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30289511 No.30289511 [Reply] [Original]

>Ethereum will be deflationary in 3 months
prepare accordingly

>> No.30289797

>>30289511
I doubt that skelly will deliver and if he does not in time.

>> No.30289917

>>30289511
it ain't happening. more than 50% of miners voted against it

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30289993

>>30289511

>> No.30290140

>>30289917
>Users have also been bellyaching about gas fees for months, and there have been some notable examples of sky-high fees for simple transactions, including a $36,000 Uniswap trade.

One notable group less excited about the proposal is Ethereum miners. There have been threats of a hard fork and alternative proposal put forth, and some estimates pegged the loss in revenue for miners at 50%. Ultimately, however, the proposal is now going forward, putting an end to “selfish” mining practices.

Ohh, it's coming anon.

>> No.30290203

>>30289993
Why does fluoride stare happen guys? Is it because of tooth paste?

>> No.30290317

>>30289511
Vitalik's weight seems deflationary as well

>> No.30290485

>>30290203
(((they))) put it in the water. Why? To reduce dental fees? Why would (((they))) want to do that?

>> No.30290635

>>30289917
no, mining pools have been speaking for miners
miners are also fully aware their days are numbered in crypto in general and are more than happy to simply keep their 10k ETH and stake that shit when the time comes and sell their graphics cards to kids wanting to play fortnite
they are just going to move to another coin and mine the fuck out of it just like they always have
because miners are against it honestly doesn't mean much

fuck off f2pool

>> No.30290958

>>30290485
Damn it, I'm drinking tap water all the time because I'm a cheap bastard. So what you're saying is I should by bottled water, would that faggot ass filter help?

>> No.30290998

>>30289511
>3 months
you mean 3 solar cycles?

>> No.30291054

>>30289917
45% voted against it, dumbass.

>> No.30291093

>>30290958
I think there's special filters for it. I'm not sure about bottled water.

>> No.30291176

>>30289917
Officially greenlit for the july hardfork in the call this morning.

>> No.30291268

>>30290317

>> No.30291331

>>30290998
He means three moon cycles

>> No.30291626

deflationary doesn't mean shit. no one gives a single fuck.

when sharding.

when will dapps use optimistic rather than fucking matic bridges.

>> No.30291699

>>30289993
I kek every time I see David Bowie in that pic

>> No.30291720

>>30289917
That makes me super bullish. Buying ETH right now.

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>>30291176
There aren't actually miners who think anyone would stay on a forked chain that they purposefully gimped upgrades off of to preserve their own profits, are there?

Do they really think that making their profits race down to zero is better than letting their profits take a hit?

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30291763

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.30291826

>>30291720
Fuck off. I invested 50k in setting up an ETH mining farm last month

>> No.30291906

>>30291826
That's called "buying the top", anon. Welcome to Crypto.

>> No.30291974

>>30290485
They put fluoride into tap water for the same reason we put antibiotics into animal feed. It keeps the cattle healthy and complacent so they can work more and last longer.

>> No.30292053
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>>30289993

>> No.30292167

>ordered 2 GPUs to start a little farm last month
>didn't arrive because they ran out of stock
Luckchadding this market all the way to a billion dollars

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30292447

>>30289511
All in.

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>>30291054
and that's probably inflated in and of itself
believe it or not most miners actually want eth to do well overall because they own a shit ton of eth. it's all about balance.
>>30291626
>no one gives a single fuck
are you kidding?
those eth2 things you mentioned are coming-- optimism is this month, and now eip1559 in july
the dump is over. eth2 (1.5) is happening. it's no longer a meme. today's a good day.
>>30291720
>super bullish
youll be rewarded in building a better network. bsc and ada are seething because their 'soon' is the same 'soon' as eth's was up until a few hours ago.
fact of the matter is eth has the network and the scaling and economics are being polished.
>>30291754
depends on who you ask
look at eth classic
>>30291763
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>30291826
and it'll still be valuable from now until july
you do understand you'll make a LOT of money back on this rig and you can probably mine something like rvn DURING A BULL RUN and still make profit, right?
just sell your hardware mid-next year. you'll be fine.

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>>30292477

>> No.30292845

>>30289511
Source?

>> No.30292915

>>30289511
Too late eth bros this project has lost too much momentum.

>> No.30292934

>>30292845
type "eip1559" into google
read anything

>> No.30293501

>>30289511
It will be more deflationary than BTC... ADA just got btfo'ed...

>> No.30293737

>>30293501
>sold ADA just in time to still to stay green
>bought ETH today right after they announced EIP-1559

Fuck DCA, we buying the news.

>> No.30293753

>>30292915
Lolol. We have just begun... Multi Billion dollar companies say your wrong. You'd be an absolute fool not to invest in ETH at any point between now and 10k. And yes we will go to 10k and higher... this is just getting started.

>> No.30293784

>>30293737
Good short term to buy the news. Better long term to just DCA.

>> No.30293800 [DELETED] 

Hey guys.

Can you check out Mochimo?

I have seen it posted all over but I need to know if i should get in now.

>> No.30293878

>>30293753
Do you have a realistic timeframe to get to 10k?

>>30293800
Start a new thread.

