/sfig/ Stocks, Forex, and Investments General

[Anonymous No.433721]

>GMO earnings edition

[Anonymous No.433723]

will GMO finally be kill after their Q2 report

[Anonymous No.433724]

>Game
http://www.marketwatch.com/game/biz-game-/
Password: merchant

>Trading Hours
Monday - Friday
0930 - 1600 EST
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>Educate yourself
http://www.investopedia.com/university/stocks/

>Previous threads
>>>>http://archive.foolz.us/_/search/boards/biz.dev.foolz/text/Password%20%3A%20merchant%20/type/op/

Useful Links:
>Stock Price Charts
https://www.google.com/finance
http://finance.yahoo.com/
>Investing Wiki
http://www.investopedia.com/
>Advanced Graphics, Visuals, etc.
http://finviz.com/
http://finviz.com/map3d.ashx
http://stockcharts.com/

[Anonymous No.433725]

=== Options ===

> https://www.google.com/finance/option_chain?q=NYSE%3AAMD

Options are contracts giving you the right to buy or sell 100/10 shares at a certain price any time until a certain date. A "call" gives you the right to buy ie. going long.

> AMD $3.66 :: September 21st, 2013 Expiration

> $3.00 call costs $0.67 per share ($67)
> $3.50 call costs $0.30 per share ($30)
> $4.00 call costs $0.08 per share ($8)

You can buy a $3.00 call for $67 which gives you the right to buy 100 shares of AMD anytime on or before September 21st at the price of $3.00.

> AMD $3.67 :: January 18th, 2013 Expiration

> $3.00 call costs $0.87 per share
> $3.50 call costs $0.57 per share
> $4.00 call costs $0.38 per share

The prices increase with the further expiration. For $0.20 more cents a share you have allow more than 400% as much time for AMD to meet your expectations. This value beyond the call's "intrinsic value" ($3.67 current price - $3.00 strike price) is called the "premium". Premiums degrade at an accelerating pace as you get closer to the expiration. The $4.00 "out-of-the-money" call has a premium of $0.71, while the $3.00 "in-the-money" call only has a premium of $0.20.

For now, for at least a year, do yourself a favor and only buy options with small premiums. Far "in-the-money" and long expiration. Never buy a contract expiring in less than 2 months until you know why.

... continued ...

[Anonymous No.433726]

Say AMD was $6.00 in December. That Jan $3.00 call would increase ~275% from $0.87 to $3.00 plus the remaining premium (a few cents). The massive increase in price ie. volatility may actually increase the premium however your call would be so far in the money that this wouldn't happen. I mention volatility as it's important to understand in case you happen to be an idiot and buy an option with a high premium. If a stock just jumped up 10%, there's going to be high premiums, and these premiums will "decay" very fast if the price remains the same.

In other words, always have patience. Never buy options contracts after an extreme change in price. Don't buy options with high premiums.

=============

To start trading options, you're going to have to lie to your brokerage. It's one of those "you need experience to get experience" things. They need you to assert that you're experienced enough so that you cannot sue them for your own mistakes. I'm not recommending you commit fraud, just saying you need experience to get experience. You could possibly do it honestly by being rich and then writing contacts for a few years as a Level I.

> http://optionshouse.com/

Anyway, when you're ready, I recommend going to this brokerage and applying for Options Level II. In order to allow you to trade contracts, they will likely need these requirements...

> trading goal: speculation (ie. you assert that options are throwing darts)
> have a net worth > $25k
> 4 years experience trading stocks, 20+ yearly trades
> 2 years experience trading options 20+ yearly trades

Some brokerages like E-trade will flat out deny you for Level II unless you're a millionaire. Also consider taking advantage of one of their new account offers...

> http://landing.optionshouse.com/test/promo/callawayrazr/201306
> http://www.optionshouse.com/promotions/

Apply for options at your own risk.

[Anonymous No.433729]

Forex:
For a "school", the one on babypips (http://www.babypips.com/school/)) is a decent (and free) school. It goes through all of the basics you should know, or at least most of them - what forex is, how the market works, how price works, how indicators work and so on, and also, they both stress safety, which of course, is important. Doesn't provide a strategy, but explains a lot of stuff in a (relatively) fun way. It also has quizzes that you can do for every segment, and tracks your progress if you check the pages off while logged into an account.

The (forex4noobs/ Nick B) videos I would recommend were:

Candlestick Analysis Basics (1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WryH2xInhM [Embed]

Support and Resistance (2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zxqwp5ws7M [Embed]

Trading Reversal Trades (3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0RLGGOqkfQ [Embed]

Software:
https://www.thinkorswim.com/tos/client/index.jsp
http://finviz.com/map3d.ashx

Read Me: Trading options
http://cfe.cboe.com/education/TradingVolatility.pdf
http://www.cboe.com/tradtool/virtualtrade.aspx
http://pastebin.com/qnTrGeKN

Reading Material:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/1jo6vo33ob14f3l/The_Intelligent_Investor_-_BENJAMIN_GRAHAM.pdf

http://www.terry.uga.edu/~akefalas/courses/mirrors/htm

http://www.investopedia.com/term/e/earnings.asp

Watching Material:
https://www.tastytrade.com/tt/shows/WDIS
http://www.outsider-trading.com/paul-tudor-jones-documentary-trader/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/core-finance

Free options webminar starting soon.

https://global.gotowebinar.com/register/137959763

[Anonymous No.433731]

Basic technicals to learn. 50SMA 200SMA.

RSI MACD indicators. Parabolic SAR (support and resistance) These three all developed by

Advanced theory can include Elliott wave
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_wave_principle

and fibonacci
http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:fibonacci_retracemen

ADX
http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:average_directional_

In my humble opinion, indicators developed by Welles Wilder are the best and most reliable. Being in the computer age of auto trading. I think these are what most systems are set up to use. Thus why they become so apparent in the charts, almost like a self fulfilling prophecy.

Technical trading gives you the ability when learned properly to identify the oversold and overbought areas, where you can then risk your capital. Keeping the stop losses just outside of these boundary just in case we are wrong, keeping losses at a minimum and letting profits run with things like a trailing stop loss.

one might ask, how do you identify oversold and overbought areas. You look for the divergence between price per share and indicator levels.

from chart school : Divergence: A situation that occurs when two lines on a chart move in opposite directions vertically. People often look for divergences by comparing a stock's direction to the direction of its RSI, its MACD or its Stochastic Oscillator. There are two kinds of divergences: positive and negative. A positive divergence occurs when the indicator moves higher while the stock is declining. A negative divergence occurs when the indicator moves lower while the stock is rising.

here are some simple examples. http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:relative_strength_index_rsi#positive-negative_re

[Anonymous No.433759]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/general-moly-announces-second-quarter-120000124.html

> General Moly, Inc. (the "Company" or “General Moly”) (NYSE MKT and TSX: GMO), a U.S.-based molybdenum mineral development, exploration, and mining company, announced its unaudited financial results for the second quarter ended June 30, 2014. Net loss for the three months ended June 30, 2014 was $2.8 million ($0.03 per share), compared to a loss of $14.3 million ($0.16 per share) for the year ago period.

Excluding restricted cash, the Company’s cash balance at June 30, 2014 was approximately $12 million compared to $22 million at December 31, 2013 and $17 million at March 31, 2014. During the second quarter, cash use of $5 million was the result of $3 million spent on Mt. Hope Project development costs (process equipment, engineering, procurement, owner’s cost, and reclamation bond premiums) as well as $2 million in general and administrative expenses and Liberty Project Pre-Feasibility study related expenditures. In December 2012, the Company and POS-Minerals, as the members of Eureka Moly, LLC (“EMLLC”), agreed to hold, as restricted cash, $36 million due to the Company, of the approximately $100 million received from POS-Minerals’ December, 2012 contributions. These funds will be held in a reserve account until the Company arranges full project financing for its 80% share of Mt. Hope Project construction cost, or until the EMLLC management committee agrees to release the funds.

[Anonymous No.433760]

>>433759

watchu gon do bout it, GMOfags

[Anonymous No.433767]

>>433721
this chart is silly, a single ETF (SPY) trades over $22b a day

[Anonymous No.433769]

Today a good time to jump on Amazon?

[Anonymous No.433774]

>>433721
>Play Biz game
>Shorting UVXY, making mad gains, hold a position in the mid teens with around 230k
>After last week, at 112k, somewhere in the 200s

What a wild ride

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.433781]

>>433721
Thanks man for the thread. BTW water stocks should be hot this week. Check out the news:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/04/us/toledo-water-warning/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.433783]

>>433759
>>433760
EPS met expectations, so nothing. Also rising prices of Moly + pre-feasibility report of mine + Nevada allowed permits for mining (very difficult to get) = steady rise in stock price

[Anonymous No.433789]

I brought a few days back stock in Banco Espirito Santo (Y'know the bank that's going bankrupt in my little shithole, Portugal and had to be bailed out by the EU-IMF) for 0.12 cents a pop. Can't buy anymore now though since >panic sellers

I just fucking hope it actually goes back to pre crash levels.

