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OH FUG

CRYPTO IS KILL

>> No.30422895

https://archive.is/oJ16P#selection-6362.1-6368.0

The U.S. Internal Revenue Service (IRS) appears to be stepping up its enforcement capabilities with a new program dedicated to cryptocurrency tax compliance.
With “Operation Hidden Treasure,” the IRS will search for unreported crypto-related income, according to the agency’s Director of the Office of Fraud Enforcement, Damon Rowe.
■Speaking at a Federal Bar Association virtual tax conference, Rowe said cryptocurrency fraud will be a priority. Forbes first reported the news.
■Operation Hidden Treasure, a joint effort between the IRS’s civil office of fraud enforcement and its criminal investigation unit, will train agents to look at blockchains to root out tax evasion among cryptocurrency users. It will exist as part of the office’s emerging threats mitigation team, Forbes said.
■IRS employees are also reportedly training alongside the European Union Agency for Law Enforcement Cooperation (Europol) as part of the initiative.
Carolyn Schenck, national fraud counsel in the IRS Office of Chief Counsel, told conference-goers that the agency is working with private contractors and vendors, presumably blockchain analytics firms, to develop “signatures,” or telltale signs of fraudulent activity.
■These indicators include looking at those who structure transactions just below reporting requirements (like sending a series of $10,000 transactions), using shell corporations to hide funds as well as “getting on and off the chain,” Schenck reportedly said.
■The IRS has sent conflicting messages to U.S. crypto holders several times in the past. Most recently, an updated FAQ page indicated that investors who simply bought “virtual currency with real currency” would not have to report that transaction on this year’s tax returns.
■Still, cashing out crypto or making every-day purchases is typically seen as a taxable event.

>> No.30422908

imagine being an amerishart lmao
OH SAY CAN YOU SHAAART
BY THE MART EARLY LIGHT

>> No.30422911

>>30422816
>tries to arrest millions of people cause they think they own other peoples crypto

IRS, let me be very clear. You own NONE of my crypto, zero. You have no right to a single cent of my crypto. And you never will.

>> No.30422934

>>30422816
>Carolyn Schenck, who is the National Fraud Counsel & Assistance Division Counsel for the Office of Cheif Counsel, IRS, explained that the IRS is working on “how to get ahead of the game,” and looking for various “tax evasion signatures.” Signatures may include “structuring,” which means to literally structure transactions in increments of less than $10,000 to avoid certain reporting requirements, “the use of nominees, shell corps” or “getting on and off the chain.” The IRS is working with sophisticated vendors to identify and investigate these tax evasion signatures. Schenck described Operation Hidden Treasure as “all about finding, tracing, and attributing crypto to U.S. Taxpayers.” The IRS, through its trained agents working together with specialist vendors, is “analyzing blockchain and de-anonymizing [crypto] transactions” to be “able to track, find, and work to seize crypto in “both a civil and a criminal setting.”

>Schenck had a message for crypto traders who are would-be tax evaders: “We see you”.

Kek who believes this shit

>> No.30422936

Assuming this is true
>find out 50 million Americans have nerdcoins
What do they do next? Queue audits for 6 gorillion years?

>> No.30422948

>>30422911
I AM A SOVEREIGN SHITIZEN

>> No.30422960

Operation Hidden Treasure is designed to find, trace, and attribute such transactions to taxpayers, Schenck said.
“These transactions are not anonymous,” she said. “We see you.”

>> No.30423006

>>30422948
No, I’m an average joe with a cold wallet.

>> No.30423030

man it feels good not be an american

>> No.30423142

>>30422911
very interesting. you will have ample opportunity to tell this in detail to Tyrone while he barebacks you in Sing Sing

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>>30422816
>noooo you can't just heckin profit without giving big daddy government some nooo

>> No.30423181

>>30423142
Ahem, nigger

>> No.30423212

>>30422911
This guy cryptos!

>> No.30423224

>>30422936
They start from the top. Biz shouldn't be worried since we buy high and sell low.

>> No.30423238

You glowies have really been stepping up your fud this season.

>> No.30423299

KEK. Europoor here who already pays 38% tax from profits.

>> No.30423446

>>30422934
Google BigQuery

>> No.30423614

>>30423446
is Big Q is the new boomer bait?

>> No.30423666

i think i should shill suterusu in those threads so you dumb bizlets have a chance to hide your gains without having to convert to monero and back

>> No.30423758

>>30422816
pajeets destroyed forever

>> No.30423823

abolish the IRS

>> No.30423831

>>30422895
>■The IRS has sent conflicting messages to U.S. crypto holders several times in the past. Most recently, an updated FAQ page indicated that investors who simply bought “virtual currency with real currency” would not have to report that transaction on this year’s tax returns.
>■Still, cashing out crypto or making every-day purchases is typically seen as a taxable event.

This is a non issue.

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30423852

>Pay your fair share anon. We need that money for niggers, single moms with niglets, spics, & every other group too lazy to work

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>>30422816
It's afraid

>> No.30423950

>americans

kys

>> No.30423962

>>30423852
They are trying to turn us into wagies.
I won't let them.

>> No.30424013

>>30422960
Monero moon incoming. BRB tripling my stack.

>> No.30424249

if you convert eth to monero and then back again the trail goes cold right?

>> No.30424333

>>30422816
You see nothing filthy jews. When you come knocking we will migrate just like your kind did for generations, until we destabilize your filthy banking enslavement system. Die

>> No.30424355

>>30422816
It figures that the year I finally get into crypto is the year the government ruins it. I swear God wants me to stay right where I am forever.

>> No.30424395 [DELETED] 

>>30422895
Do not click this link
Just buy kangal

>$KANGAL

>https://www.dextools.io/app/uniswap/pair-explorer/0x0bc4428491010dfeaa97e48c70bf4940fa783b40

>https://etherscan.io/token/0x6e765d26388a17a6e86c49a8e41df3f58abcd337

>https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/kangal/

>https://www.kangaltoken.com/

>> No.30424397

>>30424333
Beyond based

>> No.30424488
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30424488

I told you cointards to just buy index funds

>> No.30424492

>>30422816
>Living in the US
NGMI

>> No.30424535

>>30422895
>making every-day purchases is typically seen as a taxable event
I buy big gulps, scratch its and marb reds every day.

>> No.30424585

Income tax is unconstitutional though, so what they are saying is threats similar to a sicilian mob.

