/sfig/ Stocks, Forex, and Investments General

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/sfig/ Stocks, Forex, and Investments General Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Tue Jul 22 08:04:25 2014 No.418771 [DELETED]

Alright while GMO farts around lets get back to the /sfig/ threads and lets talk about the market.

Figured I would make a general for today since there isn't one up.

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Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Tue Jul 22 08:05:12 2014 No.418774
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>>418771
=== Options ===

> https://www.google.com/finance/option_chain?q=NYSE%3AAMD

Options are contracts giving you the right to buy or sell 100/10 shares at a certain price any time until a certain date. A "call" gives you the right to buy ie. going long.

> AMD $3.66 :: September 21st, 2013 Expiration

> $3.00 call costs $0.67 per share ($67)
> $3.50 call costs $0.30 per share ($30)
> $4.00 call costs $0.08 per share ($8)

You can buy a $3.00 call for $67 which gives you the right to buy 100 shares of AMD anytime on or before September 21st at the price of $3.00.

> AMD $3.67 :: January 18th, 2013 Expiration

> $3.00 call costs $0.87 per share
> $3.50 call costs $0.57 per share
> $4.00 call costs $0.38 per share

The prices increase with the further expiration. For $0.20 more cents a share you have allow more than 400% as much time for AMD to meet your expectations. This value beyond the call's "intrinsic value" ($3.67 current price - $3.00 strike price) is called the "premium". Premiums degrade at an accelerating pace as you get closer to the expiration. The $4.00 "out-of-the-money" call has a premium of $0.71, while the $3.00 "in-the-money" call only has a premium of $0.20.

For now, for at least a year, do yourself a favor and only buy options with small premiums. Far "in-the-money" and long expiration. Never buy a contract expiring in less than 2 months until you know why.

... continued ...

Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Tue Jul 22 08:06:16 2014 No.418775
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>>418774
Say AMD was $6.00 in December. That Jan $3.00 call would increase ~275% from $0.87 to $3.00 plus the remaining premium (a few cents). The massive increase in price ie. volatility may actually increase the premium however your call would be so far in the money that this wouldn't happen. I mention volatility as it's important to understand in case you happen to be an idiot and buy an option with a high premium. If a stock just jumped up 10%, there's going to be high premiums, and these premiums will "decay" very fast if the price remains the same.

In other words, always have patience. Never buy options contracts after an extreme change in price. Don't buy options with high premiums.

=============

To start trading options, you're going to have to lie to your brokerage. It's one of those "you need experience to get experience" things. They need you to assert that you're experienced enough so that you cannot sue them for your own mistakes. I'm not recommending you commit fraud, just saying you need experience to get experience. You could possibly do it honestly by being rich and then writing contacts for a few years as a Level I.

> http://optionshouse.com/

Anyway, when you're ready, I recommend going to this brokerage and applying for Options Level II. In order to allow you to trade contracts, they will likely need these requirements...

> trading goal: speculation (ie. you assert that options are throwing darts)
> have a net worth > $25k
> 4 years experience trading stocks, 20+ yearly trades
> 2 years experience trading options 20+ yearly trades

Some brokerages like E-trade will flat out deny you for Level II unless you're a millionaire. Also consider taking advantage of one of their new account offers...

> http://landing.optionshouse.com/test/promo/callawayrazr/201306
> http://www.optionshouse.com/promotions/

Apply for options at your own risk.

Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Tue Jul 22 08:08:06 2014 No.418778

>>418775
Forex:
For a "school", the one on babypips (http://www.babypips.com/school/)) is a decent (and free) school. It goes through all of the basics you should know, or at least most of them - what forex is, how the market works, how price works, how indicators work and so on, and also, they both stress safety, which of course, is important. Doesn't provide a strategy, but explains a lot of stuff in a (relatively) fun way. It also has quizzes that you can do for every segment, and tracks your progress if you check the pages off while logged into an account.

The (forex4noobs/ Nick B) videos I would recommend were:

Candlestick Analysis Basics (1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WryH2xInhM

Support and Resistance (2)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zxqwp5ws7M

Trading Reversal Trades (3)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0RLGGOqkfQ

Software:
https://www.thinkorswim.com/tos/client/index.jsp
http://finviz.com/map3d.ashx

Read Me: Trading options
http://cfe.cboe.com/education/TradingVolatility.pdf
http://www.cboe.com/tradtool/virtualtrade.aspx
http://pastebin.com/qnTrGeKN

Reading Material:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/1jo6vo33ob14f3l/The_Intelligent_Investor_-_BENJAMIN_GRAHAM.pdf

http://www.terry.uga.edu/~akefalas/courses/mirrors/htm

http://www.investopedia.com/term/e/earnings.asp

Watching Material:
https://www.tastytrade.com/tt/shows/WDIS
http://www.outsider-trading.com/paul-tudor-jones-documentary-trader/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/core-finance

Free options webminar starting soon.

https://global.gotowebinar.com/register/137959763

Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Tue Jul 22 08:14:48 2014 No.418781

>>418778
Basic technicals to learn. 50SMA 200SMA.

RSI MACD indicators. Parabolic SAR (support and resistance) These three all developed by

Advanced theory can include Elliott wave
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_wave_principle

and fibonacci
http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:chart_analysis:fibonacci_retracemen

ADX
http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:average_directional_

In my humble opinion, indicators developed by Welles Wilder are the best and most reliable. Being in the computer age of auto trading. I think these are what most systems are set up to use. Thus why they become so apparent in the charts, almost like a self fulfilling prophecy.

Technical trading gives you the ability when learned properly to identify the oversold and overbought areas, where you can then risk your capital. Keeping the stop losses just outside of these boundary just in case we are wrong, keeping losses at a minimum and letting profits run with things like a trailing stop loss.

one might ask, how do you identify oversold and overbought areas. You look for the divergence between price per share and indicator levels.

from chart school : Divergence: A situation that occurs when two lines on a chart move in opposite directions vertically. People often look for divergences by comparing a stock's direction to the direction of its RSI, its MACD or its Stochastic Oscillator. There are two kinds of divergences: positive and negative. A positive divergence occurs when the indicator moves higher while the stock is declining. A negative divergence occurs when the indicator moves lower while the stock is rising.

here are some simple examples. http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school:technical_indicators:relative_strength_index_rsi#positive-negative_re

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 08:35:35 2014 No.418793 Anyone shorting malaysian airlines? It went up 15% yesterday.

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Tue Jul 22 08:42:11 2014 No.418794 >>418793 Looks fucked. Also lol at an airline being worth .23$ in some worthless currency. What's the dollar amount?

Kagney !o0nbfwJ23I Tue Jul 22 08:48:01 2014 No.418797
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So what's the deal with Binary Options? Is it a legit path to follow, or is bullshit like Forbes says?

Because honestly reading that Forbes article, seemed more like they wanted to push people away from a good thing rather than actually educated people. Obviously all form of investment is gambling in some shape or form..

Anonymous Tue Jul 22 08:59:11 2014 No.418802

>>418794
Will look into it in a few hours after work. Browsing from my phone is a pain in the ass.

Google hitting all time high today? I'm up about 15%, I bought ~2 months ago.

