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49277640 No.49277640 [Reply] [Original]

how important is a degree in the current economy

>> No.49277682

>>49277640
A lot. At face value they are worthless, but employers make them barrier to entries and it becomes more and more stringent as time goes on

>> No.49277685

>>49277640
This dude clearly has some kind of a condition, but good on him for graduating. Makes him more well read than 50% of /biz/.

>> No.49277722

>>49277685
>Makes him more well read than 50% of /biz/
The modern University system doesn't produce well read or intelligent people in any meaningful degree.

>> No.49277733

>>49277640
depends if it's for STEM, then yes.
trades can surely be a sure bet too, but the construction industry tend to slow down during recession.

As long as you don't get a useless degree you should be fine.

>> No.49277761

>>49277685
Is it some sort of pity program or something? Its degree isn't even real, just says "grats on finishing lol"

>> No.49277814

>>49277640
In europe, very

>> No.49277821

>>49277685
>well read than 50% of /biz/.
I've done 150 college units. College doesn't make you "educated", retard (outside of skill based majors like stem at least).

>> No.49277876

>>49277640
very important. unless you own your own business, you're going to be shit on by someone who has a degree.

t. degreeholder chad in corporate accounting/finance who indirectly shits on hundreds of thousands of minimum wagies without even thinking

>> No.49277904

Having any ol' degree is worthless. Having a degree in a field with job opportunities is everything.

>> No.49278045

>>49277733
>>49277733
You are a decade late for the STEM meme

>> No.49278104

>>49277821
if its US university, even the STEM degrees produce retards.

>> No.49278137

>>49278045

Not in my country. You can do any STEM and get hired to do anything. If you have taken 1 basic course in ML you can get hired to do data analysis etc.

>> No.49278142

>>49278045
This. FAANG dying will kill off all of those cushy 6 figure programming jobs.

>> No.49278173

>>49277640
honestly? can't this thing at least keep it's mouth shut in pictures?

>> No.49278215

>>49278142
faang? It's 2022 lad, facebook is meta and netflix should be crossed out of that aswell since it's dying even harder than fb

>> No.49278249

>>49278104
>even the STEM degrees produce retards
thats cause
>retard in, retard out
>high iq in, high iq out

but good luck getting an engineering job without the little piece of paper saying your brain can understand basic calculus

>> No.49278308

if you have what it takes to make then you will make it regardless of a degree.
if you are a typical /biz/ nocoiner the you will need a graduate degree to compete for those min wage jobs

>> No.49278591

>>49277640
I'm 40 worked in tech for 20 years without a degree.

I'm solid as a technician, easily pass programming interviews, easily find a job etc. BUT not having a degree made it so I never reach the top of organizations no matter how much responsibility I retain.

Slice this up however you want but that's my 2c

>> No.49278642

>>49278591

You started off in a different time in a better economy. It's not recommend for young people to try to replicate your career. That's my take at least.

>> No.49278662 [DELETED] 

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>> No.49278740

I'd pay 40 grand to hunt this beast

>> No.49278965

>>49277640
If you want to matter, extremely. Don't fall for the "do a trade" or "lurn 2 code" memes. You will eventually hit a glass ceiling in every white collar profession if you don't have a degree, unless you're a smart enough to own the company (and if you were zuck, you probably wouldn't be asking here).

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S016028962200023X

There's been a huge increase in sub 90 IQ people getting degrees in the past few decades. Don't go into exorbitant amounts of debt for it but do get one.

>> No.49279062

>>49277640
Get into clinical research through university somehow. Virtually fool proof guaranteed outcomes if you get internships/experience along with it and get a PhD.

>> No.49279191

>>49277640
He is already more successful that 98% of people here

>> No.49279255

>>49277761
looks very poorly photoshopped, but I never went to school.

>> No.49279301

>>49277640
Great idea if you want to be a nurse/doctor/lawyer. Not so much for most degrees

>> No.49279407

You can get an online degree from WGU for around 10k

>> No.49279499

>>49277640
It’s extremely important if you’re not self employed. There are boomers that can barely send emails and need hours of training to use a new tool with a GUI that are paid 5 times as much as I am because they have a degrees while I’m a college dropout carrying the entire department for a top 5 telecom company and making barely more than min wage. Im going to work in a warehouse at the end of the year because it pays more. My n+1 knows the department will collapse then (which stand to make the company lose hundreds of millions in the coming years because pajeets can’t yake over despite what HR boomers think) but because of the way these huge companies work they can’t pay someone without a degree a decent wage. Their loss, I’m a 3x away from making it.

>> No.49279639

>>49277640
grab the cheapest one you can find and bullshit your way around the rest of the qualifications

>t. biz admin degree

>> No.49279819

>>49278215
Why do people in IT want to work in FAANG anyways? Work for the government and you will have better job security l, better benefits, and less working hours.

>> No.49279846

It's basically an entry barrier for most jobs, unless you work in an industry that's so shitty & doesn't gey any decent workers that the guy who doesn't eat glue can become a manager

>> No.49279865

>>49278642
I agree with you but I think it has less to do with the economy and more to do with common perceptions of the value of tech jobs.

