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SO is this board mostly /pol/ or what?

Which board do you mainly post on? What attracted to you to /biz/?

>> No.49125

regular poster on /mu/ and /sp/, once in a while /lit/ and /tv/

I've been waiting for a finance/economics board for a while

>> No.49123

This is /g/ /pol/ /jp/ and [s4s] territory friend

>> No.49135
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I find myself going on /a/ and /v/ a lot but I have been wanting a board like this for a long time.

>> No.49141

/fit/ and /fa/

>> No.49145

I hang out on /tg/ but I own a biz, and I saw the link.

>> No.49157

>>49099
this board is /pol/ and the bad parts of /g/

it's a shithole

>> No.49166

>>49099
/co/, /ck/, /g/ here.

>> No.49178

>>49099
/k/, /tg/ and /o/

Just ignore the /pol/ and focus on the actual info, there's some decent tips here and there.

>> No.49180

/tg/ and /d/

>> No.49195

/pol/ and /g/ here

>> No.49210

/co/, /a/, /tg/ and sometimes /pol/

I got sick of pol since the only things I ever wanted to do was talk about econ stuff, I'm glad this baord exists.

>> No.49215

/fa/ and /sci/

>> No.49232

>>49123
alright, I'm a regular on /pol/ and I noticed a lot of similarities.

>> No.49233

/g/, /pol/, /r9k/, /sci/, /v/, and /fit/ here
also KC /int/ and 4ch_on /r9k/ and /new/

does everyone here just go on 4chan?

>> No.49240

We had a poll about this.

/g/, /pol/, /a/, and /v/ is 70% of the board.

>> No.49242
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/pol/, /tg/, /g/, /k/, /vg/, /fit/

Fellow /tg/ers, what's your poison?

>> No.49247
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/b/, [esfores]

>> No.49261
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>>49242
warhammer and MtG

although I'm not currently interested in MtG, maybe in a year or so I'll be back into it. and I don't play warhammer anymore but I still love reading lore/painting and modeling figures.

>> No.49253

>>49240
OP here

I go on /pol/ and /r9k/ and /sp/ mostly.

I like economics and usually some decent conversations can come from it.

>> No.49264

>>49240
source?

>> No.49266

/fa/, /mu/, /lit/, /cgl/ and sometimes /a/
captcha: SUCCESSFUL msBacka

>> No.49277

/sp/ for car racing threads, and now /biz/

>> No.49292

/sp/ and /g/

this has the potential to be a decent board. been waiting for it for awhile now

>> No.49305

/co/ and /m/

I spend an awful amount of time consuming garbage after just graduating college and I'm looking for motivation.

>> No.49313

/pol/, /sp/, and /adv/ here.

>> No.49333

This board is either going to be a nice small and slow board that a few users enjoy, or another /pol/ satellite state board like /int/.

>inb4 OMG SRS/etc shills
This board is inevitably going to be right wing in at least economics.

It'll be interesting to see the board culture develop at the very least.

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/lgbt/ and /b/

>> No.49346

We should have the person with the most money become the king of /biz/.

>> No.49343

/pol/ topped the Strawpoll that I saw. /v/ was surprisingly high, as well as a few others (/fit/ and /a/ were up there iirc). I move around enough that I don't really have a home board. Came here to see what's up like I do with most new boards; might stick around.

>> No.49370

I came from a combination of /a/ and /o/.

While /o/ has the financial literacy of an SU Carburettor, late night /a/ actually proved themselves to be decently informed (if completely unmotivated) on more than one occasion.

>> No.49403

>>49333
>This board is inevitably going to be right wing in at least economics.

I doubt it. Hopefully it becomes pragmatic and non-ideological, just like economics in academia currently is.

- Free markets
- Pigouvian taxes
- Policy activism in the face of economic crises.

>> No.49410

>>49099
This board is full of memecoins, but it's also partly /pol/ and partly financial literate people. A handful of high rollers, some FI/RE seekers.

I like it. I'm financially literate, seeking FI/RE if I don't find employment that's enjoyable/satisfying, which I haven't yet.

>> No.49407

>>49333
yeah I think it will be interesting to see the board culture develop, I have seen a lot of /pol/ culture on here though, not that it's a bad thing.

I do see some decent discussions on here though so I feel like there's potential

>> No.49415

/pol/ and /fit/. To be fair, /pol/ is shit 75% of the time.

This board would be much better without half of the threads being about the cryptocurrency flavor of the day.

>> No.49419

/tg/ /d/ /a/. I like finance, it interests me.

>> No.49428

I'm here to make some dough

>> No.49431

>>49333
Yeah, except right wing economics is fucking retarded, and I won't rest until that is the standard here.
>muh Free Market Jesus™
>muh objectivism
>muh Job Creators

This is 4chan, it's full of Neet fucks and such. I don't think that they would embrace that nonsense, even if we tend towards racism/shock.

>> No.49443

>>49431
I would describe what you greentexted as "Economics of the right wing" rather than "right wing Economics"

basically I mean those are like dumbass GOP congressmen interpretations of somewhat sensible right wing economics.

>> No.49456

I mostly go to /mu/, /co/, /p/ and /o/.
I occasionally go to /g/, but always wish I hadn't, I go to /fa/ on occasion for some advice, and now here.

Im in business school and have always wanted /biz/ to be a thing. So here I am.

>> No.49470

>>49431
>>49410

Oh yeah, my main board is /g/, and every now and then I go to /v/, /o/, /ic/.