>> No.30424639

>>30424355
When you buy something does it immediately tank & crab no matter what? I could literally make bitcoin drop to 20k if I were to buy $5 worth right now. I too think God does not want me to make it.

>> No.30424656

>>30424355
>God wants me to stay right where I am forever
Don't question God's judgement. You know what you did.

>> No.30424710

If you're making serious gains/income trading crypto you should have hired a tax accountant years ago. If you're new and doing well, prioritize that. It will save you money in the long term, especially if they work for a firm with a good enough reputation that the IRS will just rubberstamp anything coming from it.

>> No.30424801

>>30422816
Just buy Monero, faggot

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>>30422816
Jokes on them all I do is lose money on crypto.

>> No.30424890

>>30424535
You're taxing your body fren

>> No.30424992

>>30424639

This only happens when I buy a reputable coin with a solid dev team and an excellent use case. But when I buy retarded meme tokens with dogs on them that don't do anything they always do a 5-30x.

>> No.30425117

The irs operates like the mafia kek. Can we say we feel in fear of our life and get out of this

>> No.30425194
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>(((IRS))) INITIATES 'OPERATION HIDDEN TREASURE' TO ROOT OUT UNREPORTED CRYPTO INCOME

>> No.30425200

>>30424992
I don't have the balls to throw money at memecoins. My biggest regret is not buying rubic on day 1 but then again if I had bought it it never would have hit .40.

>> No.30425213

Seriously though, how the fuck did we get to this point, burgers?

Our forefathers went to war with the most powerful country on earth at the time over taxes on fucking TEA.

IRS taxfags get the rope in minecraft

>> No.30425271

>>30422816
Bring it on IRniggerS.

>> No.30425279

>>30425213
>Our forefathers went to war with the most powerful country on earth at the time over taxes on fucking TEA.
A 1% tax, no less.

>> No.30425289

>>30425213
we are all too fat and comfy to do anything about it now

>> No.30425304

MONERO BAYBEE!

>> No.30425314

>>30422936
I got a tax bill this year for underpaying my state taxes in 2014 by $280. Fees + interest was like $80. That was a super obvious mistake on my part. Now imagine them trying to do this for crypto.

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30425320

>load ze tax fud

>> No.30425343

>>30422816
soon, the IRS will come after you for taxes on "capital gains profits" if you only use one square of toilet paper to wipe your ass instead of two.

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30425353

>wahhhhh I cant commit massive tax fraud without consequences!

BTC to Zero. When it comes out, $0. Get real jobs. Make an actual contribution to humanity.

Seethe, and sneed.

>> No.30425371

>>30422816
You guys still bearish about XMR?
I wouldn't be now.

>> No.30425384

>>30424710
How to do this. I live in a nigger state

>> No.30425399

>>30423299
Jesus christ bro why even try?

>> No.30425401

>>30425353
Nobody is afraid of this lol.

>> No.30425427

>>30422816
>crypto is kill
This fuds been around for years who do you think youre scaring?

>> No.30425498

>>30422816
>still hasn't made clear guidelines in defi situations
>goes back on forth on other rules
>has no fucking clue what half the tokens do
>if blockchain wasn't a public, immutable ledger they could easily search they would cried and tried to outright ban it already
>we see you though, better pay up

>> No.30425520

>>30422816
Also
>secret operation
>announces it publically
Sounds like they have no idea how to catch the wealthier ones and are hoping people come forward to reveal their crypto. I don't even own crypto but quite unsurprising how hard they're coming down on it.

>> No.30425537

>>30422816
Americans can't even leave the country to get away from the tentacles. Really happy to be a Bong sometimes. No taxes at all because I live abroad.

>> No.30425554

>>30425353
Jewish hands wrote this post.

>> No.30425615

>>30425314
I hate that. I dont see them paying a penalty to me at tax time when they give me back money. Unironically going to have a penalty this tax season due to not knowing about quarterly taxes.

>> No.30425844

All US brokerages are cooperating. If you have a brokerage account and you've used to for transfers, all your off exchange wallets are known and linked to you by the IRS.

>> No.30425909

>>30422936
>What do they do next?
Hire an army of brown people to track down white peoples investments

>> No.30425933
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>>30425213
>There is a great danger for the United State of America. This great danger is the Jew. Gentlemen, in every land the Jews have settled, they have depressed the moral level and lowered the degree of commercial honesty. They have remained apart and unassimilated; oppressed, they attempt to strangle the nation financially, as in the case of Portugal and Spain.

>For more than seventeen hundred years they have lamented their sorrowful fate — namely, that they have been driven out of their mother land; but, gentlemen, if the civilized world today should give them back Palestine and their property, they would immediately find pressing reason for not returning there. Why? Because they are vampires and vampires cannot live on other vampires --they cannot live among themselves. They must live among Christians and others who do not belong to their race.

>If they are not expelled from the United States by the Constitution within less than one hundred years, they will stream into this country in such numbers that they will rule and destroy us and change our form of Government for which we Americans shed our blood and sacrificed our life, property and personal freedom. If the Jews are not excluded within two hundred years, our children will be working in the field to feed Jews while they remain in the counting houses, gleefully rubbing their hands.

>I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jews forever, your children and your children’s children will curse you in their graves. Their ideas are not those of Americans, even when they lived among us for ten generations. The leopard cannot change his spots. The Jews are a danger to this land, and if they are allowed to enter, they will imperil our institutions. They should be excluded by the Constitution.

>> No.30425973

>>30422816
Basically just empty threats. It's almost trivially easy to anonymize bitcoin transactions, and everyone else just uses Monero. Black-hats make millions off anonymous crypto transactions. Feds haven't been able to do fucking anything with it. Even if they seize their bitcoin wallets, they can't touch any of it because it's encrypted.

The only thing the feds can hope to do is scare enough people into complying or just take as much crypto out of circulation as they can.

>> No.30425992

>>30422934

>a woman is leading the charge

Whew, it's nothing boys, we won

>> No.30426051

it takes a special kind of retard to think that PUBLIC LEDGERS are anonymous

>> No.30426085

>>30424488
Nothing wrong with index funds tho. Everyone should have some shares in them as well as crypto

Diversify

>> No.30426103

>>30423852
No they need it to bailout GM when people decide not to buy their shitty crossovers anymore

>> No.30426105

At least crypto to crypto taxes shouldn't exist

>> No.30426113

>>30422934

>Schenk and Schenck are common Jewish (Ashkenazic), German, and Dutch occupational surnames derived from schenken (to pour out or serve) and referring to the medieval profession of cup-bearer or wine server (later also to tavern keeper).