>> No.49281223

I dipped out of my UNI scholarship in one year, learned a trade and got my self incorporated/insured and never looked back. Making about 120k/year and work 3 days/week on average. Spend my free time learning about trees and play in my garden, only education you need. My wife on the otherhand got her PHD, and has to slog through professor contracts because she hates corporate life but loves teaching, education isn't important unless you are using it to apply to a very specific field that requires it. How can I convince her to take a cushy government policy job...

>> No.49282381

>>49277685
>This dude
i think its a woman

>> No.49283844

>>49279819
*fewer working hours

"Less than" is for mass nouns, "fewer than" for countable nouns.

>> No.49284266

>>49279819
i think its compsci students, coders/devs want to get into FAGMAN. IT people dont give a shit and usually start off at call centers.
google show off their kOoL work environment and working for one of the most successful companies makes you look good.

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49284900

>>49277722
>The modern University system doesn't produce well read or intelligent people in any meaningful degree.
Modern education doesn't educate at all. Critical thinking skills are never properly taught only how to cram as much general information inside the heads of people as possible to make profit off of the whole ordeal. How to actually navigate and properly react to situations never has any presence in modern classrooms.

>> No.49285203
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49285203

>>49277640
>be me
>6’4 /fit/ blonde/blue eyes
>produce shitty rhythms and rap beats for a hobby 7 years ago on YouTube
>unemployed just gym and fap
>get a burst of inspiration
>walk into an s&p 500 company in my city
>hired by roastie on the spot
>110k/year assistant coordinator of client relations for music production branch

Everyone I work with has a degree and spent years in school incurring debt/anger just to get absolutely mogged by me, essentially a white nigger

They aren’t important at all. You might have the confidence to apply for a job with a relative degree but the reality is that the people hiring you don’t give a fuck as long as you don’t make them look bad and/or aren’t ugly/weird/unpleasant to be around.

If you at any point in life need school to succeed = NGMI

>> No.49285252

>>49281223
what trade?

>> No.49285257

degrees are important for exactly 6months post college then experience overtakes it. no one cares that you graduated in the 80's, they care that youve been doing that job for 20 years

>> No.49285309

It's not bad to have one, but you better have more than just a degree going for you if it isn't STEM or something else high demand

>> No.49285312

>>49285203
>getting into a corporate office without a security badge or an appointment with someone such that the front desk roastie can verify your identity and purpose for being on campus
it's painfully obvious when a NEET LARPs about having a job. i know mom has been breaking your balls about finally getting a job, a hear walmart pays $18/hour to the curbside pickup wagies!

>> No.49285336

>>49285203
>just be hot bro
You might as well be a woman. That's how useful advice coming from you is.

>> No.49285389

>>49285312
cope, collegefag, how many hours did you waste studying while that guy was banging chicks? no wonder u mad

>> No.49285401

>>49277640
you are super fucked if you don't have at minimum a 4 year degree unless you plan on working front-end retail/hospitality or owning your own business. With a 4 year degree, you're less fucked and in a different way. A better outcome and higher quality of life, but it's still not pretty.

>> No.49285427

>>49284900
tfw no war criminal gf why even live bros

>> No.49285504

>>49277821
No, but it does prove to your employer that you’re not a complete fucking retard with a half decent work ethic.

>> No.49285630

>>49278215
You're right it's MAGMA now
Meta, Amazon, Microsoft, Google, Apple

Except since Google's parent co is now Alphabet it's technically MAAMA

>> No.49285910
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49285910

>>49285630

IT'S MA'AAM

>> No.49286032

>>49277733
>As long as you don't get a useless degree you should be fine.
Too late...

>> No.49287115

>>49277685
It's a woman, baby.

>> No.49287153

>>49277640
>has ring on finger meaning they are married
This proves there is no woman on earth that is too ugly to fuck. We are officially in a bubble, boys.

>> No.49287241

>>49277640
I'm not convinced that it matters if you do enough things on the side to demonstrate your work ethic and ability to actually apply concepts.
At the same time, if you want to be a corporate wagie climbing the ladder, then yeah you'll need one because big corporations are retard daycare now.
As other Anons in this thread have said, education has been so ridiculously diluted and the critical skills it used to teach have been lost to humanities and academia retardation. Degrees prior to 2014 are probably actually worth something, while anything post must be scrutinized.

Tbqh I've seen enough job postings that say "degree or equivalent experience" that you can have 3 years of education or whatever behind you and it's good enough if you do other things relevant to the job. That's what got me my job. Might be cope and seethe and maybe I'll complete the last 2 years to get a real bachelor's degree, but we'll see.

>> No.49287325

>>49277640
What's her condition?

>> No.49287445

>>49277640
Whether one shits on people who are deformed or literally, physically retarded is a more accurate more litmus test than the shopping cart theory.

>> No.49287544

>>49277761
Graduation ceremonies typically take place before grades are finalized, at least in the US. If you're expected to graduate then you walk and accept a ceremonial document, then they send you your actual degree later.