[Anonymous No.433800]

What's a good Canadian brokerage for someone who won't be doing much trading? The Globe and Mail recommends Virtual Brokers, anyone use them?

[Anonymous No.433851]

Well I did it, bought 20 shares of amazon at 310.20 and it's already up to 314. I think I'm going to hold long on it now. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.433858]

>>433851
xmas is coming good idea

[Anonymous No.433880]

>>433851

Sell 2 mini option contract on Amazon, strike price 320 for August, get paid 80 bucks for the 20 shares, keep doing the same as times goes on you would have reduced your cost basis a bit. Thank me later

[Anonymous No.433961]

>>433783
Wipe do you use an Islamic account?? What broker provides that service?

[Anonymous No.433995]

>>433800
they're all shit with outrageous commissions and inactivity fees that make it hard to break even unless you know your invested stocks will rocket in value and have meaningful returns, or you just play the jew casino buy low sell high gamble game.

I go with my bank's broker because of convenience. (Scotiabank)

[Anonymous No.434042]

>So invested in the SPY
>dat closing today

[Anonymous No.434122]

>>433789
>panic seller


No, pump and dump.

[Anonymous No.434126]

>>433851
That's a shit strategy you have. It went up 4$ (a bit over one %), and now you make this decision. You should set your target(s) before you buy a stock.

[Anonymous No.434131]

>>433783
>>433783
I like all the negativity about GMO here lately. I don't know probably, but this points to the upside.

[Anonymous No.434132]

>>433961
Kill yourself.

What a poor person are you?

[Anonymous No.434137]

>>434132
And I don't mean financially poor.


Sorr for all these posts from me, but replying from my phone sucks.

[Anonymous No.434141]

>>434137
*sorry


Hahahaha, about 6 beers too much today for me :D

[Anonymous No.434147]

>>434141

Chill out bro

[Anonymous No.434151]

>>434147
Yeah I do. But sometimes you have to do more than "chill out" to reach something.

[Anonymous No.434153]

Dat pic.

It's only because people exchange goods in currencies. People don't sell their shit to other countries with Apple stock.

[Anonymous No.434172]

Nvidia is at a 3 month new low, is it time to buy now?

[Anonymous No.434198]

>>433783
What happened to Xin

[Anonymous No.434239]

>>433789
>I just fucking hope it actually goes back to pre crash levels.

Hoping bankrupt stocks return to pre crash levels is always a winning strategy. Bank bailouts protect depositors and bond holders. Equity holders like yourself almost always get wiped out

[Anonymous No.434560]

>>433721

Just wondering but since GMO got options, why not buying the March20 of 2015 staddle for 0,52 a share and hold onto it untill something happens, feels more cost effective than paying for 1.05 for each stock given it can go down on a whimp. Just saying

[Anonymous No.434771]

Been an awesome first 24 hours of live forex trading for me. Went long on the GBP/USD for 40 pips, and scalped the GBP/JPY 6 times.

All in all I'm up $350 on my babby's first $5500 account. Just waiting on the AUD/JPY to hit resistance and plan on shorting it for 30 pips or so. With some more well placed scalps on the G/J, I'm going to profit well over 10% this week.

Fuck I love forex.

[Anonymous No.435055]

As I'm reading more and more about trading, I'm getting a lot of conflicting POVs about philosophies of trading, what ideals to follow, reading charts, swing/value/day trading, etc.

Do all these strategies really work or are most of them bullshit, where everyone follows 1 discrete strategy?

[Anonymous No.435117]

What does /biz/ think of buying into Banco Espirito Santo ($BKESF)? It's pretty cheap now and there is no way the Portuguese Govt/EU is going to let it fail. Seems like a relatively safe bet. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.435277]

>>435117
Im thinking of making an order.

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.435297]

>>433781
I'm deep into AWK and unfortunately, even though water will be hot in the future, they fall under the utilities sector which will continue to be hit hard for a while. So I'll just be sitting here with my loss until people smarten up about water.

[Anonymous No.435314]

>>435117
>>435277
kek

you don't know how this kind of bailout works, do you?

[Anonymous No.435332]

>>435314
Feel free to drop some knowledge.

[Anonymous No.435336]

>>435055
Yes and no.

Yes, there are lots of good strategies. Some work for some people, but not for others. Most people don't follow any strategy. They let their emotions get the best of them.

An investor with a fundamental bias like Warren Buffet would go nuts dealing with bullshit charts WHEN THE COMPANY IS OBVIOUSLY DOOMED! A master technician would go just as nuts trying to base decisions on crusty old irrelevant 12-week old earnings reports when the market action shows an obvious breakout with accompanying volume RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF HIM!

The hard part is to figure out what strategy works for you, and the even harder part is to stick to that strategy, and the hardest part is figuring out when, a few years down the road, your strategy doesn't work as well as it used to and it's time to come up with a new one.

You will never find ONE KEY TRICK to making money in the markets in a book or an article. It doesn't exist. If it did, its inventor would be trading on it, not hawking books. That doesn't mean you can't learn from books about trading; on the contrary, read all you can about as many strategies as you can. The more ideas you encounter, the more likely you are to be able to piece together a set of strategies that work for you.

[Anonymous No.435339]

>>435332
It's essentially bankruptcy - shareholders in BES are being wiped out. I doubt you can even trade the stock anymore. They're going to spin it into two new companies.

This bank was fucked:
http://www.pieria.co.uk/articles/how_to_rip_off_a_bank_esprito_santo_style

sorry for the half arrogant post before

[Anonymous No.435350]

>>435336

I come from a math background so naturally I'm very attracted to charts and numbers, but reading about 50 pages into "The Intelligent Investor" it goes on about scrapping that completely and trying to find companies worth long-term value instead. I'll try to find something that works, thanks for the help.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.435366]

>>434131
I'm just watching it chug along.

>>435297
I'm making a killing on SNSS. Wait for their results to come out, word on the street is they're good ;)

[Anonymous No.435384]

>>435366
So am I. We might see some fireworks in the last couple minutes today just like yesterday.

Not only is there a 60m squeeze that is heading upward, there is also a Day squeeze that is doing the exact same thing.

[Anonymous No.435391]

>>435366

do you mean the Q2 financial results or the phase 3 results of their main drug

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.435404]

>>435391
Phase 3 mate. Q2 financial were kind of shit.

>>435384
Yessir. Friday was my buy in. Yesterday would have been fine but can't really complain.

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.435406]

>>435366
I'm not gonna buy, but good luck lol

[Anonymous No.435408]

>>433723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmdDIwzIYUY

[Anonymous No.435421]

>>435404
>Phase 3 mate.
i thought so. when are the results expected?

[Anonymous No.435422]

Adjusted my delta today, let's see how it turns out.

[Anonymous No.435424]

>>435408

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.435427]

>>435424
>>435408
One of the best videos ever made.

>>435421
Expected results are favourable. Especially since they're doing well in Europe and FDA is much easier to pass.

>>435406
Thank you <3

[Anonymous No.435439]

>>435427
>Expected results are favourable. Especially since they're doing well in Europe and FDA is much easier to pass.

yeah but my question was WHEN mate

GRPN happening btw

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.435444]

>>435439
Will ask when they plan on announcing but a great place to check is here: http://ir.sunesis.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=194116&p=irol-IRHome


>GRPN
People still buy this POS after the CEO/CFO laughed while delivering terrible news on the last quarter failings?

[Anonymous No.435451]

>>435444
thanks. nice trips.

[Anonymous No.435511]

>>435350
>I come from a math background so naturally I'm very attracted to charts and numbers

You should look into forex as well. Great thing about it is you can start demo trading right away, and learn the ins and outs of it. If you blow out one account due to bad trades, you can always open a new one, and start developing better strategies.

[Anonymous No.435570]

>>435511
Alright I'll definitely get into it, I first wanna become very familiar with standard stock trading before I get into things like Forex or options

[Anonymous No.435622]

>>435570

Forex and stocks are actually quite similar. I learned the basics from a friend at work who's been doing stocks for about 5 or 6 years now.

Find the trend, and watch out for news releases. That's basically it. Draw a couple of lines and plot the timeframe of your trades.

