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Sup wondering what your current situation is like and your plan of action for post pandemic life?

I'm 26, living near city centre with friends but unsure what my movedls are after covid. I know I want to travel, but also want to buy property. Doing a masters currently too. Guess I'm just looking for financial inspiration here. Are you deep on crypto? Feels like a mountain to climb out of just to get a deposit down on some shithole I probably don't even want. Maybe living abroad is better?

>> No.30267285

>>30267092
If i were irish i would kill myself

>> No.30267680

>>30267092
You'll have to take their monkey dna injections on a regular basis if you want to go anywhere after this. I've resigned myself to never leaving UK again, unless I can find a way around it.

>> No.30267816

>>30267680
What are you talking about, f+ck poster? This will end, their making progress. It just feels helpless as is

>> No.30267902

>>30267285
Where are you from?

>> No.30268019

Ireland bro here. Just bought an apartment cuase nobody wants them atm. Got a penthouse with awesome view and massive deck for chips. Work from home is a meme that will die soon as pandemic is over and apartments will skyrocket in value once young people start travelling and don't want large homes with gardens anymore.

Take the apartment pill anon

>> No.30268059

>>30267285
Gobshite

>> No.30268173

>>30267092
It's a bad suss if you're not living down the country somewhere, Dublin suburbs and commuter towns are ruthlessly overvalued atm

>> No.30268190

>>30267092

Similar. I'm a bit older living in Dublin. I have around 25K LINK + some other crypto; around 800K euro total.

Honestly Ireland will bend over and spread wide for corporations but will rape the individual, my dad always said said to gtfo but I have other commitments. I am sort of hoping that USDC gets adopted on a mass scale eventually so cashing out becomes less brutal; or can even be a sustainable form of passive income.

WOuldn't bother with the properities in DUb now man unless you've a good job. I'm well paid ish (85k/ year) and have decent passives coming in off myc rypto (3k a week; but obvs not sustainable). if I was you I would not be arsed travelling rn; when we're allowed back prices wille explode etc. Just focus on yourself for now. You're 26 so you're still a wee bab. Focus on your wealth + your health until 30, can start looking to settle down then.

UNless you've a mate rate or a pure culchie, I'd advise moving back in with yoru parents if you're from Dub; don't be paying someboomer tiger's 3rd mortgage for their investment propoerty. I'm very busy now until mid May, but would happy to meet up for a pint and a chat down the line. Drop a protonmail unless you're a complete weirdo in which case get away from me.

>> No.30268213

>>30267092
1/4 Irish,1/4 German,1/8 italian,1/12 scottish american here,can i join?

>> No.30268329

you wont ever make it until you learn to speak your own language
until that i will keep calling you english

>> No.30268345

Hopefully we’ll get another protest soon.

>> No.30268401

>>30268190

What do you work as and how do I get involved?

>> No.30268409

>>30268190
Do you know what the story with Crypto tax is? Was thinking of moving to Germany for a year to avoid it because my gf is German

I could be wrong here but from what I've seen it is just 33% tax on profits only similar to investments but after 8 years you're supposed to tax 33% of profits similar to investments.

Anyone know?

>> No.30268424

>>30268190
Link holder here too, not cashing out because the tax is so ruthless. I'd be interested in what you are using to farm your yeild?

>> No.30268503

>>30268409
33% is correct. I got in so early I'm all profit so when I see the amount of tax I have to pay it hurts so much.

Is the Irish tax department onto it tho? I feel like I could cash out and say nothing and just see if they even notice.

>> No.30268516

I'm in Belfast but have a few friends who are in Dublin. As tiny and boring as Belfast is, it always seemed like a massive pain to live in Dublin since your cost of living is fucking insane given that it's substantially cheaper to live somewhere that is just 3-4 hours away. Obviously there's upsides and downsides to both. A few of my other friends moved to London which seems even crazier seeing how they're paying even more to live and their whole reason for getting out of Ireland was "there's nothing to do here" but they literally spend all-day in their rooms in London.

>> No.30268521

>>30268401

I'm a doctor (Spr). Unless you're young or already in med school I wouldn't advise it if money is your primary goal. Consultants (senior american attending equivalent) make bank but its a long path and they deserve it desu.

If I was just finishing college now or in my early 20s I would be grabbing any job I could and workign my way in DeFi in way I could. I enjoy medicine dearly and have been doing it a while; also no debt from medical school so I'm relatively comfy.

>> No.30268602

>>30268329
If you also call Austrians German and Swiss French/German/Italian then that is fair enough but also if you do this you are seen as mentally retarded so well done empty head.

>> No.30268728
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I'm a dole warrior from Dublin living in a rural area with a 550 ADA stack putting a bit into it every week hoping that eventually it'll pay off in the long run but I'm looking to diversify my shitcoins/investments in general. I'm not too concerned about 'making it' with 7 digits, I just want enough money to live comfortably with my girlfriend

>> No.30268758

>>30268019
Retard take here. Are you honestly so dense to think that working from home is a meme? You do realize that all these companies here are saving a fortune off of electric and maintenance costs by having nobody in the offices? The company I work for has already laid plans to keep people working from home indefinitely, even when the pandemic ends(never). In fact, they're hiring more people.

>>30267092
Hey lad. Do you live in Dublin? If so, get out while you still can. Absolute shithole full of stupid cunts and pakies. If you want to still stay in the Dublin area for work-related reasons but don't want to live in Dublin, just look for property along the way to Dublin. The further out, the cheaper it gets, but you'll have to get up earlier to beat morning traffic and you'll spend a ton on petrol.

Honestly, for property, country-side is your best bet. Working from home is gonna be a reality for bigger companies, especially IT and Telecoms, so if you're gonna be in that sector you're most likely gonna be sitting at home working. Countryside doesn't mean some little village in the arse end of nowhere like Ballynoe, just a decently sized town that has all the amenities and good broadband. Consider Cork, or Kerry for relocation.

