/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.331806]

Anybody else pissed they never invested in Netflix?

[Anonymous No.331807]

Not really.

[Anonymous No.331808]

Not really. Hindsight is 20/20 and getting upset that you "missed" something is absurd.

[Anonymous No.331810]

>>331808
Well I'm mostly pissed because in 2012, I thought the opposite would've happened.

[Anonymous No.331812]

I take at least an hour out of every day being upset over missed investment opportunities.
Just imagine if I had invested in Microsoft at the right time, or Apple, or Bitcoin, or what if my great grandfather put $1000 into the S&P500 in 1930. I WOULD HAVE BEEN RICH. IF ONLY!!!!

[Anonymous No.331813]

Still pissed I didn't buy realestate.com.au stock when it was 17c.

Too young.

[Anonymous No.331817]

>>331812
>only spending an hour a day being upset over missed oppurtunities

I spend 8 hours a night tossing and turning while dreaming of what could have, but will never be.

[Anonymous No.331818]

>>331812
>1930
S&P500 was started in 1957.

[Anonymous No.331821]

>>331817
A two year investment could have allowed me to live like a royal freeloader for seven. God... damn it..

[Anonymous No.331980]

>>331821
2 years? Try 5 months, September-January...

https://www.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:GNVC

>mfw you plebs don't even know about GNVC

And then there's ICPT.. going from $70 to $400 in less than a week.

https://www.google.com/finance?q=icpt

[Anonymous No.332415]

>waiting a year or more for 200-300% return

Shit, I can get that inside of a day with options.

No, not sorry.

[Anonymous No.332430]

>>331806
>2014 investment regrets.
>Not 177 times your money with Priceline.

But on topic, I only got interested in investing a few years ago. However, if I had that investment love when I was younger, Apple, Netflix, and Amazon would be invested in by me well before they got big. I saw them, as businesses, exploding before they did. I remember when Netflix sent DVDs by mail (2003), when iPods were getting popular at schools (2004-2005), and when Amazon was getting bigger (2005-2006). With investment knowledge (especially Peter Lynch style), I absolutely would have made mad money in those. In retrospect, of course.

[Anonymous No.332454]

>>332415
Please tell us your secrets.

[Anonymous No.332468]

>>332454
The secret is that the great majority of day traders actually lose money.

[Anonymous No.332510]

>>331806

I'm pissed I never invested in Apple.

Back in 2007, I was CONVINCED that the iPhone would be successful; that there was no way such a product wouldn't have a load of hype and wouldn't be one of the most desirable products on the market and wouldn't make a load of cash.

Unfortunately, I didn't have the balls to put money down. Also I was 16 at the time. Although I suppose that isn't a reason in itself not to invest, but I just felt like I was a kid and kids don't do that sort of thing.

I also wish I had invested in Take Two Interactive a year or two before GTA V, because that's another problem which had pretty much zero chance of not being successful and not raising the value of its company.

[Anonymous No.332512]

>>332510
>that's another problem

I mean *product. What the fuck am I smoking tonight.

[Anonymous No.332519]

>>332510
I remember similar things when I was younger, getting an idea of who was going to be huge and who was going to flop. I feel like a large part of it was because I was essentially the target consumer, and you had this huge network of people feeding you products and services; your friends at school, their friends, etc.
Remember how when you were young, something would get big at school, then 6 months to a year later, you'd hear all the adults talking about "oh hey have you heard about the new apples ipen?", and you'd just roll your eyes like "gee dad, old news...". That's what it's like now, except I'm the old dad, catching up to trends once they filter through society at large, then the news feeds, etc, instead of being out there in the playground and having this incredibly fast paced knowledge at ground level of what's popular, what works, and what's taking off. Once us adults hear about this shit becoming popular, it's already been popular with all the school kids for a good while, and they already know if something's taken hold or not. I need to find a young kid to pick my stocks...

