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/rgt/ - Robinhood General Thread Dynashill !!z12mzVPjBfm Tue Dec 5 05:35:13 2017 No.4786172 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 05:38:17 2017 No.4786221 File: 89 KB, 796x1060, 1512124922747.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 05:39:13 2017 No.4786235 >>4786172 Maybe the bears will get their dues today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 06:12:40 2017 No.4786644 File: 331 KB, 477x456, 1508875989910.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So..........

>>	Dynashill !!z12mzVPjBfm Tue Dec 5 06:16:13 2017 No.4786690 File: 50 KB, 369x380, 1512277326867.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4786644 yes?

>>	Dynashill !!z12mzVPjBfm Tue Dec 5 06:36:45 2017 No.4786923 File: 8 KB, 194x259, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] baba already down 5 dollar in premarket.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 07:00:42 2017 No.4787208 >>4786923 Fuck I gotta sell it. Hot potato.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 07:21:07 2017 No.4787443 so did is tax bill already pass? or does it need more burocracy , or something?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 07:31:52 2017 No.4787599

>>4787443
https://www.investing.com/news/stock-market-news/stocks-us-futures-mixed-after-tech-selloff-952973

>Senate Republicans narrowly passed a bill in the early hours of Saturday morning, with 51 to 49 in favor of the tax overhaul. Retailers and banks are seen as benefiting more from the expected corporate tax cuts, which lead to a tech selloff on Monday. Congress still faces obstacles before the bill can become law and now must create a joint House and Senate bill, which will then be sent to President Donald Trump.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 07:39:57 2017 No.4787690 >>4787599 thanks. I hate this abnormal volatility.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 07:46:51 2017 No.4787778 >>4787690 It's easy to become comfortable with a certain type of market condition, all of us fall for it. But be careful not to become too complacent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 08:04:00 2017 No.4788013 File: 75 KB, 600x656, d04.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > be greedy when others a fearful!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 08:07:22 2017 No.4788069 File: 34 KB, 657x527, 1501530686584.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Brazilian indices are up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 08:10:17 2017 No.4788115 >>4786690 Why are you so smug these past two days?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 08:36:13 2017 No.4788504 >>4786172 kys shill nobody likes you and everybody here knows you're a brainlet. You're not a genius just because you gamble on UVXY all the time

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 08:50:27 2017 No.4788721 >>4788504 To be fair I am bearish on the S&P. It's in the middle of correcting back to 2600

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 08:56:13 2017 No.4788817 >>4788721 I'm bearish on tech in 2018 also. Looking to start moving out of it Q1. I own a lot of VOO and PYPL. Some AMD too. Rest of my stocks are banking or emerging markets. Not sure how to stay diversified yet when I move out of tech.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:00:05 2017 No.4788872 >>4788817 When you mean tech stocks, do you also refer to the whole semi sector, AI and automation as well ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:05:01 2017 No.4788941 File: 107 KB, 991x672, richautsm.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] BAC making me hard, I think we can get $30 today Too bad about my SQ tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:09:24 2017 No.4789010 is today a buy day for DNR? they look like they've hit their support (i think?)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:18:35 2017 No.4789144 >>4788872 All tech will be effected by the senate bill. Mass exodus incoming.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:18:50 2017 No.4789154

>>4788872
No, I think AI and automation will take a hit short run but still perform. It also depends on the specific ETFs and what those are made up of - if they have a lot of companies that aren't mostly automation, then I'd be less likely to be holding those. Also specific stocks could do well through that, look at Amazon through the 08 correction.

I also remember in 07/08, despite being mostly just concerned with college and not the stock market, that the market kinda went sideways for a while before correcting.

My biggest concern with tech right now is that for a while tech was well liked, now it's becoming a bit of the bad guy. Tax evasion, impending monopolies, and simply being on top puts a big target on its back. I think it will be the 21st Century equivalent of the antitrust era, with tech giants vilified and monopolistic and destroying jobs. On the tax front, the EU is already hammering them. Politically, after the Russian-election clusterfuck, government might put some kind of requirement to reveal who is buying ads starting a chain of broader transparency. Maybe that won't happen next year, but the start of it will.

And tech is expensive right now, only half the gain in the S&P 500 since Trump’s election has come from higher earnings. The rest is from price/earnings growth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:28:08 2017 No.4789292 >>4789154 This was a big block of text that doesnt address the alternative minimum tax for tech companies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:31:20 2017 No.4789336 Can someone redpill me on what the fuck is happening to the tech sector now/next year?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:32:34 2017 No.4789352 >>4789336 All the old rich people are taking their money and putting it in financials/retail because "muh taxes"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:33:33 2017 No.4789367 >>4789336 next year maybe down probably up over 20 years up more than you could imagine

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:33:36 2017 No.4789368

>>4789292
I was trying to be generic (putting that under "tax evasion") rather than specific since I was already wordy, but, yeah that's a big one absolutely.

>>4789336
Read above posts, but, I think right now there was a pretty big selloff of people waiting to see how the tax reform goes, and transfer into financials/retail as >>4789352 said.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:38:14 2017 No.4789421 >>4789368 which means its great to buy now since old boomers are functionally retarded and can't see the future I guess

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:40:22 2017 No.4789448

>>4789154
Thank you for your insight.

I am in BOTZ (for AI and automation) with 50% of its holdings in Japan and I believe most of them are really automation oriented.

I am also holding BAKA (semi) and this ETF is literally making me do what its name says. I may probably sell it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:43:08 2017 No.4789490 >>4789010 1.60's. It got downgraded yesterday. Honestly I may get back in today, I'd wait till the end of the day to make the decision plus crude is down again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:43:30 2017 No.4789498 Reminder that buying DXR and holding 2 more months will get you laid and cure your depression

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:43:46 2017 No.4789503 dgaz is the best fucking stock ive ever played such reliable dips and peaks. why the fuck are you not making easy money with dgaz?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:44:08 2017 No.4789507 >>4789448 >BAKA I mean S M H

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:45:05 2017 No.4789522 >>4789503 Because we aren't faggots. Dem spikes doee

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:45:11 2017 No.4789523 >>4789503 >dgaz is the best fucking stock ive ever played >dgaz >stock you must not have been playing for too long now imo

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:45:23 2017 No.4789524 >>4789498 this shit is so goddamned volatile, i cant imagine anyone putting anything significant into this stock

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:46:01 2017 No.4789532 pls tell me tech is recovering and this isn't just the dead cat meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:46:25 2017 No.4789538 srra. 100% gains every 3 months. next 3 years.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:47:00 2017 No.4789543 >>4789523 A stock is a type of security that signifies ownership in a corporation and represents a claim on part of the corporation's assets and earnings

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:47:19 2017 No.4789546 >>4789532 The sell off will probably continue till the end of the week. It'll come back, the same people selling are buying on the dip

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:48:13 2017 No.4789561

>>4789421
Maybe. I picked up a few tech shares during this little dip, but I don't plan to hold them for long.

>>4789448
I'd say pick a number where you sell off. You should have that for all your stocks. When it hits that, you sell. Might go up the next day, and you'll miss out on those gains, but that's what separates gamblers from investors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:48:30 2017 No.4789565 >>4789543 and you think DGAZ is a stock?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:50:33 2017 No.4789593 >>4789565 what would you call it? is velocityshares not the company you are buying stock from?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:50:59 2017 No.4789607 >>4789503 3x leveraged products are generally for rubes

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:51:45 2017 No.4789614 >>4789593 its an ETN what company are you buying a part of when you buy it?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:55:43 2017 No.4789672

>>4789614
an etn of velocityshares. so by extension arent you putting your faith in velocityshares? is the thing you are buyig not representative of velocityshares llc? isnt putting monetary faith in a company stock?

