/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.348574]

Strange / Stupid Reasons Why You Didn't Get Hired:

>Be freakishly good at what I do
>Apply for job
>Get a phone call next day
>Meet up with recruiter
>Openly states that I'm talented
>Get a call 10 minutes after the meeting
>Aced first impressions
>Actual Interview
>Interviewer states I'm insanely good
>He's impressed
>"Alright so I got it."
>Next day
>Phone call
>I don't got it
>Recruiter sounds just as bewilder as I am
>We both assume it's an incompatibility with the work culture
>The Interviewer had nothing but good things to say about me
>Still didn't get hired
>Mentions "She"
>Hires someone substantially less skilled than I am
>This man must have hired this person thinking he could get laid
>Be fairly annoyed but shrug it off for the most part

So /biz/, what's your story?

[Anonymous No.348621]

>applied for a job
>got job
>profit

[Vroom Vroom No.348752]

>>348574

Might've been the bosses daughter or cousin or something

[Anonymous No.348763]

>>348752
Not sure, not going to look into it too much.

[Anonymous No.348770]

>>348574

This one time I forgot to be born in a country where there wasn't 23% youth unemployment. True story.

[Anonymous No.348780]

I had an interview for a marketing internship in which the manager said I was an, "ideal candidate" several times. An almost perfect interview. 2 weeks later he would not return my calls and eventually had a secretary answer my call to tell me the position was filled last week...wtf mane

[Anonymous No.348811]

>full-day interview for technical position
>ace all the technical parts
>last interview is with head of department, for some reason he doesn't like me and is pretty unpleasant
>get called in a few days and say they want someone more technical than me
Stupid bullshit. Just say the head guy didn't like me. Or that I wouldn't fit in. But not an obviously incorrect reason.

[Anonymous No.348821]

>>348574
>Be freakishly good at what I do

You know, I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that they're "just okay" at their job. Have you ever thought that maybe you aren't as good as you think?

[Anonymous No.348827]

>>348821
I've heard people say that. I've also heard people say they're bad at their job and I've known people dealing with "Impostor Syndrome".

[Anonymous No.348828]

>>348574
OP was applying to suck cock in gay porn

[Anonymous No.348841]

I had a really weird situation like that, kinda...

I sent a resume that pretty much perfectly matched what they wanted. I mean, it was almost too perfect. It was like they used my exact resume to create the job description. And it was some pretty unusual stuff, too. It just happened to be exactly what I did at my previous job.

Anyway, they gave me a phone interview. It went on for HOURS and they grilled me on the most ridiculous stuff. Seriously, the questions were like "Which bits in an IEEE floating-point number are used for the exponent?" And I fucking kid you not, I knew the answers EXACTLY, just because I happen to deal with exactly that kind of thing on a daily basis. I've written entire libraries for doing IEEE floating-point shit.

So I completely crush this interview, to the point where the guy on the phone is basically saying "Wow, why do you know this stuff so well?"

A week later, I get an e-mail that says they decided not to hire me. No explanation. My best guess is that they thought I was bullshitting them and just Googling the answers or something.

Fuck them. Funny thing is, the job posting is still up and they still haven't found anyone. It's been over two years.

[Anonymous No.348852]

>>348821
I went for a job that was heavy on typing and I can almost do 140wpm with 98% accuracy. That's the "freakish" bit.

[Anonymous No.348880]

>>348852
Oh okay, fair enough.

[Anonymous No.348883]

When I was a Manager at a fast food place during College, all I did was hire hot girls. I didn't give a fuck. We had this stoner cook and we'd always harass them. Best job I ever had.

[Anonymous No.348909]

>>348770
I applied for a trainee position recently. I have been working for about 5 years, but looking to change into something slightly different, but in reality quite similar (e.g different title, different industry, but day to day, you actually do the exact same thing). Figured I would be the only older guy there, and everyone else would be graduates.

Of the 200 applicants, only 6 made it to the interview, and each one of them was in my situation. A trainee position, and there was absolutely nobody just graduated or graduating. I really feel sorry for kids dese daiz. Boomers on the other hand can go fuck themselves. I've only met maybe 3 in my career who were actually competent enough to justify the salaries they got, for everyone else it was just a case of "well I have 10 years of experience of this", even if you're just stupid and lazy.