I know with stocks, he said one of the challenges is putting up the right amount of shares for sale. You need a buyer if you're going to sell. Trying to sell all your shares at once might not work if nobody wants to buy that amount. With Forex, there's so many transactions, that when you close your trade, it's done. Maybe if you're trading say 10+ lot sizes you have to shed a couple of lots at a time before you close the entire trade, but people I've seen closing 5-7 lot trades had zero problems, and you take something like 100 pips, those are $5k-$7k trades.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.436202]

>>435451
FMI up 7% too.

[Anonymous No.436220]

How accurate is this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_portfolio_theory

[Anonymous No.436230]

>>433721
>Volume is higher in a market based around both a larger capital base and built around HFT
>Porn gets more pageviews if the page is static rather than dynamic
>A flipbook has more pages than a regular book
>A hooker has sucked more dicks than OP's mom
>A firefighter has been in more house fires than the average American
>Americans suffering from obesity are 100% more likely to be suffering from obesity

Shit-fuck metrics general?

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.436236]

>>436230
>A hooker has sucked more dicks than OP's mom

Wouldn't it be more of an insult to say a Booker has sucked fewer dicks than OP?

[Anonymous No.436258]

>>433961

A, This is why I don't post screenshots of my private trading software anymore.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.436265]

>>436258
T, don't blame you mate. It's fine though considering 4chan works with the PD. Last two people are facing misdemeanor charges while dealing with a personal lawsuit.

[Anonymous No.436279]

>>436236
>Wouldn't it be more of an insult to say a Booker has sucked fewer dicks than OP?
Don't you have to go and suck your dad's dick or something, faggot?

[Anonymous No.436300]

>>435350

Nothing wrong (and a lot of things right) with integrating the two approaches.

As a random example that I'm making up as I write this post, suppose you screen out all companies that have no earnings, and of the survivors, all companies that have declining YoY revenues. You'll screen out some good companies that way, but you'll screen out a lot of losers. Of the surviving companies from those fundamental screens, apply your technicals. For example, look for companies with high short interest and an approaching earnings date (sell before the earnings report, because you might be wrong, but your goal would be to play shorts who want to cover their shorts before the earnings report comes out). Screen out stocks with questionable action in their moving averages (MACD), and of what's left, maybe a few dozen companies, and pick your stocks from them.

When technicals or fundamentals start screening your existing holdings out, consider selling. Lather, rinse, repeat.

[Anonymous No.436317]

>>436236
Jesus christ you are such a faggot

[Anonymous No.436471]

>>436236
Wipe as a fellow follower of Islam I understand interest is absolutely haram. What broker do you use that provides a non interest Islamic account?

[Anonymous No.436556]

The 60m squeeze for GMO did a full 180 and exited downward and the day squeeze looks like it is going to do the same thing.

Did this all happen on the news that they are going to go to a conference?

[Anonymous No.436607]

GMO under $1.

THANKS WIPE!

[Anonymous No.436723]

>>436300
>>435622
Thanks for the advice guys, I have it noted.

Has anyone heard of Edward O. Thorpe? He is a Mathematician who created the basis of card counting and also wrote this book on trading using math, he is worth 800 million according to Forbes

http://www.edwardothorp.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/beatthemarket.pdf

I'm going to start reading it soon, has anyone looked into it or know anything about it?

[Anonymous No.437322]

>>436556
>>436607

IT HAPPENED. THERE IS NO HOPE. ALSO MOLYCORP (MCP) GOT THEIR CREDIT. GMO DED.

[Anonymous No.437328]

>>437322
It surely looks that way. Damn the charts look bad right now. If it hits 0.95, I am out. I have been waiting way too long for this.

Everything looked perfect chart-wise until yesterday. Seriously, what the fuck happened?

[Anonymous No.437329]

>>437328
>Everything looked perfect chart-wise

that's what you get for using technical analysis

[Anonymous No.437363]

>>433721
VIX/GOLD TO BE UP TODAY:

>Kiev in flames again
>Russian sanctions on US


>Australian unemployment spikes to 6.4%

[Anonymous No.437365]

>>437363

thank you based putin

[Anonymous No.437380]

>>437363
DAT DROP IN THE VIX IMMEDIATELY AFTER OPEN

[Anonymous No.437405]

>AMD

Bought in at 3.72 sold at 4.08. Rebought at 4.10 it hit 4.20 at open.

Ride this train to 4.60 baby.

[Anonymous No.437410]

>>437405
I bought in at 3.81 after I saw the drop reverse momentum. I am satisfied so far.

[Anonymous No.437482]

Going full bearish on SPY, if shit doesn't hit the fan on the upside should be netting $600 from the puts

[Anonymous No.437490]

>>437482
Is the droppening ever going to happen? I have a few associates that have been waiting for years for there to finally be a peak.

[Anonymous No.437503]

>>437490

A significant drop could happen next year after the interest rates go up and the stimulus is over.

[Anonymous No.437521]

>>437380
DAT SURGE ;^)

[Anonymous No.437534]

>>433721


if i give one of u 100k can u turn it into 1M in 6 months; split the 900k 50/50

[Anonymous No.437720]

>dat selloff at the end today

Let the dollars roll in

[Anonymous No.438088]

>>437503
let's hope

>chaos is a ladder

[Anonymous No.438174]

>>437363
>>437380
>>437521
VIX closed up

le wise Australian man wins again ;^P
It was a scary ride

[Hamiler No.438195]

some trades i have done today

[Hamiler No.438199]

>>438195
>oops pic

>yfw you useing ichi for binay

[Hamiler No.438202]

>>438199

[Anonymous No.438345]

Here's a short I just did on USD/RUB. It's not a big amount, I'm just doing it to test a theory on buying instability.

I'll try exiting at 33.5, doubtful it will go much higher than 37.

[Ausfailian No.438531]

>>437363
>>437521
>>438174

It's me again!
VIX up today also.
>China
>Iraq

Enjoy your weekend, mine has already begun.

[Anonymous No.438585]

Anyone else have any fucking hilarious videos like this? Watched it 8 times and still can't stop laughing

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B8cN586JUR8

[Anonymous No.438710]

Every night I go to sleep and dream that GMO closes higher by +0.01, but when I wake up it feels like a nightmare.

[Anonymous No.438718]

What does /biz/ think of WFM? Its gotten hammered this year but I'm thinking it rebounds and that now is a good time to get in. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.438740]

>>438710

Why don't you sell september covered call at strike 2 for your GMO and make +0,05 for each stock you have.Worse case scenario you keep the 0.05 plus sell the stock at 2.

Just saying

>>438531

>Dat 6% drop

[Anonymous No.438805]

>>438718
their quarterly is just in today

http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0000865436-14-000144%2Etxt&FilePath=%5C2014%5C08%5C08%5C&CoName=WHOLE+FOODS+MARKET+INC&FormType=10-Q&RcvdDate=8%2F8%2F2014&pdf=

a bunch of other things I looked at
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/WHOLE_FOODS_MARKET_(WFM)/Data/Income_Statement#Income_Statement
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/WHOLE_FOODS_MARKET_(WFM)/Data/Gross_Profit
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Whole_Foods_Market_(WFM)/Data/Total_Revenues
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Whole_Foods_Market_(WFM)/Data/Operating_Income
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Whole_Foods_Market_(WFM)/Data/Net_Income_from_Continuing_Ops
https://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=WFM#symbol=WFM;range=5y
https://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=WFM

Whole foods is a relatively new supermarket chain business model centering on selling snake oil style fad diets with no rational basis to hippies, providing the essential economic function of commodifying "environmentalism" and defrauding stupid people thereby causing capital to gravitate towards good wholesome intelligent folks who will allocate it more effectively. Visually the growth pattern resembles a sigma curve which is expected for a new business that is expanding into a market. Less clearly it appears the rate of growth has been slightly slower than the past few years and it may be entering the 2nd half of the sigma curve growth pattern, though this may be due to certain expenses incurred in Q3 2013.

Net income has steadily increased by around $100 million annually, revenue by $1 billion to $1.5 billion, operating income by $150 million to $200 million. Growth as a proportion of revenue is far lower than growth as a proportion of net income, I believe this is due to the slower rate of increase of "direct store expenses" which has only increased 50% since 2009, this is what you would expect from a business that is building new stores. Net income is growing at 20% but revenue and overall growth

[Anonymous No.438812]

>>438718
sorry if this is a bit long and out of proportion, I enjoy this kind of thing anyway

but revenue and overall growth appears to be growing at around 10%

Yahoo key stats put net income trailing twelve months at $572 million, if we expect continued "real" growth in the range of 10% a year and investors tolerating a p/e of 20 a rough valuation might be $12.5 billion. The market cap is $13.78 billion so this is in the same ballpark, I can't say whether it is overvalued or undervalued.

