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Fucking love this kid.

1. Gives zero fucks about his wealth. Openly announces his own coin is overpriced 500%

2. Gives comments like pic related. Anyone smart knows what hes talking about and he will not succumb or even pay any attention to sjw guiltists or trolls trying to make him feel awkward

3. Constantly reaffirms his dedication and autism through his blog and reddit account, which are complete technical hieroglyphs to any normie with zero respect paid to the market itself. Hes just a programmer at his most pure core

Frankly, Eth will make it. Vitalik does not have weakness of people like Roger Ver, who spaz out at the community. No bullshit like OMISEGO, where that faggot spends all his time trying to take photos in front of logos faking partnership. No inner turmoil like Serfag, who is currently all fucking emo and hiding out in his eastern european abode fucking whores with our money.

Just on his computer toiling away, changing the world, and making me rich

>> No.4777005

It's sad because he's right

>> No.4777009

fucking retard
Child porn imposed risk on children involved in the industry
You actively promote and build the industry by possessing it

Eth will make it but zero respect for Vitalik

>> No.4777015

>>4776960
>having to compare vitalik to ver and sergey
this much cope

>> No.4777018
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4777018

ETH has been consistently underperforming against BTC for the last year or so, also, any normie seeing this is going to think he's a pedo.
While I respect your enthusiasm, I think you're going to be posting pink wojaks for many years to come

>> No.4777019

Vitalik is a crypto chad

>> No.4777028

>>4777019
literally the opposite

>> No.4777032

>>4777009
How so? The argument here is that just having child porn doesn't help the industry nor does it harm any children since you didn't actually finance the industry by buying it (the keyword is POSSESSING it, not buying, not copying and sending to your friends, just having it around). He's right.

>> No.4777067

>>4777009
>children involved in the industry
there's no industry. according to the police, majority of the material comes from fathers wanting to share with the community (90s, usenet).

I just realised how this is somehow even more fucked up.

>> No.4777077
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>>4777018
ETH is much more useful for the purpose of trading for alts. When normies begin to get into alt trading, they'll be buying ETH to do so.

I can see ETH going to $1000 in just a couple of weeks.

>> No.4777089

>>4777009
There was a context for the tweet and if you had bothered to read it and had the cognitive capacity to understand it you'd know his tweet was against a specific kind of pro-drug argument, not an expression of support for the legalization of child porn.

>> No.4777099

a week ago ETH holders were bragging about how much faster it is then bitcoin

then digital kitties get popular and it all goes to shit

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.4777110

>>4777009
>le industry
people dont pay for cp you tard, its already illegal and if you want it there is no more barrier to entry because of simple possession being illegal

>> No.4777127

>>4777032
How does doing heroin endanger others? Maybe you can consider trafficking, overdosing, but those doing heroin responsibly aren't endangering anyone...

>> No.4777133

>>4776960
>heroin
he looks like krokodil is more his kind of thing. koding for krok

>> No.4777159

>>4777067
>I just realised how this is somehow even more fucked up.
possession cannot happen without production. it's a nonsensical argument by vitalik and frankly, disturbing for anyone holding ETH. if he cannot see this connection, then what else is he missing. quite a lot, apparently

>> No.4777171

>>4777067
Yeah child porn is seriously fucked up. The thing is, for the moralist hyperventilating of /bizpol/ over this, Vitalik never said that CP is ok! Honestly nobody gives a shit outside of the echo chamber.

>> No.4777180

>>4777099
its pretty fucking bad iv haven't been able to transfer anything.

>> No.4777182

>>4777159
you fucking retard that is the point he is making

>> No.4777194

>>4777077
>ETH is much more useful for the purpose of trading for alts.

Because it's more efficient to swap between exchanges?

>> No.4777203

>>4777171
>Vitalik never said that CP is ok!
by proxy, he did, but he can't see it, and apparently neither can you

>> No.4777207

>>4777159
that's the whole fucking point retard, you aren't very smart are you?