>>4789607
>>4789522
i dont understand, are reliable peaks and supports lame or something? do you dummies like losing money and gambling on memes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:55:57 2017 No.4789682 Getting too old for meme gambling. Bought a bunch of etfs/index trackers. Hello slow babby gainz. >>4789503 NICE. Adding to my HIMX for swings.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 09:56:14 2017 No.4789688 >>4789503 You might like the BRZU game too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:01:10 2017 No.4789758 >>4789672 its an inverse etn tracking gas bro... those reliable spikes aren't going to be reliable at some point. You are having begginers luck on it. Some people trade those all the time, but they aren't stocks, they track a commodity

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:03:29 2017 No.4789802 >>4789758 they seem to be reliable longer than they are unreliable. i dont call looking at reliable supports "beginners luck"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:03:56 2017 No.4789809 >>4789607 Lost so much in dwti and uwti back then. Fml. Anybody know some good stocks? Breaking even would be fking nice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:06:49 2017 No.4789849 >>4789672 if you really want to understand them read the white papers on how they are actually structured, the decay will generally kill you i'd recommend if you want to mess with that trash only daytrade never overnight

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:08:23 2017 No.4789870 >>4789802 how long have you been playing those spikes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:08:44 2017 No.4789874 File: 36 KB, 778x512, 1477244914586.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Im in the green on SQ! maybe I didnt fuck up falling for the dip meme

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:09:22 2017 No.4789882 >>4789874 I want to buy, but my butt is afraid

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:10:22 2017 No.4789899 >>4789882 yeah its kind of scary right now i bought in on Friday and I was down like $400 yesterday on it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:12:02 2017 No.4789924 >>4789870 since about mid september

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:13:02 2017 No.4789935 >>4789899 The timing would be right, but there is just so much uncertainty in the market atm. Across the market though, the stocks that got hit the hardest all bounced back today. SO idk...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:13:14 2017 No.4789941 EKSO!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:14:41 2017 No.4789961 >>4789924 and how long have you been trading?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:14:55 2017 No.4789968 > they didn't buy the tech dip

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:16:23 2017 No.4789987 >>4789968 I'm tempted to buy back but under an hour of market activity isn't enough for a clear picture. Maybe let's see what things are like on Monday.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:16:34 2017 No.4789991 >>4789968 >being down 12% on a large sum of portfolio that's tech >being hesitant to buy more Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:17:49 2017 No.4790009 >>4789987 it probably won't last and will get rekt again tommorow that's why you make your 5% and gtfo

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:20:15 2017 No.4790036 >>4789991 nigger so you were sitting there yesterday looking at something like MU being down 6% and your brain didn't go hmm.. rly makes me think or looking at TTWO being down fucking 9%

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:20:20 2017 No.4790037 Get in on UGAZ. Natural gas hit the bottom of its range again. Hold for a couple days until we hit $9

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:20:58 2017 No.4790049 >>4790009 Where are the 5% gains?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:22:34 2017 No.4790067 >>4790036 Hell yeah I did but there isn't enough trend for me personally to make a sound decision. No need to get all bent out of shape because people don't think the exact way you do breh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:23:04 2017 No.4790078 >>4790049 I got MU, EA, TTWO, ATVI, AMAT and FNSR

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:23:18 2017 No.4790083 >>4790036 I was too busy shopping for rope to look at my portfolio yesterday

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:23:43 2017 No.4790088 FNKO buy this

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:24:35 2017 No.4790099 >>4790088 Projected for $12

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:26:32 2017 No.4790132 >>4790088 >FNKO how do you know tho

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:27:54 2017 No.4790147 Funkos are just another toy fad

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:28:04 2017 No.4790150 >>4789961 since about mid september

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:28:44 2017 No.4790164 File: 45 KB, 800x799, fidget-spinner-red-min_800x.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4790088 like investing in pic related

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:30:05 2017 No.4790182 >>4789968 You want to get in after the bull trap. Lots of people will buy back in and people will sell at the new higher price. People arent going to buy back in until the joint tax reform changes are hashed out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:30:24 2017 No.4790186 >>4790132 >>4790147 >>4790164 But dem gainzzzzzz, look at the last month

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 10:34:21 2017 No.4790248

Shouldn't we be watching companies that have had bad news? Like this GE company had some bad news, and now it's low. So couldn't we just buy after the bad news and wait for the good news to bump it so we can sell instead of buying after the good news, and then watching it go down after the hype wears off?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:35:49 2017 No.4790262 >>4790248 it talks about doing that exact same thing in intelligent investor.. have you read it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:36:41 2017 No.4790280 >>4790248 crazy talk that could never work

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 10:37:08 2017 No.4790286 >>4790262 I don't read. Did they make a movie?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:37:39 2017 No.4790293 >>4790248 > GE > good news wait till it breaches it's 15 dollar minimum price target

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:37:45 2017 No.4790295 BLRX is rated for $3-4, thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:38:07 2017 No.4790305 File: 187 KB, 1200x1200, 1200px-Corvus-brachyrhynchos-001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4789941

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:38:47 2017 No.4790315 still holding RAD from 1.99 HURRRRNNRNRNRHASDOPJFA

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:39:03 2017 No.4790319 >>4790248 I don't want to buy some baby boomer meme stock So far everyone that has bought the "dip" on that has gotten rekt, like that guy that was calling us pussies for not buying it back at the $18s

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:39:44 2017 No.4790332 >>4790286 na, but you should read it sometime it gave me a different view of the market. I haven't finished it yet i just pick it up here and there and read a few pages whenever i have time. Im sure they have an audio book

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:40:28 2017 No.4790352 File: 94 KB, 866x900, 1512343519816.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4790315 ya dun gottsa sells low now der boy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:40:49 2017 No.4790360 >>4790315 Hows that "10x as much debt as equity" stock treating ya, huh?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:40:51 2017 No.4790362 >>4790315 Some chad that bought the real dip likd a month ago gave you his bags :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:41:04 2017 No.4790366 >>4790315 good luck lol Bought at 1.70, sold at 2.10 :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:42:31 2017 No.4790398 >>4790248 >"I was forced to confront a lot of sort of deeper questions about this company," says General Electric's new CEO John Flannery. "Why do we exist?"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:45:38 2017 No.4790462 File: 67 KB, 400x400, 1498382483760.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4790398

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:47:52 2017 No.4790500 File: 27 KB, 1432x379, RAD trade.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4790362 >>4790366 >>4790315 LMAO

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:51:51 2017 No.4790557 >>4790366 This. Bought when everyone on /biz/ was shilling it before it jumped, then sold when it stopped jumping

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:53:13 2017 No.4790588 >>4790557 I was one of those shills, it had a great setup and I remember when it finally broke that 1.69 resistance, it was a huge rush to buy.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:54:35 2017 No.4790609
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Hey I was the AMRS faggot newbie here that dumped some $ into AMRS.

I want to continue the dilution talk...

i wrote this yesterday night time.

>Yo, I am that dumb shit dude from earlier.

>I looked through the annual 2016 and looked >at the major risk factors, and looked at the >convertible shares. Honestly, this is getting so >confusing, you need to spend an entire day to >really grasp WTF is going on with their debt >financing.

>Overall, I went back to their quarterly >reporting, and they reported on the debt >financing.

>Many of it is actually paid back in cash, or >PIK. Only one debt instrument is convertible >to common shares.