Looking at recent stock history you could speculate that it has hit a level of resistance after dropping in May 2014.

https://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=WFM#symbol=WFM;range=2y

I'll get back to this later, have to do something

[Anonymous No.438820]

>>438812
Thanks bro, I really appreciate it.

My take is that since revenue growth is solid and p/e is lower since is took the hit YTD, it seems like the stock is fairly valued at this point.

I read somewhere that they opened 8 new stores so far this year and they are opening 10 new stores by the end of the year:

http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/stores/list/development

It also seems like they are beginning to expand into Europe with 9 stores currently in the UK.

[Anonymous No.438826]

>0.95

Holy fuck GMO pull yourself together.

[Anonymous No.438851]

>>438826

How many stocks do you have bro

[Anonymous No.438888]

About 3000. To me it really isn't that much. Like this is money I am willing to lose, but I am just so disappointed.

I haven't dabbled too much into options nor do I think I have the privileges to even use them with my broker, so I didn't see that as an alternative.

[Anonymous No.438896]

>>438820
you're welcome

the drop on May 7 was due to a disappointing current report which didn't meet forecasts

http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001171843-14-002168%2Etxt&FilePath=%5C2014%5C05%5C06%5C&CoName=WHOLE+FOODS+MARKET+INC&FormType=8-K&RcvdDate=5%2F6%2F2014&pdf=

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/whole-foods--real-problems-go-deeper-than-yesterday-s-stock-performance-141019254.html
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304655304579548343382157608
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/05/07/why-whole-foods-market-inc-stock-got-trashed.aspx
http://moneymorning.com/2014/05/07/why-whole-foods-market-inc-s-nasdaq-wfm-stock-is-down-20/

Whole foods is apparently facing a lot of competition, wholefoods is a household name and other more established retailers and a few upstarts want a piece of it. I think these articles are largely valid though I don't believe the end is nigh yet, they are opening new stores as you point out, they have so much growth and momentum, if they were in seriously trouble we would have noticed something months ago and they are a household name, a strong brand. When you think of "organic" you think of hipsters with a man bun wandering around whole foods market in sandals, you don't think of Safeway or Sprouts Farmers Market. I speculate they are about halfway through their sigma growth pattern and it will be a while before they max out their market and growth slows to a crawl, unless the current aging bull market ends abruptly.

[Anonymous No.439205]

>>438896
So would you recommend a buy?

[Anonymous No.439212]

Any you subscribed to IBD? (Investor business daily) Opinions/thoughts?

[Anonymous No.439415]

Exec at broker here.

I feel bad for you guys.

[Anonymous No.439432]

>>439415
>no details
>making shit up
>shitposting because why not

[Anonymous No.439571]

>>439415
>This guy

[Anonymous No.439668]

>>439205
Nah, to me "fairly valued" means "already priced in", but I will continue to watch WFM, now I have familiarized myself with WFM I can quickly analyze new developments.

You could speculate that it has dropped to a level of resistance after missing its earnings forecast on May 7 and some might consider this is an opportunity to buy WFM at its lowest price for over a year, but we are in random walk territory and this would be a bet on the erratic behavior of other investors.

I prefer to use my time to research other companies and look for better opportunities elsewhere at the moment.

[Anonymous No.439671]

>>439668
Interesting. I appreciate the research man. Good luck to you.

[Anonymous No.439708]

>>439432
>>439571

>Hating me on me because I feel sorry for you.

[Anonymous No.439769]

>>439708
>Hating on you for being a condescending prick.

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.439952]

>>439415
Will the market crash next week? Thanks in advance.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.440627]

>>439952
The Market is always crashing mate. Ebola + Russia + ISIS = it's happening.

Also in britbongistan right now. Holy fuck UK, you should just rename London to Hijabdon. I swear I've seen 5 Hijab wearing Muslims to 1 white person.

Picture related. View from right outside my hotel.

[Anonymous No.441528]

Looks like a green day today, at least for the german DAX

[Anonymous No.441531]

>>440627
>muslims

Welcome to europe

[Anonymous No.441538]

Doesn't look like it's going to be a very green existence for GMO just by looking at the chart.

Fuck I am afraid. Exiting a Day squeeze downward on Friday with an ADX on the rise. 60m chart doesn't look that good either. Guess this will be another one to wait out.

Somewhat good news is that gold looks like it will explode in either direction within the next week or so.

[Anonymous No.441624]

>>440627
Are you there meeting that guy from the house of lords? I remember you mentioning it months ago to me when the board was still new

We were going to play red orchestra 2 and I forgot to add you on steam

Sorry ;_;

[Anonymous No.441760]

Do you guys recommend stocks or forex for
>a beginner
>more money potential
?

[Anonymous No.441766]

>>441760

Forex is for suckers

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.441927]

>>441531
I thought it was a bit of a hyperbole but as I'm out and about shopping, looks like thinking but hyenas and hijabs (Louis Vuitton and Gucci no less) which is insane to me.

You guys have a lax immigration policy?

>>441624
Yeah, tomorrowrrow. HoL is in recess so he's going to show us around parliament and give us a private tour. Which is nice, but I would have liked to see UK politics in action. See how the brits openly rip on each other with thunderous laughter is a dream of mine.

>tfw no RO2 bro to banzi charge for glorious nippon

[Anonymous No.442073]

>>441927
Our politicans support immigration. I think that's a problem in the long run.

[Anonymous No.442105]

Okay GMO made some kind of recovery today, but I hope that it really does recovery and that this isn't yet another trap.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.442341]

>>442073
UKIP seems to be for stricter immigration policies ans backing out of the EU right?

>>442105
I hope so. At least everything else did well.

[Anonymous No.442509]

>>442341
I wonder how long everything else can keep it up.

I'm in GMO as well, but I am worried about the rest of my portfolio more.

[Anonymous No.442575]

>>442341
Ro2 guy here again, what's your steam Id?

Also I am a UKIP party member please give mr Farage all your money you will see a 25% return trust me I'm an expert

[Anonymous No.442602]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B8cN586JUR8

Please respond to this youtube

Pls

Srs pls

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.442881]

>>442602
I like the general moly video.

>moly
>moly
>moly


>>442575
I don't remember my ID, I'll have to be on my PC at home. Post yours and I'll save it.

>>442509
What else are you in?

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.442882]

RIP Robin Williams

( ;_;)

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443137]

>>440627
>I swear I've seen 5 Hijab wearing Muslims to 1 white person.

Bueno.

>GMO
I did tell you guys not to.

[Anonymous No.443150]

>>442882
why do good ones always die young :(

[Anonymous No.443167]

>>443137
What do you think of Isis? (I hope ur not the wrong trip I have in mind) Im that Sudanese anon

[Anonymous No.443188]

>>442602
I love this video

[Anonymous No.443191]

longing GTAT right now been in for about 3 weeks missed the best buy in at 13.5 because I bought too early when it fell

still got it at 14.75 now at 16.3
probably sell at 17ish

also bought apple when it went down to 94

anyone got anything interesting in their portfolio

[Anonymous No.443223]

>>442602
what the fuck
is he trading??

[Anonymous No.443231]

>>443167
Iran, Iraq, US and UK special forces, kurds supported by the US and the USAF will defeat their standing army and they will melt back into the population to fight an insurgency as they have been doing for over 10 years

if it was going to generate an oil shock it would have done so by now

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443235]

>>443167
I hate Shias as much as they do but they're taking it a bit too far. I'm mixed on it. Main concern is the Zionists killing Palestinian kids.

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443238]

>>442602
so glad I don't know that feel. fucking hell lmao

[Anonymous No.443281]

Wow, I'm glad I didn't buy into this earlier.

But now that it's this low, I think I might buy in.

Can someone summarize the situation and explain why /biz/ is banking on GMO?

[Anonymous No.443286]

Wipe picked it out of a hat as some show of board solidarity. I'm not buying that shit though.

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443306]

>>443286
it's not his problem that there are people in these threads that are too lazy to find stocks of their own. If they're going to listen to someone on the internet then they deserve what's coming.

He could say buy doge despite it getting run into the ground and lose people money, its not his problem because Anonymous Imageboard, no one knows who he is etc.etc.

[Anonymous No.443313]

>>443306
I wasn't saying whether it was a good idea or not.

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443348]

>>443313
neither was I, all I meant was that whoever took advice from someone on the internet without doing any actual research themselves deserve the losses

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.443396]

>>443306
Actually the vast majority of the people that bought GMO back when I and a few others suggested it made off with 20% gains when it shot up from $1.03 to $1.24.

I'm still holding that but that's because I had 1K to throw away for the lulz. Still stopping at only an 8% loss. Other stocks are where my money is and one was up 5% today.

[Anonymous No.443404]

>>443396
I wasn't paying attention to the board when it was that high. Did people actually sell?