>> No.4777219

>>4777203
no he didn't, and anyone with a brain can see that he didn't

>> No.4777227

>>4777182
read this anon's post. >>4777067
you're making the assumption that possession implies demand

>> No.4777228

When the team says the coin is overvalued - you know that's a solid af investment

>> No.4777298

>>4777194
Indeed. Transfer fees are lower and

>> No.4777324

>>4777127
are you the dumbest mother fucker on this planet? did you REALLY just spend some time to type those words out? holy shit, i need to go get some air.

>> No.4777341

>>4776960
Is he now having paid shills trying to improve his public image due to his commie/pedo outrages?

>> No.4777362

>>4777203
Sure whatever, no one gives a shit regardless. Hasn't affected the value of ETH one goddamn bit, has it?

>> No.4777365

I dont even know why im arguing this because i think child porn is despicable, But..

the main arguments are, your harming children, your funding the industry that harms children etc. So what about the kids that go on shit like periscope and other live streaming places and generally act like morons, getting naked etc of their own free will? Curious about the arguments against it. (Im against it either way)

>> No.4777376

>>4777341
more like paid core shills trying to act like he said anything bad

>> No.4777391

>>4777032

Right, because people produce products for which there is no demand

>> No.4777400

>>4777018
its up over 6000% on the year you braindead newfag brainlet. yes that’s 6000% compared to btc which is up a little over 1000%. which one would have been a better investment a year ago?

>> No.4777425

>>4777159
>>4777159
you could argue that your possession / aquisition of the material has no impact on the amount of cp produced. That is, of course, only as long as there's no market situation that creates an incentive.

Either way, since your possession, as someone not involved with the 'scene', sends no feed back to the producer in any way, pedo-skelly is right.

It's essentially like witnessing a fire works show. You seeing it has no impact whatsoever. It's an externality.

>> No.4777455

>>4776960
And the time where him and his boyfriend publicly stated they would use all the tools at their disposal to shut down right wing apps on the Ethereum network because they consider themselves devout communists? Very decentralized of them.

And the time some kid sent some command to a smart contract that shouldn't have done anything and instead nuked hundreds of millions of $ of ETH? Like last month?

Or the DAO shit?

Eth will not make it. As soon as a competitor comes out that does what Eth does better the will have their market share eroded until it dies.

>> No.4777466

>>4777171
>Vitalik never said that CP is ok!

I always thought calling him a pedo was a joke.

>> No.4777470

>>4777127
Don't be anger, bro

>> No.4777488

>>4777391
in the world of cp, yes. it's produced by other pedos to share with eachother. simple possession, not paying for anything, doesn't increase demand either.

>> No.4777514

>>4777365
You're raping those children over the internet with your eyes because they only do it for attention and don't know any better. You're taking advantage of your position as an observer to force these children into doing lewd things and you should be hanged for it.

>t. "conservative" Burger

>> No.4777526

>>4777514
the sad thing is I can't even tell if this is a shitpost

>> No.4777530

>>4777009
You are emotional retard FUDer
He said, he can argue.
Meaning, it is possible to come up with some points supporting such claim.
That did not refer to his opinion.

>> No.4777537

>>4777391
>POSSESSING
Man you are missing the point. Here vitalik comparing the possession of heroin and the possession of child porn. For the sake of the argument imagine some heroin appeared out of nowhere in your hand | some child porn appeared out of nowhere in your hand. Please be less retarded

>> No.4777555

>>4777514
Lol why are you assuming i watch? I clearly said i despise it.

>> No.4777563

>>4777455
>one thing that never involved Vitalik, but a person whose twitter handle is literally "unchained," and two fuck-ups by third-party programmers

Not seeing why any of those things reflect on the money skeleton.

>> No.4777587

hes a diddler lover

>> No.4777646

>>4777400
Year ago yes.
6 months nah.
It almost flipped BTC, but burned itself touching the sun. Tanking in BTC value ever since.

>> No.4777650

>>4777537
you could as well not take/sell the heroin or use it in an appropriate way (which is to alleviate intense physical pain), but experience a normalisation effect from the cp, making you unconsciously a tiny, little bit more likely to accept or even 'overlook' the vile act of child molestation.