>I am a Cad CPA, and I forgot quite a bit of my >accounting stuff, as I mainly do regulation >work.

>But they provide a diluted EPS, and it isn't far >off from the non-diluted.

>Hence, might be some dilution, but we won't >know for sure until maturity. and it doesn't >seem to be very significant.

>I would definitely monitor the year over year >common shares outstanding to see how >much dilution occurred.

>All in all, I think the business strategy for this >company is quite good. and i kind of liking it. I >wish I had more time digging into the >financials and reading it all, it is such a >complex company.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:55:07 2017 No.4790619 >>4790588 i was shilling it too. Some trades are just so fucking obvious and some reason people miss them and then buy after it already made its run

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:56:42 2017 No.4790650 >>4790609 Since you're a CPA, could you give an analysis of AXTI's fundamentals?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:58:06 2017 No.4790674 >>4790619 Yeah buddy. We made some money, feels good man.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:58:54 2017 No.4790688 These AMD bags are heavy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 10:59:43 2017 No.4790701 >>4790619 Also, MRNS later this week or early next week breh.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:02:03 2017 No.4790739

>>4790609
the dilution isn't coming just from the notes that are due.. it is coming from convertable preferred shares. its not going to show up in the section of debts, its not debt that is diluting it's the preferred shares...

read the financing activites on their cash flow statement look how many convertable preffered shares they've issued.. go down some more and it will tell you how much $ those prefs will convert into.

There is dilution with AMRS half of their Q talks about it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:03:05 2017 No.4790754 I bought PayPal yesterday and it's moving

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:04:06 2017 No.4790779 >>4790688 ...and I sold them. I think it will eventually go back up, but, there are better things I can do with the money right now. And I bought only a small amount at 11 so wasn't too bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:05:45 2017 No.4790808 First

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:06:21 2017 No.4790823 >>4790754 nice trade you have a price target in mind?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:07:56 2017 No.4790857 >>4789507 >smell my ham I shiggy diggy hope you guys don't do this

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:08:26 2017 No.4790864 >>4790701 its not really my type of trade to be honest

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:08:45 2017 No.4790871 File: 6 KB, 207x243, 550.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4790808 >First

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:10:50 2017 No.4790914 DIS is buying part of FOX https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/05/disney-and-fox-are-closing-in-on-deal-could-be-announced-next-week--sources.html This is gonna tank my DIS isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:12:35 2017 No.4790945 >>4790914 probably I bought AET yesterday because they're getting bought out by CVS for $207 a share and it still tanked anyway

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:13:10 2017 No.4790963 >>4790914 >DIS is buying part of FOX The jews at work desu senpai

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:13:36 2017 No.4790971

>>4790739
Are you talking about this?
page 58
http://investors.amyris.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1171843-17-2148&CIK=1365916

>Conversion of our outstanding convertible promissory notes or the exercise of outstanding warrants to purchase our common stock will dilute the ownership interest of existing stockholders or may otherwise depress the market price of our common stock.

The conversion of some or all of our outstanding convertible promissory notes or the exercise of some or all of outstanding warrants to purchase our common stock will dilute the ownership interests of existing stockholders. In particular, the exercise of certain warrants which have a $0.01 per share exercise price may significantly dilute the economic ownership interest of our existing stockholders. In addition, any sales in the public market of the shares of our common stock issuable upon such conversion or exercise could adversely affect prevailing market prices of our common stock. Furthermore, the existence of our outstanding convertible promissory notes (including anti-dilution conversion price adjustment provisions contained therein which could lead to additional shares of common stock being issuable upon conversion) and warrants may encourage short selling by market participants because the anticipated conversion of such notes into, or exercise of such warrants for, shares of our common stock could depress the market price of our common stock

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:16:38 2017 No.4791047 File: 4 KB, 225x225, 26.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >NAK >AMRS lel

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:17:02 2017 No.4791056 File: 38 KB, 480x480, 23969928_1867979223513129_8716614398992449536_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4790945 DIS is already down 3% AAAAAAAAAAA

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:18:25 2017 No.4791077

>>4790971
look into their convertable preffered shares aswell.. im not going to keep doing circles with you.

There is dilution from both their convertable notes AND from their convertable preffered.

I don't know why you are fighting this so much, it's in the filings AMRS is diluting and will be diluting. I cant keep explaining to you that there is dilution. you aren't going to convince me there isn't when i am reading the filing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:18:56 2017 No.4791085 >>4790754 >>4790823 picked up more cheap PYPL also. Maybe good for 75 again?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:19:49 2017 No.4791104

>>4791077
>I don't know why you are fighting this so much, it's in the filings AMRS is diluting and will be diluting. I cant keep explaining to you that there is dilution. you aren't going to convince me there isn't when i am reading the filing.

I am a diff anon fk'er... i am determining whether to sell this shit or not right now.

Since their POS financial statement and annual report is 300 pages long and fk'ing a shit mess, it is hard to understand everything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:20:15 2017 No.4791114 >>4791085 you mean 85

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:20:40 2017 No.4791124 >>4791047 Q4 is almost over and they still haven't announced anything yet kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:20:52 2017 No.4791128 >>4791085 sounds reasonable

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:26:18 2017 No.4791240

>>4791104
sorry i just don't see how hard it is to understand.

The company has money to operate. They received that money from investors that bought convertable preferred shares and convertable notes. When these big investors start converting into common stock they will start dumping into the market. This will screw over common share holder value.

The company is trying to grow obviously but they aren't going to get $100 million in funds by dumping stock straight to the market when the avg volume is under 500,000 so they had to get the funding through other sources so they issued notes and prefs. which will eventually convert into common shares.. thus.. dilution

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:26:34 2017 No.4791244 File: 4 KB, 361x139, download.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who else getting JUSTed right now?

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 11:32:39 2017 No.4791382 Almost time to enter that S&P short.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:33:52 2017 No.4791404 This video taught me everything I know about trading. https://youtu.be/vk8v3hOT5iY

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:34:22 2017 No.4791413 >>4791404 >taking advice from a woman kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:34:30 2017 No.4791415 >>4791382 i think lows for the year are in, slow 3 pt grind mode per day for the /es about to be in effect

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:35:07 2017 No.4791427 >>4791404 lol i remember watching that and thinking.. wtf.. i do the same thing >>4791413 i have a very similar strategy as her..

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:36:12 2017 No.4791451

>>4791104
>>4791240
Looking at it, a huge majority of the convertible shares are owned by a partner, they wont be a problem.

There are also some common convertible that will cause some dilution.

over all, no. doesn't look like any kind of significant dilution coming any time soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:37:56 2017 No.4791494 File: 858 KB, 480x266, 213.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4791404 >hover over link >millennial attention whore nope.jpg

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 11:38:48 2017 No.4791510 >>4791404 I forgot I'm boycotting Jewtube. Is there a book?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:39:18 2017 No.4791522 >>4791382 Seems like all available money is being put towards pumping the Nasdaq. Dow's not doing much.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:42:47 2017 No.4791597

>>4791451
>doesn't look like any kind of significant dilution coming any time soon.
LMAO

More than half the Q talks about dilution

>>4791451
>Looking at it, a huge majority of the convertible shares are owned by a partner, they wont be a problem.
their "partner" is going to be banking on it. Im pretty sure some AMRS management has some convertable investments elsewhere and are considered "partners" to another corporation. Thats how these people operate, they have their hands everywhere when it comes to investments and corporations

AMRS is diluting and will be diluting. ITS IN THE FILINGS!!!!

the truth is in the filings! You can't lie to me, you might be able to fool some people in here to think that AMRS isn't diluting or won't dilute but you aren't going to fool me.