If you're desperate to go abroad, it depends on where you want to go and how committed you are to possibly learning a new language. I'm not planning on staying in Ireland myself (as I'm not even from here), and planning on moving to Norway in half a decade or so (as soon as I can grasp their fucking language). Australia is a meme and you won't find a fucking job their unless you do HVAC or have a degree in commerce. Canada is a safe bet, but I don't know if you'll find anything there. Rest of Europe is... fine? You'll earn less, but then everything will cost less.

As for crypto? I only got into it recently. Made a small stack, and lost it. Eager to earn it back and more. If you're a gambler, you'll love this.

>> No.30268780

>>30267816
It'll end? Remember a year ago when we were told 'two weeks to flatten the curve, then it will end'?
This isn't going to end for years, unless people say no to it en-masse. By separating everyone and making social contact illegal, they've so far prevented that. For people like you, still clinging to the notion that it'll all be over soon, there is a lot of pain ahead. You'd do well to waken up, and look the tyranny we are facing in the eye. Will you take the injections? I won't be. you'd need to strap me down to get that shit into me. When the dust settles on this, a lot of people will have died as a direct result of this massive psychopathic experiment. It looks like you'll be among them. And forget having descendants, if you were planning to.

>> No.30268798

>>30268503
Hard to say because the information about crypto is like a single line from them so it seems like they haven't a clue.

Revenue do seem to be one of the more competent government bodies though so it wouldn't surprise me if they could find out.

>> No.30268870

Lads, tell me that Bundoran hasn't been spoiled yet.

>> No.30268903

>>30268409
33% haircut if you do nothing. Income tax if you're,well making an income + actively trading. Its difficult because if you're trading on cexes you're possibly exposed heavily and fairly goosed, but if you're a dex man, they cant/ wont be able to track throguh etherscan. To do that, they need 1) to develop a strategy 2) find someone who knows what they're doing on etherscan. Also, even if they find a young man who has knowledge of crypto tax + etherscan etc, why on earth would they work for Revenue lol.

Also if you play on AVAX/ POLKADOT/ NEAR I wouldnt have a clue how they would find your txns. I would advise to keep your head low; with everyone scamming the PUP and the issues going on with Tax, just keep the head down. Ireland tend to operate on acts of good faith, so if you're cashing out a decent amount; immediatey putting some aside for tax payment into a separate bank account, and not being ridiculous, you should be ok. If they look back an see "Ok this guys is paying 20k a year for the past 4 years in tax" they'll leave you. Its Jonno and Deano who made 5 figures of crypto who withdraw straight into their Bank accoutn and start buying stupid stuff with no level headed plays.

>>30268503
They're not as ferocious as the IRS, but never udner estimate the financial revenue arm of any government. Especially in Ireland. Mot sur eif possible, but setting up a crypto hedge fund may be an option. It means you wont be able to cash out your principle, but you may be able to leverage the capital of your company for a mortgage + it gives you business exenses say up to 50k. Promise a moderately safe return of 8-10% yield (easily done in crypto; jsut yield farm any aggregators).

You'll never want to cash out fully if you're in anyway clued in to this space. Ideally, we can hold otu logn enough for some mass adoption.

>>30268424
Bancor + GRT mainly. Some Yax casualy, then a few degen plays on stuf I'm not willing to mention.

>> No.30268930

Dublin is like a more expensive, shittier version of London and London is one of the last places I would ever want to live.

>> No.30268949

>>30268728

You need to get the fuck out of ADA you absolute brainlet.

>> No.30269129

>>30268758
I work in a big US tech company and I can tell you its all lies to make you comfy. We have been reviewing productivity and its down massively in multiple fields. They are gonna start forcing more face to face meetings to engage team members who are afk. Can't start it yet but I can guarantee you will be pulled back into the wage cage over the next two years.

Also HR thots cant use their power while people wfh so they're seething.

>> No.30269139

>>30268780

Yeah you're a confirmed retard. It is absolutely ending soon. There's aroudn 500 a day being vaccinated in st James hospital. Add that to all the dublin hospitals and we'll be pushing close to 180k a month.

You need to stay off the internet. THis isn't some "muh liberal enemy" you're talking to either. I've been in crypto since early 2016, am very conservative, against gay marriage and dont even get me started on the trans movement, but I can already tell you're prob some working class knacker who hangs out on gript.ie for your news sources.

You want to witness COVID pop up to Tallagh hospital at any time. Plenty of outbreaks and ventialtors. I understand the frustration, and I've been telling my mom not to limit herself as it has been too long, but don't start spewing nonsense about BIll gates + all that shite when You're prob early 20s with no prospects and you've been conditioned on the internet.

>> No.30269167

>>30268728
Get a fucking job, you trog. You're putting your pittance into a fucking casino which means you'll be looking at the revenue through the barrel of a shotgun.

>> No.30269307

>>30269129
>over the next two years

Fine by me. My productivity hasn't dropped, and they did say they would let the productive ones stay. It's all considered. Maybe it is all a lie? I don't really care desu, I'm just happy to save any cash I get. I'm doing this crypto shit on the side. I'm still a baby when it comes to this, but I'll get better. Right now, I'll probably take it easy what with the Tether news last week and the American economy shitting itself slowly, we're probably heading into the worst recession yet. Gonna hold onto my dearly earned pennies then.

>> No.30269312

>>30269167
I don't put anything in I can't afford to lose and like I said, I'm not going to put everything I have on one crypto, that'd be stupid. I had a job before COVID kicked off and I'm sure I'll have one again once it all fucks off

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Lads, your cryptos are all ponzis created by the bankers themselves to rob you of your wealth (its not called the great wealth transfer for nothing) Not saying all are bad, some will survive and thrive but most are a dead end hoax.

Theres only one way out of the system and to protect and expand your wealth into the next monetary system, this idea about becoming super rich, forget about it, you need to be thinking of just preserving it.

With cryptos your like lambs being herded into a slaughter pen.