>> No.49476

>>49431
By right wing economics I meant capitalism, and general support of the free market as a good thing. Also, there isn't going to be much support for communism here obviously.

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anyone from /pol/ here who was around to witness the epic zimmerman threads? Remember all the great OC that came from it?


I'd like creativity like that here.

>> No.49498

/sp/

I have no need for the other "advice" boards on 4chan

>> No.49495

>>49443
I imagine myself as relatively well read... but beyond Friedman's dislike of Keynesian monetary policies(even if he agreed with it when the chips are down), and even his support of a negative income tax... what is right wing economics?

Beyond the fucktards of the Republican party I mean.

>> No.49518

>>49476
Communism is obviously bad, but I think we need to look into basic incomes more and more. The second AI revolution currently in progress, and income inequality I think are serious breakdowns in our capitalist system.

>> No.49525

>>49403
>I doubt it.
Are you kidding me?
It's already is.

This is basically the libertarian board.

>> No.49527

>>49482
The first examples of board culture emerging on /biz/ will inevitably be people who took advice here and went into financial ruin.

Mark my words.

>> No.49529

>>49482
>>49482
yeah one of the nice things about /pol/ was the events everyone followed together, like Zimmerman, Sandy hook, Donner, it'd be nice to see that here, maybe with big mergers or big market events like the Euro bailouts, strikes etc.

although it's nice to be away from the extreme sort of racism and misogyny on /pol/, it did surprisingly have good discussions

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>>49482

>> No.49539

>>49403
>academia
>free markets
Oh wait you're serious.

>>49431
>I don't think that they would embrace that nonsense
Are you actually that dumb? We already do.

You're the one worshiping statism as a religion.

>> No.49540

/a/

I was hoping I would be able to see discussion about technical trading analysis and expose myself to more books people here have read.

>> No.49544

>>49495

I always think of the chicago school when I think of right wing economics, as opposed to the "saltwater" economics

>> No.49558

>>49529
yeah but at the same time the fact that /pol/ was so racist made it okay for you talk a little racist here and there too, everyones a little bit racist.


Also yeah you summed it up perfectly. They were great at organizing threads. It was great when dorner was on the loose too.

>tfw when there will never be a happening as big as Dorner or Zimmerman for awhile now

>> No.49560

I usually browse /v/ and actually try and keep up with what's going on. Sometimes I browse /pol/, /fit/, and /k/ just to see if anything funny is going on there. I now kinda browse /biz/ for that same reason, because there's no way I'm going to /biz/ just to sift through cryptocurrency threads all night.

>> No.49551

>>49527
Im waiting for these "how do I get rich now" threads, and these "I'm in college, how fucked am I threads" to get board standard answers. Both are entirely asinine questions.

We need a sticky like /fa/ and /fit/ and shit to ward off this repudiative shit.

>> No.49554

>>49527
I doubt it. I've seen some decent, and given some decent advice. Shooting people towards frugality, index funds, investing and not gambling/speculating.

There's a decent bogleheads group already establishing itself here. I myself tend towards DGI/Value investing, but that's a semantic thing, and any investing is better then memecoin shit.

Which is the cancer of this board. Maybe after a year or more of Dogecoin without people making gains worth talking about? Continued sideways/down trading in Bitcoin and continued scandals?

>> No.49568

/v/

>> No.49572

>>49544
I think American politics and by extention their political and economic views are very polarized as a result of their two party system, so naturally that spills over onto their discussions of these subjects and 4chan does seem to be US dominated

this right wing left wing stuff really doesn't seem helpful in meaningfully describing anyone's viewpoints or any particular set of theories

>> No.49569

>>49539
It's like you're not aware of the existence of the Chicago School.

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/pol/ here

Got banned pretty quick on the first day.

>> No.49584

I thought /pol/ hated economics because Jews

>> No.49585

>>49529
with /pol/, you really have to search hard for good content, those threads that last for half a day that gets a reply maybe every 10 minutes or so. The front page is usually bumped with absolute filth for the most part. There have been many great discussions, and the catalouge was ever so important.

On topic, Former /b/tard, /fit/, /sp/, /pol/, /trv/ and /vr/.

>> No.49590

>>49578
there is a lot of jew talk around here

But to be honest jews really do have a lot of pull in economics and in the world and world

>> No.49592

>>49569
>It's like you're not aware of the existence of the Chicago School.
Uh yeah, the school that has almost no influence.

Modern academia is keynesian.

In fact paul krugman's books are mandatory at most universities now.

>> No.49593

>>49551
I'll wait for that shit to happen, but until I see it we should be fine.

I'm very happy about how things are coming along here. If only we had /his/-history I'd be creaming my pants.

>> No.49595

/pol/ /vp/ /tg/ /int/ in that order

>> No.49607

Predictions:

1./biz/ will be libertarian. With all the cryptocoin threads and /pol/ influence, it's inevitable. Anyone saying otherwise is denying the obvious.

2.The amount of /pol/ influence here will be as much as /k/ roughly. You won't see people making 300 post nazi celebration threads like on /int/, but there will be usage of le happy merchant whenever a large financial scam happens in the media. People will occasionally complain about /pol/ while others defend it.

3.If this board gets large enough, it may attract some shitposting/shilling from some of /pol/'s traditional internet enemies due to general shenanigans resulting from those angered by /pol/
>inb4 you're paranoid
http://antisemitism.org.il/article/85225/antisemitic-meme-jew
/pol/ managed to get an Australian tax-payer funded organization to make a 30 page report based on one of its memes, 4chan isn't an obscure place anymore.

>> No.49609

>>49593
Yeah, im not concerned. Its just getting really repudiative.