>>348883
Most of those kind of service industries are like that. My local bar quite openly tells guys they only hire attractive girls. Not so sure about the attractive part though as I've seen some of their employees, but I think they were girls at least.

[Anonymous No.348910]

>we are looking for more experienced employees
Well, I tried to be a productive member of society.

[Anonymous No.348917]

>go to a temp agency to get some dosh
>no work m8
>k
>do this for 2 weeks
>still no work m8
>think they don't wanna give me a job
>good thing I sent out my CV for vacancies 3 weeks prior
>get a call from the same temp agency for the job I applied via email
>go inside, they didn't expect me to be the guy
>they gave me the job

Waste of time.

[Anonymous No.348954]

When I was younger I applied at an upscale grocery store that my friend worked at.

I went in with my friend to meet the manager. He told me to put in an application. He doesn't contact me for a week. My friend inquires about the application --- Manager says "[I] did too well on the personality test".

I know some employers intentionally hire employees with low IQ (law enforcement), or unskilled workers (lower wage), but I suspect he was lying anyway. I feel like employers often use the 'overqualified' line to let someone down easily.

[Anonymous No.349219]

>>348770

because 23% of youths are fucking lazy entitled pieces of shit

[Canaduhfag. No.349234]

>>348954
>Law enforcement
>Low IQ's
WOT? Unless you mean security guards, I dont think so there m8.

[Anonymous No.349247]

>>349219
The me generations are breeding more me generations this cant end well.

[Anonymous No.349261]

>>348852
Was it a secretary job? If so being attractive is part of the job description. I don't want an uggo secretary.

[Anonymous No.349267]

>>349234
http://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
>Court OKs Barring High IQs for Cops
>A man whose bid to become a police officer was rejected after he scored too high on an intelligence test has lost an appeal in his federal lawsuit against the city.

[Anonymous No.349271]

>>349261
Nah but the job is that you're pretty much stashed in the back typing all day long. It's a little entry job to sink my teeth into, add onto my resume, get some dosh, hire someone to build a prototype for a future venture.

[Anonymous No.349273]

>>348827

>I've known people dealing with "Impostor Syndrome"

I know that feel. Every supervisor I've ever had and my salary says otherwise. Meh.

[Anonymous No.349411]

>>348841
Yeah, don't let shit like that get you down. After I was rejected from a job that I thought I was suited for, I spoke to my neighbour who was a pretty high up manager at a medium-sized company and he told me shit like this happens all the time. In many cases, they've already chosen someone internal for the position, but they have to, as per company policy, advertise and interview external applicants for the position, which just wastes everyone's fucking time. And obviously the company won't tell you this when they reject you.

>Funny thing is, the job posting is still up and they still haven't found anyone. It's been over two years.

It's called 'being sloppy'. They likely just forgot to take the ad down when they hired someone.

[Anonymous No.349585]

>>349267
For what purpose?

[Anonymous No.349885]

>>348574

>apply for job
>online assessment
>next stage
>telephone interview with HR
>next stage
>skype interview
>next stage
>travel 100 miles
>meet people
>"we need someone with 2+ years C++"
>don't have 2+ years C++
>the end

Fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.349904]

>18 years old
>I'm extremely good a writing and language, had the talent from a young age.
>My resume is beyond what anyone my age could write, and beyond most people in the professional world today.
>Send my resume in for tons of jobs
>Constantly getting denied
>Very curious as to why, since I usually nail every position I've ever applied for.
>Start calling up all the places
>Eventually after a couple of "Sorry I can't find your resume (A.K.A I deleted it)"
>Get told that my resume was way too professional and they didn't believe I wrote it since I was 18 and thought I had paid a professional to write it for me and didn't want to hire someone who couldn't do their own resume.
>Tell them and try to convince them I wrote my own resume without assistance.
>They tell me I'm lying and hang up.

Fucking cunts, I've now lowered my resume standard, getting more job offers now. What the fuck

[Anonymous No.349906]

>entry level positions in my city require minimum 2 years experience
>they have people who are overqualified working jobs two levels below what they'd be working in capital cities
>working for half the pay, literally the legal minimum
>in a city where the cost of living is almost higher than the state capital

Surely, I must live in Hell.