>> No.30293931

>>30292053
That's a man

>> No.30294148

>>30291826
>he farms 5 years after a coin is out

>> No.30294191

>>30290958
>So what you're saying is I should by bottled water, would that faggot ass filter help?
The cheap ass filters barely filter anything let alone flouride. Do a search for water filters that filter flouride. If you can afford one get one that can filter pharmaceuticals too. Get bottled water for now. I get the gallons so I'm using less plastic. I'm getting a nice water filter soon.

>> No.30294282

>>30293878
Realistic timeframe? To bitcoin that went from 3k to 50k under a year? Yeah ok sport

>> No.30294403

>>30294282
i think that's the most annoying thing about crypto
we have about 10x as many red days as we have green days
but over time
that's all it takes to make it
be able to deal with 10x red

>> No.30294488

>>30294282
Understandably no one can truly know, but I've seen so many claims of it happening within the year. Just wondered if people around here had the same opinion, and if they did, why. Regardless, I'm in it for the long term so I don't mind if it goes up, down, sideways.

>> No.30294819

>ETH Burn Precludes Fixed Supply
By burning the base fee, we can no longer guarantee a fixed token supply. This could result in economic instability as the long term supply of ETH will no longer be constant over time. While a valid concern, it is difficult to quantify how much of an impact this will have. If more is burned on base fee than is generated in mining rewards then ETH will be deflationary and if more is generated in mining rewards than is burned then ETH will be inflationary. Since we cannot control user demand for block space, we cannot assert at the moment whether ETH will end up inflationary or deflationary, so this change causes the core developers to lose some control over Ethereum’s long term monetary policy.
>https://eips.ethereum.org/EIPS/eip-1559
I bet this will just end in another hard fork.

>> No.30294861

Does this solve that gas problem? How much cheaper?

>> No.30294923

>>30289511
$2k easily

>> No.30294961

>>30294861
No, it just makes it more predictable. Layer2 already exists via loopring and others. Uniswap will be going v3/layer2 soon, so at that point you'll see cheaper swaps.

>> No.30295184
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30295184

Did more reading. If ETH can't even implement this mediocre half-solution without miners flipping their shit and the risk of a fork fiasco coming up, how the hell is the gas problem ever going to be solved? We're ALREADY getting cucked by IOTA snatching up real-world-relevant oracle business because ETH is too expensive to run anything that isn't incestuous crypto-speculation horseshit.

Is there ANY reason to think that ETH is anything other than a bubble waiting to pop as soon as a more efficient project picks up steam?

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30295340

>>30295184
who you picking fren?

EOS
Algorand
Tezos
Avalanche
Cardano
Binance Chain
Cosmos
NEO
Harmony ONE
Polkadot
NEM
Tron
IOTA
Ethereum Classic
Solana
Zilliqa
Elrond
Near
Holochain
Icon
Lisk
Fantom
Stratis
ARK

>> No.30295439

>>30295184
>Is there ANY reason to think that ETH is anything other than a bubble waiting to pop as soon as a more efficient project picks up steam?

Institutional investors. Also, ETH is expensive because its popular. As I said to another anon, Layer 2 already exists on dydx, loopring, zksync, zkswap (hybrid model), and on the gaming/NFT side, Immutable-X. Eventually it'll pick up on Uniswap once it goes v3 in the coming month or so.

>> No.30295446

>>30292477
>eth2 (1.5)
in other wirda, ETH 2 was cancelled because devs couldn't deliver and now they're shilling 1.5 as (((2)))

>> No.30295470

>>30295184
The hard part is for any ETH competitor to pick up steam.

>> No.30295542

>>30295184
This, a 100x times
ETH is cucked beyond all belief
Buy Bitcoin and Litecoin and Monero. Fuck BCASH and mETHheads and all other shitcoiners
Stock to Flow. Moon. Institutional investors buying up, supply shock. Honeybadger

>> No.30295593

>>30289511
if only you understood that ETH being deflationary means the death of DeFi and other applications being built on it since tx fees will skyrocket in USD value. If layer 2 and sharding doesn't get out soon people will start to migrate to other shittier smart contract chains

>> No.30295693

>>30295340
I'm holding "blockchain agnostic" utilities like LINK and GRT and praying that being ETH tokens for now doesn't gimp the projects in the long haul. Hence, I get nervous when, e.g., all of LINK's progress and power evidently proves to be fucking irrelevant to IBM and Intel when they can just go IOTA and not have to deal with ETH's bullshit.

>> No.30295703

I really hope the miners contest this fork and we get some free Ethereum Cash. We need another Jihan character and contentious July hard fork to really cement the 2021 bull run narrative.

>> No.30296002

>>30295439
>ETH is expensive because its popular
That's the problem, not a solution. The quintessence of the Gas problem is that ETHERIUM SCALES LIKE SHIT

Why would anyone interested in a long hold care about "institutional investors" buying into the speculative money-shuffling? Show me CUSTOMERS

>> No.30296115

>>30291054
where to vote sirs?

>> No.30296233
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>ethereum won't fuck it up this time
>ethereum won't fuck it up this time
>ethereum won't fuck it up this time
>ethereum won't fuck it up this time
>ethereum won't fuck it up this time
>ethereum won't fuck it up this time <-- you are here
>ethereum won't fuck it up this time
>ethereum won't fuck it up this time
>ethereum won't fuck it up this time
>ethereum won't fuck it up this time
>ethereum won't fuck it up this time

>> No.30296343

>>30289511
I thought ETH was kill. Looks like they sorted it. This shits going to take off and I sold it all. FML.