>> No.49642

>>49518
basic income is not communism because the means of production doesn't change hands

>> No.49638

>>49572

a lot of macroeconomics boils down to: should we increase GDP by government spending, or by cutting taxes, and to which degree? the political parties in the us are polarized on things like this, so yeah i guess you're right

>> No.49640

>>49593
All of us, including moot, know that /hist/ will be another /pol/ board.

There's a remote chance that this place won't be /pol/ flavor, but I doubt it.

>> No.49658

>>49607
>/pol/ managed to get an Australian tax-payer funded organization to make a 30 page report based on one of its memes, 4chan isn't an obscure place anymore.
HAHAHAHHA HOLY FUCK

>> No.49660

>>49642
>A basic income is a proposed system of social security that regularly provides each citizen with a sum of money unconditionally. Basic income is entirely unconditional: the only requirement for receiving it is to be a citizen and/or resident of the country.

That sounds like socialism to me, and that's only a hop skip and a jump away from communism. Besides, how are you going to deal with motivation for working?

>> No.49663

/pol/, /g/, /diy/ here

>> No.49672

>>49607
I'm not sure what is more pathetic. /pol/ pushing the meme everywhere and anywhere, or a bunch of Jews actually taking it seriously and wasting time writing up this report.

>> No.49673

I come from /sp/ and /mlp/. I love economics so I though this would be a good board. It didn't disappoint.

>> No.49693

>>49642
No, but it is a more liberal issue. I consider myself left-libertarian, pro personal freedoms but respectful of the importance of regulations and government in our lives, especially in the world stage.

And even as a person making more then the median income in the US(75k/year), and as someone with more wealth then the median(>100k), I support a basic income, and I fucking hate the term "job creators" or idolating the rich. Especially since most of them are scum that got there by cronyism and gaming the system.

>> No.49700

>>49663
/v/, /cgl/, /mu/ here.


Lol communications degree with a business minor and crippling debt.

>> No.49718

>>49660
Basic income. Not good income. It provides some freedom for Walmart and others to innovate away from workers, but also provides some detachment from working for workers in favor of workers rights.

Work is the slavery of the masses. Being beholden to your employers... Asking "please sir, can I have another", fearing layoffs and changes in employment opportunities.

A basic income. Enough to put a roof above your head and food on your plate. Not enough to add in your luxuries, your better food, your vacations.

>> No.49724

>>49700

i hear ya, brother

>> No.49735

>>49099
>Which board do you mainly post on?
a int pol sci g ck trv h
>What attracted to you to /biz/?
It's still new so the /biz/ of this week shall die forever after post 100000.

>> No.49741

>>49718
I'd like to add that this only slightly helps me. I'm relatively frugal, and a pretty decent earner. If I was laid off I could survive for 5 years or more at this time.

>> No.49744

>>49735
idk I'm guessing there will still be very strong /po/ influences

>> No.49762

>>49718
>Work is the slavery of the masses. Being beholden to your employers...

Work is a fact of fucking reality.
Resources are scarce.
Voluntarily trading your labour for money raises your living standards far more than if you had to produce everything yourself.

>> No.49784 [DELETED] 

>>49744
I like to keep tabs on what the right wingers are bitching about now

>> No.49815

>>49658
You think that's interesting? Look at /b/ nowadays. Basically all of their raids directed at a specific target are /pol/ themed. /g/ has worked with /pol/ for the FSF trolling, and /v/ was against one of /pol/'s enemies due to Mighty No 9.

There are a few threads that /pol/ is kept away from, but only due to heavy moderation. It is spreading, and soon 4chan may be the largest right wing extremist site on the internet.

>>49672
To be fair, they don't really push it. Most of the time they use it ALL THE TIME on /pol/, and a few examples naturally spill out from there.

>> No.49820

>>49762
labor isn't that scarce
soon most of it is going away as well when mcdonald's is just a place where your microwaved food is served on a tray by a robot

>> No.49834

>>49099
I'd say there's some /int/ in here, some /g/ and /sci/, a BIT of /pol/, but a lot of hostility to /pol/ culture (let's keep it that way).

Really this board has the potential to be extremely unique. The Jew-bashing is straight-up not gonna fly here, simply because this is the ultimate Jew board. The NEET shit also takes on a different tinge when it's actually about self-improvement.

>> No.49838

>>49693
I'm a right libertarian and I'm for basic income provided we do away with the welfare system, social security system, food stamps, alimony, child support

basically anything the government currently has its hands in because "think of the people who can't afford to eat/live" will have no argument behind it

and of course no means testing, it's a tax prebate for everyone

>> No.49846

>>49099
and as for me, I (currently) browse but don't necessarily affiliate with:
/biz/, /v/, /tv/, /mu/, /pol/, /int/

>> No.49842

>>49762

And what of the 10+ million unemployed? Not just the U6 number. The 13 million.
The 3.6 million long term unemployed?
The companies not willing to hire or train?

There is no dignity in unskilled labor, and even some skilled labor fields will soon see robotization/automation, with Google and others automating 3 million transportation jobs in the relatively near future.

Are we all to hope that the Koch(Cock) brothers and the Waltons will be so nice as to deign to employ them all as artizens? Fuck, the government isn't even spending the money to fix our infrastructure because of the fucking obstructionist republican party.