Apple good be a good play today because of the earnings report, but I don't know, I'm no daytrader.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 09:00:16 2014 No.418803 >>418802 *could

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Tue Jul 22 09:11:10 2014 No.418808 >>418802 AAPL always looks unstoppable but we are nearing their all time high back in September of 2012. Clear that $100 per share price and its open skies. Be wary of a rebound.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 09:16:48 2014 No.418811 >>418808 So how do y'all think the AAPL earning report will make the stock go down?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 09:17:48 2014 No.418812 >>418808 When is the next iphone release date? Christmas or sooner? I'm still waiting for tha ACTC pump to the 9-10cent range. If it doesn't happen this week, I'll probably sell my shares on friday.

Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Tue Jul 22 09:26:45 2014 No.418817

>>418812
>Next iPhone release date?

Speculation (from leaked sources) is sometime in early September to launch against Samsung's Galaxy Note 4. Rumor has it that the iPhone will release a larger screen (like the S5/HTC) along side their normal sized iPhone.

Honestly, if that's true, it's going to take a larger screen + iWatch to convert me back to Apple (went with HTC One).

>>418811
It all depends entirely on institutional investors. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying out their ass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 09:36:47 2014 No.418818 File: 34 KB, 640x427, 300l.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] were you ready for the CBMX happening, anon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 09:37:47 2014 No.418819 >>418817 I'm sick of these bigger and bigger screens my preference is still the iphone4 because of that I'm waiting on GTAT to bounce back up after its down about 25% in the recent month

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 09:41:13 2014 No.418821 netflix down almost 2% since they didn't meet the expectations

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 09:44:28 2014 No.418824 >>418821 4% now OH GODD

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 09:46:01 2014 No.418826 >>418824 seems like investors are overreacting, get ready for your buy in

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 09:49:58 2014 No.418828 >>418826 Already have some Netflix, have had them since a week or two.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 09:53:54 2014 No.418829 >>418802 >>418812 Looks good already for my GOOGL and ACTC shares.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 09:54:57 2014 No.418830 >>418829 >Google based >Netflix burning down >Apple basically unchanged Market pls, I want Apple to drop

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 10:37:02 2014 No.418872 Netflix, Inc. (NFLX) -NasdaqGS 430.00 Down -21.95 (-4.86%) OH BOY

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 10:41:38 2014 No.418880 >>418830 >Market pls You do know who controls the market? Just joined the game btw, tis gon be gud

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 10:48:19 2014 No.418889 >>418880 >You do know who controls the market? Institutional investors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 10:50:08 2014 No.418890 >>418889 exactly Can I buy from EU markers or is it US only?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 10:58:25 2014 No.418900 GTAT too the mooonnnn

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 11:01:12 2014 No.418904 >>418890 AAPL you mean? Yeah, on XETRA, Frankfurt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 11:03:42 2014 No.418905 >>418890 marketwatch game is US only

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 11:04:30 2014 No.418909 >>418905 k thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 11:15:32 2014 No.418932 >>418771 lol how long have you guys been playing this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 11:16:48 2014 No.418936 File: 112 KB, 894x894, 1401646349430.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>418932 Well, Patrick Bateman have a networth of 7.4B

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 11:18:58 2014 No.418940 $HERO $4.05 (+2.02%) >Earnings tomorrow >Expected +0.02 EPS >Institutional ownership up 4% >CEO and Directors buying back shares Insiders always beat the market. I'm +5,000 at $4.00.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 11:21:22 2014 No.418945 >>418826 I made a quick $1,910 scalp on that support after $429

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 12:31:52 2014 No.419008 I'm so hyped for GILD earning tomorrow!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 12:36:29 2014 No.419016 So, I'm a complete ignoramus. How come GS:US is up 1.68% today although their Managing Director was found dead? Shouldn't that make people flee?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 14:16:17 2014 No.419118 >>419016 There's like 50 GS managing directors.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 14:22:44 2014 No.419129 >>419118 I'm aware, still, people seem to be panic-sell at every little perceived problem, but that drives it up instead?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 14:24:08 2014 No.419132 >>418794 0.23 MYR are 0.07245 USD Pennystock with a market cap of 879.95B wut

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 14:27:18 2014 No.419134 >>419132 *879.95B MYR or 27,719B USD

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 15:41:28 2014 No.419198 File: 280 KB, 752x548, 1380754302295.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>418771 Holy lel African Made Devices is such a shit corp. 80 P/E with EPS of $0.05 Why would people want this garbage?

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Tue Jul 22 15:50:12 2014 No.419215 Top kek at HYSR being up 60%

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 15:53:40 2014 No.419217 >>419215 >eps: -$0.06

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 22 15:56:24 2014 No.419220 Damn haven't seen a biz game thread in forever, I was worried I'm the only one left playing Plug power getting BTFO in the last hour of trading

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 01:40:44 2014 No.419779 Pump

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 01:56:58 2014 No.419782 What are the most hyped up stocks in the market (besides AAPL)?

Anonymous Wed Jul 23 02:32:47 2014 No.419801
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how do you deal with apathy in trading?

I feel like all the hours I've spent have been for nothing and I'm just now even getting a clue about what I have to actually apply myself to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 03:28:25 2014 No.419852 >>419217 It is currently in the research process. Read up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 03:29:35 2014 No.419854 File: 38 KB, 813x326, hjysr.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>419215 It was a very good day for HYSR. Hoping that it continues tomorrow instead of correcting. Posted in the GMO thread earlier.

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Wed Jul 23 03:36:52 2014 No.419855 >>419782 SCTY, INTC, MSFT, BIDU, EMES among many others. Just sit in front of CNBC for a day and you'll see all kinds of discussion (note that most of the stocks they talk about are tech stocks because everyone is a bull)

CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Wed Jul 23 03:41:56 2014 No.419856

>>419855
Another one that gets mentioned like 50x a day is Chipotle (CMG) and all the pharmaceutical companies.

Honestly, all the stocks they talk about are getting too expensive to own without a correction of some sort, so it's all kind of just fluff and them trying to make a profit on things they already own for now. They do have some interesting analyst opinions on there from time to time but they all have their own agendas too.

Some guy was on there talking about AAPL earnings today and completed buried the stock the entire time he was on, as if this quarter really mattered in the grand scheme of things. Pretty much everyone on the panel was like "what the hell is this guy saying?". It was pretty funny.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 04:35:36 2014 No.419879 >>418940 bought in @4.05 yesterday. this better b gud. >>419008 why would you be hyped. the estimate is a rocking $1.61, i can't imagine the stock blowing up even after good earning numbers as it it already hyped

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Wed Jul 23 04:54:53 2014 No.419882 >>419879 Explain why Chipotle gained 70 bucks today after good earnings. Don't underestimate this bull market, especially on what I believe to be its last leg.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 04:57:05 2014 No.419883 >>419855 >>419856 Thanks! What about google?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 05:40:22 2014 No.419896 >sleep from 3pm to 10pm on Monday >develop strategies and lie in wait of pre-open hours and 6:30am opening bell >West Coast lyfe fug

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Wed Jul 23 06:05:29 2014 No.419904 >>419896 I know that feel bro. Sleep from 1am-5am. Wait for PM to open.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 06:28:36 2014 No.419915 File: 17 KB, 612x567, 1353915038838.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>419896 Yup. Don't you just love it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 06:35:28 2014 No.419916 >>418819 I've been waiting for XIN to bounce back up since January.