Can't make this shit up kek

>> No.30426145

>>30422816
>seize crypto

Feds can't even seize pirate bay servers. Does anyone actually think they can track down bits of data that can be shifted around in botnet wallets in a second?

>> No.30426167

>>30423666
Checked, go on anon

>> No.30426865

You will be caught. You will owe tax and significant penalties.

>> No.30426931

>>30422816
This is inherently racist against bipoc

>> No.30426990

>>30422816
>He hasn't been paying his taxes
Gotta pay the bank to play the game retard, enjoy prison

>> No.30427297

>>30422816
you say
>taxes
I say
>deductible

>> No.30427415

>>30423831
Seconded. This reads like targeting of hedgies thinking they can use crypto to evade taxes, not link marines who threw their shit on a hardware wallet and still haven't sold a dime.
If you're going to cash from crypto, something you should only be doing if you really have to, you should be reporting that.
If your hodling your linkies for future staking this is a non issue.
With that said, fuck the IRS.

>> No.30427432

>>30423823
4th amendment is dead and buried. I hope they have fun and don't get shot harassing everyone who bought a little bitcoin in 2014

>>30423962

>> No.30427522

>>30422816
>bitcoin cutting edge savvy cyperpunk money
>untraceable no governments no laws anarchy
>HELP IRS I NEED TAX LAYWER
>cash chads still out there swinging bags

wow what a shit investment for dorks enjoy filing papers or go to jail lmao

>> No.30427545

>>30426145
Pirates are resilient because they aren't out to make money, they are literally only transferring bits around. Feds don't need to seize anything, they just need to identify you and tell you need to pay $X or face consequences.

>> No.30427552

>>30423142
Every time americans mention prison, they think of the gay sex house. They think of the gay nigger sex house. What is wrong with you mutts?

>> No.30427574

Are the people in this thread just never going to cash out?
Or are you going to meet face to face with hundreds of strangers over time to sell for your living expenses?

>> No.30427616

>>30427522
>untraceable

You're too dumb for this site

>> No.30427642

Yall ain't getting shit.

You're gonna have to kick this fucking FIAT ponzi scheme into overdrive to pay off your shekels to the fed you IRSniggers.

>> No.30427665

>>30427522
>what a shit investment
yeah my initial investment is only up 17000%

>> No.30427672

>>30427552
DESU american prisons are basically slavery 2.0 for niggers. If you're yoropean then it is unfathomable

>> No.30427682

>>30426145
Pretty much what >>30427545 said. An untraceable coin means shit. All they need to do is track you down and no amount of money will buy back the tens of years you'll lose behind bars.

>> No.30427794

>>30427672
Maybe they should stop committing crime so much

>> No.30427800

>>30427552
cuz it's true. as a man, you have a better chance of getting raped in prison than anywhere else

>> No.30427818

>>30425933
checked is this real?

>> No.30427990

>>30427545
My point is that anonymizing the transactions prevents getting recognized by the feds. They can't shut anything down if they don't know who you are. Feds and corps have been trying to shut down botnets for years and it's been pretty much a failure. A few people have been arrested, but billions are still sloshing around. The feds can't figure out who these people are.

>> No.30428106

>>30422816
They want to fuck over little investors, but they still don't wanna touch e-thots income. Again, why burgers haven't gas the kikes get?

>> No.30428284

>>30427794
Yeah but white people should not be going into such hellholes even if they do commit crime

>> No.30428291

Shit, I bought $50 in eth for gas fees and sent it directly to my metmask from goybase and it has the 400 Uni on it and other shitcoins
I guess they see me now too
Maybe I can tell them i was paying a friend money I owed or something IDK
Fuck why did I do that

>> No.30428309

>>30427794
Prison shouldn’t be as bad as it is desu

>> No.30428330

>>30424013
>Monero
this, I tubmled all my bitcoin long ago and keep everything in a non-active wallet and stack monero from offshore exchanges. good luck unraveling that

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>>30428330
>tfw the coin tumbler was setup and run by NSA

>> No.30428587

>>30427990
where can i read more about said botnets used to anonymize transactions good sir?

>> No.30428608

>>30427990
Stop spreading factually incorrect information. Bitcoin is a public ledger. Every transaction that has ever happened is recorded in it and can be seen. All you can do is obfuscate things to make finding you hard, not impossible. If your coins ever touch a mixing service, expect to be placed under heavy suspicion.

It's not anonymous, it's pseudonymous. All they have is your address. There is a direct link between your address and your identity in any KYC exchange out there. Nobody is living the cryptopunk dream of P2P local exchange from fiat to crypto.

Also, bit coin is not fungible. If your coin was ever used in illegal activities, it can be identified and be marked and you will end up getting tainted coins. Even if you don't go to jail, you stand to lose those funds.

>> No.30428703

>>30425353
The international financial system is not contributing to humanitt. It is killing the human spirit and destroying the planet.

>> No.30428708

>>30428284
Cry about that while you get raped by bubba

>> No.30428746

>>30422816

OBEY THE JEWS, SLAVE
OBEY THE JEWS, SLAVE
OBEY THE JEWS, SLAVE
OBEY THE JEWS, SLAVE
OBEY THE JEWS, SLAVE
OBEY THE JEWS, SLAVE

>> No.30428772

>>30425353
social contract has been broken kike
real jobs and contributions to society do not matter anymore
ywnbaw

>> No.30428789

>supposedly doesnt have the budget to audit any billionaires properly
>totally fine with tax haven countries like the caymen islands and shit
>but totally has time and energy and resources to come after steve dickerson who sold $500 of bitcoin and didnt report it
OHHHH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEE

>> No.30428913

>>30422816
Not a cucked amerifat, don’t care

>> No.30428924

>>30424585
it reads as an intelligence report on enemy movements in the field

>> No.30428967

>>30426085
i took 24k which is a low % of my total savings, spit them is 12k to stocks /12k to crypto. 12k split into 10 different funds and etf's. 12k on 60%BTC/40%ETH, split those up into blockfi/nexo/cel for dem interest. am i austict?

>> No.30429023

Wait until FinCEN arrests the creators of a dex for failing to adhere to anti money laundering laws.

>> No.30429069

>>30422816
Operation Hidden Treasure who the fuck comes up with this shit?

