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30173612 No.30173612 [Reply] [Original]

>pays you to trade

>> No.30173660

>>30173612
Delete this

>> No.30173700

no taker will ever use this

>> No.30173783

>>30173700
Nice cope.

>> No.30175162

No one wants to let the normies in still.
No clue why though.
Too many people that come to this place are greedy af and they'll get justed because they won't sell at appropriate times.
Fear not. They'll get their just desserts.

>> No.30175250

>>30175162
I guess they want the normies to be support after we moon so we can go even higher... These retards are getting too greedy.

>> No.30175505
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30175505

>>30175250
It's like the think retail is what pumps this coin and not institutional adoption.
LPs are important, morans. We don't need retail to make this big. You're waiting for the wrong egg to hatch.

>> No.30175771

>>30175505
I don't understand why they are still fudding. Xsn has been sub $1 for three fucking years. It's time to let them in.

>> No.30175803

Devs are getting lazier as time goes by,buy at your own risk

>> No.30175865

>>30175771
what do u mean let them in the doors are wide open uve been shilling on biz for over a year and it never pumps to anything higher than 30 cents

>> No.30175869

>>30175803
Actually kill yourself. Why the fuck are you still fudding this project after 3 years? The devs have been doing more work than ever. They are doing multiple things simultaneously including those LP partnerships.

>> No.30175885
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30175885

>>30175803
There's an asteroid coming to kill us all in five thousand years.
Make sure you don't buy XSN. You might die.

>> No.30175947

>>30175865
>shilling on /biz/
It has hardly shilled. Nothing compared to the chainlink shilling or even the fucking rubic shilling. Instead we have had a massive fud campaign that needs to end.
>posw scam
>dash fork
>ben wang
>blah blah blah
>>30175885
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.30175949
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30175949

>>30175865
>ATH unironically over 0.7

>> No.30176377

>>30175865
>sub 100 mil marketcap
>ath was 88cents
>last high was 70 cents
Anon...

>> No.30176440

>>30175162
>just desserts
Like, lemon meringue? Cherry cobbler? Sounds good to me.

>> No.30177007

>>30176377
biz doesnt care about market cap they care about whats just pumped 200% this thing doesnt pump biz wont buy

>> No.30177495

>>30177007
This shit is going to pump thousands of percentage upwards after dex release.... /Biz/ can go fuck themselves, fucking retards

>> No.30177823

>>30177495
God I hope so. I have been accumating for three years and have 9 masternodes. Unfortunately the universe likes to fuck with me so this will likely continue to do nothing and I will continue to be poor.

>> No.30177915

>>30177823
Did you see the bitfinex tweet earlier?
https://mobile.twitter.com/paoloardoino/status/1367232407347331083

If you know you know.

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30178730

bump, come on guys dont be shy

>> No.30179224

>>30173612
>>30177915
Delete this I'm not done accumulating. I'm a few k away from 14 masternodes. I want 15 before we moon.

>> No.30180006

>>30179224
Based. Only at 12 nodes myself. Can no longer buy.

>> No.30181292

>>30173612
???

>> No.30181446

>>30175505
this is very pajeet tier
when they say 50 usd x XSN

>> No.30181618

The reason this doesn't pump is because nobody is selling. Have you seen the orderbooks? Only maybe a couple million for sale. Over 90% of all XSN is in a masternode or already staking

>> No.30181796

>>30175869
>LP partnerships.
what is lp?

>> No.30182008

>>30181796
Liquidity provider

>> No.30182255

>>30173612

Useless.

Guys your review about Mochimo?

>> No.30182475

>>30182255
Checked your a faggot and so is shitchimo

>> No.30183350

>>30182255
>Mochimo
who is Mochimo

>> No.30183609

>>30181618
>high demand
>low supply
>price stays low
price is low because nobody is buying

>> No.30183667

>>30175869
Maybe because it's incredibly easy?