(you can easily argue both perspectives)

>> No.4777745

>>4777555
Just giving you the argument against it m8, since you asked.

>> No.4777780

>>4777745
Ah sorry, gotcha. Thats a pretty good argument against it. Ignorance. Kids are retarded, theirs no disputing that.

>> No.4777938

>>4777227
I'm not making any assumptions, money skelly is merely pointing out you can either isolate the possession or consider the broader implications for each. What the guy he slammed was trying to do was trying to isolate possession for only heroin. It is this simple.

>> No.4778033

>>4777780
Yeah. A lot of adults are retarded too, but they still do porn and it's not illegal.

>> No.4778179

>>4777110
You know if CP was legal it would be legal right.

>> No.4778285

>>4778179
do you know what possession means? possession was always legal in places like japan even though CP is illegal.

>> No.4778317

>>4777009
>You actively promote and build the industry by possessing it

what the fuck are retards like you constantly talking about when you say ""the industry""? no one is fucking selling kiddie porn in back alleys. all the kiddie shit is made by family members or guys that fly to some third world country and post the shit on the darkweb

no one is buying it, that's a riduclously high risk for no essentially no reward no matter how big of a fetish it is for you

pedophiles should be executed or rehabilitated or whatever i don't give a shit, but Vitalik is right here. schedule 1 drugs minus marijuana are much more harmful than some fat neckbeard watching kiddie shit on the darkweb

>> No.4778404

>>4778033
>>4777780

the problem lies with the deep emotional damage pedo shit leaves on the psyche of children.

now when whatever the kids do in front of their webcam is not sexual in nature, but instruction-less voluntary innocent play, the situation is ambivalent at best in regards to them.

I'm trying to find a definitive argument against it, but am getting no where without either changing the nature of the play, coming up with a time-based argument (that'd be so-so), some slippery slope, or redefining the victim (as in society is the victim).

saying they unknowingly prostituting themselves doesn't cut it without any damage done.

>> No.4778494

>>4777365
>kids that go on shit like periscope and other live streaming places and generally act like morons, getting naked etc of their own free will

Well first off free will doesn't exist. Having a passive attitude toward activities that degrade the popular morality and community stability is a behavior that can do nothing but harm society, and likely the individual.

>> No.4778617

>>4776960
Well said, anon.

This is why I'm accumulating ETH, and not other coins like LTC or XMR.

2018 will be ETH's year. We will see $1000 per ETH in Feb or March.

>> No.4778626

>>4778317
The web is already full of porn anyway, i think half of the web is porn? how much of that is cp? 10%?

You can't even dodge it as a kid on the web, put a kid on a computer and just by clicking like a retard on pornsites he will find cp.

>> No.4778681

>>4777203
he was just strawmanning the libertarian he was arguing with by equating drug use with child porn production

>> No.4778685

>>4777032
you are victimizing the persons in the cp again by viewing it. they did not consent to having images of them being violated viewed by people.

possession of cp should be illegal because of this.

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>>4778317
Also what are schedule one drugs these days in my time it was coke and heroine and all but today, i dont even know what sort of weird stubstances are out there, there is stuff even available now that's not even outlawed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-N2LwJL75g

Not saying cp is right, infact not any porn is right but it exists. And cp is outlawed and still exists. So outlawing something doesnt make it not exist.

>> No.4778759

>>4778685
eye rape!!!!!!

>> No.4778795

people talking about Vitaliks health and looks...he doesn't have to eat like a normal person. all he needs is a little fluid (green tea) and a connection with the source code of which the life force flows through. he is a tibetan monk reincarnated whose reality exists on a higher multidimensional plane.

>> No.4778818

>>4778685
yes ofcourse, but one could always argue he didnt hurt the child and he's not responsible for putting it on the web in the first place, he simply found it for free on the net.

I know sounds very ancap but in a way it's true

>> No.4778898

>>4778818
>but one could always argue ...

but he has no license. that's theft.

>> No.4778915

Fuck me so many pedos and pedo sympathetisers here
When did Jews infiltrate this board

>> No.4778942

>>4778685
How do the people in it know that you're viewing it unless they're distributing themselves? If you go download Jennifer Lawrence's fappening pics and jerk off to it right now, will she be harmed?