[Anonymous No.443405]

>mfw I made almost 10k just this month shorting GMO

[Anonymous No.443413]

Well at least it didn't drop as far as I expected it to. It reached new lows, but it didn't close on a new one.

[Anonymous No.443418]

Wait fuck spoke too soon. Just jumped down from 0.965 to 0.93 the second market closed.

[Anonymous No.443422]

any idea whether TKMR is going back up to anything around yesterday's close or I should wrap it up and save my earnings?

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.443435]

>>443348
Also are you that wealthy Muslim fellow in London? I was at Harrods today and I figured that's the area you live in since it's little Saudi Arabia. Had high tea at the Mandarin Oriental. You near that location of anywhere near Westminster?

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.443437]

>>443404
Yeah a few people treated their significant others out to a steak dinner on GMO.

>>443405
Glad someone is making money

[Anonymous No.443457]

LET'S GET THIS SHIT STARTED

>General Moly

[Anonymous No.443460]

>King

[Anonymous No.443541]

>>443235
>burying women and children alive
>a bit too far

kill urself

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443593]

>>443435
Emirati/Paki yeah. And nah, thats more C.London, how long you here for?

all dem hijabis mang hnggg

>>443437
huh. I always scaled that tip as being as hot as buying doge. my bad in that case.

How you finding London anyway? Weather has gone to complete shit since Friday

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443595]

>>443541
hence "too far" you moron

They're Sharia extremists and see Shia muslims as those who are violating Sharia law, hence the killing. I see it as unfair because there is no trail, its just straight up murder with no evidence to support the Death sentence.

fuck off.

[Anonymous No.443599]

>>443595
God damn, you're fucked in the head.

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443601]

>>443599
how?

[Anonymous No.443603]

>>443601
>I see it as unfair because there is no trail, its just straight up murder with no evidence to support the Death sentence.

>implying it would be fair to execute unarmed men, women and children because of some petty difference in religious ideology if they stood trial first

like i sed, kill urself u filth

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443606]

>>443603
>implying it would be fair to execute unarmed men, women and children because of some petty difference in religious ideology if they stood trial first

It's not only religious ideology though, stop talking shit. Go back to rooting for Israel and calling it self defence you stupid twat.

[Anonymous No.443611]

>>443606
Wow, what a strawman, but good attempt to backpedal your defense of mass murder.

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443625]

>>443611
>defence of mass murder
>I actually said "I see it as unfair" and "too far"

IQ of a nigger? 3bn al me7nakah

[Anonymous No.443627]

>>443625
>>443603
>loses and circles back to his original point but can't form a rebuttal so he calls people pro-Israeli niggers

Inhaling helium is a painless way to off yourself, FYI.

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443651]

>>443627
>loses
loses what?
>can't form a rebuttal
I'm not sure what your point is, you came along mad as fuck telling me to kill myself because you made an assumption off of one of my posts. Not only that but you tried to tell me that men women and children can get executed for "some petty difference in religious ideology" when that isn't actually the case. Clearly you actually don't know what's going on, and judging by that you probably think Israel are the good guys because the media tell you so.

Yes, I'm mad. I hate it when someone tries to tell me about my religion when they actually have no fucking idea themselves.

[Anonymous No.443653]

>>443651
didn't read lol

stay butthurt, slime

[Anonymous No.443669]

>>443653
He has a point, and you pretty much contradicted yourself

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443670]

>>443653
>loses and can't form a rebuttal so he insults you.
it's ok, really.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.443671]

>>443593
>>443593
Here until Thursday evening before heading off to France. Then Swtizerland. Been here since Friday and I'm enjoying the weather. Anything is better than 100+ Texas degree weather.

As for London in general? It's fairly decent. Forgot how expensive it is. Lol'd when I went into Cartier and asked them for a pair of sunglasses I already owned. Thing was marked as 1,099£ when I paid only 1,099$ back in the states.

I'll have to come back since the HoL is on recess until October, and I really want to sit in during a session since only invites and members are allowed to attend (except the queen, prince, and steward of course) which would be quite an honor.

The hijabs are kind of lulzy though. Some some chick swearing one with booty shorts never ceases to amaze me. Also, all these rundown slags (proper term for lowlife women right?) Wearing those half shirts and exposing their guts makes me pretty sick. Why is that shit even acceptable here?

You should come into central London today or Thursday. Right on Westminster bridge with a lovely view of Big Ben is where I'm at.

[Anonymous No.443708]

>>435408
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reAZiJlEuL8
Original song before it was niggered.

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.443714]

>>443671
No can do, mum and dad don't get back till next wednesday so can't leave siblings at home.

And yup, shit over here is always overpriced. How chavs survive is beyond me.

lel, hijabis. those are the ones that are also fucking those muslim dudes with beards. Thankfully there are more Modest hijabis than hoejabis.

No idea, slags are in abundance during the summer. Hell, even in the winter they are in abundance. Bit of sun and white people strip naked.

[Anonymous No.443722]

are there any platinum graphs on forex?

i invested when it was high a few days back, as i was incredibly stupid and now it keeps going down

i stand to lose up to a thousand

is there any hope of reducing the losses to a 100 or maybe even gain something from it?

[Anonymous No.443769]

>>443722

Of course if it goes up you can reduce your losses but that's it or if your broker allows you to write call contracts against your long positions you could reduce the loss, but the capital would be tighed up until expiration.

[Anonymous No.443947]

>>443671
You don't get mad at your wife not wearing a hijab? Thats odd since you are a Muslim

[Anonymous No.443951]

this thread is why no one likes tripfags

>trading thread
>Wipe and !X1ziipPzZo derail it with their shitty posts

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.444163]

>>443951
Am I doing good, senpai?

[Anonymous No.444257]

>>443593
>>443235
a paki muslim extremist in London... 3edgy5me.
>>443651
>men women and children can get executed for "some petty difference in religious ideology" when that isn't actually the case.
well it is petty especially considering muslims are arguing about fiction... even if you believe it to be true, it's still petty to kill someone over what happened 1000+ years ago.

>>443714
>mum and dad don't get back
>>443671
>You should come into central London today or Thursday

you've just attempted to lure a little paki kid into your hotel room...

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.444411]

>>444257
>Paki muslim extremist
no evidence for such a claim.
>well it is petty especially considering muslims are arguing about fiction... even if you believe it to be true, it's still petty to kill someone over what happened 1000+ years ago.
you do realise I'm not supporting it, right?
>you've just attempted to lure a little paki kid into your hotel room...
20 years old you moron, most arab/asians live with their parents till they're married or whatever. I was going to move out for uni but dad offered to pay travelling expenses because Student Finance would only give me peanuts if I lived away due to my parents income. Just because your parents couldn't afford to keep you at home doesn't apply to everyone else.

who's the edgy one now?

[Anonymous No.444431]

>>443460

How was your game of Candy Crush on the way in this morning? Did you get the little fruit things all lined up?

King Digital Entertainment (KING) plunged after hours yesterday after reporting lagging sales of the game in the second quarter, dropping as much as 26 percent, and it’s not looking too healthy this morning either. It’s trading in Europe at a little north of $14 after settling at $18.20 in New York.

It’s because Candy Crush is pretty much over, and those who are surprised that a video game you’ve been playing on Facebook or your phone for two years now is no longer the must-have piece of entertainment are probably among those still enthralled by Gangnam Style.

“Candy Crush declined more than we had expected,” Sonali Basak quotes King CEO Riccardo Zacconi as saying during the conference call yesterday.

Really? Wasn’t much of a surprise here. This product isn’t exactly Grand Theft Auto.

The stock has dropped 19 percent since its IPO on March 25, and we’re surprised that’s all. We’re surprised also that this is a publicly traded company.

Same with Zynga (ZNGA), which priced at $10, opened at $11 and now trades for $2.86.

What is surprising is that our screen showed 11 of the 13 analysts who cover the company had buy/overweight/outperform ratings on the stock going into yesterday, with the other two rating the shares at neutral or the equivalent. Among them we saw price targets of $24, $28, even $31.

Not so today. Five ratings were reduced overnight to hold or equivalent, and the price targets have come down (although that $31 marker is still flying under the flag of Cowen & Co.).

Now you tell us.

Who knows how or where lightning strikes?

We hear Psy is also trying for another hit.

>http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-13/playing-candy-crush-this-morning-didn-t-think-so-opening-line.html?cmpid=yhoo

[Anonymous No.444437]

>>444411
>I hate Shias as much as they (ISIS) do
>hijabs=moderate ; no hijabs=hoes
>death sentences based on sharia law are perfectly fine
not extremist at all

>hates other muslims as much as Isis lunatics
>does not support killing of muslims

for a 20 year old your cognitive skill are that of an autistic 11 year old.