[Anonymous No.349911]

>>348574
This one really weirded me out
>Handed up resume
>Got called in, group interview, they'll pick 5/30 people from the interview
>Everyone has to introduce themselves
>Most people declined to, couldn't due to lack of english, or sputtered everywhere
>Introduced myself like a normal person
>Had to do a group task
>Everyone just sat on their hands, so I organized the thing
>Got the task done with time to spare
>Didn't even get a callback

I don't even understand how you can get a job if all you do in the interview is sit on your hands and look at the floor, but I have a feeling I wouldn't have liked the kind of people they hire there...

[Anonymous No.349926]

>>349904
Now you've got me curious to how brilliantly written your résumé was that you made employers sceptical, could you post a before & after between both your new and old résumé? Leave out all the personal details of course.

[Anonymous No.349938]

>>349906
what city is that again?

[Anonymous No.349945]

>>349926
he wont do it

[Anonymous No.349961]

>>349904
>I'm extremely good 'a' writing and language, had the talent from a young age.

>anyone my age could "write, and" beyond most
> , and

mmmmm

[Anonymous No.349968]

>>348954
"The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York upheld a lower court’s decision that the city did not discriminate against Robert Jordan because the same standards were applied to everyone who took the test."

Oh lawd, is that how the US defines discrimination?!
>"We did not hire him because he was black"
>"It is not discrimination because all applicants were required to not be black"

[Anonymous No.349971]

>>349904
Don't blame them, blame your shithead friends and classmates for not being able to write a pepper resume. It's not hard.

[Anonymous No.349973]

>>349971
Fuck
*proper

[Anonymous No.349987]

>be college kid working in a cafe primarily making sandwiches looking for 2nd job
>local Firehouse subs hiring
>ask what do for application
>online application, and print application
>do both come in also with resume well dressed whole nine yards
>manger is out
>repeat that three days in a row
>they tell me to leave my information and call him if he doesn't call me over the weekend
>next monday call him
>"yea I'm waiting for the end of school (which is in a month from that point) and then I'll probably just pull some names off of online."
Asshole didn't even read my application or acknowledge my efforts and instead is just going to call up random people? I'm glad I didn't write my SSN on the print application so it could sit on his desk with all my info for a week then get thrown away.

[Anonymous No.350002]

>>348910
Seriously, what kind of tiny ass gun is that? It's a BB gun right?

[Anonymous No.350006]

>>350002
http://jimenezarmsinc.com/
probably something like this, they are shitty cheap handguns designed for concealment and mostly purchased by "urban youth."

[Anonymous No.350008]

>>350002
>>350006
This is what I was about to say.

[Anonymous No.350012]

>>349234
I don't think law enforcement officers have high IQs. It may be just from my personal experience and/or that I'm from the US.

[Anonymous No.350031]

>>349968
Woops, that was meant for:
>>349267

[Canaduhfag. No.350090]

>>349267
Murrika.

In Canada most cops have their Bachelors at the minimum. We also pay around 55k a year to start...

[Anonymous No.350140]

>>350090
Most places that arent poor inner cities require cops to have a degree now in the US

[Anonymous No.350157]

>>348574
>apply for inner company position
>no interview
>guy I work with gets the interview and the job with only 2 more month experience at the same position as me

[Anonymous No.350233]

>need entry level job because I'm a pleb who didn't get started in highschool
>apply to a couple jobs online within the same company
>waiting for any kind of response, but there is none
>a few days later I see that I missed a call from a number within the area code
>realize that it may have been the company telling me they are considering me for the job
>realize that my stupid answering message from 9th grade tricked them and when they realized it they also realized how immature I may be

It's one of those messages where I pretend that I'm receiving the line
it goes something like
>Hello?
>Oh hey it's you
>Listen there's been something I've been meaning to tell you
>you just mean so much to me and
>and I think I love you
>I love you with all my heart and soul
>
>anyway, leave a message after the beep, thanks

[Anonymous No.350246]

>>348574
>apply for job at the top of an organization that has at least 27000 people working there.
>get hired.
>still have to make it trough the elections.
>9 seats available and im #2 on the list. i should be good.
>party had an insane amount of time to prepare for the election.
>mfw they didnt prepare and i didnt make the board.
>mfw i have no face

[Anonymous No.350396]

>>349234

Intelligent people question the ethics of what they may be forced to do or get bored of routine traffic stops.

