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CHAINREKT!!!

MONEY SKELLY JUST DENOUNCED CHAINLINK AS A SCAM!

DUMPING COMMENCES.

>> No.3580985

>>3580964
Stop spreading FUD you stupid fuck.

That's literally always how Vitalik talks.

>> No.3580991

>>3580964
Linkfags BTFO!

>> No.3580992
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Deluded. LINKies

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

LINKFAGS ETERNALLY BTFO
BASED MONEY SKELLY
NO PRISONERS

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>>3580964

>> No.3581003

>>3580964
SHIT, WHY THE FUCK DID HE HAVE TO SAY THIS NOW ?

FUCK. I WAS GOING TO SELL THIS FOR 5X. FML

>> No.3581013

>>3580964
LMAO.

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SELL NOOOWWWWWWWWW

>> No.3581031

Gotta love how all those ERC20 shit tokens are getting trashed by Vitalik himself

>> No.3581034

>>3580964
rip

>> No.3581035
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oh LINKies

>> No.3581037

Check his shorts, he announces he’s selling OMG and now this?

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>>3580985
COPE
O
P
E

>> No.3581044

>>3581031
Tough love.

>> No.3581048

>>3581037
Vitalik is exiting crypto. Gonna buy stocks and real estate.

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>> No.3581056

>>3580964
OMG, Kyber, LINK.
All BTFO.
Based money skelly.

>> No.3581060

It's been fun, lads. Back to making 7% a year.

>> No.3581061

He also thinks Ethereum is worth like $14. Crypto is worth whatever someone will pay.

>> No.3581065

This guy is amazing, if you aren't all in on ETH unironically you should kill yourself.

>> No.3581068

>>3580964
BRB GONNA PANIC SELL

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LINKFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH, THE KING HAS SPOKEN!

>muh oracle

>> No.3581081

>>3581035
Lol this guy is a joke. He has made millions off of scam ICOs that inflated the price of ETH and now he actually has the gall to talk about what something can be worth? Just lol at this guy.

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>>3581081
Wrong

>> No.3581108

>>3581081
Dude doesn't give a shit about money all he cares about is improving the tech

>> No.3581110

>>3581108
This. He's got the autism, bad. Watch ANY of his speeches.

>> No.3581112

>>3581096
No you are wrong. His Ethereum blockchain's current use is LITERALLY scam ICOs. There is no way Ethereum can be worth 24 billion without the rampant amount of scam ICOs on the network.

>> No.3581122

>>3581108
>>3581110
He doesn't give a shit about money yet he has yet to call out his scam blockchain network being worth 24 billion. LOL.

>> No.3581124
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senpai noticed me

>> No.3581125

why skelly whyyyyyyyyyyyyy

>> No.3581126

To be fair, he also said Eth should be worth $17.

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>>3580964
Money skeleton no, how could you.

>> No.3581136

Skelly has been signaling a collapse for months now.

It'll be your own fault and noone elses when everything collapses and you lose money.

>> No.3581137

holy kek this gay cunt fud's every coin i buy at any opportunity

he is the angel of death

>> No.3581138

DUMP IT DUMP IT ALL

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>>3581126

WE"RE BACK IN BUSINESS THEN BOYS

HES WRONG AGAIN

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>>3581096

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>>3580964
>scammer calls thing a scam

>> No.3581163

>>3581152
This is a nice TLDR.

>> No.3581165

>>3580964
Friendly reminder this is the guy that you hang on the words of....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-PdaNjhTaM

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>>3581124

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>>3581165
god this market is so retarded

>> No.3581182

>>3581124
Holy shit!
Same sex marriage CONFIRMED!

GAY haters eternally BTFO!

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>>3581165
love this vid

>> No.3581193

>>3581061
>He also thinks Ethereum is worth like $14.
source?

>> No.3581207

>>3581112

But let me guess all the hundreds of scam altcoins forked from Bitcoin, bought with Bitcoin and sold to make more Bitcoin played no part in its value, right?

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>>3581165
>i am heavily invested in a product developed by this man

>> No.3581222

>>3581031
>>3581037
Vitalik isn't selling all his OMG. He's selling his advisor shares.

>> No.3581224

>>3581207
that's not the same thing at all, dingus

>> No.3581237

>>3581108
He's trying to be humble like Satoshi

>> No.3581247

>>3581061
this. If ETH is worth 30 fucking billion then oracles are worth hundreds of million. Vitalik can fuck off.

>> No.3581252

>>3580964
>he thinks Chainlink is about oracles

Lol, he has no idea what he's talking about.

