>49342791
>>49342829
Sounds like he struck a nerve, kek. 24 years in the market and you dont even have half a mill. Embarrassing

>> No.49342916

>>49341458
>the guy who closed all his short positions months before the crash said some stuff
kek

>> No.49342928
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>>49341458
Nah, full employment, lots of consumer demand for everything, no credit crisis like in 2008...

Bears are fucking retarded and always lose.

>> No.49342955

>>49342878
Well I do, but I used some to pay my house off.

He hasn't struck a nerve, I just followed his insults with my own.

Read back and you'll see he got all passive aggressive and faggy.

A bit like your passive aggressive comment about embarrassing.

>> No.49342964

Why didn’t the kikes pull the plug in the 14/15 shemitah ??

>> No.49342985

>>49342829
>that get spammed at the start of every youtube video
>spammed
>youtube video

look at this boomer and laugh
also nobody tell him
thank you for this thread and my daily dose of keks anon

>> No.49342995

>>49342955
I’m not being passive aggressive. I’m telling you outright that your performance is embarrassing and the fact that you think your opinion is worth listening to is even more embarrassing, kek

>> No.49343109

>>49342995
How do you know its embarrassing? How do you know how much of my personal income I've dedicated to investing? Life happens as well, beyond buying stock.

I'm talking to some kiddy traders that see patterns in stock charts.

Do you always get this mad when you find an opinion that you dont agree with?

You might be right Anon but you're looking in the wrong place to confirm it.

>> No.49343385

>>49342256
>comparing burry to woods
lol. lmao even
also nice reddit spacing

>> No.49343564

>>49343109
>How do you know how much of my personal income I've dedicated to investing
now you brought it up, yes anon i do wanna know how much real cash you injected to end up with a 400k portfolio
be warned tho, your answer might incur much ridicule

>> No.49343679

>>49342928
>companies reducing staff and have stopped hiring
>revenue down in Q1 for Walmart and Target, expected to be even worse in Q2
>no sign of inflation slowing down with gas prices going up

>> No.49343690

>>49341927
Not parking it in gold, ngmi

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>>49342033
PALANTIRRR
>MUH AI
>ELON IS SUPA SMAHT
>AI IS DAH FUHTUAH MAHN

once you recognize elon as a conman, the rest of the puzzle falls into place. sell your bags and escape before it is a mandatory roping

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49343907

>>49341458
>yeah the 80% increase in monetary supply will just disappear because it will

>> No.49343941

>>49343907
>babby doesn’t understand how QT works

>> No.49344051

>>49342364
>people running towards me yelling a tsunami is coming
>Turn 360 degrees and keep walking because too many people are telling me the same thing

>> No.49344434

>>49343564
£600 every month DD. With dividends reinvested.

Quite a lot withdrawn to pay down mortgage.

>> No.49344458

>>49341458
This guy is washed up and retarded. QT has been priced in, recession will never come. SPY will go to like 3.5k in the best case scenario for him, but bottom could very well already be in. Everyone and their mom is shorting the market right now, it's going to go straight back to ATH and fuck them all over

>> No.49344462

>>49344051
Have you seen the wave or did twitter tell you it was coming?

>> No.49344483

>>49341543
>NOOOO IT CAN PUMP +700% IN A YEAR BUT IT CAN'T DUMP 60%!!!
kys hope it dumps 90%

>> No.49344496

>>49344434
You’ve invested 173k over a period of 24 years and you’re at 400k near the peak of the current equities bubble? Are you joking? That’s terrible

>> No.49344520

>>49341802
Housing has cooled down significantly

>> No.49344563

>>49343832
Got no Tesla bags lmao, I was under assumption Elon is a smart dude and Tesla is le future, idk never delved too deep Into him or paid much mind cuz I see him as the face of jeet shitcoins. Guy is definitely a meme in human form. Normies had me believing Tesla was the shit though and never seen it discussed much on biz. Feel free to spoonfeed me about whether Tesla is sussin or bussin

>> No.49344660

>>49344496
I started off as a dividend investor. I was obsessed with the thought of passive income.

I missed out on the tech growth bubble. So I think I've compounded at 8 or 9% depending on how much my house purchase stalled my compounding. Either way I really wanted my mortgage paid off.