>> No.30269351

>>30267285
fucking based

>> No.30269419

>>30269129
>We have been reviewing productivity and its down massively in multiple fields.
Sounds like a problem with your shit company then. The place I work for made more money and work is getting done just as well as it was before. I even had a direct talk with our CEO and told him I've no interest in coming back into the office with how much time and money I'm saving and he told me he has no interest in bringing people back in either. The only people coming back into the office are sad fucks who apparently need to be forced to do work, the arselickers who want visibility so they can climb up the ladder and younger devs/graduates who need a bit of shadowing to get started. Any tech company that tries to force their staff back into offices 5 days a week are going to see mass departures as people leave for companies with better work/life balance.

>> No.30269447

>>30269319

"Hey, don't buy your deflationary + trustles assetts. Buy my rocks + miner ETF longs that I've had for years"

The only crypto boomers know about is BTC> 97% of crypto holders (normie base) don't have a clue what DeFi is. Get out of here.

>> No.30269494

>>30269307
Not saying I like it but it's what I'm hearing.

I'm all in on crypto as well. Thinking I'm going to try get a job writing smart contracts and gtfo any big tech cuase it's so fukn toxic. Idk how American people deal with their own management. It's literally game of thrones but everyone is little fingers. How any company is functioning I have no idea

>> No.30269497

>>30269419

Absolutely. Its amazing to see the parasites get filtered out. I feel bad for the young bucks though can't jsut walk over to their favourite senior and ask for some help. Oh well. Part of the process really.

>> No.30269824

>>30269497
It's the juniors who will ultimately cause more people in teams to have to come into the office. We were told that at the start of new projects people would have to come in but that's pretty reasonable. Fortunately for me I work in infrastructure and not dev and everything I do is remote anyway, even when I am in an office, so there's literally zero reason for me to be in a confined space. People need to stop being pussies and stand their ground. I've told my boss and our CEO directly that I'd leave if they tried to force me back into an office. I know that doesn't mean shit to them since they'll easily be able to replace me but you would be surprised at how easily people will back down if you tell them what you want and that you're not willing to take anything else for an answer. Of course, do this in a diplomatic way. At the end of the day you're dealing with other human beings who just want to get on with their day without hassle.

>> No.30270087

>>30269139
On the contrary, old chap. Your brief CV was wholly unimpressive, and I'm amused you felt the need to foist it upon me. Also, what has crypto, gay marriage and transgenderism to do with tyrannical corporate takeover under the guise of public health? You switched subjects randomly then. Are you replying to the correct post?
It seems to me you have a bunch of stock answrs you trot out when you're in troll mode. We all know your type, sadly. Have a lovely weekend, won't you? Oh, and stay off the booze. It's not doing you any good.

>> No.30270426

>>30269497
Work for a defense contractor, it’s been a big struggle for us hiring new devs. They keep leaving because they don’t get a chance to know anyone, can’t learn anything because they don’t get face time with anyone.
Company says they plan to continue WFH indefinitely for most employees but no idea how they’ll address this major issue.

>> No.30270458

Irish are supposedly native English speakers. Why are you all barely literate? This thread has a far lower standard of English than the threads on /biz/ the Italians and Spanish make in their second language. We really are a dumb race.

>> No.30270566

>>30267285
kekd

>> No.30270682

>>30269139
>being this brainwashed

>> No.30270684

>>30270458
I don't need good grammar to make money in crypto

>> No.30271591

>>30270426
>They keep leaving because they don’t get a chance to know anyone, can’t learn anything because they don’t get face time with anyone.
I genuinely don't understand this. Group calls and screensharing is a pretty good substitute for physical shadowing and you can get to know people just as well from speaking to them in a call. I joined a new team during lockdown and I've never actually met any of them in person but I get along with them all really well. Maybe it's because I'm a fairly outgoing person and tend to be the one that carries the conversation.

>> No.30271654

>>30270458
>>30270087

post porfolios poorfags lmao

>> No.30271693

>>30271591

Probably. for most its fine, but they are introverted types who need to be walked into a social group. Its hard for some.

>> No.30271725

>>30269494
>I'm all in on crypto as well.

Woah there, cowboy. I never said I went all in. Granted, I put in a lot, but I'm playing it safe. I'll probably take it out and just play with a grand or so.

Yeah, office culture is brutal. I'm doing a course on Accounting and there's a module on HR. Man, HR in the books is a total fantasy to the real thing. Real world is so much more ruthless.

>>30269497
>>30270426
Getting to know new people is tough especially with new hires, or moving into new accounts. I personally have no problem as I have been on the internet since I was 5, so I can get used to not having a face to talk to. That's how I made most of my friends.

>> No.30271740

>>30267092
Living with my mother not paying rent and put every cent of the Covid Pay into Link over the summer, feels good. Also not paying tax, fuck revenue

>> No.30272091

>>30271693
If I had it my way, I wouldn't have to speak to another person ever. I'm not a naturally outgoing person but I think sometimes people take other people at face value far too easily. Most of what people broadcast as their external persona is an act, just something to keep up appearances to make it look like they're following the bullshit arbitrary rules that society has agreed on.

I get that all of the above might seem like an autistic ramble but I feel like juniors and people who claim to be introverts just haven't been shown that the majority of people just want to be left the fuck alone. My biggest wakeup call to this was when I was 22. I met a guy who for his age was a pretty accomplished game producer. On the surface it looked like he had his shit together. He was well dressed, in shape, successful and carried himself in a way that made him feel like he was in control. After an event he asked if I wanted to go out for drinks and I said it wasn't really my sort of thing and that very second it was like he let his guard down and the whole charade fell. He said "thank fucking god, I hate that shit too. My work means I have to wine and dine clients and publishers when all I want to do is lock myself in a room on my own to do what I want". When everyone can admit we're all awkward fucks, then no one is an awkward fuck.

>> No.30272491

>>30267092
Scout about for property all over, be ambitious with your budget and if you're still not interested you're probably better off abroad.

>> No.30272502

>>30270682
IKR? There's always one peabrain on the threads. Sad as fuck on its face, but we're all at different points on our spiritual paths, I'm told.

>> No.30273083

Irish here too. Live about 30 mins from city centre Dublin.