AMRS buyers beware.. Dilution to come.. HEAVY dilution

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:43:05 2017 No.4791603 >>4790248 I bought on AAOI's bad news after the massive dip. Good news never came and I'm still in the red.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:44:57 2017 No.4791642 >>4791510 >boycotting YouTube I've been wondering why GOOGL has been so stagnant

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:46:42 2017 No.4791677 I bought back into tech. I regret doing so already.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:47:15 2017 No.4791691 Fug should I still go into dpw after that surge with the bitcoin mining announcement?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:47:48 2017 No.4791703 >>4791597 Can anyone tell me what dilution is? I'm new, I know.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:48:22 2017 No.4791713 >>4791677 buy high sell low

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:48:22 2017 No.4791714 >>4790099 Well I bought in when it hit the market so I'm up huge

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:49:26 2017 No.4791744 >>4791713 >buy high sell low This is still pretty low if we are truly rebounding.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:49:53 2017 No.4791750 >>4791677 tech is doomed. It's a fad, really

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:50:24 2017 No.4791760 >>4791714 must be nice m8

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:50:39 2017 No.4791766

>>4791703
its when they put more shares into the float (raising supply of shares) its like buying whole milk adding a bunch of water to it and still trying to sell it as whole milk

AMRS is diluting.

Everytime i see a shiller of AMRS in here i will make sure to remind them.

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 11:51:20 2017 No.4791782 >>4791703 It's like inflation. They release more shares devaluing the shares in existence.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:51:27 2017 No.4791783 >>479008 "no"

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:52:00 2017 No.4791796
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>>4791240

I think you are right, but trying to determine how much dilution left is hard.

The best I could find is this, interesting to see how 206,130,282 became 274,108,808 common stock outstanding.

But from their debt instrument table, seems only the 9.5% convertible notes that mature Apr 19 is the last convertible instrument.

You need to use terminology that's in their financials, or I can't find it. I only see permissionary notes, purchase warrants at 0.01 from my search.

But there based on this picture, you can see that they added 67,978,526 shares for 2016 and paid in capital of $990,870,000 for 2016, which is $14.576 per share. and this is pre-split?

ok got to get back to work now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:53:09 2017 No.4791813 is AAOI a meme company?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:53:22 2017 No.4791818 File: 14 KB, 184x272, 002.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4790164 waiting on the fidget spinner to moon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:54:54 2017 No.4791859 the absolute fucking state of AMD investors

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:55:50 2017 No.4791881 File: 196 KB, 1084x611, amd goldman.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4791859

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:56:26 2017 No.4791891

>>4791859
>AMD and its partners quietly began selling Radeon RX 560 cards with fewer compute units and stream processors than originally advertised, without changing the name or otherwise identifying the lesser-powered model in any way. But here’s the kicker: The Radeon RX 560s you can find in stores are a mix of the full-fat version and the cut-down version. Ick.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:56:37 2017 No.4791896 >>4791597 >>4791796 >>4791766 Hold on, ill give you guys a final answer in a few minutes. so far it looks like you guys are completely overestimating the gloom and doom.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 11:58:11 2017 No.4791924

>>4791796
>trying to determine how much dilution left is hard.
no. its not.

It will continue for a very long time. It takes a very long time to cash out that much with rule 144a it will slow the amount of dilution at one time, but this will just drag the dilution on longer.

Could be another year of dilution.

>>4791796
>But from their debt instrument table, seems only the 9.5% convertible notes that mature Apr 19 is the last convertible instrument.
you should look into the convertable prefferred shares aswell

Convertable prefs. are more toxic than notes imho

they 500,000,000 authorized shares and have only issued around 42,000,000.....let that sink in when you think there isn't much dilution left.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:00:22 2017 No.4791967 >>4791896 >so far it looks like you guys are completely overestimating the gloom and doom. im just not buying it, i see more negatives than positives.. if there is a buyout those preferred will take that opportunity to sell their dilutive shares.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:00:54 2017 No.4791982 File: 51 KB, 645x729, 3Q7iXtQ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > Be greedy when others are fearful muh Buffet said! t. AMD stocktwits nigger #467192141

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:01:29 2017 No.4791989

>>4791924
>they 500,000,000 authorized shares and have only issued around 42,000,000.....let that sink in when you think there isn't much dilution left.

I can only answer a partial of this for now...

From my understanding, authorized shares means how much outstanding shares can be issued overall. What is outstanding is how many is actually issued at the moment.

That doesn't mean they have 500,000,000 shares outstanding.

Correct me if i am wrong, but been a long time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:01:42 2017 No.4791996 >not buying DIS >not seeing huge gains june 2018

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:01:51 2017 No.4791999 >>4791766 >>4791782 Thanks guys. Why would they do this? Seems like cutting a pie into six pieces or eight pieces, it's still the same amount of pie.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:02:44 2017 No.4792020

>>4791796
>>4791924
Ok first things first.

There are 43M ordinary shares outstanding today. John Doer and Vivo together did not convert another ~7M shares,when they will there will be 50M share outstanding.
Another 40M will be added if:
1) all convertible notes convert
2)all warrants convert(probably anti dilution warrants as well).

What will happen if all convertible notes and warrants convert(excluding anti dilution warrants)? Amyris will be almost debt-less and will have another 100M$ from warrant conversion

So far, Not bad news.
Ill continue in a few.....

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:02:53 2017 No.4792023 >>4791996 What happens in June 2018?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:04:31 2017 No.4792064 >>4791999 It's not the same pie. The company typically sells the new shares so it raises money. Healthy dilution can be a good thing. Unhealthy dilution gets you DRYS

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:04:39 2017 No.4792070 CUR is mooning

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:04:49 2017 No.4792075 >>4792023 Avengers movie?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:04:59 2017 No.4792082 File: 279 KB, 808x805, 1498135538061.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AAAAA EVERYTHING IS DOWN

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:05:10 2017 No.4792085

>>4791999
read>>4791240
its a normal part to funding a company, some companies can't just walk into a bank and get a loan they have to find other sources of funding and in doing so they have to give the people giving them money something in return
It is completely normal for companies to dilute their shares, its just how long they do it and how fast of a rate they do it.

>>4791989
>That doesn't mean they have 500,000,000 shares outstanding.
correct. they do not have 500,000,000 outstanding, but thats how many shares they can issue, therefore.. more dilution coming

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:05:24 2017 No.4792089

>>4792020
The convertible notes are old debt, around 130M$, converts to stocks only at 17$/share to 104$/share.

Warrants convert at 5.3$/share to 9.4$/share.(anti-dilution warrants convert for free if amyris dilute under 4.26$/share and 6.3$/share.

Still not bad at all.

continuing....

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:06:27 2017 No.4792114 $husa going to absolutely take off tomorrow Get it while it's cheap

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:07:25 2017 No.4792130 >>4792114 based on?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:07:39 2017 No.4792133 >>4792114 What makes you say this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:07:53 2017 No.4792137 >>4792020 >>4792089 why do you ignore the convertable preferred? the most toxic part of their dilution. Why are you trying so fucking hard to twist the filings to try and make it sound good? there is dilution and will be dilution. PERIOD.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:08:38 2017 No.4792153 >>4792133 :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:08:58 2017 No.4792160 File: 87 KB, 653x726, nak.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any day now

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:09:04 2017 No.4792164 >>4792137 what are you talking about? I posted like 3 times dudes, let me read the fucking thing and finish first before ya get all crazy with me

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:09:46 2017 No.4792172 >>4792114 fuck you and fuck that faggot company nobody listen to him

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:10:15 2017 No.4792181 >>4792137 >why do you ignore the convertable preferred? the most toxic part of their dilution. do you have a snippet of their disclosure on this? this is a 300 page annual and it is hard to find info on it.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:11:45 2017 No.4792223

>>4792164
i just don't see why people keep saying its not that bad but yet more than half their Q talks about dilution.