>> No.30296381

>>30296002
>That's the problem, not a solution. The quintessence of the Gas problem is that ETHERIUM SCALES LIKE SHIT

I 100% agree. All these changes are in support of ETH's scaling issues. I don't know if people realize what ETH is trying to do here. They are basically trying to be web 3.0. Creating and managing that doesn't happen overnight. Go take a look at some of the EIP discussions on github, watch the dev talk videos. There are a shit ton of world renowned developers focused on scaling and maintaining ETH. I'm shilling it hard because this is a long term vision and short term solutions are currently necessary to keep the network running until London fork, Berlin fork, and then ETH2 is released.

>> No.30296477

>>30296381
so how is deflation good for the network?

>> No.30296527

>>30296343
>tfw all in ETH
My body and mind are ready to receive that sweet green dildo of my dreams. 15000 eoy.

>> No.30296647

>>30296477
scarcity. then scaling is being addressed with other upgrades

>> No.30296825

>>30296381
What you're saying is fundamentally plausible, but I'm struggling to see this as anything other than a "cumbersome giant gets sniped by lean innovator who changes the world" story waiting to happen. Big-dollar miners are bitching and moaning and bogging the project down in politics and voting and forks and reeeeee in a world where, I repeat, a project like IOTA can waltz right up to *INTEL* and say, "Hi, I can meet all your needs but way cheaper than anything on ETH, wanna start buying oracle data?"

The question to me seems to be whether or not they can get a bonafide solution like ETH2 up and running before the world moves on without them. And I'm just not sure how promising that sounds.

>> No.30296853

>>30296647
>scarcity instead of users
doomed to fail. Scaling is more of a pressing issue than current inflation that will be further minimized with PoS. This just means you'll be losing users faster than you'll be gaining value through scarcity.

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>>30289511
POOHEREUM

>> No.30297149

>>30296853
what. they are literally working on 5 projects right now to scale, some of the working already

>> No.30297342

>>30296477
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGemhK9t44Q&feature=youtu.be

>>30296825
You can still run the ETH network and utilize all the benefits of a decentralized network for whatever use case you want. The issues come in when people are trying to use uniswap to go from ETH to whatever. Intel or other companies don't give a shit about that. They want to use an actively developed, and tried ecosystem for their use case. I wouldn't think they'd give a shit about the price of trading crypto on an exchange, which is what a lot of retail investors are complaining about.

>> No.30297436

>>30295542
>litecoin
kill yourself

>> No.30297550

>>30289511
>3 months
So right about the end of this bullrun? I think eth is the future but this cycle will be probably pretty dissapointing

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>>30290958
Anon I'd be more worried about all the hormones and pharmaceuticals that are in the river where your municipal supplier pumps their water from. Ya know with everyone pissing and shitting out opiates, antidepressants, and birth control. All treated sewage goes to the river and these all come with it.

Emerging issue that is not well studied AT ALL. Some will say pic related but its really not.

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The hilarity that will ensue when EIP1559 goes live and fees don't fall is going to be worth the decrease in mining earnings.

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>googled it
>pic related
I'm scared guys

>> No.30297970

>>30297342
>I wouldn't think they'd give a shit about the price of trading crypto on an exchange, which is what a lot of retail investors are complaining about.
And yet Dell and Intel are already partnering up with IOTA. What if it turned out that having a native token that's expensive as hell to actually move around on its network had implications that effected more than just retail investors? This feels a lot less like an investment issue and a lot more like a fundamental inefficiency in the way the network handles data - and one which its competitors are already addressing to the satisfaction of actual real-world end-users.

>> No.30297976

>>30297872
wrong thread

>> No.30298013

>>30297633
>only thing in that picture that isn't associated with mental illness is blaming Mossad
Hmmmm who could be behind this picture....

>> No.30298037

>>30297436
Bitcoin aka digital gold first. Then Litecoin aka digital silver.

>> No.30298152

>>30289511
I bought all my eth when it was 120 bucks. I cannot fathom purchasing more at this price.

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30298180

>>30298037
>hurr silver to bitcoin's gold
stop falling for this scammer's shitty PR narrative

>> No.30298230

>>30289511
Unironically, what does this mean for ETHs future? They need to fix gas but this is bullish also

>> No.30298406

>>30291826
get fucked retard

>> No.30298480

>>30294861
No, in fact deflationary ETH might cause the price of ETH to go up, thereby causing gas fees to be higher (in terms of USD value).

>> No.30298528

>>30298230
Seems like it's going to be a supply shock for ether. Price has to go up, right?

>> No.30298840

>>30298230
Bullish for near-term speculating investors. Bearish for actual end-users and holders who want to hold for more than a year or two who care about end-users.

>> No.30299068

How will making ETH deflationary help with high gas fees?

>> No.30299242

>>30299068
It won't. The point of EIP-1559 is not helping lower gas fees. Here's a good video explainer (endorsed by the ETH dev team)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGemhK9t44Q

>> No.30299407

>>30299068
It won't. And one really wonders what their plan is for rolling out actual deep changes to fix the gas problem if they can't even do this without their own network starting to mutiny.