Anonymous Wed Jul 23 07:33:42 2014 No.419929

is this an ongoing joke? GMO is a bag of shit.
it hasn't gone anywhere, and it probably wont.
The new official /biz stock should be ANAS if you want to make 1000's of % return..

or if you want a solid reporting company, AMBS is making big moves and would be a solid 6 month investment.

each will make a lot more than GMO.. there's even a chance GMO will tank 20 - 50% in the next few weeks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 07:40:37 2014 No.419933 Is it possible to short penny stocks?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 08:21:53 2014 No.419944 File: 119 KB, 1366x768, we moon now.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HNNNG dat PBYI

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 08:23:00 2014 No.419946 >>419944 Reminds me of ICPT.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 08:29:56 2014 No.419951 File: 113 KB, 1366x768, sheeiiit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>419946 well, that must have been some good two days

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 08:31:24 2014 No.419953 >>419944 What the actual fuck?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 08:49:50 2014 No.419969 >>418829 Today even better?!

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Wed Jul 23 09:03:01 2014 No.419982 >>419951 >>419946 I always wonder who's behind that kind of price action.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 09:04:35 2014 No.419984 >>419982 inb4 jews

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 09:05:53 2014 No.419985 >>419982 Institutional investors.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 09:06:12 2014 No.419986 File: 36 KB, 450x370, 1340133639271.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>419982 event-driven institutional investors who waited for the study results?!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 09:39:39 2014 No.420007 File: 144 KB, 312x313, 1336150929193.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>418940 >you >>419879 >you

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Wed Jul 23 09:55:29 2014 No.420019 >>419985 >>419986 Right, I understand this, but of you look at the history you'll see it hit a similar price point before dipping to 50$ Same as this guy:>>419951 They give up 75% of their gains within a year

None !X1ziipPzZo Wed Jul 23 10:12:40 2014 No.420034

>>419929
>The new official /biz stock should be ANAS if you want to make 1000's of % return

on a scale of shooting PRAN to buying DOGE how reliable is this?
I would say its as reliable as buying DOGE post crash, because its going nowhere.

I agree GMO is a bag of shit however.

>>419933
if you own enough and are fast about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 10:24:48 2014 No.420036 I'm in the UK, which of our brokers are worth looking at for smaller investments?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 10:49:56 2014 No.420052 >>420036 define smaller

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 11:01:19 2014 No.420059 Did PBYI just find a cure for cancer or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 11:15:20 2014 No.420071 >>420059 yeah, phase 3 test results were positive apparently.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 11:29:14 2014 No.420084 >>420034 ANAS is a casino pick, if they drop news it goes to pennys. dyodd with AMBS... bio pharma with lots of positive results for trials conducted recently.

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Wed Jul 23 16:21:06 2014 No.420381 >>420034 GMO is just supposed to be a fun pick. Plus a lot of the people that bought in got a 20% gain on it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 16:31:04 2014 No.420394 >>420052 Sub thousand pounds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 16:53:30 2014 No.420413 >>418940 >>419879 >imblign BUY BMRN. GOING TO $80

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 17:26:54 2014 No.420449 >>420381 I'm still in, but I do have a stop at 1.00. It has yet to hit that point, so I am still in. I do wish I sold earlier, though. I feel like I am missing out on PCYC and HCLP shenanigans.

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Wed Jul 23 18:57:59 2014 No.420575 >>420449 I don't blame you. That's why I only bought with throwaway money and not real investing money. At least the majority sold high though right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 19:00:29 2014 No.420578 >>420575 Yeah. I wish I sold earlier, but I don't regret it that much because it hasn't lost me that much either. It just hasn't been moving at all.

Anonymous Wed Jul 23 21:03:55 2014 No.420688

>>419882
Chipotle has been a "hot stock" for some time, that's the only reason it shot up THAT much. And if it hadn't exceeded the earnings estimates, it would have plummeted by just as much if nor more.

Buying right before earnings is basically plain old gambling.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 21:07:38 2014 No.420693 File: 30 KB, 210x188, 5de97b73-ac2c-429e-a60b-a3d8d9bd1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >GILD >reports blowout earnings >down 34 cents AH

CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Wed Jul 23 22:15:17 2014 No.420757

>>419883
Honestly Google is a great pick considering that they will have some kind of car out in 2015 or 2016 officially. Their addition of Alan Mullaly (former CEO of Ford who got them out of a financial crisis) proves that they are dead serious about getting into the business. Not to mention that they have good competitive products coming through the pipeline like a new Chromebook Pixel, Google Shopping, and Google Wallet. Google will never die and your money is safe with them (until they get investigated by federal governments for using customers information against their will/for evil purposes). Now, if only they paid a dividend...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 22:26:33 2014 No.420772 >>420757 That's the definition of hype right there.

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Wed Jul 23 22:40:14 2014 No.420784 >>420772 I've never been a fan of Google products until recently, and I think their information gathering on the consumer is very dangerous, but I can't deny their growth potential is huge.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 23:37:57 2014 No.420817 >>420784 >GOOG knows I have experimented with gay/furry porn >GOOG knows I watched 4 episodes of MLP before realizing how faggy it was >GOOG knows what i've been posting on 4chan for the past 5 years I guess i'm never getting a job at GOOG

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 23 23:38:56 2014 No.420818 >>419944 pump and dump detected.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 01:50:23 2014 No.420934 >>420757 That's why I bought a few months ago. I just don't know when to sell. I think i'll wait at least a year or two.

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Thu Jul 24 03:43:14 2014 No.421023 >>420934 Yeah it's definitely still a growth company. Hold it until serious signs of bad news.

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Thu Jul 24 06:08:09 2014 No.421143 >>421023 Google is the irl skynet

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 06:15:08 2014 No.421149 >>421143 All the more reason to bet on the winning team, then.

>>	SCO Thu Jul 24 08:58:11 2014 No.421263 >>420693 I don't understand that either, at least it's up 1.5% in PM

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 09:15:57 2014 No.421274 >>421263 like i said in another thread, the good earning numbers were already priced in in the hype

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 09:24:34 2014 No.421278 >>421274 Still, i will be shocked if we don't see $100 by next week

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 09:27:47 2014 No.421279 >all these people making earnings plays by buying stock forwhatpurpose.jpg

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 10:02:37 2014 No.421296 >>421279 Money.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 10:34:22 2014 No.421316 >>421296 Shouldn't buy stock then, poor allocation of capital for something so short term.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 10:42:41 2014 No.421324 I think I might have missed the PCYC train.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 12:51:30 2014 No.421410 File: 1.35 MB, 1215x1200, 1400410161751.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just bought into AMD. Small position, about 1/3 of what I would like to put in, so I am prepared for cost averaging if there is a second sudden drop.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 13:22:44 2014 No.421434 >>421316 What do you have in mind?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 13:31:43 2014 No.421443 >>421434 Iron butterfly or collar with strikes OTM (but near) expected move. If you're feeling bold or have extensive experience in a particular stock go short straddle.

Anonymous Thu Jul 24 14:00:17 2014 No.421463

I like water stocks such as XYL and GRC. Water will be the next commodity to surge in price in the next twenty years. If you look at what is happening out in California and the drought that occurred in the Southeast awhile back water is becoming higher in demand. With an exponentially increasing population, climate change, and growing industrialism water will only become more scarce. 70% of the Earth's surface is covered with water, only 1% is fresh. Goldman Sachs even published a report on it:
http://www.goldmansachs.com/our-thinking/clean-technology-and-renewables/cohen/report.pdf

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 14:38:19 2014 No.421496 >>421410 Why would you do that?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 15:05:26 2014 No.421518 >>421496 Not sure exactly. My placebo signals were going off so it made me confident that it had bottomed out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 15:12:07 2014 No.421522 File: 36 KB, 500x494, 1406219564481.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>421443 >short straddle into earnings

Anonymous Thu Jul 24 21:27:03 2014 No.421880

>>421522

yep, its a non-directional play. Plus we're also working with vol crush here. Guess how many earnings stocks blow through their expected move...

hint: a minority of them.