Im sorry, im just not going to fall for the shilling, obviously the shillers are missing key factors that effect stock price

>>4792181
Its really not hard to find if you actually just read the Q..

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:15:27 2017 No.4792287 >>4792085 So to be sure I'm reading this right, some of AMRS' value is in the stock shares of their creditors rather than their own stock?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:17:10 2017 No.4792339 File: 412 KB, 1266x1433, Scan0010.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mornin

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:17:42 2017 No.4792358 >>4792339 fuck out of here boomer

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:17:42 2017 No.4792359
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>>4792223

Ok, you may be right, but I honestly don't know what you are talking about. You need to guide me to what disclosure section you are talking about.

page 175 of their annual report:

As of December 31, 2016 and December 31, 2015, the Company had zero shares of convertible preferred stock outstanding.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:17:54 2017 No.4792364

>>4791114
I think it'll bounce back up, I think it could potentially eventually get to 85, PYPL is a fantastic company - but I'm the anon earlier that is a bit bearish on tech. I also think this data breach might hold them down a bit until it fleshes out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:19:26 2017 No.4792393 >>4792364 Don't get me wrong, I agree and I'm bearish on tech right now as well because of the uncertainty. I'm bagholding at 78, I bought the day before the QQQ sell off. I'm hoping for 85, the company has fantastic fundamentals.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:19:43 2017 No.4792399 >>4791982 I've switched over to day trading AMD and am making bank so far this week. Pussies never profit.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:23:13 2017 No.4792465

>>4792223
>>4792181
Ok, I understand, im not shilling, I don't know shit about this company. Well, now I do. Ive just seen people arguing about it for months...

OK
Heres what I got....
>>4792020
>>4792089

After everything I said above, and taking your point into account.
>>4792137

Convertible preferred mostly all ALREADY converted,
Theres maybe 7M left to be converted by Vivo and Doerr.
Heres the thing, theyre both in the BOD and are long term investors Amrys.

Over all, I think they've made smart moves and are in a better spot than they've been in it looks like 10+ years.
Their debt was toxic and they attacked it in order to survive.
Looking at what their SP was when they were in much shittier position, looking at the TA, and looking at the direction of Rev vs exp, and profitability coming next year... I approve.
a surprisingly good buy in this shit hole board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:23:42 2017 No.4792474 So is this daytrading or what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:24:30 2017 No.4792492 File: 3 KB, 250x250, sad_face_emoji_stamp_large[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4792358 o-oh kay...

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:24:32 2017 No.4792493

>>4792359
you should read the most current Q

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1365916/000117184317007177/f10q_111317p.htm

pg 7 look at all the proceeds form sell of conv. prefs. under financing activites on the cash flow
im not going to spoon feed you the details on those you can look for yourself

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:25:15 2017 No.4792501 >>4792465 looking into rev even more 2018, If they will see 260M+ revenue and progress on new products, share holders will probably be rewarded. Im going to buy some

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:25:52 2017 No.4792516 >>4792474 We're all Greek shippers here. Trust us with you money :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:25:57 2017 No.4792518 >>4792492 Ignore the NEET, boomers own this thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:27:11 2017 No.4792544 SN close to a breakout... if anyone is interested in putting it on their watch list

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:27:37 2017 No.4792557 >>4792492 >>4792518 This. NEETS are lazy millennials that can't even get a job. Boomers know hard work and smart investing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:27:51 2017 No.4792561 File: 547 KB, 1920x1080, drys-longboat-pepe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4792516 had to be done.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:28:13 2017 No.4792569 >>4792544 sorry to add to that its on the 5min chart

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:28:18 2017 No.4792571 >>4792518 NEETs lost all their money on AMD and NAK. A shame really. Just us Colgate investors left. Brush your teeth.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:29:45 2017 No.4792607
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>>4792465
>Looking at what their SP was when they were in much shittier position, looking at the TA, and looking at the direction of Rev vs exp, and profitability coming next year... I approve.

Ok, I guess I am not too freaking out about my purchase in this stock anymore.

the anon mentioned preferred convertible shares, but in their 2016 annual report, it states they have ZERO. So I am not sure what he's referring to, I think it should be cleared up. Because that caused me a lot of confusion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:31:35 2017 No.4792652 >>4792607 >but in their 2016 annual report, it states they have ZERO. how about you read the current one https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1365916/000117184317007177/f10q_111317p.htm the old one looks better than the new one

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:33:20 2017 No.4792699 >>4792557 >tfw im a lazy neet millennial that hasn't worked in a month

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:33:23 2017 No.4792700 >>4792607 You and me both bud, I'm in 22k deep in amrs Asking questions is good, but be more confident! Most of this shit is a mind game.

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 12:33:36 2017 No.4792706 >>4792571 NAK dont always be like partnership news is but it do.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:34:55 2017 No.4792741
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>>4792518
>>4792557
>>4792571
But I'm not a boomer or a neet. I just love the market and appreciate both value investing and technical analysis. I love you guys too.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:35:29 2017 No.4792753
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>>4792493
>https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1365916/000117184317007177/f10q_111317p.htm

ok, this this is pretty much nothing.

Dec to Sept 2017 they added 20,488,191 common stock with paid in capital of $1,049,299,000 which is equivalent to $51.214 per share of capital paid in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:38:08 2017 No.4792802 File: 26 KB, 472x461, 1410066570563.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4792741 i've never done any sort of analysis in life i unironically just gamble on random companies on earnings and buy the dip on meme tickers spammed on here and reddit

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:38:42 2017 No.4792813 >>4792652 >the old one looks better than the new one see my answer on >>4792753

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:39:45 2017 No.4792831 >>4792700 >Most of this shit is a mind game. see my answer on >>4792753

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:39:53 2017 No.4792836

>>4792137
>>4792465
>>4792359
Guys, I just want to say Bravo.
Rarely do we get any kind of decent DD with research and discussion on this board.
I wish more guys would try it.

Disagreeing leads to knowledge, so it's all useful for gathering information.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:40:11 2017 No.4792847

>>4792753
why are you trying convince me to by the dilutive crap?

you obviously don't know what to look for

If you wan't to buy the stock and give money to all the bigger investors selling their discounted shares to you be my guest, im staying away, and ill remind people in here every once in awhile that the shillers never did much homework on their purchase and are about to get dumped on.

go ahead and buy it, it's your money.. soon to be someone elses

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:40:37 2017 No.4792857 >>4792706 I love my NAK shares and won't apologize for that. I noticed it is getting close to being on sale again today.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:41:47 2017 No.4792882 >>4792836 my type of post. finally someone understands.. the back and forth debating is what stimulates our brains and allows us to learn from other perspectives. Nice post anon

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:43:32 2017 No.4792908

>>4792847
>why are you trying convince me to by the dilutive crap?

