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Ark
> He FUDded at $0.1
> He FUDded at $0.2
> He FUDded at $0.3
> He FUDded at $1
> He FUDded at $2
> He FUDded at $2.3
> He FUDed at $3
> He is FUDding at $3.3
> He is going to do it again at $5
> He will keep doing the same thing at $10, $20…

>> No.3432359

>>3432252
When will you stupid fucks start using technical analysis it literally predicted this.

>> No.3432388
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3432388

>>3432252
EIN KOIN UEBER ALLE KOINE
10ksats PER DAY
ERRY
DAY

>> No.3432516

>>3432252
How high will this go realistically?

>> No.3432571

CAN IT BE STOPPED

>> No.3432577

I-it'll dip back below 70k, r-r-right guys?

>> No.3432585

>>3432252

PLEASE DIP YOU MOTHERFUCKER

>> No.3432589

>TFW sold when it was 45k last and it hasn't dipped below it since

Well, that was astronomically fucking stupid of me.

>> No.3432604

>>3432589
I sold half my stack at 29k after bagholding for 2 months

>> No.3432702
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3432702

Official Ark theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqeUuMmxsfI

>> No.3432706

>>3432604
>>3432589

I sold all my ARK at 30K and then it jumped to 40k right away. I hoped it'd dip again to 28 or so but it never happened.

>> No.3432723

>>3432589
Same boat bhaijaan masallah

>> No.3432738

Correction: I'm on this >>3432706 boat

>> No.3432741
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3432741

Dont sell yet, we are headed up to 10$

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>>3432702
EVERYONE GIVE ARK YOUR ENERGY!!!

>> No.3432753

>>3432702
>not ssj3 heme
u dun goofed

>> No.3432767

FUCK I sold 2000 Ark at $2.90 because I thought it was going to dip again.

Am I fucked for good or will it go back down?

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>>3432767
I'm sorry m8, but either you take the loss or you're rocket ship ride is gone for good.

I almost did the same as you too.

>> No.3432803

>>3432788
But, it has to dip right? Ark doesn't usually grow this fast

>> No.3432807

This is skating above RSI 80 like some psychotic olympian. Great memes guys.

>> No.3432846

So what's sparking the moon mission atm? Roadmap announcement?

>> No.3432847

DIP INCOMING

SELL

>> No.3432862
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3432862

Starting an ark discord for TA, news, speculation etc.
Discord.gg/faTgXb

>> No.3432863

>>3432847
I hope it dips. Need to buy more t b h

>> No.3432875

>>3432863
Same dude, I fucked up and sold at $2.90 in the hopes to buy more at less

>> No.3432882

Tempted to sell now to re-buy later at a dip, but hodling always seems to be the best option

>> No.3432883

>>3432803
yes because its pump and dump by /biz/ discord chills ... almost everytime i refresh there is a new chill thread up lol

>> No.3432891
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>>3432803
I dunno man, ever since the bot trader got taken out at $1.50, its just been going up and nothing but.

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>>3432252
I want to buy like 100 ark coins

How do I do that? Coinbase and robinhood does not have ARK

>> No.3432894

what a fucking amazing coin

>> No.3432911

what even is ARK?
The website literally just says "WE ARE USEFUL"
but mentions not how it is.

>> No.3432930

>>3432883
>pump and dump
>never really dumps
I don't think you know what a pump and dump is.

>> No.3432949

Should I sell my $100 of Sia and buy more ark? That shitcoin isn't going anywhere

>> No.3432953

>>3432949
Kek, YES

>> No.3432960

>>3432930
do you know the eye of the storm

>> No.3432973

>massive wall at 81k
Time to accumulate

>> No.3432989

>>3432893
Get ether on coinbase, send it to bittrex and buy ark.

>> No.3432995

>>3432973
make some gainz and buy lisk for double profit

>> No.3433012
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>>3432989
oh wow

okay what than?

eth is so expensive though, if i transfer it can i actually make money from 300 eth and than to bittex and ark?

I guess only way I'm going to learn is by trying...

>> No.3433024

>Want to buy more Ark
>Need BTC to buy Ark
>BTC kept getting these retarded false highs based on nothing bu pure chink hype
>Keep waiting for BTC to fall so I can buy some and immediately transform it into Ark.
>Ark keeps mooning and BTC still overvalued as fuck.

>> No.3433026

ARK ABOUT TO DROP HARD

SELL AND BE READY

>> No.3433029

>>3433012
do 50 / 50 split ark and lisk for double passive income

>> No.3433049

>>3432953
Luckily I sold like 40% of my Sia to buy the Ark I have when Sia was almost 2 cents so it hasn't been a total loss.

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farewell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpGAvmEVQTo

>> No.3433069

>>3433024
How is BTC overvalued faggot? Just cause you feel like it?