>> No.3581258

>>3581207
Just go away, you're low IQ. That's like saying the $ is a scam. You have misunderstood my point.

>> No.3581261

>>3581247
Those bags feeling heavy?

>> No.3581275

>>3581136
You get it, Anon. He's getting ready to scream 'I told you so, I kept on telling you and you wouldn't listen!'.

Come on, how do you think he feels about being nicknamed 'money skeleton' by a bunch of speculators who've never heard of risk management?

>> No.3581284

>>3581247
Do you need a massage ? I think the bags are getting very heavy, arent they ?

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3581289

>Vitalik will endorse a company that larps about partnerships

>Vitalik goes out of his way to shit on a project that actually does have an official relationship with fucking SWIFT

What a stuttering pothead.

>> No.3581291

Hey fucks do you think maybe since he is the creator of eth he has to remain neatural in everything?

Think about it. He can't say buy this or that. What if people did and they lose money? Then they will string his ass hope on false promises of moon missions.

To him it's probably immoral to endorse anything.

>> No.3581293

>>3581165
lmao how have i never seen this holy shit

>> No.3581313

>>3581165
hes so FUCKING AUTISTIC holy shit. He's like the opposite of steve jobs man

>> No.3581323

>>3581291
He wrote a massive blog post a couple months ago outlining exactly this

>> No.3581337

>>3581291
True but in any case his tweets will affect the price, at least for now.

>> No.3581354

>>3581165
>>3581313
aw its not that bad, i bet hes a nice guy

i wanna bring him with me to the gym though

>> No.3581369

>>3581208
He knew about the exploit, that's why he said to sell your neo

>> No.3581443

>This is the guy who says eth should be worth $15.
Wow its fucking nothing. It's good news infact, he isn't sure if chainlink is worth $32m but is convinced eth is worth half. Hmm..

>> No.3581463

>>3581354
I'm sure he is, it's just that you can't take the words of someone with this level of autism in the same way you would for other people. I'm pretty sure he meant it in a way like >>3581291
has suggested.

Anyway, does anybody know if that blog post about how he put all his time and focus into crypto because Blizz nerfed his lock is true?? I'm guessing it isn't but holy fuck that would be funny if it was true.

>> No.3581468

can somebody please post where vitalik said ether should be $15?

>> No.3581487

>>3581463
>nerfed his lock
What did he mean but this /biz/?

>> No.3581489

Great news. He literally despises 99% of ICOs, but thinks Chainlink's project is awesome. Ask him his opinion on the valuation of every coin in the top 50 and he will say most are next to worthless.

Just topped up.

>> No.3581498

He's right tho a business around oracles is in no way worth $32m

>> No.3581515

>>3581498
>a business that provides a decentralized link between blockchain's trustlessness and conventional business/finance is in no way worth $32m

Lol.

>> No.3581521

I'm choking on my wine at how hard I'm laughing at the people who ignored me about the LINK sham.

This is a truly glorious day. Fuck it feels good to be right and rich and justified in my gloating.

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>> No.3581671

>>3581489

He destroyed this project, the man does not know his own strength lmao.

>> No.3581686

And Vitalik says Ethereum should only be worth $12, Vitalik isn't the best person to look to for price points.

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>>3580964

>> No.3581713

>>3581671
>like a retard with his retard strength

>> No.3581717

>>3581686
Dude went from NEET autist to multimillionnaire, he has very little concept of money.
All he cares about is decentralization.

>> No.3581730

>>3581145
no, he said this at 400$

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>>3581717
this

vitalik doesnt know jackshit about economics, atleast not more than the average /biz/ pink wojak poster

all hes good at is coding and telling people to sell NEO

>> No.3581755

>>3581717
>NEET autist to millionaire
Shouldn't he be a billionaire actually? I think he has 10% or so of ethereum.

>> No.3581765

>>3581744
Satoshi BTFO!

>> No.3581777

>>3580964
he basically endorsed CL with this tweet. he just is not allowed to

>> No.3581791

HAHAHAHA GET SHITTED ON YOU FUCKING KEKS

>> No.3581803

>>3581777
>>>3580964 (OP)
>he basically endorsed CL with this tweet. he just is not allowed to
Honestly considering buying in now, he endorsed the tech and basically said he cant comment on the price.
Will probably never be this low again.

>> No.3581830

>>3581777
he said oracles, in general, are awesome. the subtext is that everyone knows oracles are a dime a dozen, and not nearly worth $32 million.

>> No.3581868

>>3581124
Is it pronounced HEIL?

>> No.3581887

>>3581755
Last I heard he had between 100 and 200 million a few months ago. But that might have been from ETH alone. Might also not be accurate at all.

