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30221613 No.30221613 [Reply] [Original]

im pretty sure everything peaked a couple weeks ago and now its all coming down
prove me wrong

>> No.30221889

>>30221613
people said this in march 2020 and yet here we are

>> No.30221895

>>30221613
I hate this Bear so fucking much

>> No.30222038

>>30221613
Nobody can prove you wrong OR right. Anyone saying that they know for sure is lying.

>> No.30222120

>>30222038
But YOU can?
No, because you're a liar.

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>>30221895

>> No.30222287

>>30221613
money go up it is then

>> No.30222330

>>30222120
Never said I could, retard.

>> No.30222331

>>30222120
Sneed

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>>30221613
We can't, you're 100% correct.

>> No.30222481

>>30222371
im serious though.
both stocks and crypto look like they peaked ~ 2 weeks ago and theyre coming down.
id like to see explanations as to why i may be wrong

>> No.30222506

>>30222210
Please die in a car crash boboob

>> No.30223872

I'm sure op either shorted something, or wants to get in in something.

I got out two weeks ago when I thought it was the peak, haven't gone back in and I'm losing some of my profit, I'm looking for a point to get in.

>> No.30224015

>>30221613
Can't but it is fucking amazing to me that when the market goes down AT ALL (the end is nigh!!. Goes up a bit...100k EOM. This is why we cannot have nice things. LIke flippin' goldfish.

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Yeah I shorted the market, how could you tell

>> No.30224160

>>30224015
im not talking just crypto
look at stocks

>> No.30224248

>>30223872
You and me both anon. I pulled out 150% of my initial investment and so only have a little left to play around with, keep going back and forth on whether I should throw more back in or just play with the remaining profits

>> No.30224265

>>30221613
feds still printing money.

>> No.30224313

>lookintobitcoin dot com
>Pi cycle top indicator

>> No.30224391

>>30221613
I dumped everything into ERX GUSH and SOXS

>> No.30224396

>>30224313
ok, explain stock market

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>>30224396
Apparently this number is bad and means all the institutions pull their money out of other assists causing a big downturn. I don’t know much about the stock market but this seems to be the consensus: the lower interest rates are, the more of their money the big wall st investment firms decide it’s worth the higher risk to put their money in stocks, for a higher return. But when bond interest rates get too high, it becomes too good of a sure thing to not put their money safely, for a little less return, into the bonds. On top of that, when interest rates are higher, it’s more expensive for companies to borrow money, which means they have less money to spend on their businesses, which is bullish for their stock price.

That’s my understanding.

>> No.30225294

>>30225166
I mean bearish for their stock price.

As for what makes interest rates go up and down, that’s even more complicated and I don’t really know.

>> No.30225513

>>30225166
so basically we've peaked

>> No.30225560

>>30221613
i dont get the bear? why is he happy bar go down?

>> No.30225655

>>30225560
maybe bear happy when bar go down because bear did the thing where bar go down his money go up

>> No.30225887

>>30225655
explain

>> No.30225982

>>30222222

>> No.30226053

>>30225887
theres this thing called short selling

>> No.30226058

>>30225513
In stocks, it seems that way. In btc, the technical indicators seem to say we’re still in the middle of this bull run and 100-200k is definitely on the table at some point this year, but no idea how long til that happens or how low it will get first. Seems to me that it won’t go below 40k again but idk.

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>>30221895
leave this to me anon

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30226267

literally just spamming this everywhere so when my porfolio is worth zimbabwe dollars i'll be able to look at memes

>> No.30226284

>>30222481
Only midwits think that stocks are correlated to crypto. They are not, except maybe in the super short term. So go ahead and try to scalp based on muh treasury yields.

>> No.30226696

>>30226284
I’m hoping crypto based companies stay closely correlated to the price of btc rather than the wider stock market, as I’m currently treating RIOT options basically like options on btc. Hope I don’t miss out if btc soars but riot doesn’t.

>> No.30227139

>>30226267
>mfw every financial crash of the last 40+ years was during republican control

>> No.30227476

>>30227139
Obama
Clinton
Carter
Wilson

You're an idiot

>> No.30227982

>>30227139
>stuck in the 2-party dichotomy
NGMI

>> No.30228014

just joined mantradao cream, wdyt about it? all the DeFi benefits like staking/lp/governance open

>> No.30228082

>>30227476
>obama inherits Bush mess
>clinton lol ok faggot, all green
>Carter was beyond 40 years
>Wilson beyond 40 years too

>> No.30228188

>>30226058
You're stupid as fuck...most technical indicators show the peak of the cycle...only RHODL has some delusional market peak.