[Anonymous No.332529]

>bought shares of La-Z-Boy during the depths of the financial crisis for about $0.80
>sold for $2 a few months later
>happy I more than doubled my money
>$25.43 today

also,
>passed on shares of Pier 1 around $0.10 during the crisis
>company almost went bankrupt when it had trouble rolling over its short term debt
>came within a few hours of bankruptcy
>$18.52 today

[Anonymous No.332557]

I invested in netflix, and got about a 10% return because I sold it after it rose 10%. Which is what most people do.

OP obviously doesn't know shit about investing. Very few people buy during the lowest phase of a companies history and then sell it right when it's at it's highest (unless they have inside information). To look at a chart like that and pine over a missed opportunity is as stupid as looking at the winning lotto numbers wistfully and thinking "oh, if only I'd bought a ticket and played those numbers"

[Anonymous No.332561]

>>332510
I actually short sold apple, lol. And I actually made money

[Anonymous No.332579]

>Took a screenshot of Mtgox prices when they were ~$7 to make fun of bitcoin people on /g/ about their crashing coin

I still have it on this PC I believe, I'll have to hunt through thousands of images though

[Anonymous No.332598]

>>331806
>click on almost any stock
>click on view past 5 years
> cry/celebrate

[Anonymous No.332611]

>>332579

Oh god that fucking feeling.

Do you realize if you put just $500 in you would have about $34k right now?

[Anonymous No.332615]

>>332611

I've been following it since it was in the single cents.

[Anonymous No.332638]

I always thought Netflix was kind of a shit product and I still do,

but yes, I wish I would have bought the stock and sucked dick for stock too

[Anonymous No.332667]

Is it too late too buy tesla stock?
it's 190 dollars right now

[Anonymous No.332923]

Neah.

At the time I discovered it, and would have actually invested in it if I had money, I was probably in middle school and had a total of less than $1000. I'd just as well get upset about not investing in microsoft before I was born.

And the recent run up is stupid.

[Anonymous No.332945]

>>332667
One thing to keep an eye on, apparently here in Missouri the state is possibly going to be wrecking their operations in MO before the elections.

[Anonymous No.332960]

>>332598
fukken saved.

[Anonymous No.332992]

>>332667
>buying tesla stock

lol why would you want overvalued segways?

[Anonymous No.333081]

>>332529
>>$25.43 today
how are you still alive?

[Vroom Vroom No.334434]

>>332510
>I also wish I had invested in Take Two Interactive a year or two before GTA V, because that's another problem which had pretty much zero chance of not being successful and not raising the value of its company.

You probably made the right call NOT investing, all it takes is one flop and the company goes under.

Used to work for them, punched out my 401K on my way out. Nota chance in hell I'm leaving it with a video game company.

[Anonymous No.334604]

Speculation is a hell of a drug. The people who get these opportunities invest when everyone thinks it's a dumb idea.

Only opportunity I notice is Zynga. I honestly think Real money mobile gambling will be the next big thing and they have the largest mobile gambling user bases. Unfortunately I didn't invest and wasted all my money on June calls.

[Anonymous No.334610]

>>334604
So what's the status of the calls?

[Anonymous No.334619]

>>334610
I can't bring myself to look at my account value. I put 2000 into 4.50 calls when it looked like the stock was recovering. Only thing that will help me is if the person who bought 200,000+ May calls had insider info. I'm hoping for the company buyback in full to be announced, An RMG announcement, massive game release at E3, or buyout(from ea or disney since they're building an office in Orlando).

Honestly I consider it a loss though. I think those calls were just a huge hedge. .

[Anonymous No.334651]

>>334619
maybe the 200k calls were a margin for his 600k puts?

[Anonymous No.334717]

>>334619
>can't bring myself to look at my account

been there a few times. sometimes I just google the ny fed bond purchase schedule, and remind myself that money isn't real

[Anonymous No.334743]

>>334604
>Zynga
>dying company
>opportunity

[Anonymous No.334827]

I put in 2000$ while ot was at 75, huge gamble but it paid off big time. I also invested in tesla at 16, ane pandora at 7 (sold at 28). Im saying jnvesting in sodastream is a great idea atm.