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>>3581830
well you are clearly clueless. if you cant see how decentralised oracles will change crypto for good then dont buy it and stay poor fag. this is your chance to buy ico priced ethereum

>> No.3581915

>>3581893
>decentralised oracles will change crypto for good

there are already many decentralized oracles you can you use tho, hasn't changed much yet

>> No.3581930

>>3581893
why should i buy this shitcoin
what does it do for me if i can not afford to operate a node nor would i have any unique or important information to contribute

>> No.3581945

>>3581930
>Why should I buy this?
It'll pump off of SIBOS conference FOMO next month, might be able to buy it cheaper by waiting though.

>> No.3581956

>>3581915
Name 1

>> No.3581960

>>3581945
but why should I buy it other than the promise of selling it to someone else for higher

>> No.3582036

>>3581956
oracul
reality keys
oraclize
augur oracles can be used by external contracts

probably hundreds more since setting up oracles is piss easy

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y did i buy this shit :(

>> No.3582048

I'll give 0.0.5 btc to the first person who links me 4chan crypto groups on discord and telegram .

>> No.3582121

>>3581081
>>3581112
dude we get it, you're mad because he talked shit an ico you know is a scam and you know you won't be making x5 gains on anymore. that's the only reason you're calling ETH a scan now, because you chainkek ETHEREUM token will not give you quick positive returns

>> No.3582154

>>3582048
https://discord.gg/YvdMQF
https://discord.gg/mahuqp
https://discord.gg/bQ36qM

37SW8eLQV6J1Gxi9SJhv2aXooWyA1dmMf6

>> No.3582166

>>3580964
CHAINED REACTION!

>> No.3582185

>>3582154
>0.0.5
>0.5(half) of 0 bitcoin
You got played sucker

>> No.3582226

>>3582185
oh no what will i do now with muh discord groups

>> No.3582238

I bought these bags for 2x on ED but I just dumped them for a small loss. Based Money Skelly.

>> No.3582275

>>3582036
None of them have a proven used product.
None of them are used internally by SWIFT already

>> No.3582278

>>3580964
I don't understand this. I know that people FUD to buy cheap tokens but I don't understand why people do it on /biz/. Sure, people here are stupid, but people here are also mostly either nocoiner or hold very little. You're not gonna be making an actual difference by posting anything on here, so all you're really doing is shitting up the board with bullshit and spam. If you need proof that /biz/ can't do shit, look no further than iota. There have been a tonne of other cases where people have tried to FUD on here and every single time has been a waste. And if you're going to argue that you're not FUDing and you just hate the coin then that's even more pathetic. At least you had a reason and something to gain from wasting your time, but if you're just fudding because you hate a coin then you're wasting precious time that you could've used on a million other things.
So can anyone give me any reason why anyone would want to FUD on /biz/ rather than bitcointalk or Reddit?
Btw this isn't just about this coin it's about every coin thats been fudded this hard

>> No.3582282

It's the same faggot that thinks his own project should be worth billions less than it is. This is just what he does.

>> No.3582294

>>3581487
WoW lingo.
Nerfed = Made worse/patched an exploit
Lock = Warlock

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>>3581686
Fucking THIS lmao.

Time to buy some cheap LINK. ;)

>> No.3582319

>>3582282
You all keep saying this but I doubt you even know why he said that.

>> No.3582321

>>3582278
Mainly it's because you link tards were gloating in every other thread about your genius trading skills whilst calling anybody that didn't buy a bunch of fucking retard nocoiners.

>> No.3582327

>>3581521
I am also choking on my $15000 champagne (that I bought with money from investing in stocks and bonds) at people who fell for this delusional scam.

>> No.3582355

>>3582321
>things that didn't happen
epic

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>>3582319
autism.

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This is where the LINK team will be presenting to the biggest players in the financial world
LINK will BOOM
DO NOT fall for the FUD
BUY in NOW

>> No.3582452

>>3581061
He clearly knows nothing of economics or he wouldn't be saying shit like this.

I know he and Vlad Zamfir have both said the platform is highly overvalued, but neither of them grasp the true size of the global equity market, inclusive of derivatives.

When you consider that the overall derivatives market is speculated to be over 10 times the size of the world's GDP, the thought that a fringe investment platform aimed at low barrier-to-entry ideas in the finance sector could be worth a couple billion dollars is not hard to believe.

These guys only think of the world of finance in terms of M0/1/2/3, which means they think all "money" in the world is limited to, say, 70 trillion dollars, give or take. In that context, 7 billion (or 0.01%) of the total global market of assets is a bit outlandish, but not totally unbelievable given the mainstream acknowledgement of the technology and its future.