If they do ... well you bought an appropriately sized position right?

roll roll revolution.

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Thu Jul 24 21:55:09 2014 No.421896 >>421463 I just bought 41 shares of AWK today, my water nigga

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 22:08:42 2014 No.421905 Amazon is getting killed in after hours trading. They announced that the lost $126 million on $19 billion in revenue. That's insane.

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Thu Jul 24 22:13:04 2014 No.421914 >>421905 If it gets below $300, it won't stay there for long.

>>	noko Thu Jul 24 22:38:42 2014 No.421932 SLTD, yes it's a penny stock. But this is the new PLUG. Research it.

Anonymous Thu Jul 24 23:00:31 2014 No.421960

What's the point in "after hours" trading if you can buy and sell stocks all the same? Is it just to try and concentrate the amount of trading into a certain time period? It seems stupid to me if trading isn't restricted, why don't people just trade regularly anyways?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 23:03:42 2014 No.421964 >>421960 Liquidity drops massively after hours. You can take on or close small positions if you feel the need. People need time to rest/derisk. Time to do backroom admin stuff, plan your take over of the world, etc...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 24 23:11:45 2014 No.421978 >>421964 ok that's what I thought, just a way to concentrate trading they also release news at that time to not disrupt the daily trading, making it unncecessarily chaotic that's what I thought but thanks for confirming

Anonymous Fri Jul 25 06:21:10 2014 No.422216

In about a week and a half, I'll finally begin my live Forex trading.

Been practicing since January, and I finally feel I'm ready. Got all of the stupidness out of my trading strategy, and have some solid methods in place.

Going to focus on rolling my $5.5k up to $20k (hopefully) by the end of the year. Once I hit the $20k mark, goodbye full-time work. Hello part-time weekends and finally being able to do shit I love doing again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 09:06:14 2014 No.422277 >>422216 Yeah! You know what you should do? Quit your job right now and focus on forex exclusively. You've figured it all out - go into debt and become mega rich! 20k? that's pocket money compared to what you can gain. Quit today!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 10:05:23 2014 No.422309 >>421880 You go take unbounded risk into earnings to capture that "vol crush." I'll keep my account from blowing up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 10:07:17 2014 No.422311 Is it finally GMO's time to shine? Also, has AMD bottomed out yet?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 10:08:12 2014 No.422314 >>422309 Just for example AMZN's ATM straddle went out at 20 yesterday. It's 40 today. But you earned on vol right?

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Fri Jul 25 10:08:40 2014 No.422315 >>422311 Seems so my friend. http://boardvote.com/symbol/GMO/communique/717286

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 10:15:10 2014 No.422320 >>422315 Oh boy oh boy. HYSR also seems to be in a slow upward trend after that spike and fall which is pretty unusual.

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Fri Jul 25 14:05:07 2014 No.422476 >>422320 Bumped up to $1.13 high of today. Currently at $1.10. Everyone how bought in is now up

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 15:45:06 2014 No.422623 >>422476 I can feel the trend reversal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 16:16:04 2014 No.422656 >>422277 How about you eat shit and die you idiot?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 16:27:00 2014 No.422667 File: 14 KB, 555x474, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>422216 >practicing where/how? genuinely interested here also, as a contribution to the thread, what the actual fuck pic related

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Fri Jul 25 16:34:17 2014 No.422687 File: 48 KB, 656x520, GMOTRENDING.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>422623 Looks like a good close putting us back on track.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 16:38:29 2014 No.422694 >>422687 Isn't it against Islam to gamble during ramadan?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 19:04:08 2014 No.422810 Dead cat bounce for amazon on monday?

>>	None !X1ziipPzZo Fri Jul 25 20:10:40 2014 No.422870 >>422694 >buying and selling shares = gambling

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 20:31:20 2014 No.422900 >>422667 You must be new to the markets. Chances are they had a good earnings report. Amazon had the same type of graph today except it dropped over $30 I believe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 20:32:32 2014 No.422902 Also why aren't you all shorting Radioshack?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 20:32:53 2014 No.422903 >>421463 >Water will be the next commodity to surge in price I had that thought once and bought VE. Maybe my mistake was just buying a French company >>421896 AWK on the other hand is a utility and pays a decent dividend

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Fri Jul 25 21:02:28 2014 No.422937 >>422311 AMD: Not yet. After Cramer's burial today it will probably fall more. Don't expect it to rebound at all in any serious way until Q3 if they have some blockbuster number. Seriously, stay away from AMD unless it is at a visible bottom.

CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Fri Jul 25 21:06:18 2014 No.422942

I'm in a conundrum... I don't know whether I should buy Facebook or Gilead. Both have serious room for growth, but also have a lot of risk looking at how this market is. My plan is (I guess) to buy FB and sell it once it passes 90 or 100 and take that money to buy GILD before it's too late. What do you think I should do, /biz/?

Inb4 short PRAN buy GMO

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 22:40:44 2014 No.423029 >>422942 no, buy GMO, its going to the moon. If you read above i didnt support it at first, but buy it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 25 23:45:01 2014 No.423066 I miss my trading days supported myself for 4 years trading forex but every dime I made had to go towards living instead of growing the nestegg

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Sat Jul 26 00:44:39 2014 No.423119 >>423029 Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 01:13:53 2014 No.423144 >>422667 I'm talking about currency speculation (Forex). Your pic looks more like equities (stocks). If you want to demo some forex trading, there's tons of sites that let you do that. I personally go with Finfx.

Anonymous Sat Jul 26 01:16:44 2014 No.423145

>>423066

Get a part time job on the weekends then. Or find something full-time that leaves you with a couple days off during the week, so you can focus on your trading then.

I've found so far (with my demo account), being at my computer 24/5 is not necessary. I just plan out and execute my trades at home, and monitor/close them from my phone when I'm at work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 01:43:49 2014 No.423169 >>423145 I ended up going back to grad school not an option now but I'll keep it as a hobby when I get some more monies flowing in

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 02:31:45 2014 No.423202 so what's the verdict? buy in for GMO? even though their project is approved, they still don't have funding for it....

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 03:38:01 2014 No.423266 I'm probably going to take a few thousand and put it into Apple and Amazon this weekend, any input?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 04:00:33 2014 No.423288 >>423266 You should probably tell us about your goals so we have something to judge that off of!

Anonymous Sat Jul 26 04:15:48 2014 No.423299

>>423169
>I ended up going back to grad school
>not an option now but I'll keep it as a hobby when I get some more monies flowing in

Hey man, you gotta do what you gotta do. Even if something else comes up, and I have to ease off the trading, with a decent account size, a couple of small wins a week (say $400) helps out a lot in the long run.

Once you can control your greed, stuff like forex and stocks can give that nice little financial safety net in case things go wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 04:50:32 2014 No.423312 >>422314 I don't trade AMZN. You'd roll for duration. You would trade AMZN small. You don't have one position. Why are you buying ATM straddles?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 04:51:49 2014 No.423313 >>423288 I look to hold it long, make a couple thousand. If I buy in now and apple hits like $300 I will make about $25k.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 06:13:21 2014 No.423356 Gonna start reading the intelligent investor today 600 pages of reading here I come..