Anyone have any advice for getting away from paying capital gains tax on crypto?
I read that even if you move to a different country of residence you have to pay tax up to 3 years after moving, so I'd literally have to move now to cash out tax free in some crypto tax haven for next bull cycle. I would pay it but 33% is just a bit retarded if you want to make it.
So yeah, any other methods?

>> No.30273261

>>30272091
Amen to that, brother.

>>30273083
>cash out

Oh, did you think you were going to cash out? Oh my child, no. There is no cashing out in this casino.

Honestly, put it into something stable(harhar crypto? stable? yeah I know), like USDC. Then take it out once you got outta this country. I'm tempted myself to simply not report my riches, but I know that's futile. I'll just hold until I leave for Norway.

>> No.30273475

From Dublin as well, I'm also putting everything I have on LINK.
>>30268758
Lol Dublin is grand to live in you retard, Cork/Kerry = SHITHOLE.
>>30268780
Confirmed retard for sure.
>>30268521
Based I'm a theatre nurse are you medical or surgical?

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>>30273261
I wonder, if I set up one of those crypto debit cards under a foreign residence that I'd be staying, would that work?

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>>30267816
I can't post links to reserach papers, it says it's spam. Start here. Literally every single coronavirus vaccine, be it, attenuated virus, vector, or mRNA has historically failed to get out of animal trials, because they work, they provide antibodies, AT FIRST, and then they cause serious autoimmune problems in the kidney and liver later on. How did we solve this problem? We didn't. We just skipped animal trials, indemnified the manufacturers, and removed any doctor who spoke out from his or her post.

>> No.30274291

Irish bro here
Yeah it's a tricky one alright, most likely going to get a car and move out in to the countryside, have around 20k in crypto atm, but most likely going to keep it floating around until there's something decent to take out 33% sucks ass.

>> No.30275241

>>30274109
Most of the research that led to the COVID-19 vaccines came from SARS vaccines and research. Why would one vaccine not have serious after-effects but the new one would? How long is "later on" that the problems show up. We're just about a year on and most trials didn't begin until months into the pandemic so how has there been enough time to show that there are apparently problems but not yet in people who took the vaccine during trials. Those people would be showing serious symptoms by now. You supposed timelines make absolutely no sense.

>> No.30275978

>>30275241
Are you saying that the SARS vaccines didn't have after effects? Um.. They killed the trial animals? And regards, the current roll out, for a start go on VAERS and see the CDC reporting on adverse reactions. Just because it's not being reported doesn't mean it's not there. So yes, you are already seeing serious reactions, certainly a higher percentage of serious adverse reaction than for any other vaccine in history, last time I went on VAERS WONDER (the CDC website) was last week, and it was over 18,000 reported reactions. ALREADY. But the reality of autoimmune disease is it ends to be chronic and have compiling affect over time. Why in God's name are you Stockholm Syndrome simping for an untested mRNA vaccine when you presumably know the actual IFR for the Rona? Do you know what happens to RNA in the presence of reverse transcriptase I wonder? Do you know what intercalation is? Why are you so keen to become a guinea pig, when the virus is no more dangerous than the flu to anyone under seventy?

>> No.30275981

>>30275241
>Why would one vaccine not have serious after-effects but the new one would?

Jesus Christ, lad. I'm no specialist, but the old vaccine is made for a completely different virus. COVID may be similar, but it's in a league of its own now. This means that you'd have to seriously play around with the old vaccine to make it work for the new, mutated offspring of the old virus.

Good thing it isn't killing people in droves.

>> No.30276081

>>30275978
Alright, link all of the evidence of this. Don't try to bullshit me and say it's getting marked as spam, just put the url in with (.) and spaces and it'll go through fine.

>> No.30276199

>>30268190
Thanks bro, probably won't meet up purely because
'How did you die? Oh I met a random man from 4chan for financial advice' but I don't appreciate the post.
Your in 85k a year with that much from crypto alone and still not looking at property well that just makes me feel helpless. But I appreciate it.

>> No.30276326

>>30276199
Kek meant to say I do appreciate it

>> No.30276483

>>30276081
I literally showed you the title of the paper. Just type that in, and start there. Then read the papers it links to. DYOR. I'm just trying to stop you dying.

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>>30275981
>>30275978
>>30275241
>>30274109
>>30267816
>>30267680
>>30268780

Why does every single Brit/Irish thread come down to the same fucking argument about covid? Help the OP out with his finances or fuck off.

>>30267092
You're still young, I'd put in as much as you're willing to loose on crypto (for me 30% of my net worth and salary monthly). Beyond that, don't buy a property until you're 30 and have a better understanding of what you want out of life. Some want to settle in one place, others want to travel. A mortgage will seriously hinder your options by design.

There's a reason governments obsess over home ownership, it's not the houses, it's the mortgages.

>> No.30276573

>>30276081
Oh and regards VAERS, I also literally gave you the web address, VAERS WONDER. So... Again. DYOR.

>> No.30276583

>>30267680
Pay a Paki doctor £500 to squirt it in the sink and tick you off. That's my plan and I've already done this to get signed off of work 2 years ago. 3 month holiday with full pay.

>> No.30276674

Just want to throw in something to an Irish thread for the moment I guess.
26, Unemployed, About 12k In a bank and credit union savings, 15k in Cryptos that I'm killing in massively due to NFT flipping, living at home. Some conversation starters I guess:
>Got a very good undergrad and masters in business subjects but I finished it as the pandemic hit so I've been unemployed for 6 months now. Can anyone throw me a business area for me to look at or any interesting companies? I can do most things well.
>I guess my recent earnings highlighted to me the power of saving as opposed to having money sitting there. What should I be doing with my bank/credit union money? I'm not putting anything else into cryptos. What are you're guys net worth break downs?
>The first three months of this year have been fucking terrible. Haven't seen anyone apart from my parents doing the same shit every day, getting lazier and lazier. How's everyone else doing and how are you breaking the cycle?