Your devs have done nothing of note for 3 years, and are still clinging to state channel layer 2 solutions which do not scale. Sure maybe, you could have 100 or so people trading on the dex with some micro amount. But the lightning network will never allow for millions of daily traders per day, so it's all kinda pointless. Very easy to see why people hate this project. Because the shills are so incredibly stupid and don't want to admit that the team has chosen to go down the wrong path for layer 2.

Also, the X9 team is not developing any layer 2 system on their own. So they're entirely reliant on lightning and connext updates. One bug, or may bugs, found in those two projects halts the entire process. Not that any of that matters though, because state channel layer 2 systems will never on board millions of users.

>> No.30183720

>>30181618
The biggest fud for XSN is that the supporters are always saying retarded stuff like this

>> No.30183824

>>30183667
Could you explain what “state channel layer 2” is and why it can’t scale?

>> No.30183974

What's this about the rumor connext turned out to be another Raiden and the team in going with yet another solution? We'll never get to, hydra at this rate. Why can't x9 code worth a shit? Always chasing after failed projects to implement in their failed projects.

>> No.30184224

>>30183974
Where did you hear that?

>> No.30184337

>>30173612
0 clue. Just like people seem to not know about ALEPH

>> No.30184595

>>30175803
never selling

>> No.30185015

>>30181292
Took at the taker/makers fee strcuture.
>>30181618
True, I guess we need that dex + buyback/burn function. Although with a good product and hype people will buy our bags at a premium.
>>30183667
>nothing of note
Yeah let's just ignore everything they have delivered on in the last 3 years. Kys faggot.
>>30183974
That's fud....... come on anon, everyone is using connext now.

>> No.30186148

>>30175162
Normies think that XSN is only needed for creating masternodes. What they don't know is that XSN can also be used for smart contracts, token creation, and dApps.

>> No.30187173

>>30186148
Soon

>> No.30187241

Delete this thread immediately. Shill campaign does not resume until DEX and $10.

>> No.30187327

>>30186148
So basically dash but also the eth killer plus defi. I can't believe it's not at least $100k usd per token by now good golly what an ambitious project!

>> No.30187364

>>30183667
>state channel layer 2 systems will never onboard millions of users
Capped see you soon mate

>> No.30188454

>>30183824
You should do some very basic reading to get a grasp of what state channels are.

My biggest concern about state channels not scaling is quite simple. For one, say you had 1million open channels (which will never happen anyway, but still) and all those channels try to close at the one time. The BTC blockchain would never be able to process all those transactions,and people would be left with unsecured funds. There's no real way to stop this, if you make a minimum closing/opening time on the channels, then you're taking away the ability for users to control their funds. So it's a bit shit.

The other is the micro payment system. Transactions on state channels are designed for minute transactions. There is a high frequency of failed transactions right now due to low liquidity in nodes. This will eventually lead to the even greater centralization of LN nodes. Where 1 or 2 will essentially hold the majority of liquidity. This is happening now, with hardly any users. Imagine what it will be like in the future. You also have the problem of LN transactions needed to be built up instantaneously. So every time there is a transaction, the LN node has to calculate the balances. This is a massive task if there is many nodes/users. The computer hardware required for this will be no small feat. Not saying it's for plebs anyway, but again. You're going to stop the little guy from running a node, so the big players can run one on their server. Essentially like BSC is just now. To get speed, you have to reduce decentralization. BTC maxis don't like that.

>>30187364
You'll be saying the same stuff in a year. The lightning network gets taken out of context all the time from Stakenet shills. Sure, you'll have infinite transactions and little to zero fees, between a few users. Very good. I'll be able to send $1 back and forth to another dude 3 zillion times a second. But you'll never have 1 million dudes sending $1 back and forth, LN doesn't allow for it.

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>>30188454
Imagine typing that wall of fud know one is going to read. Stakenet fudders seething.

>> No.30188497

No implications, it will never be released

>> No.30189347

>>30187327
It cannot be an ambitious project because the features I mentioned has always been technically possible. It can be done. For normies who are reading this: the developers are fucking serious. If you get left behind then prepare to blame it on yourself.

>> No.30189911

>>30189347
I think the most interesting part is the dex. Nothing has been done like this before.