I currently make £1500 per month in dividend income which I love. Means I have a nice cash flow including my wages to play with.

>> No.49344684

>>49344660
same, paid of my mortgage too, felt amazing since then. Stopped working because why not? Portfolio is small now though

>> No.49344695

>>49341458
chainlink would be less than $0.01 if that happened

>> No.49344739

>>49344434
well thats pretty bad anon, i could laugh at you but i am sure plenty of other anons will do that for me
well i can at least help you by pointing out the massive mistake you made
you never pay off a mortgage fully with investment gains, a mortgage is a low value secured debt, just let it roll off and let inflation eat away at it while you put your capital to more productive uses
you only ever outright buy a house if its less than 20% of your portfolio and you are scared about the future market conditions

and just so you are aware against who you are arguing with the level of certainty and arrogance you as you did
around here doing a 100x in 4 years is the baseline scenario and this place has done that now 3 cycles in a row

>> No.49344809

>>49344520
Not where I live. My wife’s friend has been desperately trying to find a house all year. Constantly getting out bid. They finally got one, for like 600k on a 500k listing. Yes, they fomod so hard they paid 100k over asking. It’s a nice house and all but holy shit, the girl is a hair dresser, not sure what her husband does but if the economy tanks they’re completely fucked

>> No.49344821

>>49344660
this is totally the wrong approach anon
lets take since the dec peak how much did your portfolio lose in valuation versus the 6x1500 bongbuck you made in dividends
also now that recession/depression is coming those dividends are going to be slashed to pieces
even if you would be heavy into oil it looks like the govs will steal your profit with windfall taxes

>> No.49344854

>>49344739
Yeah, I understand I should have let the mortgage ride but you're the one telling me we're at a market peak and it's about to cash.

I've been hearing people warn of market peaks near constantly for the last 20 years. Sometimes I've believe them so I've withdrawn profits and paid down the mortgage in lump sums.

I'm not sorry I paid off my mortgage even though in hindsight it was the wrong thing to do.

I Love having no money leave my account. I don't have to factor in mortgage payments. I'm happy with my decision.

>> No.49344872

>>49341458
too high
needs to go lower
spx will hit 1400 for sure
may even dip into triple digit territory for a day

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49344894

>>49341458
>volume has been dropping since the last crash in 2008
What do they mean by this?

>> No.49344955

>>49344821
My portfolio is up 15% since S&P500 peak. I have little in the S&P500.

Saying that I just recently bought GOOG, FB and Amazon.

I don't use my dividends as income atm. I reinvest them.

My aim is a 600-700K portfolio then retire with my side hustle as tick over cash.

>> No.49345003

>>49344854
i am telling you to cash out and have the cash in your brokerage/exchange account waiting to slurp that scrumptious dip
even if the depression turns totally apocalyptic and you are without a job for a year, for in bongland you do still get bennies right, you can always withdraw the cash from your brokerage to pay off your mortgage should the need become dire

you seem to have a very all or nothing kind of thinking process anon, i never said to yolo it all away its about proper risk management after all
also in those past 20 years, save today, only one other time did those warnings of market peaks coincide with the feds actions and last i checked the spy tanked about 60% back then

>> No.49345058

>>49344894
means price got higher. higher prices always leads to lower volume as each share requires more dollars to transact

>> No.49345066

>>49344955
>My portfolio is up 15% since S&P500 peak
you did this without swinging it?
then i am intrigued thats pretty good in this environment, care to give some details anon
and also considering you are up for the love of god sell before the sneeding anon you'll thank your past self

>> No.49345118

>>49345003
Mortgage is irrelevant, it's gone.

I have 40K cash outside my portfolio.

Think about it Anon. We may or may not get the crash you predict.

Let's say we do see a 50% market crash, I'll be on the phone to my bank first thing in the morning remortgaging my house. I'd use it like a battery of cash.

Until I see this crash I'm doing nothing apart from Drip feeding the market.

>> No.49345130

>>49341458
too much bear porn
3500 is realistic, but unlikely
material, utility and value are easily going to off set the tech and finance bear on the index

>> No.49345163

honestly look at it, i think 750 will be the very bottom for SPX with this crash...

