/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.349920]

ITT: Unethical and shitty companies

[Anonymous No.349947]

Pretty much every pharmaceutical company in the world

[Anonymous No.349948]

>>349947
>big pharma is the boogeyman
only because you want them to be, really what's the difference if the government takes over?

[Anonymous No.349949]

>ethics on /biz/

op=forever poor

[Anonymous No.349951]

Anything in MPAA/RIAA.

[Anonymous No.349952]

>>349920
>this is unethical
alex jones plz go

[Anonymous No.349957]

>>349949
>investing in sin stocks
>profiting on the disgusting habits of human beings
>condoning untermensch behaviour
>believing you're a productive product of the human race from these actions

I wont invest in sin stocks because my family health/wealth was partly ruined by cigarettes/alcohol/gambling.

[Anonymous No.349960]

ACLU

[Anonymous No.349962]

>expecting the capitalist pigs of /biz/ to have any sense of ethics, morals, honor, loyalty, dignity, etc

[Anonymous No.349964]

>>349957
>>349962
If you can't beat 'em join 'em

[Anonymous No.349969]

>>349962
>implying those things exist outside your imagination

[Anonymous No.349972]

>>349962
Be olite, be proffessional. No oblifations beyond that.

[Anonymous No.349974]

>>349972
And don't spell things over your phone

[Anonymous No.349978]

>>349962
We are on 4chan. I assume that if you're here you've already abandoned all of that. Not even about being a /biz/ guy.

[Anonymous No.349979]

>>349957
I just invest in EUR/USD so the evil is slightly more ambiguous... and they give a nice discount on commission and spread costs.

[Anonymous No.349980]

Technically companies don't have ethics at all. They're unthinking legal entities.

[Anonymous No.350001]

>producing GMOs in order to make crops more nutritious, longer lasting, more resistant to disease/pests/climate change
>unethical and shitty
>implying you aren't a tool of corporations yourself since you probably quite a few corporate products on you

That said, if we really want to talk about shady companies, lets talking about the few worth talking about. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.350003]

Any penny stock

[Anonymous No.350005]

>>349920
>Monsanto
>Unethical
That's kind of like saying rape is unethical. Monsanto is the most evil organization in the US. Like, actively evil, and willfully committing crimes against humanity.

[Anonymous No.350007]

>>350001
Retarded autist confirmed.

Your ignorance is not appreciated here, go educate yourself on the shit Monsanto does to companies and how it has corrupt politicians serving it in the White House, you mindless cretin.

[Anonymous No.350011]

>>350005

Rape isn't unethical. Most women bring it onto themselves.

[Anonymous No.350015]

>invest in Boeing
>LHM
>PFZ
>tfw Monsanto and ISP's are too evil for me

Giant killer robots are one thing but a monopoly on the food supply and information is bad for us all.

[Anonymous No.350017]

>>349980
their shareholders have ethics and the purpose of a business is to do what shareholders want so I don't see the problem

unethical behavior is bizarre for a company and suggests there is something wrong with its administration, I for one keep away from multi-marketing schemes and corporations showing frequent incompetence of this kind, furthermore if they are willing to screw over distributors/customers/employees they will likely want to do the same to shareholders, I prefer legit companies that are actually conducting some economically productive activity in the economy

this is why I believe in corporate america, it is a kind of democracy, the best kind, one where voters have a stake in it, which I believe is what the founding fathers originally intended

[Anonymous No.350019]

>>350017
>conducting some economically productive activity in the economy
lel, "conducting some economically productive activity"* fix'd

but as I said, america, free markets, etcetera

[Anonymous No.350037]

Pfizer has been doing this over and over again for the past 20 years.

1. Clueless CEO with no background in science let alone biochemistry or medicine gut research department.

2. Completely run out of new candidate drugs in the pipeline because they don't have enough researchers working on creating new drugs.

3. Buy a competitor with new drugs in the oven at massive premium (terrible value for Pfizer shareholders).

4. Gut the newly acquired company's research department because Pfizer now has a massive debt load that they need to shrink and/or goodwill depreciation weighing down on profit.

5. Repeat.

Many good, research-driven pharmaceutical companies have been ruined by getting acquired by Pfizer: Warner-Lambert, Pharmacia, and now possibly AstraZeneca.

[Anonymous No.350075]

>>350001

Confirmed for first actually unethical corporation in thread.

Here's another one. I never understand why libertardians get so upset about the NSA but are totaly silent on private corporations spying in vastly more intrusive fashions. At least the IC has to get a warrant from a kangaroo count before reading my emails, Google just goes ahead and does it.

[Anonymous No.350076]

>>350007
Oh, I forgot to say:

>Disclosure: I own MON

Stay buttmad.

[Anonymous No.350077]

No love for Bayer/Cutter?

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/22/business/2-paths-of-bayer-drug-in-80-s-riskier-one-steered-overseas.html?pagewanted=print

Gist of it is:
>it's the 80's
>get blood plasma from prisoners/the homeless to create new drug
>groups known to have high rates of HIV/AIDs
>no real screening tests available
>go on to sell drug
>find out drug is giving people HIV
>stop selling in US
>develop new, safer version
>make an active decision to sell the old one overseas, and encourage them to use the old stocks there, in order to recoup losses, knowing 100% that it gives people HIV

[Anonymous No.350080]

>>350017
This is bullshit. The shareholders don't necessarily know that Coke is poisoning local water supplies in poor Indian villages to produce their product.

[Anonymous No.350082]

And I don't get why Trafigura hasn't been posted yet, especially given the revelations from 3 months ago:
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/02/12/the_750_million_dollar_man_trafigura_angola_general_dino

I think /biz/ doesn't understand that the really shady companies are the ones that don't publicize.