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>>3432911
answer me please

>> No.3433094

Why bother moving this shit out of the wallet ? The price never drops, even when bitcoin is crashing, and it pumps almost once in a week


Truly the most comfy coin of all time

>> No.3433104

LOL the wall is gone get in boi

>> No.3433110

>>3433074
a cheap ripoff from the original "lisk"
ark is a 1 dev stuttering potthead shitshow pumped by /biz/ discord shills
google lisk for the real coin and buy some, it will moon in the next weeks because they will release the SDK and rebrand

>> No.3433115

>>3432973

SELL WALL IS DOWN

We will breeze thought 100k soon

strap on, motherfuckers

>> No.3433122

>>3433110
ark has more than 60% core rewritten for the cancer that is lisk and its corrupt voting system
ARK is love
ARK is life

>> No.3433129

>>3432516
If you look at the whitepaper, it's built upon similar principles to Eth, but it is built to avoid the blockchain bloat. It's a modified PoS coin, it is predicated upon the principles of creating stronger relationships/connections across the environment, and the devs have been heavily involved in the broader crypto community for years.

They are building relationships with many existing market leaders (Ledger adoption is just one example of this), their public forums are active, and the devs are highly interactive with the community. They have a high level of long-term adoption with the majority of coins being utilized in the DPoS system (as opposed to being traded or held on exchange wallets), block times are extremely fast, transaction costs are growing, but malleable and still relatively low (.1 Ark at the time of this post), and the price is being driven by the fact that a full 82% of Ark not being held either by the devs or Bittrex is being held in voting wallets (i.e. off exchanges).

Ark is a project that is growing organically, because people are hearing about it and legitimately seeing the use case. It's going to hit hardcore FOMO levels once they introduce ACES, and even more so when push-button deployable blockchains become part of the ecosystem.

Ark is looking to not only implement the coin as a functional currency with point-of-sale adoption, they're looking to build upon technology within the community to create interconnected blockchains that will allow you to easily transfer liquidity from one chain to another.

IF (BIG IF) Ark can deliver on their roadmap, they will become the next PayPal, utilizing blockchain tech to literally take over the P2P and small business payment systems. That's what people are betting on.

>> No.3433132

PREPARE FOR TAKE OFF

>> No.3433133

>>3433074
yup, u totally looked at the site and only saw that.

Guess your 3rd world flip phone can't render the "About" page, or the "Roadmap" page, or the whitepaper page?

All of those are in the nav bar idiot

>> No.3433138

>>3433024
if you just want ark it doesn't matter what fucking price you buy BTC at, dingus. just buy it.

>> No.3433167

Should I put my 8 BTC into ark right now??

>> No.3433185
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>>3432252
Fuck off with that Citroen coin, it mooned already and we sold.

Keep your bags if you like them so much.

>> No.3433193

>>3433167
This is like asking if you should buy bitcoin years ago

>> No.3433203

>>3433167
yes

>> No.3433215

>>3433185
>"It mooned already"
Kek, hit a new ATH in the past hour.

>> No.3433237

>>3433167
I find it hard to believe someone with 8 BTC will buy a coin cuz some anon tells them to. No way ur that dumb.

That said, I believe in Ark and am holding. If ur not larping, I wait for the day someone tells u to buy espers on yobit and u listen.

Do your own research or get eaten alive

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>>3433133
The about page (not in the nav bar idiot) says:

fast (like any other shitcoin)

decentralized(like any other coin maybe except XRP)

bridging (with no explanation whatsoever as to what that is)

arkshield (is that like g2a shield? do I save money by opting out?)


Roadmap tells me NOTHING is close to done. Why are they working on a wallet redesign before implementing features?

why are there FUCKING EXCEL GRAPHS in their whitepaper? Where's the math?

Jesus christ this is going to crash and burn so fucking hard.

>> No.3433266

>>3432846
medium article this morning about ark

>> No.3433274

>>3433193
It's more like walking into your local McDonald's, and asking the first stranger what stock you should invest in

Any1 who asks strangers for advice on what to invest their $30,000k is either larping or an idiot.

However, I'm long on Ark. Got in at $0.60, loving this.

>> No.3433298

>>3433215
>Uses quotes
Gtfo normiefag, or at least post some bundas to help us welcome you.

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3433317

Have 800 ARK, dump rest of my portfolio and go all in rn?

>> No.3433333

I dont believe you faggots. Last time that I listen to and advice from here, I bought 5000 USD of NEO at 48 USD. Now I am at 60% of loss

>> No.3433336

>>3433129
>>3432516
What this other anon said, if the dev team stays active and IF they deliver on their roadmap, I see it being the #2 coin on the market. but that wouldn't happen for a minimum of 2 years, 4 years realistically

>> No.3433337

>>3433317
No you dumbfuck

Wait until Ark dips back to $2.50 and then go all in. Don't let FOMO control your brain

>> No.3433339

>>3433245
Yes, cuz ACES isn't like ~90% done on the roadmap? Cuz we didnt receive a wallet redesign 4 weeks ago? (we did)

Aside from all the big things they are doing, I really like them expanding this to other programming languages(Jave, C, .NET, Typescript,etc...) I tried to get into ethereum and coding for it. Solidity doesn't have a lot of documentation, at least not enough for me. But I do know .NET.

Complaining that roadmap with nothing done? A lot are nearing completion. Also, no1 said this was bitcoin. This is new. Any1 getting in is still an early adopter before any of their features are implemented.

It's day 1 of youtube, no features yet - but they know they will do video watching. And here you come saying "WTF they don't have a product!!!!." Investing in something that doesn't have a working product (YET) is a thing.