>> No.30299842

>>30291826
Just mine a different coin then but realistically eth won’t have PoS for many years to come

>> No.30300074

>>30295542
>complains about fees but suggests Bitcoin and shuns BCH.

Kek smooth brain

>> No.30300225

>>30299407
I think their plan is to pump their premined bags as hard as possible, desu.

>> No.30300399

>>30289917
>miners have a say
KEK

>> No.30300997

>>30289917
>>30290140
ETH miners the lowest greedies liveform on earth

>> No.30301244

>>30295184
ETH miners are irrelevant. They're on the death row anyway.

>IOTA
lol

>> No.30301348

>>30289511
>ETH devs tell us EIP 1559 is coming in July
Translation: something similar to EIP 1559, but not quite EIP 1559, and not nearly as game changing as EIP 1559 might have been, MIGHT come out in December of 2022, if you're lucky, but probably not.

>> No.30301366

>>30300997
How stupid are you really though?
A few kids making a couple hundred extra bucks a month on a required service compared to chink bitcoin mining farms. Sorry you can't afford a gpu phoneposter.

>> No.30301450

>>30300997
I don't even get it. If they got their way and EIP1559 didn't go through, ETH would just collapse under its own weight and the 'eth killers' would eat its lunch. Then the miners would still lose anyway, because the ETH they mine would be worthless.

Meanwhile if they approve it, yes, they get less money per transaction, but lowering fees also allows for higher transaction throughput, so they'd still get more money anyway. So what the FUCK is their problem?

>> No.30301758

>>30297970
And nothing was gained as IOTA sits at 1.32.

What Companies Are Using Ethereum For Enterprise Use Cases?
https://consensys.net/blog/enterprise-blockchain/forbes-releases-top-50-billion-dollar-companies-exploring-blockchain-over-half-are-working-with-ethereum/

Enjoy.

>> No.30301845

>>30295340
My chips are on Tezos and Avalanche - I just think they have the biggest potential. I hope I am not wrong, but currently I am pretty optimistic.

>> No.30301941

>>30301845
>Tezos
fuck off chang

>> No.30302106

>>30289511
Miners will fuck up the network. this is what you get when you promise POS in 2016 but you still have POW. ETH will fuck this UP , we all know it. But you wont admit it

>> No.30302214

>>30299068
How will optimistic and zk rollups help with infinite supply?

>> No.30302258

>>30295184
>We're ALREADY getting cucked by IOTA snatching up real-world-relevant oracle business
This is objectively false btw.

>> No.30302312

ETH is a train wreck.. Just lol at the delusional ETH bag holders.

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>>30289511
I was prepared since forever. All in ETH never selling, buying every dip. Unironically all my eggs are in one basket, Ethereum IS crypto. And the future of crypto is huge.

>> No.30302652

>>30302258
Source? I'm genuinely trying to be proven wrong here.

>>30301758
This is the kinda thing I want to see. Not that it totally puts concerns to bed that ETH2 won't roll out in time to keep an ETH-killer from stealing this market-share, or just stealing a bigger share of the pie as it grows.

>> No.30302702

>>30302316
this is worse than shit I see in the XRP schizo threads man
you're going to crash and burn so hard

>> No.30303767

>>30297828
>The hilarity that will ensue when EIP1559 goes live and fees don't fall
they're not supposed to fall

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>>30302652
fuddling with ethereum to test shit out - will be moving to cardano KEVM for launch.

>> No.30304114

>>30301348
this is what will happen. pizza-fueled hackathon #372: engage

>> No.30304334

>>30300997
>they put efforts for several years, securing and validating the network
>they need to sell eth to pay bills
vs
>72% premine hold by a few whales that wants to subvert the rules and sit their asses doing nothing after accumulating for several years because they had no bills to pay
tell me who is greedy again

>> No.30304677

>go to open maker dao vault
>$200 gas fee
nty

>> No.30306219

I dont understand how somebody with even 2 working brain cells can write anything good about IOTA given its history.
Are those bags really so heavy?

>> No.30306348

>>30291176
why arent we mooning then?

>> No.30306391 [DELETED] 

what bt a cuttie trip from planet earth when the GSX does x10 ??
doDO NOT waste your effort on erc20 coins, if you need profit - get GSX and earn $$$

>> No.30306919

>>30290485
hey cavities are the #1 silent killer in america! before they put fluoride in the water, no one in america had any teeth. You've heard of george washington, the richest man in america? Fake teeth. Now look at us. So many teeth, some people even have to get them removed. It's amazing! All the lives saved. Drink your tap water my friends, it's yum yum yummy!

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Does this mean I can stop staking for a measly 9% APY soon? I coulda made it 10x over by yield farming this whole time you baka skelly.

>> No.30307480

>>30290203
Because you're boring people and are too autistic to care. People don't like getting lots of hard to digest information you learned over the course of few hours spoken to them all at once. They can't remember or begin to understand what you splurge out but have to pretend like they're still interested.