They're looking for retarded paladins, not thoughtful priests.

[Anonymous No.350413]

>apply for an entry-level IT job
>send in the resume and get an interview offer
>the place is a good 45 minutes away
>drive all the way there using my phone's GPS to get there with plenty of time to spare
>do pretty well on the interview
>wait a few days and then call to hear about the status of the application
>call on two separate occasions over the next two weeks
>never heard back from them

I don't know why they never got back to me. Even a plain rejection would've done nicely, but a few months later, I got a job that pays pretty well and the commute is so easy, it's crazy.

[Canaduhfag. No.350428]

>>350413
See? Everything went better than expected.

In this day and age though, don't expect any sort of information of rejection. If you haven't heard in a few weeks, it's done for. Also: only do 1 follow up call.

[Anonymous No.350455]

>>348763
Why not? You could take them to court for gender discrimination

[Anonymous No.350479]

>>350428

I mean, yeah, it did, but escaping retail sooner would've been nicer.

[Anonymous No.350505]

>>349885
Why don't they ask from the get go?

[Anonymous No.350508]

>>349904
Suddenly I don't feel so bad about my resume.

[Anonymous No.350521]

>>350428

It's expected of employers to at least send rejection emails to people who interview on-site. It's a company's way of saying "Hey, I realize I wasted 8 hours of your day to come down here and interview, so I'm just giving you a courtesy reject email".

It would be *nice* to email rejections to people who don't get past phone screenings, but it's not very typical.

[Anonymous No.350530]

>>350521
No kidding, are they afraid of hurting my feelings? I'm a God damned adult, tell me if I made the cut or not.

[Canaduhfag. No.350550]

>>350521
8 hours of your day? what the fuck are you going on about?

They don't owe you shit, the least of which being courtesy.

[Anonymous No.350573]

>>350550

What pleb-tier jobs are you interviewing for where it takes less than 8 (ok, maybe 6) hours? And yes they do owe you shit. You're doing them a favor. Their employees all get paid to interview you.

Just like people are supposed to send thank you emails after an interview, they're expected to notify you one way or another. It literally takes them 10 seconds a person, send the same formulaic email to everyone, just switch out the name. If they have their shit together, it's as simple as checking some boxes and running a bot to autogenerate that name change and send out individual emails. That's the fucking common courtesy.

[Anonymous No.350757]

>>348852

140wpm at 98% accuracy?! Disgraceful! Mr. Park's son trained on Starcraft until he could perform 300wpm at 100% accuracy.

[Anonymous No.350791]

>>350521
You know what is funny?

>apply to jobs in America
>Some bites, some replies, a good portion don't even respond.

>Apply in China
>Every single job replied with at least something.

Come to find out that in China, keeping that face up is important and screwing someone over on something so simple is not a risk that most are willing to take.
I was told by a HR person when I took a job there.

[Anonymous No.350794]

I cannot be the only one who gets mad at jobs that don't reply to you.

I feel like cutting them off from any service I do.
I also feel like not hiring anyone who has ever worked there.
Maybe I'm just an asshat for that, but I feel some type of pent up rage for that.

[Anonymous No.350800]

>>350794
It's understandable when the employer is overwhelmed with applications and only has enough time in their day to reply to a select few. What isn't understandable is when an employer makes direct contact with you, severing this connection abruptly without any given reason why, it's poor business practice at best.

[Anonymous No.350806]

>>350794
>I also feel like not hiring anyone who has ever worked there

Maybe they beat you to the punch

[Anonymous No.350817]

>>350806
I remember Steve Jobs saying something similar to a recruiter who also hired for Sun Microsystems.

>YOU RECRUITED FOR SUN AND SUN HIRES SHITTY PEOPLE
>Steve you hired the ones Sun didn’t want
>Touché

[Anonymous No.350881]

>>348752
Most probably this, happens all the time. Something like 80% of jobs are filled through personal references.

[Anonymous No.350955]

>>350800
Bullshit. How long does it take to send out a mass generic email saying you didn't get the job? It's their job. Their HR department is just shit and/or lazy.