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3433342

>Only have about 160 ARK
>Bought in when sub $1, then some more when it was about $2.50
>Just about $400 in profit if I were to sell now, which I am not

As a nocoiner before this, I am happy.

>> No.3433351

>>3433333
What a waste of quints

Research projects before buying fool

>>3433337
Hate to tell you this but whales wouldn't let it drop below $3

>> No.3433358

>>3433339
>Investing in something that doesn't have a working product (YET) is a thing.
it's the ONLY thing, in fact. it's how investing works.

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>>3433333
The real lesson is to never buy Chinese products. Sorry that you and everyone else fell for their usually trickery. Luckily ARK is an American/European product.

>> No.3433380

>>3433337
>wait for dip retard
says the fag that got burned daytrading

>> No.3433388

>>3433358
Technically No, I could invest my money into Google today, and they have a working product.

But yes, you tend to see more returns when investing in a project before a working product

>> No.3433393

>>3433371
ARK is as non-chink as you can get, and a big part of why it's mooning now.

>> No.3433404

>>3433337
also
>uses USD instead of satoshi
kys

>> No.3433425

>>3433393
It is the greatest Euro-American alliance since WW2

Mike and Francois are Roosevelt and De Gaulle, respectively

>> No.3433434

Had 200 ark and sold it all at $0.5 when it first release in summer

>> No.3433442

>some whale is trying to keep the price down but failing

>> No.3433491

>>3433245
>roadmap tells me NOTHING is close to done
...you're being a bit misleading there, no? I can see at least 3 or 4 major releases that are more than 75% complete (mobile wallet introduction, encoded listener implementation, expansion of supported programming languages, deployment of push-button blockchains, etc.).

At any rate, transparency is refreshing. Where does Eth tell you how close they are to releasing Metropolis? What about transitioning to PoS? When is all that going to happen?

>Why are they working on wallet redesign before features
1. They're doing both (when you have a solid dev team of more than 1 person you can have someone focusing on wallet redesign while someone ELSE works on additional functionality! shocker), and
2. Wallets are the primary interaction between the user and the blockchain. For wide adoption, this experience needs to be seamless, easy, and well designed/clean. Would Apple be popular if they didn't focus on design?

>excel graphs in their whitepaper
Are you referencing the inflation schedule? Because that's literally the only non-custom graphic, which yes, looks like a chart, because that is the most reasonable way of presenting that data. How would you present a comparison chart of the inflation schedules between Ark, Lisk and Ether?

>> No.3433495

>>3432604
Sold all my ark at 29k and 30k, still waiting on that eternal dip

>> No.3433514

ITS DIPPING

>> No.3433535

>>3433333
Why are you complaining about NEO in an Ark thread?

Besides, comparing Ark at $3.50 to NEO at $48 is asinine. If you look at the timeline of both projects, and the accomplishments of both projects, there's no question as to which dev team has the more novel concept, has accomplished more on their timeline, and is overall more competent as far as introducing features is concerned. Do your own research, though.

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>>3433495

>> No.3433579

>>3433491
Use python or LaTeX to generate graphs. They are a bloody programming company/project.

and regarding your 2nd point of wallets, I guess I am of the conviction that the engine of a car is more important than the seats and the steering wheel.

>> No.3433580

>>3433495
I bought your bags (and probably a lot of other peoples'), and I couldn't be happier.

GL with your future investments!

>> No.3433588

Enormous dip incoming

>> No.3433667

>>3433580
Shut up, you gloating faggot.

>> No.3433674

>>3433579
>they could use python or LaTeX
Way to pick nits, but sure. Point conceded. The graph that they produced in 2016 to explain the long-term coin distribution schedule is a bit janky.

>the engine is more important than the seats and the steering wheel
Ok, but that statement implies that the "engine" (in this case the tech) is somehow inferior to that of other projects. So please tell me what exactly about Ark is inferior to its competitors below it in market cap.

I would actually argue that the Ark blockchain is easily better than half of the top 10 in terms of actual, viable use case in today's market. What about the "engine" of Ark is so lackluster compared to the major players in the blockchain space?

The use case is at least as strong as Lisk, their blockchain is as strong as any other PoS coin, their tech is lofty enough to get the attention and cooperation of Eth devs, and they are more scaleable than Bitcoin. What about that screams anything other than the segment leader (to continue the car metaphor).

>> No.3433677

>>3433588
U said this 1 hour ago, and its gone up since then.

Yes, most coins dip after reaching ATH. I guess you will eventually be right if u keep posting "its gonna dip" every 15 minutes.

However, what happened with OMG. When it went from $5 to $12? How many said 'wait for dip' at $6? $6.50? $7? etc...

In the end, no1 knows what will happen, stop acting like you know.

Eventually you will be right. Most things do dip, especially after an ATH, but no1 knows when it will stop rising and what it will dip to - don't act like $2.50 is certain.

A broken clock tells the right time twice a day.