>> No.30429076

>>30428789

bc steve dickerson doesnt have the resources to properly fight them

they go after 50000 steve dickersons and win with little to no resources (just ethscan/bscan cross reference coinbase 1099s)

vs go after 1 ELON musk / DONALD trump who have better and more efficient resouces

>> No.30429161

>>30422816
Monerochads, I kneel

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>>30428608

>> No.30429272
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>>30422816
>We see you

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We need to develop new crypto that can be traded and sold easily to the masses without the help of a centralized exchange that can be easily monitored by authorities.

>> No.30429487

>>30427552
cuz that's what prison is here

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You mad, Irs?

>> No.30429722

>>30423142
mutt's law

>> No.30429737

Fuck the IRS. They are parasites. The government already taxes my pay so they can give niggers free internet, food, and housing. I’m the one that takes the risk to invest my money instead of buying weed and rims.

>> No.30429794

>>30429231
OK dumbass. BTw monero solves most of those problems. The only reason bitcoin is so popular is it was the first coin.

>> No.30429806

>>30428608
Black hats don't use bitcoin, retard. Or, if they do, it's because they anonymize them (which can and does get obfuscated over TOR networks and botnets). Black hats use Monero, which doesn't have a public ledger and the transactions are actually anonymous.

>nobody is living the dream of p2p local exchange.

People literally are. Eastern European botnets make millions of dollars a year off scams and malware like wannacry. Most of these people are already in high paying jobs like sysadmin positions, so it's trivial to launder money with things like decentralized TOR exchanges and ATM's. You pretend like it's impossible when millions and millions of dollars are made across the black market every year.

>> No.30429861

The only way to escape the wrath of the tyrannical American government will be to do business with the chinks. SAVE US CZ!

>> No.30429909

>>30422816
Yep. I guess that headline just killed all the programmers and unmade the science and technology. The media is strong and words hurt. Just sold 100k.

>> No.30429965

>>30429737
>The government already taxes my pay so they can give niggers free internet
You're just as much of a sucker as the drooling leftists.
All that cash goes towards buying Israel missile systems.

>> No.30430137

>>30428309
White collar prison isn't a rape fest. There are far fewer niggers.

>> No.30430414

Just traded all my LINK for XMR

>> No.30430676

>>30429076
>What is class action
I guarantee you no-one is letting the gubment take money from them.

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>>30424333
based trips as usual.

>> No.30430903

>>30425520
They're like niggers, the answers are all in front of them but they don't know how to read

>> No.30430990

>>30423880

>> No.30431352

>>30424832
you still have to file losses

>> No.30431437

>>30422816
hire an accountant and pay your extortion fees retards
>>30424832
max 6k deductible in losses I think

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>>30422816
It's a losing battle in the end

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>>30425520
>I don't even own crypto but quite unsurprising how hard they're coming down on it.
They cant really. They dont have the resources to track wallets, especially if exchanges pool user coins in a hot wallet. They cant legally prove a metamask wallet is correlated with a coinbase SSN user. There isnt much they can do. They barely even audited non crypto people. Theyre really just hoping to scare people into reporting it themselves. But just report any cash that enters your bank account and you are good to go.

>> No.30432090

>>30428309
It should be worse than death so people stop criming so much

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>>30431437
>hire an accountant and pay your extortion fees retards

>> No.30432191

>>30423880
monero is the future of tax evasion

I for one, welcome our new tax evasion overlords

Why didn't they just call monero Tax Evasion Coin??

>> No.30432594

>>30422908
HAHAHA read the fucking article it’s the EU as well. Nice comprehension bong you really put the NIG in Nigel, Nigel.

>> No.30432636

Shittugal is going to start taxing crypto now. RIP fucking RIP I hate this fucking country for poor people so much.

>> No.30432783

>>30431352
Which you’ll get tax credit for. IM SURE THE IRS IS IN A HURRY TO GIVE YOU TAX CREDITS

FUCKING RETARD

>> No.30432864

>>30427818
No people who post fake shit like that do the founders disservice everyone who matters knows kikes are a threat and adversary to us but thats one issue they werent aware of. If people posted real shit the founders said itd lead people to come to the same conclusions most of us here have reached.

>> No.30432882

>>30422816
Haha, mutts, you gotta pay up the kikes to bomb some sandniggers for Israel.

>> No.30432912

>>30432636
>poortugal

Lmao its insane to think your shitty country was once a world power eith a ton of colonies and now we have portuguese (brazil) in language menus

>> No.30432966
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30432966

>>30429076
>bc steve dickerson doesnt have the resources to properly fight them
oh really

>> No.30432975

>>30422816
well uhh thats just like your opinion man, I use tor virtual machines, proxies the whole nine yards. good luck finding me.

>> No.30433044

>>30425279
Muh second amendment

>> No.30433171

>>30422816
Imagine being a mutt
I hope the rest of the world knows they can use the US as a safe haven.

FATCA (the mutt CRS) doesn't report to other countries. CRS reports. Let the mutts get fucked it's what they deserve.

Look up FATCA & CRS I'd you're too fuckin dumb to know what they are.

>> No.30433271

>>30422816
So they have to track millions of IPs and tie them to billions of wallets, and then trace back gorillions of transactions altogether.

Is the IRS even capable of it?

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>>30422816
OHH FUCK THERES A BOAT ACCIDENT!
i have to go

>> No.30433384

>>30433271
It's already happening as we speak, the question is whether IRJews have an access to it.

>> No.30433514

>>30432594
The UK isnt in the EU.
The UK is a tax haven, but you don't even understand how most likely.

I'll give you a hint it's NOT through bank secrecy

>> No.30433622

>>30433271
Doubtful, but then again they are going for the big whales. That guy with $1000 profits isnt cost effective to go after.

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>>30422816
Unironically the signal for the grand XMR bull stampede

>> No.30433841

>>30433622
Implying automated Chainalysis tools won't be able to do it in 3 or 4 years.

Even the small fish are going to be fucked then. The most people's trails are conterminated trough and trough with KYC exchange wallets.

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Shit like this is why Monero is destined for glory.

>> No.30433991

>>30433271
>Is the IRS even capable of it?
YES, check 'the grace commission' find out why tax is collected. If you know that money is not simply printed, you'll know why they'll chase. Mutts have this coming, renounce if you want freedom

>> No.30434325

>>30432912
Bro you think I don't wish Brazil was an actual good country so I could move my shit there? I would do it.

>> No.30434385

If the whales weren't so self-centered, they would already have devised a plan to invade Somalia, and install the first crypto state there. They can pay mercenaries and then import infra-structure.