>> No.49852

I figured it was mostly /g/ and /pol/ with maymaycoins and econ threads, and then /jp/ and /sp/ with NEETbux and finance/trading threads.

but everyone is a crossboarder these days, so its hard to tell anymore

>> No.49853

>>49815
>Basically all of their raids directed at a specific target are /pol/ themed. /g/ has worked with /pol/ for the FSF trolling, and /v/ was against one of /pol/'s enemies due to Mighty No 9.

That's awesome, seriously.

It's great we have a base to to counter leftists on the internet.

>>49820
>soon most of it is going away as well when mcdonald's is just a place where your microwaved food is served on a tray by a robot
No, if we had a free market deflationary currency, working hours would decrease as prices fell so the amount of jobs available would double and quadruple thanks to the new slots available.

>> No.49870

>>49853
>free market deflationary currency, working hours would decrease as prices fell so the amount of jobs available would double and quadruple thanks to the new slots available.

WTF am I reading? Do you even know what a deflationary currency does to an economy?

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>>49842
>And what of the 10+ million unemployed? Not just the U6 number. The 13 million.
>The 3.6 million long term unemployed?
>The companies not willing to hire or train?


What about them?
If we actually had economic growth again, countless jobs would be available for these people.

But we have a stagnant zombie economy thanks to the federal reserve which is going to collapse.

>Are we all to hope that the Koch(Cock) brothers
AHAHAHHA Oh god, don't fucking pull that shit here, seriously.

you seem to get your talking points from msnbc and huffington post.

>Fuck, the government isn't even spending the money to fix our infrastructure
Infrastructure is irrelevant without an economy, holy shit, all china does is spend money on infrastructure. All north korea does is that.

>> No.49882

>>49870
>Do you even know what a deflationary currency does to an economy?
Yes, we get the gilded age. Free banking.
Prices fell ginormously while wages rose ginormously.

Deflation is only bad if it happens in response to previous artificial inflation.

>> No.49887

This is the "cryptocurrency board" so I'm 80% certain it will not be slow moving. Since all the cryptocurrencies are here though, it'll probably bring attention to other business topics that normally wouldn't get attention, so recipe for success in my mind.

The initial hostility to /pol/ culture will stay, for better or worse.

This board will do something "influential" in the real world within the next two years, recent example being /g/'s doge shilling.

/mu/, /g/, /jp/ here.

>> No.49889

>>49873
No. We have a stagnant economy because of income inequality concentrating all the wealth and screaming "DON'T RAISE OUR JERB CREATOR TAXES", meanwhile the middle class is poorer...

and what is the engine that drives our economic growth? The middle class. Not the mega wealthy.

>> No.49904

>>49873
>Infrastructure is irrelevant without an economy

Do you even New Deal?

>> No.49914

>>49838
>do away with the welfare system, social security system, food stamps, alimony, child support
yeah this is all cool. So long as you're also for Urop style health care.

>> No.49933

>>49834
> a BIT of /pol/
According to the polls, they're the largest demographic. Not the majority, but hardly a minority.

>a lot of hostility to /pol/ culture (let's keep it that way).
I wouldn't really say that. Remember the board browser naming threads? If those can be used as a litmus test, the relative popularity of rab/biz/ and /biz/raelis indicates not that much hostility to /pol/

>The Jew-bashing is straight-up not gonna fly here
You won't see that much antisemitism here, but you will find plenty of le happy merchants posted. I predict this place will be about as racist as /k/ most likely. Not as much as /int/, but it won't be another /co/ either.

The best thing to do is to let the merchant memes be posted and let things progress for now honestly.

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>>49889
>income inequality
You're trolling me right?
See pic.

You people print trillions of dollars and give it to bankers and corporations and you have the balls to wonder why we have "income inequality"

It's an irrelevant statistic, why? The more money saved by people the stronger the currency becomes for everyone else that uses it.
The congo has some of the lowest income inequality in the world. Why don't you move there?

>"DON'T RAISE OUR JERB CREATOR TAXES"
Where do you think the jobs fucking come from you gigantic moron?
Stop listening to bill mahar.

>meanwhile the middle class is poorer...
Thanks to the federal reserve.

>and what is the engine that drives our economic growth? The middle class. Not the mega wealthy.
No, capital does. But whatever.

>> No.49943

>>49904
>Do you even New Deal?
Lol you mean the thing that made the great depression great?

yeah I remember that, it was pretty fucking horrible.
Glad we cut those policies after the war so we could have a real economy again.

Go move to china.

>> No.49944

>>49887
>This is the "cryptocurrency board" ....it'll probably bring attention to other business topics that normally wouldn't get attention, so recipe for success in my mind.
Hm, I like this perspective. The cryptobabbies will get educated and abandon their stupid shit in favor of stocks and such.

>The initial hostility to /pol/ culture will stay, for better or worse.
This is definitely better.

>This board will do something "influential" in the real world within the next two years, recent example being /g/'s doge shilling.
I say in a year or so, there will at least be daily rage threads directed at economists on twitter. At least, I would hope. That'd be hilarious.

>> No.49962

>>49933
>You won't see that much antisemitism here, but you will find plenty of le happy merchants posted.
Sure, but it'll be our mascot, rather than our pinata.

>I predict this place will be about as racist as /k/ most likely. Not as much as /int/,
>/int/
>racist
sure, there's plenty of racist shitflinging, but the uropoors and generally educated folk have enough sway to balance the /pol/ influence. as well, there's much more in terms of banter and patriotism than there is of nationalism.

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>>49939

>> No.49970

>>49943
>Go move to china.
no libertarian scum, you move to China. you'd fucking like it there, they even have deadly smog and wage slavery.

>> No.49976

>>49944
>I say in a year or so, there will at least be daily rage threads directed at economists on twitter
I want this to happen.