>> No.49345167

His S&P500 target is based on an assumption of higher rates. His assumption of higher rates is based on a complete misunderstanding of macro. Interest rates are going lower, not higher, and that's why his S&P500 target is not going to happen.

>> No.49345210

>>49345130

Great take.

>> No.49345218

>>49344955
>missed out on the tech bubble
>decides to buy in literally right after the bubble bursts
Jesus christ

>> No.49345236

>>49345066
I'm heavy in Oil and Energy stocks. They've done really well in the last year.

As I said, I started out as a dividend investor, I started out buying value defensive stocks. They do really well in this environment.

I also own a lot of UK banks, not sure how they will cope in the coming years. I bought them in the wake of 2008. Terrible buy so far.

>> No.49345264

>>49345118
>I'd use it like a battery of cash
thats a very good approach anon, but be advised if your bank is a pleb bank you will get ripped off on the specifics of that deal
but certainly yes very good way too look at the situation

>> No.49345294

>>49345218
Honestly I don't see GOOG and AMZN going much lower than in recent weeks. I wanted exposer and had spare cash.

>> No.49345334

>>49341458
michael blurry is a faggot

>> No.49345335

>>49345236
anon you are so very lucky your specific portfolio has you up for the year in spite of everything happened, don't waste it
if shit goes down even defensives and energy will crash, oil is already at self burning out levels
i'll repeat my early advise of sell it while you can but i know you want listen now
just think back on this next business cycle and remember that yes indeed you can predict bad sneedings in advance its not tealeaves

>> No.49346013

>>49342928
I’m a parole agent and a lot of the shitty warehouse jobs my guys are working at are cutting hours. I think people aren’t slinging money around like they used to. People are tightening their belts and it shows with shit like furniture and other consumer products.

>> No.49346060

>>49344051
>resist the urge to panic and head down to the shoreline
>it’s just a Jewish guy running up and down the coast yelling “tsunami!” And everyone fell for it.

>> No.49346098

>>49341543
kek
check out this little hyperbolic faggot

>> No.49346114

>>49341458
>2025
not happening lmao

>> No.49346161

>>49341543
Middle class People sell their cars and boats and houses and other shit they bought on credit and weather the storm, rich people take a few less private jet trips that year, poor people continue to subsist on gibsmedats as they always have.

>> No.49346312

>>49344809
Ok. Would you say that a hairdresser paying 100k over asking is a top signal, a bottom signal, or a sign of a healthy market?

>> No.49346489

>>49342215
Failed? It's just starting.

>> No.49346555

>>49346312
I think it’s a regional thing. I live in dfw and the market is not slowing here at all. Too many people moving here. So I would say dfw is still at the top of its bubble.

>> No.49346734

>>49341458
Cash is king right now. Just sit and wait.

>> No.49346912

>>49346312
Wagies paying more than they can afford right when the fed is beginning to tighten is obviously a top signal, kek

>> No.49347105

>>49342256
Tell me this: Did Kathy Woods make a small fortune calling the 2008 financial collapse?

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>>49341863
>>49341645
disgusting spacing, never post again

>> No.49349917

>>49347681
What is it with you gaylords and spacing?

I'm dyslexic as fuck, it helps me.

Sorry for being spastic.

>> No.49350096

>>49346555
Dfw here too. I'm seeing homes on movoto and shit getting 50k haircuts. Realtor advice is to do a big price drop rather than multiple little ones because the latter reeks of desperation. So people are biting the bullet trying to get out. It's not widespread though. We are getting on the top.

>> No.49350126

>>49342270
kek

>> No.49350324

>>49342415
Anon, I've got probably ~500k in stables or cash.
When are we buying back in and in what asset?
Just wait for the fed to lower rates and pick your favorite?

>> No.49350372

>>49345058
you got that right, but in the exact opposite way

>> No.49350671

>>49350324
build a position and hedge with shorts and tight stop losses

>> No.49350733

>>49350671
A position in what? commodities?

>> No.49350749

>>49341485
That's actually really cool. What a surprising amount of creativity

>> No.49350799

>>49350733
>don't wait for the fed to lower rates and pick your favorite?