>> No.3433766

>unironically waiting for a 15-20% dip to buy more

>> No.3433796

>>3433674
I don't see use cases, they don't present use cases. That's what bothers me. Sure they might take a point on bitcoin or ethereum in some areas, but those are now heavily "corporatized" projects, that require extensive planning and research. It's not hard for a new blockchain startup to beat them at parts of their own game, since the space is now more mature. But what does ARK offer that cant be introduced to the current top 10 segment?
I'm all for shilling coins, heck I made a small fortune on ether by listening to biz and buying in when it was sub $3. But Ethereum had its tech explained, there were clear use cases being explained. It seemed innovative because they had a passion and a belief.
In contrast ARK (and MANY other coins) seem like they run purely off of the hype mill, to generate some money for the dev team and IF that project becomes "successful" and they attract investors and garner a positive reputation, THEN they will start actually working on their product. And it's product I don't see in ARK. Feel free to correct me.

>> No.3433834

>>3433796
Did you see the wallet?

>> No.3433845

>>3433796
bitcoin and ethereum also don't have use cases.

ark is introducing smart bridge, which connects blockchains. that's at least as much a use case as smart contracts, esp because it builds upon them and ties it to the value store in btc

>> No.3433861

>>3433845
> Bitcoin doesn't have use cases

> This delusional

>> No.3433878

>>3433861
name one. you can't use it as a currency. it's a store of value only at this point.

>> No.3433899

>>3433796
Smartbridge with ETH has already been tested, but here's a use case for you.

Technically, if you buy ETH/BTC(etc) and hold and the price goes up. GREAT! But now you want to invest into OMG (or something else). You transfer some of your BTC to the exchange and buy.

But you just exchanged ur BTC that you made profits on. Uncle Sam wants you to pay taxes for all profits, and when you make a transaction like that - ur supposed to pay ur taxes. This is a clusterfuck. I need to track every single little exchange I make?

Here comes Ark. They have smartbridge, it connects to multiple blockchains. ETH, BTC, etc, you name it.

You can now use Ark to do your trades. Want ETH? Use Ark. Wanna get into a new ICO that is giving an ECR token? Use ARK instead of ETH.

Technically, you aren't leaving the blockchain anymore. It's still using Ark.

Don't quote me on this, but it's quite possible that you can classify this as a 1031 exchange: "Thanks to IRC Section 1031, a properly structured 1031 exchange allows an investor to sell a property, to reinvest the proceeds in a new property and to defer all capital gain taxes."

Thus, saving taxes. While this doesn't apply to me, I can see it being big for whales.

Aside from all this smartbridge talk - which is the bread and butter. Ark is also releasing push-button blockhains. A startup wants to use blockchain, but not use the dev hours to make one or clone one? They use Ark push button. Done, blockchain made - with smartbridge to ETH or something else - in a language the devs understand (Java, C#, etc) - saving them time and money.

>> No.3433902

>>3433878
I'm not that anon, but you can use BTC to pay for things on certain websites.

>> No.3433909

>>3433899
>But you just exchanged ur BTC that you made profits on. Uncle Sam wants you to pay taxes for all profits, and when you make a transaction like that - ur supposed to pay ur taxes. This is a clusterfuck. I need to track every single little exchange I make?
Or I can just not pay taxes like I've been doing.

>> No.3433917

>>3433902
>why would I buy a cup of coffee with BTC when the fees are $7

>> No.3433931

>>3433917
Ah dang I forgot about that, you still can buy things I guess if you are a good goy

>> No.3433934

>>3433909
If you wanna commit Tax Evasion, that's up to you. And for me, it also makes no sense when I only send $100 here and there.

That said, I wasn't talking about "YOU". There are whales that actually pay taxes, cuz they make a lot of gainz, and the IRS will see that. So potential of a 1031 can be big for whales.

>> No.3433957

>>3433909
Then youre retarded and a tax evader and clearly this isnt for you

>> No.3433968

>>3433796
>I don't see use cases, they don't present use cases

You clearly haven't actually read the whitepaper. Go read it, specifically page 20-23 which references the planned use cases and adoption plan for the Ark ecosystem; then read up on encoded listeners and ACES, then do whatever you want to do.

If you don't like the tech, fine, don't spend your money, but this uninformed FUDding and/or attempt to get me to explain the use cases and value proposition for you is just a waste of my time.

>> No.3433972

>>3433899
While I get your point, I don't like it.
firstly, the whole pay taxes on crypto doesn't apply to my country (and many others). Secondly that is a use case that is literally just "making it worth more". It might bump up the price, but it's not tech that's interesting, it's not groundbreaking and and sure as fuck isn't very useful if ark doesn't get a foothold.
Secondly, you mention smart bridges. How is that different from forking and compiling? surely a company that wants to use blockchain knows at least enough to fork a project? An also, that requires blockchain tech in general to be adopted in order to be useful. It does nothing to further incentivize blockhain adoption on its own.
It is an entire project, riding only on the success of those who came before it, in my opinion.

>> No.3433976

>>3433934
>There are whales that actually pay taxes, cuz they make a lot of gainz, and the IRS will see that
Only if you want them to.

>> No.3434065

>>3433972
>How is that different from forking and compiling?

Cuz a fork is a new branch...Ark will have encoded listeners looking at the LIVE blockchain.

>the whole pay taxes on crypto doesn't apply to my country (and many others)

You asked for a use case, I provided one. There are many others. Just cause it doesn't apply to you, doesn't mean it's not valid.