>> No.49977

>>49970
>China
>libertarian
lel

>> No.49981

>>49970
>you'd fucking like it there, they even have deadly smog and wage slavery.
They have no private property rights so pollution is everywhere

They are forced to receive slave wages in a socialist currency that is extremely undervalued thanks to the state

YOU LIVE THERE YOU PIECE OF SHIT

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>>49939

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>> No.50001

>>49967
>irrelevant graphs
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp6dolWDIvQ

Income inequality is the most deceptive statistic ever put forth. It has nothing at all to do with why our economy sucks. If anything it's a symptom, not a cause.

The super rich have a lot more money than ever now because they used central banks(which you support).
http://mises.org/daily/6653/How-Central-Banks-Cause-Income-Inequality

>> No.50002

>>49994
i can still get it

>> No.50008

>>49962
Well, this board is brand new, so who knows what will happen? There's pretty decent chances of this board not getting involved in the shit-flings /pol/ has with reddit and others if its small enough.

/k/ has a much worse time of it. All the people that /pol/ pisses off don't want the most well armed part of 4chan to be /pol/, so they try and convince /k/ that /pol/ is antigun. /pol/ inevitably posts Jewish senators that support gun control, and the whole thing becomes a shitfest.

>> No.50016

>>49939
Capital is nothing if the middle class doesn't feel right buying a new car because who knows what awaits around the corner. Jerb Creators don't *will* jobs into existence. The economy demands stuff and so the market responds.

>> No.50035

>>50000

>> No.50074

>>49967

They all seemed to change by a similar percentage.

>> No.50094

>>49099
I have the politics of pol, but I've never gone on pol because I don't want to be surrounded by people I agree with. I do think there's some overlap in why I go to sci and why I'm drawn to biz. I'm interested in that kind of progress.

>> No.50103

I visit /a/, /v/, /vg/, /mu/, /pol/, /sci/.
I've always wanted a board like this. Mainly for discussing what stocks and funds to invest in.
Also for discussing economic politics because everytime I try to do that on /pol/ someone posts 40 charts on how jews are behind inflation and national debt.

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>>50074

>> No.50174

>>49993
That has nothing to do with anything.

>>50016
>Jerb Creators don't *will* jobs into existence.
I know, they have to save scarce resources

>The economy demands stuff and so the market responds.
Supply comes first demand comes later.

Don't give me that keynesian bullshit.

>> No.50238

/tg/, /fit/, /ck/, once in a blue moon /x/
Found out there was a board like this and thought it would be interesting.

>> No.50279

>>50120
Wouldn't fewer high and middle wage earners reduce inequality?

>> No.50281

>>50174
Only in the case of pent up demand, see Xbone or PS4.

In the case of other items, no. See Microsoft Surface.

>> No.50286

because I actually work in the /biz/ - small global financial firm

>> No.50297

>>50281
>pent up demand
hahaha oh god

Every time we've tried that "demand grows an economy" pseudoscience we've ended up with recessions and unemployment.

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>>50279

>> No.50313

/a/. Post on [s4s], also.

I normally pop into new boards for a bit to see what they are like. I'm liking this board so far. Currently, I'm staying around for a bit to find out about ways to make money because I have no job, but I have no fucking idea about what most of the people are talking about on this board. I like some of the NEETbux threads.

>> No.50321

>>49099
/b/, looked interesting.

>> No.50340

>>50297
Is it so inconceivable that maybe we've swung too far from too much taxes to too little taxes on the wealthy? Is that so hard to imagine?

Is it hard to imagine that if the government wasn't trying to cut back, and endeavored to fix our infrastructure, and instead of cutting back on social security benefits removing the cap on income available to FICA taxes, our economy and outlook might improve?

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>>50300
Exactly.

What do you think happens when you print trillions of dollars and give it to bankers and corporations?

You're seriously wondering why?
You're the one's who support this. Not us.

Stop it.

>>50340
>Is it so inconceivable that maybe we've swung too far from too much taxes to too little taxes on the wealthy?
No because during the 1950s we had lower taxes than today.
People saving money and starting businesses is what grows an economy. It's absolutely incredible anyone would think taking this money away and having the government waste it would be good for the economy.

>and endeavored to fix our infrastructure
The infrastructure is worthless without an economy. We need to produce consumer goods. MORE products and services like food, technology medicine etc. More capital goods like concrete, steel, oil. The building blocks that allow consumer goods to exist.

China steals from their people and all they do is build infrastructure. Now they have ghost cities.

> and instead of cutting back on social security benefits
Which is bankrupt and generation Y isn't going to see any of it whatsoever. We should be allowed to OPT out so we can be free to save the money ourselves and invest it how we want.

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>>50300
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/09/10/some-95-of-2009-2012-income-gains-went-to-wealthiest-1/
See pic.

>> No.50370

>>49099
normally lurk /mu/ and /tg/ and /vp/. sometimes stop in other boards, normally /lit/ and /ck/. And of course the porn boards.

I saw the header and thought it was cool. Now I'm probably gonna lurk here.

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>>50362
>No because during the 1950s we had lower taxes than today.
Patently untrue.

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>>50362
Also this

>> No.50393

Am stock broker and investor, mainly browse /fit/, /lit/ and /mu/ and so far this /biz/rael stuff is great. If cointards and the occasional frustrated /pol/troll is all the trouble we'll have I'm sticking around.

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>>50384
I JUST posted the article and the study that debunks the very picture you are posting.

Stop lying.