>> No.30276709

>>30268870
It's not that bad. Mostly just the odd knackers and druggies, no widespread African gangs yet

>> No.30276761

>>30276483
I've been looking through them before I replied to you and I'm yet to see where the empirical evidence is of autoimmune issues being caused specifically by COVID-19 vaccinations as well as any post clinical trial tests showing this. You've got the evidence of this, just link me the direct paper that shows this. Should be pretty easy to do. Don't reply to me with anything else other than the empirical, peer-reviewed evidence.

>> No.30276831

>>30276709
Thank you based Irishbro, when I make it I'm going to retire in Bundoran and walk my dogs along the pebbled beach in the morning. Hopefully the bicycle rent store is still there so I can buy it from them and chill in my bike shop all day.

>> No.30277035

>>30276831
>Donegal
Should be safe from migrants for some time, they only seem to go to Letterkenny if at all

>> No.30277090

>>30276565
Read up the thread, you stupid cunt. We all shared our advice, now let us share our grievances over not being able to go out for a fucking drink.

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>>30276761
This is an excerpt from the peer reviewed paper I just told you to start with. A paper in Nature, arguably the most prestigious Journal on Earth. Are you being purposefully obtuse?! Please, get the vaccine. Actually. Get six. Get one every day, and twice on Sundays, and may God have mercy on your soul.

>> No.30277412
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>>30277245
Will never please them

>> No.30277769

It sure as fuck sounds like you cunts are afraid to leave your home because its a level 5 lockdown?Just use the country roads and tell the gards you are picking up tractor parts. Works every time

>> No.30277960

>mfw haven't showed up to a college lecture in months unless it's for an assignment
Being free feels so good. Can't wait to go on the dole once I graduate. I only spend like a tenner a week at most anyways so I don't mind being a poorfag as long as I'm free

>> No.30278002

>>30276674
Teach us the magic of NFT flipping anon

>> No.30278036

>>30277960
Learn autocad or qgis and bullshit your way into telecoms. Market there is booming right now

>> No.30278104

>>30268190
Irish bro here too. How do we get around capital gains? 33% over 1,300 is a scam.

>> No.30278280

>>30268903
TELL ME THE DEGEN PLAYS
I have 10k link I need to gamble with

>> No.30278587

>>30277245
That shows there were issues found during a clinical trial for SARS-CoV1 back in 2004 during a stage 1 clinical trial. So you believe that they never actually resolved that, then went on to vaccinate people since 2004 with something that causes liver failure and autoimmune issues and somehow the world just hasn't heard about it? Please correct me where I'm wrong here, where does anything you've shown highlight a correlation between liver damage and autoimmune issues in modern SARS-CoV vaccines?

>> No.30278596

>>30268213
tf is scottish american? Are you atustitic and you like wearing skirts?
frenchfag here

>> No.30278669

>>30267092

Ireland bro here. Sent to the UK for work last March, been sitting pretty paying rent on a house for about 1/5th of the cost it would be in Dublin while I build two houses in Panama on some land I bought while I lived there a few years ago while running my own web business that I later sold. I'm living in one house and renting the other. I own some cattle and grazing land too, and I've worked out a distribution deal with the biggest dairy product producer in the country. Once the houses are done I'm handing in my notice and fucking off for good to trade crypto full time and bang jungle sluts all day.

>> No.30279006

>>30278669
>Irish live in better conditions in the UK than they do in Ireland
How did things get so bad anyway, what went wrong Irishbros?

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>>30278587
What are you talking about now? They never did develop a vaccine for SARS that was safe enough to be rolled out.

>> No.30280076

>>30279107
The technology used in initial trials was obviously carried over, this is why trials proceeded at a faster rate than before the work had been done through the various iterations of SARS-CoV vaccines. Here's an article that's actually recent instead of pulling screenshots from shit that's over a decade old:
thelancet (.) com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)32661-1/fulltext

How is it multiple countries have done multiple tests of multiple variations of vaccines in live studies on humans but no one has found any of the issues you're talking about. A fucking mouse developed issues in 2004 and you seem to think after all the iterations since then, they decided nah fuck it just give it out and hide the evidence of serious side-effects. I'm not even saying that there won't be side effects or that it won't be the direct cause of death for some people, because it will, but to act like the world is being given some scuffed vaccine that's going to damage us all is insane. You've taken one point of data then decided, nah fuck that, which whatever I don't really care if you get it or not but don't try and spread that bullshit to other people.

>> No.30280233

>>30279006

Unironically EU kikes.

>> No.30280489

>>30279006
This place has and always will be based upon absurdity is why. The rest of the world justifiably laughs at our inferior genetics and geo/social dynamics but the sheer dumfoundedness when they find out about us bastardizing evolution to support multi generation welfare families and the scourge that is single motherhood bearing feminized/feral bastard children.

This place has the most aggressive homeless people I've ever seen and I've been all over the world because we fucking pay them to stay retarded. The poor and stupid either die that way, move to somewhere as poor and stupid as them to be facilitated or actually contribute when normal evolution takes place. In Ireland, we have bastard evolution where we give 16 year olds that drop out oif school and go on the creampie national tour a PHAT regular paycheck that they stay a retarded baby factory for life and leads to the audacity to demand a free fucking house.

Dublin is the only decenbt place and particurlaly the south, you're fucked if you carelessly end up in a myriad of council estates though and the northside is hellfire.

None of these economics match up with what the state has and so Ireland begs the EU for more funds and time like a typical lvl 16 ratboi negotiating with an equally shit drug dealer because the concept of making more for yourself with more is lost upon everyone.

I am so glad to be leaving here for-fucking-ever to a hot fucking country when the borders open up where they will leave you to rot as they should and it's your own fucking problem for not succeding.

>> No.30281688

>>30280489
Remember not all of Ireland is Dublin anon.
There are cozy based pockets of the country out there, where I'm heading if I make it.
Dublin is a globohomo stronghold rife with literal retards and degenerates.
Avoid at all costs.

t. Northside Dub

>> No.30282198

>>30278002
>>30058465
This was a thread I was active in explaining it. It's quicker to just go read that.