No i am not, I am just a dumb ass shit anon that listened some some other anon to buy AMRS. I am $5k deep in this shit.

and then you came in here saying there's some crazy ass dilution going on, so I wanted to make sure myself how bad it is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:44:28 2017 No.4792926 >>4792882 Yeah man, but you kind of just turned the corner to negative town with your last post. You disregarded the last positive DD message the smart dude posted and are saying "this is shit and I'm gonna tell everyone" again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:45:19 2017 No.4792944 >>4792802 Solid trading edge right there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:45:40 2017 No.4792953 BGFV shill is really quiet all of a sudden :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:46:09 2017 No.4792963 TRXC

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:46:15 2017 No.4792968 >>4792802 better than 90% of the traders in here tbqh

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:46:18 2017 No.4792971 File: 124 KB, 499x344, 161138148.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >AMD

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:46:36 2017 No.4792983

>>4792847
>ill remind people in here every once in awhile that the shillers never did much homework on their purchase and are about to get dumped on.

Did you ignore me completely here?
>>4792465

I was taking you seriously, and gave you serious research with a serious response.
with 98% of the shit posted here being garbage, we have hours of debate on a stock that turns out to actually have lots of potential and youre gonna call this one out every time it comes up?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:49:06 2017 No.4793021

>>4792836
>Dec to Sept 2017 they added 20,488,191 common stock with paid in capital of $1,049,299,000 which is equivalent to $51.214 per share of capital paid in.

Dude, I did my calculation wrong, the paid in capital is much lower. but I don't think the dilution is significant enough to cause a large concern imo.

I just hope some of the other anon who posted in here is right that this will go up soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:50:39 2017 No.4793047 >>4792971 getting BTFO on news https://www.pcworld.com/article/3240264/components-graphics/amd-quietly-radeon-rx-560-graphics-cards-worse.html

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:52:37 2017 No.4793074 >>4793047 They had positive news not too long ago: https://finance.yahoo.com/m/2298f009-cf21-3c87-9e1f-6bdff33e8a56/amd-announces-first-public.html even that can't save them LMAO

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:52:37 2017 No.4793075 >>4793021 Could take a while, but worth the wait. problem is, you don't want to wait till next year to buy in cause it can take off at any point. especially with the frequent deals

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:53:53 2017 No.4793098

>>4793021
>>Dec to Sept 2017 they added 20,488,191 common stock with paid in capital of $1,049,299,000 which is equivalent to $51.214 per share of capital paid in.

In essence, just do the basic shit... $1,049,299,000 capital paid in / 38,762,112 shares outstanding = $27.07

this shit got potential, if it goes $27.

we can even add the preferred shares of 56,390 into it.

$1,049,299,000 capital paid in / (38,762,112 common + 56,390 preferred) = $27.03

4 cents dilution per share.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:54:55 2017 No.4793117 >>4792926 His DD is completely ignoring all the dilution, the subject of which we are talking. He says one thing but the filings say another.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:55:59 2017 No.4793133 >>4792953 what ever happend to that guy that was short? you think he covered by now?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:56:20 2017 No.4793138

>>4793098
Yeah, I like it.
Looking at the future of synthetic biology too, as someone suggested yesterday, looks fit to explode.
looks like no one is even close - competition wise, all other competitors are still trying to come up with molecules while AMRS is already making money off of already produced molecules

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:57:29 2017 No.4793155 >>4793117 are.. are you kidding me, you just completely ignored me man. I looked into what you were talking about and gave you a clear answer.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:57:59 2017 No.4793165

>>4792983
>we have hours of debate on a stock that turns out to actually have lots of potential and youre gonna call this one out every time it comes up?
yes.

Im not sure who you heard that this stock has potential from, but they probably didn't do much research on it either. classic case of the blind leading the blind.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 12:58:58 2017 No.4793182 >>4793133 i think he said he covered. rip

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:01:24 2017 No.4793227 >>4793165 I just did hours... Hours of DD to help you guys answer questions, because I have a lot of experience in reading financial sheets. and now you're being butt hurt because I disagreed with you, even though you asked some good questions.

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 13:02:07 2017 No.4793240

>>4793074

Positive news is bad, that's what sets the high, it just goes down after the positive news.

>>4793047
This news is going to set it's new low, which will give us an opportunity to get into the eternal meme and profit. This isn't rocket surgery guys.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:02:07 2017 No.4793241 Nice 6% dip on DRYS. Gonna scoop up some shares for easy dip tendies

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:03:10 2017 No.4793264 They need to get rid of the chink CEO

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:03:17 2017 No.4793266

>>4793155
we are talking about dilution.. are you talking about your post that has to do with revenue??

none of that matters.. the share structure does.

>>4793138
>looks fit to explode.
itll be met with dilution.. they will dilute into strength because thats when there is the most liquidity

I am talking about the stock price and the dilution into the float.

I am not talking about how well the company is doing or how well it is doing.. im talking about what is going to happen to stock price.

If you think that just because a company does good the stock price will follow, i don't think you've been in stocks long.

I didn't respond to your post because you seem to be stuck on the fact that if the company does better the stock price will. That is not always the case.

I am talking share structure here! share structure!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:04:34 2017 No.4793296 >>4793266 NO dude. HERE HERE >>4792465

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:05:06 2017 No.4793308 >>4792802 50/50 chance on each play

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:05:23 2017 No.4793316 First

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:06:41 2017 No.4793342

>>4793264
if you are talking about AMD

that chink CEO is the one who helped turn that company around. Look back to when she became CEO and how the stock was behaving then.. i remember because i used to trade it alot.

That chink saved AMD and just in time for the crypto boom

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:06:50 2017 No.4793345 >>4793241 >not refinancing your home and doubling down on DRYS

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:06:52 2017 No.4793348

>>4792557
>Implying Boomers aren’t lazy
>Implying the economy isn’t going to crash within the next 20 years because of worthless boomers

Lmao. Keep complaining about millennials grandpa, and keep ignoring the fact that your generation is the worst thing to ever happen to this country

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:07:38 2017 No.4793359 >>4793308 in a bull market its 60/40 :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:08:14 2017 No.4793371 >>4793296 they have been issueing more convertable prefferred man.. its in the damn filings.. I don't get it.. why don't you just read the filings? you are wasting my time. AMRS is diluting and will be diluting. It's in the filings.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:14:36 2017 No.4793479 >>4792963 Small partnership announced today http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20171205005952/en/InstruSafe

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:15:25 2017 No.4793494
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>>4793348
I'm not a boomer, I was just being sarcastic as everyone else but you figured out.

>Implying the economy isn’t going to crash within the next 20 years because of worthless boomers
If it makes it 20 years, that would be fantastic. My guess, since interest rates are likely to start going up now, is it might be in the next 1-5. Can't completely blame that on the boomers though, pretty natural cycle.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:21:07 2017 No.4793595 >>4788941 I feel safe about SQ, still holding at 38.45 buy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:25:19 2017 No.4793663 File: 162 KB, 931x661, DRYS7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4793241 good boy!

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:28:18 2017 No.4793720
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>>4793371

ok dude, it is in the filing, and if you read the conversion prices for the preferred shares, it is currently higher than the stock price.

I think the dilution is minimal. lots of this preferred share fundings want this company to succeed and set a conversion price higher than current stock price.