But when you consider the *true* size of the investment market that fractional-reserve banking has created, Ethereum is a literal drop in the bucket, something on the order of 0.00001% of that overall market, which is a literal drop in a 5-gallon bucket, when considering an analogy that humans can actually conceptualize.

Vitalik is arguing the size of Eth based on traditional valuations of equity markets *only*, when the tokens that are created on his platform are just as much debt-driven as they are asset-driven (dev teams drive valuation of funds collected, while at the same time pre-mining and "setting aside" certain amounts of tokens for themselves with no financial contribution whatsoever; this is, simply put, the creation of debt).

At any rate, Vitalik is a good dev, with a solid understanding of the tech. He is by no means a market maker, neither is he knowledgeable in the economics of his project. His opinions on this matter are less valuable than Jamie Dimon's or Warrent Buffet's (though both of their opinions are skewed due to their clear ludditism).

>> No.3582454

>>3581289

>stuttering pothead

Alright, that does it, I'm gonna have to filter you, it honestly seems like you have a paid shill job to shitpost here because you're here round the clock it's sad

>> No.3582462

>>3582355
>epic
fuck off

>> No.3582463

>>3582278
except that biz single-handedly screwed the chainlink presale, crowdsale, and invaded the chainlink slack. It has a lot more influence than one would think.

On some smaller discussion forum I follow, they weren't even covering the chainlink ICO or discussing it.

>> No.3582471

>>3582278
wrong. we started the whole "vitalik is dead" rumor, which crashed the price of ethereum. we are singlehandedly responsible for the rise (and fall) of digibyte, signatum, and rdd. 4chan is bigger than you think.

>> No.3582473

>>3580964
Vitalik is a gifted guy, but does he live in some autistic dreamworld where things don't cost anything? He made another one of those stupid statements a while back, "ethereum should be $15" or something. Does he not understand what supply and demand means?

>> No.3582486

>>3581207
Stop posting. Your argument is a facile straw-man, and you either know this (troll), or you're too stupid to see it (moron). Either way, you need to stop posting.

>> No.3582518

>>3581222
Which he should.

If he truly believed what he has said about the platform's current valuation, he would have sold the majority of his position in ETH, as well.

All this shit about him being "just about the tech" is bullshit; he and his team stay in 5-star hotels on the road, he calls million-dollar condos "home", he jetsets and sight-sees all the time.

>> No.3582535

>>3582463
>biz single-handedly screwed the chainlink presale
people from discords/reddit/fucking everywhere were pooling money together for the presale before /biz/ was. you're really not that smart for realising that you can pool money together. plus, the money pooling didn't do anything. estimate was way off target because of the crash.
>crowdsale
crowdsale was fucked because of the huge change in price of bitcoin (and etheruem). literally nothing to do with /biz/. devs did the most ethical thing they could, too.
>and invaded the chainlink slack
LE RAID XD. a few people came in, said nigger, and got banned. nice invasion.
>>3582471
that rumour didn't cause eth to crash, but nice work taking credit for it. I bet you're someone who thinks 4chan got trump elected too. people here seem to love to take credit for shit they didn't do. rdd was hyped and killed by Reddit, dgb was hyped everywhere for a bit, and I've never heard of signatum. sorry to break it to you, but you're not changing the world by posting pink wojacks and the words "SELL SELL SELL", idiot.

>> No.3582536

Wow. I am heavily invested into this. But this is some really bad news. Will at least drop half my stack when it's Double the pre Sale price.

>> No.3582626

>>3582535
That is possible that the pools were partially filled up through other means. But I don't think it's unreasonable to attribute much of the presale disaster to biz. I remember when the presale links were first starting to get posted, and most of them were very low or almost 0 eth (meaning they most likely were posted first here).
Also just browsing reddit and other crypto discussion, there was comparatively less hype over chainlink. Like I said before, there is one small sub-forum I follow that literally shills every shitcoin out there, and they didn't even discuss the chainlink ICO controversy.
And it very much was a raid, you must not have been on the slack later in the day after the crowdsale sold out and people were cussing and wishing bad things on Sergey. It was completely unmoderated for a while.

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>>3580964
CHAINLINK CHAINLINK CHAINLINK
CHAINLINK
CHAINLINK
CHAINLINK

THIS BOARD IS ABOUT CHAINLINK NOW

EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT TALK ABOUT CHAINLINK SHOULD GO SOMEWHERE ELSE

WE ARE /CHAINLINK/ aka /biz/

>> No.3582682

>>3582358
Nope. A part of Ethereum is unusable because of ethers price.