[Anonymous No.350083]

>>350077
All of these need such a Gist. So many people posting corps and expecting us to read their minds to find out why they think they're unethical. Not all of em are high-profile shitstains like Monsanto that make international news by screwing small-time farmers out of millions.

[Anonymous No.350085]

>>350082
>linking to a site that requires an account or account integration to even view a single article on
Voting you to be the most unethical poster in this thread.

[Anonymous No.350088]

>>350077

Don't forget:

>Totally in tight with the Nazis
>Part of the conglomerate that manufactured Zyklon B Gas and use slave labor
>One of their chairmen had been convicted of war crimes for human experimentation at Auschwitz- BEFORE he was appointed to the board.
>Didn't apologize for shit until the 90's.

[Anonymous No.350220]

>>349952
I'm all for GMOs. It's Monsanto's legal actions and their near-monopoly I have problems with. I don't want them to be the only ones genetically modifying crops. I want every farmer to have his own species of corn. I want engineering students making monster-tomatoes in their basements in an effort to take over the world.

[Anonymous No.350257]

>>350088

> Zyklon B (also spelled Cyclon B or Cyclone B) was the trade name of a cyanide-based pesticide invented in the early 1920s.

[Anonymous No.350278]

it'd be easier to list the respectable companies

[Anonymous No.350280]

>>350257
But you could (and many people do) also just widen that logic of "every time X happens, there are Y people in charge" to some other trait. E.g. "Every time there is a war, men are in charge", "90% of paedophile porn rings are run by men", "The finance industry is dominated by white guys (sure they might be jewish, but they're still white)", "The CEOs of the evil large multinationals are all white males", and so on and so forth. I'm sure most people here don't take those sort of accusations seriously, so why should it be any different applying that line of thinking to jewish people?

[Anonymous No.350297]

>>350085
>not just hitting the escape key while it's loading before the account verification window pops up
What, is this your first day on the Internet?
Also,
>implying good information is free or that easy to find

And to continue this whole list of shady companies, how about the various companies that move around weapons on behalf of Russia? Helping contribute to the war in Syria there.
>http://newamerica.net/events/2013/the_odessa_network

[Anonymous No.350319]

>>350280
dont bother trying to use logic against an illogical person

its just a waste of time and energy

[Anonymous No.350332]

>>350257

>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.350335]

>>350280
Men don't wage war against non-men for the sole reason that they are not men.

Pedo's don't target all non pedos for not being pedo

However Jews organize and target their host society simply because they consider all non-jews to be cattle and of a lesser species "goyim"

[Anonymous No.350336]

>>349920
fuck off faggot. monsanto is one of the few entities in the world who are actually doing something to stop world hunger but you're too fucking stupid to see past the picture the media paints for you.

[Anonymous No.351191]

>>350336
they are exploitative pantents trolls and they use biotech to solve different issues than pic related

I hate their management, but their mission is crucial if humanity wants to go to space, I'm torn

[Anonymous No.351292]

>>350077
>http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/22/business/2-paths-of-bayer-drug-in-80-s-riskier-one-steered-overseas.html?pagewanted=print

I just got a job here, pretty good benefits

[Anonymous No.351317]

Montsatno
EA
Pharmaceutical companies (I think medicine should be subsidized by the government, as a profit motive is not the way to handle an industry that can save people's lives)
Slave/underpaid labor type companies. This includes companies that underpay their workers so their CEO can buy gold toilet seats.

I'm not anti-corporation, and I think that most companies do pretty well ethically, but it's ridiculous to believe that the free market is good for all of humanity.

[Anonymous No.351333]

>>351317

This is not the result of free market.

Monsanto represents the exact opposite of the free market.

Monsanto has board members who are also politicians. They have created legislation that prevents competition in the market.

[Anonymous No.351393]

>>351317
>slave/underpaid labor types
There goes Silicon Valley

[Anonymous No.351762]

>>351333
I agree. I was mostly talking about pharm companies. Montsatno is using a corrupt government to force a monopoly.

[Anonymous No.352182]

>>349920
Google
Apple
Microsoft
Facebook

Every motherfucker in Silicon Valley. These shits need to be taken down a notch.

[Anonymous No.352186]

>>349980
Ethics are societal standards. You're thinking of morals, which are self-applied standards.

Companies still have morals IMO, but they're more primal than individuals, so they do tend to do horrible shit covertly as a matter of course.

[Anonymous No.352208]

>>352186
No; ethics is the branch of philosophy concerned with what one ought to do, and thus with systems of right and wrong based on logic and reason. For example, deontological ethics, utilitarianism, and virtue ethics.
Source: http://www.iep.utm.edu/ethics/

[Anonymous No.352256]

>>349920
Vector Marketing

[Anonymous No.352258]

>>352182
You should really back that up with something as to WHY that's the case; give some background. I would assume you mention them because of this anyway:
http://pando.com/2014/01/23/the-techtopus-how-silicon-valleys-most-celebrated-ceos-conspired-to-drive-down-100000-tech-engineers-wages/

[Anonymous No.352277]

>>350088
> Company helped trying to destroy what's the real evil in the world
> Jew bankers, jew media, jew hollywood, jew pornography and jew pedophilia
> Unethical
I'm starting to think I'll make them a donation.

[Anonymous No.352691]

>>352258
Yep, nice to see a fellow Pando reader. Those guys tend to hype their scoops up to a ridiculous extent, which backfires, but they're still good.

Also talking about their total compliance with the govt. and NSA, and lying through their teeth. And their patent wars, their crunch times, and their overseas manufacturing.

[Anonymous No.353753]

Vemma. These assholes are plaguing my hometown.

[Anonymous No.354186]

What, no love for Enron?

[Anonymous No.355606]