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 13:29:05 2017 No.4793738 >>4793494 Why are they going to raise interest rates? Is the FED trying to crash the fucking economy under Trump?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:31:38 2017 No.4793781 File: 82 KB, 501x585, 706.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4793738 nigga fuck the economy BAC and my warrants will go to the moooooooooooooon if interest rates rise

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:33:08 2017 No.4793806 >>4793781 >nigga Using nigger vernacular >>>/out >>>/out/ >>>/out/

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:40:12 2017 No.4793946

>>4793738
It wants to get the economy out of a possible liquidity trap. That's when families and businesses hoard cash instead of spending it. Low interest rates don't give them much incentive to invest except maybe in the stock market (since where else do you put it at such low interest rates?). When there are more options, there will likely be less people putting money into the stock market. They might diversify differently.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:42:34 2017 No.4793996 >>4793738 >>4793946 I should add that raising them too fast can cause serious problems, which is one reason why who was picked for the Fed was so important.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:43:54 2017 No.4794021 What dividend stocks are you guys playing this month?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:47:07 2017 No.4794086

>>4793996
when inflation gets going they won't have a choice fortunately for them globalization and the internet have had massive deflationary effects

the debt structures of the western world can't handle an interest rate increase, that's where the next big crisis will be

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:48:39 2017 No.4794122

>>4793371
>I don't get it.. why don't you just read the filings? you are wasting my time. AMRS is diluting and will be diluting. It's in the filings.

also if you are confused about the par value $0.0001 per share, it is just a standard term used in all contracts I believe. I don't think it means they buy it at $0.0001 per share.

go look at TSLA or APPL or GOOG they have that PAR per share rate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:49:20 2017 No.4794133 >>4794086 You see this impending bomb? https://www.fool.com/investing/2017/11/19/wall-streets-hottest-loan-product-borrowing-agains.aspx

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:52:00 2017 No.4794197 >>4794021 your mom

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:52:47 2017 No.4794216 >>4794197 don't forget $PNUS

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:53:12 2017 No.4794225 >>4794133 Oh god, isn't this just like the fucking stock insurance shit that happened in the 90's?

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 13:56:23 2017 No.4794276 >>4794133 Wait can I take a loan against my portfolio and use it to grow my portfolio and take another loan against that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:56:27 2017 No.4794277 >>4794133 >buy stocks >take out a loan backed by those stocks >buy more stocks >take out a loan backed by THOSE stocks fractional reserve investing here I come

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:56:49 2017 No.4794282
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WHY WONT MY DXR BUY ORDER FILL??!!

FU ROBINHOOD

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Anonymous Tue Dec 5 13:57:22 2017 No.4794297

>>4794225
I never read about the stock insurance. I have no idea. It just sounds like a huge bomb. I can't mind many articles on it though, which is the crazy thing. So either that article blows it out of proportion, or it's not getting any coverage..

>>4794276
>>4794277
I think you can put it toward something else like a house or line of credit, probably not more stocks. I don't know though.

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 13:57:52 2017 No.4794308 >>4794277 I see we think alike.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:00:34 2017 No.4794361 >>4794133 Isnt this just margin

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:00:48 2017 No.4794366
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>>4794225
>>4794276
>>4794276
>>4794308
https://www.wellsfargoadvisors.com/why-wells-fargo/products-services/lending/securities-based.htm

>Borrowing doesn’t have to disrupt your investment strategy.
>Securities-based lines of credit have been growing in popularity. >They’re flexible and often relatively easy to get.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:02:23 2017 No.4794398 >>4794277 congrats you are now a bank

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:03:43 2017 No.4794426 >>4794133 eh, this has been around forever cant wait till all the new crypto retard millionaires start borrowing against their holdings

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:05:00 2017 No.4794454

>>4794277
As long as risk is appropriately advertised on these investments it’s fine.

That’s what credit default swaps are and what helped burst the housing bubble. The difference there was these swaps were thought to be safe investments when they were actually insanely risky

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:05:11 2017 No.4794458 >>4794426 With the stock market so far up, I bet a lot more people are doing it. What happens when we get a correction to all those loans? (I'm not being smug, I'm literally asking)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:05:42 2017 No.4794469 >>4793371 >>4793720 Wait a second man. I'm not seeing anything. Are you talking about the promisory notes to ginko? That is not dilution. That's just debt, not convertible to equity.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:05:55 2017 No.4794472 >>4794458 what happens to all those loans when we get a correction*

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:07:55 2017 No.4794512 > Yesterday moderate gains > Today every stock is tanking Everything I do on the market turns to shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:09:14 2017 No.4794546 >>4794458 either the investor buys more equities to balance out the loan or the loans become underwater, banks seize the backing stocks and sell at low prices, investors lose everything and are stuck with a bunch of debt

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:10:12 2017 No.4794557 File: 8 KB, 202x211, buckwheat-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4793806

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:12:15 2017 No.4794592 >>4794225 >Oh god, isn't this just like the fucking stock insurance shit that happened in the 90's? whats that

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 14:13:41 2017 No.4794624

>>4794472

Margin call causing liquidation of securites to avoid default duh! This causes prices to fall which will then cause more margin calls, causing more liquidation causing a downward death spiral. Then congress reaches into the FED's deep pockets and we get a bail out, and continue on, as if nothing happened and pretend we didn't learn anything while looking for the next best loop hole to fuck up the economy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:20:26 2017 No.4794754 So my margin maintenance line is doing this cool thing where it consistently stays about 2 dollars above what I need even when I pass it. Is there some other threshold I need to pass?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:23:28 2017 No.4794815 Why is everything going down?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:26:40 2017 No.4794870 >>4794815 because it's almost the end of the day

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:27:41 2017 No.4794896 >>4794815 Time to rotate into crypto

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:28:20 2017 No.4794914 File: 36 KB, 737x758, a53.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4794815 Lunch sellers power hour in 30 mins

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:29:13 2017 No.4794937 >>4794896 BTC gunna go over 12k this week?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:29:21 2017 No.4794939 Was buying high part of your plan?

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 14:29:38 2017 No.4794945 >>4794896 Crypto is correcting right now too. Cash is king at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:29:45 2017 No.4794948 >>4794225 >the fucking stock insurance shit that happened in the 90's I buy stock insurance frequently. They are called options.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:30:35 2017 No.4794960 >>4794939 only for AMD >>4794945 BTC is up like 4-5% today..

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:31:17 2017 No.4794976 >>4793371 Hello? Did you read what I said above?

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 14:31:49 2017 No.4794986 >>4794960 bull trap, it's correcting from that 12 grand push back to around 10.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:33:47 2017 No.4795019 >>4794986 It's at 11,825 right now.... that's an ATH I believe.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:37:24 2017 No.4795092 The MU shares I bought yesterday made me happy today.

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:45:58 2017 No.4795258

Down 1% today
It's a fucking tuesday you assholes, go up.

>>4793494
>economy goes up
>stock does well
>economy crashes
>stock is on sale
I fear not a crash, I fear slow decline. I'd rather have extreme volatility rather than slow, steady decline. If you have capital, crashes are your friend.

>>4793738
>Is the FED trying to crash the fucking economy under Trump
Yes. And the economy is still doing better than ever. This is a Trumpconomy, faggots. Get on the success train.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:51:21 2017 No.4795371 PXS around $5 rn, get in here

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:52:32 2017 No.4795393 Made $40 off mara today, good stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:52:54 2017 No.4795404 it sure as heck doesn't look like tech will be going up tommorow

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:53:16 2017 No.4795410 Fuck this gay earth

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:53:19 2017 No.4795412 MARA and SRAX blowing up. Watch TEUM.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:56:26 2017 No.4795473 >>4795412 SELL MARA

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:57:52 2017 No.4795494 >>4795412 Can TEUM please resurrect me from death

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:58:07 2017 No.4795503 >>4795371 Is pxs a good stock? Seems like the price dropped drastically, but then again it does have some high volatility?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:58:25 2017 No.4795507 Why are people still giving those cunts at MARA money They're a fucking fraud

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:59:28 2017 No.4795536 CUR on watch

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:59:48 2017 No.4795542
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>>4794948
>>4794592
It was the 80's not 90's, my bad. But basically, this was when SP500 Futures were brand new in Chicago. New "companies" were popping up and offering "portfolio insurance" for your holdings.