[Anonymous No.350965]

>>348752
Could be a gender quota.

It's funny how such blatant discrimination can pass as equality.

[Anonymous No.350970]

>>350955
Exactly my point.

Most big companies use an automated process anyway.
Just add them to the accept and reject piles.

I've had companies that wanted nothing to do with me but are now starting to contact me after I gained a little experience.
I treat them with the same respect they gave me. Fucking silence.

[Anonymous No.351184]

>>348574
>big aircraft leasing firm
>apply for graduate program
>get down to the final 8
>assessment centre designed to whittle it down to 4 (2 places available at the end)
>think it went really well
>didn't end up getting it
>get feedback from them a while later
>"you were great anon, but we didn't think you were being yourself, so we decided to go with someone else"

wtf

[Anonymous No.351190]

>friend gets me warehouse job
>$18 an hour
>work first two days
> manager says " you're doing great anon. We always need people. You're pretty much guaranteed 40 hrs a week"
>super excited now I finally have a job
>haven't scheduled me in over a week
>called 3 times asking them if I can work
>no reply

Fuck it. I'm just going to start my own business

[Anonymous No.351199]

>>351190
>Fuck it. I'm just going to start my own business

This. I'm so sick of interviewing, I'm either getting incredibly unlucky or I just suck at it

[Anonymous No.351260]

>>348574
Are you, by chance, an ex-convict with out a tie?

[Anonymous No.351375]

>>351184
work on your personality and appearance.

that goes to all of you losers who were overqualified but not picked. You still dont respect the importance of appearances

[Anonymous No.351383]

>ITT: clueless freaks that think they deserve a job simply cause they can do it

1. there is no such thing as deserve.
2. the ability to get along with people is important

nobody wants to work with a weirdo

[Anonymous No.351386]

I'm 6'4 and very good looking. Male managers always reject me, but pretend to not. My bosses have always been women.

[Anonymous No.351399]

>>351190
>>351199
>Fuck it. I'm just going to start my own business
This is the only way to really "win" in today's business world, but just be be prepared for some tough times along the way. Really tough, and they'll last for a few years, probably. Just don't give up.

[Anonymous No.351416]

>Have 8 interviews out of ten with giant MNC
>Met with COO, EVP and the like
>I ask my patented question, "After having interviewed me, what reservations would you have for hiring me?
>None, we want you here. You're an ideal candidate.
>last two interviews randomly canceled on me
>I call and email for once a week for three weeks
>Call me back. "Sorry, we are not interested. Other candidates had better strategies." Abruptly hang up on me.
>Upset because I foolishly put all my eggs in one basket.
>I call back the HR people two weeks later saying that I appreciated their time and since I have gone so far in the screening process that there has to be another position that is a better fit.
>Nope.jpeg

It's such a buyer's market; they have all the power. They suffer from "option paralysis." So many good candidates, not enough jobs.

All I want is a job. I hate being unemployed for this long.

[Anonymous No.351619]

>>351416

How long has it been?

[Anonymous No.351654]

>>349961

he said he lowered his standard!!

when did you expect it to kick in?

[Anonymous No.351665]

Apply for job as perl dev.
Handing in resume, have telephone interview.
Guy says my resume looks good.

>hear nothing weeks.
>send 3 emails, no response
>calling them.
>yeah sorry we are looking for someone with more experience in JSON and API development

mfw

>JSON and API development is now on my resume, it looks like af ucking circus.

[Anonymous No.351981]

>>351665
Yeah dude, I know that feeling.
My IT and Software Engi. resume looks like Frankenstein's monster.

Employers seem like they want you to do everything humanly possible with a computer with no specializations.

[Anonymous No.351987]

>>351383
Are we reading the same thread?

All I see are people getting shafted because HR is unresponsive or is just a teasing cunt.

Seriously, when HR tells you, "you seem like an ideal candidate for this position." Then it is worse than some bitch leading you on.
I've been there. Scared to take another job because that previous one was the "job of your dreams" and you want to see it to the end.

[Anonymous No.352035]

>go to interview
>the HR person spends the entire time telling me about how great the company is and only asks me a couple questions
>no call back

It felt like he was trolling me

[Anonymous No.352046]

>>351981

Generally speaking, the software development industry is an insult to any person with a reasonably high IQ. The companies typically create a laundry list of requirements because they're either too stupid to properly spec-out what the necessities for a position are or they're looking to hire an H1-B worker and have to find a way to disqualify an American.