>> No.30228492

>>30228188
>most technical indicators show the peak of the cycle
No they dont:
https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/mvrv-zscore/
https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/bitcoin-investor-tool/
https://decentrader.com/charts/rhodl-ratio/
https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/pi-cycle-top-indicator/
https://www.blockchaincenter.net/bitcoin-rainbow-chart/
https://www.lookintobitcoin.com/charts/stock-to-flow-model/
https://digitalik.net/btc/sma1458

I don't see a single one of those meme tea-leaf indicators saying we've reached the top. Not a one. What are you looking at?

>> No.30228696

>>30228188
This:
>>30228492

>> No.30229252

>>30224265
this, the market will go down then shoot way the fuck back up just from hyperinflation. I mean, it's cool and all but people thinking this is the top are retarded, just wait a few years and we will see people talking about $10k stocks like they are $50

>> No.30229514

10 year bond yields were at 3 2 years ago why are people freaking out

>> No.30229929

>>30228492
is this even safe to rely on? if yes, very comfy

>> No.30229997

I WISH IT WAS THE BEAR MARKET SO I CAN BUY CHEAP LINK ETH AND BTC BUT I KNOW SHIT IS GOING TO SHOOT RIGHT UP!

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when will you guys buy back in? got 80k liquid right now still about 40k in stocks but ''value'' stonks with good dividends

>> No.30230134

>>30221889
People said this in June 2017.

>> No.30230223

>>30229929
Not really. Nothing is safe in crypto. But when none of the indicators say we've hit peak stupid (except public sentiment and Lindsay Lohan talking crypto) you probably shouldn't be too quick to sell.

>> No.30230452

>>30228082
>left boot, right boot
The FED is buying assets outright these days. Member banks are owning stocks, and trading them, and holding the loans and savings for the local businesses at the same time.
Free peasants at the moment, headed toward subjects unless we change.

>> No.30230559

>>30230033
irrational pattern, the event in 2020 was non-standard pullback. Though we're now in a recession, since the coastal states have fucked everyone locking down forever.

>> No.30230647

>>30228492
we haven't reached a macro cycle peak but the weekly is gonna crab down for at least a month

>> No.30230684

>>30230033
>w-w-what happened to previous resistance becomes new s-support, anon?

>> No.30230702

>>30229929
>>30228492
not comfy. all of those graphs say that we're within inches of peaking

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I always short the market because I use it as a hedge against long stock positions.

So idc. I just lose money if both crabs hard.

>> No.30230840

>>30230033
BEHOLD! THE MAGICAL LINES HAVE SPOKEN!

>> No.30230953

>>30228082
You do realize the "bush mess" that caused a crash was in fact started by Clinton right?

You can't take a time bomb that was set to go off in 10 second and then say the guy who held it at 2 seconds caused the explosion.

>> No.30230958

>>30226284
only midwits think crypto isn't about to crash as quickly as it rose

>> No.30230988

>>30228188
Maybe we are maybe we aren't. If it drops it will most likely come back up again at some point. Unless you need your money to be cash right now, just leave what you don't need and chill the fuck out. t. shitcoiner

>> No.30231072

>>30221613
time will prove you wrong

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>> No.30231162

>>30231072
how much time? sure everything might be up again 5 or 10 years

>> No.30231224

>>30231159
this makes a lot of sense, imagine something like this for /wsb

>> No.30231312

NOBODY KNOWS THE FUTURE AHHH

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>>30231159
That's GME influenced not bitcoin influenced

>> No.30232098

>>30231789
Yes, but it all plays in together. Why do you think crypto had such an explosive month in feb? It wasn't just tesla.

>> No.30232242

>>30225655
clever bear. Learn make money when bar go down. can make money no matter what way bar go.

>> No.30232427

>>30231159
>>30232098

>oh no the gme newfaggotry is coming to an end and the entire bull market with it
seriously kill yourself

>> No.30232499

>>30230702
I know... I had planned to punch out mid-March, but either got front-run by smarter fools or am still ahead of myself and the best is yet to come. Always safer to hold: time in the market and whatever...

>> No.30232536 [DELETED] 

>>30221613
FUCK KIKES FUCK NIGGERS FUCK JANNIES
https:// discord gg/sSZf8aMAfk

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>>30221613
I fell for it in Winter 2018, I fell for it again in March 2020. If I get fooled again, I deserve to lose my money. NOT FUCKING SELLING. FUCK BOBO.

>> No.30233131

>>30226284
Are you stupid or deluded?

>> No.30233233

/me whispers *bonds* in your bear ears

>> No.30234479

>>30230559
it wanted to go lower. corona is just an excuse for weaknesses that are already in the system like the repo crisis, both were happening at the same time and the fed "fixed" it temporarily. anytime it kicks the can down the road it just creates more distortions and the potential for a bigger crisis.

>> No.30234892

>>30232614
Sell stocks, HODL crypto