But here you go
>>3433968

>It is an entire project, riding only on the success of those who came before it, in my opinion.

Didn't ETH sorta ride on the success of BTC? Didn't every other crypto that came out sorta ride on the success of BTC? If BTC didn't reach it's current price, or market cap, do you really think we'd all be here?

That's your opinion. And that's the beauty of it. Your entitled to your opinion. If you don't like it, don't buy it. But there are plenty of people who believe in it, and are excited about it.

Crypto is built on speculation, and we all speculate that if they release what they say they will - the price will go up a lot. You can disagree. That's your choice - but in no way are you right to say it won't work, just as in no way am I right to say it will moon. It's all speculation.

>> No.3434109

>>3433972
>It is an entire project, riding only on the success of those who came before it, in my opinion.

99% of alt's

>> No.3434159

>>3433167
do you want to have the chance to buy bitcoin at $100?

>> No.3434179

>>3433972
Let me walk you through the use case of encoded listeners, because you clearly don't get it.

For argument's sake, let's just say you want to buy Lisk, using Eth you have currently in a wallet you own the private key for (MEW or similar).

Would you rather...
>use an encoded listener to create an Eth transaction to shift your Eth to LSK, in one transaction, paying only whatever the Eth transaction costs with an added .1 Ark fee, and waiting 1 Eth block to confirm transaction, 1 Ark block to confirm encoded listener contract, and 1 block to receive your funds into the destination wallet

OR

>deposit your eth into an exchange wallet, paying transaction fee to deposit and waiting the necessary 10-40 confirmations for transaction to be "confirmed"
>sell your Eth for BTC and pay the transaction fee
>sell your BTC for LSK and pay the transaction fee
>establish a personal white-listed wallet on your exchange so you can actually withdraw your funds into your personal wallet, and wait whatever the waiting period on that is so you can actually withdraw your funds
>pay the exchange fee to withdraw your funds from the exchange to your personal wallet

Which one sounds better, faster, more efficient and cost effective to you?

Now, tell me who else can do that? Because Ark devs have already done it, and are just now going through the final process of actually implementing this functionality into a simple-to-use addition to their platform that is both functional and simple, so anyone who understands how to initiate an Eth transaction can do this.

How is that not a novel use case?

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The first biz_classic vote is live. If you're part of biz_classic, the future of the payout system is in your hands.

Anyone who joined before the 100% promotion ended is eligible to vote (splitters joined after).

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>> No.3434192
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3434192

>tfw i fell for the college scam
>tfw when i had to sell 4000/5000 of my ark during the crash to pay tuition
>tfw that decision will haunt me forever

>> No.3434278

>>3434179
If that actually doesn't at all rely on the blockchains you want to shift to, I suppose that is pretty cool. Please point me to where I can read more on this, because it smells like tokens to me.

so there are 3 options
ARK gets popular and works
one other crypto gets widely adopted, leaving ark sorta moot
or this https://xkcd.com/927/

And really, I'm not trying to poop on anyones parade I just want to know that at least some of the people shilling coins actually have a faintest idea what is going on behind the curtains.

Also compare the ARK whitepaper to either of these. And tell me ARK has potential for even a fraction of the marketshare these have. http://gavwood.com/paper.pdf https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

>> No.3434300

It's gotta dip right? FOMO is setting in hard but I don't want to end up kicking myself

>> No.3434308

>>3434189
Fuck off

>> No.3434312

>>3434278
>I just want to know that at least some of the people shilling coins actually have a faintest idea what is going on behind the curtains

Here's the thing. 99% of the shills here don't have the faintest idea. Assume that. I do. If someone starts shilling something, and by happenstance it catches my eye - I don't just buy like a tard. I go the website, view the announcement, read the whitepaper. You should do the same.

>Please point me to where I can read more on this
Anon said it well:
>>3433968

>> No.3434316

>>3432252
not gonna lie, I actually fudded this since the release. cant believe it actually continued the Chad Pattern

>> No.3434319

>>3434308
don't tell uncle chang to fuck off, you piece of shit

>> No.3434323

How many ARK does one need for it to become a good idea to choose a delegate and stake your coins?

>> No.3434325

>>3434319
Fuck off

>> No.3434329

>>3434308
U know, some of us actually are part of the biz_classic delegate. You should fuck off

>> No.3434335

>>3434325
don't tell anon to fuck off, you piece of shit

>> No.3434337

>>3434312
I've read their whitepaper. It doesn't explain how. They literally want OTHER blockchains to implement their listening feature.

>> No.3434340

>>3434323
1000 will get you at least 2 ARK per week with the big delegates like dr10 and sharkpool

>>3434329
No one cares

>> No.3434369

>>3434340
>Actually recommending a delegate that pays 60% over biz_classic
>Actually recommending the #1 delegate which would dilute your pay to nothing over biz_classic

Kill yourself heem

>> No.3434376

>>3434337
It's my understanding that Ark doesn't need the others to implement their listening feature. They can do it to whatever blockchain they wanna add it to. But someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

>It doesn't explain how.
Most white papers won't. It's not a functional product yet. Hence why we are still early adopters. I'm in cuz I believe in it, and if they can pull it off in a way that works, I feel it can raise.