>most arab/asians live with their parents till they're married
most asians have 2 jobs doing 70 hours a week by the age of 7.

>your parents couldn't afford to keep you at home
wow, a 20 year old is actually taking pride in being a house pet and not having the balls to be independent...

>you've just attempted to lure a little paki kid into your hotel room...
point still stands - a 12 year old paki kid in a 20 year-old manchild's body.

[Anonymous No.444440]

sexts get for GMO is kill 4ever

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.444458]

>>444437
>I hate Shias as much as they (ISIS) do
so? I also hate dogs opposed to cats, whats your point?
>hijabs=moderate ; no hijabs=hoes
But I didn't say that. what I actually said is "Moderate hijabis" and "hoejabis" as in, Hijabis that dress moderately and "hoejabis" - Hijabis that fuck those dudes that come straight out of the mosque after prayer and aren't modest at all. Just because a girl doesn't wear a hijab it doesn't make her any less religious than one that does if she prays and follows the religion. Stop putting words in my mouth.
>Death sentences based on sharia law are perfectly fine
So killing someone for killing someone else is wrong?

>hates other muslims as much as Isis lunatics
>does not support killing of muslims
see the words >too far and >unfair
I didn't know disliking someone or a group of people meant you want them killed. Bit extreme, no?

>most asians have 2 jobs doing 70 hours a week by the age of 7.
not everyone is born as a poorfag

>wow, a 20 year old is actually taking pride in being a house pet and not having the balls to be independent...
I take it you didn't read >I was going to move out for uni, not to mention you're making another assumption by saying I "don't have the balls to be independant"

not much of a point there my friend.

[Anonymous No.444494]

well well well

[Anonymous No.444507]

>>444458
>so?
ISIS kill shia out of hate. and since you hate them as much... what I'm saying is - just give us a heads up before going "alahu akbar" all over oxford circus, kay? thanks

>Sharia Law
so getting flogged after drinking a pint is perfectly fine? Or amputating limbs for stealing? religion of peace...

>bit extreme?
yeah, you said you hate shia as much as Isis do. And they're killing shia children...

>don't have the balls to be independant
well look at what you said:
>it's customary to stay until marriage and not at all weird or pathetic in the 2014
>your parents can afford to keep you - that's just...sad. very sad.

and no balls - you've never lived separately; you can't survive on your own; super rich mommy and daddy can't lend you some money for rent? can't work and study at the same time?
>#NoBallsCrew

[Anonymous No.444521]

>>444431
Holy shit, analysts think it has a minimum market cap of 7B. Damn.

[Anonymous No.444549]

CMG is going to 1000

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.444576]

Got a good tip about investing in Barclays. Apparently they're lobbyist are fixing rates here in the UK. Thinking about buying a few shares here and there of our UK bros companies.

I suggest Ameri-bros do the same.


>>444507
>Thinks all Muslims support Sharia law
>Thinks Muslims that dislike the Shia population = ISIS

I know life is easier to lump everyone together but it's wrong to do so. Support of death penalty (eye for an eye in sharia) is not the same as supporting the flogging on someone for drinking.

Also if you think the leaders of ISIS are waging a religious war then you're flat wrong (although it's easy to mistake the motives of the followers as the same as the leaders, the followers think theyre fighting for God because they're retarded and don't know better). Leaders of ISIS want a monopoly on all dat glorious oil (the secured Iraq's largest refinery, 2B a month) while they tell the proletariat the whole "for Allah" garbage.

[Anonymous No.444612]

>>444576
I never wrote that. here's a simple version
>ISIS kill shia muslims
anyways, I'm just trying to figure out why this edgy fuck want to kill shia children... that's all. oh, and when he plans to bomb oxford circus. I can't be bothered with losing my limbs until Tuesday.

Barclays huh... aren't they closing up quite a few branches, firing people and got a hefty fine for rate fixing?

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.444638]

>>444612
>so getting flogged after drinking a pint is perfectly fine?
you clearly know nothing about the religion, you probably also think women are the only ones that get stoned for being promiscuous, while the men just get a slap on the wrist. please stop, you're just proving how much you get spoon fed by the western media without demanding any actual facts.

>you've never lived separately; you can't survive on your own
but you don't know that, how you can use the word "never" is beyond me. You need to stop with the assumptions too. Because so far not one has been right.

>I'm just trying to figure out why this edgy fuck want to kill shia children
But I never said that, nor do I support it. They're children you stupid fuck, they don't know whether they're shia or sunni, they just see themselves as muslims and are wondering why other muslims are extremist to the point of killing their own. They've done nothing wrong.

>oh, and when he plans to bomb oxford circus.
back to >>>/pol/ with you

[Anonymous No.444639]

>GMO currently at 0.97

Man im seriously thinking about starting a position here. Not sure if it will go up or down but anything below $1 for this stock seems like a good deal.

Just currently there is a 2100 block order to buy shares @ 0.94.

Theres also an order for 10,000 shares at 0.99 pending.

Fuck. What do?

[Cal !7p6ZFzW.pU No.444669]

Not a bad day, but not great- on par with the sp500

[Anonymous No.444674]

>>444638
>you probably also think (insert some argument in attempt to make islam look better).
no no no - I prefer primary sources of info.

also it's incredibly ironic that you're talking about spoon feeding while living with your parents at 20.

look, I'm trying to have a decent discussion with wype about an investment opportunity. I know it's hard for you but please keep this professional.

If you can't, just leave. go kill some puppies or flog some women for smiling or whatever shit you muslims are into.

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.444685]

>>444674
>no no no - I prefer primary sources of info.
your arguments don't support that.

>decent discussion
>consists of one sentence.
>tells me to keep it professional and then goes on to insult me
Its ok, I've proven my point.

[Anonymous No.444703]

dat Intermune

[Anonymous No.444729]

>>444685
yes, you've won an argument on an internet forum thread.good job - you're a winner.

except for that part about bein 20 and living with your parents as a house pet. that's very very sad.

and killing puppies for amusement.

yeah, apart from that you've won. good job.

[Anonymous No.444732]

What do you guys think of the financial sector right now?

I'm looking to get some exposure and so far I am thinking BAC or STI.

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.444740]

Is there any consensus about the impending Alibaba IPO?

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.444751]

>>444740
massively overpriced, buy shares into one of the shareholders. Yahoo dun goofed on this one

>>444729
ty :3

I didn't say I kill dogs, stop being edgy.

[Anonymous No.444767]

>>444751
Who are the shareholders?

[Anonymous No.444784]

>>444751
of course you don't. you're basically a family dog yourself...

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.444791]

>>444740
More interested in the year 20XX when SpaceX goes public.

[Anonymous No.444812]

>>444740
It looks like it is going to blow up in a bad way because of all the positive attention it is getting. I don't want to experience another Facebook.

[Anonymous No.444822]

>>444812

Facebook dropped at first, but if you held it, you'd be sitting pretty.

[Anonymous No.444826]

>>444822
Yeah, but I thought that one anon is interested mostly in taking advantage of the IPO. I remember doing that with VJET and that turned out great, but FB turned out TERRIBLE.

I averaged out with FB in the end after selling and buying back in again, and I am up now, but fuck that was a terrible ride.

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.444837]

>>444767
Softbank and Yahoo

>>444784
pic related.

Why are you so mad about what I choose to do anyway? your parents kick you out or something?

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.444919]

>>444791
>20XX

Someone played a lot of video games in the late 80's early 90's.

>tfw playing mega man
>game starts with prolog
>set in the year 21XX

Why could the never settle on a proper date? It's not like any of us will be alive to call them out on it.

[Anonymous No.444944]

Would it be a good idea to sell Sony stocks tomorrow? their biggest exclusive was announced for PC today and its gonna hurt PS4 sales.

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.444972]

>>444944
Sony looks to be dying a slow death so it might be in your best interest to do so. The PS4 is fine but their other businesses aren't doing well at all.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.444987]

>>444972
Agreed. Sony is losing out in pretty much every industry aside from film (last time I checked they were doing well) and consoles. Which is good in it's own right but nowhere near the powerhouse they used to be.

>>444826
I remember VJET

[Anonymous No.444995]

>>433721

What are some safe and boring stocks? By that I mean they typically follow market trends and don't tank or skyrocket on earnings reports and news.

[Anonymous No.445012]

>>444987
There was some action in VJET not too long ago that I caught, but it is just going back and forth right now. I really don't want to touch it anymore, but that IPO buy in nearly doubled my portfolio because I threw out everything that had lost me more than 10% within the last year as well as 2 out of my three blue chips and bought in like a retard in the /econ/ days.