>> No.30282448

>>30268903

How exposed are you if you're trading on Binance? Surely they can't see that, and CZ isn't gonna give them any help. Is the idea that they can see the address you deposited to on Coinbase, and can then track it to Binance?

Cheers anon, appreciate the help

>> No.30282487

>>30278104
I was thinking of this:
Revenue see cryptocurrency as an asset so you could give divy out crypto to family members, trusted friends etc as gifts and get €3000 tax exemption on Capital Acquisitions Tax. Then they cash out.
Could this work?
Beats the €1300 bullshit anyway

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>>30267092
Why do you guys still hate the English so much but are fine with thousands of Nigerians arriving each year and fucking up your country?

>> No.30282689

>>30268758
Kerry is full.

>> No.30283303

>>30282622
We are far from fine with this anon

>> No.30283601

>>30282487
I am nearly sure you can't do this, like 98%. I looked into it a while back. To some extent, it makes sense that you can't do this, because otherwise you could literally cash out as much money as you have friends (3k multiplied by, say, 100 family + friends, gives you 300k) and you can exploit it even harder if you wanted.

Revenue is getting their fucking money one way or the other

>> No.30283870

>Spaniard doing his PhD in Ireland here.

Irish bros, I love your country, people here made me feel great.

However, becoming a doctor in this country is hell. I get paid way below the poverty line and I am still considered a student. On top of that you cannot apply for stuff like bike to work because PhD salaries are tax free (thank god). I don't have health insurance, I have to cycle everywhere because the transport is crap and I cannot afford a car and I pay a stupid amount of money to live in an overcrowded apartment.

I am cashing out when I return to my home country, where I am still registered as a resident. I wish I come back in the future if the situation is any better.

>> No.30284190

>>30283601
If you were a big enough fish they would definitely fuck you.
Might get away with a small 5 fig cash out though...

>> No.30285156

>>30282487
This 100% will not work. If you gift someone an asset you still pay capital gains tax, unless you die.

>> No.30285292

>>30282689
>Kerry is full.
Based.

For Dubliniggers it is anyway.

>> No.30285776

>>30273475

Surg. Based in Dublin hospitals. Botu as far as I'm willing to talk. If you think you see me come up to me from behind and whisper "Bless Sergey" and I'll know its you.

>>30281688

Not all of Dublin. The expensive areas of south dub are a world of their own. I've lived in south dub all my life, went to a private school, medicine at uni etc yada yada all the stuff "real dubs" love to give out about. But its way different, there's no flaming queers walking around. Any minority is well off + a well adjsuted citizen in a very respectable job. You get a few south dublin basic bimbos who are all "BLM" but they pretty much get ignored by any and all men in south dub (being that most are very fiscally conservative). If you have cash you should move down here; there's some lovely spots aroudn Terenure/ Rathfarnham/ Rathgar which are south Dublin but not so posh in the sense like Aylesbury/ Dalkey/ Killiney etc.

Re taxwise idk; I just hope it stays under the radar desu.

>> No.30286033

>>30282622

Typical silent majority. The only ones who post for it are status signalling online; many of the working class nationalist/ right wing type are made an example of to steer any level headed person away from conservative views, but they are very much here amongst pretty much any straight male >24 in Ireland.

The Nigerian lads go 1 of 3 ways. They either adjust and become a standup citizen and are Irish but just black. You get the harmless ones trying to make it on the slo n b/ lofi hiphop scene, and then you get the ones from blanch etc who think they're top boy.

>> No.30286466

>>30286033
What the ratio of good / cookie-cutter / dickhead when it comes to Nigerians in Ireland?

>> No.30286810

>>30283870
Sorry Fernando. I don't think the situation is gonna get any better.

You only get the real bucks when you have the diploma. Until then, you're just a shitrag thrown in the sewage and expected to survive until you get your paper. Last I heard, that's the situation in most places. A shame, really.


The housing situation is gonna become Britain levels of shit and eventually the whole isle will sink under from the massive hoard of gold that the boomer niggers are hiding to themselves from sucking the blood out of the young and hopeful. This will only get worse.

Transportation-wise it is getting better. Nowhere near the European standard. This country is still stuck in the 80's when it comes to that shit. Buses never leave or arrive on time, and the Luas is a sardine can.

Is Spain nice? My cousin lived there for a while. She never told me what it was like, but I always expected it to be nice.

>> No.30286944

>>30286466
I would say 3:3:1. At least for Cork anyway. Dublin it's probably 1:1:5 kek

>> No.30286993

>>30271740
>>30282487
Can we just move to Germany or Portugal for a year and get residency?

>> No.30287238

>>30267285
FPBP

>> No.30287298

>>30268213
theres always that one mutt

>> No.30287583

>>30286033
Lmao this nigger pure retard juice.

>> No.30287627

My two options right now are moving back to NYC while the apartments are half of what they used to be or using my fancy new dual citizenship Irish passport and going there. What do I do Bros?

>> No.30287985

>>30280076
I'm starting to think you are actually a genetically engineered Cyber Cuck sent back in time by your wife's many boyfriends just to fuck with me. This is the fourth time I've proved you wrong so you moved the goalposts AGAIN. So please, as I said, go have the mRNA gene therapy that couldn't get through animal trials injected right up your ass. BUT for those of my blood, of my soil, with the ability to critically think, I would implore you to go to VAERS WONDER and see for yourself, it's not safe, the data shows that, the TV is lying to you, when was it ever not?

>> No.30288183

>>30282622
Sinn Fein's policy is "Brits out, blacks in!"

>> No.30288211

>>30286944
Based and checked

>> No.30288389

>>30287627
If you want to eat food that isn't cultivated in a murder factory, isn't laced with carcinogens, or pumped full of corn syrup, then come here. Maybe if you eat something proper you won't develop a bone illness, like you would from eating cum slop and refried beans.

Tax here isn't as bad as NYC, so that would be a change. And we have something called Minimum Wage, something your kind isn't accustomed to from what I heard. So you'll afford something here sooner than you would in that kike hellhole.

Just try to hide your accent. No one will take you seriously and they will probably hate you.