But yes, they might not explain everything. Remember, white papers are usually theories and ideas. Else it would already be released, etc.

It's all speculation, and all a risk. A risk I'm okay with.

>> No.3434425

>>3434335
Don't tell Anonymous what to do, you piece of shit

>> No.3434427

>>3434340
>No one cares

Yup, none of the people voting care. Thats why when they posted the news of the vote, the thread hit 100+ posts discussing it. Guess no1 cares.

Oh wait, I forgot. Ur that guy who think tax evasion is easy to get away with - and that the only people who get investigated by the IRS are the ones that want them to. Kek, who the fuck wants the IRS to investigate them?
>>3433976

>> No.3434442

>>3434427
>Kek, who the fuck wants the IRS to investigate them?
People like you that are stupid enough to declare their meager crypto gainz.

>> No.3434475

>>3434308
Hey fuck you nigger

>> No.3434494

>>3434442
I already said for me to do it with my small gainz makes no sense
>>3433934

And I was talking about whales, and you said they only get investigated when they want.

I guess ur tiny brain can't remember 1 hour back, and you resort to shilling and name calling on 4chan. I'm sure ur mom is proud that u've grown into a manchild.

>> No.3434498

>>3434494
>you resort to shilling and name calling on 4chan

>I'm sure ur mom is proud that u've grown into a manchild.

lol

>> No.3434505

>>3434494
>ur
>u've
Are you 12?

>> No.3434524

>>3434505
Sorry for using shortcuts to type fast.

I'm actually 30. Am I allowed into your cesspool playground?

>> No.3434536

>>3434524
no adults allowed

>> No.3434539

it's time to stop responding to yIvwRMPr

>> No.3434557

>>3434536
sorry Senpai. Let me take it back, I'm now 17. Better?

>> No.3434582

AHHHH STOP BUYING I SOLD ALL MY ARK AT $2.90 BECUASE I WAS GOING TO ACCUMLATE AT A LOWER PRICE AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

SToP

>> No.3434607

>>3434582
just hop back in with a loss and learn your lesson

>> No.3434610

>>3434557
MODS

>> No.3434616

>>3434607
That's a $1600 loss though

>> No.3434620

does anyone think there will be a dip after that high? not sure if i should sell and buy back later

>> No.3434633

>>3434524
>typing like that past the age of 21
Embarrassing. You dont engage in any kind of written correspondence with people that arent on reddit or 4chan, do you?

>> No.3434636

>>3434620
Definitely sell. It will probably dip back to $3

>> No.3434643

>>3434610
uh oh, the jig is up. I've been caught.

>>3434616
Looking at the order book, looks like theres a lot on the buy side. IDK how much it will dip.

You could wait and hope to get back in.
Buy now at a $1600 loss.
Or wait, maybe it doesnt dip, get back in for an even larger loss.
Or just never get back in and take ur profits elsewhere.

>> No.3434651

>>3434620
Of course there will be a dip. Are you this new?

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>>3433024

Your bitcoin is worth less so you get less Ark. Are you that dumb?

>> No.3434673

>>3434616
It hasn't truly dipped in a long time. This is the true form of ARK. I remember the 1st big dip, all the coins were falling except ARK. I realized then that this was the coin that could fly solo away from BTC and others did too since that's about the time we were getting regulated by the bot. Then about a month ago the bots wall was crumbled, its been on an uphill trend without stopping pretty much.

>> No.3434682

The conference yesterday revealed to the world the stuttering potheads that run this scam.

Price has already tanked 10%. Once it breaks through the $1.50 resistance the panic will begin and small holders and speculators will begin to offload, with the whales already long gone.

Once it shoots through the $1 mark, unabated FEAR will ripe through all ARKies. With all those who dumped their current accounts into this scam twitching at their arsehole continuously while refreshing bittrex.

The $0.50 mark will be met, the largest panic in history will ensue. The final deluded Nodes will begin to go offline, and wagecuckers with their engineering salaries loaded up in ARK will be left with it stuck in their wallet, unable to move it to bittrex to salvage some self respect.

The price WILL tank at this point to sub $0.10, and most probably sub ICO levels.
2

From that day forward the deluded Arkie wagecucking engineering nerds who bought this coin thinking it had fundamentals will go back to their jobs, with no money in their current accounts, to be made redundant by the next wave of pajeets arriving to undercut their wages.

Deluded ARKies will hold bags FOREVER, with no job, no money, and no crypto.

I warned you ARKies. There's still time to get out. Sell NOW.

Don't be deluded, don't be an ARKie.

>> No.3434698

>>3434673
To piggy back off this, I originally got Ark at $0.50

Last week I pulled the trigger at $2.50. I was waiting for a dip for over a week - got greedy, didn't dip enuf for me (the few times it did late at night/morning). Never really did. Eventually wised up and just got in at $2.50. Glad I did.

>> No.3434717

10$ tomorrow

>> No.3434727

>>3434698
How many did you buy for $2.50?

>> No.3434735

>>3434278
You have to understand that the Ethereum and BTC whitepapers were not only attempting to explain the use case for the product, but justify the security of their hashing algorithm, so the whitepapers were necessarily much more technical than Ark's.

Ark is based upon a Lisk fork. Lisk has been around for a while, so the crypto algo is already shown to be secure in practice.