It was pure luck, but shit was I satisfied after my stop got hit that Tuesday all those months ago.

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.445031]

>>445012
If you're down over 10% you might as well just hold the position until the company improves or gets acquired. Just my opinion anyway, I'm in a few of those positions right now.

[Anonymous No.445035]

>>444995
If you want boring, go for a large ETF

[sky No.445059]

>>445031
>If you're down over 10% you might as well just hold the position until the company improves or gets acquired. Just my opinion anyway, I'm in a few of those positions right now.

Obviously you have not been through the GFC to see how dangerous that kind of thinking is.

All big losses start off as small losses.

[Anonymous No.445063]

>>444995
Try some of those commission free ETFs. My dad held a bunch of them before he gave me complete control over his portfolio and he had been sitting on them for at least 3 years with little more than 5% gain.

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.445064]

>>445059
if you weren't ready to lose all of that money in the first place it shouldn't really matter to you.

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.445065]

>>445064
Were*

[sky No.445075]

>>445064
But why lose 100% when you can just lose 10% and move on?
Huge opportunity cost as well in holding on to crap that doesnt move.

Also you can always sell it and buy it back later.

Though if you're some deep value Buffet style investor and you've done your hw, then thats another story

[Anonymous No.445131]

Any advice for someone who would like to make a decent sum of money quickly who doesn't have a lot to invest? Around $2500.

I don't know a lot, but I've managed to make money so far.

[None !X1ziipPzZo No.445138]

>>445131
>$2500
>quickly
Define quickly. If you're talking within a day then you need to be extremely lucky to find a stock before it blows up. Chances of that happening is unlikely, so focus on just making investments without the idea you're going to get rich quick.

Or pick a penny stock and pray. Hard.

[Anonymous No.445139]

>>445131
ASX:BLT

[Anonymous No.445145]

>>445138

Let's say within the timeframe of a year.

Right now, I have about $1000 in AMD which I bought right after they dropped 19%. They seem to be doing that every 3 or so months, and I will sell when I hit a 20% return. It's not bad, but not as fast as I'd like.

I'm thinking maybe an IPO would be a good bet, seeing as how GoPro, for example, doubled in first three or so days, and peaked again a few weeks later. I missed their IPO, but made some money from them anyway.

[Anonymous No.445182]

I don't see many people here talking about their brokers. Who is your broker? Why did you choose them? Or how do you think they compare to their competition?
Know what would be cool? If we had a ranking of brokers to put in the OP for newcomers, but it'd be a lot of work.

[Anonymous No.445213]

HOLY SHIT SEAWORLD

[sky No.445258]

>>445139
watch it crash through 86c support in a few days. Its been a screaming sell for a while now
>>445182
Interactive Brokers, its supremely cheap, has great a great borrows, fuckloads of conditional orders.
Its charts are rubbish though.

[Anonymous No.445365]

>>444995
BRK-B

[Anonymous No.445371]

Is there a sticky I can read about investing?
I have about 6k in an ETRADE account investing in tech and Asia.
Is it better to just read the news and buy stock of companies that I think will do well or follow the recs of investing articles on Investopedia or something?

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.445504]

Any UK bros still around? Got 3 investments for you guys if you want.

I bought into 3 stocks since Tuesday.
>BARC
>SLE
>RHK

Figured these are good buys, especially SLE. Price target on SLE is 40 pence.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.445508]

>>445371
I use word of mouth and /biz/. The more information you have, the better the picture you can create.

Intelligent investor is a good read, and asking around here for clarification on a particular topic helps too.

[Anonymous No.445511]

>>444703
noice
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[sky No.445522]

>>445504
>SLE
Why do you punt in illiquid microcaps in massive downtrends?
>BARC
First earnings upside surprise in a long while - then gets sold down
RHK doesnt look like right code

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.445535]

>>445522
>SLE
Because of reasons. Hint hint wink wink.

Others are my longs but I have a feeling SLE is going to explode soon. Call it intuition

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.445536]

>>445522
Sorry Meany RKH. Rockhopper.

[sky No.445538]

>>445535
Alright whatever works for you
>>445536
Looks like a great short setup. Lower highs and failure to get any traction. In fact I'll try to get some borrows on these. Great shorting potential imo
There would be a LOT of stops at 86

[Anonymous No.445603]

>>445504
SLE are at 2.52

[Anonymous No.445606]

>>445504
SLE as in SLE.L as in Sun Leon Energy PLC?

[Anonymous No.446008]

Fuck you for not posting here in the trading session

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.446011]

>>446008
Sorry, was traveling to France all day and getting situated.

>>445606
San Leon Energy


Also nice spike on GMO. Closed at $1.01

[Anonymous No.446030]

Is it a good time to buy UVXY?

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.446051]

>>446008
Wasn't home until 2 hours from close.

Looking to get back into TSLA tomorrow and hold it until 300 or until I find a reason to sell (which I probablt won't)

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.446102]

So Coke (KO) is buying a 16.7% stake in Monster (MNST). Cramer talked about Coke buying them outright at least a month ago.

I think I'm going to get into Mondelez (MDLZ) before they get bought by PEP or KO.

[Anonymous No.446516]

I've just been mentally shaken the hardest I've been in months.

Up until now I've been trading by the results of my homebrew data harvesting / statistical modeling program, which is the most inefficient piece of shit in the world, but it's been doing passably. Ish. And up until now I was so proud that I came up with it on my own.

Come to find out these fuckers at Cornell developed this: http://www.nutonian.com/products/eureqa/
It hones in on equations that model data, and only keeps the best and ranks them by their simplicity and error.

Between that, and then discovering the community at Kaggle, I'm fucking horrified to find out these gods exist and that I was trying to butt heads with them with my shit-retarded PHP machine learning mess.

tldr; is statistical / technical analysis kill? Should I be as scared as I am?

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.446633]

>>446516
Statistical analysis doesn't have much to offer, in my opinion. People always spout "past performance does not equal future success". If that was true, no one would be using statistical analysis or investing in good companies because that is looking back at what already happened.

Factor in that plus the fact that with the market you are predicting what others think of the business being traded. The market isn't so much of a numbers game as it is a human psychology game. It is very apparent in a fragile market. If you aren't taking psychology of investors into perspective you have already failed.

I think many technical analysis people forget that there are human beings involved. A lot like to pretend that it is just them in their own little world, where their action influences the entire grand scheme of things and it runs its course. That's not the case. For each change in fluctuation of the stock, a real person has made the decision to buy or sell that stock.

Psychology is the way people make it big nowadays. Predicting splits, mergers, and acquisitions and then buying in.

[Cal !7p6ZFzW.pU No.446665]

>>446633
>The market isn't so much of a numbers game as it is a human psychology game.

You forgot to take into account our algo and process driven trading computer overlords

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.446668]

>>446665
Still measuring the past performance made by decisions of sentient beings.

Although, I do like the things certain automated funds can do. Seems to work fine for most people.

[Anonymous No.446696]

>>446516
Don't be scared or else you will end up going nowhere. If something actually does happen just know that you have best girl to hold.

[New Investor No.446718]

What does biz think of my portfolio?

I'm still unsure when I should sell my ACTC. I'm looking for 8-9 cents again, and this time I will sell it.

BRK-B - fuck yes buffet

GMO - to the moon

I love google, and I think this company will take over the world one day (if it hasn't already).

I bought ATX (austrian traded index) because it looked relatively cheap and I was looking for something more stable. Was up about 7% at one point, now I'm down ~4%.

I bought PCYC at ~$124 almost a year ago (when wipe recommended it) and merged my two brokerage accounts (when PCYC was about $95), so the displayed profit isn't real. I'm just break even with that position.


I have about 6k € in cash now. I'm thinking of adding to my small BRK-B position.

[Anonymous No.446779]

>>446718
What trade platform is that

[Anonymous No.446787]

>>446779
brokerjet

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.446797]

>>446718
Oi mate. How do you keep up with the American time difference? I'm in France right now and this 7 hour nonsense is annoying.

I'm surprised you didn't add more PCYC at 90$

[Anonymous No.446815]

>>446797
Britfag here, i wake up at 1pm so american markets are perfect for me.
Fuck premarket though

[Anonymous No.446818]

>>446797
The time difference is no problem for me. When the american markets are open I only have to work for 45minutes (7am to 4:15pm / US market is 3:30pm to 10pm). So, after my work I have sometimes the time to watch almost the whole trading session. I still think I don't have enough time to be a (very) successfull trader/investor/speculator.


Did you buy in at 80 or 90? Biotech is not really my field. I was just investing in it because of you. I should have sold it when it was at 140-150. At least I learned something...