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 06:35:07 2014 No.423368 >>423356 I'm reading it currently (around a third through) and it's awesome. Make sure you get the updated and commentated edition though.

CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Sat Jul 26 19:56:55 2014 No.423898

>>423313
I'm afraid I've got some bad news. I don't think anyone is expecting AAPL to hit over $150 in the short term (6 months). I would say it's safe to buy in now, I already owned stock pre-split, but I'm only wagering that it gets to $120 around the release of the iWatch or before year's end (or Q4's report, whichever comes sooner). There are no guarantees for anything past $120 in my opinion, but I will be holding about a third of my position after I sell just in case.

As far as buying AMZN and just holding it, I'm not sure that's so smart. I personally wouldn't recommend holding anything past like, January, but Amazon specifically isn't doing so hot right now. Stocks that aren't yielding aren't really my style, but I've been thinking in investing in a few actually doing good, like Gilead, Facebook, Tesla, or JD.com. Check those out, I guess. People are expecting AMZN to get to $300 and only then would it appear to be a buy.

Anonymous Sat Jul 26 22:29:08 2014 No.424000

>>418797

I put £200 in, lost 150, now I've clawed my way back up to £230 all in the space of one day. I'm tempted to just quit and be happy with a £30 profit - even when I started applying a bit of thought to my calls and puts I still found I was making bad decisions 1/5th of the time, which really hurts profits. It takes 2 good bets to fix the damage caused by 1 bad one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 22:34:24 2014 No.424006 File: 55 KB, 566x473, Screen Shot 2014-07-27 at 03.32.24.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The fuck happened to Baidu? Their profit report came out on the 24th - why did the jump happen on the 25th?

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Sat Jul 26 23:14:58 2014 No.424051 >>424006 If the report came out after hours on the 24th it would make sense for it to jump that much in pre market on the 25th

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 23:47:22 2014 No.424073 >>424000 If you can't trade you won't earn on any strategy (except bu and hold).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 26 23:59:54 2014 No.424082 >>424073 I'm still torn. If I can get to the £250 mark I'll take out my original 200 and just keep playing with the profits.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 02:38:27 2014 No.424194 >>422903 I've made a tidy profit and a nice dividend on VE.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 07:46:27 2014 No.424324 >>421463 If California would quit being such dicks about reverse osmosis it wouldn't have any problems.

Anonymous Sun Jul 27 08:06:44 2014 No.424333

>Oregon Legalized Marijuana Initiative (2014)
>November 4th 2014

Should i invest in some Marijuana related stocks? They tried legalising it back in 2012 but it was turned down with a 3% margin. Now both Washington and Colorado have legalised Cannabis, and maybe it will tip the odds? What does /biz/ think?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 08:46:12 2014 No.424353 >>424333 I think you're fucking retarded

Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Sun Jul 27 08:48:26 2014 No.424356

>>424333
You would need to find a legitimate pot stock. Seems that all of them are get rich quick schemes with no actual substance.

Maybe a few NEETS in Colorado can start a farm and dispensary that is aggressive and can monopolize the marijuana industry there.

Personally I wouldnt invest in MJ stocks until a company comes along that can demonstrate it's more about making money than getting high off it's own supply.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 08:54:16 2014 No.424358 >>424353 >>424356 Well i wouldn't invest in MJ directly, hence the word of use "marijuana related". I'm thinking companies that produces the equipment for growing facilities and dispensers etc.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 15:44:49 2014 No.424639 Is optionshouse the best brokerage available for just getting into the stock market? Plan on investing at least a thousand to start, see where it goes from there I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 16:00:31 2014 No.424647 >>424356 It is better to invest in supporting industry like labs that verify potency.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 16:04:00 2014 No.424650 >>424639 I use them, fees are reasonable but it hasastupid thing where you have to choose the options fee structure (change it once per day) rather than it automatically choosing the cheapest for that particular trade.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 16:38:49 2014 No.424678 As an extreme beginner, should I open up a margin account or a regular cash one?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 16:45:32 2014 No.424687 >>424678 Definitely margin. I also suggest writing long-term calls on biotech stocks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 16:55:41 2014 No.424705 >>424687 Can you explain why you think so?

Anonymous Sun Jul 27 17:13:45 2014 No.424732

Anyone have some reading material or studies on put options versus just purchasing the stock outright?

I understand the basics (risking a lump sum in order to not invest entirely) but want to see some hard mathematics behind it or just sentiments

I've been avoiding options too long and want to consider adding it to my strategies

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 17:16:11 2014 No.424734 >>424705 Regular trading is about: $$ Margin trading is about: $$$$$$$$$$$$

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 19:00:47 2014 No.424846 >>424678 Do not under any circumstances do margin trading if you're new to investing. Stick with cash account for a few years until you've established a solid, safe investment portfolio, then try to do stupid shit like speculating on margin.

Anonymous Sun Jul 27 19:04:17 2014 No.424847

>>424639
could also try Loyal3 if you don't want to pay fees. They're slow as hell to receive and return money, and you can't time the market worth a damn through them as they do bulk buy orders and bulk sell orders only once or twice a day, not to mention only have ~50 companies to choose from, but it can get you started if you're not looking to invest huge amounts initially

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 19:22:23 2014 No.424859 >>424687 >writing long-term calls on biotech stocks so are you in to suicide or like whats the deal here

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 19:29:22 2014 No.424868 >>424859 Damn man you must be legitimately autistic if you think that wasn't a joke

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 20:34:58 2014 No.424926 >>424868 Is ONVO a good short term position right now?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 20:52:00 2014 No.424949 >>424926 Yes go all in 3x margin with no stop limits because those are for pussies who aren't confident

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 27 23:16:07 2014 No.425142 >>424647 Like who?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 01:03:53 2014 No.425286 >>424949 Cool letting you emotions get in the way of clear thinking, Anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 02:40:49 2014 No.425370 Might buy £100 worth of GMO Good choice?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 02:45:09 2014 No.425372 >>425370 I bought about 2000 dongs of GMO when it was around 1.03 and I am satisfied so far.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 03:04:07 2014 No.425380 >>420693 http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/21/gilead-sovaldi-idUSL2N0MI0UP20140321

Anonymous Mon Jul 28 04:06:23 2014 No.425408

>>424868
There are plenty of legit stupid people on 4chan. Saying something that looks like advice on a board that frequently deals in advice is probably less than ideal!

In any case, another reason to always throw out advice that doesn't include reasoning.

noko Mon Jul 28 08:55:59 2014 No.425525

Thinking of giving up on the stock market. I just keep losing more and more money. Don't know what I'm doing wrong. Thought I had done my due diligence, but all my Chinese solar stocks are tanking due to US protectionist tariffs. Guess I didn't really know what I was doing...