Beyond that, the Ark whitepaper has not been updated since the ICO, and what's more is that the entire purpose of the coin has been geared at broad adoption; with that in mind, a lot of people don't have the requisite technical knowledge to understand how the technical aspects of encoded listeners or sidechains or NFC payment terminals work; they just want to understand how it fits into the ecosystem, which Ark attempts to explain.

Aside from this, their purpose is really to bring blockchains together, so they can't be overly prescriptive in the manner in which they intend to implement their products, as the marketplace is built upon relationships, and if they lay out specifics in their founding documentation that are untenable in application, they've shot themselves in the foot before they've begun.

Agreed, the Eth and BTC whitepapers are much more technical and in-depth than the Ark whitepaper. While that is the case, I don't necessarily agree that this means the use case is any less valid.

If you actually read the Eth paper you linked, it's not really a whitepaper so much as a highly technical description of their deployment of the Eth algorithm and how it works, with little to no attention to the use case. If you read the BTC whitepaper, easily half the paper is devoted to the algorithm before getting into the big-picture of the platform and use cases.

If the argument is that Ark isn't technical enough, then so be it, don't invest. If the argument is that they don't know what they're doing, let's see what happens with the introduction of ACES and push-button blockchains first.

>> No.3434772

>>3434727
Only $100 worth. Not including the 160 I had before. I'm not expecting to retire or buy a lambo, but I'd love to pay off all/most of my student loans

>> No.3434790

>>3434772
Ah same, just about $100 on them when $2.50. I hope the coin at least gets to $10, it'll have a small nice return.

>> No.3434820

>>3434790
Definitely. About $700 into crypto total. Already around $2000 portfolio in 3 months. I'm in it for the long term. 1-5 years at least.

Still attempting to bruteforce my old wallet from 2013. Have .3 BTC in it, but I figured it was lost - so if I can't get it, no worries

>> No.3434962

>>3434189
How the fuck do you send a transaction with a vendor field wtf

>> No.3434982

>>3434962
"Vendor Field" was renamed "Smartbridge" in the latest wallet update. I wasn't aware of that when I was doing the webpage. Will update it when I get home.

>> No.3435003

>>3434982
>>3434962
lol this idiot doesnt know what he's doing

>> No.3435115
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3435115

G-G-Guys is it too late to get on the Ark?

>> No.3435179

>>3432252
anyone know how long it takes for bittrex to send ark to ark wallet? just rough estimate of time.

>> No.3435220

>>3435179
Not long. Just remember to click the confirmation link in your email.

>> No.3435327

>>3435115
wait for a dip. 15-20% incoming

>> No.3435943

>>3435220
thanks got it. when i clicked confirm email it wasnt registering as i didnt click the home button after.

second question, how do i edit ark payout preferences once i join biz_classic?

>> No.3435953

>>3435943
Register on the website: https://classicdelegate.biz
Verify your account.
Then change your pay schedule in your dashboard.

>> No.3435954

>>3435943
Not Chang, but go to https://classicdelegate.biz/dashboard and setup an account there. There you can change the payout pref.

>> No.3436040

>>3435953
>>3435954
thanks found it.

>> No.3436140

Incoming dip so I can get back onboard.

>> No.3436154

>>3436140
>yfw that buywall

>> No.3436169

>>3436154
>>3436140
What I have been noticing is the wall just keeps moving right, looks like they're trying to slowly increase the price.

>> No.3436170

>>3436154
I may have fucked up :(

>> No.3436183

Ark is the mark of the beast. Do not want.

>> No.3436263

>>3435953
I asked you this before and I don't know if you replied because I forgot to come back and check:

Let's say I need to change my Ark wallet passphrase and I'm currently grandfathered. Would my new wallet be grandfathered if I organized it with you guys beforehand?

>> No.3436280

>>3436263
Give me your old and new address.
Send a tx from your new address to the delegate address with "tzTnH/pd" in the smartbridge field

I'll move over your grandfathered status and pending balance.

>> No.3436325

>>3436280
Thanks Uncle. I don't know when I'll be doing it, but wanted to know before I did anything. I'll probably end up contacting you on discord or through other means.

>> No.3436367

>>3436183
>Ark is the mark of the beast
How so?

>> No.3436391

>>3435327
>wishful thinking

>> No.3436402

>>3436183
>Ark is the mark of the beast.
Antichrist here. I can confirm that Ark is not the mark of the beast. I haven't even created the mark yet.

>> No.3436403

>Google ark
find out it can be mined
>Google how to mine ark
Bunch of references to a game

The internet used to be helpful and make gathering concise information easy. Then crypto came along and nothing can be explained easily

>> No.3436411

>>3436403
https://blog.ark.io/dpos-and-ark-voting-explained-68596a171ca1

>> No.3436960
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3436960

SHOUTOUT TO ALL THE ARK BROS AND SISTAS WHO BEEN HERE BEFORE THE FUCKIN WHALES KEPT US DOWN FOR MONTHS.
PS biz_classic is the delegate you should all be voting for.