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30307580

>>30295446
it isnt about lack of delivery you fucking retard its about how new tech (rollups) are decentralized enough and deliver a higher tps than even things like avax or nano or ada
so eat a dick
>>30295470
its called the network effect, and yeah, go to coingecko's defi consolidation and look at all the projects built on it
>pancakeswap
bsc is a centralized piece of shit clone of eth, a litecoin or bcash if you will
>>30295593
they're all going to l2 you fucking idiots
>>30295693
>I get nervous
good play. own industry agnostic things like plastic production etc. cant hate you for that. personally, i'll enjoy petroleum for the next 100 years
>>30296233
so you mean to tell me the same trajectory of going from 0.40 to $1500 is going to continue? fantastic.
>>30296343
the only thing that was kill was your adhd and your life goals
>>30296647
see optimism this month
>>30296825
>bonafide solution
seems you've never worked in software
the entirety of software, the internet, etc are more or less built on bugs.
>>30296895
oh vishnu
>>30297828
except miners support it and proof of stake is coming, sorry you bought into the ada shills lies
>>30297970
>Dell and Intel are already partnering up with IOTA.
two failing companies partnered with a failing blockchain
nice
>>30298180
it was so bad
so so bad
charlie dumping his ltc in 2017 was AMAZING
>>30298230
the tokenomics of this will more or less force people to use rollups, which will make the fees essentially zero
what people still havent realized is that there may/will be onramps directly to rollups, where for example with xDai, someone buys xDAI directly, and exists within that ecosystem instead of l1->l2
>>30298406
he's doing gods work
>>30298480
>USD
which is failing, my entire perspective of money since coming onto this board has been redefined

>> No.30307762

>>30289511
Why is this faggot wearing a pink watch?

>> No.30307838

>>30289511
Ohhhh such epic but hurt and fund shit coins like ADA. EIP will be mote deflationary than even BTC... like whats the point of ADA as its a good year out for dApps to be released. By then ETH 2.O will be out... and ADA cucks will be holding a bag of diapers. XRP is on the ropes and will never be a player. So many jealous people wanting to be millionaires but continually choose coins with no future. I'm in my 40s and when I was in my 20 to 30s I could choose the right investments either... Youll learn the hard way like we all did. Ive been in crypto since 2014 too... I aint a noob and about to hit a million. Dump money in cryptos that have zero future cause you don't understand the technology and only follow the crowd. Sucks for you. ;)

>> No.30307997

bros help me reach 32ETH so I can stake
how to make 32ETH from only 4.

>> No.30308000

>>30291176
Sauce

>> No.30308032

>>30298528
>supply shock for ether
theoretically yes. this makes eth's 'max supply' somewhat difficult to determine, but most of the predictions say "probably less than what it is now"
>>30298840
are you retarded? it's infinitely more bullish for long term investors than near-term.
near term it's nothing
long term i was just told essentially the largest gold mine on earth was just nuked with a dirty bomb and there will be no more gold produced, essentially ever
>>30299068
what the anons replied to said is mostly true
>>30299407
>rollups
>>30299842
>Just mine a different coin
that's literally what's going to happen, which begins the more concentrated effort of launching PoS
>>30300225
game theory
i appreicate that you said premined, which takes me back.
the ultimate maxi joke is how the fuck was btc not essentially premined by the people who started it?
>ANYONE COULD HAVE MINED IT
yeah
EXCEPT THE 10 PEOPLE WHO KNEW ABOUT IT
you could actually argue ETH had a more fair launch than BTC in that respect
btfo
>>30300997
wow no? they're just trying to make a living. miners just want to get what's theirs. the network is theirs.. and mine. they're just realizign the same shit that oil companies are, they know it's not sustainable, and this event was always going to be like pulling teeth.
>>30301244
>ETH miners are irrelevant
fuck you? they are 1000% important in this conversation
>>30301348
no you can actally read what eip1559 is you idiot, welcome to decentraliziation
seethe more with your adabags
>>30301450
>So what the FUCK is their problem?
the system working exactly as intended. absolutely ruthless desire to mine the coin. this is literally why PoW works so well and Bitcoin is still king and NOT NANO.
>>30301845
>the biggest potential
good luck flushing your money down the drain
>>30302106
>But you wont admit it
i wont because the entire reason it wasnt implemented in 2016 was because actual smart people are working on it. you may be too poor, but slow and steady wins

>> No.30308263

>>30307580
>>30308032
dude

>> No.30308360

>>30302214
by having a place where eth2.0's dreams will flourish, but backed up by the base layer. believe it or not, this is very much how the internet, and any other branch of software you know and love generally works.
plenty of people have come up with solutiosn to "rewrite smtp" but nobody fucking cares, it already works well
>>30302316
>Ethereum IS crypto
quite based quote
>>30302702
>you're going to crash and burn so hard
no, it's not, because literally every other crypto besdies btc and eth are PURELY BASED ON HOPIUM
>>30304677
you'll probably have a solution later on
sorry you can't compound your $1000
you should write a pooled protocol for mkr vaults for poorfags. would probably make you a millionaire.
OH WAIT
YOU WANT TO BUY $500 OF ETH AND RETIRE TOMORROW
sorry
>>30306348
because this thread is so fucking long it proves no one knows what the fuck they're even investing in, that's why
>>30307285
this month actually
>>30307762
that's what you focus on?
>>30307838
based oldfag
>>30307997
flipping shitcoins from the top 200-300 range
save 50% and repeat again
>>30308263
just replying i can't beleive this thread is still going