>>4777391
Does pirating a movie encourage Hollywood to make more?

>> No.4778944

>>4778898
he violated the NAP?

>> No.4778951

>>4778915
jews spread the anti-pedo hysteria when it's 100% natural and extremely common, so they can promote people they have dirt on as pawns. why do you think there's so many high level people connected to it?

>> No.4779042
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>>4778944
kek. no. ancaps do not believe in intellectual property.

>> No.4779118

>>4778915
vitalik speaks in code logic. not in social logic. OP is trying to point this out. yes, vitalik uses very poor examples to prove this code logic. hence his lack of social logic. being able to distinguish between the two and react objectively is a good indicator of ones IQ. Now you on the other hand, went straight to illogical social garbage spewing hate and bigotry. who has the higher mind here.

>> No.4779235

what if two kids same age below 18 wanna fuck and put in on snapchat or shit ?

and a pedo downloads and jacks off to it ?

how is that harmful mf ?

>> No.4779239

>>4777009
Totally agree with you. The board apparently sees nothing wrong with child porn. 4chan really is the bottom of the cesspool...

As an attorney with many colleagues that actively prosecute child porn production, distribution, and possession, there is absolutely an industry. People profit on this at the expense of innocent children. Possession of child porn is illegal because our society still actually has some morals. Attempt to cut off the demand (argument as to whether it actually does... but again... morals) to prevent innocent victims.

>> No.4779274

>>4777077
Good read anon

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>>4777009
>>4777365
>>4778404
Fucking idiots. No one films CP anymore. There is no CP industry. All CP is filmed by that weird alcoholic step father / uncle during the late 80s to early 2000s and have VHS quality
>>4777488
This. They barter trade and use Monero for escrow. Buy Monero, it has much utility and will moon to $500 EOY

>> No.4779292

>>4779235
You’re an idiot if you think that’s what the law is trying to prevent. How do you illegalize some child porn but not others? Then you have to prove that the porn was not created through duress. It’s almost impossible. We illegalize child porn to reduce demand to prevent the victimization of children. It is unbelievable people who aren’t addicted to child porn can defend this...

>> No.4779299

does childporn even exists ?

i have searched every porn site but everyone looks above 18

how can a 50y old fuck a 10y old its not even physically possible

>> No.4779306

>>4779239
This. CP is degenerate as fuck I hope you guys get the FBI kicking in your door for that shit

>> No.4779313

>>4779290
If you’re ok with being wrong, then more power to you...

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4779321

Even discussing this, this guy sounds like a faggot.

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>>4779299
Yes anon. It exists but you have to purchase a monero subscription. And >9 years old are good to go anon

>> No.4779330

>>4776960
Except owning child porn does hurt people. You are supporting, directly or indirectly, a practice that irreparably wounds children forever and turns them into psychopathic adults who go on to molest other children.

>> No.4779373

>>4777324
A drug addict nodding out in his room is worse than possessing child pornography?

>> No.4779374
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>>4776960
I bought more eth when I heard about this t b h
Just proves Vitalik is /ourguy/.

>> No.4779381

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EBfxU7p1SQ

k guys

>> No.4779387

>>4778942
Here’s the flawed logic. If people didn’t want to fap it to naked Jennifer Lawrence, then why would someone hack her phone and leak the pics in the first place. Supply and demand. As an “investor,” I’d assume you’d understand the concept.

>> No.4779389

>>4776960

bet you are a conservative/republican

they love a good old pedo to defend

>> No.4779390

Vitalik said "simple possesion"

what if you keep it but dont watch it ?

i have lots of movies i pirate but then dont watch .

>> No.4779395

I think I have a weird emotional attachment to ETH, I'm watching it just slide down and down vs BTC but I just want to buy it all. Hell I might even margin.

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>>4779313
Wtf is this passive aggressive argument? It is only excused if you possess female reproductive organs. Fuck you roastie and buy Monero you cunt

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>>4779374
this

>> No.4779417

>>4779387
>>4779390


These are completely irrelevant to his comments

>> No.4779420

>>4779235
why are you talking about hypothetical scenarios defending child porn? this place is filled with so many retards, most of which are american.