>> No.50400

From /sci/
This is my main board now

>> No.50406

>>50392
see
>>50397
and
>>50362

On top of that, ask anyone from the 1950s if taxes were actually that high, they would laugh in your face.

It's incredible you think society was burdened by that many taxes back then when they were producing all of this amazing stuff.

>> No.50432

>>49914
healthcare and basic life costs are not the same thing

you wouldn't get rid of the healthcare system just because everyone is getting paid $1000 a month

let's treat that as a separate issue

>> No.50436

/a/, /int/

I only come here for the career advice.
Different perspectives are always good.

>> No.50441

/k/ - /pol/ - /sp/

>> No.50515

/mu/ and /pol/ with some /sp/ and [s4s]
would like to familiarize myself with economics

>> No.50566

Mostly /fit/ and /tv/. Visited /pol/ a lot in the summer, but realised I should stop unless I want to end up with mental illness.

>> No.50584

>>50515
>would like to familiarize myself with economics
Economics in one lesson by Henry Hazlitt.
http://mises.org/books/economics_in_one_lesson_hazlitt.pdf

>> No.50588

/a/ /tg/ /co/ /m/

I'm a geek interested in being financially independent so I can just stay at home and engage in my hobbies all day.

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I'm /a/, /sp/, and occasionally /lgbt/ (it's shit, but I met my bf there)

>> No.50695

/a/ /sp/ /v/ /k/ /int/
On my last semester of major coursework for my Bachelor's of Science in Economics. Currently aiming to get into an Economics doctorate program or an International Relations master's program. Figured the concentration of people who give a shit about Economics/Finance might be dense enough for me to be able to read discussion about it without wanting to commit sudoku.

>> No.50764

vg, ic and g and k sometimes

>> No.50785

I'm /o/, /fa/ and /pol/

I'm here because I'm a money hungry Jew. And ever since I saw the tumblr for TheRichestKidsOfInstagram, I've been obsessed with wealth.

>> No.50791

>>50627
You are so gay

>> No.50799

>>50393
How's /biz/ness?

Where you located anon? How much you earning? What it like? How'd you get the job? Who do you deal with? Penny stocks? Opinion on the wolf of Wall Street movie? What are customers like? What's the Commision? How did the GFC effect you? Comments on the market? Anything you would've done differently? Advice for a younger anon who wants to go into investement banking?

>> No.50809

>>49099
The novelty of "let's get financial advice from four chan!"

I want to see which one of you suckers are falling for it.

>> No.50813

I'm from /g/ and followed the crypto threads over.

>> No.50831

>>49578
>February 2014

Christ, first newfag day on /pol/ and you're already shitposting.

>> No.50839

Whch 2hu wud u fug?

>> No.50846

>>50809
>see all cryptoshit threads

>> No.50849

>>49099
I seriously hope not as /pol/ is full of extremely conservative idiots and have a horrible train of though.

>> No.50858

I just come here to post communist threads and piss off everyone from /pol/.

>> No.50892

>>50839
Pache because she's fat.

>> No.50904

>>49607
>reading this report
>tfw kikes can't even spell 4chan

>> No.50960

>>49141

board with biggest quads and board with smallest quads

>> No.50965

I usually browse /v/ /vg/ and /pol/ , but I only browse /pol/ for the occasional /econ/ threads so I am excited to see what this board has to offer as the culture develops. I just hope that it doesn't turn into a shit hole where everyone is calling everyone either a JIDF member or an SRS member.

>> No.51002

>>49099
Mostly fit, I'm just interested by economics didn't expect this board to be so /pol/

>> No.51064

[s4s] /g/ and sometimes /v/ & /mlp/

>> No.51085

>>50965
Why are people like you so retarded?

If anything this board will turn into people calling others shills for the FED or something like that, not JIDF or SRS

>> No.51088

I work in the industry. Most posters are retarded, but it's fun educating people and occasional you can get into interesting discussions. I'd like to think of myself as apolitical, but I guess I'm a libertarian?

>> No.51091

>>50858
Then you're a moron, there are already a bunch of communists on /pol/ anyway

>> No.51094

Krautchan

>> No.51565

/tv/ and /fit/. sometimes /g/ and /ck/

>> No.51582

/r9k/ here.

I also like /fit/ a lot, with a good dose of /pol/

>> No.51604

/o/, /a/ and /e/ reporting in, although /biz/ became my home board. I love economic debates and the quality of discussion is pretty great.

>> No.51631

>>49099
/co/ mostly. Coming here to maybe pick up a few tips for saving, spending, and making money wisely because I'm pretty much poor as fuck right now.

>> No.51638

I would say this board is a natural for a lot of the guys from /pol/. Most of us just wanted to talk about the economy and geo-political shit that was going on, because we were interested in the opportunities that came forth.

I took a look and it's looking like there was a big brain drain on /pol/. Then again maybe it has always been shit!

>> No.51655

>>49099
/fit/, /tg/ and /k/.
I am going to study econs at uni and generally enjoy this stuff.

>> No.51662

>>49242
40k, trying to shift into other stuff, pain to do in a country with almost no shops selling miniatures.

>> No.51910

>>49099
/v/, /co/, and /tg/ are my main boards, and /out/ every once and a while. I wanted to work on getting my money game right. Figured I'd check it out.

>> No.55491

>>50393
I concur, this board is genius. I want to suck Moot's dick so bad.

>> No.55496

/k/.

>> No.55528

>>51091
>>50858
This, and lots of economists at least have respect for Marx's theories and writing. Urop has shown that socialism is a valid form of govt. even now. And with the coming wave of automation and decentralized energy, this age of captialism is going to soon seem alien.