>> No.30434397

>>30432636
>Shittugal is going to start taxing crypto now.
Sauce?

>> No.30434414

Good thing I’m all in XMR and they can’t see shit

>> No.30434458

>>30422895
So, the IRS doesn’t know wtf it’s doing but expects everyone else to read their mind or throw them in jail?

>>30424585
>US government is equal to the mob
It feels really bad to be an American these days desu. It’s like being a frog boiling in water except knowing that you are dying.

>> No.30434549

>>30434325
Yeah I know what you mean
South america in general could've been good
Maybe its still too early, after all they were colonized and only started real development in relatively little time
Not enough to be developed and not shithole enough that you can love the SEA white god life fucking endless asian pussy

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30434554

Wow dude that’s fucking rad I do not give a shit

>> No.30434609

>>30422895
>simply bought “virtual currency with real currency”
What is meant by real currency here? Gold, or Bitcoin?

>> No.30434841

>>30427552
I know a guy who had spent 15 years of his life in and out of US prisons, longest stretch being 6 years for Arson. We also live in a more “civilized” (wealthy) state, if that means much. According to him It’s genuinely a thing in US prisons. Usually consensual gay sex, but not always consensual. And it’s not typical that people just try and take your anus because you showed up with fat booty cheeks, they’ll try and butter you up first.

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>>30425498
This

>> No.30435025

>>30427552
>he doesn’t know about the booty warriors
You are about to be enlightened, anon.

https://youtu.be/n9WClv4U5B8

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30435066

>>30433991
What the fuck. So basically all paying them does is light your money on fire and slow down the velocity of the system so they can get away with inflation for even longer.

>> No.30435174

>>30423142
You'd get out in white collar prison you dirty nigger rape fetishist

>> No.30435272

>>30435066
This is what happens when you have too many billionaires not paying what they owe.

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>>30435066
That pic.

>> No.30435432

>>30433171
KEK I'VE SEEN THIS
ACTUAL CRIMINALS USING THE US AS A SAFE HEAVEN FOR THEIR OWN COUNTRIES

LMFAO IMAGINE BEING THIS KEKED

>> No.30435494

>>30433350
What happened in that boat lol

>> No.30435541

>>30435066
Yep, if you've only just found this out it gets SO much worse.

The only hope mutts have is to renounce.

I prodly turned down the mutt passport. The fucking Iranian passport is better for fuck sake

>> No.30435588

>>30433624
Whales get monerochan as a sex slace? I jelly

>> No.30435653

>>30435432
It's crazy how fucked the mutts are!
It's even crazier that they're so fucking washed they don't even know how fucked they are

>> No.30435708

>>30435066
America was a mistake.

>> No.30435823
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Wasting all that time and resources trying to extort fiat currency from people that won't even be worth the paper it's printed on.

They should just quit their miserable parasitic jobs and buy crypto. Salty boomer no-coiners in denial about the collapse happening all around them.

When the hyperinflation hits their life savings won't buy them a stick of gum.

>> No.30435833

>>30427818
yes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Prophecy

>> No.30435849

>>30422816
>hidden treasure
In case you needed any reminder that these fucking scumbags see your money as nothing more than a purse for them to pilfer.
>>30435066
Yes that's right. They give all your money for gibs, then they take debt against themselves to pay for the rest, then they service that debt by paying themselves interest.

>> No.30435911

>selling
NGMI

>> No.30436007

>>30422816
I hate Burgerland so fucking much. Monero is the only possible future for cryptocurrency here

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OH MY FUCKING GOD

>> No.30436518

The taste of freedom

>> No.30436545
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Why do they think they're so entitled to my belongings?
Where were you when I was barely making enough to get by and putting a few hundred into crypto here and there?
Where were you when I was making those high risk decisions that often blew up in my face?
Where were you when the only thing that kept me from selling it all and walking away was a bunch of pink colored memes on an anime forum?

I'm incel you should be paying me to not shoot up a mall or something, not coming after my hard work.

>> No.30436633

>>30436545
This. They're trying to kill the tickets out of poverty

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>>30435849

I like how they refer to crypto as "treasure"

Glowing stooges are admitting that fiat is fake money and crypto is "treasure" kek

>> No.30436710

>>30422816
>Tax the rich, they said

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30436749

Buy silver

>> No.30436797

>>30432191
>>30423880
I get how monero hides identities in a transaction, but eventually I want to convert that monero to real fiat.
wouldn't I have to do that through an institution?

>> No.30436838

So they basically admit its a currency but want to tax your currency. Sounds insanely illegitimate.

It's probably more profitable for your every day citizen to hurt the IRS over this.

>> No.30436848

>>30436545
>Why do they think they're so entitled to my belongings?
they they read about nazis cutting open the linings of clothing of jews in ghettos in search of gold they get hard ons

>> No.30436850

LMAO at all these IRS faggots cope posting ITT

>> No.30436938

>>30427818

Very real, I'm surprised you're unfamiliar

>> No.30437059

>>30436007
Ghost is looking pretty good right now NGL. The basket of charges they threw at JM is proof they are scared

>> No.30437210

>>30425933
>in my country there is problem

>> No.30437213

>>30436749

JP Morgan owns 99% of the silver in the world. They manipulate the market to fuck over normies.

>> No.30437414

>>30423880
this
>>30436797
the more it's adopted, the less you'll need to convert it to real flat
Monero is *really* good as a currency

>> No.30437418

Love how they have a task for dedicated to finding crypto holders, but still can't give any guidance about how crypto tax actual should be done, other than its "property."

>> No.30437423

>>30437213
>paper silver

>> No.30437424

I don't understand if it isn't american currency how can they tax it unless you cash out to american bank?

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>>30436797
>I get how monero hides identities in a transaction, but eventually I want to convert that monero to real fiat.
>wouldn't I have to do that through an institution?

BTC<->XMR atomic swaps are nearly here so you'll be able to jump out of Monero into Bitcoin in smaller increments at your discretion.

>> No.30437456

>>30423142
American.

>> No.30437490

>>30422911

lol got guns? they got lots of em, big ones too, good luck tough guy

>> No.30437502

>>30436797
you could, per se:
send monero to a no kyc chinese exchange and convert it to something like algorand or whatever. Then obfuscate however you think is best suited for your application. then send to CB or Kraken or whatever and then exit to fiat in structured tx so you are below the threshold where you are likely to get audited.
or you could find a cash buyer and either sell wallet credentials or do a straight transaction in person if you have time to wait for confirmations

>> No.30437504

>>30437213
PM tard detected
Even the silver miners are shorting the market...if you don't understand why then you don't understand the core of the FX market

>> No.30437520

>>30437490
They can kill him, but they will need get his seed phrase.