>> No.30288673

>>30285776
From the northside it looks like South Dublin is crawling with BLM virtue signaling faggots, the UCD and Trinity types, both normies and full on degenerate trannys.
Aul ones seem a lot more based though.
Anywhere cozy over there with reasonably sized housing for the price? Somewhere further out,
Couldn't be paying ~1M for shitty terraced housing in Rathgar, Terenure and the likes

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>>30267680
>F+Ck

>> No.30289421

>>30287985
Based answers, anon. Cheers. I'll be looking

>> No.30290107

>>30288673

Yeah, but like I said, the vast amount of UCD + trinity types who are in any way masculine are conservative. Its the loud as fuck ones who do all that. Then people graduate, start working, and realsie in their time off they dotn want to be berated into why they are unconsciously racist or transphoic or whatever. Anyone in a good job beecomes conservative once they start making money. The consultants I work with are hilariously racist/ classist. Its quite funny.

Could look southwest. Templeogue is a nice balance; I'm not particularly mad about the area but its cosy. Like I said, you're prob fine where you are. Just if you make it off crypto, its absolutely worth it to come to South Dublin. Different life.

>> No.30290161

Alright lads, 10k LINK + 5k BNT holder checking in. Regarding cashing out, just cashing out straight into your bank account is retarded, if you have a balance of thousands and suddenly pull out hundreds of thousands into it will trigger alarms at the bank and you will100% be subject to an investigation by revenue, be prepared to fined + taxed.
Has anyone considered just getting a few crypto debit cards and making a weekly trip to belfast? Bitwala allows for 3k a day to be withdrawn, if you spent saturday and sunday up there thats 6k and if you had a few smaller cards you could probably get to 10k in a weekend easy enough. This leaves you with the problem of getting the cash into your bank account, but as recreational gambling isn't taxed you could just pop into a casino in dublin convert money to chips and back again a couple hours later, collect your slip to show the tax man if he asks and boom, clean money in your bank account. Obviously this is pretty slow, but if you were only looking to cash out a portion it would be easy enough.

>> No.30290766

>>30267092
Irish anons, what’s the job market like in Ireland? I’m gonna be getting my citizenship soon and I’m looking at moving there from the US. Got any recs?

>> No.30290929

>>30290161

Surely the slip shows your initial fiat --> chips transfer? Even if it didn't, you couldn't be clearing 10k in casinos every weekend. Anyone with a brain would realise whats going on. Could def do it for small amounts though. it would absolutelya ffect yoru ability to get amortgage if thats your plan; the lenders are crazy strict now with their requirements.

>> No.30291005

>>30282448
Bumping this for doctor anon

>> No.30291033

>>30290161

Just looked. Bitwala is kyc so thats a no go.

>> No.30291300

>>30291005
>>30282448

Sorry I missed this. I would imagine revenue contacts all major cexes for any irish users (confirmed via kyc). Revenue then contacts these irish users saying Hi X you have used exchange Y in the past. Please rpeort any gains or losses to revenue.

They COULD push for the reports, but CZ + BRian are way too fucking busy. Still though.

Dexes are clean except for you entry + exits off cexes. Tornado cash/ monero are like blind targets. They cant see anything, but you only use tornado/ monero for one purpose, so whiel they cant see what you're doing, they "know" what you;re doing.

Again this implies the revenue arm is defi ltierate (its not) and has the time to ask users. Its fairly simple for a user to simply lose their keys and not be able to pay; revenue can scream bloody murder and the user will fuck off to somewhere else where there is a double tax treaty. A simple 33% haircut sucks but isnt the worst. If it dropped to 20% I'd gladly pay, but that'll never happen.

You need to get off cexes anon.

>> No.30291310

>>30269319
i say go for both

>> No.30291388

>>30278104
Move
T. Me

>> No.30291775

>>30291300
Okay, so cexes are no go. So shit like Uniswap then? Man, that fucking sucks. The gas fees are like a bite to the cock.

Like you said, you still need to enter with fiat and leave with fiat in the end, so what do you propose to avoid the tax?

>> No.30292088

>>30290929
yeah it might but just play a couple hands of blackjack and come away with +- a few percent of your initial, I'm not sure whether it's only earnings above your initial that are tax free or not, obviously if that is the case then this plan is no good. KYC isn't such a factor if you cash out of northern atms, I don't think there is the same level of co-operation between NI banks and revenue as there would be between ROI banks and revenue. Bitwala are German, so it would require an EU - UK - EU chain of reporting which seems a bit excessive for amounts that can be drawn from an atm?

>> No.30292833

>>30291775

yes, which is why many are complaining. Just pop it on Bancor or a yield agg and let whales use your money to play whale games while you make 12-25% APY until arbitrum comes out. Bancor will have arbitrum very soon so you wont have to wait much longer. lol you don't avoid Tax, thats a sure fireway to get whipped.

Main options are cash out abroad (>3 years or you're fine if no doubel tax treaty). You should seek out isle of mann, I've heard things there.

>>30292088
You're very much right about that EU --> UK --> EU, however I wonder if revenue simply place the burden of acountability on you to report it. I will always stay in crypto though, I'm literally never selling all my LINK.

I tell ya, a decent crypto accountatn would be worth their weight in gold. Shame we dont have some forum where we can recommend these things.

>> No.30293679

>>30292833
>You should seek out isle of mann, I've heard things there.

Yooooooooooo

Wait. So if I were to create a company and register it in the Isle of Man, I could do crypto in the company's name? Right? I mean, I can't get a British Citizenship so I can't do it as a citizen, and moving there would require me to pay for other bullshit.

Is there something I'm missing here? I'm not very skilled in all of this, but 33% tax can suck my fucking nuts.

>> No.30294255

>>30293679

Not that easy afaik. I'm not sure about the instituional/ company side of it, but as an individual you have to do thge usual >183 days of the year there tec. Which desu would be fine. Go over there for 3.5 days of the week, spend the odd extra day there, come back home and enjoy the weekends. I've worked in isle of mann before, its nice + they have class moto racing/ bike racing.