>> No.30189923

if they pay the maker it's because the taker has to pay it. Now I ask you, why would you use a platform that charges you 0.75% when most don't even charge 0.1?

>> No.30190009

Tell me why 10k per XSN isn't FUD

>> No.30190094
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>>30189923
All platforms have trading fees. You will be the fee on other exchanges for both the taker/maker. In stakenet dex you get the advantage of

>no gas fees (once funds are on layer 2)
>privacy (layer 2 + tor)
>control of your assets (your keys nigga)
>maker/taker fees (good incentive for traders)
>liquidity providing

This shit is from the next dimension. Cexs and other dexs don't stand a fucking chance.

>> No.30190218

scamcoin
fuck off Draper and your rag tag scamteam

>> No.30190360

>>30190094
once funds are on layer? so for every trade?

>> No.30190377

>>30190360
Once your funds are on layer 2 you can do as many trades as you like.

>> No.30190554

>>30189911
>the most interesting part is the dex
That's FUD.

>> No.30190573

>>30190554
I know.

>> No.30192103

I can't even figure out how to get the little xsn I have in the litewallet out. Opened channels and everything, it's just sitting in an open channel off chain and says I can't swap to BTC

>> No.30192436

>>30185015
>Yeah let's just ignore everything they have delivered on in the last 3 years. Kys faggot.
Such as? As far as I'm aware, everything they've managed to do in last three years is miss every single roadmap goal.
The dex and hydra was supposed to be out 2018, lmao.

>> No.30192891

I've honestly already lost hope of anything of note happening with XSN.

I've resigned to losing the money I've locked into my 2 MNs.

>> No.30193613

>>30192891
How long have you been holding?

>> No.30193682

>>30193613
2 years

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>>30193682
Hahahaha me too brother. There's a lot of dev asslickers ready to defend the honor of the devs but what I'm seeing is the same shit for last long while. They keep talking about new features being added on and about SOON.tm but there still has been no release. I remember when there was talk not too long ago about a release in December 2020 and before that.

I'm confident the bull market for alts is still just beginning so if I still feel uncertain about the future of xsn I'm gonna sell my two MNs and pivot into some promising defi. I can't be bothered in staying with vaporware broken promises.

>> No.30194429

>>30173612
kek well dhedge pays you to just let their managers take care of your trades. probably better for idiots

>> No.30195106

In a moment, some new DEX will appear around the corner to wipe out that crappy Soonnet. It will be the same as staking from ledger. They fucked about being the first and after 3 years that shit doesn't even work where others have it. It will be the same with DEX. These are code stickers who only put together what others have done. DyDyX will even add BTC / USDT swap and say goodbye to dreams you fuckin moron. Ask devs about coin burning on this shit DEX release - SOOOONN

>> No.30195549

>>30195106
>Dydyx
Has kyc, and region lock... You can't call that a Dex

>> No.30195930

>>30192103
>opened channels and everything, it's just sitting in an open channel off chain and says I can't swap to BTC
If you want to withdraw the xsn, close your channels....

If you want to swap for btc you will need to open a btc channel rental. The simple swap UI will do this automatically so less technical users can click a button and be done.

>> No.30195975

>>30192436
>such as?

>Tpos
>Cloud / MNaaS
>Xsn explorer
>Working lightning swaps
>Light wallet
>Cold staking on trezor

>> No.30196060

>>30192891
>>30193682
I think you can hold for another 2 months anon, stakenet chads are going to make it.
>>30193945
I was going to take your seriously but i saw
>vaporware
We both know this isn't true. You're the same fudder who says that line everytime....
>30194429
>let someone else control your funds
Kys
>>30195106
Ah yes Dydyx a 'dex'
>just sign up
>no amercians not allowed right now
Not a dex faggot.

>> No.30196138

>>30195106
>In a moment, some new DEX will appear around the corner
Ah sure thing faggot. Let's see some random group magically pull out a working dex with lightning swaps, p2p orderbook and other brand new tech that has never been made before (except by stakenet).