[Anonymous No.335059]

>>334743

High risk comes with high profit dude

That said zygna has really awful products

[Anonymous No.335177]

>jnvesting in sodastream is a great idea atm.
If they were divesting from occupied territories behind. Now they are a company with a political agenda and at constant risk of political fallout, such as boycotts.

[Anonymous No.335193]

>>332510
>thinking of investing in vidya
>ever
Litterally an industry run by 12 year olds and man children

[Anonymous No.335250]

>>335193
B-b-but the bible says they are next to inherit the earth. Are you really not interested in investing in your family line for the next thousand years when we reset THE GAME?

[Anonymous No.335258]

>>331821
>>331818
It's a joke stating that crying over missed opportunities is not worth it. Learn from it and move on. Read "richest man in babylon" it talks about this.

[Anonymous No.335787]

>>331806
ha i put 4k into tesla motors in late 2012

[Anonymous No.337154]

>>331806
oh wow, 4 time increase in 2 years, how amazing.. You could of made 100x of your investment in bitcoin

[Anonymous No.337178]

>>334604
>ZNGA
>from 5.80 in mid-March to 3.35 today

No. Just no. It's dead money unless someone comes along and buys they whole company or something.

[Anonymous No.337278]

>>334619
>person who bought 200,000+ May calls

Buying 200k short-dated calls? There's like a 75% chance that's insider trading, yeah.

[Anonymous No.338102]

>>331806
> bought netflix at the end of 2012
> knew price would go back up now that they had fixed the service seperation debacle
> mfw sold at 247% gain
2013 was a good year for me

[Anonymous No.338105]

>>332611

[Anonymous No.338309]

>>338102
how much did you invest?profit gained?

[Anonymous No.338615]

>>331812
Who the fuck cares Netflix.
Bitcoin arg bitcoin arg
i bite my ass.

[Anonymous No.339531]

>>331806
>In grad school circa 2009
>NFLX single handedly saved the performance of the student managed mutual fund
>10 fund managers divided up S&P sectors
>Used top down research to select best stock in each sector
>9 out of 10 picks underperformed sector bench mark
>NFLX (either consumer discretionary or tech. I forgot), rallied 200%
>at the end of the year, touted the results of their strategy
>rather than attributing their success to one lucky pick

[Anonymous No.339544]

I'm thinking about buying $1k of BBG.ASX for a short term investment. Im still all new to trading but if it goes up $0.1 I should make $200

[Anonymous No.339554]

>>331806
OP, I've been investing actively since 2011, and somewhat inactively since 2009.

The amount of missed opportunities, some of which were active misses, is astounding.

I sold Ebay at ~38$ after it ran up. It's now at 53.
I sold TSLA at 35$ after it ran up, thinking it was pretty decently overvalued, holy shitballs is it insane now(and I stand by it being overvalued now).
I though about buying BAC at 5$, but missed it until around 8$.
I had no idea what was happening during the financial crash period, when F(ord) was trading for 2$(it's ~15 now), when SIRI(usXM) went all the way to .13$, it's 3.20 now, and I traded in and out of it since 1.30.
I cut out of NOK after the MSFT deal pop to 5.50(I wanted a fucking Lumia multibagger), it steadied out around 8$.
I cut out of UA(Underarmor) at 55$ seeing opportunities I liked more elsewhere. Look where the fuck it is now(A split adjusted 90)

It's 2014. I've been active for ~3 years, and already I've seen my fair share of shit. Hindsight is 20/20, and you just have to move the fuck on.

[Anonymous No.339557]

>>337154
>Bitcoin
>Investment

Pick one. Bitcoin gambling is called speculation, you fucking filthy casual.

[Anonymous No.339727]

OP here.