>> No.4779435

>>4779420
americans are the hyper anti-pedos because they've been fed the patriot act their whole lives.

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>>4779387
>Supply/demand
>No medium of exchange
They weren't hacked to provide us with pictures to fap to you brainlet, they were hacked to be extorted. Things went bad and he just doxxed them all

>> No.4779452

>>4779435
the patriot act is 17 years old you dense shit

>> No.4779478

>>4779452
yes, started when most people here were growing up. do you think USA government decided anything to let your privacy back? no, privacy is bad! are you a pedo? then you dont need privacy :) pedo is the most evil!! give us backdoor :)

>> No.4779506

>>4779387

As a hacker hackers dont hack primarily for fapping/money they hack to see if they can break security for ego its that simple.

If you want to learn hacking for money/fapping you can never become a hacker you gotta think beyond it

>> No.4779541

>>4779445
Dude. It’s ok. You like kiddy porn. You’re in good company here.

I argue for a living and love making the counterpoint. But sometimes the counterpoint isn’t worth making. I’m not saying Vitalik was advocating for child porn. But the people on this board are justifying it. That’s sick.

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>>4779506
it's jennifer lawrence, not jennifer roastie from block C

You're hitting nails. It's about high level targets, no one gives a flying fuck about low level targets.

>> No.4779615

How can someone fap to a kiddo ? they dont have either tits or nice ass .

some 16y+ look hot but they arent really kids.

any pedo/pedo catcher wanna give insight on psychology ?

( dont tell they are fucked up give some logical insight )

>> No.4779725

>>4779615
>any pedo/pedo catcher wanna give insight on psychology ?
Pedos aren't attracted to tits/big-ass; they just like kids personalities and how they look.
To them they're attracted to cute rather than sexy.

Pedos sexuality aren't really like hetereosexuals or homosexuals, they're usually more emotional/romantic.
It's hard to understand as a non-pedophile imo, especially because most non-pedophiles have delusions that the media have told them which have no relevance to pedophilia.

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>>4779541
Who says I like kiddy porn? I will knock your teeth in fagot. Fuck off. I just don't like how society is hypocritical when it comes to such matters

>> No.4779776

>>4779553
yo how many XMR to lick her butthole and make her sit on my face?

>> No.4779822

>>4776960
I don't even agree unless he's talking about drawn pornography just like that he's willing to post something like that

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>>4779541
>>4779615
>i-i-i d-d-d-definitely don't like this cute girl at all!
>daddy government said its baad!!

>> No.4779833

>>4779776
I see you got taste. Yes i love asian teens with tits, Makes me wanna be a rich white man in China. Where is my lambo guys, wich coin should i buy, you're wasting time, cmon biz make a call

>> No.4779901

>>4779824
>being sexually attracted to retarded midgets

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>>4779824
t. Pedo

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4779948

>>4778285
If possessing it is legal then people who give no fucks can make more kiddie porn and the cycle continues

Please an hero and get off this board if you dont understand what supply and demand is anon

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>>4779918
>you wouldnt

>> No.4779974

>>4779948
>make cp
>go to jail
it's not any different than now

>> No.4780037

>>4779962
No

>> No.4780050

>>4779962
calvin klein top did it for me

DAMN YOU CALVIN (((KLEIN)))

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>>4779974
>Not knowing the difference between at little and a lot

Lets legalise murder because people get murdered

>> No.4780304

>>4779452
>17 years old

she said she was 18 I swer

>> No.4780385

>>4777400
>better investment a year ago
XEM or XRP

>> No.4780452

>>4779239
But the government possesses a treasure trove of CP that are shared with the elites. They create the largest demand.

>> No.4780461

>>4780290
you cant possess murder retard

>> No.4780513

>>4779330
>I download a picture of Adolf Hitler
>I am indirectly supporting Hitler
??????

>> No.4780554

>>4779395
ETH technology just seems superior, wanna hodl for the long term

>> No.4780587

>>4779541
They are justifying his argument not CP