[Anonymous No.446886]

>AMD won't budge past $4.11

[guywithasti !KlCXVHaglA No.446887]

>>433721
I know you guys probably get this alot. I am a kind of upper-middle class 19 year old. I am paying my way through college, my parents offered but I respectfully declined. My grandmother refused to take no for an answer and is giving me $500 a semester. Should I use that money to invest in some easy blue chippers and then toss around in something a little volatile? Its not enough to make or break me, I have $16,000 in savings and $3,000 in my checking. I hate sitting on money that isnt doing anything.

[Anonymous No.446901]

MONSTER FUCKING BEVERAGE

[Anonymous No.446959]

Funny shit, the Russian news today showed up on financial feeds before it showed up on anything I could find on Google. At least a good 10-15 minute lag.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.446988]

>>446818
I bought when it was around 112$ and it hit a stop limit at 132 on it's way down. Bought a stake in PCYC at 97$ with the profits.

[Anonymous No.447037]

Laying Rangers to beat Falkirk tonight @1.71 looks like the best investment opportunity atm

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.447124]

Should have listened to Cramer and bought Gilead when the getting was good at 91 or 92.

[Anonymous No.447197]

>>446887
Its your money do what you want

[Anonymous No.447203]

>>446901
Holy fucking shit how did that even happen. No like really this is baffling to me.

[Anonymous No.447209]

>>447203

read the first news item

[Anonymous No.447214]

>>447209
Yeah, but would that really make it jump this much?

[Anonymous No.447242]

>>446901
fuck man was just discussing this with a buddy last week just based on how the price keeps going up

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.447246]

>>447214
The idea for the jump is that $KO will buy out $MNST fully after a while. Investors believe this is a trial period of sorts. When $KO decides to buy all of the $MNST shares, they have to pay the investors holding the shares to buy them back up (normally at a premium). So if $KO said they would buy all of $MNST for $100 per share, I would expect to see it rise to meet that target within a day.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.447632]

britbros, SLE was at 2.48 when I recommended it and it is now up to 2.72 as of Friday's close.

Making money. In America the spread went from .035 to .045-.05 right now.

[Anonymous No.448273]

>>447632
Good call

[Anonymous No.448654]

It's hard to find this thread, by just looking at the catalag. The picture sucks.


Bump

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.448668]

>>448654
Almost at bump limit anyways. Where is German bro? I'm in Switzerland right now. He should come and meet up.

>>448273
Thanks :)

[Anonymous No.448842]

>>448668
Why should I meet you? Do you have a job for me, or what?

[Anonymous No.448865]

Is there a more recent version of this? Description at the bottom.

[Anonymous No.448895]

Any arguments against investing into Berkshire Hathaway B shares? around 30-50 k

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.448960]

>>448842
Networking and contact information. Especially if I start doing any business in the region. Would be nice to have some eyes and ears.

[Anonymous No.448964]

>>448960
your other half is pakistani, what do you think of everything going on there, assuming you have been keeping up with it all?

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.448986]

>>448964
Are you talking about the Nawaz Sharif nonsense where they're trying to oust the current government? Wouldn't be the first time Nawaz Sharif was exiled.

Taxes are insane in Pakistan. It's supposed to help with local businesses (like 300% tax on imported cars to help local car manufacturers) but instead it just goes into the governments pockets. People are pissed because living conditions are shit and nawaz Sharif is a billionaire.

Also
>tfw I just had an hour and a half long meeting with the Pakistani ambassador.

They're no sweating it until the protesters actually do something.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.449001]

>>448964
Are you talking about the Nawaz Sharif nonsense where they're trying to oust the current government? Wouldn't be the first time Nawaz Sharif was exiled.

Taxes are insane in Pakistan. It's supposed to help with local businesses (like 300% tax on imported cars to help local car manufacturers) but instead it just goes into the governments pockets. People are pissed because living conditions are shit and nawaz Sharif is a billionaire.

They're not sweating it until the

[Anonymous No.449004]

>>448986
Yup. to be honest I've always been opposed to the whole "celebrities becoming politicians" thing, like with Klitchko in Ukraine, stupid idea, But with Imran Khan I'm in support of it, because he is the only politician that cares about the country more than himself, the rest of them are corrupt as shit. Been to his house before (this was years ago) because my dad knew a guy that knew him, but now knows him, the guy lives a simple life. He's not a flashy cunt like most of them.

A shitstorm be brewing.

[Anonymous No.449588]

>>448960
It's about 5 car hours away from me. That's too much for me. Come to upper austria, salzburg or southern bavaria next time.

[Anonymous No.449664]

>>445139
>>445258
haha up 26% today to 1.20

[Anonymous No.449671]

>>445139
>>445139
how did you come up with this stock?

[Anonymous No.449673]

>>449671
I just like their ddRNAi antiviral technology, it has the potential to completely cure hepatitis C in one single injection

[Anonymous No.449709]

>FDO
Can Dollar Tree or Dollar General really make a profit with how much they are planing on paying to acquire it?

[Anonymous No.449714]

Oh boy oh boy. GMO hitting 1.05 on open. Maybe something good will happen for once.

[Anonymous No.449727]

RIP ANAS

[Anonymous No.449815]

can we all just take a second here to have a giggle at bitcoin?

[Anonymous No.449834]

>>446886
Whats that m8?

>AMD at 4.21 today

[Anonymous No.449845]

>>449834
I noticed
sold at 4.19

[Anonymous No.449852]

>>449845
of course you did...
of course you did.

any more hot, one line, predictive analysis today?

[Anonymous No.449856]

>>449852
well, I sold the AMD to hop back in on SLW while it was cratering

bought at 25.34, watched it waver up and down in the 25.30's, it's now up to 25.56 as of this post

[Anonymous No.449858]

>>449856
$25.35**

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.449908]

>>449815
But..but.. my new form of currency! Hard assets are totally primitive! Computer generated coins are worth real money!

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.449928]

>>449727
Wasn't that supposed to be the alt to GMO? Down 27% now... RIP indeed.

>>449588
Will do. I'm on a hunt for a particular Cartier Tourbillion and that might take me to Austria in the near future. In Paris they wanted 83.999,00€ for it. Might find it cheaper here in Switzerland though.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.449938]

Final note: Got a limit order for 500 Shares of SLGYY @ $2.12 per share for full disclosure. Won't be surprised if it doesn't get filled since bid is $2.12 and ask is $2.50

[Anonymous No.449977]

I have some money not in an investment at the moment so I'll ask, do you guys have positions with any of these companies? Would you suggest me starting one, and why? Feel free to suggest other ones not listed.

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.450014]

>>449977
In that list I like WAG PEP and BRK-B. I've been looking at RTN and BA personally but I think LMT is probably your best bet because they are the biggest supplier of arms to governments in the world. I'm waiting for another dip though. Took my attention off it for just a few days and I missed out big.

[Anonymous No.450027]

>>449858
>>449856
Now at 25.73, dayum

[Anonymous No.450121]

>>450027
aaaaand sold at 25.79
>that feel when up 4% after 5 weeks of trading

[Anonymous No.450137]

>>436723
>http://www.edwardothorp.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/beatthemarket.pdf

>published 1967

is this book even relevant now??

[Anonymous No.450741]

Anyone else get the new HYSR email? Are we moon tomrrow?

>HyperSolar Hails International Hydrogen Fuel Advancements

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.450971]

>>450741
Saw that but no reaction. Quite curious. Also 20% on San Leon Energy. Hope you guys got in when I posted!

SLGYY for us in the states.

Also we need a new thread.

[Anonymous No.451000]

currently in on gtat 14.25 was my buy in

just bought mnga as well

need to get a job so I can toss more than 7k into stocks

[Anonymous No.451037]

>>450971

This is like the opposite of the moon. At least GMO is doing alright.

[Anonymous No.451050]

>>451037
sad I didn't buy in at the crash, it was sitting right in front of me giving all the signs of a usual buy in.

[Anonymous No.451059]

is there a good buy-low right now? I'm not currently invested in anything

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.451158]

>>451059
VZ is getting close to buying-levels again

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.451171]

>>451158
I actually just bought $UN so there's that too. I still feel like it could drop back down into the $40 range but I've been following it for so long above $42 I just couldn't resist.

[Anonymous No.451296]

tfw 13% on AMD

[CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ No.451298]

>>451296
Tfw that's only a few cents

[Anonymous No.451318]

>>451298
times a bajillion shares

[Anonymous No.451391]

>>451298

>>451318
this nigga feels me

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.451476]

>>451391
New thread when?

[Anonymous No.451847]

>>451476

Go make it.

[Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan No.451920]

>>451847
Can't. Literally at the top of mount jungfrau

[Anonymous No.451923]

Just move here
>>449730
>>449730