The number of things I actually know and am highly skilled at is probably at around 50+ and I've had companies I've submitted resumes to saying that I lacked a skillset they were looking for.

I make a pretty large salary but it's incredible what these companies *ask* for; I'm not sure what they expect in reality. Quite honestly, I can't imagine any person who's adept at as many things as some job listings require being willing to abase himself to even talking to such crappy companies.

[Anonymous No.352048]

>>348841
I probably would have terminated the phone screen after 30 minutes. What a bunch of fucking douche bags.

They're probably still looking for some idiot from India whom they can pay a fraction of what they would have to pay an American. If they ever call you back, you should tell them up front you won't even consider the job unless it pays some massive salary. (I've had such a similar thing happen to me where, after wasting my time, the company contacts me a few months later. I blew them off since I knew they weren't worth working for.)

[Anonymous No.352051]

>>349971

any resume tips?

[Anonymous No.352328]

Didn't get hired at the bank because I'm in the National Guard and they didn't want to deal with me leaving every month and then for two weeks.

I tried getting a lawyer to help but it turns out the guy was the husband of the HR chick who refused to hire me. I have a new job at a call center but I only make $9/hr so I have to work at least 10 hours of overtime a week and have very little time to contact a different lawyer. Not sure what else I can do at this point.

[Anonymous No.352346]

>Thanks for applying to my posting. Your background seems to fit my criteria and would like to discuss further your participation with the company.
>I traveling this week but would like to set up a Skype call soon, maybe by the end of the week or early next week.

That was two weeks ago...

[Anonymous No.352355]

I have tattoos on my hands, fingers, and a few on my neck

[Anonymous No.352393]

>>350002
looks like a .380

[Anonymous No.352399]

I have another tale:

>get called in for an interview
>this one is also pretty far away
>car not in the greatest of shape
>take the long nearly hour drive, passing through two toll booths to get there
>arrive with 10 minutes to spare
>get interviewed and asked some questions
>answer them pretty well
>okay, we'll call you if we find something
>realize that I spent more time commuting from my house and back than I did in the interview
>mfw

[Anonymous No.352420]

>>348954
I was told a few years ago by 3 companies that I if I joined them they thought I'd leave in 3-6 months for a better job.

Now I run a business I see where they're coming from. Some jobs are just boring as fuck and you need the right personality to stay.

[Anonymous No.352966]

>>352420
Nice, I'm a friendless NEET shut-in because of something similar. I really want to fall into a scheduled work life but am too indecisive to start anything myself. I've always been able to spend a few months on something and live off the money for a year or so. When I'm around people I think I just try too hard and people can't really relate. But I come off as weird if I don't try. I've been this way since first grade. My only friend was a girl with severe behavioral issues who was sent to a foreign boarding school by her rich parents. She would borrow my pencils and return them looking like pic related.

[Anonymous No.353579]

>tfw trying to start to network and meet more people
>hope that I'll get a decent job despite my lack of high end education
>befriended all my co-workers and bosses at my minimum wage job, hope it'll get me somewhere
>realize I'll be that douchebag that get hired over someone with actual qualifications

I didn't want to do this. If everything was merit based, I wouldn't resort to this, but I need these jobs.

I swear, Networking or starting your own business is the only way to get a decent job.

[Anonymous No.354844]

I regret the stupid shit when I was younger
>apply for random toys r us job online
>still fresh in highschool
>decide to just wing it with using the online application form instead of sending them my resume
>use my junk email for account registration
I still wonder whether they noticed the junk email. For contact purposes I did send them my business email though.

[Anonymous No.355677]

>>348574
>Be mediocre
>Father tells me his friend (and my god father) owns an office in France
>One phonecall, yeah your godson needs an internship
>Alrighty, send him over we'll pay for the flight


Well fuck me, this ain't bad. Saw the grand prix in Monaco last week, and I'm a student with loans up to my neck. My family is poor from bad luck and a disability, but damn if they don't have good contacts from when they had the life.

[Anonymous No.355691]

>>350233
hahaha, fucking retard