>> No.30308920

>>30304334
nigger the rules were literally PoS by 2016/2017
max supply was envisioned to hover around 100M
miners got 4+ years of free mining
you've got to be absolutely out of your mind to think what is essentially service providers deserve even half of what they got
it'd be like paying the internet cable companies more than google + facebook + amazon + everything else
the people who provide real value are the developers making dapps and improving the protocol
to a lesser extent users who participate in the ecosystem
can't wait until we kick PoW faggots off the chain. anon said it perfectly, lowest lifeforms. taking a worldwide computer with the potential to change society and always breaking down to "but muh fiat profits! muh need more fiat profits!" and assuming everyone works at the same despicable level
miners produce negative value, similar to the very finance types we're moving away from except lower class. fucking revolting to have these inbred retards even in a position to challenge terms

>> No.30308957

The same bullshit with these so called ETH killers every god damn cycle.

>> No.30309590

>>30308032
> EXCEPT THE 10 PEOPLE WHO KNEW ABOUT IT
you could actually argue ETH had a more fair launch than BTC in that respect

I always hated this.
I had heard about bitcoin end of 2009 and by that time the guys before me had already mined 1 million coins out of 21 total.
A total fucking scam. I declined to mine or to participate.

Bitcoin will die, its only a matter of time. FED or anyone else can anytime release an exact but just change sha256 to sha3 bitcoin and give equal opportunity to everyone to mine from the start. Done. Bitcoin becomes bitcorn.


>>30308360
flippin shitcoins sigh thats how I aquired these 8 from 1 eth inital, but it took 2 months and bull market.

>> No.30309662

>>30308957
Just use them to increase your ETH stack.

I turned 20 ETH into 180 and sold 120 of it at 1,700. I would never hold any ETH killer longer than a few months though.

>> No.30309777

>>30308920
based mother fucker based

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>>30308920
>the people who provide real value are the developers making dapps and improving the protocol
as much as i respect miners for putting their money on the line to crank the network, this is something that all miners need to seriously start understanding
there are three main parts to the etherverse
, miners
, users
, developers
right now users and devs are unhappy. miners will still be nice and fat during this transition, albeit not AS fat
other miners are imo biting the hand that feeds in this case, which is why they kind of decided "yeah sorry i guess you're right" this morning
>>30309590
>I had heard about bitcoin end of 2009
i first read this and was about to rage, thinking "you had enough time anon" then
>by that time the guys before me had already mined 1 million coins out of 21 total.
like this is literally 5% (1/20, 1mm in satosh wallet)
anyone who uses the premine argument is fucking delusional
and the fact you "heard about it" in 2009 is either
, you saw someone actually mining it
or
, you read some obscure article saying 'theres this new money called btc!'
regardless it wasn't taken seriously in any fucking way
would be very interested to be attaching a picrelated right now that shows the number of bitcoin wallets over time, id assume, liberally,
1000 in 2009
2000 in 2010
4000 in 2011
and so on
to call eth premined is to essentially be screaming at the top of your lungs youre apart of a ponzi
>>30309590
i recommend this or a similar approach to anyone trying to flip
say you have 2 eth
0.5 eth for shitcoins, try and turn it into 1
use 0.5 of that and try and turn it into 2
use 1 of that and turn it into 2 or even 3
rinse and repeat
>>30309777
checked

>> No.30310016

>>30294488
if the bullrun survives until december and they deliver 10k is very possible

>> No.30310294

All in on eth + link.

>> No.30310723

>>30310008
> i recommend this or a similar approach to anyone trying to flip
thanks anon

>> No.30310772

all crypto forums are shit as shills increasingly outnumber autists

>m'gas problem
i dont think you tards realize the relationship between gas and trust

who gives a shit if your 0.001 TARD token can yield 420% APY if some scammer can yoink the wallet? or some pool can overpower it? or the code was never audited?

all the shitter chains are just centralized jina shitware and rentable hashpower easily overpowers every "eth killer"

loopring and zkswap are both jina shitware too, but soon we'll have uniswap and optimistic.

the demand of trustable defi (eg. currently only ethereum L1) is driving the gas price, no other solution has comparable liquidity and trust, it's that simple.

once defi swaps are off-chain, gas fees will return to normal, essentially solving the gas problem without doing anything.

>> No.30311547

>>30293931
Incredibly based

>> No.30311890

lotta based in this thread
might start flipping shitcoins back into eth now

>> No.30312193

miners aint shit. problem is with l2 it wont be deflationary, need to find a way to burn 4 million+ eth a year, unlikely unless gas fees are this high still, even after l2.

at this this removes one huge negative for eth though, with it not actually being required for txs. its still never going to be a store of value though, so dont get your hopes up.

>> No.30312907

>>30310772
>TARD
im dying
>>30311890
this idea is the equivalent to 2017 people trying to believe nano is going to flip btc
its not happening
btc and eth are here to stay,everything else is gamble
>>30312193
just like oil
desu im glad im in the saud family now

>> No.30313186

>>30312907
One more coin will survive after this bull run
Btc eth... We need one more coin for holy trinity

Where is that guy who made TempleOS can we ask him to make a coin

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>>30298180

>> No.30313821

>>30313186
>coin
Terry davis is dead. You are the blackest gorilla retard nigger.