Everyone, thank you for your input

[Anonymous No.340024]

>>333081
I'm still alive because it was a learning mistake. I still made a couple of $1,000, but could have made $10,000's

At that time, I had a very limited understanding of financial statements. I was using balance sheets to value companies on their liquidation value; rather than the income statement and present value of future earnings. Things were so cheap I was able to buy the stock below my perceived liquidation value. Since most of my financial experience was during crisis years, I lacked the foresight realize La-Z-Boy would continue to operate as a going concern. Once the stock doubled or so and reached a healthy premium over liquidation value, I sold. Now, they have earnings again.

[Anonymous No.340510]

>>332430
>I saw Apple getting big once I noticed the iPod at my school
You really don't have an inkling of how stock prices work do you?

[Anonymous No.340550]

>>339554
I feel you on TSLA. It is amazing how overvalued that company is. The market cap is a third of ford and all I see are ford cars around, I've never even seen a Tesla on the road.

[Anonymous No.340556]

>>340510
>A company's products don't have anything to do with their reputation, repeat customers, or making their brand strong, nor investor confidence.
>Peter Lynch recommends checking out the stocks of the companies that make products you like because he's stupid.

[Anonymous No.340727]

Missed opportunities? Where will you be in 2 years when American Apparel (APP) bounces back. It's in the shitter now, it may have hit bottom but who fucking knows at this point.

I've been looking to invest 1k into something really risky, and I keep coming back to APP

[Anonymous No.340736]

>>340727
>Nearly every one of its stats is negative and in the red.
>Negative return on equity.
>0.07 cash to debt.
>Increasingly bad earnings for the last five years.
>Negative earnings for the last four years.
>Spotty earnings even before that.
>Still overvalued at $0.64.
m8

[Anonymous No.340759]

>>340727
>>340736
You should go on stocktwits and check out Michael Bigger of Bigger Capital. He's been posting some great analysis's of APP and it's gone up quite a lot since he's been investing. Personally I wouldn't invest, but he knows what he's doing and his stuff is definitely worth a read. I see APP making a comeback, not a significant one, but at this price even an increase of $50 mil to market cap would result in an increase of 50% to profits if bought now. Sure it's risky but it seems they'll beat expectations next quarter and they may make a recovery. Look at JC Penny. Everyone thought they were done but they increased their stock price around 40% in a few months because they had a great recovery plan that actually worked. If APP were to get into walmart they'd make a lot of money there as well.Since they're basically in dire straits deals like that may occur which will be immensely profitable.

[Anonymous No.340761]

>>340759
*Analyses. Had a bit to drink, I'm not actually retarded.

[Anonymous No.341067]

>>340736
>>340759
I'm going in this morning. I'm not waiting for a $ 0.10 fluctuation in either direction. I'm in today and we'll see what happens in a year.

[Anonymous No.341670]

>>341067
Good luck

[Anonymous No.341715]

I invest in companies where I love the product. I think Netflix is pretty shit especially compared to HBOgo. Tech circle jerks come and go.

[Anonymous No.341718]

>>340727

>Trying to be profitable using US labor.

[Anonymous No.342905]

>>340550
To be fair, TSLA's business model is somewhat different from Ford's...

But that still doesn't justify the outrageous valuation.

[Anonymous No.342932]

>>341715
nigga is you serious? hbo go may have better content but netflix's UI is leagues above it.

[Anonymous No.342952]

>not investing into YOD
the chinese netflix

yeah nah jk dont ive been bleeding cash ever since

[Anonymous No.342998]

>>341715
Why? I can't for any reason see how HBOGo could possibly be better than Netflix, other than its original programming, which Netflix has been making strides in.

Netflix has that market cornered, HBOGo is a luxury item for most people. I have both, even thos ewho subscribe to HBO, don't use HBOGO, they use Netflix.

[Anonymous No.343002]

>>331806
I invested in netflix.

[Anonymous No.343004]

>>339531
Do you go to McMaster? Their fund has been fucking dogshit and the executives are functional retards.