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Mon Jul 28 08:57:21 2014 No.425527 >>425372 Gmo short interest is down 60%

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 08:57:34 2014 No.425528 >>425380 They can shout and scream about it as much as they want but there isn't anything they can actually do to make Gilead lower the price

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 09:01:29 2014 No.425532 File: 10 KB, 276x163, 1385288335112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>425527 I can feel it in my body. T minus 30 minutes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 09:30:48 2014 No.425540 1.13 OPEN Whoa boy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 10:18:03 2014 No.425556 >>425540 >1.09 such is life

Anonymous Mon Jul 28 10:25:37 2014 No.425561

Anyone think UVXY has potential to keep on going from where it is right now? It really really looks like it will exit the squeeze positively, but it is volatility-based. I guess if the happening happens and we get another 2008, it will be a good choice though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 10:44:21 2014 No.425570 I like how every guide in the world tells you about stocks but not where to buy them

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 10:47:55 2014 No.425573 >>425570 You buy through a broker, that is wikipedia tier knowledge

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 10:52:33 2014 No.425575 >>425573 Are there any guides on choosing a broker, I've found 30+ already

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 10:59:27 2014 No.425582 >>425575 It depends on what sort of investing you're planning on doing. If you are just going to buy and hold long term then you are probably better just going for the broker with the cheapest fees

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Mon Jul 28 11:34:45 2014 No.425600 >>425556 >>425540 Just wait for end of day. GMO always has the most action in the last hour. Testing support right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 11:41:17 2014 No.425601 >>425600 There are just 150 bids ready to be filled then a bunch of 1.12 asks up there just hovering around. I am prepared for action in the last 5 minutes before close.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 12:14:31 2014 No.425616 Looking for a stock. p/e under 14. growth, and business not going anywhere anytime soon. Anyone got any tips?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 12:17:47 2014 No.425618 File: 821 KB, 1427x827, 1403632630995.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>425616 GMO might be the stock for you. It has a P/E of a whole -5.89. That's like way under 14.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 12:17:53 2014 No.425619 >>425616 TSLA

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 12:19:59 2014 No.425621 >>425619 Speculative >>425618 Overvalued

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 13:38:51 2014 No.425676 Shit, i should've topped up on GILD last week

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 13:53:05 2014 No.425693 >>425676 I should have topped up on HYSR last week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 14:13:33 2014 No.425714 Wipe has a tiny penis.

Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Mon Jul 28 14:26:58 2014 No.425737

>>425714
#rekt

>>425693
>>425676
GILD has been doing very well since April. Little hiccup when the entire biotech industry was getting smashed.

HYSR would go anywhere today. Just checkout the Twitter feeds for "$HYSR". Activity increases along with the price. When the communications slow down is the time to worry. People are actually speculating sincerely among the pumpers fir HYSR

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 14:32:29 2014 No.425742 >>425737 I bought GILD at $78 in May but i really should've bought more

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 14:34:12 2014 No.425745 >>425616 u rnt gnna find a 14pe grwth stk in dis envrmnt

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Mon Jul 28 14:36:32 2014 No.425750 >>425742 >Should have bought more You were in the right to be concerned about an investment in any biotech and your smaller initial investment was a wise choice with all things considered.

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Mon Jul 28 14:47:31 2014 No.425766 File: 505 KB, 839x1600, GMO.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>425693 >>425676 >>425618 Cross on the MACD and ADX

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 14:54:28 2014 No.425781 >>425750 75% of my portfolio is in biotech and pharma since that's the only sector i have much knowledge of

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 15:17:50 2014 No.425815 File: 23 KB, 342x238, 342px-Buffalo_Wild_Wings.svg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WE BUY BUFFALO WILD WANGS BEFORE EARNINGS WHAT YOU NIGGERS THINK?

Anonymous Mon Jul 28 15:35:40 2014 No.425832

>>425616

Offshore oil drillers have been beaten down lately on concerns about a potential oversupply of ships for the next year or so. That oversupply is expected to turn to a shortage a year or two after that. If you're looking for something to hold long term, they're a pretty good bet. Solid earnings and a pretty good dividend. Check ESV and SDRL. ESV is safer, SDRL is more speculative.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 15:45:13 2014 No.425839 Did anyone else buy El Pollo Loco (LOCO) stock when it hit the market on Friday? Up over 100% from IPO and up over 35% today.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 15:52:43 2014 No.425845 >>425815 Please no

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Mon Jul 28 16:02:58 2014 No.425856 Bought FB today. I wonder how the price will react if Twitter disappoints in their report. Hopefully it'll go way higher.

Anonymous Mon Jul 28 16:11:24 2014 No.425866

>>425856
I bought AAPL at 97.8 today and sold at 99.04.

>>425839
I've been beating myself up for not buying it. I was going to buy it today at around 29.4, boy I wish I did that, or just bought yesterday. I was already in AAPL and it was going up so I didn't want to get in something that risky, but goddamn.

I feel like it's too late now. I missed GPRO too.

>>425845
I'm going all in for these earnings reports, I think they're going to be good, I already bought it in anticipation.

Feel free to laugh at 4PM tomorrow if they miss, I'll be back to laugh otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 16:13:32 2014 No.425870 >>425815 Not a shareholder. But I think there Canada expansion is going to do alright. I see there restaurants busy at odd times. World Cup probably gave them a boost.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 16:43:11 2014 No.425902 How to jump on the consumer IPO train?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:08:33 2014 No.425924 >>425408 >legit stupid people hahahaaahahaha

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:11:40 2014 No.425925 >>425525 Don't buy stocks because they were mentioned in some article or in the news. Think for yourself. Use your brain. What company has real value. What company has a real future.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:17:58 2014 No.425932 >>425737 That's a normal pump and dump technic I've seen since I'm "investing" (1 and a half year). Silence is normally the buy time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:19:20 2014 No.425935 >>425616 >Growth stock with P/E under 14 I think you're looking for NOPE Ltd.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:20:19 2014 No.425936 >>425766 Since when are you that much into TA? Did you shadow the trader, you've learned from, even more?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:25:01 2014 No.425940 >>425408 >getting advice from 4chan If he did a flip off an office building after taking that advice he would've done humanity a service.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:30:00 2014 No.425948 File: 34 KB, 500x667, 1405722802732.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>425866 >I've been beating myself up for not buying it >it was going up so I didn't want to get in something that risky, >I'm going all in for these earnings reports kek

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Mon Jul 28 17:34:42 2014 No.425953 >>425866 Why sell when it still has plenty of new products to announce in the year and earnings are behind them? I just don't understand why people aren't holding it long term, unless they are trading parts off of their core positions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:38:48 2014 No.425961 >>422687 MACD, RSI and moving averages suck. Trendlines are good as well as floor pivots, camarillas, market profile, and linear regression lines/curves

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:39:50 2014 No.425967 >>425953 Retailers hate trends

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:42:25 2014 No.425970 >>425961 What are camarillas? Never heard of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:50:35 2014 No.425982 >>425970 Camarilla pivots http://pivotboss.com/2010/05/31/the-camarilla-equation-explained/

Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:53:04 2014 No.425985

>>425948
You right, I'm doing one of the most risky things there is yet I complained that was too risky.

The only thing that was wrong was I already owned that AAPL stock today, and I would have killed myself I bought that LOCO stock right before it starts dropping, that was very volatile and making big movements.

I wasn't up for going from making a decent amount of money to potentially losing quite a lot.

>I'm going all in for these earnings reports

Come back and laugh 4PM tomorrow.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:54:26 2014 No.425986 >>425970 >>425982 Sounds like a gang or the mafia

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:54:44 2014 No.425987 >>425982 Ok, thanks. I definitely agree with you that looking at price levels is better than following indicators like MACD, RSI, etc.

Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:58:00 2014 No.425993

>>425986

>Sounds like a gang or the mafia

Yea something funky like
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Ndrangheta

>>425985

I'm laughing because you clearly have no strategy. You're just running around like a chicken with its head cut off. Why would you beat yourself up over an ipo that popped 100%? That happens all the time.

Anonymous Mon Jul 28 17:59:54 2014 No.425997

>>425953
I fully agree that it's going up throughout fall as they release the iphone6 and other products. If there was one stock I had to put money in right now and leave it there for a while, it would be AAPL.

I don't hold stocks for long, I'm mainly a swing trader and sometimes a day trader. I bought the AAPL stock today, sold it today. I bought BWLD and I'm waiting to see how that turns out.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 18:01:05 2014 No.426000 >>425993 >Why would you beat yourself up over an ipo that popped 100%? That happens all the time. Because I missed 100% gain that I could've bought and was planning on buying throughout that rise?

Anonymous Mon Jul 28 18:04:32 2014 No.426003
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>>426000

No because you're dumb. TRLA and FDO popped 20%. You gonna kick yourself over that too? Here's a boot. You're gonna need it everyday that market opens.

Anonymous Mon Jul 28 18:11:39 2014 No.426010

>>426003
I think you're taking "kick myself" too seriously you fucking retard. Saying "damn I wish I did" that is what I mean by kicking myself.

I do that almost everyday in the stock market. You act like you're happy you missed out on a 100% gain or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 18:16:23 2014 No.426016 File: 50 KB, 479x370, 1405622759199.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>426010 You sound perturbed. The truth hurts. Most people don't like accepting it and instead continue to lose money in comfortable denial. You are well on your way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 18:19:31 2014 No.426020 >>426016 BTW, any ATM vertical spread can produce 100% gains. The opportunity's there every week. But you wouldn't know that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 18:26:58 2014 No.426035 >>425935 I said some growth not fucking a growth stock. Its easily findable. Example Ford. Growth YOY P/E Under 14. I'm already in it. I'm looking for other ideas though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 18:32:17 2014 No.426045 >>426035 AKA as GARP but if you're not fully retarded you already know this. Which you didn't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 18:45:31 2014 No.426062 >>426045 How do you forecast expected future growth rates?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 18:55:18 2014 No.426073 >>426062 Analyst Guidance, Company Guidance, Commodity Guidance X Production Guidance, Dart Board?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 28 22:20:47 2014 No.426302 >>426062 If you are talking revenue and earnings growth, just look at the 1, 3, 5, and 10 year trends; then add the disclaimer "past performance does not guarantee future results"

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Tue Jul 29 10:11:43 2014 No.426850 PCYC tearing it up

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 10:15:44 2014 No.426852 File: 18 KB, 400x347, sadkitteh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] GMO is kill

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 11:11:10 2014 No.426891 >>426850 You invested too? So glad I made the call

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 11:14:47 2014 No.426894 I love seeing HLF getting trashed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 11:25:28 2014 No.426903 NEWL stock going ham right now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 11:27:35 2014 No.426904 >>426903 is it too late to jump on that train?

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Tue Jul 29 11:33:49 2014 No.426908 >>426891 Bought in the low 90's. My oncology bro gave the tip. If you're interest I have some more biotech for you to watch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 11:43:32 2014 No.426921 >>426908 Please do, I am interest

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Tue Jul 29 11:49:44 2014 No.426923 >>426921 >FMI >SNSS

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 16:11:07 2014 No.427122 >>426923 Thanks. Can you tell us why we should watch them?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 16:16:04 2014 No.427125 >>426923 SNSS looks like it already finished exploding or is at least is at it's peak. FMI looks pretty promising. Is biotech finally back?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 16:20:01 2014 No.427129 >>418771 Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 16:37:11 2014 No.427152 >>421522 short 39 straddle on TWTR currently 500% underwater.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 16:44:16 2014 No.427158 >>427125 what about FMI looks promising?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 17:02:32 2014 No.427174 File: 4 KB, 405x93, thanks windstream.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] th-thanks windstream

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 17:50:10 2014 No.427215 >>425985 >Come back and laugh 4PM tomorrow. ROFL and LMAO up in after hours

Anonymous Tue Jul 29 18:29:51 2014 No.427247

I've never invested before. I've currently worked, and have about 25k saved up. I know some basic terms (put versus call options, american/bermudan/european, short-and-distort, pump-and-dump, etc) from skimming over investopedia, but how do I actually go about getting my feet wet with investing?

Do the richanons have any crash course survival package of note?

Anonymous Tue Jul 29 19:27:14 2014 No.427346

>>427174
I sold my CTL premarket around $44.60. I couldn't find any specific news, but figured it had to do with the Windstream REIT deal. Bought CTL back later in the day at $40

In hindsight I should have done the same with AT&T, but it was only up 5% premarket.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 19:42:00 2014 No.427366 >>427247 Yes, all you have to do is buy NEWL Nah, just kidding. Start reading The Intelligent Investor by Ben Graham, the Richest Man in Babylon and A Random Walk on Wall Street as a start.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 20:14:53 2014 No.427410 >>427366 I've read Richest Man in Babylon which felt like it was repeating the basics in basicese. Not that I don't respect the value of saving, and owning your own property, but I'll look at the other two books as well. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 20:21:24 2014 No.427420 Anyone else make a quick buck off of TWTR's earnings? I bought 2 minutes before closing bell then sold after hours with a 36% gain. Made about $700 off my $2k.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 20:22:54 2014 No.427424 >>427420 Nope, I would've thought FB ate too much of their pie and hesitated to buy.

Anonymous Tue Jul 29 20:28:57 2014 No.427438

>>427424
That's sucks mang, I knew they were going up but never thought this much.
As a teenager (inb4 ban im 18) everyone I know uses twitter and it just keeps getting more popular so I knew it was a good buy. Also with their new ads and the World Cup it was obviously a good quarter. The only people that use FB now are parents really and FB knows it which is why theyre buying all this other shit (oculus rift, whatsapp) to try and compensate for losing their grip on the biggest social media demographic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 20:32:26 2014 No.427447 >>427438 Yeah, in hindsight, I was being pretty idiotic. Really don't know enough about it so I thought I'd be happy enough after having bought FB last week. Oh well. Can't wait for the reports from TSLA and GPRO though. Fingers crossed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 20:36:18 2014 No.427459 >>427447 Same here, I'm pretty sure about tesla doing well but gopro not so much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 29 20:37:06 2014 No.427461 >>427438 Cool analysis, bro

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 05:25:39 2014 No.427898 >>424333 >>424353 >>424356 >>424358 >>424647 Well, doesn't anyone got an opinion on this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 06:05:17 2014 No.427906 >>427898 "have"

Anonymous Wed Jul 30 06:49:23 2014 No.427930

>>427898
You should buy the marijuana sector focused mutual fund. It has a very diversified portfolio of companies all along the supply and production chain. Growers, hydrogear, the dispensaries, and the companies that make those wicked glass bongs.

Ticker symbol is PTHED

>>	Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Wed Jul 30 11:42:50 2014 No.428086 >>427122 >>427125 >>427158 Up for a combined total of 10% since this post.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 16:23:47 2014 No.428372 >>428086 Why didn't I listen?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 17:36:01 2014 No.428459 I thing gold is going to drop again soon. I see a lot of these gold ads on the TV lately.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 30 17:42:12 2014 No.428470 So are Investopedia's tools really good for learning how to trade? Even though I read it and have a basic understanding now of stocks I still don't have a fucking clue how to start.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 31 06:18:50 2014 No.429155 >>428372 because you can't have confidence in anything if you don't understand it, you should research the stock tips you find on /biz/ for yourself

Anonymous Thu Jul 31 13:11:34 2014 No.429412

GMO just fumbling around again, but I guess that's alright especially considering how down a day it is for the rest of the market.