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>>30299242
>Double the block size
>Gas fees don't go down
Yeah ok anon

>> No.30314459

>>30313186
>One more coin
link unironically
>>30313438
for 2017 this is a great meme otherwise its a joke
ltc is fucking bch without question
>>30313832
keep in mind it's the ethereum ogs that are saying 'gas fees will stay the same' they mean this in a very ivory tower kind of way
they will go down in the same way that widening a 1 lane road traffic will go down
more accidents
more people using the road
etc
the vast majority of eths issues are simply because of usage and people suggesting their cheap chains piss me the fuck off
>ada
>come to our chain where everything is cheap and you can do nothing!
>avax
>come to our chain where everything is cheap and there are possibly double spends and no defi
>bsc
>come to our chain where everything is cheap and it's centralized and you're more or less playing around on a 'decentralized' version of binance!
dont buy ethereum, keep buying your shitcoins

>> No.30314820

>>30289511
miners will move to LTC and ZEC, unironically. then ZEC will flip LTC and eventually ETH. check 'em.

>> No.30314832

Why are miners so retarded?
>if high gas costs don't keep making us passive millions every week we'll just kill the network!!! We're blissfully unaware that the plebs are tired of paying 200 bucks for a transaction and that as a result Eth is at a risk of dying from that!!!

>> No.30315348

>>30309590
>I'm late and I can't make money, so it must be a scam and must die
kek, slave mentality

>> No.30315373

>>30297828

https://willeip1559lowergasprices.org/

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>>30298013
its only the most fervent shills who post it as well...

little hat, big nose

>> No.30316953

>>30314832
because it was ultimately an empty threat
>>30315373
>https://willeip1559lowergasprices.org/
minercope Times New Roman
miners are fully aware they can 'go to another coin' in the same sense that you are aware you can 'go to another coin'
this is policy and miners are ultimately on board

>> No.30317274

>>30316953
>minercope Times New Roman
what? is that site made by miners?

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>>30289511

sure. and iota is feeless and fixed supply. watch it pump this month before the network update.

>> No.30319266

>>30293878
you nigger, it is going to peak at 20k this run by mid jan to feb of 2022

>> No.30319350

>>30290958
Nope filter wont filter out fluoride

>> No.30320800

>>30318122
Based anon
>>30319266
Ahahahah maybe in another 3-4 years Eth 2.0 will be running... or not? Meanwhile iota will prevail, eth is fundamentally broken to offer scalability, idk why skelly wont admit it yet ;)))))

>> No.30322134

>>30291754
Classic Kodak dilemma

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>>30290317

>> No.30322332

>>30297342
That guys channel is great. No fluff "HEY GUYS SO TODAY" shit all solid facts

>> No.30322366

bought a fuckton when it went down to 1350 the other day, ETH is going to rip in the next few months. screencap and cum tribute this post.

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>>30322366
same bro

>> No.30324139

>>30322366
>>30323943
I hope they finally deliver after so long time heheheh if they dont consider your shitcoin dead ;)

>> No.30324250

You guys trying to get us noobs to sell are assholes, DIAMOND HANDS MY POOR BROTHERS, DIAMOND FUCKIN G HANDDSSS

>> No.30324644

some of you are either incredible larpers, or so retarded it hurts my head. 1559 doesn't need to significantly gas lower fees - gas fees unironically don't even need to go lower long term. eth 2.0 doesn't even need to be released for "muh scalability." open your eyes. L2's are already taking off. L2's that use eth network effects and economic might to secure their networks and for final settlement are the future. composability between L2's is where ETH scales. finality and security will be provided by eth's mainnet, and still useful for whale tx's, and potentially other smaller to mid range tx's - but not meant for tiny tx's - and that's fine. as for the miner's - the ones opposing are just fighting the tide. there's no point. fork them, they can fork and it will do nothing. dapps won't follow. users won't follow. there will be little/no economic viability there. 1559 hardens eth economic fundamentals, and makes the asset "ultrasound" money. smart miners would start saving up eth. people don't realize the 2.0 phase 0 wasn't being mutually exclusive to all other planned "phases" (really just parts). phase .5/1/1.5 have all been worked on simultaneously - and don't even have to be released in order. viable contract execution on PoS is coming sooner than they think.

>> No.30324926

>>30289511
Eth 20k eoy

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>>30292053
Good morning.

Sunday morning.

>> No.30325626

>>30290958
You're supposed to distill all water, don't buy into the mineral deficiency bullshit

>> No.30325895

>>30302316
All in eth to and will buy for the next ten years even when I make it I'll buy

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Too late.

>> No.30326092

>>30303767
Then what is the function of 1559?

>> No.30326308

>>30289511
Yeah the bull run would be over until then.

Fuck this shitcoin I fucking wish it didn't exist. It's doing nothing but holding back the industry.

>> No.30326755

>>30326308
If ETH didn't exist neither would any of your shitcoins ranjeesh

>> No.30326827

>>30326755
not every coin is based on poothereum mahachod.

>> No.30326852

>>30289511
>EIP1559
>you WILL burn your Ethereum and you WILL be happy
>introducing universal basic fees to Ethereum

>> No.30326921

>>30326827
No just the fucking majority.