>> No.49350853

>>49341645
Hello Gregory

>> No.49350953

>>49341751
>As the Fed sucks liquidity out of the system
Source on that claim?
If you think this is what reducing their balance sheet means, then you're mistaken.

>> No.49351143

>>49342392
Your pic is what decades of "teenage pornography" does to the mind.
Also exactly as intended.

>> No.49351283

>>49342718
>big boy entities simply cannot offload their books without completely crashing the markets
Melvin was able to.

>> No.49351429

>>49343941
How does it work anon?
And who at the FED said that they'd do it?

>> No.49351441

>>49341458
Too much inflation between 2007 and 2022 for it to go this low.
Going back to 2019 levels (around 3000) would already rekt a fuckton of people

>> No.49351470

>>49341646
He also called the BTC top slow fuck

>> No.49351570

>>49344894
that makes no sense retard

>> No.49351595

>>49351570
>>49345058

>> No.49351675

>>49341476
>interest rates are going up
Except they are not

>> No.49352504

>>49343679
upvote

>> No.49352507

>>49344434
Sounds good. I guess most people here exaggerate with their profits.

>> No.49352515

>>49341458
Real support is at 1,500.

>> No.49353900

>>49341543
this, boomers would destroy everything

>> No.49354221

>>49353900
Boomers cannot allow this to happen but I predict a 99 percent crash in give or take 5 or 10 years

>> No.49354281

if you inverse burry you would probably make a killing. he is cathie woods teir of lucky retard

>> No.49354396

>>49341458
does he have a description to go with it?

>> No.49354753

All I know is that the market will ALWAYS do the thing that fucks over the largest amount of people.

>Debtmax on leveraged longs cause inflation's sky-high
>Crash

>Short stocks cause they're overvalued
>Unprecedented bull market, new ATH

>> No.49354839

I hate fucking zoomers and millenitards so I am fine with this. I want it all to crash so their future is nothing but suffering and economic hardship

>> No.49355194

>>49341502
At some point they can’t. Investors will leave treasury bonds and stocks and move into commodities, causing uncontrollable inflation

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>>49344434
I don't know how to feel about this

>> No.49355278

>>49341458
God I fucking hope so. Elon is right, a crash like this would eliminate so much of the current system based on grifting and let us establish a better base again. What he's wrong about is that he would likely be smashed too.

>> No.49355870

>>49345130
>material, utility and value are easily going to off set the tech and finance bear on the index
how?

>> No.49355906

>>49341543
good
cheap houses for the chads who can survive the crash with profit

>> No.49355930

>>49351441
>Too much inflation between 2007 and 2022 for it to go this low.
what hasinflation to do with this? Please explain to a brainlet

>> No.49355997

>>49341458
Hahahaha what a fucking retard. Yeah the SPY will lose over 50% from ATH. HAHAHAHA

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49356068

>>49353900
>boomers would destroy everything
Haha naahhh

>> No.49356097

>>49341458
seems right

>> No.49356297

>>49355194
>they cant
Says who?
>uncontrollable inflation
Yes.

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49356477

>>49354753
>Just flip the whole table over and hard fork usd into usd2
>Crypto fucked
>Stocks fucked
>Bonds fucked
>Metals fucked
>Cash gang fucked

Yeah that cbdc is going to be it for sure. Gotta debtmaxx without being able to get caught then.

>> No.49356574

>>49355997
look at 2008 you faggot nigger

>> No.49356924

>>49341543
the world didn't end when countries declared all out war with each other and the money system collapsed along with shortages of everything.
This was all pre-tech too normies who can't even grow a tomato plant will die

>> No.49356996

>>49356477
I don't think they have the technology to make CBDCs fast enough. they would have to build a system strong enough to handle a crazy amount of traffic. I'm sure they want CBDCs, but it's probably another five to ten years away.

>> No.49357045

>>49341458
we're gonna make Black Tuesday look like a fucking joke

>> No.49357075

>>49341458
S&P will most likely fall to at least 3,200 which was the level just prior to covid. It will likely fall even more due to panic selling so a dip below 2,000 is possible but would be a good buy-in point for the oversold rebound.

>> No.49357328

>>49356996
>crazy amount of traffic
bro why do you think they were out building 5G towers every hundred feet when they locked everyone indoors