>> No.3436978

has anyone ever successfully put ark back on the exchange? it goes from trex to wallet in seconds but from wallet to trex it's taken an hour or more so far and it has me concerned. and yes i already have ark on the receiving wallet to match the 1 minimum

>> No.3436985

>>3436960
The whales made me lose faith and I got burned big time.
Never again.

>> No.3436992

>>3436978
It takes a while because exchanges want a lot more confirmations than the official wallet does.

>> No.3437007

>>3436992
cool thanks it just had me worried for a second as if i would never actually be able to sell my ark but it'll work out im sure

>> No.3437016

>>3432847
Nobody listen to this FUD. Any retard can make stupid claims (lies) like this for the purpose of being retarded

>> No.3437107
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3437107

>tfw only 242 ARK @ $2.22 average
>tfw first buy was at $0.84 as a novelty buy for funcoin collection shelf

>> No.3437279

This looks like a really good point to buy in if you haven't done so yet.

>> No.3437330

Just woke up.
WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK IS GOING ON?

>> No.3437345

>>3437107

That face will haunt my dreams. What the actual fuck...

>> No.3437351
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3437351

>>3433129
Best explanation I have seen, nice work anon.

>> No.3437352

What is the best way for a nocoiner to board the Ark?

>> No.3437363

>>3437352
>Buy bitcoin on coinbase
>Transfer bitcoin to your Bittrex account
>Trade your BTC for ARK there
>HOLD or vote for delegates if you want

>> No.3437364

>>3437352
Please respond I want to be saved from the deluge.

>> No.3437374

>>3437363
Bless you, anon.

>> No.3437381
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3437381

TAKE MY ENERGY

>> No.3437425

is it still mooning?

>> No.3437440

>>3437425
dipping now, Might continue to drop down to 75k at the lowest. Keep an eye on it.

>> No.3437468

>>3436280
>can make anyone "grandfathered in" at a whim

Still need my payout chang...

>> No.3437595

FYI: Ark's smartbridge is literally just a field that can hold 64 bytes of data, nothing else

>> No.3437651

ARK the shitcoin killer
https://i.imgur.com/tWfq4ZY.png

to the top 10

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3437666

>>3432388
JAWOHL!

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3437679

^ faggot but correct

>> No.3438761

It plateaued wtf

>> No.3438802

>>3438761
that's what ark has been doing for the last couple of weeks
pump -> new floor

Don't expect a big dip, dpos disincentivizes normies from selling.

>> No.3438852

>>3438802
Oh wait I take that back it's rising again

>> No.3438944

>>3432252
>tfw I literally did FUD at .10

>> No.3439112

>>3433024
retard

>> No.3439202

>getting $18K settlement end of month
>ARK entering outer atmosphere

401K loan time?

>> No.3439490

>>3432359
It doesn't take ta to see that perfect upward formed wedge, seriously had to be mental to miss this boat

>> No.3439569

ark sounds like one of the most promising currencies and if it turns out it could be worth a lot, but for now they have nothing and that's their value.

>> No.3439621

>>3439569
Wow such analysis so deep

>> No.3439652

>tfw 8 below 200 ARK but too poor to buy more

>> No.3439675
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3439675

Broke the 1BTC barrier.
We're all going to make it.

>> No.3439686

>>3439675
grats bro. we really are gonna make it

>> No.3439794

I just woke up, expecting my wallet to have dropped with 500 due to stabilizing. Instead it has risen, Ark truly is a godsend.

>> No.3439832

>>3437595

And no one else is doing it with such a simple solution. They are making the bridge idiot proof

>> No.3439843

>>3434278
>http://gavwood.com/paper.pdf

It's beautiful, ain't it? A true academic gem.

>> No.3439912

>>3433972
>firstly, the whole pay taxes on crypto doesn't apply to my country (and many others).

Hahahaha. For now. Centralized bureaucracy will always demand it's pound of flesh sooner or later. Why do you think so many countries are suddenly so open to the idea of (((legal))) pot?

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3439985

Is it too late to get on the ARK?

>> No.3440008

>>3437651
>posting an imgur link on an imageboard
You have to go back.

>> No.3440029

This shit is going to drop to $3 right?

>> No.3440082

>>3440029
nope

>> No.3440095

>>3439985
Of course not. Catch the little dip, be happy.

>> No.3440120

>>3440029
ARK is literally unsinkable.

>> No.3440144

>>3434524
cringe

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3440149

>>3440120
ARK is destined to rise with a high waters of Bitcoin and then stay on top of a mountain when waters are lower.
It was promised long time ago.

>> No.3440268

>>3436978

An hour sounds about right. Trex makes sure all 51 delegates confirm. Not one for those who panic.

>> No.3440333

>>3432252
>>3432388
OK I want aboard the Ark
I wont FUDed again. Only if you anons can answer my one simple question.

If you convince me, i have 45 bucks right now, and another 1k sitting aside. I will throw into Ark.

My question is simple what what is special about Ark. Convince me.

>> No.3440363

>>3440333

convince yourself, faggot. I ain't you're goddamn google and I could give a flying fairy fuck if you buy this shit or not. I'm in, I'm making gains, and that's all the fuck that matters to me. You could die tomorrow and it wouldn't pinch a dimple on my hairy white ass.

>> No.3440394

>>3440333
we're past the point of needing to "convince" sinners like you. either board the ark or don't.