>> No.30327032

>>30326308
top kek

>> No.30327293

>>30301366
>Chinks buying up all the gpus
Chinks about to lose eth farms. I miss killing helpless chink miners on WoW. Shit was hilarious.

>> No.30327390

>>30301366
there won't be mining anything when people move to "the ethkillers"

they need to take the hit for the betterment of the network

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>>30327032

>> No.30327597

>>30314459
your posts seem p good this thread.

thoughts on DEXG?

>> No.30328548

>>30290635
f2pool is actually one of the few pools in favor of eip

>> No.30328671

>>30327553
>facebook image
good job cuck

>> No.30328755

Holy fuck I'm so glad I hold 200+ ETH. This coin is going to shoot past $10,000 within the next 3 years. Then I'll be sitting in my cabana in Havana with my main bitch from Savannah.

>> No.30329606

>>30308920
muy basado senor

>> No.30331148

>>30289917
where do you see these stats?

>> No.30332785

>>30331148
His ass.

>> No.30332899

>>30304334
>>30301348
>>30308032
Wow this thread is still up
Well i dont care what they think they deserve, i know they have expenses and so on and deserve money for that but when they get 100 dollar per transaction this is close to money laundering. 1 euro per transaction would be ok

>> No.30332915

>>30289511
check dubs

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>>30289917
>nooooo cz and his chinabros wanted to suppress eip1559 and the difficulty bomb longer for muh ccpchain! Think of the poor chink miners!!! they’ll only make 200m a month instead of 500!!

>> No.30333145

>>30292053
>1000 cock stare.
Many such cases. Sad!

>> No.30333265

>>30289511
As a miner I'm happy with the current state of ETH. No need to rock the boat if it works.

>> No.30333283

>>30289511
What does this mean for normies like me holding ETH in Coinbase?
What is happening with ETH?

>> No.30333325

Can I get a view on matic as a l2 solution? Should I flip my matic back to eth?

>> No.30333334

>>30289993
Yo that is Thom Yorke

>> No.30333462

>chink fork
>eth moons leading up to the free token
>happens, token lists dump it for free $
>fork fails cause no actual developers back it, meanwhile Plebs dump the forked coin into eth so it goes higher again
Could it be any easier bros?
5k by July

>> No.30333467

>>30333283
eth issuance is going to be slightly less, and miners aren't going to get to make as much from mining
might cost a few hashes in security, but considered a good move

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>>30290203
Yes and no.
Flouride in your toothpaste sort of has benefits. People think if they spit it out then they're good. However it binds to your teeth and mouth tissue and seeps into your saliva that you swallow throughout the day. A small dose of poison all day every day.
They also added that shit to your water.
There is also barely any boron left in the soil. Boron is a necessary mineral to turn flouride into boron mono-flouride so that your body can digest and discard it. When this doesn't happens, the flouride accumulate via deposits inside your body which throws off a ton of biological and also neurological functions necessary for long term health. Leads to brittle bones via calcium deposits as well as the calcification of your pineal gland (ie your third eye if you're spiritually inclined).
Long story short, start supplementing boron. You only really need 3mg daily but go ahead and take 10mg. You'll dream vividly for the first time in a very long time. Your free testosterone will increase and you will also feel more energetic because your body isn't being bogged down by toxins it can't digest.
You're welcome.

>> No.30334293

>>30333549
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4712861/
holy shit based post anon
ordering some of this shit on monday
thanks fren!

>> No.30334419

>>30292915
Lmao. Yep demand is low. That's why gas is so cheap..

>> No.30334583

>>30294819
Etc 2.0

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What do you ETH nerds feel about Fantom?
It's marketed as the ETH Helper so it should be nice right? :)

>> No.30336612

>>30333467
So less miners and more video cards? Sounds bearish for NVDA

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>>30333549
Thank you for reminding me this, ordering some boron and zinc now

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>>30336664

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>>30289511
Do normies know this, yet? Crypto twitter?

>> No.30337262

should i sell some link for eth? im kinda fomoing a bit

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>>30290203
>Is it because of tooth paste?
its in the water

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>>30289511
every one of these retarded coins is deflationary as fuck that's why they are absolutely useless and will never be used for anything

>> No.30338024

>>30289993
>fluoride stare
>'what a dumb bitch' stare

>> No.30338477

>>30292167
>ordered 2 GPUs to start a little farm last month
>with the current GPU prices
absolute retards on this board holy shit

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This thread is absolutely hilarious. The level of idealism and tribalism showcased in here is out of this world.
I'll savour every second of the breakdown, once reality hits and in the meantime I'll keep printing (worthless) FIAT with these glorified inflation buffers and move it into real assets.

>> No.30340656

>>30289511
>prepare accordingly
how?

>> No.30340791

>>30340656
buy a vibrating butt plug

>> No.30340869

>>30340656
probably trade BTC for eth but I'm afraid to do that.

>> No.30340882

>>30340791
thx, pink ID, bought 10 just in case, now to the point

>> No.30340905

>>30340882
different ones i hope. like various sizes and materials

>> No.30340919

>>30340869
what if you have eth tokens?

>>30340905
sure, black ones are a majority though

>> No.30340981

>>30340919
I'm gonna trade a lame project once ETH starts going up, but I have a BTC and wonder if I will make more trading that for ETH.

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>>30340919
>sure, black ones