>> No.3582686

>>3582637
Axtually, this is camouflaged ethereum thread.

>> No.3582698

>>3582686
inb4 AIDS skelly fuds ETH too

>> No.3582750

>>3582355
kys.

>> No.3582979

How can an oracle that provides data from the real world be decentralized?
Non-trivial data like company info, stock market data, news, outcomes of events to bet on like sport matches... how would you provide those without a trusted data source or obtaining them yourself?
What are these people all even getting at? And no, I'm not reading white paper #257.

>> No.3583062

>>3581124
>Florian
Nice parents lmao

>> No.3583082

>>3582979
>How is this done
>I refuse to read the documentation explaining it
How about no.

>> No.3583109

>>3582979
>spoonfeed me answers that are clearly explained in the whitepaper that i refuse to read

fuck off

>> No.3583120

>>3583062
i like it

the full name goes rather smooth in german

>> No.3583229

An oracle solution is worth billions, actually.

>> No.3583265

>>3581130
that dude just hast to have a bunch of children locked up in his siberian rapedungeon

>> No.3583284

>>3583229
>only billions for a problem that's been plaguing humanity since the dawn of time
Think more in the trillions, friendo.

>> No.3583308

>>3581108
Lol. He sold tons early on that's why he says this and wanted eth back at 15 dollar

>> No.3583315

WHEN DOES THIS SHIT GO UP ON LIQUI REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.3583318

>>3581165
and we know what happened to neo

>> No.3583321

i just bought at .000549. dats crazy shit, dude.

>> No.3583431

if the price stagnates i'll throw in my bittrex account for this.
if it gets even lower till sunday i sell all my OMG and i'll go all in. I'm already balls deep in the presale, but damn...

>> No.3583449

>>3581165
and what happened to NEO? oh right dumped harder than ever

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>>3583265
>in his siberian rapedungeon
>siberian

why there anon?

>> No.3583468

>>3583449
neo dumped due to china FUD however, not because vitalik said so..

>> No.3583474

>>3583431

I'm buying in on Sunday as well. I wonder if people will sell Link to get into Kyber.

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>>3582452
This, thanks for typing this

>> No.3583578

im pretty sure omise & kyber wasnt planning on giving their ico money away when they held the ICO

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3583616

>>3581165

>> No.3583668

>>3581463

Vitalik's about me linked from his twitter

>I happily played World of Warcraft during 2007-2010, but one day Blizzard removed the damage component from my beloved warlock's Siphon Life spell. I cried myself to sleep, and on that day I realized what horrors centralized services can bring. I soon decided to quit.

Would appreciate a small ETH tip if i helped you:
0x123ac28e92484a1a62b058659122b2905a8d7355

>> No.3583686

>>3583449
Yeah cute story but that's not why neo dumped.

>> No.3583691

>>3583578
Also, why is Fenbushi Capital on ico's like Tierion?

>> No.3583727

>>3581463
It's true he confirmed in a techcrunch interview.

>> No.3583728

>>3583668
here's a tip you little piece of stool: flush yourself down the toilet.

>> No.3583754

>>3583321
I bought at .00062 am i a losser

>> No.3583777

>>3583754
youre a losser for thinking youre losser for buying link at any price

>> No.3583781

>>3583754
Yup

>> No.3583814
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>> No.3583816

>>3583754
nah, it'll be a $10 coin pretty soon.

>> No.3583866

>>3583777
KEKY 7'S THE GODS FAVOR US BOYS GET IN WHILE YOU CAN

>> No.3583879

Sell or buy?
I cannot handle this hard FUD or hard shilling.
And now vitalik starts fudding too.

>> No.3583883

Whenever i feeld bad i go to Etherdelta, hover over "click here to SELL" and type in the ammount of LINK i have.
The "ETH" field shows me how i feel.
I feel pretty good right now.

>> No.3583894
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>>3583691
Tierion is legit promising but this board got a hold of it and when they didn't immediately get x1,000,000% gains within like a day and a half they all dumped at a loss like the idiots they are

>> No.3583928

>>3583894
>it's a l-long hold! ;_;
Ok, TierionMarine.

>> No.3583940

>>3581744
i wonder what it's like to fuck a tard

>> No.3583958

thanks, bought 100k

>> No.3584015

deluded linkies btfo

>> No.3584143

>>3583928
Yeah, yeah

>> No.3584167

>>3583940
Ask your mom.

>> No.3584421

Can someone explain to me in simple terms how the oracle problem relates to
1. the modern world
2. crypto
?

>> No.3584524

>>3581730
And it's closer to 400 right now than 17? You have no argument