>> No.56156

/mu/ and /pol/

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/pol/
/out/
/lit/
/vg/
/fit/

>> No.56287

>>50392
How did the US have huge growth in the 50s if the richest were taxed 90%?

>> No.56313

/ck/ and /vp/

>> No.56402

>>49099
/int/
/pol/
/lit/
/sci/
/trv/
/diy/

>> No.56422

>/int/

It fucking sucked.

>> No.56433

This sounds like /pol/'s little brother

Something terrible is about to happen to or on /pol/

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>>49482
Zimzam threads were great, but marked a turning point where the board got watered down further in shit. Great Gazan Happening was our peak that will never come again.
>tfw up until 4 in the morning on a class night, listening to hamas turkey and circular saws

>> No.56594

>>49099
/g/
[dubz4s]
/p/
/ck/
/k/

>> No.56678

I've always been interested in biz but knew better not to study it in university. You either get lucky or inherit it, with the former requiring a certain level of ass kissing I just wouldn't be able to do.

I'm actively seeking knowledge on trading though. Anyone can do it so long as you aren't inept and have a good start up fund.

>> No.56700

/b/ /vg/ /x/ /mlp/ are my main boards

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Mainly /x/, /ck/, and rarely /pol/ if they have anything interesting, which is usually only once every four months. I'm on /x/ for the spoopy stories, and for the UrbEx threads, as well as the occasional ARG or rare insightful discussion (re: rarer than /pol/). I'm on /ck/ just because I like cooking, and I've recently been interested in economics since I'm about to go into college, and thought it would be good to know about this stuff beforehand.
I browse /b/ infrequently, that place is such a shithole though.
>inb4 all of 4chan is shithole

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>>49337
>/lgbt/
You're being ironic, right?

>> No.56933

Pretty much lurk /fa/ /mu/ and /lit/. I check up on /pol/ once in a while. This board has been very interesting lately and a lot of shit posted here that can really help me. Might become lurker.

>> No.56935

/pol/ /g/ /v/ and /fit/ here.

>> No.56950

>>56874
You're being an dumbass right

>> No.57128

>>49099
Definitely /pol/, you can tell by the amount of frothing retards

>> No.57233

>>56950
Get out of here, fag.

>> No.57263

/mu/tant coming here for the first time ever.

>> No.58142

>>57233
This is probably going to be the board. All we need is /mlp/ talking about fucking pony money.

>> No.58156

/vg/ here, I'd like to have a board where we can discuss economic policy without rampant "FUCK STATIST" shitposting.

>> No.58171

/x/ here.
I'm ready to go full out ILLUMINATI DRONES on these fa/biz/lous fags

>> No.58210

>>58156
Looks like you're shit out of luck then

>> No.60093

I'm from from /pol/, /x/ and sometimes /fit/.

So far I love it here because we can have a higher level of discussion without the nazi/white supremacist spamming that is plaguing /pol/ .

>> No.60456

vee gee

if you go to (v( you should consider hanging yourself

>> No.60493

>/k/, /o/, /fit/, /pol/
>hopefully some intellectual talking without much goy or autism

>> No.61219

I shitpost in /sp/ all the time. I got a business idea and started coming here just for generic discussion and information

>> No.61491

/b/

you all fucking suck

>> No.61503

>>49099
/int/ and /fit/

Here because I like business. Consulting masterrace

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>>49099
>>>/lit/
>>>/fa/
>>>/mu/
here

>> No.61521

>>49099
>browsing [s4s]
>notice new board
>ebin
>jump in
>check em

>> No.64122

>>49337
fag.

>> No.64128

>>49099
Mainly /int/, but doing a masters in business & management atm.

I was on /pol/ mainly for the business stuff. I've been calling for a /biz/ board for ages

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>>49482
/pol/ will never be that good again ;_;

>> No.64140

>>50831
Raised and born in /pol/.

>> No.64143

/g/ /mu/ /fa/ /a/

But it has been shown that this board mostly comprises of /g/entoomen, with /pol/acks coming in second in amount

>> No.64148

>>64139

Newfags weren't even there for the Dorner sleepovers.

>> No.64155

/int/,/fit/ and form time to time /sp/

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>>64148
They missed Boston Bomber as well.

I've been on 4chang since 09, but that was my first Great Happening on /pol/

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This board is so slow, it's going to die soon, isn't it?

What Chinese cartoons are you guys currently watching?

Kill la Kill, Space Brothers, Samurai Flamenco, and Outbreak Company here.

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>there are people here, right now, IN THIS THREAD, who don't remember /new/

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I'm from /v/.

>> No.64349

>>64162
>dat pleb taste

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Why are there so many kids from /a/,/pol/ and /v/? My God.

>> No.64376

>>61512
Wow, you sound like a pretentious cunt.

kill yourself

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/jp/ and /a/

>> No.64467

/m/-/vr/ here.

I guess playing a cruel, unmerciful god with taxes in Romance of the Three Swords brought me here.

I mean, if we lived under constant kaiju attacks, would there be people smashing their houses under debt and blame it on a kaiju, would any insurance company go and cover that? Would it be considered fraud to attract the kaiju to smash the place instead of staging it all?

>> No.64480

>>64467

Forgot to add a question there,
how would a society in "Sentai" based economics would work with the examples I mentioned on last post?

>> No.64539

>>64467
I used to work for an insurance company. Generally there will be a clause in the product's contract (the product being the insurance) omitting war or act of war from being paid out.