Basically, all they did was short the SP500 Futures to make money when your port went down, to offset the losses worst case, and grab a little profit too best case. At this time, algos and quant trading was the new hot thing, so a lot of this port insurance trading was computerized.

From what I recall, things started falling in the real SP500 (and stocks), which lead to port insurers running over to Chicago to short the SP500 Futures, however, the shorting was so strong that it began to drag down the REAL SP500 (due to arbitrage: when the Real SP500 is falling less than the Futures, you're going to want to short the real thing until it drops as far as the Futures to make a profit on the lag).

On top of that, the algos kept triggering other algos to keep short selling as the futures kept dropping (and the real market dropping just to catch up), causing a domino effect of heavy selling.

I read cases of algos trying to buy or sell the market on a market order (instant entry no matter what the price) and the orders were literally hanging there in the air, not getting filled at all, even autofill.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 14:59:49 2017 No.4795544 >>4795507 You can still make a profit off it friend

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:00:59 2017 No.4795571 come on faggot bulls its power hour time to buy some stocks

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:04:03 2017 No.4795631 >>4795542 >New "companies" were popping up and offering "portfolio insurance" for your holdings. Sounds like the forefathers of the modern hedge fund.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:04:39 2017 No.4795645 File: 29 KB, 250x293, BGM_-photo-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Dude, both Fundamental and Technical analysis are flawed and suck Was he right /biz/ ?

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:04:44 2017 No.4795650

>>4795258
>I fear not a crash, I fear slow decline. I'd rather have extreme volatility rather than slow, steady decline. If you have capital, crashes are your friend.
I hear people say this, but don't understand it. How do I learn what to do in a crash?

And in a crash, does anyone really know what is happening? I mean, I remember in 08 lots of bouts of optimism before it went to 6,000 or wherever it landed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:05:02 2017 No.4795657 File: 205 KB, 468x345, woke.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4795571 Too sad

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:05:59 2017 No.4795679 >>4795645 literally who

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:06:55 2017 No.4795696 Also thank you to Moises for the free share of ZNGA http://share.robinhood.com/davida282

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:10:02 2017 No.4795757 File: 37 KB, 480x540, 1507621254039.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4795696

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:10:39 2017 No.4795767 >>4795507 MARA literally resurrected my portfolio from the ashes two weeks ago. Whoever that anon was that shilled it right before the pop, you’re my hero

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 15:11:01 2017 No.4795774

>>4795542

The crash of 87 was a direct result of Reganomics. These Trumped up trickle down tax cuts that benefit corporations and the ultra wealthy are going to have the same impact on the economy as Regan's tax cuts did to crash the economy in 87. I hope you all have invested in rope futures, too bad the price of rope is going to crash when people don't even have enough money to afford that...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:13:49 2017 No.4795838 >>4795774 you're on a roll today with these shitposts

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:14:03 2017 No.4795843 >>4795774 move to canada or mexico then

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:16:32 2017 No.4795894 >>4794815 bloomf people are taking profits after the tax plan passed

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:20:20 2017 No.4795981 >>4795696 Thank you Elizabeth for the free share of SIRI http://share.robinhood.com/nicholc1484

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:21:21 2017 No.4796002 >>4795981 fuck you Nicholas you faggot and all those free stocks are shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:21:35 2017 No.4796008 >>4795774 But it wasn't, though. It was program trading.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:23:18 2017 No.4796053 File: 68 KB, 750x553, 1507200398914.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] TEUM gonna make me die

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:24:32 2017 No.4796086 >>4796002 Chill out guy Don't take your bad day of trading out on me

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:25:37 2017 No.4796111 File: 62 KB, 1487x550, teum.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4796053 >mkt cap 25 million why do people buy this terrible fucking shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:26:51 2017 No.4796140 >>4796111 >I-its gonna moon tomorrow! Y-you'll see! :^)

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:27:15 2017 No.4796147 >>4796140 Even their CEO is named fucking Bozzo

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:31:32 2017 No.4796230 >>4796086 heh I made 300 dollars today just day trading tech shit not much but I bet it's more than your meme app

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:31:35 2017 No.4796231 File: 288 KB, 700x700, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I WAS SO CLOSE TO 100K AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA TRUMP FIX THIS NOW

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:33:55 2017 No.4796278 >>4796231 The bad thing is that there is no thing to look forward to. In 2016 the thing was expectations that republicans will take over the government in 2017 it was expectations of tax cuts and tax reform and Fed shit, now there is no longer a "thing"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:34:09 2017 No.4796282 CUR fuckers

>>	BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 15:35:27 2017 No.4796314 >>4796231 I heard this from some insiders on the hill. Trump is doing everything in his power to undermine the great economy he inherited from president Obama. S+P is going back to 2600. I told you all this shit yesterday.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:36:26 2017 No.4796332 If you have been in this thread longer than 2 weeks and still haven't bought BGFV then I got news for you, you might not make it in this game

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:38:24 2017 No.4796372
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>>4796278
Its over isnt it. The age of easy 20%+ returns is dead. Best case scenario is the Fed raises the interest rates and republicans stay in power and cut government spending. But midterms in 2018 might mean Democrats raise taxes and everything goes to shit.

M-maybe the infrastructure bill will save us? A-a-all in on CAT?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:38:44 2017 No.4796376 >>4796314 Man I remember trading shit during the last years of Obama's presidency. It was fucking terrible. The market was a fucking stagnant piece of shit everything either rose by .10% or fell by .10% every day

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:38:56 2017 No.4796381 >>4796332 Sporting goods stores exist so people can walk in, try on cleats, then walk home and buy the correct size on amazon

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:40:17 2017 No.4796406

>>4796372
It better be a good infustructure bill. I 'm also hoping we go to some sort of nuclear war with North Korea. The bad news would be if the demshits win the elections then it's back to shit city with the market becoming gay again with daily .10% shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:40:35 2017 No.4796417 >>4796372 >CAT is up 150% since 2016 FUCK I WAS TOO LATE

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:42:02 2017 No.4796445 >>4796381 come on anon, you know not everyone does that. Don't hate on BGFV there is no reason to hate bro just go with it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:42:17 2017 No.4796454 >>4796381 nah you buy the correct size in the store on your phone

Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:42:30 2017 No.4796456

>>4796372
>>4796417
Gotta start looking into the future more. That anon earlier talking about AI/automation, maybe materials (carbon fiber more usage in automotive and aerospace?), electrification.. I donno.

But yeah tech is gunna get assrammed pretty soon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:45:10 2017 No.4796518 File: 71 KB, 256x256, 2440322B-839C-4C63-8F10-D7E428819C23.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4796406 >shilling for nuclear war believing it will be good for stocks

BagholderExtraordinaire !kDjFcJuZkQ Tue Dec 5 15:45:31 2017 No.4796525

>>4796456

Data storage. The amount of data storage the world is going to need is just going to increase exponentially. We're currently witnessing the first generation of people who's entire lives are going to be documented via FB. You know how much data that's going to take? The demand is always going to be there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:46:04 2017 No.4796542 >>4796518 It unironically would be it would be a massive crash followed by a massive surge probably also America won't get nuked but South Korea and Japan would taking out two massive competitors to the US economy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:47:51 2017 No.4796595 >>4796542 It unironically would mean the end of human civilization. Nukes aren’t even real anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 5 15:48:39 2017 No.4796609 >>4796595 > North Korea having enough nuke to end human civilization

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