>> No.30437535

>>30422816
Lmao what a bunch of greedy fuckers. Jew scum

>> No.30437575

>>30437424
This statement shows a lack of understanding.
It's peak mutt

>> No.30437602

>>30437490
they also have families that they don't want going hungry after said fed gets made good in an inconsequential raid that turned deadly

>> No.30437614

>>30434458
>So, the IRS doesn’t know wtf it’s doing but expects everyone else to read their mind or throw them in jail?
100% how it is. They are the incompetent ones and YOU pay for their incompetency. Land of the fucking free. I respect drug lords more than the IRS

>> No.30437695

>>30431437
>>max 6k deductible in losses I think
3k, anything extra you can carry over to the next years

>> No.30437708

>>30437614
This is why when they come for you, you make it so they are too scared to go after the next guy

>> No.30437812

>>30422816
They are gonna see all the rugs anons been through

>> No.30437865

>>30437575
I really dont understand. I come here in search of better life and now they want to take my vestment? IRS racist against minoriy. IRS = Racist

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>>30437708

Hypothetically speaking, if you don't have a phone and you don't have a mailing address - how does the IRS contact you?

>> No.30437880

>>30428330
how do you cash out lol.

>> No.30437883

I made like 1000 maybe last year off crypto and reporting each transaction is more effort than I'm willing to put in for something that would be refunded anyway.

>> No.30437916

>>30433514
OI YOU GOT A LOICENSE FER THAT POST?

Also post tax rates after Achmed finishes in you.

>> No.30437939

>>30437865
Mutts only hope is to renounce. Try to avoid US indicia after also

>> No.30437950

>>30437490
You haven't been paying attention to the social climate in America, have you? Even normies are turning against their own political parties over the handling of the virus. A year of politicians and Hollywood showing off their private estates and stuffed $10k fridges and freezers built a divide that will never heal.

Now deny those people assistance during the largest pandemic in the modern age. Evict them. Make them jobless. Now tell them that store of savings they had belongs to the IRS.

It's not going to turn out the way you're thinking it will, Americans are already at the snapping point.

>> No.30437968

>>30437939
All I have is losses. But actually, if I cash out and renounce my US citizenship, can't I just leave?

>> No.30437991

>>30437916
Kek stay dumb mutt, you could ask questions but you revert you your muttness.
Stay dumb retard

>> No.30438003

i fucking hate this clown ass world.

>> No.30438053

>>30437880
Literally dozens of ways. You'd have an easier time selling your crypto than a car or a house. It's more widely accepted than most national currencies.

>> No.30438138

>>30437968
You have to renounce, burgers have to report taxes from anywhere in the world! It's only 1 of 2 countries like it.

Also shit like below
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/31/515.329

>> No.30438158

>>30437872
they kick your door down, tase you, tie you to a chair, and stab you a bunch of times

>> No.30438190

>>30438138
But can't I just like pay my taxes after I cash out? Isn't that the whole thing? Like how can they tax me if I haven't even made any money?

>> No.30438280

>>30437968

Probably would want to have your new citizenship set up first but yes. Especially protected by extradition laws.

Even if they try coming after you, beyond that- you can always buy a legal death certificate on the black market in Manilla or other countries.

>> No.30438344

>>30438190
You can wait but over 2mill has different restrictions. No matter what it will cost 2.5k to renounce.

Never forget the mutts are so brainwashed these laws can be changed quickly with the full support the the mutt masses.

>> No.30438378

>>30423030
You have no idea. I can never understand the gorilla mutt neanderthals that are proud to be trapped in this shit hole.

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>>30438158

That's fine, they still won't get my crypto keys because I forgot 'em

I'll make sure to shit myself before I die so they have to smell my shit and clean it up.

>> No.30438420

>>30438344
Okay word. Unluckily enough I have thus far only lost a grand.

>> No.30438469

>>30438378
its the lack of free and excess of dumb that makes america the perfect cattle farm

>> No.30438482

>>30422816
>>30422895
>>30422911
>>30422934
>>30422936
the uss zumwalt thank you for your donation

>> No.30438490

>>30438378
Imagine the utter level of retardation this anon has if he lives in the Western world thinking they aren't gonna come for his crypto gains.

>> No.30438499

>>30438053
so name some man. Lets say Ive been buying crypto on coinbase and sending to my meta mask, trading and one day I make 6 figures or more. Then what? wont they know? if i try to cash out not through coinbase, wouldnt whoever I cash out with report to IRS? If I get the money as cash how can I deposit it to my bank account without the bank freezing my account until I prove where it came from or declare it (opening myself to taxation) since it doesnt match my reported income? So many problems that I cannot see a solution for. Even if I do get the wealth how can I spend it? If I go buy a house or car the IRS will definitely know, and they will ask how I got the money for that when officially Im unemployed and have no income.

>> No.30438543

>>30438420
If you're new just buy & hold BTC.
Inb4
Muh Maxie

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problemas?

>> No.30438627

>>30436545
>I'm incel you should be paying me to not shoot up a mall or something

Fucking based

>> No.30438631

>>30438499
they know, they work with chainalysis to follow onchain big fishes tx

>> No.30438722

>>30438499

My friend is a millionaire and has over a million in crypto.

I'd sell him my holdings at a 1% discount to sweeten the deal. Even though he's my bro and would probably give me market price.

Done in not even 10 minutes.

>> No.30438773

>>30422816
Glad im not a burger

>> No.30438803

>>30422816
good thing I'm down 3x

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>>30422816
reminder that it's a hell of a lot easier for the IRS to issue statements like this in an attempt to scare people into compliance than it is to actually go through, identify and track down targets, build cases, and take people to court over this shit.

>> No.30438876

>>30438803
I do nothing but lose as well.

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>>30438828
If they want to go after me fucking up on my metric ton of losses to eventually get >500 dollars out of me, then go ahead.

>> No.30438948

>>30436797
Crypto->monero->"lost it"->BTC -> physical silver ->boomers on Craigslist->fiat

>> No.30438981

You know, I'd like to take a vacation to the British virgin islands or Dubai or the Seychelles and maybe find my way into the offices of SFM Corporate Services. I hear they have friendly staff and a fantastic and impressive snack bar. They can help even the most privacy conscious of investors... I do so love vacations, one time I might take one and just never come back...