I still have my stop at 0.99 and I do have some faith. Hopefully things will turn around with some delayed action due to the news.

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Thu Jul 31 15:53:20 2014 No.429558 Bought some TSLA at 221. Hope this goes well.

Anonymous Thu Jul 31 17:35:22 2014 No.429674

I'm involved in Global General Technologies. They're a non-reporting pink sheet valued at 2.5 million: http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/GLGT/profile

Sounds like a scam? Sure, to those that aren't savvy to pink-sheet investing. See, at least two aviation companies called Integrity Aviation and Turbine Aviation are merging into that shell. There will soon be a name change, and then Global General will be known as Turbine Aviation. There was already a formal name change on the Nevada Secretary of State website (https://nvsos.gov/sosentitysearch/CorpDetails.aspx?lx8nvq=RpUjOC1CZJi3p4ILS9oqNQ%253d%253d)) along with a bunch of other goodies like a few form D's and the like. The new website will be: http://turbineaviation.aero.. The shell GLGT is debt free, and the form D stated 5-25 million revenue. I doubt you'll be able to get very many shares, since most involved have the float locked, but if you do good job.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 31 17:40:25 2014 No.429687 >>429674 Oops meant Integrity Aviation and Turbine Engine Center.

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Thu Jul 31 22:40:19 2014 No.430057 >>429674 >We desperately need starting capital as our company wasn't sustainable enough to warrant a position on major markets so we want you to give us capital and hopefully we will become profitable some day Cool I wish you the best of luck

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 12:26:35 2014 No.430665 I'm interested in getting into stocks but is there anything you wish people told you before you started that I should know?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 12:36:56 2014 No.430671 LGTSS >facebook >zuckershit >PHP

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 13:44:40 2014 No.430709 >>430665 Yeah, I wish someone told me to go all in, I could have retired already.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 13:46:59 2014 No.430710 >>430671 what the fuck happened with facebook?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 13:49:57 2014 No.430716 >>430710 zuckerberg is in critical condition after car accident

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 14:05:58 2014 No.430728 >>430057 Please don't comment on things you don't understand.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 14:26:14 2014 No.430740 Can anyone explain the crazy activity that's been going on with El Pollo Loco the past couple days

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 15:28:36 2014 No.430768 anybody trading with eToro here?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 15:33:55 2014 No.430775 Is it virtually impossible for someone who has no experience in trading/businesses to get remotely good at trading?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 15:55:54 2014 No.430787 >>430775 of course it's not impossible, and besides doing it will provide experience. learn how it works then create a practice account.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 17:56:10 2014 No.430922 >>430710 Buy facebook and twitter. I know they are shit, but that's how the world works. You're a weaboo if you don't use it in the future (in probably about 5-10 years; or if not now).

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 21:23:35 2014 No.431107 Okay, so I invest 1200 dollars in a company, and then sell the stocks after a few days for a dollar more than what I bought it for, I now have 2400 dollars. This is way too good to be true.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 1 22:44:15 2014 No.431153 >>431107 * assuming the stock doesn't go down (which takes an indefinite time to come back up) * subtract taxes * subtract 2x trading fees

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Fri Aug 1 23:58:59 2014 No.431249 >>431107 Didn't math it out right

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 2 02:56:09 2014 No.431416 >>431249 Well, if the stock was $1... but at that point the company's probably on shaky grounds and will quite possibly never hit the $2 needed to double his money.

>>	SigridTheWhaleSlayer !o7IoaYt5UM Sat Aug 2 03:10:54 2014 No.431432 >>418771 >ctrl+f TKMR >ctrl+f CNAT Biz youre fucking up. How are none of you profititing on ebola or liver disease hype?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 2 19:11:28 2014 No.431976 Wipe do you use a islamic account??

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 2 20:49:59 2014 No.432067 >>431432 Playing the news is very hard I think. Tell us your secrets please.

Wipe !!ZG/uL5DGQan Sun Aug 3 14:12:56 2014 No.432716

>>432067
>Browse /pol/
>Wait for happening threads

The ebola nonsense started back in March and then went silent for a few months before coming back as the biggest outbreak ever.

So far this year Russia and now the ebola have been good market plays. Also weed stocks in January. Seriously, just lurk pol and wait for something to get a lot of attention (weed degeneracy threads, shall happening, Ukraine happening, etc) and profit while they circle jerk

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 3 20:25:17 2014 No.433179 >>432716 Answer that one Wipe >>431976

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 3 21:16:52 2014 No.433241 >>418819 people don't know what they want they want the smallest gadget and you have the 90's and the new 10's full of "small,micro,mini" gadgets suddenly everyone wants bigger gadgets now

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 4 14:09:55 2014 No.433952 Whats hapen with gmo

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 4 14:10:42 2014 No.433955 Is the time here to buy AMD stock? I've been watching it since the recent drop and it seems to be making steady progress. That + AMD has made profits for the past two quarters.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 4 14:13:04 2014 No.433958 >>433955 I bought in about a week after I saw the drop happen. It has been doing amazing since. I am still afraid of a second drop, but I have my stops set in.

Anonymous Mon Aug 4 15:27:14 2014 No.434021

>>433958
if you look at the stock history from the past, it hasn't dipped below where it fell.

in other words, it may dip but it's always higher than what you paid for it before at the previous dip.

Seperate Question:
What medium do you guys use to purchase/sell stocks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 4 16:03:11 2014 No.434043 >>434021 I use TDAmeritrade because I like the thinkorswim platform. Also that last minute jump upward. Every fucking time GMO. Every fucking time. It wasn't even in the last 5 minutes, it was like 5 seconds after close.

Anonymous Mon Aug 4 16:06:29 2014 No.434049

>>433958
http://www.theverge.com/2013/6/21/4452488/amd-sparks-x86-transition-for-next-gen-game-consoles

>AMD manages to put their tech into every single console for the next generation

>Christmas time is going
>stock history shows spikes for AMD around this time

>AMD Christmas spikes + next gen consoles being bought due to sales = higher demand for stocks

r u rdy?

in truth, if it does dip again, just buy more stocks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 4 16:11:18 2014 No.434055 File: 37 KB, 814x301, bainis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Shit almost forgot pic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 4 16:58:15 2014 No.434114 >>433955 Pump and dump. 3 months run-up, then a 15-30% drop. That was almost every ER in the last 1 and a half years. Someone (come on wipe) create a new thread please.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 4 19:05:08 2014 No.434269 >>429558 You should just stop trading bro, you obviously have no idea what you're doing. Also >Tripfagging

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 4 19:23:43 2014 No.434295 >>434049 Consoles mean absolute shit for the CPU market, it's about computers.

>>	CaeX !!1YCo25d3NT+ Mon Aug 4 19:40:39 2014 No.434318 >>434269 >Have no idea what I'm doing >Stock almost gained $20 since I bought it O-Ok...

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 5 10:32:54 2014 No.434940 >>434295 yeah, the CPUs are what AMD won in the console war all the new consoles have AMD CPUs traditionally AMD was a computer only company but they expanded their market and did it successfully. I think a long term investment would be profitable.

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