>> No.64574

>>64539

I see, interesting actually, so, ok, there's this other thing, what about invasive species? as in small, able to dig, and weaken structures as a usual method with water/soiling/consumption, imagine rats on steroids, considered as what kind of damage? I mean if a constructor company is building in a zone with invasive urban species I imagine there's clauses for every type of shit like this.

>> No.64613

>>64574
that really depends
if it's a common occurrence, then it should be covered (otherwise what's the point of having insurance), but this will obviously be priced into the premiums.

So If you have kaiju wrecking shit up every day then it's gonna be damn expensive to insure against it.

>> No.64735

>>64613

Gotcha, I wonder how the rest of things would work in a setting like that. Maybe /tg/ could help around build some run to test economy in a world like that. Thanks, Insurance-bro for helping me around.

>> No.64822

>>49099
>Which board do you mainly post on?
/g/ obviously

>> No.64834

/g/ And /o/

>> No.64873

I usually post on /mlp/, /lgbt/ and /r9k/. I'm just here because I'm bored.

>> No.64879

>>64873
>/mlp/, /lgbt/ and /r9k/
kill it with fire

>> No.64884

>>64873
nice bait/10

>> No.64894

>>64884
I really wish I was joking.

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>>64894
oh god,nothing personal but please end yourself and make this a better world

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>>64912
K

>> No.64934

>>50791
I might be gay, but I'm a rich fag.

>> No.64994

/co/ and /wg/

Broke as fuck but have the potential to make six figures a month.

>> No.65043

>>49099

/v/ /lgbt/ /k/

I like and studied economics, worked in industry for a few years and run part of my dads business. This place is perfect for me.

>> No.65205

>Which board do you mainly post on?
/a/, but I lurk /g/ quite a bit.

>What attracted to you to /biz/?
I figured a new board would have a lot of good discussion going on from enthusiasts that didn't have a great place to talk about this stuff before. Especially before any board culture sets in. Would be a good opportunity to learn some stuff. Also, Isuna Hasekura got me a little interested in investing. Honestly, though, business really isn't my deal.

>> No.65932

>>49099
/a/ and /int/ here

I'm here because I love money, that's why I study economics

>> No.66151

On /a/ most of the time

As a HS Senior I figure I could get a bit of worthwhile advice on here that could help me as I prepare for life to bend me over and have its way with me

Of course, because of my impressionable age, I'll take everything here with a grain of salt

>> No.66605

>>64894

I never really got what the deal is with /lgbt/ and /pol/

Is it that /pol/ is secretly gay or that /lgbt/ is secretly right wing?

>> No.66713

>>66605
Both. It's effectively a love/hate relationship. Some Jews on /pol/ hate /lgbt/, some fags on /lgbt/ hate /pol/, but a minority like each other.

>mfw they are both my home boards
>mfw /lgbt/ is our greatest ally
>the enemy of my enemy is my friend

>> No.66828

>>66713

but... but... degeneracy..

/pol/, I'm questioning everything you ever taught me

>> No.66847

>>66713
>the enemy of my enemy is my friend
But this would mean that all men are my friends and all men are my enemy?

>> No.66894

I main /v/

I'm here because I'm a business major

>> No.66964

>>49099
>/co/
>/g/
>/v/
>/vg/
>/mlp/
>/diy/

>> No.70064

/jp/ /a/ and IRC

How are this /pol/, /pol/ hates /biz/ because we are everything they hate.

From "jew" to hendoism to NEETs to dogecoin, we are the corporations they hate. Because we can take it. For you.

>> No.70830

>>66713
BULLSHIT

/pol/ here, stop spamming that shit everywhere. /lgbt/ is not right wing, and /pol/ is not gay. It's like that time people tried shipping /mlp/ with /pol/

I don't give a shit if you call /pol/ faggots or whatever, but those comics and images that some /lgbt/er or whatever drew are pretty fucked up, I don't want to see porno of boards. :(

>> No.70858

used to browse /fit/. came back to 4chan after a year long lay off and saw this board.

>> No.70871

>>70830
Is there actually porn of those board characters? I know there's rule 34 and all, but I haven't seen any around here actually.

>inb4 someone decides to draw or make some because of this post

>> No.70904

>>70830

why so tsundere, /pol/-kun?

>> No.70920

i browse /a/ and /jp/ for fun. /tv/, /fa/, and /fit/ for interest. /int/ and /sp/ for the bants/

i'm here because i'm in corporate law and i majored in economics back in the day

>> No.70938

I'm from /sp/ and I came here because I work in the industry

>> No.71661

I lurk and post on /a/.

I'm here for the DOGE, and as of late the forex threads.

>> No.73985

/v/, /pol/, /int/, /a/, /g/, /k/ here.

Thank you m00t, for creating this new bastion of monetary light and economic reason in the sea of leftism and cultural marxism that is killing the interbutts.

>> No.73983

/fit/

>> No.74048

>>66713
/lgbt/ is terrible.the majority of that board is comprised of ugly trannies who complain about the same shit every day. No one gives a fuck about tumblr, or pronouns or your gender dysphoria.

>> No.74068

/toy/ /cgl/ /jp/ and /ck/ here

just thought i'd liven the place up a little

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/fit/ here looking to make some monetary gains

Bitches gonna be so wet when they see me with muscles AND moneys

>tfw no gf

>> No.74327

>>49099
/g/ /pol/ and /vp/

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/x/, /fit/, /ic/, /cgl/ here

not even lying

>> No.74651

>>49099

It's the business and finance people of /pol/ with less of "muh Jews"