You're gonna have to pay someone tax somewhere down the line anon. You always want SOME semblance of a paper trail to show the big baddies when they come knocking eventually.

Could also hope for mass adoption and pray people more infuential than you lobby for certain tax policies. As far as crypto hedge funds, its not as simple as "I have money lemme play". You need the usual legal + accounting requirements + investment thesis etc and you have responsibilites for your investors, so you cant degen play + ape calls etc. You need to justify every move you make, rather than doing it on pure instinct etc.

>> No.30294463

33% CGT tax is fucking retarded considering Fine Gael let Apple just walk off and assisted them with 15 bil

I know that 15 bil wasn't fully ours but still, why the fuck should I pay 33% of money I risked while multinationals can pay fuck all?

I'd have no problem paying like 20% and if our gov actually had fucking balls and wasn't a cuck to big business but fucking hell 33% while we're a tax haven for big business can suck my balls, I'm moving out of here for a few years and coming back or something

>> No.30294796

I barely have 10k to my name I need my coins to start doin sum

>> No.30295005

>>30294255
I don't mean an actual company, anon. That would require effort and actual business acumen. I meant a fake company that no one would look into. Something to launder money into lol

So the tax exemptions are for residents and not necessarily citizens? So I can just live there, work there, and enjoy 10% income tax and play around with any crypto I want? Sweet, now comes the trouble of actually finding work on a tiny as shit island.

>> No.30295135

>>30294796
Hey man, I don't even have 6k to my name. Then again, I started from 0 last year. WAGMI

>> No.30295372

What would be stopping a gentleman from setting up a Revolut and CoinBase account for your family and just sending USDC to their CoinBase from your own wallet?

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>>30294796
go all in on COTI, like me, and thank me later, anon

>> No.30295858

>>30295554
based, jews will buy me a house

>> No.30295905

>>30294463

I have been in contact with numerous solicitors abotu setting up a hedge fund down the line. I'm not looking to secure clients etc. It would jsut be a way of me being able to do what I do, and use the company assets as leverage for my life. It would be cosnervative (lol in crypto) whilst I would still have my own person degen-defi stack to play with which I would be liable for 33% on.

There is no one in this coutnry who has a clue. I soke with someone for 400 an hour and I had to explain what DeFi was. I left after 30 mins and told her to educate herself. Disgraceful. But yeah, the multinationals getting tonnes of treatment vs the individual getting shafted is literally Ireland to a tee. You want to become an instituion basically. I have no idea how much powder you need for that.

>>30295005
>>30295135

yeah, but desu, I wouldnt bother doing anything for 6k. All this would only be worthwhiel when you're 7 figs, or high 6 figs if youve got a solid gameplan. All this effort for a couple of grand, even 5 figures, just isn't worth it.

>>30295372
Revolut is registered with the UK. Coinbase can report on Irish kyc'd individuals. Those people who are withdrawing from coinbase into their account will have questions raised, unless its teeny, at which point you're taking on unecessary risk.

Any legal finance people in here who know anyhting? Ill pay consulting fees or whatever you charge.

>> No.30296021

>>30295372
Revolut and Coinbase would turn you over to revenue in a heartbeat in a moment if they were asked. The problem is that all these transactions are logged anon, if crypto does gain mainstream acceptance its not beyond the realm of possibility that reveune or some future digital currency regulator will actually contact exchanges asking for your information and you'll be in a serious bind then.

>> No.30296226

>>30267816
There is zero reason for this lockdown bullshit, idiot. They can end ALL of it right now, but they're not, they only keep extending it with no exit plan.

Fucking authoritarian shithole full of brainwashed retards who don't know you can have an opinion outside of what's on RTE.

I left two months ago and don't plan on living there again. Certainly don't want to give 33% of my gains to the evil psychopaths that are running the country.

>> No.30296503

>>30295905
That's not the point. 4 figs is all I got, but I need a plan for when I have more than that.

>> No.30296749

Lad,

34 year old fellow Irishman here. Bought my own apartment for cash two years ago (no debt). If you're saving for a deposit, you might want to reconsider. Pretty much every young normie is doing the same at the moment. Blindly follow the herd at your peril.

If you really are tired of living in some shitty run down studio apartment and are fed up paying the ridiculous rent, set your target for a much shorter term mortage (like no more than 10 years, have a plan to pay it off early, etc).

Whatever you do, don't leave 10s of thousands of your hard earned cash in a current account for years. Get your money working for you, put it into an index fund or crypto. If you're a total normie when it comes to investing, talk to a ((financial advisor))). They won't ever make you wealthy (if they knew how to do that, they wouldn't be working as finanical advisors for normies). Think of them more like accountants for your money.

>> No.30297510

>>30267092

Dub here. Keep at it young fella and it'll come good.

COTI, ETH and OCEAN for me.

>> No.30297814

>>30296226
Where did you move anon? I need to find somewhere more free. I am not temperamentally suited for slavery.

>> No.30297878

>>30297510
Is everyone in Ireland in COTI? Lmfao

>> No.30297943

>>30297878
Unironically bearish as fuck for COTI
Irish people are meant to be impoverished peasants

>> No.30298805

>>30297814
I'm in Mexico. No test needed to enter and they're relaxed when it comes to COVID compared to other countries. I'm enjoying the nature, weather and food. I feel safe here (some parts definitely not safe, but I just don't go to those places). I also speak some Spanish already so it seemed like a good choice. Not sure what I'll do long term but I'm happy here for now.

>> No.30300551

>>30297510
I'm also a Dub in Coti
WAGMI

>> No.30301546

Do any tax havens exist? Should I have been using monero?

>> No.30302484

23 here, worked as software dev in Dublin, over 100k in crypto. Currently living with parents till normality returns.

I'm moving to Portugal since I can basically go the rest of my career without being in an office or having to be physically located where the company I'm working for is (thank you covid). Going to apply for NHR tax scheme which gives 20% flat income tax for my first 10 years as a resident, and currently there is zero CGT on crypto in Portugal, though that might change any year now.