>> No.30439055

>>30438948
>Thinks he lives in Ireland
You don't live in a free country mutt

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>>30438499

Also it makes no sense to sell everything when crypto's still in its infancy andvthe dollars on the verge of collapse. You'd be suicidally depressed when the next halvening hits.

Let me put it this way, if YOU ever get shake hands and decided to sell your crypto. I'd happily buy it from you either at a discount or you just give me the entire wallet and keys at market price so I can use that extra layer of anonymity

>> No.30439089

>>30438482
fuck you useless piece of shit
i hope some somalis blow a hole in the side of your well deck like uss cole

>> No.30439117

Anyone here ever heard of dust? that's the only thing that worries me.

>> No.30439129

>>30439055
You wish you had the social skills I do. I can make anybody like me. I can charm them and be genuine and become their friend. Why? Because that's how you make friends, you be genuine and you fuck up and if the friendship is worth it you become friends after. I was at the gym and this guy came and tried to take equipment from my friend and I screamed at him and called him a faggot and we started yelling at each other saying we were going to fight each other. Later I went up and apologized, shook his hand and we are friends to this day.

I had a court deposition last week regarding a multi million dollar lawsuit and the defense attorney for the other side fell into my charm and it was obvious. My own attorney told me during the break "dude even the defense attorney likes you, they're so fucked" because a large part of winning these cases is likeability.

Drama has a function. Human emotion has a function. Peace treaties and oaths have a function. Don't be autistic, learn to recognize it for the ridiculous shit that it is and use it. Even laugh at it sometimes. Even the drama and shows like jersey shore has a purpose. Don't deny your humanity.

>> No.30439141

>>30422911
I'm thinking based.

>> No.30439187

>>30438722
that doesnt solve the problem.

1. I have no such friend
2. such a sale would still show up on his taxes and by extension the IRS would know where it came from
3. if your friend doesnt report it then you still have to somehow use that cash, you cant deposit to your bank account or the bank will report it. You cant buy expensive shit like a house or car or that will be reported

>> No.30439222

>>30433514
>I'll give you a hint it's NOT through bank secrecy
another hint please. I'm intrigued.

>> No.30439283

>>30438948
as long as the 'lost it' part is set up well this works. also feds lurk craigslist.

>> No.30439290

>>30438190
That’s how it always was until faggots passed the “tax cut” bill, which contained a special note about crypto being classified as an asset. It went into effect 2018. So anytime after that when you trade tokens they consider it like selling a house. They are using retarded terms as if it’s a currency then try to tax you on it like selling houses. It’s the most incompetent system they could have ever come up with and should be seriously amended, along with the niggers at the SEC being involved at all. These two organizations have done serious harm to Americans and it’s future. Consider leaving.

>> No.30439294

>>30439075
Whether I cash all or some out, having 6 figures or more in eth or btc will still open me to tax liability if I didnt pay it. If I want to cash out 6 figures and its only part of my crypto holdings, I still have the same issue of it being noticed by the IRS.

>> No.30439321

>IRS wants part of my gains but doesn't pay me to soften my losses

How about no

>> No.30439327

>>30439129
Sounds like a civil suit
Best of luck dealing with the US gov.

Stay if you want, hope you can get my jelly from the commissary

>> No.30439358

>>30439283
Good they can pay my cell phone bill when I sell them a couple OZ

>> No.30439375

Soon, there will be secret crypto societies irl, where people can trade without the long dick of the authorities to fuck em.

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pay your taxes guys, its the right thing to do, it keeps the country running. Our schools and infrastructure are pathetic because we do not invest in the proper operation of our government. All I see are young misguided men, drinking down the Malthusian messages pushed by partisan psychopaths and grifters. This cannot go on.

>> No.30439443

If I put in 10k of my own money and pull out 20k, do I have to report and get taxed on 10k or 20k? It’s my money initially, I only made 10k so I’d only report that, right?

>> No.30439446

>>30439222
Trusts

Check out all the UK overseas jurisdictions.

>> No.30439453 [DELETED] 

>>30422816
If there are any Christian brothers here I’m in a bad place in my life and in dire straights if anyone can help me you will be saving my life, hopefully someone sees this will know my struggle is very real, thank you brothers and sisters and God bless you all.

bc1qs5egwp7nan3haps05243y4ns76x2rfhh370ndz

And I’m sorry I just don’t know where to turn anymore and you do seem like good people.

>> No.30439486

>>30423852
>every other group too lazy to work
Mostly banker kikes.

>> No.30439522

>>30439453
I won't donate, but I'll report it.

>> No.30439549

>>30436797
You could buy drugs. There are clearnet sites that still accept Monero. Works better than that dysfunctional shitcoin BTC.

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>>30437991
I said post rates. But you won’t. Cap gains actually worse in UK, and way more culturally cuckolded. Sounds like a great time. Pic related is Brutus “food”

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>>30422816
>incompetant faggots pretending they doing anything

>> No.30439651

>>30423852
Yeah man, less than 1% of your taxes. Get who's getting bailed out while everything turns to shit.

>> No.30439662

>>30439222
Look up 'britans second empire' on YouTube
It's a great info

>> No.30439732

>>30439443
Depends when you sell it. If you sell it under a year then it’s counted as income tax. Over a year it’s capital gains. If it’s under a year, then every new slot machine you put your token into you have to consider what you might make that year, for every trade or as they consider it, a “purchase.”

>> No.30439738

>>30439570
Stay dumb
I pay WAY less tax In the UK
Have you ever left your state?

>> No.30439834

>>30435272
No, this is always what happens in all of history when government gets too big. Taxing billionaires more gives a large government more to waste

>> No.30439909

>>30439834
The billionaires aren't going to get increase in taxes, it's millionaires and below that will get tax rate increase.

>> No.30440084

>>30438138
>You have to renounce,
>>30437968
>All I have is losses. But actually, if I cash out and renounce my US citizenship, can't I just leave?
>>30439570
There isnt any other country that is actually a good place to sell crypto. They all have higher tax rates. See that canadian link anon thread from last night. The Us is pretty cucked, but its less cucked than other countries.

>> No.30440153

>>30440084
Absolutely retarded

>> No.30440174

>become bitcoin multimillionaire
>move coins to cold wallet
>move to another country
>renounce citizenship

US citizenship offers zero benefits anymore. It has become a burden. Watch when our congress passes the amnesty bill and gives the illegals the option to live as a legal resident or become a citizen, just how few will opt for citizenship.

>> No.30440190

>>30424333
checked and blessed...
crypto diaspora....we shall infiltrate and subvert the merchant banking system worldwide and take them down from within... j the j

>> No.30440297

>>30440153
Post country and post tax rates. Dont name me some flat faced asian swampland.

>> No.30440307

>>30439423
Nah let some other fuck pay for it

>> No.30440389

>>30440174
>illegals probably don't pay taxes

KEK US IS A KEKED COUNTRY

>> No.30440454

>>30433876
I'm feeling it

>> No.30440483

>>30440297
This is not as simple as that simpleton

It's about (((YOUR))) lack of understanding of the world.

FYI I have 3 passports & turned down the US passport.

You've never left your state have you?

>> No.30440486

Low gas fee today, time get more $ENQ
Look at this dudes, you will see that this blockchain is new stage in crypto
mobile dapps and mining
I am safe now with this system, tards wouldn’t get how it is working

>> No.30440554

>>30439662
thanks anon this is great stuff!

>> No.30440555

>>30440483
>FYI I have 3 passports & turned down the US passport.
>You've never left your state have you?
Cope. Howd those Swiss banks go? Got fucked by the US because they wanted it. US also doesnt report income here to other countries. Enjoy your 3 passports to turd world countries.

>> No.30440630

>>30440389
I'm not saying illegals don't pay some form of taxes. I am saying that, like the previous amnesty bills, few of the illegals here in the US are here to become citizens. They are here to work and send money home. During the 2016 election this became apparent when the Democrats held a large drive to get those who were residing in the US legally from the 1980s amnesty to take the citizenship test and make it official. They remained non-citizens intentionally until they were frightened into doing it by the Democrats. They were convinced they were going to be kicked out by President Trump. Reagan signed that fucking amnesty bill that gave those fucks legal status. Almost 40 years went by between the amnesty and them finally taking the citizenship test.

>> No.30440793

I'll eat my own dick the day they offer any insight as to how exactly you're supposed to pay taxes on staking rewards. For a lot of tokens you're earning rewards every second or every millisecond, how do you calculate that? Is it based on the price of the token at the time it's received? What if the price goes down?

long story short go fuck yourself

>> No.30440821

>>30440555
Swiss bank accounts are a fucking meme retard, bank secrecy is dead.
Keep speaking show your lack of actual knowledge

They're all proper 1st world countries retard
UK
Ireland (access to 27 counties) multiple offer tax free crypto.
Canada
4th on the way also...

Do you even have a passport?

>> No.30440830

>>30440630
damn, so trump/ICE shit was merely controlled opposition to spook wetbacks into actually becoming citizens? why am i so retarded

>> No.30440953

>>30438828
fuking this

>> No.30441050

>>30440793
They jumped the gun and positioned themselves as a hostile player. They should consider amending their crypto strategy and become neutral or an ally again.

>> No.30441080

>>30440821
>UK
>Ireland (access to 27 counties) multiple offer tax free crypto.
>Canada
>4th on the way also...
None of those are first world countries. Didnt you read how i pointed out Canada has a worse tax code than the US. UK and Ireland are just as bad. You are giving up US passport because of bad tax code yet you go to countries where they will take 50% of your crypto every time you sell. Cope. Enjoy having all your crypto destroyed.

>> No.30441236

>>30441080
Like I give a shot about Canadas tax code, it not as bad as the USA, if becomes as bad I'll renounce & still have more passports than you.

All I care about is NOT having to file & declare my worldwide income.

COPE harder mutt

>> No.30441303

I'm off to bed
Hope you mutts renounce before it's too late

>> No.30441389
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30441389

>>30437504

>miners are shorting the market

Producers do hedge against downside risk a bit, that is true.

One Q though: do you think pic related is all miners? Or do you think it might be someone else?

>> No.30441456

>>30441236
>it not as bad as the USA
>Canada capitol gains 50%
>US Short term at most 37%, Longer at 15-20%.
Didnt you read that Canadian anon thread yesterday. You are a brainlet gonna pay out the ass when you cash out.

>> No.30441485

>>30435272
Retard. It means the whole thing is fake and they are just going to keep printing regardless of whether you pay or not. But they make sure you do so that you can’t break the cycle.

>> No.30441692

>>30422936
their audits would be in limbo for fucking years ontop of years and the IRS workforce isnt as big as most ppl think.
on avg more than 40% of american citizens dont even pay taxes annually.
and seriously good luck getting anyone to pay you when they have "lost their private keys in terrible boating accidents"
this looks like a lot of blowing smoke to strong arm weak spirited faggots into paying tax on "currency" which in itself is fucking fraud that the IRS is engaged in.
but whatever. shart in mart.

>> No.30441773

>>30441050
>They should consider amending their crypto strategy and become neutral or an ally again.
nothing the US govt does is friendly when it comes to its citizens.
and that is one of the biggest reasons that global citizens laugh their asses off at american idiots.
everything the US govt does to its citizens is hostile and its always going to be.

>> No.30441829

>>30422934
Same people who believe u go to jail if u don’t pay your taxes.

>> No.30442017

>>30436545
> Pink memes on a Mongolian basket weavers forum gave me strong hands
Kek, true

>> No.30442089

>>30437502
>sell credentials to cash buyer or sell in person

how can I do that without being scammed?

>> No.30442210
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30442210

>>30422816
Good thing my country doesn't know what crypto is yet

>> No.30442321

>>30438828
This. And on the off-chance they do decide to penalize people, they'll probably do what the RIAA/MPAA did and just find three or four unlucky bastards to absolutely rape in court and blast it on the mainstream media.

>> No.30442380

>>30441773
I didn’t say it wasn’t a pipe dream, I said consider leaving. Their global contrarian messages have been on display for a while now. US peace and security is a meme.

>> No.30442385

>>30422816
people just leave....capital controls can't stop crypto.

>> No.30442437
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30442437

if they have the capability of tracking all my shitcoin trades for me, why don't they just send me a fucking invoice instead of making me do work and spend money for no reason

>> No.30443066

>>30441050
>western governments are less like allies to their citizens every passing day

>> No.30443158

why cant the IRS just inform people of how much they owe
why do you still have to estimate how much you owe and if you underpay you get fucked
>>30442385
these boomers probably think bitcoin is actually stored physically in the wallet KEK